Frost Owl
hy_b...@shaw.ca
Sidney Lambe
> The goddess kisses you.
There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
sense that those words are usually meant.
There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
and nothing can stand in our way.
All existence is blessed, so there isn't anything that
needs some supposed god/goddess's blessing, which would
be redundant.
Sid
--
My newsfilter kills more than half the posts to these groups,
including replies to any name in my killfile. So if I don't
respond to a reply it is because I didn't see it.
Thou shalt not suffer a troll to speak in thine presence.
ren
> The goddess kisses you.
And the gods kiss you.
ren
> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
> sense that those words are usually meant.
>
> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
> and nothing can stand in our way.
That is your definition of a god, Sid. Wiccan Gods are not prayed to
for deliverance. Wiccan Gods demand we help ourselves through magick.
They demand that we become gods ourselves. So actually, our views here
are quite similar.
There is a difference though. You are standing in our way. And we as
goddesses and gods by the power of our Wiccan gods will also be
standing in yours.
Parse Tree
> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> The goddess kisses you.
>
> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
> sense that those words are usually meant.
You must be new here. We on ARW don't ever use words to mean what they
mean, and instead only use them to mean what they aren't.
Parse Tree
> On Dec 17, 5:19 am, Sidney Lambe <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
>> sense that those words are usually meant.
>>
>> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
>> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
>> and nothing can stand in our way.
>
> That is your definition of a god, Sid. Wiccan Gods are not prayed to
> for deliverance. Wiccan Gods demand we help ourselves through magick.
> They demand that we become gods ourselves. So actually, our views here
> are quite similar.
Yeah. That's why I stole the tablets of fate that one time, and that
other time when I hooked up with a cleric of Paladine.
> There is a difference though. You are standing in our way. And we as
> goddesses and gods by the power of our Wiccan gods will also be
> standing in yours.
Not me. I'm constantly whirling about, and shooting lasers from my eyes.
hy_b...@shaw.ca
Thank you.
hy_b...@shaw.ca
haha.. :O
hy_b...@shaw.ca
> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> The goddess kisses you.
>
> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
> sense that those words are usually meant.
How are these words usually mean?
And in which sense to gods and goddesses exist for you?
> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
> and nothing can stand in our way.
And sometimes the gods/goddesses help us, when we help ourselves or ask
for help. And sometimes we are gods and goddesses.
> All existence is blessed, so there isn't anything that
> needs some supposed god/goddess's blessing, which would
> be redundant.
Yes, all is blessed.
All is kissed.
Seamus
$zQ3....@newsfe12.iad:
> The goddess kisses you.
I fail my "Save vs. Affection" check.
__
"I attempt to sneak up on the 'gazebo'. Does it see me?"
Sidney Lambe
ren <ren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 17, 5:19=A0am, Sidney Lambe <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
>> sense that those words are usually meant.
>>
>> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
>> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
>> and nothing can stand in our way.
>
> That is your definition of a god, Sid. Wiccan Gods are not prayed to
> for deliverance. Wiccan Gods demand we help ourselves through magick.
> They demand that we become gods ourselves. So actually, our views here
> are quite similar.
The so-called "wiccan gods" are the creations of charlatans like
you. They don't exist at all.
And I said nothing about "deliverance."
So our views are not "quite similar".
>
> There is a difference though. You are standing in our way. And we as
> goddesses and gods by the power of our Wiccan gods will also be
> standing in yours.
There is it is, the truth of the matter. The same old religious
con game.
You invent false gods and claim to have a special connection to
them that gives you unusual powers and threaten people with them.
Just like the Christian priests claiming to have a special connection
with their false god Jehovah/Yahweh and threatening people with
Hell.
Whatta joke. What a sad, sad, joke.
Any form of worship is destructive: You are giving away your
power and worth to another.
I'm not standing in your way, Ren. There's nothing there to
stand in the way of. You are just a fountain of hot air.
I'm still waiting for your dreadful magickal assault. I'm
sure BBDD is, too.
After all, we've committed the terrible crime of refusing
to believe your bullshit.
What's the problem?
Batteries in your Official Harry Potter Magic Wand die?
Sidney Lambe
> Sidney Lambe wrote:
>> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The goddess kisses you.
>>
>> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
>> sense that those words are usually meant.
>
> How are these words usually mean?
You know the answer to that question.
> And in which sense to gods and goddesses exist for you?
They don't. There isn't any such thing.
There are more 'advanced' beings, that's all. Some of
them will talk to you and some won't.
None of them can do anything for you but teach you.
>> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
>> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
>> and nothing can stand in our way.
>
> And sometimes the gods/goddesses help us, when we help ourselves or ask
> for help. And sometimes we are gods and goddesses.
No. We create our own reality. If you want to call that being
a god or goddess (although what sex has to do with this picture
I can't conceive of) then fine.
But all beings create their own reality so it's kind of silly.
>
>> All existence is blessed, so there isn't anything that
>> needs some supposed god/goddess's blessing, which would
>> be redundant.
>
> Yes, all is blessed.
> All is kissed.
And any form of worship is destructive. You should never give
your power or worth away.
Seamus
<snip>
How to Write Like A Wanker
No matter what Flash-blinded web monkeys would have us believe, the
Internet is a text-based medium: especially its major discussion forums
(IRC and Usenet) where people from all over the world can interact and
share information. A popular misconception about text messages on the
Internet is that, to be an effective communicator and earn the respect
and admiration of your peers, you must be able to write lucid prose; that
your messages, articles, posts and pages must be easy to understand and
pleasant to read.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Ignore Proper Spelling and Usage.
The English language is full of homophones, for example 'they're',
'there', and 'their': confuse them at every opportunity. "i hate my
parents there car sux0rz.." (Note also the run-on sentence, leet-speak -
0r verb form, uncapitalized 'i' and stunted, unwanted ellipsis.) While
you're at it, don't forget to make glaring, obvious spelling errors:
'reasonabel', 'buisness', and 'mesage', for instance. (Bonus wanker
points if you play the ESL card to explain your inability to operate a
simple dictionary, though this applies more to gratuitous misspellings
than---a wanker would use 'then'---misuse of homonyms.)
2. Style.
As one of my friends is fond of pointing out, a gratuitously bad command
of the English language doesn't necessarily indicate a fundamentally dumb
text. (If nothing else, a kitten walking across a keyboard may randomly
type a Zen koan.) To present yourself as a proper wanker, you'll have to
do better than sloppy spelling and atrocious grammar; you also have to
demonstrate that you genuinely have no fucking clue what you're talking
about.
Make Personal Attacks.
If people argue with you, the best way of refuting them is to call them
'fags' or 'Nazis'. ('Pedophile' is rapidly gaining popularity in this
regard, too.) Make up wild and false accusations against them: "Mike just
got out of prison for raping puppies, so he obviously isn't qualified to
have an opinion about Unreal Tournament." Ignore their argument and
attack their credibility: "Oh yeah? Why should I listen to someone who
sells heroin to kindergarteners?"
Claim False Credentials.
If you're discussing copyright law, claim to be a copyright lawyer. If
you're arguing about tobacco's effects on one's health, claim to be a
doctor. (No matter what, claim to be a s00per 31337 h4x0r d00d: that
always goes over well.) Refuse to provide any substantiating evidence,
and for bonus points, grossly misuse jargon.
Make Shit Up.
Are your arguments getting shot down because you can't back them up? No
problem: just pull some statistics out of your ass and go nuts. "Well,
the crime rate goes down by 33 to 37 percent in states with gun control,
so clearly pro-gun control people support mugging little old ladies." If
anyone ever asks you where you get your figures, make vague references to
articles, journals, or even television programs. "I read an article in
the paper a few months ago that showed the earth was only six thousand
years old because carbon-dating is bogus." When challenged, make vague
references to shadowy conspiracies hiding the truth.
Another good way to make yourself look like a total wanker is to twist
other people's positions beyond credibility. If you're arguing with a
member of the NRA, for instance, assume that they support private
ownership of main battle tanks and rebut appropriately.
Emphasize and Misinterpret Religion.
Trying to convert your audience to whatever religion (or sect) they're
not is a foolproof way of looking like a complete wanker. Be careful; if
you've had a religious upbringing, you may accidentally take a familiar,
moderate position: this is counterproductive. Insist loudly that the
Bible is the literal word of God to a community of skeptics; claim that
"deviants" are "going to Hell" on alt.sex ; whatever you do, remember
that the best way to convert the heathens is to loudly denigrate their
beliefs. Don't actually bother learning about any of the religions you
impersonate; feel free to just make shit up.
Be sure to cite the Book of 'Revelations'. That one always scores big
wanker points with any Biblical scholars who happen to be watching.
Don't forget that Wicca is synonymous with Satanism. For that matter, all
religions with no concept of "the devil" are Satan-worshipping cults.
Make Stupid Threats.
When someone takes issue with your writing, never fail to make dark
h4x0rly threats about '0wn1ng' their computer. Tell them you'll "hack
into their box", plant terrorist plans and child pornography, and tip off
the FBI. (This works especially well if they live in Europe.) Tell them
that you and "your friends" (yeah, right) will come by and "bust a cap in
[their] ass". (This works really well if you're on different continents.)
Try to avoid making truly grandiose threats, like breaking into the SAC
missile control computer (because, of course, it's gotta be connected to
the Internet) and turning their home town into a glowing glass parking
lot. People will think that you're being sarcastic, and might even
consider you witty.
Sidney, you definitely fit this. Entirely.
Also, you still fail at killfiling.
__
>Do the cyclical "september threads" count as continuous?
It's moot now. September 1993 will go down in net.history as the
September that never ended. - Dave Fischer in 1994, alt.folklore.net
The first recorded outbreak of this was Warren Burstein saying
"It's *always* September, *somewhere* on the net" in response to
a particularly Clueless outburst from Delphi.com on alt.folklore.urban,
in fall 1993. - Wendy M. Grossman, "net.wars"
sarchasm
>
"Seamus" <eatabul...@yourface.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9B771DC8...@85.214.105.209...
hy_b...@shaw.ca
> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The goddess kisses you.
>>> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
>>> sense that those words are usually meant.
>> How are these words usually mean?
>
> You know the answer to that question.
No, I don't. I don't know what other people mean when they use these terms.
I only know what I mean.
>> And in which sense to gods and goddesses exist for you?
>
> They don't. There isn't any such thing.
>
> There are more 'advanced' beings, that's all. Some of
> them will talk to you and some won't.
>
> None of them can do anything for you but teach you.
>
>>> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
>>> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
>>> and nothing can stand in our way.
>> And sometimes the gods/goddesses help us, when we help ourselves or ask
>> for help. And sometimes we are gods and goddesses.
>
> No. We create our own reality. If you want to call that being
> a god or goddess (although what sex has to do with this picture
> I can't conceive of) then fine.
>
> But all beings create their own reality so it's kind of silly.
>
>>> All existence is blessed, so there isn't anything that
>>> needs some supposed god/goddess's blessing, which would
>>> be redundant.
>> Yes, all is blessed.
>> All is kissed.
>
> And any form of worship is destructive. You should never give
> your power or worth away.
hmm.
You obviously have a different meaning for god and goddess.
BBDD
That is entirely stupid. No, at this point in time the web is not at
all text based. You are way behind the times. Even most forums have
graphics now. This is the dregs of all forum formats and one of very
few without graphics. It is one of the main reasons no one of quality
stays here ~ which is why you do. You can't compete on good forums
where one cannot bullshit. Delphi has graphics. Hell, even Widows
Messenger and Yahoo Messenger have extensive graphics. One can see
quickly who gifted participants are on forums that include graphics
and sound. There are 360 circles that have there own professional
bands that perform online. You like this format only because you can
fake being a make believe witch or wizard here. You are either lying
or stupid. Think about it. Even Windows is all about the graphics
anymore. Used to be icons and now we play movies on laptops. The
public demands it. On full format forums you would come off as awfully
grey and lifeless ~ which would indicate that all that you believe is
also grey and lifeless. That is why you are here ~ where it is grey
and lifeless.
Sidney Lambe
> Sidney Lambe wrote:
>> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>>> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The goddess kisses you.
>>>> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
>>>> sense that those words are usually meant.
>>> How are these words usually mean?
>>
>> You know the answer to that question.
>
>
> No, I don't. I don't know what other people mean when they use these terms.
>
> I only know what I mean.
Then I suggest that you start really listening to people.
Because if you don't you aren't ever going to hear anyone
but yourself.
>
>>> And in which sense to gods and goddesses exist for you?
>>
>> They don't. There isn't any such thing.
>>
>> There are more 'advanced' beings, that's all. Some of
>> them will talk to you and some won't.
>>
>> None of them can do anything for you but teach you.
>>
>>>> There aren't any superior beings that we have to ask to
>>>> create anything we really want to create. We can just do it
>>>> and nothing can stand in our way.
>>> And sometimes the gods/goddesses help us, when we help ourselves or ask
>>> for help. And sometimes we are gods and goddesses.
>>
>> No. We create our own reality. If you want to call that being
>> a god or goddess (although what sex has to do with this picture
>> I can't conceive of) then fine.
>>
>> But all beings create their own reality so it's kind of silly.
>>
>>>> All existence is blessed, so there isn't anything that
>>>> needs some supposed god/goddess's blessing, which would
>>>> be redundant.
>>> Yes, all is blessed.
>>> All is kissed.
>>
>> And any form of worship is destructive. You should never give
>> your power or worth away.
>
> hmm.
> You obviously have a different meaning for god and goddess.
The truth, young lady, is not a matter of opinion. The laws
of the universe do not change regardless of what people think.
And it doesn't care whether you like it or not.
ren
> I'm still waiting for your dreadful magickal assault. I'm
> sure BBDD is, too.
Keep waiting. I'm having dinner right now.
> After all, we've committed the terrible crime of refusing
> to believe your bullshit.
> What's the problem?
No problem now, as long as you give me real responses and not that cut
and pasted repetitive junk.
ren
If you think USENET is inferior to the web, then why don't you go back
to the web.
storm
sarchasm
>
> The truth ... is not a matter of opinion.
>
Since that is your opinion, then by your own irrationality, your statement
is untrue.
>
>The laws of the universe do not change regardless of what people think.
>
Just as sidney-kent-allan-john-etc. does not change, no matter how many
socks he goes through?
Seamus
<snip>
> That is entirely stupid. No, at this point in time the web is not at
> all text based.
"No matter what Flash-blinded web monkeys would have us believe, the
Internet is a text-based medium..."
Like many newbies, you can't seem to tell the difference between the
*Web* and the _Internet_. THus, your argument fails right at the start.
> You are way behind the times. Even most forums have
> graphics now.
And every web page in existence is written in Hyper Text Markup Language.
Try again.
> This is the dregs of all forum formats and one of very
> few without graphics. It is one of the main reasons no one of quality
> stays here ~ which is why you do. You can't compete on good forums
> where one cannot bullshit.
So you're saying that graphics equate to quality, then? It must be hard,
being so superficial. Once again the entire point goes sailing far above
your skull.
> Delphi has graphics. Hell, even Widows Messenger and Yahoo Messenger
> have extensive graphics. One can see quickly who gifted participants
> are on forums that include graphics and sound.
* Delphi spawned Eternal September - to which you happen to be
contributing. Nicely done there, Sparky.
* Graphic and sound mediums exist to keep the attention of the simple-
minded.
You fail again.
> There are 360 circles that have there own professional
> bands that perform online. You like this format only because you can
> fake being a make believe witch or wizard here. You are either lying
> or stupid. Think about it. Even Windows is all about the graphics
> anymore. Used to be icons and now we play movies on laptops. The
> public demands it. On full format forums you would come off as awfully
> grey and lifeless ~ which would indicate that all that you believe is
> also grey and lifeless. That is why you are here ~ where it is grey
> and lifeless.
A very intriguing conclusion. The only problem is that you've mised the
mark entirely.
I never claimed to be a witch or a wizard; nor will I. Point of fact, I
never claim to be anything.
The reason regulars to any newsgroup still use Usenet has nothing to do
with hiding behind a monitor (which I might add is not remedied, as you
claim, by other communications apps that have graphics and sound).
The reasons for using Usenet for most of us who remember our roots also
recall the roots of the Internet.
Each newsgroup has its own unique culture, and its own regulars. Here on
a.r.w. there are those of us that swap ideas, jokes masked as "spells",
and we come to blows pretty often when someone decides to stir the pot a
bit.
I see the exact levels of asinine stupidity exibhited on your beloved
graphical forums that I've seen in Usenet. No doubt you're a fine
example.
Thank you for proving my point, though.
hy_b...@shaw.ca
> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> Sidney Lambe wrote:
>>>>> hy_b...@shaw.ca <hy_b...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The goddess kisses you.
>>>>> There aren't any goddesses or gods. At least not in the
>>>>> sense that those words are usually meant.
>>>> How are these words usually mean?
>>> You know the answer to that question.
>>
>> No, I don't. I don't know what other people mean when they use these terms.
>>
>> I only know what I mean.
>
> Then I suggest that you start really listening to people.
> Because if you don't you aren't ever going to hear anyone
> but yourself.
I think you should take your own advice. You only know what you have
formed in your own mind and nothing more.
Sidney Lambe
No. I know that when the guy down the street says "goddess" that
he is referring to a very sexy woman. I know what you mean when
you use the word. I know that the Hindu family that runs the
restaurant a few blocks away uses the word they mean something
quite different than you do. I know that many people don't
believe there are any goddesses, only gods (meaning male).
I know that other wiccans/pagans would disagree with your
definition.
I don't believe that sex matters at all when one is referring
to advanced beings living on more complex planes. It just
isn't a part of their reality.
Sidney Lambe
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/937efafdee96fb64
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/962e0d14d4eef742
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/2667fd32fb1e6189
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/fb2c86695b925775
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/fd4ae2a7007797c1
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/17f62b2931fee8fb
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/2667fd32fb1e6189
charlatans:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/6546f5315283a741
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/481a2c3b324d9f55
There. If you don't like it you can sit on it and rotate.
Didn't anyone ever tell you that if you don't have anything
to say you should just keep your mouth shut?
Oh. Sorry. Running your mouth is all you do.
hy_b...@shaw.ca
> No. I know that when the guy down the street says "goddess" that
> he is referring to a very sexy woman. I know what you mean when
> you use the word.
I don't think you have any idea of what I mean when I wrote what I wrote
the other day about the Goddess.
You have no clue of what I meant when I used the word goddess yesterday.
Seamus
miserably at an argument:
>
> Didn't anyone ever tell you that if you don't have anything
> to say you should just keep your mouth shut?
Sound advice. Perhaps you should follow it.
> Oh. Sorry. Running your mouth is all you do.
Which of course, is something you are an expert on.