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Ritas Place

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Mar 30, 2012, 5:15:33 PM3/30/12
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Who is Andrew B. Chung???? I have a husband who is Type II Diabetic and
I come here to get some much needed info when I can... I didn't expect
to see all this religious non-sense !! Aren't there any newsgroups for
religious freaks who need to comment on anything and everything under
the sun??
Why do you have to ruin this group for people like me, Andrew B. Chung?
I get my religion from other places, NOT a diabetic newsgroup !~! Sorry
if I offended any one here, but I seem to do that when I am
offended...Rita

A Moose in Love

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Mar 30, 2012, 5:38:13 PM3/30/12
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The solution is simple. Ignore him.

Julie Bove

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Mar 30, 2012, 5:44:44 PM3/30/12
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"Ritas Place" <Ritas...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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He is a quack. If you have a computer and a newsreader you can killfile
him. That means you'll never see his posts. I don't know how Web TV works.
I don't know if you can do that. I killfile not only him but anyone who
posts to him.


Ritas Place

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Mar 30, 2012, 5:52:54 PM3/30/12
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A Quack -- Well, that about says it all.. Why does a person like that
have to ruin a good, informative newsgroup with all the gibberish..
I do have a computer, but I am an amputee with major health problems,
and can no longer use it... I use this old Webtv because it is handy and
easier for me to use than any type of computer...

I will keep checking in for any info that will help me deal with
husbands diabetes..
Thanks for your reply...Much appreciated.. Rita

MaryL

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Mar 30, 2012, 6:13:40 PM3/30/12
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"Ritas Place" wrote in message
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I think most of us on this group have either killfiled him (which can be
difficult because he often changes his address) or simply ignore him--skim
by any message that has his name attached. There are many on this group who
have a great deal of knowledge and are eager to share it.

MaryL

Cheri

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:26:44 PM3/30/12
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"Ritas Place" <Ritas...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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He's been quacking along for many years, not really going to change that, so
either killfile him or ignore him is about your only choice.

Cheri

W. Baker

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Mar 30, 2012, 7:30:44 PM3/30/12
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Ritas Place <Ritas...@webtv.net> wrote:
: A Quack -- Well, that about says it all.. Why does a person like that
I don't know much about web TV, but does your mail com i threads, so all
the stuff in response to something is listing together in a line and
antoher topic gets a separate section? If it does, I just skip any topic
that Ch--g has started or that is supposed to go to many different group
besides ASD so I don't get as bothered by him.

Welcome to the group adn I hope you stay and find useful material here.
It has been , over the years, very useful to me in getting my diabetes
under control

Wendy

trigonometry1972@gmail.com |

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:44:43 PM3/30/12
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Andy is mental, IMO. And some of those who follow him around the
usenet are also mental, IMO.
Ignore him and anyone who answers his posting too often.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 30, 2012, 8:42:15 PM3/30/12
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Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I have lost more weight. I can tell. Not sure how much. I have on a pair
> of pants that I bought at least 17 years ago. Probably longer. I just know
> I got them where I used to work. They used to fit. They're now too big. I
> also have on a top that Angela told me used to not be flattering. Because
> of the print on it, it made it look like my tummy was really jutting out.
> Which it was. This just accentuated it. My stomach isn't instantly flat.
> But it is down so much now that I can barely see it when I look down. I
> just see the boobies. Used to be that the stomach jutted out more.
>
> My BG was up a bit this morning. About 171 I think. But it dropped after
> breakfast to the 80's where it has stayed all day.
>
> We got food from Burgermaster for dinner. Which we haven't done for years.
> I got a burger with two patties and some fries. The bun looked really big
> so I didn't eat much of it. I did eat all of the fries because they were so
> good. And a salad of lettuce and tomatoes.
>
> Was at 87 when it was time to shoot my night insulin. I am not supposed to
> drop below 90. I haven't taken the insulin yet. I ate the bowl of popcorn
> I made but I began to feel chilled, shaky and unwell like I get when I have
> a hypo. I didn't retest. I ate a fruit snack and am hoping that will make
> me feel better. But I feel starved! I want to eat more. A lot more.
> Especially protein. But I don't know what I can eat. I did eat the chia
> seeds prior to the popcorn. There is protein in there. I can't have
> chicken, eggs fish or dairy. And I don't dare eat nuts because I don't want
> to add the fat of those onto the fat of the popcorn. I do have some turkey
> breast in the fridge but I don't think I can bring myself to eat it if it
> isn't on bread. I just don't like turkey that much. And I don't really
> want to eat more hamburger. I do have some bacon but there's that fat
> again.
>
> What I don't understand is why I feel so hungry? Normally I am not hungry
> at all, ever. Could the gatroparesis be getting better? Could eliminating
> the food intolerances be causing me to lose weight? Be hungry? I don't
> know. It's just so frustrating.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eb477f76c3071d56?

It is normal to be hungrier when euglycemic (i.e. BG in the normal
range of 70-90 mg/dl)

Not being hungry (i.e. not being able to eat) is not normal.

Having gastroparesis is not normal and is associated with not being
able to eat (i.e. not hungry).

Being hungrier does mean losing VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue) which
explains the improvement in BG control.

Be hungrier, which really is wonderfully healthier especially for
diabetics and other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
EmoryIMVC.org Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9ad0c19df5ffc2f7?

Wes Groleau

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Mar 30, 2012, 9:56:05 PM3/30/12
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On 03-30-2012 19:26, Cheri wrote:
> He's been quacking along for many years, not really going to change
> that, so either killfile him or ignore him is about your only choice.

And don't mention his name again. He likes that and will reward you
with personal attention. Personal, but anyone who didn't killfile him
gets to read the subject lines.

--
Wes Groleau

Nutrition for Blokes: Re-engineering your diet for life
http://www.phlaunt.com/quentin

Budd Cochran

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Mar 31, 2012, 12:05:41 AM3/31/12
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"Ritas Place" <Ritas...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Just so you know, there are a few Christians in the group that neither
condone his activities nor find his "teachings" to be scriptural ...
actually, they're non-contextual and heretical.

Welcome to the group. Hope we can be of some help.

Budd



Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 31, 2012, 12:32:20 AM3/31/12
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Rita wrote:

> Who is Andrew B. Chung????

A licensed physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) so that all who
write here that he is a quack is legally guilty of libel:

http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/defamation-in-cyberspace.html

> I have a husband who is Type II Diabetic and
> I come here to get some much needed info when I can... I didn't expect
> to see all this religious non-sense !!

This physician actually advocates http://WDJW.net/NoReligion

> Aren't there any newsgroups for
> religious freaks who need to comment on anything and everything under
> the sun??

Those of us who advocate http://WDJW.net/NoReligion are by definition
not religious as others here are religious:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.diabetes/msg/8317728441af4e22?

> Why do you have to ruin this group for people like me, Andrew B. Chung?

This group is ruined by those who suffer from the "hunger is
starvation" delusion and not by those of us who cure the delusion via
the truth (John 14:6).

> I get my religion from other places, NOT a diabetic newsgroup !~! Sorry
> if I offended any one here, but I seem to do that when I am
> offended...Rita

The truth (John 14:6) is GOD, Who is not a religion.

Dr. Brian Gene Kelley, PhD

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Mar 31, 2012, 2:45:07 AM3/31/12
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On Mar 30, 9:32 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:
> Rita wrote:
> > Who is Andrew B. Chung????
>
> A licensed physician (http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc) so that all who
> write here that he is a quack is legally guilty of libel:

That being virtually everyone who has ever read Dr. Chung on usenet :-)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mar 31, 2012, 5:01:35 AM3/31/12
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someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:
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> Andrew B. Chung's internet attention has withered away like the fig
> tree in Matthew 21:19 and for the same reason :-)

The fig tree of Matthew 21:19 withered from losing the LORD's
blessing just as you are withering away.

In the interim, this physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is
http://WDJW.net/WonderfullyHungrier allowing him to know that he is
being more blessed now (Luke 6:21a) with more attention from the LORD
as His plans (Jeremiah 29:11) are being realized :-)

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d643b97da78aab98?

duke wrote:
> someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15) wrote:
>
> > Paul is not talking about just saying the words "Jesus is Lord".
> > Anyone can say that.

Lie.

The following religious Christian children can't though they wanted to
in order to get extra pieces of candy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

> > Even demons can say it through people whom they
> > have possessed

Demons possess only those who can say "Jesus is LORD" and do so when
there has been a failure to http://WDJW.net/Guard (Proverbs 4:23) the
heart which is deceitfully wicked (Jeremiah 17:9) in allowing them to
abide there.

> Amen to that.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) is reminded that Jesus
rescuing His sheep who had wandered (Matthew 15:24) by casting out the
demons that possessed them is different from His saving the souls of
the religious like Nicodemus who needed to be born again (John 3:3 &
5) to become new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) http://WDJW.net/Forgiven
by GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f47fae452f4e5d7a?

someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung is claiming that besides Jesus Christ, Andrew B. Chung
> is the only true living human Bible teacher;

Lie.

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not made that claim
for he is not a Bible teacher simply because physicians are by
definition not Bible teachers though the Great Physician is also the
Great Bible Teacher. Just as your church is not the Church (Matthew
16:18) Christ is building, your Bible teacher is not the Great Bible
Teacher, and your lord (satan) is not LORD Almighty GOD.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f26f91ad51db396?

someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be interesting to see Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> post a link to an interpreter/teacher of Scripture whom Andrew B.
> Chung doesn't consider to be false?

It really wouldn't be interesting to the discerning.

Any born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Bible teacher who truthfully says they
are "wonderfully hungry" whenever they are greeted would be someone
who would be a truthful Bible teacher.

Here is a link to the written words of Apostle Paul, who is one such
example of a truthful Bible teacher:

http://t.co/5UPcZDxa

Here is a link to a YouTube video of another:

http://youtu.be/-URd0CQsTyo

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a0602460d126e75e?

someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15)
wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"Anyone can say 'Jesus is LORD'" -- A false Bible teacher cited by
someone whose name has been blotted(Rev3:5) from His Book(Rev20:15) of
Life.

Source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNu5bC5hT0

"No one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." -- Apostle
Paul (1 Corinthians 12:3)

Verification of 1 Corinthians 12:3 by a gentile Christian disciple ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo53axJ4x1o

(Though the above featured religiously Christian children wanted to
say 'Jesus is LORD' for extra pieces of candy, they could not because
they needed to be born again per John 3:3 & 5 to become new creatures
http://WDJW.net/Forgiven by GOD per 2 Corinthians 5:17 so that He
would be their GOD per Ezekiel 11:19-20 & 36:26 and they would be His
children)

May GOD ever so severely curse to the Nth generation all who grieve
His Holy Spirit by falsely teaching that "Anyone can say 'Jesus is
LORD'" in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

"Deaf-mutes obviously can't say anything much less say 'Jesus is LORD'
except by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the statement 'Anyone can say
"Jesus is LORD"' has been logically proven to be false since anyone
would include deaf-mutes." -- gentile Christian disciple in the Holy
Spirit

Suggested additional reading:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5be9c7429d83a0d0?

**and**

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

someone whose name has been blotted from His Book of Life(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> Only Satan would try to lull people into a false assurance of
> Salvation in Jesus Christ, by claiming it's summed up in someone's
> ability to parrot the second half of a Bible verse.

Only those who work for satan would claim they know what satan would
do.

It is written that the deceived like you would be deceiving others,
going from bad to worse (2 Timothy 3:13).

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has the experience of
training parrots to speak and has discovered that they cannot say
"Jesus is LORD" with their mouth (Romans 10:9) much less the entirety
of the second half of 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Lisa McClung has a similar experience as evident by her African grey
parrot being able to say many religious phrases **except** "Jesus is
LORD" as seen on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT_0gyOQI1E

Thus, you have been caught in another lie.

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/06fa5c7ff7727403?

someone whose name has been blotted from His Book of Life(Rev20:15)
wrote:
>
> The charlatan Christian says, "The fact that I can quote the words
> written in 1 Corinthians 12:3b, proves that I'm a genuine Christian".

Source:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/524c5702d8c4db06?

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/HeartDoc ) has not witnessed anyone
saying that.

Instead, what he has witnessed is born-again (John 3:3 & 5) Christians
saying "no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1
Corinthians 12:3)

> But remember that Satan also quoted Scripture (Psalm 91:11) in Matthew
> 4:5-6

This physician ( http://WDJW.net/Healer ) remembers Jesus Christ of
Nazareth pointing out that satan cannot call Him LORD (Matthew 4:7)
for if he could, he would have prefaced with "LORD, if You are the Son
of GOD ..." in Matthew 4:6.

> and that one of his servants can just as easily quote 1
> Corinthians 12:3b.

Actually, you cannot just as your master (satan) cannot for "no one
can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Corinthians
12:3).

May GOD ever so severely curse you and all around you to the Nth
generation, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.

This prayer is being answered by GOD with all glory to the Father:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a9494e037c47b328?

Bottom line concerning you:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be51c482109ff735?

Tiger Lily

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Apr 1, 2012, 3:04:44 AM4/1/12
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yup, i will scroll down a thread and "mark all as read" if there is an
ABC component to it

being able to remove ALL posts crossposted to ONE specific group has
resolved the problem entirely

it's a shame watching him spiral down down down

wonder how much longer his parents are going to support him?


hemyd

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Apr 3, 2012, 12:39:45 AM4/3/12
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"Ritas Place" <Ritas...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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As someone here would have probably already told you, the usenet (newsgroups
such as ASD) is unmoderated. That means anyone can post, with no ability by
anyone to stop such posts from appearing. The disadvantage of this is that
crackpots, kids, trolls, spammers and scammers can post with impunity; the
advantage is, though, that people can also post information which does not
necessarily follow any dogma, or a perhaps incorrect "traditional" belief.
It is up to you to determine which information is relevant to your problems
and credible.

In the 18 years I've been reading and posting first on MHD then on ASD I've
see plenty of malicious types and crackpots; I have, however, also obtained
a lot of useful information which I am certain has prolonged my life.

It takes me a second or two to determine whose posts I won't bother
reading...

Henry.


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