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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:50:29 AM11/18/09
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Kumar wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> In view of following terms, can increase in insulin's exposure to
> target cells by irregular food habits, by oral hypoglycemic medicines
> and/or by exogenous insulin cause down-regulation of insulin receptors
> resulting insulin resistance?

No.

By GOD's amazing design, there is no down-regulation of insulin
receptors.

Otoh, the dysregulation of the entire multi-organ glucose uptake
system leading to insulin resistance (IR/MetS) arises as a consequence
of acquired visceral adiposity (VAT) which is 100% pathological.

Thus, it remains smart to eat the right amount (32 oz) of daily food
to lose the VAT thereby curing the IR/MetS:

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for diabetics and
other heart disease patients:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
and Author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f882137d4e2858d8?

ver...@gefinden.com

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:27:20 PM11/18/09
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"By GOD's amazing design, there is no down-regulation of insulin
receptors."

By that same design receptors of many kinds in a feedback loop increase
and decrease. Provide research showing that insulin receptors is one of
the exceptions.

"Otoh, the dysregulation of the entire multi-organ glucose uptake system
leading to insulin resistance (IR/MetS) arises as a consequence of
acquired visceral adiposity (VAT) which is 100% pathological."

Vat is a normal part of all humans. It plays an important role in
normal metabolism. As with many things it is when it is in excess that
problems can occur.

The most effective approach to reducing abnormal vat is exercise and
calorie restriction with a nutritious dietary plan until normal weight
range is reached. The former first and selectively helps without the
latter, both work in concert for best results.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:43:55 AM11/19/09
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Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic, for which there is
no vaccine, at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the
probable eventuality of a Pan-Flu virus deadlier than the current H1N1
Pandemic virus (i.e. one for which there is no vaccine):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier especially for diabetics and

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:26:45 AM11/22/09
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Kumar wrote:
> Kumar wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > In view of following terms, can increase in insulin's exposure to
> > target cells by irregular food habits, by oral hypoglycemic  medicines
> > and/or by exogenous insulin cause down-regulation of insulin receptors
> > resulting insulin resistance? Please give special attention to long &
> > very long acting insulins.
> >
> > Down Regulation
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downregulation_and_upregulation
> >
> > Insulin Oscillations
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_oscillations
> >
> > Insulin
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
> >
> > Insulin Degradation
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9793760
> >
> > Best wishes.
>
> Where are people for this interesting issue which may indicate true
> cuprit behind insulin resistance? Obesity, Viceral obesity etc., so
> thought culprits may be a saturation point to energy stores beyond
> which down-regulation/IR starts.

True cause is not eating the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:

http://WDJW.net/BeSmart

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for diabetics and

Kumar

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:14:47 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 8:10 pm, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...@usenet-news.net>
wrote:
> "Kumar" <lordshiva5...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:57537b94-4e21-4e73...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > In view of following terms, can increase in insulin's exposure to
> > target cells by irregular food habits, by oral hypoglycemic  medicines
> > and/or by exogenous insulin cause down-regulation of insulin receptors
> > resulting insulin resistance? Please give special attention to long &
> > very long acting insulins.
>
> > Down Regulation
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downregulation_and_upregulation
>
> > Insulin Oscillations
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_oscillations
>
> > Insulin
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
>
> > Insulin Degradation
>
> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9793760
>
> > Best wishes.
>
> I've found newsgroup alt.support.diabetes a better source of information
> about diabetes than sci.med.cardiology.  Be especially wary of anything
> crossposted between the sci.med.cardiology newsgroup and any of the
> diabetes newsgroups, because such crossposted messages seldom
> contain much if any useful information about either diabetes or cardiology.
>
> Newsgroup misc.health.diabetes used to be a good source of information
> about diabetes, before the spammers started overloading it with ads that
> don't even mention diabetes.
>
> Robert Miles- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for suggestion.

ver...@gefinden.com

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:51:48 PM11/22/09
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"True cause is not eating the right amount (32 oz) of food per day:"

Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected, the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

The weight part came from a failed knowledge of a particular verse in
scripture. When shown to be wrong, he promptly said he had been given a
new interpretation to set the record straight. And of course this new
information led where the agenda demands.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which do not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

There is a larger problem then misinformation obvious to anyone familiar
with the inventor's posts.

May God bless and protect and heal.

Kumar

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:48:18 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 22, 10:24 am, Kumar <lordshiva5...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 18, 10:13 am, Kumar <lordshiva5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello,
>
> > In view of following terms, can increase in insulin's exposure to
> > target cells by irregular food habits, by oral hypoglycemic  medicines
> > and/or by exogenous insulin cause down-regulation of insulin receptors
> > resulting insulin resistance? Please give special attention to long &
> > very long acting insulins.
>
> > Down Regulation
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downregulation_and_upregulation
>
> > Insulin Oscillations
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_oscillations
>
> > Insulin
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin
>
> > Insulin Degradation
>
> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9793760
>
> > Best wishes.
>
> Where are people for this interesting issue which may indicate true
> cuprit behind insulin resistance? Obesity, Viceral obesity etc., so
> thought culprits may be a saturation point to energy stores beyond
> which down-regulation/IR starts. Look at it:-
>
> "The process of downregulation occurs when there are elevated levels
> of the hormone insulin in the blood."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downregulation_and_upregulation
>
> "The oscillations are believed to be important for insulin sensitivity
> by preventing downregulation of insulin receptors in target cells."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_oscillations"
>
> Many long acting insulins can have prolonged & constant exposure due
> to slow release as also indicated here:-
>
> ""... The activity of LANTUS® results in a relatively constant
> concentration/time profile over 24 hours with no pronounced peak...
> Long-acting LANTUS® provides a continuous level of insulin, mimicking
> the slow, steady (basal) secretion of insulin provided by the normal
> pancreas. .http://www.lantus.com/m/hcp/how/default.aspx""- Hide quoted text -

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:43:47 AM11/23/09
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Bottom line concerning your feigned issues with the 2PD-OMER Approach:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba8379f6c69b4310?

<><

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

Being hungrier truly is healthier especially for diabetics and other

Ken

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:50:35 AM11/23/09
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Board-certified Spamming Fundy Fuckwadd

Bottom line concening chung


Clinical Sociopathic *NARCISSISM*"
Having 5 of these 9 "qualifies" a person as a narcissist...
How many of these fit him to a "T"?


1. Feels grandiose and self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents to the point of lying, demands to be
recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome
power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral
narcissist),
bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or
ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion
3. Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special,
can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate
with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or
institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and
affirmation - or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be
notorious (narcissistic supply).
5. Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favourable
priority treatment. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or
her expectations
6. Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve
his or her own ends
7. Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with or
acknowledge the feelings and needs of others
8. Constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the same
about him or her
9. Arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes coupled with rage when
frustrated, contradicted, or confronted


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:03:55 AM11/24/09
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Ken wrote in part:
>
> Schizophrenia can set in at any time but it's usual shows up in early
> adulthood.
>
> I'm predisposed due to my biological maw spending her adult life in a
> hospital as a paranoid schizophrenic before passing in '66

Source:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/40a1fbe0d8ff812a?

Only the truth, Who is Jesus, can keep you from becoming more
delusional like your mom was.

Bottom line concerning you, Ken:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e444a7f27fc8ae79?

Truth is reality ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/459c9c0ed3b24ca2?

... despite your efforts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3160f9fd903ab7c2?

There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?

May GOD give you, Ken, a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20
and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John
3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Be hungrier, which truly is healthier especially for diabetics and

Ken

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