"It was live," Christopher Bona said in an email.
The contaminated product, which Baxter calls "experimental virus
material," was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes
its flu vaccine -- including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence
is expected shortly -- at a facility in the Czech Republic.
People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that
human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau
facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to
happen, a number of experts insisted.
Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could
have resulted in dire consequences.
While H5N1 doesn't easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone
exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with
both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid
virus able to transmit easily to and among people.
That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic
viruses are created."
Source:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090227/Bird_Flu_090227
"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Amen.
A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any
time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?"
(WDJW):
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Jesus is LORD, forever !!!
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?
> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement:
> >
> May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
> 2449th year since the birth of our LORD Buddha to guide us from the wheel.
<
> It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Buddha
> want?" (WDBW):
>
> Yes, hunger for knowledge of good versus evil so Buddha
> can lead us to enlightenment.
Budda is a created god of stone and can lead no one to anything.
Actually, Buddha was not a god but a false teacher, who neither held
himself to be god nor is worshipped as such. Instead, he falsely
taught people to worship nothingness.
May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Jesus is LORD. forever ! ! !
http://JiL4ever.net
>"On Friday, the company's director of global bioscience communications
>confirmed what scientists have suspected.
. . .
>While H5N1 doesn't easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone
>exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with
>both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid
>virus able to transmit easily to and among people.
>That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic
>viruses are created."
Isn't it true that many genetic processes involve reassortment, not
only those that may be harmful? Ordinary human conception, for
instance.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
No.
Reassortment of the segmented genomes of Flu viruses is a genetic
event/process that is unique to the virus and occurs within a doubly
infected cell as hybrid virus particles are formed.
Most other RNA viruses do not even have segmented genomes to allow
reassortment.
>Ordinary human conception, for instance.
Human conception is an event that involves the combining of two sets
of chromosomes and not reassortment. Genetically heterogenous sperm
and ova arise from meiosis and not reassortment.
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! !
http://JiL4ever.net
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>"On Friday, the company's director of global bioscience communications
>>>confirmed what scientists have suspected.
>>>While H5N1 doesn't easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone
>>>exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with
>>>both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid
>>>virus able to transmit easily to and among people.
>>>That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic
>>>viruses are created."
>>Isn't it true that many genetic processes involve reassortment, not
>>only those that may be harmful?
>No.
>Reassortment of the segmented genomes of Flu viruses is a genetic
>event/process that is unique to the virus and occurs within a doubly
>infected cell as hybrid virus particles are formed.
I didn't ask about viruses, I asked whether it isn't true that many
genetic processes involve reassortment, not only harmful ones. You
ignored the question.
>Most other RNA viruses do not even have segmented genomes to allow
>reassortment.
>>Ordinary human conception, for instance.
>Human conception is an event that involves the combining of two sets
>of chromosomes and not reassortment. Genetically heterogenous sperm
>and ova arise from meiosis and not reassortment.
"recombination
In genetics, any process that recombines, or 'shuffles', the genetic
material, thus increasing genetic variation in the offspring. The two
main processes of recombination both occur during meiosis (reduction
division of cells). One is crossing over, in which chromosome pairs
exchange segments; the other is the random reassortment of chromosomes
that occurs when each gamete (sperm or egg) receives only one of each
chromosome pair.
"This article is c Research Machines plc 2009. All rights reserved.
Helicon Publishing is a division of Research Machines plc."
http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/recombination
[Begin]
recombination /re?Ecom?Ebi?Ena?Etion/ (re??kom-b?-na?Lshun)
1. the reunion, in the same or different arrangement, of formerly
united elements that have been separated.
2. in genetics, the process that creates new combinations of genes by
shuffling the linear order of the DNA.
Dorland's Medical Dictionary for Health Consumers. c 2007 by Saunders,
an imprint of Elsevier, Inc. All rights reserved.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
re-com-bi-na-tion
n.
The natural formation in offspring of genetic combinations not present
in parents by the processes of crossing over or independent
assortment.
The American HeritageR Medical Dictionary Copyright c 2007, 2004 by
Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All
rights reserved.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
recombination
Etymology: L, re + combinare
1 the formation of new arrangements of genes within the chromosomes as
a result of independent assortment of unlinked genes, crossing over of
linked genes, or intracistronic crossing over of nucleotides. See also
recombinant DNA.
2 the coupling of oppositely charged ions liberated by ionizing
radiation. Ionic recombination lowers the total number of charges
collected by a dosimeter, thus causing the radiation dose to be
underestimated. A technique for determining the magnitude of ionic
recombination is routinely applied in accurate dosimetry.
Mosby's Medical Dictionary, 8th edition. c 2009, Elsevier.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
recombination
the reunion, in the same or different arrangement, of formerly united
elements that have been separated; in genetics, the formation of new
gene combinations due to crossing over by homologous chromosomes.
Recombination occurs between viruses such as influenza or bluetongue
which have segmented genomes. Called also reassortment.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
recombination frequency
the frequency of exchange between two genes on the same chromosome.
Saunders Comprehensive Veterinary Dictionary, 3 ed. c 2007 Elsevier,
Inc. All rights reserved
[end]
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/recombination
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
**emphasis** added.
> >Reassortment of the segmented genomes of Flu viruses is a genetic
> >event/process that is unique to the virus and occurs within a doubly
> >infected cell as hybrid virus particles are formed.
>
> I didn't ask about viruses, I asked whether it isn't true that many
> genetic processes involve reassortment, not only harmful ones. You
> ignored the question.
See **emphasis** above.
Reassortment is not recombination.
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
> May GOD soften your heart, Don,
Soft heart muscle can lead to an an aneurysm in the wall which is bad.
Hardly good advice from a doctor or someone representing himself on God's
side.
This written prayer request is for GOD to soften the heart of Don's
soul and not the heart of his body.
Even if we were writing about the heart of Don's body, it is actually
injured heart muscle (from infarction, cardiac sarcoidosis, or Chaga's
disease) that leads to aneurysmal changes.
Moreover, soft/compliant heart muscle is clinically better than
hard/stiff/non-compliant heart muscle because the latter would lead to
heart failure from diastolic dysfunction.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly provide the evidence that He is the Source of all
the medical knowledge so that without GOD, there is only medical
ignorance.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Rebukesatan
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
> This written prayer request is for GOD to soften the heart of Don's
> soul and not the heart of his body.
The soul is separate from the body - the soul is a spiritual, not corporeal
and therefore has no heart. Since you are a stickler for words such as
"says" cannot be used in a text based medium, then it follows that the soul
has no heart. You need reword this bumper sticker slogan.
The soul and the body are connected at their hearts.
True love resides in the heart of the soul and not in the heart of the
body.
It is when a soul blasphemes against the Holy Spirit that the heart of
the soul dies so that all that remains is an evil spirit.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
<><
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
>> The soul is separate from the body - the soul is a spiritual, not corporeal
>> and therefore has no heart.
>
> The soul and the body are connected at their hearts.
>
> True love resides in the heart of the soul and not in the heart of the
> body.
For someone who is a stickler for the use of words, the soul, not being
corporeal, does not have a heart so you will need to rephrase how you say it
or agree that words, like "heart" and "says" can be legitimately used in
different ways. You should at least follow what you expect of others.
>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>> May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
>>Soft heart muscle can lead to an an aneurysm in the wall which is bad.
>This written prayer request is for GOD to soften the heart of Don's
>soul and not the heart of his body.
"Heart of his soul" is another string of words signifying nothing;
since the soul, if one exists, is not a physical entity it cannot have
a heart, which is physical. A large part of your problem is this
slippery way of using words to mean only what you want them to mean,
with no regard for the commonly accepted meanings.
>Even if we were writing about the heart of Don's body, it is actually
>injured heart muscle (from infarction, cardiac sarcoidosis, or Chaga's
>disease) that leads to aneurysmal changes.
I suppose the Holy Spirit helped you discern my physical situation.
None of the cardiologists I've had over the years knew that I had
these conditions, yet you know it from a continent away with no more
knowledge of me than what you read here and what you have obviously
tracked down from stalking me. Maybe I should ask my current doctor
to schedule a consult with you.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Not for those who understand that true love resides in the heart of
the soul and not in either the heart or mind of the body.
May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear Don:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDon
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
>
> Not for those who understand that true love resides in the heart of
> the soul and not in either the heart or mind of the body.
If you can write that the spiritual soul has a heart as does the corporeal
body, then can write "the Bible SAYS...." and use "says" to mean written.
Your ignoring of this is very revealing that you do not have an answer.
<><
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Can you please tell us exactly what a "Soul" is???
M,
Can write it as follows:
"the immaterial essence, animating principle, or actuating cause of an
individual life"
Source:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soul
May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Wrong!
God breathed into man and he became a living "soul".
So body plus breat equals "Soul".
M,
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> God breathed into man and he became a living "soul".
GOD is Spirit.
GOD breathing spirit into matter thereby giving life to it results in
the creation of a soul.
> So body plus breat equals "Soul".
Matter that comes to life by GOD has a soul created by GOD.
A soul is simply a spirit connected to matter.
Truth is simple.
May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
> Wrong!
> God breathed into man and he became a living "soul".
So does human life begin with the first breath and not at conception?
Yes.
Dear Nancy,
Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Dear Andrew,
Of course I can publicly say "Jesus is LORD." He sits at the
right hand of the Father. He purchased mankind with his death
and has been rewarded with immortality.
With kind regards,
Nancy
Total nonsense.
Dear Nancy,
Can you publicly say "Chung is Insane"
R O T F LLLLLL!!!
I can, I can!!!
"Chung is insane"
Do I need the acs? Okay...
"CHUNG IS INSANE"
All caps is like really making it aloud in the internet.
OK, how many can publicly say (or write) CHUNG IS INSANE
Here goes ..... CHUNG IS INSANE .... feels good, I am now have this inner
peace.
>
> Just WHO is insane ?
>
>
No, Who, the first basemen, is not just the only one insane.
Actually - with first breath.
Human life begins at BIRTH - one has no independant life in the womb.
But,until the time when you fetus can viably live on its own in the
world without the need for the womb - a fetus is nothing more than a
potential human being.
Dear Nancy,
Then please allow me to hear the miracle of your publicly saying
"Jesus is LORD" by calling me at the number listed at the bottom of:
"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
Sad to understand that you still can't publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
May GOD soften your heart, Vera, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
> ear Nancy,
>
> Then please allow me to hear the miracle of your publicly saying
> "Jesus is LORD" by calling me at the number listed at the bottom of:
Now, Chung is a telephone-evangelist and he is the one to talk to make it
count - wonder if that is Jesus's voice mail too.
Nancy - call the cardiology department at Emory and let them hear you say:
CHUNG IS INSANE - bet you get a lot of amens to that.
Incorrect.
The above is a web site and hearing the miracle of folks publicly
saying "Jesus is LORD" is not evangelism.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
<><
"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Sorry - but your actions prove you wrong.
No. I don't know Chung.
Nancy
Dear Andrew,
Though I can publicly proclaim that "Jesus is LORD" I don't really need
T3WIJ to remind me. When my thoughts are not occupied with work, etc.,
like a compass needle returning to north, my thoughts turn to Jesus and
God's plan of redemption. Good luck with your web site though.
With kind regards,
Nancy WWJJD **
** What Would Judge Judy Do?
T3WIJ does not serve as a reminder because it stands for "trust the
truth, Who is Jesus."
> When my thoughts are not occupied with work, etc.,
> like a compass needle returning to north, my thoughts turn to Jesus and
> God's plan of redemption. Good luck with your web site though.
There is no such thing as luck (Proverbs 16:33)
> With kind regards,
> Nancy WWJJD **
>
> ** What Would Judge Judy Do?
WDJW**
** What does Jesus want?
May GOD soften your heart, Nancy, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
>> > Not for those who understand that true love resides in the heart of
>> > the soul and not in either the heart or mind of the body.
>>
>> Can you please tell us exactly what a "Soul" is???
>
> Can write it as follows:
>
> "the immaterial essence, animating principle, or actuating cause of an
> individual life"
>
> Source:
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soul
>
> May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
> the truth, Who is Jesus:
How do you know or not know if I trust My Lord or not.
You do not even fit in our equasion of Trusth.
M,
You are asking for a judgement call.
The Lord Knew us even before the foundation of the world was set.
M,
LOL
Amen and I like that a lot.
I can say it too.
Chung is Insane and needs to get a real life.
"CHUNG DUNG IS INSANE"!
One man plants the seed while another waters it, But only God gives
the increase.
>
>
The Holy Spirit knows because He has looked into your heart.
If you did trust the truth, Who is Jesus, the Holy Spirit would be
helping you so that you would be able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul.
Judge Judy would have to deal with the situation on the basis of LAW.
THat eliminates the use of HERESAY evidence - and it also eliminates
the use of information for which a source cannot be provided for
questioning.
Your hate is insane.
Misty, that was not the right "Chung is Insane". You added to it, and
you used caps. You do not know the real Chung. I will expose you for
your Chungesy until you can publicly say "Chung is Insane". In addition,
it is not enough to write it, you must SAY it with your mouth, and it is
important that you SAY the capital letters of two of the words with your
mouth as well! If you cannot do that, you will be lost forever, and we
will spread that all over usenet.
We are waiting for your movie on YouTube and on CNN. I hope someone will
make a press release... Hurry, hurry!!!
What makes them insane is their delusion (false belief) that they can
diagnosis insanity (delusion of grandeur) and their delusion that GOD
does not have the power to keep them from publicly saying "Jesus is
LORD."
May GOD soften Vera's heart and Mistylein's heart so that they would
come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Dear liaM,
Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
Not for the discerning.
May GOD soften Vera's heart, Mistylein's heart, and your heart, Fred,
so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
The Truth is you are trying to be some one you are not qualified to be
You are setting yourself up to be in the place of my Lord Jesus
and I have not asked you to be taking His place.
In fact you show your self to be a Fake!
M,
>
> http://T3WIJ.com
>
> Amen.
>
> Marana tha
>
> Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
>
> Andrew <><
> --
> "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
> 12:3)
And where does it say we have to confess anything to you??
M, again.
>>
>> "CHUNG DUNG IS INSANE"!
>
> Misty, that was not the right "Chung is Insane". You added to it, and you
> used caps. You do not know the real Chung. I will expose you for your
> Chungesy until you can publicly say "Chung is Insane". In addition, it is
> not enough to write it, you must SAY it with your mouth, and it is
> important that you SAY the capital letters of two of the words with your
> mouth as well! If you cannot do that, you will be lost forever, and we
> will spread that all over usenet.
OH No not the whole net now I am lost for ever and ever.
and now not only is Chung a paper Jesus but are you too???
O woe is me.
Now I am getting out the rope and knife and poison bottle and the pinyard.
I is all over for me now.
Good by crule world; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; , , ,, , , ,, , . .. . . .. .. . ..
... poof ish ness.
Incorrect.
The truth is simply Jesus.
"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)
Amen.
> You are setting yourself up to be in the place of my Lord Jesus
The name is Andrew, which is different from Jesus.
The ethnic background is Chinese, which is different from Jewish.
Bottom line:
Your false witness is forgiven by me.
This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
you.
May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
the truth, Who is Jesus:
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
Sorry - but your lord christ is not a truth - it is a belief.
Sure ;)
> In fact you show your self to be a Fake!
So Chung is a fakir too
> OH No not the whole net now I am lost for ever and ever.
>
> and now not only is Chung a paper Jesus but are you too???
>
> O woe is me.
>
> Now I am getting out the rope and knife and poison bottle and the pinyard.
>
> I is all over for me now.
>
> Good by crule world; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; , , ,, , , ,, , . .. . . .. .. . ..
> ... poof ish ness.
Some need to repent, what Chung does is to repeat, so in the Biblical sense,
is Chung a re-Peter?
> Bottom line:
>
> Your false witness is forgiven by me.
And say 10 CHUNG IS INSANEs
But you must do that on YouTube, so Andrew can also see and hear you
saying it. Otherwise you will not go to Heaven ever. Yeah, really! In
addition, he will give you hell on earth also, and spread his insanities
about you all over usenet.
--
___________________________________________________
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
WHERE JESUS CHRIST IS LORD
http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com
http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
> But you must do that on YouTube, so Andrew can also see and hear you
> saying it. Otherwise you will not go to Heaven ever. Yeah, really! In
> addition, he will give you hell on earth also, and spread his insanities
> about you all over usenet.
Like this:
My hearing you say "Jesus is LORD" would not surprise me.
Thus, I would not be surprised to see you in heaven someday.
Sky is great, Andrew !
Heaven is infinitely greater, liaM :-)
Ha, ha - that is the right video for teens in their puberty. Sorry, I
did not watch it to the end, because I am not in that age anymore. But
Frankly, Chung's video with his chanting is not really better.
Christians should not take the Lord's name in vain.
>>
>>"Heart of his soul" is another string of words signifying nothing;
>
> Not for those who understand that true love resides in the heart of
> the soul and not in either the heart or mind of the body.
Exactly what is your fefinition of a "SOUL"?
M,
>
> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to be
> mindful of WDJW by praying for your perishing soul, dear Don:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForDon
>
> Amen.
>>
>>> This written prayer request is for GOD to soften the heart of Don's
>>> soul and not the heart of his body.
<snip>.
> Christians should not take the Lord's name in vain.
1 - His name is not christ.
2 - his name was never jesus either.
so they didn't
> Christians should not take the Lord's name in vain.
And should not be vain themselves
Yes, yes, yes.
> O woe is me.
Yeah!
> Now I am getting out the rope and knife and poison bottle and the
> pinyard.
To throw it all at Chung?
> I is all over for me now.
It's all over nooooowwww, Baby Blue....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06SoECIp1U
Do you remember the song of Tom Dooley?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoBLGE2cCdU
I was a child when I heard that song first and found it sooooooooo sad.
Ummm... I found this one, too... the Beach Boys have changed a little...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCwY9kdgDg&feature=related
No, I have found them there...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KY_d9MQv8&feature=related
But I cannot say which version is better. What a dilemma!
I WANNA GO HOME!!! BUT I CAN'T!!! WHY?
Um... I am there already...
> Good by crule world; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; , , ,, , , ,, , . .. . . ..
> .. . .. ... poof ish ness.
Harr, harr, harr...
People cannot be vain. They are all precious, but not all of them show
it. As long as they live on earth there is hope for (almost) everybody.
Yes, this world is evil, you are right. And there is much more evil than
just in your examples. I do not see this hope you are talking of in this
world. It is always the same, and the only improvement can come from
outside. I for one try to live up to God's standards, but there is no
day gone where I could manage that. Sad but true. Now please, tell me
how you manage to live up to your high standards? What is it that does
not make you "vain"?
That is right, they have always been as bad as today. Nothing has
changed, there has not been an improvement at all. They just have more
technique.
You wrote that people can be vain, I said they cannot, or they would all
be vain, because no matter how much they try, they will never be
perfect, and they will do the silliest things. The Bible is very
realistic on that, too. What is it that makes people precious in your
eyes, and not vain?
Your confusing peoples actions with actual vanity. All people I feel have some
level of vanity small amounts are certainly not bad. People should take pride in
their appearance for example. Although some actions of people may be seen as
being vain such as high profile people calling the news papers before doing some
kind of charity event, many more are not and want to be anonymous in their
charitable actions. Being vain at any level has nothing to do with being perfect.
And as for "perfect" what do you mean by the word "perfect"?
> and they will do the silliest things. The Bible is very
> realistic on that, too.
Really? Want to elaborate?
>What is it that makes people precious in your
> eyes, and not vain?
>
>
Why would a person that is more "vain" than another be any less "precious"? Life
is precious period.
Sorry, that was a misunderstanding. I wrote, "Christians should not take
the Lord's name in vain" and meant "vain" in this sense, while you used
the word "vain" to speak about people's pride.
> And as for "perfect" what do you mean by the word "perfect"?
To be good only and in any aspect, without any mistakes.
>> and they will do the silliest things. The Bible is very
>> realistic on that, too.
>
> Really? Want to elaborate?
It struck me when reading Ecclesiastes in the Bible where Solomon, the
wisest man on earth (right after Jesus) spoke about this world.
>> What is it that makes people precious in your
>> eyes, and not vain?
>>
>>
> Why would a person that is more "vain" than another be any less
> "precious"? Life is precious period.
I see what you mean now. Sure, life is precious.
>> And as for "perfect" what do you mean by the word "perfect"?
>
> To be good only and in any aspect, without any mistakes.
>
Still ambiguous.
>>> and they will do the silliest things. The Bible is very
>>> realistic on that, too.
>> Really? Want to elaborate?
>
> It struck me when reading Ecclesiastes in the Bible where Solomon, the
> wisest man on earth (right after Jesus) spoke about this world.
>
That is only an opinion. To a person who is Zoroastrian would not requinize
Solomon as being all that wise. If you had ever read any of the Zoroastrian
texts you would know that most everything Solomon "spoke" of has already been
penned in the Counsels of Adarbad Mahraspandan.
No, sorry I did not write "And should not be vain themselves", this was
J666, and I will repeat it:
In news:0001HW.C5D98FC9...@news.supernews.com,
J666 <j6...@nowhere.com> typed:
> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:52:05 -0500, Jesus is LORD ::: wrote
> (in article <71ilv9F...@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> Christians should not take the Lord's name in vain.
>
> And should not be vain themselves
J666 wrote it, and then youreplied "How so".
> In which I replied "How so"
> Your next reply made no mention for "taking the lords name in vain".
> If you meant to keep it in the subject you should have included it in
> your replies. In fact it appears that you made an attempt change the
> subject to "moral" standards of living.
Whatever... not my fault, and I even said sorry for this
misunderstanding. Why do you want to make a big deal of that? Actually
YOU misread MY words.
>>> And as for "perfect" what do you mean by the word "perfect"?
>>
>> To be good only and in any aspect, without any mistakes.
>>
> Still ambiguous.
I am not perfect, and things do not have to be explained in one
sentence only.
>>>> and they will do the silliest things. The Bible is very
>>>> realistic on that, too.
>>> Really? Want to elaborate?
>>
>> It struck me when reading Ecclesiastes in the Bible where Solomon,
>> the wisest man on earth (right after Jesus) spoke about this world.
>>
> That is only an opinion.
Just read it yourself if you do not believe me.
> To a person who is Zoroastrian would not
> requinize Solomon as being all that wise. If you had ever read any of
> the Zoroastrian texts you would know that most everything Solomon
> "spoke" of has already been penned in the Counsels of Adarbad
> Mahraspandan.
If you say so... Ecclesiastes ended with Solomon's recommendation to
keep God's Commandments... So is this book also about that?
>>>> What is it that makes people precious in your
>>>> eyes, and not vain?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why would a person that is more "vain" than another be any less
>>> "precious"? Life is precious period.
>>
>> I see what you mean now. Sure, life is precious.
--
The above written discourse serves well to illustrate the meandering
meaninglessness of the lives of those guided by the spirit of error
(self) instead of the Holy Spirit.
May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Fred, so that you would
come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Not making a big deal as you imply................But words are words.
>>>> And as for "perfect" what do you mean by the word "perfect"?
>>> To be good only and in any aspect, without any mistakes.
>>>
>> Still ambiguous.
>
> I am not perfect, and things do not have to be explained in one
> sentence only.
>
Thats not answering the question. What do you mean by "perfect"? Please do not
be ambiguous, you do not need to use a lot of words, just use some meaning.
>
>>>>> and they will do the silliest things. The Bible is very
>>>>> realistic on that, too.
>>>> Really? Want to elaborate?
>>> It struck me when reading Ecclesiastes in the Bible where Solomon,
>>> the wisest man on earth (right after Jesus) spoke about this world.
>>>
>> That is only an opinion.
>
> Just read it yourself if you do not believe me.
>
I have read most of the religious texts that are out there, the Hebrew/Christian
bible included.
>> To a person who is Zoroastrian would not
>> requinize Solomon as being all that wise. If you had ever read any of
>> the Zoroastrian texts you would know that most everything Solomon
>> "spoke" of has already been penned in the Counsels of Adarbad
>> Mahraspandan.
>
> If you say so... Ecclesiastes ended with Solomon's recommendation to
> keep God's Commandments... So is this book also about that?
>
What religious text is not about keeping the laws or commands of that religions
god or gods?
Well he also may be A Pauling as well.
>
They are the tools the Jesuits could use to take back the territory lost
to the Protestants during the time of Martin Luther..
They were not under any Ecclesiastital law nor ecclesiastical authority
so they could go out and murder as much as they wanted to under the
Order of the popes from about 1630 on.
That was called the inquission of the Jesuits.
I thiink it is still going on to some degree today.
Most of that stopped in 1798 when the pope got arrested by
Napolian Bonapart and after that time the pope was subject to kings
when before the pope claimed to be the one to set up Kings and depose
kings. It was also called the Deadly Wound that was told about
in Rev 13. but the wound was healed.
If you are interested in that kind of stuff I got more.
>
>> It is all over for me now.
>
> It's all over nooooowwww, Baby Blue....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06SoECIp1U
>
> Do you remember the song of Tom Dooley?
Yes and I am hanging my head "Down"
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoBLGE2cCdU
>
> I was a child when I heard that song first and found it sooooooooo sad.
>
> Ummm... I found this one, too... the Beach Boys have changed a little...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCwY9kdgDg&feature=related
>
> No, I have found them there...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KY_d9MQv8&feature=related
>
> But I cannot say which version is better. What a dilemma!
>
> I WANNA GO HOME!!! BUT I CAN'T!!! WHY?
>
> Um... I am there already...
>
>> Good by crule world; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; , , ,, , , ,, , . .. . . ..
>> .. . .. ... poof ish ness.
>
> Harr, harr, harr...
Guess what now I too am resurreted from that grave along with my
Lord Jesus Christ. and I now am a part of the Royal Priesthood
talked about in Rev 1:6.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> > http://T3WiJ.com
>>
>> The Truth is you are trying to be some one you are not qualified to be
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The truth is simply Jesus.
>
> "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
> 14:6)
Yes Jesus is but you And drew are NOT!
>
> Amen.
>
>> You are setting yourself up to be in the place of my Lord Jesus
>
> The name is Andrew, which is different from Jesus.
But you are trying to be a paper jesus by what you claim.
You are a Re Peter and A Paul ing , And Drew.
>
> The ethnic background is Chinese, which is different from Jewish.
That does not give you any authority to take the place of The Lord now
does it??
>
> Bottom line:
>
> Your false witness is forgiven by me.
The Other Bottom Line Is I Did Not Ask For Any Forgiveness By You
Now Did I ?
>
> This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
> you.
Who died and gave you the authority to be the Judge of what the
Holy Spirit does or does not doo.
>
> May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
> the truth, Who is Jesus:
May God give you the insight to know just who you really are.
M,
Hamberger helper Thaw.
>>>>>
>>>> That statement is delusional.
>>> Not for the discerning.
>>>
>>> May GOD soften Vera's heart, Mistylein's heart, and your heart, Fred,
>>> so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
>>
>> The Truth is you are trying to be some one you are not qualified to be
>> You are setting yourself up to be in the place of my Lord Jesus
>> and I have not asked you to be taking His place.
>>
>
> Sorry - but your lord christ is not a truth - it is a belief.
Not so "Sorry" but My Lord is the Way, The Truth, and The Life.
In Him is no lie!
M,
And And Drew is also trying to take the place of the Lord
so he is also and Anti-christ. hmm.
He drew? No, actually he sucked.
>> The ethnic background is Chinese, which is different from Jewish.
>
> That does not give you any authority to take the place of The Lord now
> does it??
I wonder about that, too.
>> Bottom line:
>>
>> Your false witness is forgiven by me.
>
> The Other Bottom Line Is I Did Not Ask For Any Forgiveness By You
> Now Did I ?
>
>>
>> This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
>> you.
>
> Who died and gave you the authority to be the Judge of what the
> Holy Spirit does or does not doo.
>
>>
>> May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
>> the truth, Who is Jesus:
>
> May God give you the insight to know just who you really are.
We should pray for that...
> M,
>
> Hamberger helper Thaw.
Veralein
>>>
>>> The name is Andrew, which is different from Jesus.
>>
>> But you are trying to be a paper jesus by what you claim.
>>
>> You are a Re Peter and A Paul ing , And Drew.
>
> He drew? No, actually he sucked.
No not drew but more like Android.
I have to agree he does seem to suck like if you pull your foot
out of the mud.
>
>>> The ethnic background is Chinese, which is different from Jewish.
>>
>> That does not give you any authority to take the place of The Lord now
>> does it??
>
> I wonder about that, too.
>
>>> Bottom line:
>>>
>>> Your false witness is forgiven by me.
>>
>> The Other Bottom Line Is I Did Not Ask For Any Forgiveness By You
>> Now Did I ?
>>
>>>
>>> This simply shows that the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict
>>> you.
>>
>> Who died and gave you the authority to be the Judge of what the
>> Holy Spirit does or does not doo.
>>
>>>
>>> May GOD soften your heart, Mistylein, so that you would come to trust
>>> the truth, Who is Jesus:
>>
>> May God give you the insight to know just who you really are.
>
> We should pray for that...
Bible says we are not to be conserned with those that sins lead
to death.
M,
Amen.
> Yes Jesus is but you And drew are NOT!
Did not write that I were Jesus.
May GOD soften Fred's heart, Vera's heart, and your heart, Mistylein,
so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
We will know when GOD does this when we witness your publicly saying
"Jesus is LORD."
>> >
>> > "I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
>> > 14:6)
>
> Amen.
>
>> Yes Jesus is but you And drew are NOT!
>
> Did not write that I were Jesus.
Your assumtions show you think you are as you keep asking us to
say some phrase that we do not even need to confess to you in any
way shape or form.
We do not even recognise you as any one that we need to confess to.
M,
>
> May GOD soften Fred's heart, Vera's heart, and your heart, Mistylein,
> so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
>
> http://T3WiJ.com
>
> Amen.
>
> We will know when GOD does this when we witness your publicly saying
> "Jesus is LORD."
Like I said before you are not the one to even being asking us to do that
so you can claim you have some kind of control over us.
In as much as you keep trying to setp outside the peramiters of the
Bible to make some sort of predictions of events that you claim will
happen in the future that The Lord has not given to you you will
remain a "FALSE PROPHET" and are not even to be recognized as
a fellow Christian at this time until you repent and come into like with
Bible prophecy and not your own prophesies, in this Bible prophecy
News Group.
Hamburger helper thaw.
M,
No amount of obfuscation is going to help you publicly say "Jesus is
LORD."
May GOD soften Fred's heart, Veralein's heart, and your heart,
Mistylein, so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
We will know when GOD does this when we witness your publicly saying
"Jesus is LORD."
Marana tha
>> Some need to repent, what Chung does is to repeat, so in the Biblical
>> sense,
>> is Chung a re-Peter?
>
> Well he also may be A Pauling as well.
>
And Chung wants to play "Chungs says" rather than "Simon says" - or to his
limited mind, "Simon writes."
Gibberish.