Re: Demon Lie #3 - God Doesn't Answer Prayer
Cary Kittrell
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> "Wide Eyed in Chunder" <kan...@hotmail.com> wrotetyh:
>
> > Lie #3 – God Doesn’t Answer Prayer
>
>
> Name ONE PERSON who is an amputee and has been healed with new limbs.
But soon, maybe, soon... I've put in a request on behalf of a friend
of mine, a request to Andrew B. Chung, asking that disciple Andy pray
in Jesus' name that my friend's leg, amputated below the knee,
be restored to him.
We'll probably be checking hourly, hoping to see signs of new growth.
I mean as soon as Andrew gets back to us on this.
(perhaps he didn't notice my first post)
-- cary
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> convicted neighbor "Mark T" <snailmail@2oclockrock> wrote:
> > kan...@hotmail.com> wrotet:
> >
> > > Lie #3 God Doesn't Answer Prayer
> >
> > Name ONE PERSON who is an amputee and has been healed with new limbs.
The occipital amputee (man blind from birth) sent to the pool of Sent
received a new occiptal cortex.
> But soon, maybe, soon...
Already has happened.
> I've put in a request on behalf of a friend
> of mine, a request to Andrew B. Chung, asking that disciple Andy pray
> in Jesus' name that my friend's leg, amputated below the knee,
> be restored to him.
You are praying to the wrong person.
Try praying to GOD and maybe He will listen to you and just maybe He
will grant your request as He invariably does for Jesus' disciples:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/050990a84f915420?
In the interim, may we who are Christians (either Jew or gentile),
continue to be mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul,
dear Cary:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5c7bedfac3f61358?
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
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Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > convicted neighbor "Mark T" <snailmail@2oclockrock> wrote:
> > > kan...@hotmail.com> wrotet:
> > >
> > > > Lie #3 God Doesn't Answer Prayer
> > >
> > > Name ONE PERSON who is an amputee and has been healed with new limbs.
>
> The occipital amputee (man blind from birth)
Had his visual cortex been surgically removed? If not,
then "occipital amputee" is nothing more than a failed
attempt at lying via obfuscation.
> sent to the pool of Sent
> received a new occiptal cortex.
>
> > But soon, maybe, soon...
>
> Already has happened.
>
> > I've put in a request on behalf of a friend
> > of mine, a request to Andrew B. Chung, asking that disciple Andy pray
> > in Jesus' name that my friend's leg, amputated below the knee,
> > be restored to him.
>
> You are praying to the wrong person.
You are under the (added) delusion that I'm praying to *you*?
I am requesting that you -- who appear to view yourself as
a "disciple" of Jesus (possibly to His horror, but let
that be) -- that you invoke the promise made to His disciples,
and help my poor truncated friend.
So: will you? Yes or no?
Oh, and before we leave this -- why did you snip the group
from which this was originally posted? Are you afraid
for that "Christian superhero", Ken Clifton, to see your
answer?
-- cary
Don Kirkman
article
<1626b01d-9a32-405a...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:
>convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>> convicted neighbor "Mark T" <snailmail@2oclockrock> wrote:
>> > kan...@hotmail.com> wrotet:
>> >
>> > > Lie #3 God Doesn't Answer Prayer
>> >
>> > Name ONE PERSON who is an amputee and has been healed with new limbs.
>
>The occipital amputee (man blind from birth) sent to the pool of Sent
>received a new occiptal cortex.
Diagnosis supplied by responder; original diagnosis in parentheses.
Narrative of reconstructive surgery supplied by responder (original
reporter simply says Jesus applied saliva mud to eyes and sent patient
to wash in nearby pool. Translation of name of pool [Siloam] supplied
by responder as though it were meaningful to the story.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Mark T
>> Name ONE PERSON who is an amputee and has been healed with
>> new limbs.
>
> But soon, maybe, soon... I've put in a request on behalf of a friend
> of mine, a request to Andrew B. Chung, asking that disciple Andy pray
> in Jesus' name that my friend's leg, amputated below the knee,
> be restored to him.
>
> We'll probably be checking hourly, hoping to see signs of new growth.
> I mean as soon as Andrew gets back to us on this.
> (perhaps he didn't notice my first post)
GLORY!
"Peanuts! Popcorn!"
Now we just have to sit back and wait for the results of this experiment
......
--
"All things are probable. Try to believe." - Mark 17:1 (MTV)
"Really! Try to believe even if it's bloody stupid and irrational." - Mark
17:2 (MTV)
"Why? Because I said so, that's why! Don't ask questions. Just
believe." - Mark 17:3 (MTV)
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
>
> Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
Yes, by GOD.
"...this happened so that the work of GOD might be displayed in his
life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
Amen.
Bottom line concerning how GOD is using you to further His kingdom
here on earth:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/44ffdb4be3d071f5?
<><
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Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
> >
> > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
>
> Yes, by GOD.
Oddly enough, the Bible does not mentioning GOD having cut int...oh,
wait, hang on...I should be looking in my Chung Extremely Revised
Version, shouldn't I?
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
> > >
> > > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
> >
> > Yes, by GOD.
> >
> > life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
> >
> > Amen.
>
> wait, hang on...
... your non-christians friends continue to wait for you to muster up
enough courage for the challenge laid out for you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/44ffdb4be3d071f5?
Better hurry before Don Kirkman shows himself to be more courageous
than you.
<><
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Cary Kittrell
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
> > > >
> > > > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
> > >
> > > Yes, by GOD.
> > >
> > > "...this happened so that the work of GOD might be displayed in his
> > > life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
> > >
> > > Amen.
> >
> > Oddly enough, the Bible does not mentioning GOD having cut int...oh,
> > wait, hang on...
>
> ... your non-christians friends continue to wait for you to muster up
> enough courage for the challenge laid out for you:
My foreshortened friend continues to wait -- a bit unsteadily -- for you to get
around to giving him a hand. Or, in this case, a foot:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2b1acec371b36194
(I didn't tell him how miserably you fared on the famed Tinnitus Test;
why crush his hopes prematurely?)
You may put your next inadequate excuse here:
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
> > > > >
> > > > > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, by GOD.
> > > >
> > > > "...this happened so that the work of GOD might be displayed in his
> > > > life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
> > > >
> > > > Amen.
> > >
> > > Oddly enough, the Bible does not mentioning GOD having cut int...oh,
> > > wait, hang on...
> >
> > ... your non-christians friends continue to wait for you to muster up
> > enough courage for the challenge laid out for you:
>
>
> My foreshortened friend continues to wait -- a bit unsteadily -- for you to get
> around to giving him a hand.
Would suggest you pray to GOD instead of me.
Only GOD can restore amputees and/or give courage to cowards like
yourself.
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ABC
Priest
beside her, "Father, may I ask a favor? "
Of course. What may I do for you?"
"Well, I bought an expensive electronic hairdryer that is well Over the
Customs limits and I'm afraid they'll confiscate it. Is there anyway you
could carry it through Customs for me under your robe perhaps?"
"I would love to help you, dear, but I must warn you: I will not lie?
"With your honest face, Father, no one will question you."
When they got to Customs, she let the priest go ahead of her.
The official asked, "Father, do you have anything to declare?"
"From the top of my head down to my waist, I have nothing to declare."
The official thought this answer strange, so asked, "And what do you
Have to
declare from your waist to the floor?"
"I have a marvelous little instrument designed to be used on a woman,
which
is, to date, unused."
Roaring with laughter, the official said, "Go ahead, Father... Next!"
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
so he approached His assistant. Fergus ", I am goin huntin
tomorrow and don't want to close the clinic. I want you to take
care of the clinic and take care of all me patients".
"Yes, sir!" answers Fergus.
The doctor goes hunting and returns the following day and asks:
"So, Fergus, how was your day?"
Fergus told him that he took care of three patients.
"The first one had a headache so I gave him TYLENOL."
"Bravo, Mate, and the second one?" asks the doctor.
The second one had stomach burning and I gave him
MAALOX, sir,"says Fergus.
"Bravo, bravo! You're good at this and what about the
third one?" asks the doctor.
"Sir, I was sitting here and suddenly the door opens
and a woman enters. Like a flame, she undresses
herself, taking off everything including her bra and
Her panties and lies down on the table. She spreads
her legs and shouts:
'HELP ME! For five years I have not seen any man!"
"Thunderin' Lard Jayzus, Fergus, what did ye do?" asks
the doctor.
"I put drops in her eyes " !!
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
While he is waiting his turn to be seen, a casual acquaintance walks in
and sits down next to him.
The newcomer asks "W w what are yyy you ddd doing here?"
The man replies, " I am waiting to see the doctor."
"W wwhy dd do yyy you wwant to sss see hhim?"
The man replies, "Well, if you must know, I have a prostate problem."
"A pp prostate ppp problem, wwhat's ttthat?"
"Well, if you must know. I pee like you talk."
The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
>
> > > > > > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
>
> > > > > Yes, byGOD.
>
> > > > > life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
>
> > > > > Amen.
>
> > > > wait, hang on...
>
> > > ... your non-christians friends continue to wait for you to muster up
> > > enough courage for the challenge laid out for you:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2b1acec371b36194
>
> > My foreshortened friend continues to wait -- a bit unsteadily -- for you to get
> > around to giving him a hand.
>
> Would suggest you pray toGODinstead of me.
He never stated that he was praying to you. He asked YOU to pray to
God for his friend's limb to be restored.
Will you do so?
Or will you avoid praying for his friend's limb to be restored because
you are afraid it will not happen even after God hears the prayers of
a good Christian such as yourself, thus casting doubts as to either
His existence or His willingness to answer prayers?
Cary Kittrell
Well, well, well...what do you know: Andrew doesn't believe it would work either...
I...I am SO disillusioned!
Incidentally, before you flee yet again, perhaps you will finally reply
to my question: why do you continue to snip the group from
which this thread ultimately originated?
I do begin to wonder if Ken Clifton also frightens you.
-- cary
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6299aeb3c80b5d2b?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, by GOD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "...this happened so that the work of GOD might be displayed in his
> > > > > > life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Amen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oddly enough, the Bible does not mentioning GOD having cut int...oh,
> > > > > wait, hang on...
> > > >
> > > > ... your non-christians friends continue to wait for you to muster up
> > > > enough courage for the challenge laid out for you:
> > >
> > >
> > > My foreshortened friend continues to wait -- a bit unsteadily -- for you to get
> > > around to giving him a hand.
> >
> > Would suggest you pray to GOD instead of me.
> >
>
> Well, well, well...
... your non-christian friends continue to wait anxiously hoping you
would come through for atheism:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3473dc0d15d056f7?
Jesus is LORD !
Laus Deo :-)
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Virgil
>
> GOD is keeping all non-christians including you from saying "Jesus is
> LORD."
There is no god who can prevent anybody from saying it,
I have said it myself several times just today to test Chung's claim.
Thus I have found his claim trivially false.
On the other hand, it does not need a god to keep me from believing it.
Mark K. Bilbo
> would come through for atheism:
No, Spanky. People are still just pointing and laughing at you...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mark K. Bilbo
>
> <><
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/1a812afc784ae683?
http://i.aint.gonna.click/that
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Mark K. Bilbo
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Anon
Anon
Anon
and
says, "I hate to ruin your day, but I have to tell you that your Mother
and
I are divorcing; forty-five years of misery is enough."
"Gees Dad, what are you talking about?" the son screams.
"We can't stand the sight of each other any longer," the father says,
"we're
sick of each other, and I'm sick of talking about this, so you call your
sister in Darwin and tell her."
Frantic, the son calls his sister, who explodes on the phone. "No way
they're getting divorced!" she shouts, "I'll take care of this."
She calls Brisbane immediately and screams at her father, "You are not
getting divorced. Don't do a single thing until I get there. I'm calling
my
brother back, and we'll both be there by tomorrow. Until then, don't do
a
thing. DO YOU HEAR ME?" and hangs up.
The old man hangs up his phone and turns to his wife. "Okay," he says,
"they're coming for Christmas and paying their own way."
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> A man in Brisbane...
Bottom line concerning your life while you are unable to publicly say
"Jesus is LORD:"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06086e917755db02?
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f43db72a7c5c1da0?
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
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Cary Kittrell
> On Sep 19, 8:02=A0pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
> wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > > > convicted neighbor Cary Kittrell wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> aeb3c80b5d2b?
> >
> > > > > > > Had his visual cortex been surgically removed?
> >
> > > > > > Yes, byGOD.
> >
> > > > > > "...this happened so that the work ofGODmight be displayed in his
> > > > > > life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 9:3)
> >
> > > > > > Amen.
> >
> > > > > Oddly enough, the Bible does not mentioningGODhaving cut int...oh,
> > > > > wait, hang on...
> >
> > > > ... your non-christians friends continue to wait for you to muster up
> > > > enough courage for the challenge laid out for you:
> >
> b36194
> >
> > > My foreshortened friend continues to wait -- a bit unsteadily -- for yo=
> u to get
> > > around to giving him a hand.
> >
> > Would suggest you pray toGODinstead of me.
>
> He never stated that he was praying to you. He asked YOU to pray to
> God for his friend's limb to be restored.
>
> Will you do so?
>
> Or will you avoid praying for his friend's limb to be restored because
> you are afraid it will not happen even after God hears the prayers of
> a good Christian such as yourself, thus casting doubts as to either
> His existence or His willingness to answer prayers?
I suspect that if you were to replace "afraid" with "certain",
you'd have the situation perfectly analyzed.
-- cary
Cary Kittrell
No, they wait anxiously for you to list their names, as you
have been repeatedly instructed to do.
Perhaps I forgot to provide enough space? If that's the problem,
you may use the back of this post.
Now, hop to it:
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> No, they wait anxiously for you to list their names, as you
> have been repeatedly instructed to do.
Listing their names is not going to help you publicly declare "Jesus
is LORD."
Neither will your stalling.
Bottom line concerning your difficulties:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/773bdee360f7775e?
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Cary Kittrell
In other words: you cannot.
Just imagine my surprise...
-- cary
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
... no one is surprised that you have been unable to publicly say
"Jesus is LORD."
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Virgil
<b0dc17a5-a9ea-4f4c...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >
> > No, they wait anxiously for you to list their names, as you
> > have been repeatedly instructed to do.
>
> Listing their names is not going to help you publicly declare "Jesus
> is LORD."
The only thing wanting to get almost anyone to say publicly what ABC
falsely claims we cannot say publicly is any monetary incentive.
How much is ABC willing to bet that no atheist nor agnostic can make the
public declaration that ABC claims is impossible?
Put your money where you claim your faith is, Chung, or be revealed for
the chicken heart you really are.
Virgil
<b0dc17a5-a9ea-4f4c...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> >
> > No, they wait anxiously for you to list their names, as you
> > have been repeatedly instructed to do.
>
> Listing their names is not going to help you publicly declare "Jesus
> is LORD."
The only thing wanting to get almost anyone to say publicly what ABC
Virgil
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Re: Non-christians simply cannot publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
There is a difference between not being able to and choosing not to,
which idiot Chung seems unaware of.
How much is Chung willing to bet on his claim?
If he makes it worthwhile, he will have lots of proof of his error.
But it may cost him.
Truth
Chunks, you yourself are unable or unwilling to publicly say that
"Jesus is LORD." I asked you to post a YouTube clip of you doing so
and you refused. Until you yourself say it publicly on YouTube no one
else will do the same. So, step up and post the YouTube clip or shut
up already.
Don Kirkman
<Virgil-3150E7....@comcast.dca.giganews.com>:
Maybe he could take part of that two mil he's got in escrow against
somebody failing the 2PD Pound Diet test, since he's never had a
failure since 1648 BC with over 550,000 people on the diet. Might as
well put a mil or so to some good use like bribing folks to declare
that Jesus is lord. Probably be good for the US economy, too--you
know, a million here, a million there might help us all as it trickles
down.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> > No, they wait anxiously for you to list their names, as you
> >> > have been repeatedly instructed to do.
>
> >> Listing their names is not going to help you publicly declare "Jesus
> >> is LORD."
>
> >The only thing wanting to get almost anyone to say publicly what ABC
> >falsely claims we cannot say publicly is any monetary incentive.
>
> >How much is ABC willing to bet that no atheist nor agnostic can make the
> >public declaration that ABC claims is impossible?
>
> >Put your money where you claim your faith is, Chung, or be revealed for
> >the chicken heart you really are.
>
> Maybe he could take part of that two mil he's got in escrow against
> somebody failing the 2PD Pound Diet test, since he's never had a
> failure since 1648 BC with over 550,000 people on the diet. Might as
> well put a mil or so to some good use like bribing folks to declare
> that Jesus is lord. Probably be good for the US economy, too--you
> know, a million here, a million there might help us all as it trickles
> down.
Bottom line concerning your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is
LORD:"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9dffa38136fac380
Don Kirkman
article
<dcc4e3df-57d8-4ea5...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
Sorry, your bottom line is rejected for insufficient .
Re your subject "No amount of money will help non-christians publicly
say "Jesus is LORD," you can't seriously or honestly make such a
claim without testing it. If you want, you can drop me off your list
but please distribute part of that two million escrowed dollars to the
deserving souls whom you want to give you what your heart so obviously
desires. Too bad there's no way to know if that's also what God
desires.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> convicted neighbor Virgil wrote:
> >> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >> >> > No, they wait anxiously for you to list their names, as you
> >> >> > have been repeatedly instructed to do.
>
> >> >> Listing their names is not going to help you publicly declare "Jesus
> >> >> is LORD."
>
> >> >The only thing wanting to get almost anyone to say publicly what ABC
> >> >falsely claims we cannot say publicly is any monetary incentive.
>
> >> >How much is ABC willing to bet that no atheist nor agnostic can make the
> >> >public declaration that ABC claims is impossible?
>
> >> >Put your money where you claim your faith is, Chung, or be revealed for
> >> >the chicken heart you really are.
>
> >> Maybe he could take part of that two mil he's got in escrow against
> >> somebody failing the 2PD Pound Diet test, since he's never had a
> >> failure since 1648 BC with over 550,000 people on the diet. Might as
> >> well put a mil or so to some good use like bribing folks to declare
> >> that Jesus is lord. Probably be good for the US economy, too--you
> >> know, a million here, a million there might help us all as it trickles
> >> down.
>
> > Bottom line concerning your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is
> > LORD:"
> >
>
> Sorry, your bottom line is rejected for insufficient .
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06086e917755db02?
> Re your subject "No amount of money will help non-christians publicly
> say "Jesus is LORD," you can't seriously or honestly make such a
> claim without testing it.
It is not my claim but rather what is written in the Bible:
"...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)
Amen.
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
Guardian Snow
wrote:
> > Re your subject "No amount of money will help non-christians publicly
> > say "Jesus is LORD," you can't seriously or honestly make such a
> > claim without testing it.
>
> It is not my claim but rather what is written in the Bible:
>
> "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> Corinthians 12:3)
Jesus is LORD
What say you Andrew?
Jas 4:1 Where do fightings and strivings come from among you? Do they
not come from your pleasures that battle in your members?
Jas 4:2 You desire, and do not have. You murder, and are jealous, and
are unable to obtain. You strive and fight, and you do not possess,
because you do not ask.
Jas 4:3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask evilly, in order
to spend it on your pleasures.
Jas 4:4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship
with the world is enmity with Elohim?1 Whoever therefore intends to be
a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of Elohim. Footnote: 1Mt.
13:22, Lk. 4:5-6, Lk. 14:33, Rom. 12:2, 1 John 2:15-17.
Jas 4:5 Or do you think that the Scripture speaks to no purpose? Does
the Spirit which dwells in us intensely crave unto envy?
Jas 4:6 But He gives greater favour. Because of this He says, “Elohim
resists the proud, but gives favour to the humble.”
Jas 4:7 So then subject yourselves to Elohim. Resist the devil1 and he
shall flee from you. Footnote: 1Or adversary.
Jas 4:8 Draw near to Elohim and He shall draw near to you. Cleanse
hands, sinners. And cleanse the hearts, you double-minded!
Jas 4:9 Lament and mourn and weep! Let your laughter be turned to
mourning and your joy to dejection.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Master, and He shall
lift you up.
Jas 4:11 Brothers, do not speak against one another. He that speaks
against a brother and judges his brother, speaks against Torah and
judges Torah. And if you judge Torah, you are not a doer of Torah but
a judge.
Jas 4:12 There is one Lawgiver and Judge, who is able to save and to
destroy. Who are you to judge another?
Jas 4:13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow, let us go to such
and such a city, spend a year there, and trade, and make a profit,”
Jas 4:14 when you do not know of tomorrow. For what is your life? For
it is a vapour that appears for a little, and then disappears –
Jas 4:15 instead of your saying, “If the Master desires, we shall live
and do this or that.”
Jas 4:16 But now you boast in your proud speeches. All such boasting
is wicked.
Jas 4:17 To him, then, who knows to do good and does not do it, to him
it is sin.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> >
> > It is not my claim but rather what is written in the Bible:
> >
> > "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> > Corinthians 12:3)
Amen
> Jesus is LORD
>
> What say you Andrew?
Nothing can be said in this text-based medium.
Instead, here is a written rebuke for you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?
<><
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
Guardian Snow
wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
> > Jesus is LORD
>
> > What say you Andrew?
>
> Nothing can be said in this text-based medium.
>
> Instead, here is a written rebuke for you:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/31c3b88286afc5bd?
Thank you Andrew. For those of you who don't bother checking his
links, it says:
"May you suffer infinitely more times than all the suffering combined
you have caused with your lies especially to those who have overeaten
to the point of affliction because of your delusion that hunger is
bad...
... and just when you think your suffering is absolutely unbearable,
may GOD amplify it by infinity and extend the duration to eternity as
HE casts you into that lake of fire being prepared for you and your
children, satan.
In the gloriously awesome and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I rebuke
you yet again before an ever-growing cloud of cheering witnesses both
here and in heaven. "
Now I tell you thank because I have NO FEAR of your rants and laugh at
your demonstration of evil. You should think of something far scarier
for me my friend because thats just a sad little empty excuse of a
curse.
You really should work on a better one. I like to show you from time
to time what a fraud you are Andrew. That your quick to ignore
scriptures and listen to whatever sad thing that drives.
Be blessed with wisdom from above..
Shalom,
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Don Kirkman
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>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > Bottom line concerning your being unable to publicly say "Jesus is
>> > LORD:"
>> Sorry, your bottom line is rejected for insufficient .
>Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes):
Gee, I thought you'd finally retired that one. It's among the lamest
rejoinders in your arsenal.
>> Re your subject "No amount of money will help non-christians publicly
>> say "Jesus is LORD," you can't seriously or honestly make such a
>> claim without testing it.
>It is not my claim but rather what is written in the Bible:
>"...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
>Corinthians 12:3)
May be written in the Bible, but it has nothing to do with what you
think it does:
But of course you've turned it on its head [surprise, surprise!],
again because your knowledge of the Bible is abysmal. Paul is
instructing a congregation concerned whether newcomers to their group
are truly Christian, since some of them were "speaking in tongues" in
meetings. Paul tells the group that if such a person curses Jesus it
is obvious: "Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking
by the Spirit of God ever says 'Jesus be cursed!' and no one can say
'Jesus is Lord' except by the Holy Spirit."
IOW, the issue is within the Christian group, and has nothing to do
with outsiders or forcing people into belief. And so too, obviously,
it has nothing to do with *public* declarations of faith. Give it up.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Virgil
<84ddfe1d-f948-4146...@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
> Sterling citizen Don Kirkman wrote:
> > Re your subject "No amount of money will help non-christians publicly
> > say "Jesus is LORD," you can't seriously or honestly make such a
> > claim without testing it.
>
> It is not my claim but rather what is written in the Bible:
>
> "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> Corinthians 12:3)
So that Chung, supposedly an MD and PhD, accepts without any
independently verifiable evidence, that what he finds in a book of
dubious provenance is true.
What a PUTZ!
E.P. Uum
<53c37f5a-73c2-47cb...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, via a sockpuppet, in a Holely Sock, boldly wrote:
> It is not my claim
Yes it is, but a false one.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldy wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> > > Re your subject "No amount of money will help non-christians publicly
> > > say "Jesus is LORD," you can't seriously or honestly make such a
> > > claim without testing it.
> >
> > It is not my claim but rather what is written in the Bible:
> >
> > "...no one can say, 'Jesus is LORD,' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
> > Corinthians 12:3)
Amen.
> So that Chung, supposedly an MD and PhD, accepts without any
> independently verifiable evidence, that what he finds in a book of
> dubious provenance is true.
All can independently verify that 1 Corinthians 12:3 is true by
attempting to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" on their own.
Truth is simple :-)
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BDK
59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, lov...@thetruth.com says...
Not as simple as you are. Simply, stupidly, insane.
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