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habshi

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Feb 1, 2008, 6:15:09 PM2/1/08
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This is an amazing amount , enough to supply uk all its
electricity via wind mills , and that is just the cost in UK!!

bbc.co.uk

The cost of decommissioning ageing nuclear power sites has risen
"rapidly" in the past few years by £12bn to £73bn ($146b) , according
to an official report.
The National Audit Office (NAO) said costs were rising, even for the
most imminent work. It said the industry faced "significant
challenges".

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Planning given for £200m ($400m)wind farm
Published: 31 January 2008 15:04 Author: Myles Burke More by this
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GreenPower has won its Section 36 consent application to build the
third biggest onshore wind farm in the UK at Griffin Forest in
Perthshire.
Griffin Wind Farm with 68 wind turbines, each with a capacity of up to
3MW will have a maximum peak output of 204MW. Plans were originally
submitted to the Scottish Government in 2004.


ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com

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Feb 1, 2008, 6:45:04 PM2/1/08
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In sci.physics habshi <hab...@anony.com> wrote:
> This is an amazing amount , enough to supply uk all its
> electricity via wind mills , and that is just the cost in UK!!

Perhaps the UK should adopt the US system of pre-paying for all that.

> Griffin Wind Farm with 68 wind turbines, each with a capacity of up to
> 3MW will have a maximum peak output of 204MW. Plans were originally
> submitted to the Scottish Government in 2004.

And if it works like all the rest will produce maybe 60MW.


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Jim Pennino

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Uncle Al

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Feb 1, 2008, 7:03:53 PM2/1/08
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habshi wrote:
[snip]

> The cost of decommissioning ageing nuclear power sites has risen
> "rapidly" in the past few years by £12bn to £73bn ($146b) , according
> to an official report.

[snip]

Grind it up, dump it into the headwaters of the Ganges, then watch how
many wogs are cut down by radiation-sterilized clean water. Stick it
in free food and charitably feed Bangladeshis (arsenic didn't even
slow them down). Add it to menstrual pads and send them to Africa,

http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/revents.htm

Leave the padlock off the back gate and have Pakis steal it.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

nada

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Feb 1, 2008, 7:33:51 PM2/1/08
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Habashi, disregard the racist pig "Uncle Al". We'll try to get him
expunged from Usenet.

So...what is your point? That the UK chose a terrible design for their
nuclear energy infrastructure and FORGOT to finance cleanup? What do
you propose...NOT cleaning it up? Is there a point to posting this
here?

David

ihsbah

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Feb 1, 2008, 8:34:44 PM2/1/08
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http://www.uic.com.au/nip84.htm

UK power from nuclear is in the TW range for measurement. How many
thousand 200 MW wind farms do you want to build? That is assuming you can
keep them at peak output when you want power.

hanson

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Feb 2, 2008, 12:59:03 AM2/2/08
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"habshit" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
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[snipped by rect-Al]

The cost of decommissioning ageing nuclear power sites has
risen "rapidly" in the past few years by £12bn to £73bn ($146b) ,
according to an official report.
[snipped by rect-Al]
>
Uncle rect-Al Schwartz, the Jew, wrote:
news:47A3B369...@hate.spam.net...

Grind it up, dump it into the headwaters of the Ganges, then watch
how many wogs are cut down by radiation-sterilized clean water.
Stick it in free food and charitably feed Bangladeshis (arsenic
didn't even slow them down). Add it to menstrual pads and send
them to Africa, < http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/revents.htm >
Leave the padlock off the back gate and have Pakis steal it.
-- Uncle Al
[More and much better stuff from rect-Al]
<http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/215c7c54e5468d61>
wherein he said amongst other gems:
::Al:: "Uncle Al especially enjoys earthquakes that collapse
::Al:: churches filled with worshippers."
and where another one of his ilk, Ersatz rabbi Kolker urges:
::BK:: "to put all Xians into asylums for their belief in Christianity".
>
"nada" <dwalt...@gmail.com> wrote to habshit:
news:6e563fc9-074e-4543...@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Habashi, disregard the racist pig "Uncle Al".
We'll try to get him expunged from Usenet.
David
>
hanson wrote:
AHAHAHA... David, have you lost your fucking mind?!!!...
Jews like rect-Al are highly entertaining when they crank
themselves... ahahaha... and they crank themselves so
loud & easily... ahahaha... It's a pure joy to dance with'em....
You just don't get it. Look here:
>
rect-Al and Kolker are but a few Jews who are *honestly*
expressing what and how Jews do really think & view you,
you the goyim, the non-Jew, being their servant & cattle...
Be grateful to the Al's that they show you the innards of their
soul.
>
Or are you so stupid that you have bought into & swallowed
their incessant TV propaganda over their supposed cultured
Jewish kindness, benevolence & their superior intelligence....
ahahahaha... Don't be such a mooch, David!....
>
The facts of life are that Jews are and have been the errand
boys for the Ice-rim people for the last 2000 years, hired to do
our dirty work... and they always are greedy enough to do it...
Read in the above link what the great Israeli patriot , ex-PM
Ariel Sharon, had to say about it. -- Sharon has seen the light
& got the tune right...
What I can't understand why so many Jews, especially those
Israel-1st loyalty US kikes, do work so very, very hard to turn
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.astro/msg/c627f9c3e5520f76 >
Hitler's Last Curse into becoming a self-filling prophesy which
Hitler broadcast just before his demise in 45, in which he said:
**"in a 100 years from now the world will be grateful for what I,
Hitler, have started".** .... .... 63 down, only 37 to go...
>
Till then..., thanks for the laughs, guys... ahahaha... ahahanson

.

Dan Bloomquist

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Feb 2, 2008, 1:22:03 AM2/2/08
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hanson wrote:
> "habshit" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
Sorry hanson, it is hashbrians.

What I don't understand is that all this noise on usenet, yet very few
will crunch the numbers that really have to do with our condition.

For instance:
http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/3576#more

Why is this so beyond usenet?

http://lakeweb.blogspot.com/

Now, why is that page suddenly missing? You tell me. I put it up and now
it is gone.

The brain dead rule......

What do you choose???

Dan Bloomquist

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Feb 2, 2008, 1:48:35 AM2/2/08
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Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> http://lakeweb.blogspot.com/
>
> Now, why is that page suddenly missing?...

Gee, are you getting this?

"Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)"

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Feb 2, 2008, 8:58:54 AM2/2/08
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habshi wrote:
> This is an amazing amount , enough to supply uk all its
> electricity via wind mills , and that is just the cost in UK!!
>
> bbc.co.uk
>
> The cost of decommissioning ageing nuclear power sites has risen
> "rapidly" in the past few years by £12bn to £73bn ($146b) , according
> to an official report.
They do not have to be decommissioned. They can be reconditioned,
modernized and reused.
>


--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8

Vince Morgan

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Feb 2, 2008, 9:51:58 AM2/2/08
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"Dan Bloomquist" <publ...@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
news:f_Toj.3308$7d1...@news01.roc.ny...

> hanson wrote:
> > "habshit" <hab...@anony.com> wrote in message
> Sorry hanson, it is hashbrians.
>
> What I don't understand is that all this noise on usenet, yet very few
> will crunch the numbers that really have to do with our condition.
>
Because if you actually do that it's very scary. And when you see the chaos
here, it's even scarier! It's like suddenly discovering that you are in
freefall, 20000ft above ground, and aren't quite sure if there is a handle
to that thing on your back that may actually only contain a clean change of
clothes.
Vince


hanson

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Feb 2, 2008, 10:54:19 AM2/2/08
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"Dan Bloomquist" <publ...@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
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>
hanson wrote:
"nada" <dwalters...@gmail.com> wrote to habshit:

Habashi, disregard the racist pig "Uncle Al".
We'll try to get him expunged from Usenet.... see link here:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/e11eebf4427cbc01 >
>
"habshit" <hab...@anony.com> wrote... yada, yada, yada
>
Dan Bloomquist wrote

Sorry hanson, it is hashbrians.
What I don't understand is that all this noise on usenet, yet very few
will crunch the numbers that really have to do with our condition.
For instance: < http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/3576#more >
Why is this so beyond usenet?
>
hanson wrote:
It may be beyond general interest because it says in the link
"Study of Peak Oil - Understanding the energy crisis in South Africa "
ahahaha... There are not too many posters from SA in theses NGs.
>
But AFAIAC the oil game is a fascinating grand game indeed.
"Peak oil" is a con game, a big one.... just like "Global warming"...
These hysteria inducing slogans are used by Special Interests
to scare the peasantry into opening and empting their wallets...
And it's done cleverly by playing on & using their **emotions/fears"
Here is my take on it
The Peak Oil Game as orchestrated by the oil boys:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.environment/msg/2084d8f1e6393226 >
The Jewish Oil Grab attempts, long in coming:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/914ecc0cdfcaa353 >
How the Green Tyranny destroyed nuke energy development:
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.space.policy/msg/300a43bcbf8937a1>
>
Dan Bloomquist wrote

http://lakeweb.blogspot.com/
Now, why is that page suddenly missing? You tell me.
I put it up and now it is gone.
The brain dead rule...... What do you choose???
>
hanson wrote:
... Me chose what?... What should I tell you?... How should I
know why you page is gone?... Thanks for your trust in me.
>
I don't know what you are driving at, Dan. I posted because
David Walter's brought up the Jewish problem... ahahaha...
< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy/msg/e11eebf4427cbc01 >
which is always a great topic for laughs..... ahahahaha....
>
Your comment of wondering about ... "all this noise on usenet"...
is no wonder at all. THIS is the usenet... a 24/7/365 crazy fun party....
It reminds me of the atmosphere of the discussions which were
held at Floyd's barbershop of Mayberry in the old Andy Griffith
TV show... All very earthshaking events!... ahahahaha....
Some fanatics, especially the Green Turds, do think that their
posts will have a decisive influence on national and international
policy making... and they are a special treat for laughs, just like
the jerUSAlem cockroaches... Enjoy the fun, Dan, ahahahaha
ahahaha... ahahahanson


Eeyore

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Feb 2, 2008, 12:30:24 PM2/2/08
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nada wrote:

> Habashi, disregard the racist pig "Uncle Al". We'll try to get him
> expunged from Usenet.
>
> So...what is your point? That the UK chose a terrible design for their
> nuclear energy infrastructure and FORGOT to finance cleanup?

And the Magnox design was at least in part due to a requirement to make
plutonium for nuclear bombs. That's not a requirement for a *commercial*
reactor.

Graham

festu...@googlemail.com

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Feb 2, 2008, 3:37:11 PM2/2/08
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On 2 Feb, 00:03, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> habshi wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > The cost of decommissioning ageing nuclear power sites has risen
> > "rapidly" in the past few years by £12bn to £73bn ($146b) , according
> > to an official report.
>
> [snip]
>
> Grind it up, dump it into the headwaters of the Ganges, then watch how
> many wogs are cut down by radiation-sterilized clean water.  Stick it
> in free food and charitably feed Bangladeshis (arsenic didn't even
> slow them down).  Add it to menstrual pads and send them to Africa,
>
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/revents.htm
>
> Leave the padlock off the back gate and have Pakis steal it.
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

>  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

Uncle Al, is there anybody in the world you don't hate or have not
insulted yet.
Please could you provide me with a list, let me start it for you.

1) Uncle Al
2) Uncle AI
3) Uncle Al, and (D)evil, and Nazi's.

You really do love yourself, God Bless you and hope you will end up in
heaven. HAHAHAHAHA

Please don't [snip] me, becuase I will do it myself.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot. I have a limited
volcabulary.
[snip]

Idiot

[snip] Here is another one.[snip] Idiot [snip]

[snip] Idiot [snip]

nada

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Feb 2, 2008, 11:10:57 PM2/2/08
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On Feb 2, 5:58 am, "Blattus Slafaly £ ¥ 0/00 :)"

never heard of 'reconditioning'....no papers on it that I've been able
to find.

The expense of cleanup is because of the terrible design the Brits
chose to use for building their nukes, on top of not writing in the
decommissioning costs. The NEW plants cost 1/100th of the current
price tag to do the same thing and are cheaper to build. Let's hope
they replace the current crop of nukes with these new designs.

D

zzbu...@netscape.net

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Feb 3, 2008, 1:28:27 AM2/3/08
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> keep them at peak output when you want power.- Hide quoted text -

It doesn't matter at all. Since the problem with nuke idiots
is that they can't understand anything other than GW and TW.
Which is largely why people with positve forms of intelligence
build robots, computers, solar arrays, turbines, sattelites,
lasers, and unleaded gas for the idiots.

>
> - Show quoted text -

nada

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Feb 3, 2008, 10:13:31 AM2/3/08
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On Feb 2, 10:28 pm, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
wrote:
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

And Greenies don't know squat about science or engineering. Thus, when
the Greenies actually have power, as in Germany, they phase out low
CO2 emitting nuclear plants and BUILD FUCKING COAL PLANTS! Talk about
DUMB.

David

BradGuth

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Feb 4, 2008, 2:26:12 PM2/4/08
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Obviously UK folks are snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no
return.

Perhaps they deserve one another more than we're giving them credit.

What's another $149b here or there?
. - Brad Guth

nada

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Feb 4, 2008, 3:03:11 PM2/4/08
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> . - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

But it's not another "$149b"...it's about 1/100th of that. THAT is the
point. No one is proposing to repeat the experience of British
Nuclear. No one.

David

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