Non-XM-ready Eton E1 to be available from Universal @ $399.95 retail price

junius

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Oct 31, 2007, 4:56:07 PM10/31/07

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http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html

Exact same radio, but without the XM module. Renopithicus take note!

http://www.passband.com/2007/10

Presumably to be available from Universal from week of Nov. 5 - 9th.

RHF

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Oct 31, 2007, 9:37:37 PM10/31/07

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On Oct 31, 1:56 pm, junius <junjun...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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- http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html
-
- Exact same radio, but without the XM module. Renopithicus take
note!
-
- http://www.passband.com/2007/10
-
- Presumably to be available from Universal from week of Nov. 5 - 9th.

Junius,

More likely this would be properly described as the
Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio -sans- {without}
circuitry for the 'Optional' XM Satellite Receiver Module
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html

Please Note - That I have the Eton E1XM Radio with the
'Optional' XM Satellite Receiver Module : Which I never
use and while the Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio is
a GREAT 'portable' Radio -imho- XM Satellite Radio does
not make-it or break-it -and- 'sans' {without} XM Satellite
Radio the Eton E1 Radio at a new lower Price Point is
now clearly Exportable and 'Sellable' Around the World.

The Eton E1 AM/FM Shortwave Radio - Something Good
Just Got Better - - - At A New Lower Price. :o) ~ RHF
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html

this is 'rhf' and that's the way i hear it ~ RHF
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Unrevealed Source

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Oct 31, 2007, 10:18:37 PM10/31/07

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I've heard complaints that this doesn't have a good AM antenna built in.
What's the real story with that? Are people saying that the AM reception is
poor with the whip?

"junius" <junj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193864167.7...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

Roadie

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Nov 1, 2007, 12:14:40 PM11/1/07

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On Oct 31, 10:18 pm, "Unrevealed Source"
<unrevealed_sou...@nospam.com> wrote:

> I've heard complaints that this doesn't have a good AM antenna built in.

I would be truly amazed if a Eton sold a radio with AM coverage and no
AM antennna - wouldn't you? It's got a built in antenna for AM.

> What's the real story with that?

The real story is that it uses the whip antenna rather than a wound
ferrite for AM reception.

>Are people saying that the AM reception is
> poor with the whip?

I haven't heard any people say that. Have you?

>
> "junius" <junjun...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> news:1193864167.7...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html
>
> > Exact same radio, but without the XM module. Renopithicus take note!
>
> >http://www.passband.com/2007/10
>

> > Presumably to be available from Universal from week of Nov. 5 - 9th.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Unrevealed Source

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Nov 1, 2007, 7:29:15 PM11/1/07

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>
>>Are people saying that the AM reception is
>> poor with the whip?
>
> I haven't heard any people say that. Have you?
>

Yes.

craigm

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Nov 1, 2007, 8:02:08 PM11/1/07

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Roadie wrote:

> On Oct 31, 10:18 pm, "Unrevealed Source"
> <unrevealed_sou...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I've heard complaints that this doesn't have a good AM antenna built in.
>
> I would be truly amazed if a Eton sold a radio with AM coverage and no
> AM antennna - wouldn't you? It's got a built in antenna for AM.
>
>
>> What's the real story with that?
>
> The real story is that it uses the whip antenna rather than a wound
> ferrite for AM reception.
>
>>Are people saying that the AM reception is
>> poor with the whip?
>
> I haven't heard any people say that. Have you?
>

The whip antenna is not a good antenna for AM. It picks up a lot of noise,
is not very directional and not very sensitive. Signals easily picked up
with other radios are buried in the noise on the E1.

A Sony 7600g is much better on AM.

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RHF

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Nov 1, 2007, 8:45:37 PM11/1/07

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On Nov 1, 9:14 am, Roadie <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
- On Oct 31, 10:18 pm, "Unrevealed Source"
-
- <unrevealed_sou...@nospam.com> wrote:
-
- - I've heard complaints that this doesn't have a good AM antenna
built in.
-
- I would be truly amazed if a Eton sold a radio with AM coverage
- and no AM antennna - wouldn't you?
- It's got a built in antenna for AM.

The Eton "E1" AM / FM Shortwave Receiver
? Missing AM/MW Antenna ? - - - Not !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95ce2c8e2c733395

-
- - What's the real story with that?
-
- The real story is that it uses the whip antenna
- rather than a wound ferrite for AM reception.
-
- - Are people saying that the AM reception is poor with the whip?
-
- I haven't heard any people say that. Have you?
-
-

Roadie,

Let's see . . . My 1995 Jeep GCL's AM/FM Radio only uses a
Whip Antenna -HEY- Wait a minute just about every Car and
Truck on the Road uses 'only' a Whip Antenna -and- They all
generally get better AM & FM Radio reception then most Home
Radios with an AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antenna.

FWIW - The Grundig Satellit 800-M only has a 4" AM/MW
Ferrite Rod Antenna.
- - - The Ferrite Rod Antenna is the better Bi-Directional Antenna.

Oops - You only get this 'optimum' Signal Peaking and Nulling
result when you "Rotate" the Radio with the Ferrite Rod Antenna
built into it for the best signal.

The Eton E1 Radio has a 40" Whip Antenna plus a "DX" Switch
{RF Pre-Amp} which gives a 10~15 dB Signal Boost.
- - - The Whip Antenna is the better Omni-Directional AM/MW Antenna.

NEWS - The Eton E1 Radio can 'handle' an External 35~105 Feet
long "Random Wire" Antenna and provide excellent AM/MW Radio
reception without overloading.

. . .
.
. .
.
. . . O u t !

Roadie

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Nov 2, 2007, 6:50:06 PM11/2/07

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On Nov 1, 8:45 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 9:14 am, Roadie <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
> - On Oct 31, 10:18 pm, "Unrevealed Source"

> -- <unrevealed_sou...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> -
> - - I've heard complaints that this doesn't have a good AM antenna
> built in.
> -
> - I would be truly amazed if a Eton sold a radio with AM coverage
> - and no AM antennna - wouldn't you?
> - It's got a built in antenna for AM.
>
> The Eton "E1" AM / FM Shortwave Receiver

> ? Missing AM/MW Antenna ? - - - Not !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95ce2c8e2c733395

>
> -
> - - What's the real story with that?
> -
> - The real story is that it uses the whip antenna
> - rather than a wound ferrite for AM reception.
> -
> - - Are people saying that the AM reception is poor with the whip?
> -
> - I haven't heard any people say that. Have you?
> -
> -
>
> Roadie,
>
> Let's see . . . My 1995 Jeep GCL's AM/FM Radio only uses a
> Whip Antenna -HEY- Wait a minute just about every Car and
> Truck on the Road uses 'only' a Whip Antenna -and- They all
> generally get better AM & FM Radio reception then most Home
> Radios with an AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antenna.
>
> FWIW - The Grundig Satellit 800-M only has a 4" AM/MW
> Ferrite Rod Antenna.
> - - - The Ferrite Rod Antenna is the better Bi-Directional Antenna.
>

I think we agree....a rod antenna can work on am.

Roadie

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Nov 2, 2007, 6:50:47 PM11/2/07

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On Nov 1, 7:29 pm, "Unrevealed Source" <unrevealed_sou...@nospam.com>
wrote:

In which review...

Steve

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Nov 2, 2007, 8:57:49 PM11/2/07

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On Nov 1, 8:45 pm, RHF <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Nov 1, 9:14 am, Roadie <hjs...@cs.com> wrote:
> - On Oct 31, 10:18 pm, "Unrevealed Source"

> -- <unrevealed_sou...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> -
> - - I've heard complaints that this doesn't have a good AM antenna
> built in.
> -
> - I would be truly amazed if a Eton sold a radio with AM coverage
> - and no AM antennna - wouldn't you?
> - It's got a built in antenna for AM.
>
> The Eton "E1" AM / FM Shortwave Receiver

> ? Missing AM/MW Antenna ? - - - Not !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/95ce2c8e2c733395

> + Add an AM Loop Antennahttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/5305http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/39bb3961114bd069

> .
> Is It True - That the Eton E1 Uses the Whip Antenna

> For an AM Antenna ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ae93588de069e48
> .
> Eton E1 Radio -and- The "Green" Antenna for AM/MW Radio Receptionhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/11921http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/798143b05b8bc88d
> .
> Looking for the Best AM/MW Antenna for the Eton E1 Radiohttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/3728http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/11799

> and you have many AM/MW Antennas to 'choose' from . . .
> { There is 'best' -and- There Is "The Best" ! }http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d16646f20229208d
> .

> AM/MW Antennas for the Eton E1 Radio to Improved AM/MW Receptionhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/1744http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/6444http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/80a31e4efb7d1e3e

> .
> Using a AM/MW Loop Antenna with the Eton E1 Radio

> Question - Whip Antenna Up-or-Down ?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/2990http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3a3481efb62fb5fe
> .
> Eton E1 Radio + Select-A-Tenna + Lazy Susanhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/2970http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/9944http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/f81044517569c38b

> .
> Stand-a-Lone 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio Test

> Try a Ground for Improved Reception . . . . . . .http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/1702http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/6268http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/96bd9dc5d98b70ae

> .
> .
> e1'ing you all ~ RHF
> .
> Eton E1 Radio Owners and Future E1 Owners
> Including 'future' Grundig G1 Radio Owners

> Check-Out the Eton E1 Radio Group on YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/

> Here is your News, Information and Help Center for the
> -For- ETON E1 RADIO INFO =>http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
> Eton "E1" AM & FM + Shortwave 'World Band' Receiver
> -For- ETON E1 RADIO HELP =>http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
> with optional XM-Satellite-Radio.
> -For- ETON E1 RADIO NEWS =>http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
>
> . . .
> .
> . .
> .
> . . . O u t !

There's no doubt that a whip can work on AM. Of course it can work. At
the same time, I don't think that anyone without an ax to grind would
deny that a ferrite loop is a lot better. There's a reason all those
MW dxers out there are using loops.

RHF

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Nov 2, 2007, 9:27:00 PM11/2/07

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> > + Add an AM Loop Antennahttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/5305http://gro...

> > .
> > Is It True - That the Eton E1 Uses the Whip Antenna
> > For an AM Antenna ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/5ae93588de069e48
> > .

> > Eton E1 Radio -and- The "Green" Antenna for AM/MW Radio Receptionhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/11921http...
> > .
> > Looking for the Best AM/MW Antenna for the Eton E1 Radiohttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/3728http://gro...

> > and you have many AM/MW Antennas to 'choose' from . . .
> > { There is 'best' -and- There Is "The Best" ! }http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d16646f20229208d
> > .

> > AM/MW Antennas for the Eton E1 Radio to Improved AM/MW Receptionhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/1744http://gro...

> > .
> > Using a AM/MW Loop Antenna with the Eton E1 Radio

> > Question - Whip Antenna Up-or-Down ?http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/2990http://gro...
> > .
> > Eton E1 Radio + Select-A-Tenna + Lazy Susanhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/2970http://gro...

> > .
> > Stand-a-Lone 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio Test

> > Try a Ground for Improved Reception . . . . . . .http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/1702http://gro...

> > .
> > .
> > e1'ing you all ~ RHF
> > .
> > Eton E1 Radio Owners and Future E1 Owners
> > Including 'future' Grundig G1 Radio Owners
> > Check-Out the Eton E1 Radio Group on YAHOO !http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/
> > Here is your News, Information and Help Center for the
> > -For- ETON E1 RADIO INFO =>http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
> > Eton "E1" AM & FM + Shortwave 'World Band' Receiver
> > -For- ETON E1 RADIO HELP =>http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
> > with optional XM-Satellite-Radio.
> > -For- ETON E1 RADIO NEWS =>http://tinyurl.com/9lfd7
>
> > . . .
> > .
> > . .
> > .
> > . . . O u t !
>
> There's no doubt that a whip can work on AM. Of course it can work. At
> the same time, I don't think that anyone without an ax to grind would
> deny that a ferrite loop is a lot better. There's a reason all those

> MW dxers out there are using loops.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

For One and All,

As a 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio the Eton E1 Radio
may be lacking an AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antenna . . .

-=BUT IF=- You consider it to be a 'Shortwave Receiver' like my
Kenwood R-5000 and Icom IC-R75 and many others -which are-
Also lacking a a built-in AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antenna . . .

It does and Excellent Job as a 'Shortwave Receiver' all on it's own :
When 'connected' to an External Antenna that allows it to be :
All That It Can Be !

* 100 Foot Random Wire Shortwave Antenna

* 100 Foot Inverted "L" {Low Noise} Shortwave Antenna

* FM Turn-Style Antenna

* Kiwa Air-Core MW Loop Antenna

* Quantum AM/MW Ferrite Rod Antenna

* One-Metre AM/MW 'Turned' Loop Antenna

The Eton E1 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radio :
It's More Than A Radio - It's A Shortwave Receiver ! - imho ~ RHF
.

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