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Ball tampering and cheating was rampant in England county cricket - Michael Holding

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Yorker

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Dec 21, 2007, 1:51:37 PM12/21/07
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Michael Holding on ball tampering:

""You can ask any fast bowler. If he says he has never tampered with the
ball, he either has just started playing, or is lying. Ball-tampering has
been going on for donkey's years, and started long before I was born. It is
only now, because of television, that people are becoming more and more
aware of it. When I played in England, ball-tampering was rampant in county
cricket. I saw many bowlers tamper with the ball, like picking the seam, or
applying foreign stuff. "

David Lloyd on ball tampering:


"Former England coach David Lloyd, in his column in the Daily Telegraph,
highlighted several ball-tampering incidents in the past to which he was
privy.
"Brian Statham, the great Lancashire and England bowler, was a master at
lifting the seam, but with the ball in just one hand. Now that is class.

"Peter Lee, who joined Lancashire from Northamptonshire in the mid-1970s and
twice took 100 wickets in a season was 'caught at it' by an umpire, strongly
rumoured to have been the doyen of seam-picking in his day.

"After inspecting the ball, he said to Lee: 'I would have been proud of that
myself. If you do not get seven wickets with it I'll have to report you.'

"On one occasion at Old Trafford, when I was captain of Lancashire, the ball
was not swinging at all. I happened to have about my person a tube of lip
ice and I smeared a touch on the ball. Unfortunately, I did not have time to
rub it in.

"The ball eventually found its way back to our fast bowler Ken Shuttleworth
at the end of his run-up. I was about 50 metres away from Ken as he
bellowed: 'I can't grip this ball. There's some stuff on it.'

"I started to give the umpire the usual excuses of the ball having been
trodden on when he got in first.

'Before you start you can forget about the ball having chapped lips,' he
said."


Sir Richard Hadlee on ball tampering:

""But there have been subtle ways over the years of mucking about with the
ball that allows it to do things like reverse swing after 40 or 50 overs and
takes the batsman by surprise. "

kethe...@gmail.com

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Dec 21, 2007, 8:03:22 PM12/21/07
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but, we call it cheating when pakistan players do it.

it's a wonderful world

Ian Thorpe

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Dec 22, 2007, 1:35:48 AM12/22/07
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<kethe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Googling for Pakistan cheats oval got so many hits.

Samples

Phil
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/b8ce5d5df56aa504

dechuka
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/4757029cb916a750

Luke Curtis
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/815504149749dce5

Ian Thorpe

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Dec 22, 2007, 1:57:48 AM12/22/07
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<kethe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Rodney Hampson
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/4dd0fdfa3ea457a6

Robert Henderson

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Dec 23, 2007, 3:44:25 PM12/23/07
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In message <fkh1vo$iqn$1...@aioe.org>, Yorker <Yor...@Yorker.com> writes

>
>Michael Holding on ball tampering:
>
>""You can ask any fast bowler. If he says he has never tampered with
>the ball, he either has just started playing, or is lying.
>Ball-tampering has been going on for donkey's years, and started long
>before I was born. It is only now, because of television, that people
>are becoming more and more aware of it. When I played in England,
>ball-tampering was rampant in county cricket. I saw many bowlers tamper
>with the ball, like picking the seam, or applying foreign stuff. "

One thing which used to be done with a ball was leave mud on one side to
alter the bounce. That was a regular trick in Victorian times. Frank
Edwards, a slow left armer of great renown in Minor County cricket
before and after the Great War was notorious for using bottle tops to
score a ball. RH
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Rodney Ulyate

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Dec 26, 2007, 10:13:20 AM12/26/07
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RH mused:

> In message <fkh1vo$iqn$1...@aioe.org>, Yorker <Yor...@Yorker.com> writes
>> Michael Holding on ball tampering:
>> ""You can ask any fast bowler. If he says he has never tampered with
>> the ball, he either has just started playing, or is lying.
>> Ball-tampering has been going on for donkey's years, and started long
>> before I was born. It is only now, because of television, that people
>> are becoming more and more aware of it. When I played in England,
>> ball-tampering was rampant in county cricket. I saw many bowlers
>> tamper with the ball, like picking the seam, or applying foreign stuff. "
> One thing which used to be done with a ball was leave mud on one side to
> alter the bounce. That was a regular trick in Victorian times.

Victoria and Edward's subjects, reserved and temperate as they were, did
not much bother with the rabid ball-burnishing of our contemporaries.
It was in fact common practice, back when crinolines were hip and
heterosexual men strolled about with arms shamelessly entwined, to
scrape the new cherry against the turf in order to better its grip.

Fred Spofforth was in all likelihood the first man to take to concerted
maintenance of the lacquer (which follows, as Fred Spofforth was in all
likelihood the first man to take to swing bowling). He abhorred the
aforementioned custom and played a major role in its abolishment, but
spinners as recent as Goonesena were staunch advocates.

> Frank Edwards, a slow left armer of great renown in Minor County
> cricket before and after the Great War was notorious for using bottle
> tops to score a ball. RH

Seam-lifting and resin-dusting, meanwhile, were as much in vogue in the
inter-war period as prosa d'arte. Once, at the S.C.G., a suspicious
Johnny Douglas requested that Australia's biggest-ever-turning leggie
Arthur Mailey show him his right hand.

Having scoured it with all the diligence of a vacuum cleaner, Douglas
lifted his gaze and, in the manner of an uppity school prefect, informed
his foe of his fate: "Arthur, you've been using resin. I'll report you
to the umpire."

Before he could do so, however, a desperate Mailey called for him to
reveal *his* right hand, the thumbnail of which was worn to the quick.
"And *you've* been lifting the seam, Johnny," he announced. Douglas
grinned and agreed to take the matter no further.

The following morning's paper reported that "Douglas and Mailey appear
to be good friends again. They were shaking hands out in the middle
yesterday."

--
Rodney Ulyate

"You can never plan the future by the past."
Edmund Burke

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PleaseYorkMe

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Dec 26, 2007, 1:23:38 PM12/26/07
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You love 'tampering' your balls and yorking your arsehole dont you bitch?

Husband of All FBI n NSA agents

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Dec 26, 2007, 1:29:23 PM12/26/07
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"PleaseYorkMe" <iyork...@night.com> wrote in message
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> You love 'tampering' your balls and yorking your arsehole dont you bitch?

Ofcourse I do FBI n NSA PSYCHOPATH.


I KNOW and YOU KNOW I wont be able to TRACE
your comments back to the REAL YOU even if I can
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PSYCHOPATHS.

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COMPLETE IMPOTENTS that too PUBLICLY.


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SAND NIGGERS, Mexicans as MEXCREMENT and USA
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PSYCHOPATHS and RACISTS LOVE HITLER and NAZIS
and HATE ISRAEL and JEWS ?


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.privacy/msg/238657d378a212ff?hl=en&

Your husband and
Husband of all FBI n NSA agents

To all the readers here,

I already told you these FBI n NSA PSYCHOPATHS HATE
JEWS, BLACKS, BROWNS and HISPANICS and now you
have the PROOF.

These FBI n NSA PSYCHOPATHS and RACISTS BLAMED
FLOURIDATION POISONING on JEWS TOO.....
Just read the subject title in this link.......

Flouridation a JEW SCHEME ?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism/msg/879cd0abaee2f263

But dont get too excited thinking that these EVIL FBI n NSA
PSYCHOPATHS wont TORTURE WHITE CHRISTIANS.

Some of the TORTURE VICTIMS are HIGHLY EDUCATED
WHITE CHRISTIANS namely Dr Robert Dunford, Mr Derrick
Robinson and Ms Susan Sayler for example. All of these WHITE
CHRISTIAN TORTURE VICTIMS live in USA.

I also know some WHITE CHRISTIAN TORTURE VICTIMS in
ENGLAND and other parts of EUROPE. Will post their names
LATER.....


You, your wife and kids will be SECRETLY EMBEDDED with
nanotechnology based SYNTHETIC TELEPATHY CHIPS and
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even if YOU CONTINUALLY SUCK these FBI and NSA
PSYCHOPATHS DICKS like Rodney Ulyate, MacJoubert, John Winthrop,
Diggler, arahim etc.

Its ONLY a MATTER OF TIME before EVERY HUMAN BEING will
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by FBI and NSA COMPUTERS which can READ and DECIPHER
in about 15 - 30 seconds.

FORGET FREEDOM OF SPEECH.......No body will have
FREEDOM OF "THOUGHT" any more just like I didnt for the
last 6 years.

MI-5, MI-6 are ALSO INVOLVED in these MIND CONTROL,
MIND MANIPULATION TORTURES and PSYCHO-ELECTRONIC
WEAPON ATTACKS for DECADES in England.

PLANET EARTH has ONLY ONE CHOICE.

TO SUPPORT ME to FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS, CIVIL LIBERTIES
and FREEDOMS of NOT ONLY EVERY AMERICAN but also EVERY
HUMAN BEING ON THIS PLANET.

I am the LAST HOPE of HUMANITY TO LIVE with ANY DIGNITY and
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All the resident RACISTS alvey, will_s, Andrew Dunford, Phil, Paul Robson,
max.it, Mike Holmans, dechuka, Wog George, Rodney Hampson, Erchie will
SUPPORT ME if they have ANY INKLING of whats gonna happen to
them, their family, their children and grand children and EVERY HUMAN
in the NEAR FUTURE.

YES, ALL HUMAN BEINGS will be CONTROLLED and MONITORED by
FBI n NSA COMPUTERS.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/cov_us.html

YOU fucking MORONS HAVE NO IDEA how much ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY
these FBI and NSA PSYCHOPATHS have DEVELOPED SECRETLY for DECADES
and have been TORTURING INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS.

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SPARED by these FBI, NSA, MI-5, MI-6 PSYCHOPATHS and SADISTS if YOU
SUCK THEIR DICKS PUBLICLY and PRETEND to LIKE and WORSHIP THEM.

Why do you LOW IQ MORONS think John Winthrop commented a completely
irrelevant word "cough" in this comment today, ?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.cricket/msg/19a182f2677b2d57

Because I coughed last night at home.for a few seconds and thought about the
reasons why I was coughing.

The word "cough" was a SECRET MESSAGE to me by these BLOOD THIRSTY
EVIL FBI n NSA PSYCHOPATHS and RACISTS.

In case if you still didnt get it, that was the ONLY COMMENT
from "John Winthrop" who NEVER posted on rsc before.


It is a COMMON PRACTICE for these FBI n NSA PSYCHOPATHS to
POST PRIVATE THOUGHTS of TORTURE VICTIMS on internet newsgroups
in the form of " words in comments" or "subject title" or "posters name" or
"their email id" This was REPORTED by MANY OTHER TORTURE VICTIMS
in AMERICA that INCLUDE WHITE CHRISTIANS who are VERY
INTELLIGENT with ADVANCED degrees like Masters and PHD in Physics,
Chemistry, Psychology, Electrical Engineering, Computers, Sociology, Math
and some of the victims are even DOCTORS.

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