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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 3, 2009, 2:58:28 PM5/3/09
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"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
(Psalm 53:1)

Amen.

"There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool

Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement GOD arranging for us to
witness living examples of what was on King David's mind:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91ff84cf237177fc?

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks
the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke
24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus
when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

Marana tha

Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?

What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?

Fred Thomas

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May 3, 2009, 3:32:03 PM5/3/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
> their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
> (Psalm 53:1)
>
> Amen.
>
> "There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
> eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
> for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
> not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool
>

No need to hate god, it is non-existent. You will also not find anywhere via
religious text from any "god" that says you must eat only two pounds of food or
less per day, or that you must go hungry every day. So no worries, there is no
rule to abide by. The only foolish thing is the fact you took the time to come
up with your drivel.

> Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement GOD arranging for us to
> witness living examples of what was on King David's mind:
>

If king David did actually live, there would be no way you can possibly know
what is on his mind, no less witness "living" examples.

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/91ff84cf237177fc?
>
> "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>
> Amen.
>
> A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
>
> Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
> allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
>

Why would you want to worship such an evil "god".

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 3, 2009, 3:49:05 PM5/3/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?

>
> > "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
> > their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
> > (Psalm 53:1)
> >
> > Amen.
> >
> > "There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
> > GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
> > eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
> > for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
> > not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool
> >
>
> No need to hate god, it is non-existent.

You remind me of the following non-christian person.

"I don't have a dad. He abandoned me when I was a child so I hate
him." -- non-christian person

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certifed Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net

Sanity's Little Helper

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May 3, 2009, 4:13:16 PM5/3/09
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It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
> their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
> (Psalm 53:1)
>

John Day want's to see you urgently. He says he regrets being so hasty, and
you're welcome back any time.

--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
if a tree falls in the woods, what are the odds it will land in some bear
shit ?

Not authentic without this signature.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 3, 2009, 4:26:07 PM5/3/09
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satan via sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > "http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
>
> John Day want's to see you urgently. He says he regrets being so hasty, and
> you're welcome back any time.

Already been back, in the Holy Spirit:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=51936070

And, in the Holy Spirit, it remains my personal choice to continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

Sanity's Little Helper

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May 3, 2009, 4:31:13 PM5/3/09
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It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> satan via sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:


>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> "http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
>>
>> John Day want's to see you urgently. He says he regrets being so hasty, and
>> you're welcome back any time.
>
> Already been back, in the Holy Spirit:

That was in February.

Fred Thomas

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May 3, 2009, 5:02:20 PM5/3/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
>>> "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
>>> their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
>>> (Psalm 53:1)
>>>
>>> Amen.
>>>
>>> "There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
>>> eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
>>> for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
>>> not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool
>>>
>> No need to hate god, it is non-existent.
>
> You remind me of the following non-christian person.
>
> "I don't have a dad. He abandoned me when I was a child so I hate
> him." -- non-christian person
>

I know many "Christians" who are exactly as you describe. However, here this
where you go off the beaten trail and become stuck in mud..........."god" is not
a "dad", god can not deposit sperm in the woman inducing pregnancy, a human male
does. God can not provide housing, warmth, cooling, food, clothing, and anything
else a child would need. Just because a "dad" or "mom" abandons a child does not
mean the child grows to hate the dad or mom. Much of that will come from how the
mother or father teaches the child. Hate is learned, just like love.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 3, 2009, 5:11:29 PM5/3/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
> >>> "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
> >>> their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
> >>> (Psalm 53:1)
> >>>
> >>> Amen.
> >>>
> >>> "There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
> >>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
> >>> eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
> >>> for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
> >>> not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool
> >>>
> >> No need to hate god, it is non-existent.
> >
> > You remind me of the following non-christian person.
> >
> > "I don't have a dad. He abandoned me when I was a child so I hate
> > him." -- non-christian person
>
> I know many "Christians" who are exactly as you describe.

True Christians do not hate their dads but honor them in accord with
WDJW.

> However, here this
> where you go off the beaten trail and become stuck in mud..........."god" is not
> a "dad", god can not deposit sperm in the woman inducing pregnancy, a human male
> does.

GOD as the Author of all reality has made all things happen.

Moreover, through His Son, we, who are Christians (either Jew or
gentile), have become His adopted children (John 3:16).

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://WDJW.net

Fred Thomas

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May 3, 2009, 5:22:51 PM5/3/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
>>>>> "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
>>>>> their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
>>>>> (Psalm 53:1)
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen.
>>>>>
>>>>> "There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
>>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
>>>>> eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
>>>>> for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
>>>>> not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool
>>>>>
>>>> No need to hate god, it is non-existent.
>>> You remind me of the following non-christian person.
>>>
>>> "I don't have a dad. He abandoned me when I was a child so I hate
>>> him." -- non-christian person
>> I know many "Christians" who are exactly as you describe.
>
> True Christians do not hate their dads but honor them in accord with
> WDJW.
>

Truth is simple........You have reading a comprehension problem.


>> However, here this
>> where you go off the beaten trail and become stuck in mud..........."god" is not
>> a "dad", god can not deposit sperm in the woman inducing pregnancy, a human male
>> does.
>
> GOD as the Author of all reality has made all things happen.
>

"God" has made nothing happen.

fasgnadh

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May 3, 2009, 7:03:07 PM5/3/09
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In article
<602a3a1a-5220-4402...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

a lot of folish quotes from the book of fools.

fasgnadh

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May 3, 2009, 7:04:34 PM5/3/09
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In article
<15f7a357-7498-44d7...@s21g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


>
> You remind me of the following non-christian person.
>
> "I don't have a dad. He abandoned me when I was a child so I hate
> him." -- non-christian person

If therewere a god, she would be a mother, not a father.

fasgnadh

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In article
<8ba33994-93b4-462e...@l28g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
satan via sockpuppet (corporeal demon)"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<hat...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> despairingly posted
his futility.

fasgnadh

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May 3, 2009, 7:07:27 PM5/3/09
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In article
<5eb7a531-09bd-4ddf...@l28g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:


>
> True Christians do not hate

But Chung hares those who do not bow down to him.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 3, 2009, 8:49:56 PM5/3/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Fred Thomas wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no GOD.' They are corrupt, and
> >>>>> their ways are vile; there is no one who does good." -- King David
> >>>>> (Psalm 53:1)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "There must be a way for me to eat more and still lose weight. I hate
> >>>>> GOD's 2PD-OMER Approach because it makes me hungrier and keeps me from
> >>>>> eating more, which is what I want along with losing weight. I hate GOD
> >>>>> for not allowing me to have what I want. Maybe if I pretend GOD does
> >>>>> not exist, I can get away from abiding by His rules. " -- fool
> >>>>>
> >>>> No need to hate god, it is non-existent.
> >>>
> >>> You remind me of the following non-christian person.
> >>>
> >>> "I don't have a dad. He abandoned me when I was a child so I hate
> >>> him." -- non-christian person
> >>
> >> I know many "Christians" who are exactly as you describe.
> >
> > True Christians do not hate their dads but honor them in accord with
> > WDJW.
>
> Truth is simple........

It is.

> You have reading a comprehension problem.

Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Truth is simple.

Fred Thomas

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May 3, 2009, 8:52:42 PM5/3/09
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It is, you are not bright.


>> You have reading a comprehension problem.
>
> Without the LORD, your fantasies are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>


I'm not the one with fantasies, your not taking your meds are you?

fasgnadh

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In article
<6084fe35-d75a-4c55...@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lo...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> Without the LORD, Chung is meaningless.

Which is convincing evidence of no LORD.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Glad you agree :-)

Fred Thomas

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May 4, 2009, 6:30:44 AM5/4/09
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There's Andy being dishonest again. Lets put back in what you cut out.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?

<><

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sanity's Little Helper

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It is an ancient "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>, and he
posteth:

> "The fool says in his heart, "I'm half fruit, and half custard".

A lot like Andy, except without the nuts.

anon...@nowhere.you.know

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May 4, 2009, 1:42:49 PM5/4/09
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Truth:

The two pound diet,aka 2pd etc. is quack science. It has flaws of both
fact and logic. It was invented to fit a preexisting agenda and does
not flow from evidence based on research. The diet inventor has many
times been appraised of his flaws but clings to them for reasons other
then science or valid medical practice


All of this nonsense of measure by weight or volume comes from the
agenda fitting, not well established research. But sadly even the
agenda is based on misunderstood and misapplied information. Even when
corrected the author of the agenda for nothing but pride and vain face
saving can not deal with that truth.

Bottom line, ignore any reference to the two pound diet,aka 2 pd etc.
and stick with established information and sources of expert authorities
which does not include the vanity of vanity distorting reality in this
case.

God bless.

Fred Thomas

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May 4, 2009, 4:15:56 PM5/4/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
>
> <><
>
> "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>

So your decision to lie is from your god.

> Amen.
>
> A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
>
> Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
> allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
>

The decision to lie came from god and then god allowed you to lie.

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
>
> Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic at any time:
>

Man can control it.

> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
>
> What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
> catastrophic Pan-Flu:
>

More people die each year from common flu than the swine or bird flu combined.


> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
>
> How to not be fearful:
>

I'm not fearful.

> Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
>

Believe the myth, yea right!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 5, 2009, 3:27:35 AM5/5/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
> >
> > <><
> >
> > "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
> > LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

> So your decision to lie is from your god.

As oft written, it remains my personal choice to continue writing
truthfully.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Fred Thomas

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May 5, 2009, 5:11:06 AM5/5/09
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/518c33efe51560d7?
>>>
>>> <><
>>>
>>> "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
>>> LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
>
> Amen.
>
>> So your decision to lie is from your god.
>
> As oft written, it remains my personal choice to continue writing
> truthfully.
>

What is it Andy, god directs you to lie, or you do it on your own? See, your not
writing truthfully. BTW, your not discerning. So tell me now. If your preteen
child were having sex would you tolerate it?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 5, 2009, 5:47:56 AM5/5/09
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8f5c91089c1cc340?

"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)

Amen.

A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?

Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?

Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any
time:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?

What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU

How to not be fearful:

Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!

http://T3WiJ.com

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a


blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?

Hunger is wonderful ! ! !

It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):

http://WDJW.net

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?

Hunger is the physical "hearts burning" feeling that unlocks the 4


mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke 24:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154?

Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897?

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?

Jesus is LORD, forever !!!

http://JiL4ever.net

Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Human Geneticist and Molecular Biologist
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17?

Fred Thomas

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What is it Andy, god directs you to lie, or you do it on your own? See, your not
writing truthfully. BTW, your not discerning. So tell me now. If your preteen
child were having sex would you tolerate it? By your avoiding the question I can
only surmise that you do tolerate your preteen child having sex, and that maybe
you are actually pimping the child.

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Fred Thomas

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dolf

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Isn't Fred Thomas impersonating a dead person?

That individuals advancing religious belief in the notion of Daystar,
ought to differentiate such belief from fascism.

dolf wrote:
> That the notion of Daystar has no religious basis in the life of this
country and certainly no grounds to assert itself organizationally by
membership of the Returned Service League to claim this as religious
identity above any claim to Christian identity which they might
otherwise express.
>
> dolf wrote:
>> But whether this extends to the club known as the Returned Services
League enforcing their religious observance on ANZAC DAY and whether
those organizational rules do not invalidate and disrespect the
autonomic right under the Commonwealth.
>>
>> The British before its military action as discovery by Captain Cook,
and according to some autonomic and sovereign Principle have made
desperate claim to Christian Identity following sighting of the transit
of Venus across the sun as disproving the Pythagorean basis to Christian
identity by marriage.
>>
>> - dolf
>>
>> Mister Daystar <zevill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On May 2, 3:52 am, Christian Graus <cgr...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Only in the sense of defining what is good. In the same way that the
>>>> cricket club defines who is not in the club, by virtue of defining who
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>
>>> you an ass for even bringing up that word. if you are discerning
>>> you'll stop it.
>>>

dolf

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Isn't Fred Thomas impersonating a dead person?

dolf wrote:
> That individuals advancing religious belief in the notion of Daystar,
ought to differentiate such belief from fascism.
>

Daystar or Morning Star may refer to:

The planet Venus, when in the East
Eosphoros, the "dawn-bearer" in Greek mythology
The Morning Star. Lucifer the light bringer, Archangel of light, alias Satan
Morning star (weapon), a spiked mace
Morning Star (chief), a Cheyenne leader, also known as Dull Knife
Morning Star flag, the national flag of West Papua
The Morning Star, a national daily newspaper in the U.K.
The Morning Star (Vernon), a daily newspaper in Vernon, British Columbia
The Morning Star (19th century U.S. newspaper), a defunct New Hampshire
newspaper
The Morning Star (19th century U.K. newspaper), a defunct London newspaper
Morningstar commune, a commune formed in the San Francisco area in the
mid-1960s
Morning Star river, which flows through the town of Bruff in Ireland
Morning Star (cannabis), a strain of Cannabis sativa
Magic City Morning Star, an on-line newspaper from Katahdin, Maine
Morning Star Middle School, a school located in Mississauga

Thommadura

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dolf wrote:
> Isn't Fred Thomas impersonating a dead person?
>


And Dolf is advocating one that never lived!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 5, 2009, 5:55:19 PM5/5/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>
> > It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully.

>
>What is it Andy, god directs you to lie, or you do it on your own?

Neither.

> See, your not writing truthfully.

You remind me of the blind man who is feigning vision among the
seeing...

> BTW, your not discerning.

... by telling them they are blind.

> So tell me now. If your preteen
> child were having sex would you tolerate it?

GOD has used me to teach Our child that having sex outside of marriage
is wrong and that GOD wants her to be right by thinking and doing only
that which is right.

Because of what Jesus did for those of us, who are Christians (either
Jew or gentile), we are forgiven of our past, present, and future
wrongs:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

Therefore, we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), are made
able by GOD to love and tolerate everyone (especially our children)
despite their wrongs.

Truth is simple :-)

http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor

http://EmoryCardiology.com

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>
>>> It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully.
>> What is it Andy, god directs you to lie, or you do it on your own?
>
> Neither.
>

So you pathological, you can not help it?


>> See, your not writing truthfully.
>
> You remind me of the blind man who is feigning vision among the
> seeing...
>

LOL! Your still not writing truthfully.


>> BTW, your not discerning.
>
> ... by telling them they are blind.
>

Does not make you discerning.

>> So tell me now. If your preteen
>> child were having sex would you tolerate it?
>

YES or NO? Quit dodging the question.


> GOD has used me to teach Our child that having sex outside of marriage
> is wrong and that GOD wants her to be right by thinking and doing only
> that which is right.
>

That did not answer the question. Would YOU tolerate your preteen child having
sex? Yes or no.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Fred Thomas wrote:

>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>>
>>>> It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully.
>>>
>>> What is it Andy, god directs you to lie, or you do it on your own?
>>
>> Neither.
>
>So you pathological, you can not help it?

Incorrect.

See above.

>>> See, your not writing truthfully.
>>
>> You remind me of the blind man who is feigning vision among the
>> seeing...
>>
>
>LOL!

"Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit.

Amen.

> Your still not writing truthfully.

Non-christians like you don't know the truth.

"What is truth?" -- rhetorical question by a non-christian (Governor
Pontius Pilate)

>>> BTW, your not discerning.
>>
>> ... by telling them they are blind.
>
>Does not make you discerning.

The Holy Spirit, Who helps me publicly say "Jesus is LORD" also makes
me discerning.

>>> So tell me now. If your preteen
>>> child were having sex would you tolerate it?
>
> YES or NO?

"Yes" is the logically correct answer to your question.

Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
stop doing wrong:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven

Truth is simple:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John
14:6)

Amen.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Author of "Be Hungry"
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook
"How to physically recognize Jesus when He returns."

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote in part:
>>>>
>>>>> It remains my personal choice to continue writing truthfully.
>>>> What is it Andy, god directs you to lie, or you do it on your own?
>>> Neither.
>> So you pathological, you can not help it?
>
> Incorrect.
>

So you lie by you own volition.

> See above.
>
>>>> See, your not writing truthfully.
>>> You remind me of the blind man who is feigning vision among the
>>> seeing...
>>>
>> LOL!
>
> "Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit.
>

Written laughter shows I'm amused at you.


> Amen.
>
>> Your still not writing truthfully.
>
> Non-christians like you don't know the truth.
>

People like you do not know the truth.


> "What is truth?" -- rhetorical question by a non-christian (Governor
> Pontius Pilate)
>
>>>> BTW, your not discerning.
>>> ... by telling them they are blind.
>> Does not make you discerning.
>
> The Holy Spirit, Who helps me publicly say "Jesus is LORD" also makes
> me discerning.
>

News flash......there is no holy spirit.

>>>> So tell me now. If your preteen
>>>> child were having sex would you tolerate it?
>> YES or NO?
>
> "Yes" is the logically correct answer to your question.
>

So your that sick, I'm correct. You would tolerate your preteen child having sex!


> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
> stop doing wrong:
>

Again you have a comprehension problem. I made no question on tolerating the
child, do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
> stop doing wrong:
>

And if she does not?

MM

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On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:05:40 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article <6ng1059luf4ec1aar...@4ax.com>):

> "Written laughter is silent despair." -- Holy Spirit.

Strictly laughter is a sound not something written ..... unless a statement
that "you said" can be written too.

MM

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On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:36:11 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
(in article <gtqihg$mle$1...@news.motzarella.org>):

>>> So you pathological, you can not help it?
>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>
> So you lie by you own volition.

Some lie so much that they are not aware that it is a lie ...... of course,
in usenet, some trolls use lying a tool to promote trolling as others use
insults as a troll

dolf

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I have provided all the proof necessary at the following URL:

- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

You are aware of that as you are of this one, having addressed a copy
directly to you.

I do not have to belie belief like you do.

Fred Thomas

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ROTFL!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Fred Thomas wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
> > stop doing wrong:
>
> And if she does not?

She would no longer have GOD's favor:

"... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
Jesus Christ

Amen.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?

MM

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On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:06:43 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
(in article <gtqrbl$pp4$1...@news.motzarella.org>):

>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:

>>

>> May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
>> truth, Who is Jesus:

> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?

Might depend if God softened whatever body part of hers which would be
appropriate for her action for which she lost God's favor.

Fred Thomas

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First off thats bull shit, deep inside you know that. Second, it appears as if
you have as little comprehension as Andy, being that it appears you have little
understanding of the topic, it would seem be best if you bowed out.

MM

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On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:51:26 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
(in article <gtqtvi$db8$1...@news.motzarella.org>):

I've got this great deal on a bridge for you ..... hurry, this opportunity
will not last long.

Fred Thomas

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MM wrote:
> On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:51:26 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
> (in article <gtqtvi$db8$1...@news.motzarella.org>):
>
>> MM wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:06:43 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
>>> (in article <gtqrbl$pp4$1...@news.motzarella.org>):
>>>
>>>>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:
>>>>> May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
>>>>> truth, Who is Jesus:
>>>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>>> Might depend if God softened whatever body part of hers which would be
>>> appropriate for her action for which she lost God's favor.
>>>
>> First off thats bull shit, deep inside you know that. Second, it appears as
>> if
>> you have as little comprehension as Andy, being that it appears you have
>> little
>> understanding of the topic, it would seem be best if you bowed out.
>
> I've got this great deal on a bridge for you ..... hurry, this opportunity
> will not last long.
>
Ohhhhhh, how original! A lot like your myth beliefs.

MM

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On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:12:49 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
(in article <gtqv7j$ln4$1...@news.motzarella.org>):

If you do not understand the sarcasm of my comment, especially to what body
part I was referring, I will not try to explain it to you.

Fred Thomas

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There is no point in trying to tie in your comment, you can not make it fit.

MM

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On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:51:32 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
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There is no point in my trying to further explain it to you

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Fred Thomas wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
> >>> stop doing wrong:
> >>
> >> And if she does not?
> >
> > She would no longer have GOD's favor:
> >
> > "... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
> > Jesus Christ
> >
> > Amen.
>
> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?

Would accept the fact that GOD allowed something to happen that I did
not want.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com
"How to recognize Jesus when He returns."

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
>>>>> stop doing wrong:
>>>> And if she does not?
>>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:
>>>
>>> "... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
>>> Jesus Christ
>>>
>>> Amen.
>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>
> Would accept the fact that GOD allowed something to happen that I did
> not want.
>
Which means your OK with YOUR preteen child having sex. Your bible says other wise.

Truth is simple, your not very bright.

Your god did not allow anything. If the situation were real, it would mean YOU
as a parent failed.

Thommadura

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Laughing with me at your god I see!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
>>>>>> stop doing wrong:
>>>>>
>>>>> And if she does not?
>>>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:
>>>>
>>>> "... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
>>>> Jesus Christ
>>>>
>>>> Amen.
>>>
>>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>>
>> Would accept the fact that GOD allowed something to happen that I did
>> not want.
>>
> Which means your OK with YOUR preteen child having sex.

No. This simply means that I do not want anyone to have premarital
sex.

> Your bible says other wise.

Incorrect

It is written in the Bible that sex outside of marriage is wrong.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"Don't be like Cleopus and Simon."

tr...@finder.com

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Schizophrenia - Symptoms, Diagnosis, Treatment of Schizophrenia

http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/schizophrenia/overview

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Fred Thomas wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
>>>>>>> stop doing wrong:
>>>>>> And if she does not?
>>>>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:
>>>>>
>>>>> "... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
>>>>> Jesus Christ
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen.
>>>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>>> Would accept the fact that GOD allowed something to happen that I did
>>> not want.
>>>
>> Which means your OK with YOUR preteen child having sex.
>
> No. This simply means that I do not want anyone to have premarital
> sex.
>

Which means that you do not want your preteen child to have sex, but you
tolerate it.

>> Your bible says other wise.
>
> Incorrect
>
> It is written in the Bible that sex outside of marriage is wrong.
>

And that the punishment is????????

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 6, 2009, 4:21:06 PM5/6/09
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Fred Thomas wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>> Fred Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would tolerate the child by forgiving her while admonishing her to
>>>>>>>> stop doing wrong:
>>>>>>> And if she does not?
>>>>>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
>>>>>> Jesus Christ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amen.
>>>>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>>>> Would accept the fact that GOD allowed something to happen that I did
>>>> not want.
>>>>
>>> Which means your OK with YOUR preteen child having sex.
>>
>> No. This simply means that I do not want anyone to have premarital
>> sex.
>
>Which means that you do not want your preteen child to have sex, but you
>tolerate it.

Incorrect.

It has not happened.

GOD remains the Author of all reality.

Laus Deo:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

>>> Your bible says other wise.
>>
>> Incorrect
>>
>> It is written in the Bible that sex outside of marriage is wrong.
>
>And that the punishment is????????

The same as thinking about it.

"If you look at a woman lustfully, you have committed adultery with
her in your heart." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"Don't be left behind like Cleopus and Simon were."

Fred Thomas

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You would tolerate it because you said god allowed it. That would mean that if
god allows it, it's not wrong no matter if you like it or not.


> GOD remains the Author of all reality.
>
> Laus Deo:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo
>
>>>> Your bible says other wise.
>>> Incorrect
>>>
>>> It is written in the Bible that sex outside of marriage is wrong.
>> And that the punishment is????????
>
> The same as thinking about it.
>
> "If you look at a woman lustfully, you have committed adultery with
> her in your heart." -- LORD Jesus Christ
>

You dodged the question. You must not know your bible very well.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 6, 2009, 9:01:40 PM5/6/09
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GOD has not allowed it.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"How GOD inspired the 2PD-OMER Approach."

Fred Thomas

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**********************************************************************************
Busted.

>>> "... now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD
>>> Jesus Christ
>>>
>>> Amen.
>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>
> Would accept the fact that GOD allowed something to happen that I did
> not want.
>

> Truth is simple.
********************************************************************************

As long as it's in your mind that your god would allow something even though you
do not like it, such as your preteen child having sex, you would tolerate the
activity.

Logically, it does not work Andy.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Fred Thomas

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Yes Andy the truth is simple, your not very bright.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dan Listermann

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:d32abe88-bca8-4f73...@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com...Yea, bronze age goat herders were very short on it.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Dan Listermann wrote:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
>>
>> Truth is simple :-)
>>
>Yea, bronze age goat herders were very short on it.

Non sequitur

In the Holy Spirit, King David was truthful.

Sadly, the same cannot be truthfully written about you.

For one thing, King David clearly was not a goat herder.

Bottom line concerning you and other non-christians:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the

Dan Listermann

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:u3h60593diksaniq8...@4ax.com...

> Dan Listermann wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8e77f49aa61098a0?
>>>
>>> Truth is simple :-)
>>>
>>Yea, bronze age goat herders were very short on it.
>
> Non sequitur
>
> In the Holy Spirit, King David was truthful.

So you claim, nothing more.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 7, 2009, 5:16:46 PM5/7/09
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Dan Listermann wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?

>
>So you claim, nothing more.

Incorrect.

This is simply reality as GOD has created it.

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

"Only GOD can heal the delusion that 'hunger is starvation.'"

Atheno

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May 7, 2009, 5:24:11 PM5/7/09
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On Thu, 7 May 2009 16:08:11 -0500, Dan Listermann wrote
(in article <d2137$4a034db6$4a53bf9f$22...@FUSE.NET>):

Yes, seems we have a lot of "gold miners" all filing (posting) claims. So
far no evidence of any "gold."

Atheno

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May 7, 2009, 5:26:28 PM5/7/09
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On Thu, 7 May 2009 16:16:46 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article <5nj605tgme6h0s3tc...@4ax.com>):

> Incorrect.
>
> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.
>
> Truth is simple :-)
>
> May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
> truth, Who is Jesus:

There does seem to be a few, including you Chung, who like to the post the
same thing over and over again in response to anything.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 8, 2009, 5:02:33 AM5/8/09
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Atheno wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/eaa4e680618e184c?

>
> There does seem to be a few, including you Chung, who like to the post the
> same thing over and over again in response to anything.

It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of
the Holy Spirit in everything said, done, and written.

Truth is simple.

May GOD soften your heart, Atheno, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor
http://NetCabal.com

Dan Listermann

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May 8, 2009, 9:54:01 AM5/8/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:5nj605tgme6h0s3tc...@4ax.com...

> Dan Listermann wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?
>>
>>So you claim, nothing more.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.

And you can only support your assertion by stupid fiat. You, sir, are
"incorrect."


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 8, 2009, 12:01:37 PM5/8/09
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Dan Listermann wrote:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> Dan Listermann wrote:
>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?
>>>
>>>So you claim, nothing more.
>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.
>
>And you can only support your assertion by stupid fiat.

Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Atheno

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May 8, 2009, 12:13:26 PM5/8/09
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Brook Chung babbled

> Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.

I guess people can do what you do. Make up your own "truth"

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 8, 2009, 12:31:34 PM5/8/09
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Atheno wrote:
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/af4fc579a3242a24?

>
>I guess people can do what you do.

Only with GOD's help:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BottomLine

> Make up your own "truth"

It is the truth, Who has created me and not the other way around.

Indeed, HE has even brought me back from the dead:

http://NetCabal.com

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Atheno, so that you would trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeHungryBook

Atheno

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May 8, 2009, 12:36:54 PM5/8/09
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On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:31:34 -0500, Brook Chung, MD/PhD wrote


>
> babble babble babble babble ....... babble babble babble .....
>


Dan Listermann

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May 8, 2009, 1:08:04 PM5/8/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:kml805laeto13fav2...@4ax.com...

> Dan Listermann wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Dan Listermann wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?
>>>>
>>>>So you claim, nothing more.
>>>
>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.
>>
>>And you can only support your assertion by stupid fiat.
>
> Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.

Fiat "Truth" is stupid.


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 8, 2009, 1:30:26 PM5/8/09
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Dan Listermann wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Dan Listermann wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Dan Listermann wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?
> >>>>
> >>>>So you claim, nothing more.
> >>>
> >>> Incorrect.
> >>>
> >>> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.
> >>
> >>And you can only support your assertion by stupid fiat.
> >
> > Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.
>
> Fiat "Truth" is stupid.

Not for the discerning.

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Author of "Be Hungry"
http://NetCabal.com

Only GOD can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/d01915cc6cd0e47e?

Atheno

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May 8, 2009, 1:44:02 PM5/8/09
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On Fri, 8 May 2009 12:30:26 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article
<7f22c836-ece9-43cc...@o27g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>):

> Not for the discerning.

Not a good reason for everyone who disagrees or questions you.

Just more of the same babbling from Brook Chung.

MM

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May 8, 2009, 5:32:43 PM5/8/09
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On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:01:37 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
(in article <kml805laeto13fav2...@4ax.com>):

> Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.

Radical islamic terrorists view that the truth is that God wants them to
kill infidels who do not convert to Islam. I find their truth offensive.

There are many people all claiming their truth is the only real truth and all
the others are wrong.

So far no one has given any real convincing argument or proof that their
truth is the only real truth.


MM

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May 8, 2009, 5:38:54 PM5/8/09
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On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:13:26 -0500, Atheno wrote
(in article <0001HW.C629C456...@news.x-privat.org>):

> Brook Chung babbled
>
>> Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.
>
> I guess people can do what you do. Make up your own "truth"
>

If you study religions and faiths in the world, there are some similarities
and some differences. One view is that If a God does exist, then either one
faith/religion has to be right and the rest wrong, or maybe they are all
correct. Certainly a God, if he exists, can be the creator of everything,
including even different beliefs. Certainly a God could do that and as
people are different, so can their beliefs be different.

I would imagine Chung will not accept and/or understand this and will get
more of the same response.

ThomM

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May 8, 2009, 6:22:30 PM5/8/09
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Truth remains easy to define - and impossible for religion to produce.

Real truth is something that can be proven and verified by ANYONE
regardless of their beliefs.

IF something is true - a christian and a muslim - and an agnostic -
and an atheist would ALL arrive at the same FACT.

THe FACT is - all religion is belief - and none of it can be
established as truth.

ThomM

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May 8, 2009, 6:23:59 PM5/8/09
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On May 8, 5:32 pm, MM <mortonmull...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009 11:01:37 -0500, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
> (in article <kml805laeto13fav235omnl0iablab2...@4ax.com>):

>
> > Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.
>
> Radical islamic terrorists view that  the truth  is that God wants them to
> kill infidels who do not convert to Islam.  I find their truth offensive.
>
> There are many people all claiming their truth is the only real truth and all
> the others are wrong.  
>
> So far no one has given any real convincing argument or proof that their
> truth is the only real truth.

Sorry - but if truth cannot be established regardless of belief - it
is not truth.

THe truth only depends on fact that can be tested and verified.
Religion have beliefs - but NO truths

Dan Listermann

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May 8, 2009, 7:54:59 PM5/8/09
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <disc...@T3WIJ.com> wrote in message
news:kml805laeto13fav2...@4ax.com...

> Dan Listermann wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> Dan Listermann wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?
>>>>
>>>>So you claim, nothing more.
>>>
>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.
>>
>>And you can only support your assertion by stupid fiat.
>
> Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.

Your mythological "Truth" is offensive only because those like you actually
claim to believe it. Otherwise it would just be fun reading!


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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May 8, 2009, 8:08:59 PM5/8/09
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Dan Listermann wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > Dan Listermann wrote:
> >>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>> Dan Listermann wrote:
> >>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8543e4e34f191588?
> >>>>
> >>>>So you claim, nothing more.
> >>>
> >>> Incorrect.
> >>>
> >>> This is simply reality as GOD has created it.
> >>
> >>And you can only support your assertion by stupid fiat.
> >
> > Sad to witness that you find truth offensive.
>
> Your mythological "Truth" is offensive only because those like you actually
> claim to believe it.

As if the logical true state (logical 1) were mythological.

It is not by chance but by GOD (Proverbs 16:33) that the truth reigns
even in the digital realm of ones and zeros.

Truth is simple :-)

May GOD soften your heart, Dan, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:

http://T3WiJ.com

Amen.

Love in the truth,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

Board-certified Heart Doctor

MU

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May 9, 2009, 11:04:31 AM5/9/09
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On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:43:28 -0500, MM wrote:

> Some lie so much that they are not aware that it is a lie ...... of course,
> in usenet, some trolls use lying a tool to promote trolling as others use
> insults as a troll

You're drinking again, aren't you?

MU

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May 9, 2009, 11:05:51 AM5/9/09
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On Tue, 5 May 2009 23:23:46 -0500, MM wrote:

> On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:51:32 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
> (in article <gtr1g5$3o8$1...@news.motzarella.org>):
>
>> MM wrote:
>>> On Tue, 5 May 2009 22:12:49 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
>>> (in article <gtqv7j$ln4$1...@news.motzarella.org>):
>>>
>>>> MM wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:51:26 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
>>>>> (in article <gtqtvi$db8$1...@news.motzarella.org>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> MM wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2009 21:06:43 -0500, Fred Thomas wrote
>>>>>>> (in article <gtqrbl$pp4$1...@news.motzarella.org>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She would no longer have GOD's favor:
>>>>>>>>> May GOD soften your heart, Fred, so that you would come to trust the
>>>>>>>>> truth, Who is Jesus:
>>>>>>>> So the question is......Do you tolerate the child's actions, YES or NO?
>>>>>>> Might depend if God softened whatever body part of hers which would be
>>>>>>> appropriate for her action for which she lost God's favor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> First off thats bull shit, deep inside you know that. Second, it appears
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you have as little comprehension as Andy, being that it appears you have
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> understanding of the topic, it would seem be best if you bowed out.
>>>>> I've got this great deal on a bridge for you ..... hurry, this
>>>>> opportunity
>>>>> will not last long.
>>>>>
>>>> Ohhhhhh, how original! A lot like your myth beliefs.
>>>
>>> If you do not understand the sarcasm of my comment, especially to what body
>>> part I was referring, I will not try to explain it to you.
>>>
>> There is no point in trying to tie in your comment, you can not make it fit.
>
> There is no point in my trying to further explain it to you

Works for me. So, are you shutting up permanently or just until you
morph into another one of your sock puppet outfits? lol

MU

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May 9, 2009, 11:10:38 AM5/9/09
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On Fri, 8 May 2009 16:38:54 -0500, MM wrote:

> If you study religions and faiths in the world,

Which you haven't but go on, don't let me get in your way of making an
ass out of yourself....again.

> there are some similarities
> and some differences.

Nah! Really?

> One view is that If a God does exist, then either one
> faith/religion has to be right and the rest wrong, or maybe they are all
> correct.

Or maybe they are all right or maybe the Muun is made of cheese or maybe
Opey hated Andy and caught Miss Bee in bed with a lizard....

>Certainly a God, if he exists, can be the creator of everything,

What if He doesn't exist, can he create a whole family of black-toothed
imbeciles. I only ask from your personal experiences but go on...



> including even different beliefs. Certainly a God could do that and as
> people are different, so can their beliefs be different.

You sir, are a walking encyclopedia....of crap.

MU

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May 9, 2009, 11:12:31 AM5/9/09
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On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:41:14 -0500, MM wrote:

> Strictly laughter is a sound not something written ..... unless a statement
> that "you said" can be written too.

Toke, toke, toke that crack pipe,
For yourself have it all,
Toke toke toke that crack pipe,
Keep on smokin' those balls.

Carl

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May 9, 2009, 6:32:05 PM5/9/09
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"dolf" <dolf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have provided all the proof necessary at the following URL:

Actually you have neither proved nor disproved anything other than proving
that you present nonsensical, incoherent ramblings complete with
frabrication mumbo-jumbo which you consider scientific when it's actually
nothing of substance. You truly are off the deep end and need professional
psychiatric counseling.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/


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