Is it true the Eton E1 uses the whip for an AM Antenna?
dead of night
have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
optional external antenna?
Al Arduengo
I would say that, although it is not quite a DX machine for MW, it is
still respectable with the whip.
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"Don't get too wrapped up in dogma. Who knows? When we get to heaven
there might be a Big Buddha laughing at us while we're all running
around going 'Oh shit!'" - a Catholic bishop
WPE9JRL
immunity to locally generated noise sources within my household. I cannot
rotate it to reject a noise source as compared to a radio with a ferrite
rod.
There is no issue with lack of sensitivity...but there will be more noise
with that signal as compared to a set with a ferrite.
"dead of night" <jrutha...@aol.com> wrote in message
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nsareject...@yahoo.com
Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton Shit receiver, with a
plastic housing and cheap plastic knobs, and add on another $100 for
the extra antennas ! Jesus !
Al Arduengo
Good grief! You are such a naysayer. The truth is that this receiver is
at LEAST as good as the 2010, Sat800, and anything else out there in the
portable family. Why are you on such a mission to speak ill of this radio?
Give it a rest and gfy.
geor...@yahoo.com
I'd recommend using it with an external antenna. If you buy the E1 from
Universal Radio, they give you a free Grundig G-4000 portable that you
can probably sell for about $100. they also have the antenna adapters
for hooking up whatever external antenna you want. I even think I heard
a claim that Eton might provide you with an antenna adapter, maybe
free.
I use a Radio shack loop (discontinued) that is the same as the terk AM
advantage antenna that sells for about $50. this gets me some reception
some nights on MW/AM from Europe, Africa & the Middle East.
Yes, they made a mistake with the antenna connector. But it's still
considered the best portable ever made. George S., MN
nsareject...@yahoo.com
Good grief ! At least, the 2010 and DX-440 had some steel balls !
Al Arduengo
Honestly I find the E1 to be a very solid radio! It weighs a ton and has
a very utilitarian feel to it. The knobs have ZERO wobble or play in
them, the display is immaculate, the whip is beefy and sturdy, the
sync detector is very quick and effective, etc.... what more do you want
other than the ferrite bar?
Telamon
Al Arduengo <al.ar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:45:47 -0800, nsarejectnsareject wrote:
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> >
> > Al Arduengo wrote:
> >> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:58:48 -0800, nsarejectnsareject wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > dead of night wrote:
> >> >> Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that the E1 does not
> >> >> have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
> >> >> that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
> >> >> radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
> >> >> optional external antenna?
> >> >
> >> > Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
> >> > internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
> >> > too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton Shit receiver, with a
> >> > plastic housing and cheap plastic knobs, and add on another $100 for
> >> > the extra antennas ! Jesus !
> >>
> >> Good grief! You are such a naysayer. The truth is that this receiver is
> >> at LEAST as good as the 2010, Sat800, and anything else out there in the
> >> portable family. Why are you on such a mission to speak ill of this radio?
> >>
> >> Give it a rest and gfy.
> >>
> >> "Don't get too wrapped up in dogma. Who knows? When we get to heaven
> >> there might be a Big Buddha laughing at us while we're all running
> >> around going 'Oh shit!'" - a Catholic bishop
> >
> > Good grief ! At least, the 2010 and DX-440 had some steel balls !
>
> Honestly I find the E1 to be a very solid radio! It weighs a ton and has
> a very utilitarian feel to it. The knobs have ZERO wobble or play in
> them, the display is immaculate, the whip is beefy and sturdy, the
> sync detector is very quick and effective, etc.... what more do you want
> other than the ferrite bar?
I don't own one but the specifications sure look good and people that
seem to be normal folk that post here are happy with it.
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Telamon
Ventura, California
nsareject...@yahoo.com
The E1, only "weighs a ton", after you have stuffed all those damn
batteries into it - just like the cheapo S350. Tecsun/Eton/Grundig -
"made with slave wages in China" ! I And yes, the cheapo plastic knobs
wobble !
cuh...@webtv.net
cuhulin
Telamon
cuh...@webtv.net wrote:
> What's the cheapest prices for them E1's nowdays? I might be interested.
> cuhulin
I looked around and found it at $479.00 at http://www.radioworld.ca/
Everyone else seemed to want $500.00
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Telamon
Ventura, California
John Smith I
> ...
> Everyone else seemed to want $500.00
>
All these radios are being made and most likely designed overseas.
In the software industry, foreign engineers can be had for $10,000 USD a
year or less and they think that is a good wage in their country.
Factory workers in china consider $3.00 USD a day a good wage.
Now, when they take this cheap chit, chuck it in a plastic case and
build it in a way where it is lucky to escape its first fall on a hard
surface ... over $100.00 USD and I would tell 'em to keep it.
I don't think the youngsters know any different, they were born during
the time throw-away-junk was becoming all which is obtainable.
Now don't get me wrong, I have a nice receiver, a boat anchor from a
bygone day. The rest is just cheap plastic chit :(
I doubt if you can find any radio which is still manufactured in the
USA--toss the boards into cases and claim "assembled in the usa" or some
such nonsense though ...
Regards,
JS
Telamon
Well, there was the Drake R8B made in the USA. Now it is just Ten-Tec.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
RHF
So does your Car Radio have a built-in Ferrite Rod
Antenna for AM/MW Reception - - - NO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E1-XM-Radio/message/3758
- - - But many AM/MW Radio Listener's wish that their
home radios could receive the AM/MW Band as well
as their Car Radios.
While a Whip Antenna used for AM/MW Radio reception
lacks the directional characteristics of a AM/MW Ferrite
Rod Antenna : When fully extended a Whip Antenna can
have a Greater Signal Capture Area then Ferrite Rod Antenna.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/manuals/E1XM_US_693.pdf
A Whip Antenna with the proper Matching Circuit for AM/MW
Radio Reception an be a very good Antenna for a portable
AM/FM Shortwave Radio.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/manuals/E1XM_US_693.pdf
IIRC - The Eton's built-in Whip Antenna can function as
an Active Antenna for both Shortwave and AM/MW Radio.
The "DX" Control {Antenna RF Signal Amplifier} can be
used with the Whip Antenna for better AM/MW Reception.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/manuals/E1XM_US_693.pdf
The Whip Antenna can be fully extended and layed down
Flat {Horizontal} and then Rotated to help improve it's
directionality to Peak and Null an AM/MW Radio signal.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/manuals/E1XM_US_693.pdf
While the Eton E1 Radio does not have a built-in Ferrite Rod
Antenna. Its AM/MW performance Off-the-Whip is every-bit
as good {if not better then} as the Sangean ATS-909, Sony
ICF-SW7600GR and Grundig 4000A radios using just their
built-in Ferrite Rod Antennas. It may fall behind the GE
Superadios; Grundig S350; Redsun RP2100 and CC Radio
but each of them has large Ferrite Rod Antennas that are
usually not found in most 'portable' AM/MW Shortwave
Radios.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/manuals/E1XM_US_693.pdf
Don't short-change the Eton E1 Radio : It has very good
AM/MW Radio reception using the Whip Antenna.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources/manuals/E1XM_US_693.pdf
yes - it's all in the owner's manual - e1-ing you all ~ RHF
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= = = On Dec 30, 9:41 am, "dead of night"
= = = <jruthazer...@aol.com> wrote:
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- Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that
- the E1 does not have a built- in ferrite AM antenna.
-
- However, I've read in this group that the E1 uses the
- whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car radio.
-
- Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without
- an optional external antenna?
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RHF
On Dec 30, 3:58 pm, nsarejectnsarej...@yahoo.com wrote:
> dead of night wrote:
> > Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that the E1 does not
> > have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
> > that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
> > radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
> > optional external antenna?Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
> internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
> too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton Shit receiver,
- with a plastic housing
- and cheap plastic knobs,
> and add on another $100 for
> the extra antennas ! Jesus !
Plastic ! - Did You Say Plastic ? ~ RHF
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David
wrote:
The Eton cases are very nice plastic.
BTW, my $1,300 Drake has no ferrite bar nor shiny telescoping whip;
did I get ripped off?
RHF
On Dec 31, 5:47 am, David <rick...@knac.com> wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2006 01:23:12 -0800, "RHF" <rhf-newsgro...@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
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> >On Dec 30, 3:58 pm, nsarejectnsarej...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> dead of night wrote:
> >> > Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that the E1 does not
> >> > have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
> >> > that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
> >> > radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
> >> > optional external antenna?Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
> >> internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
> >> too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton Shit receiver,
> >- with a plastic housing
> >- and cheap plastic knobs,
> >> and add on another $100 for
> >> the extra antennas ! Jesus !
>
> >Plastic ! - Did You Say Plastic ? ~ RHF
> > .
> > .
> >. .The Eton cases are very nice plastic.
>
- BTW, my $1,300 Drake has no ferrite bar
- nor shiny telescoping whip; did I get ripped off?
David - Maybe they need a Product Recall . . . :o) ~ RHF
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cuh...@webtv.net
would give that kind of money is for a Watkins Johnson or a Drake R8B
Radio.
cuhulin
cuh...@webtv.net
opinionated opinion.Hck,I never gave a woman over $20.00 before.
cuhulin
Stephan Grossklass
SW8 and thus the Sat 800 when it comes to the internals. The SW8 did not
feature any internal antennas and was to be used with external ones.
Then the Sat 800 had a ferrite antenna, and folks promptly complained
about a multitude of strong birdies on MW (I guess the receiving
sections are decently shielded but the microprocessor and stuff are not,
which didn't matter in the original design). Now much the same
electronics are inside the E1, and people are complaining that it
doesn't have a ferrite antenna...
That a top-notch portable like this should normally have one (of a
considerable length nonetheless) is another matter - electrical antennas
are just about useless when the least bit of nearby RFI is present. So
for AM work, one should plan on using an external AM loop with the E1.
Oh, and it's true that RDS for FM wouldn't have hurt either (a real
Grundig would have had it) - we have a 15 EUR kitchen radio featuring
RDS including CT, so it's not like the chips would be terribly expensive
or anything (apparently there's a Rohm BU1923 inside that one).
Stephan
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HFguy
> As I understand it, the E1 is still quite closely related to the Drake
> SW8 and thus the Sat 800 when it comes to the internals. The SW8 did not
> feature any internal antennas and was to be used with external ones.
> Then the Sat 800 had a ferrite antenna, and folks promptly complained
> about a multitude of strong birdies on MW (I guess the receiving
> sections are decently shielded but the microprocessor and stuff are not,
> which didn't matter in the original design). Now much the same
> electronics are inside the E1, and people are complaining that it
> doesn't have a ferrite antenna...
> That a top-notch portable like this should normally have one (of a
> considerable length nonetheless) is another matter - electrical antennas
> are just about useless when the least bit of nearby RFI is present. So
> for AM work, one should plan on using an external AM loop with the E1.
Someone should produce an external MW ferrite rod accessory antenna for
the E1. It could be mounted on top of the case and would rotate like the
ferrite rod on the Panasonic RF-2200. The signal output of the rod would
connect to one of the external antenna inputs of the E1 with proper
impedance matching, if necessary.
H. State
I have one, it is called a Quantum Loop. Works like a champ. It just
doesn't mount "on top."
RHF
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/message/11921
WAS - Is It True The Eton E1 Radio Uses The Whip
For An AM Antenna ?
- - So for AM work, one should plan on using
- - an external AM loop with the E1.
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- Someone should produce an external MW ferrite rod
- accessory antenna for the E1. It could be mounted
- on top of the case and would rotate like the
- ferrite rod on the Panasonic RF-2200.
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- The signal output of the rod would connect to one
- of the external antenna inputs of the E1 with
- proper impedance matching, if necessary.
-
SG - They have one it is called the "Green" Antenna ~ RHF
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On Jan 1, 10:42 am, Stephan Grossklass <sgrokla-nospam0...@yahoo.de>
wrote: