The Face of Liberal Fascism
saltyfi...@gmail.com
executive pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other
companies as part of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation,
government officials said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/us/politics/22regulate.html
The White House is using the daily press briefing to launch personal
attacks on President Obama's critics, signaling the vast liberal news
media to join in.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31148
FAIRFIELD, Conn. (AP) - Pillars of the community are now pariahs
fearing for their safety in a ritzy area of Connecticut home to many
executives at American International Group Inc. (AIG), hit with a
backlash over bonuses it paid to top brass even as it accepted federal
bailout money.
The payouts to executives appear to have helped put a face on the
economic struggles the country faces, and the anger targeting AIG is
palpable. Death threats have been pouring in since the brouhaha broke,
the company said, and its workers are taking no chances.
"It's scary," one executive said, speaking on condition of anonymity
because he feared retribution. "People are very, very nervous for
their security."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090320/D9720I901.html
Barny Frank called on the regulator for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to
"rescind the retention bonus programs" at the two companies.
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN2049969120090320
President Barack Obama's budget would produce $9.3 trillion in
deficits over the next decade, more than four times the deficits of
Republican George W. Bush's presidency
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090320/D9721GMO0.html
HEIL HITLER!
tianm...@gmail.com
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
>
> HEIL HITLER!
Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services
Committee, said in an interview Friday on 365gay.com that U.S. Supreme
Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a “homophobe.”
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=45432
"Obama Makes Fun of Special Olympics on Jay Leno’s Show"
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=45408
Hitler first mocked, then euthanized them - HEIL HITLER! [get used to
it]
who are you?
> The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of executive
> pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other companies as part
> of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation, government
> officials said.
>
Get use to it idiot!
When capitalism has been controlling people like Communism, oversight and
heavy regulation are the only answer other then TRUE socialism which
would happen if nothing was done.
You can't expect your average citizen to be able to invest in the stock
market, purchase a house or even save for retirement without the
wallstreet bankers screwing you. You DO expect your government to stop a
killer living among you?! Same thing except with your finance.
Unless your a VERY rich republican't, you will benefit ALLOT from these
regulations.
leonox1
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:42 -0700, saltyfishsauce wrote:
> > The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of executive
> > pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other companies as part
> > of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation, government
> > officials said.
>
> Get use to it idiot!
> When capitalism has been controlling people like Communism, oversight and
> heavy regulation are the only answer other then TRUE socialism which
> would happen if nothing was done.
Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
etc.
>
> You can't expect your average citizen to be able to invest in the stock
> market, purchase a house or even save for retirement without the
> wallstreet bankers screwing you.
I'm an average citizen and I invest in the stock market, bought a
home, and save for retirement. In fact, it was Wall Street investors
who helped financed my mortgage.
So much for your "socialism solves everything" idea.
Telamon
<ac03ca8a-18ed-44fa...@f19g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
saltyfi...@gmail.com wrote:
> The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of
> executive pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other
> companies as part of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation,
> government officials said.
< SNIP >
Ignorance and arrogance together is a terrible combination.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
who are you? <Bar...@one.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:42 -0700, saltyfishsauce wrote:
>
> > The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of executive
> > pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other companies as part
> > of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation, government
> > officials said.
> >
>
> Get use to it idiot!
> When capitalism has been controlling people like Communism, oversight and
> heavy regulation are the only answer other then TRUE socialism which
> would happen if nothing was done.
< SNIP >
What do you mean when? Oversight and regulation (not Heavy) are the
providence of government as we are a nation of laws. Repealing
Glass-Steagall was stupid, which Barney Frank proved that beyond a
shadow of a doubt.
Capitalism is not the problem, government is the problem, and the
obomination is going to turn a problem into a disaster.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
~ RHF
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:42 -0700, saltyfishsauce wrote:
> > The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of executive
> > pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other companies as part
> > of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial regulation, government
> > officials said.
>
> Get use to it idiot!
> When capitalism has been controlling people like Communism, oversight and
> heavy regulation are the only answer other then TRUE socialism which
> would happen if nothing was done.
>
> You can't expect your average citizen to be able to invest in the stock
> market, purchase a house or even save for retirement without the
> wallstreet bankers screwing you.
- You DO expect your government to stop
- a killer living among you?!
.
hey, Hey. HEY ! O-Bomb-My-A
How Many American Boys and Girls Did You Kill Today
along with Innocent Iraqi and Afghan Women and Children ?
.
who are you?
> On Mar 21, 10:49 pm, who are you? <Bar...@one.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:42 -0700, saltyfishsauce wrote:
>> > The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of
>> > executive pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other
>> > companies as part of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial
>> > regulation, government officials said.
>>
>> Get use to it idiot!
>> When capitalism has been controlling people like Communism, oversight
>> and heavy regulation are the only answer other then TRUE socialism
>> which would happen if nothing was done.
>
> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
> etc.
>
Keep following Limpbaugh like lemmings and we will be exactly there! Put
some limitations on the rich and large corporations who have no problems
taking money from struggling American family is the only solution.
Unless you like being big, fat, dumb and poor hey, that's a
republican'nt!
Short of drawing pictures, can't be any clearer
dave
The Government is the People. You are the problem. I am the problem.
tianm...@gmail.com
Yes, your twisted ignorance and Liberal Fascist propaganda stupidity
is crystal clear to all who read books other than by Marx.
tianm...@gmail.com
> Telamon wrote:
> > Capitalism is not the problem, government is the problem, and the
> > obomination is going to turn a problem into a disaster.
>
> The Government is the People. You are the problem. I am the problem.
>
Speak for yourself, professor.
tianm...@gmail.com
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:55:37 -0700, leonox1 wrote:
> > On Mar 21, 10:49 pm, who are you? <Bar...@one.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:10:42 -0700, saltyfishsauce wrote:
> >> > The Obama administration will call for increased oversight of
> >> > executive pay at all banks, Wall Street firms and possibly other
> >> > companies as part of a sweeping plan to overhaul financial
> >> > regulation, government officials said.
>
> >> Get use to it idiot!
> >> When capitalism has been controlling people like Communism, oversight
> >> and heavy regulation are the only answer other then TRUE socialism
> >> which would happen if nothing was done.
>
> > Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
> > etc.
>
>
Yes, your twisted ignorance and Liberal Fascist propaganda stupidity
Billy Burpelson
> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
> etc.
Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please
retake World History 101.
I'm NOT defending the Chinese Reds, but you seem to have forgotten them
in your list of commie countries and you seem to have forgotten that
they basically (and sadly) OWN *us*, lock, stock and barrel.
SW_man
This stooge has been selected by the jews, to finish America off,
after the 8 year reign of another mind controlled idiot; The lack of a
paper trail, is what the've got on Obama: rightfully, he isn't even
allowd to hold the highest office in the land, as he'a a naturalizad
US citizen:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pol/1082576740.html
First off; a few comments:
1. This matter has nothing to do with race.
2. This matter has nothing to do with Hillary losing in the Primaries.
3. This matter has nothing to do with Obama "winning" the national
election to become president.
4. This matter has nothing to do with McCain losing in the
presidential election.
5. This matter has nothing to do with Obama’s religion.
What exactly does ANYONE know to be absolute fact about our new
President's life? He makes many claims of attending college and
universities (where did all that money come from), being a Christian,
being born in Hawaii, etc... However, the fact remains that there is
absolutely NO "paper trail" indicating any of this.
Why is it that NO ONE (the DNC, the FEC, the MSM, etc.) has EVER seen
his sealed B.C.? He apparently was never vetted in becoming a State
Senator, U.S. Senator or to run for President. Also of note is the
fact he will NOT release any records, applications or degrees from
Occidental College, Columbia U or Harvard Law School. With such a
successful “academic background” why does he continue to hide all of
these records from the public and his own party – the Democrats?
Another question – as a community organizer, who exactly paid for his
extensive education at these high-priced Universities?
Also, why would Obama himself (along with the DNC), pay big bucks for
high-priced law firms to actually “prevent” the release of his long
version original BC? I’m certain he can afford the $20 fee necessary
to acquire the original from Hawaii. Obama is the ONLY ONE who can
“UNSEAL” this document; it’s HIS BC!
During the 60’s, it would have been quite possible for him to have
been born in Kenya, and then have his “birth” registered in Hawaii –
producing a “second” birth certificate”. (The B.C. posted online and
on his site by Factcheck, the Annenberg Foundation, is a computerized-
generated fake copy. FYI...”African” is not a RACE! That was his
father’s nationality.)
This is a list of documents NOT provided by our President, Barack
Hussein Obama (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro):
1. Original, vault copy of Certificate of Live Birth in the USA — Not
Released
(one version is allegedly "sealed" in Hawaii; original "Kenya" birth
certificate alleged)
2. Certification of Live Birth — Released (proven to be counterfeit)
3. Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
4. Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
5. Soetoro adoption records — Not released
6. Fransiskus Assisi School (Indonesia) - application — Released
7. Punahou School records (Indonesia) — Not released
8. Selective Service Registration — Released ? Proven Counterfeit
9. Occidental College records — Not released
10. Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
11. Columbia College records/application — Not released
12. Columbia thesis — Not released
13. Harvard College records/applications — Not released
14. Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, Not Signed)
15. Baptism certificate — None
16. Medical records — Not released (1 short page released toward end
of campaign)
17. Illinois State Senate records — None (Locked up to prohibit public
viewing)
18. Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost (All other IL state
senators’ records are intact)
19. Law practice client list — Not released
20. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
"The public records of most political figures are already in the
public domain by the time they run for office so there is no hiding
them.” Question: Again, why did NO ONE in the DNC, the FEC, the MSM
ever question his personal past or past records/accomplishments?
It is also a fact that he lived with his mother and stepfather Lolo
Soetoro in Indonesia until the age of 10 (went to school registered as
“Barry Soetoro” an Indonesian citizen, and being of the Muslim faith).
Upon his return to the States, and when he "became of age”, did he
EVER reapply with the necessary government agencies to regain his
status as a Natural Born U.S. Citizen? Also, when did he ever change
his name back to Barack Hussein Obama? Where are all these documents?
Below was the first of the many lawsuits brought upon the DNC and
Barack Hussein Obama to provide proof of U.S. Citizenship. There are
still dozens of cases pending throughout America.
The American people should be knowledgeable and informed on any and
EVERY President's past, and be able to in fact see that this
information is real and legitimate. If President Obama's policy while
holding the highest office in America is "transparency", then it
should begin with the release of these documents.
Yes, it is true that the Supreme Court has not given credence to many
of the lawsuits – due to lack of "standing". There are still dozens of
lawsuits pending in courts around the country and in the Supreme
Court. There is one possible scenario as to why the S.C. will not
fully hear any of these cases; and this may be due to possible
national and international repercussions. In other words "let's leave
well enough alone". This is not acceptable to the hundreds of
thousands of Americans who simply want to know the truth about our
leader. We must ALL live by the laws of the U.S. Constitution – no one
is exempt.
Obama’s “application” for his cabinet and staff members encompasses
extreme scrutiny and detailed background information. He calls for
transparency within his own administration...so let it begin with HIM
coming forward with the missing pieces of his past. Why does he not,
once and for all, simply produce the documentation required so all the
so-called “conspiracy theories” about him can be put to rest?
Is there anyone on CL who could provide a "logical" and “legitimate”
reason as to why the above records and documentation are "sealed" and
why they should not/have not be(en) released?
leonox1
> leonox1 wrote:
> > Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
> > etc.
>
> Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please
> retake World History 101.
LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National
Socialists"
Maybe you should be the one to retake World History 101
>
> I'm NOT defending the Chinese Reds, but you seem to have forgotten them
> in your list of commie countries and you seem to have forgotten that
> they basically (and sadly) OWN *us*, lock, stock and barrel.
No I didn't forget - China is another example of why socialism fails.
Exactly why you think that they *own* us is, well, a mystery to me.
From your level of knowledge, I'm guessing you're a liberal, am I
right?
BDK
@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, wsjam...@gmail.com says...
Your history teachers must be spinning in their graves right now.
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!)
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
dave
Whot happen?
dave
> Obama's missing papers:
>
> This stooge has been selected by the jews, to finish America off,
Too late. A bunch of pervs from Texas beat "the jews" to it.
dave
> On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
>> leonox1 wrote:
>>> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
>>> etc.
>> Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please
>> retake World History 101.
>
> LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National
> Socialists"
>
Billy Burpelson
leonox1 wrote:
>>> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi
>>> Germany, etc.
Billy Burpelson wrote:
>> Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia).
>> Please retake World History 101.
leonox1 wrote:
> LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National
> Socialists"
Well, *you* would be wrong -- suckered in by their name. Please read
below what three (of many) on-line encyclopedia or dictionary sites have
to say:
> Nazism is often considered by scholars to be a form of *fascism*.
> [emphasis added] While it incorporated elements from both left and
> right-wing politics, the Nazis formed most of their alliances on the
> *right*.
and then from another source:
> "By majority consent of both socialists and non-socialists, National
> Socialism (Nazism) and kindred movements are *not* [emphasis added]
> considered to be socialist."
and finally, from the Merriam-Webster on-line dictionary:
Main Entry:
Na·zi
1: a member of a German *fascist* party controlling Germany from 1933 to
1945 under Adolf Hitler.
2: one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : *fascist*
leonox1 wrote:
> Maybe you should be the one to retake World History 101
Well,no. Please read the above again and then *you* go sign up for that
history class.
Billy Burpelson wrote:
>> I'm NOT defending the Chinese Reds, but you seem to have forgotten
>> them in your list of commie countries and you seem to have
>> forgotten that they basically (and sadly) OWN *us*, lock, stock and
>> barrel.
leonox1 wrote:
> No I didn't forget - China is another example of why socialism fails.
> Exactly why you think that they *own* us is, well, a mystery to me.
Some "big mystery"...
...and possibly a slight bit of "poetic license" on my part, but we are
*dependent* on them for a very large percentage of our
manufacturing -and- they own a staggeringly *huge* amount of our debt
(as in, we are beholden to them). If you call this a "failure" on
China's part, please tell us what you consider 'success' to be.
> From your level of knowledge, I'm guessing you're a liberal, am I
> right?
Well, actually you would be wrong yet again.
Telamon
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
I'm willing to correct my mistakes. What do you suggest I do then?
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
tianm...@gmail.com
Oh really! And you know this, how? You were there? What books did
you read?
Come on Dr DaviD, the great Dr. DaviD. Walk accross my swimming
pool. You can do it on your head!
tianm...@gmail.com
<telamon_spamshi...@pacbell.net.is.invalid> wrote:
> In article <y_-dnZCfacRTpFvUnZ2dnUVZ_vyWn...@earthlink.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > Telamon wrote:
Read the book, "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American
Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" by Jonah Goldberg "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
and you will know the history of fascism and its relationship with the
left. Fascism stems from the left. Always has and always will.
Never let them get away with their Liberal fascist propaganda lies.
tianm...@gmail.com
You're a NAZI Fascist!
Telamon
<28a31cec-e791-4f75...@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
tianm...@gmail.com wrote:
> Read the book, "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American
> Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" by Jonah Goldberg "
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
> and you will know the history of fascism and its relationship with the
> left. Fascism stems from the left. Always has and always will.
> Never let them get away with their Liberal fascist propaganda lies.
Looks good.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
~ RHF
WAY {Who Are You},
Every time Obama's Telaprompter has BHO
speak the Name of Rush Limbaugh : Obama
Elevates the "Maha Rushie" to BHO's Level of
Political Importance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh
Every time 'you mimic BHO and speak the Name
of Rush Limbaugh : 'You' Elevate the "El Rushbo"
to a Level of Political Importance greater than BHO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show
.
.
READ - Reverse ObamaNomics© Every Time
Obama Mentions Rush Limbaugh's Name :
Limbaugh's Pay {Public Power} Goes Up !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/83a0f4a32ced4e28
.
US President Barack Hussein Obama Attacks on
Rush Limbaugh Have Made Him Politically Relevant
Again in 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/50bafa7261c7e815
.
Rush Limbaugh Once Again Is Politically Relevant in 2009 :
Thanks To US President Barack Hussein Obama Attacks
On El Rushbo -aka- The Maha Rushie :o))
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/16eff80a8acc881c
.
# 1 - The Listenership of the Rush Limbaugh Show is Up
- - - Rush -says- Thank You President Obama
.
# 2 - Subscriptions to the Rush 24/7 Website are Up.
- - - Rush -says- Thank You President Obama
.
The "Jargon" of The Rush Limbaugh Show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon_of_The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show
.
oops how do you spell b-a-c-k-f-i-r-e ~ RHF
.
Rush Limbaugh .Com
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html
.
ABOUT - Rush Hudson Limbaugh III
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh
http://www.nndb.com/people/428/000022362/
.
The Rush Limbaugh Show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show
.
Premiere Radio Networks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premiere_Radio_Networks
.
-ps- Generally Listened-To the Rush Limbaugh Show
on KVML-AM 1450 kHz from Sonora, CA
http://www.kvmlam.com/index.php
.
.
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> > --
> > Telamon
> > Ventura, California-
>
> Read the book, "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American
> Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" by Jonah Goldberg "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
> and you will know the history of fascism and its relationship with the
> left. Fascism stems from the left. Always has and always will.
>
Mussolini's "National Fascist Party" was dubed "Right wing" by
Orthodox Communists as a way to discredit decent from the Bolshevik
party.
Much the same as todays Neo-Commie Liberals pathetic attempt to dub
Conservatives as "Fascists" in order to discredit decent from the
Democrat Party.
Ref: Joe Lieberman
~ RHF
> SW_man wrote:
> > Obama's missing papers:
>
> > This stooge has been selected by the jews, to finish America off,
>
- A bunch of pervs from Texas beat "the jews" to it.
Dave remind us again how you used to live
in Texas for many years. ~ RHF
.
BDK
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
ROTFL, of course it would, to you. Damn Telemundoh, any person with a
brain in their head knows the Nazis are extreme right wingers.
It obvious why you don't though.
Mike C.
> Every time Obama's Telaprompter has BHO
> speak the Name of Rush Limbaugh : Obama
> Elevates the "Maha Rushie" to BHO's Level of
> Political Importance.
That's "Teleprompter", genius. I guess that's the drawback to getting your
talking points from a radio show - you don't know how to spell them.
Besides, Limbaugh can never and will never be as important as Barack Obama
politically, because Limbaugh is too much of a coward to put it on the line
and run for office.
dave
Melt some tar. I'll buy some pillows.
dave
.
>
> Dave remind us again how you used to live
> in Texas for many years. ~ RHF
> .
Long enough to understand the GOB mindset.
obamao.sux....@gmail.com
> In article <telamon_spamshield-DD3F98.15100722032009
> @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
>
> > > Read the book, "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American
> > > Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" by Jonah Goldberg "
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsFoiVZDSRs
> > > and you will know the history of fascism and its relationship with the
> > > left. Fascism stems from the left. Always has and always will.
> > > Never let them get away with their Liberal fascist propaganda lies.
>
> > Looks good.
>
> ROTFL, of course it would, to you. Damn Telemundoh, any person with a
> brain in their head knows the Nazis are extreme right wingers.
>
> It obvious why you don't though.
> --
> BDK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdPSqL9_mfM
Heil Hitler - LOL!!!!
m II
>> I'm willing to correct my mistakes. What do you suggest I do then?
>>
>
> Melt some tar. I'll buy some pillows.
getting cross with him?
mikkke
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
Of course Kookaburra. No need to educate yourself. You might have to
think to form your own opinion! That would be horrible for you to lift a
mental pinky finger.
> It obvious why you don't though.
Thanks for chiming in and making the liberals look worse for wear. You
can play on the other team anytime you Kooktard.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
dave <da...@dave.dave> wrote:
I'm on it. I'll even throw in a Kookaburra.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
leonox1
LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist.
You can't be much leftist than that.
Brenda Ann
"leonox1" <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6101bf0b-0cce-482a...@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated
socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as
soon as he had what he wanted out of them.
John Barnard
Self-sacrificing - there's hope for you yet, Telemundoh!
JB
m II
> Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated
> socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as
> soon as he had what he wanted out of them.
The Russians were going to attack very soon. It pays to get a head start
and it's better for morale. The division of Poland was a convenience for
both of them.
I've recently read the Russians admitted to framing the Nazis for the
mass murder of thousands of Polish officers.
Note that Germany had war declared on it by the US as soon as it
couldn't afford to make the interest payments to the New York bankers.
mike
Telamon
John Barnard <jf...@shaw.ca> wrote:
I have no problem throwing you into the tar and feathers. You are
already halfway there.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Billy Burpelson
> "leonox1" <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6101bf0b-0cce-482a...@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>> leonox1 wrote:
>>> On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
>>>> leonox1 wrote:
>>>>> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
>>>>> etc.
>>>> Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please
>>>> retake World History 101.
>>> LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National
>>> Socialists"
>> That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty.
>
> LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist.
>
> You can't be much leftist than that.
Brenda Ann wrote:
> Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated
> socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as
> soon as he had what he wanted out of them.
Good luck, Brenda...several of us have tried to explain it several
times, even including academic quotes as support, but he
-just-doesn't-get-it.
BDK
82e551...@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
obamao.sux....@gmail.com says...
Wow, talk about reaching..
BDK
33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, wsjam...@gmail.com says...
Yikes, you wingnuts (Left and right) are scaring me.
BDK
BWHAHAHAHAHAA! Wow, you just reek of kooktardery, Telemundoh. Did you
sleep through all the WWII stuff the poor teachers tried to teach you?
I bet your head rings like a bell when rapped.
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
You reek period kooktard. You never had a thought that wasn't planted in
your head.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
> In article <6101bf0b-0cce-482a-8b5e-8820f81496f1@
> 33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, wsjam...@gmail.com says...
> > On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > > leonox1 wrote:
> > > > On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
> > > >> leonox1 wrote:
> > > >>> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi
> > > >>> Germany,
> > > >>> etc.
> > > >> Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please
> > > >> retake World History 101.
> > >
> > > > LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National
> > > > Socialists"
> > >
> > > That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a
> > > lefty.
> >
> > LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist.
> >
> > You can't be much leftist than that.
> >
>
> Yikes, you wingnuts (Left and right) are scaring me.
You are extra frightened and paranoid tonight. You must have forgotten
your meds again. Go take them so you will feel all better again.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
A familiar move for you kooktard. Salute your fascist leader.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
BDK
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net>,
telamon_s...@pacbell.net.is.invalid says...
What fascist leader is that, Telemundoh?
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
Your fascist leader, the obomination clueless kooktard.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
BDK
LOL, he IS the leader of the USA. Are you giving up your citizenship?
I'm not even a Democrat, or a Republican, Telemundoh. I thought Bush was
a total disaster, but I didn't call him a Nazi, just an idiot. I'm kind
of ashamed to admit I voted for him in 2000.
You really seem to be going totally over the top with your Obama
obsession.
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
You are a Kookaburra.
> I thought Bush was a total disaster, but I didn't call him a Nazi,
> just an idiot. I'm kind of ashamed to admit I voted for him in 2000.
Sure thing.
> You really seem to be going totally over the top with your Obama
> obsession.
He is your obsession not mine. I didn't vote for him, I don't follow him.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
BDK
And you're a kooktardic loon, Telemundoh. Now that we've got that out of
the way...
>
> > I thought Bush was a total disaster, but I didn't call him a Nazi,
> > just an idiot. I'm kind of ashamed to admit I voted for him in 2000.
>
> Sure thing.
>
> > You really seem to be going totally over the top with your Obama
> > obsession.
>
> He is your obsession not mine. I didn't vote for him, I don't follow him.
>
>
Another irony meter, shot to hell.
Billy Burpelson
BDK wrote:
> I'm not even a Democrat, or a Republican, Telemundoh. I thought Bush was
> a total disaster, but I didn't call him a Nazi, just an idiot. I'm kind
> of ashamed to admit I voted for him in 2000.
...and ol' Billy didn't vote for him in 2000 OR 2004. See, we ARE two
different people, TelaDumbo.
dxAce
That's because Carter is a Marxist dufus!
dave
Prescott Bush's early business efforts tended to fail. He married the
daughter of a very rich man named George Herbert Walker (the guy with
the compound at Kennebunkport, Maine, that now belongs to the Bush
family, and the origin of Dubya's middle initial). Walker installed
Prescott Bush as an executive in Thyssen and Flick. From then on,
Prescott's business dealings went better, and he entered politics.
Now, the name Thyssen comes from a German named Fritz Thyssen, major
financial backer of the rise of Adolph Hitler. Thyssen was referred to
in the New York Herald-Tribune as "Hitler's Angel." During the 1930s and
early 1940s, and even as late as 1951, Prescott Bush was involved in
business dealings with Thyssen, and was inevitably aware of both
Thyssen's political activities and the fact that the companies involved
were financially benefiting the nation of Germany. In addition, the
companies Prescott Bush profited from included one engaged in mining
operations in Poland using slave labor from Auschwitz. Two former slave
laborers have sued the U.S. government and the heirs of Prescott Bush
for $40 billion.
Until the United States entered World War II it was legal for Americans
to do business with Germany, but in late 1942 Prescott Bush's businesses
interests were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act. Among those
businesses involved was the Hamburg America Lines, for which Prescott
Bush served as a manager. A Congressional committee, in a report called
the McCormack-Dickstein Report, found that Hamburg America Lines had
offered free passage to Germany for journalists willing to write
favorably about the Nazis, and had brought Nazi sympathizers to America.
(Is this starting to remind anyone of our current president's
relationship to the freedom of the press?)
The McCormack-Dickstein Committee was established to investigate a
homegrown American fascist plot hatched in 1933. Here's how the BBC
promoted its recent story:
"Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by
right-wing American businessmen. The coup was aimed at toppling
President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war
veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most
famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea,
Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their
country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the
great depression. Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about
this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy."
Actually, if you listen to the 30-minute BBC story, there is not one
word of so much as speculation as to why this story is so little known.
I think a clue to the answer can be found by looking into why this BBC
report has not led to any U.S. media outlets picking up the story this week.
The BBC report provides a good account of the basic story. Some of the
wealthiest men in America approached Marine Corps Major General Smedley
Butler, beloved of many World War I veterans, many of them embittered by
the government's treatment of them. Prescott Bush's group asked Butler
to lead 500,000 veterans in a take-over of Washington and the White
House. Butler refused and recounted the affair to the congressional
committee. His account was corroborated in part by a number of
witnesses, and the committee concluded that the plot was real. But the
names of wealthy backers of the plot were blacked out in the committee's
records, and nobody was prosecuted. According to the BBC, President
Roosevelt cut a deal. He refrained from prosecuting some of the
wealthiest men in America for treason. They agreed to end Wall Street's
opposition to the New Deal.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3530365
Telamon
BDK <TopS...@sanity.com> wrote:
Just more crap from the kookaburra. You can't get out of your own way
kooktard.
> > > I thought Bush was a total disaster, but I didn't call him a Nazi,
> > > just an idiot. I'm kind of ashamed to admit I voted for him in 2000.
> >
> > Sure thing.
> >
> > > You really seem to be going totally over the top with your Obama
> > > obsession.
> >
> > He is your obsession not mine. I didn't vote for him, I don't follow him.
> >
> >
>
> Another irony meter, shot to hell.
Yeah, anyone reading you is well aware your mental facilities are shot.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
Yeah, the left hand and the right hand and I'm sure in your case the
left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
Telamon
dxAce <dx...@milestones.com> wrote:
Carter could not find his brain with both hands.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
BDK
You're imagining I'm a sockpuppet, or think Billy is my sockpuppet (You
tell me) and you say I can't get out of my own way?
ROTFL. You poor kooktard.
>
> > > > I thought Bush was a total disaster, but I didn't call him a Nazi,
> > > > just an idiot. I'm kind of ashamed to admit I voted for him in 2000.
> > >
> > > Sure thing.
> > >
> > > > You really seem to be going totally over the top with your Obama
> > > > obsession.
> > >
> > > He is your obsession not mine. I didn't vote for him, I don't follow him.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Another irony meter, shot to hell.
>
> Yeah, anyone reading you is well aware your mental facilities are shot.
'
But I'm not a sockpuppet imagining loon, am I, Telemundoh??
leonox1
> "leonox1" <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Oh I see. Hitler could not be a socialist because he was a facist.And
the Nazi part didn't call themselves "National Socialists" or
implement any socialist programs.
Thanks for straightening that out.
John Barnard
You don't follow Obama but only follow his birth certificate. If that
ain't obsession, I don't what is!
JB
John Barnard
know the differences between the basic economic systems.
JB
~ RHF
> On Mar 23, 9:00 pm, "Brenda Ann" <bren...@shinbiro.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "leonox1" <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:6101bf0b-0cce-482a...@33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > > leonox1 wrote:
> > > > On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson <bi...@burpelsonafb.net> wrote:
> > > >> leonox1 wrote:
> > > >>> Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany,
> > > >>> etc.
> > > >> Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please
> > > >> retake World History 101.
>
> > > > LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National
> > > > Socialists"
>
> > > That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty.
>
> > LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist.
>
> > You can't be much leftist than that.
>
> > Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated
> > socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as
> > soon as he had what he wanted out of them.
- Oh I see. Hitler could not be a socialist
- because he was a facist.
- And the Nazi part didn't call themselves
- "National Socialists" or implement any
- socialist programs.
-
- Thanks for straightening that out.
-from- Wikipedia
The National Socialist German Workers' Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_German_Workers%E2%80%99_Party
(German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
Abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English
as the NAZI Party
(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP)
Today we have 21st Century "Liberal-Fascism"
and the Liberal-Fascist Agents of Social Change.
-aka- The Democrat Party of the USA attempting
to Socialize the Nation under their One Party Control
with their Charismatic Leader {Totalitarian} Barack
'Hussein' Obama . -aka- Change You Can Believe In !
-aka- "The Third Way" via Fascism Authoritarian {Elitist}
and Totalitarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_position
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
- Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
- Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/af4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/efbc4aa52f959d40
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
.
Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
.
Time often changes Words and the Meaning
of Words; and that is part of the Evolution of
Language with the Passage of Time.
.
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
.
Liberal & Fascist have now become One Newly
'Hyphenated' {Combination} Word "Liberal-Fascist"
with it's own new unique meaning.
.
ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
"The Great Leader's" Socialist Economic Competence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/9876df6e26d1b4c8
.
history could be repeating itself
all over again - idtars ~ RHF
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