Old fart honey question

[Steve B]

My wife has some honey that her mom put up about ten to fifteen years ago.
Some have comb in it. It had started to crystallize. We put it in hot
water for a time, and the crystals disappeared. Now, the comb has melted.
How do we separate the wax from the honey?

I figured there were enough old people here to find someone who knew this.
The foodie newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly unless you are a
member of the ruling cabal.

Steve

[Phil Kangas]

"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

http://www.benefits-of-honey.com/honey-storage.html
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[Larry Jaques]

On Tue, 1 Jan 2013 22:28:34 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
<pka...@upalphacomm.net> wrote:

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>"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> My wife has some honey that her mom put up about
>> ten to fifteen years ago. Some have comb in it.
>> It had started to crystallize. We put it in hot
>> water for a time, and the crystals disappeared.
>> Now, the comb has melted. How do we separate the
>> wax from the honey?

Cool it again and drain the honey from the wax?
I doubt it would hurt you to ingest it, though.

>> I figured there were enough old people here to
>> find someone who knew this. The foodie
>> newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly
>> unless you are a member of the ruling cabal.
>>
>> Steve
>
>http://www.benefits-of-honey.com/honey-storage.html
>>
>>
>
>

--
You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore
the consequences of ignoring reality.
--Ayn Rand

[Cross-Slide]

Many people eat the whole honey comb for the health benefits.
They pay extra for the honey comb which is normally has the wax separated for sale as wax.

You are lucky...

[Steve B]

"Cross-Slide" <3t...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:d1d5ca28-77f5-4a15...@googlegroups.com...

Uh, it is impossible to get the crystallized honey out of the jar and the
combs. Any ideas?

Steve

[Cross-Slide]

On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 10:43:14 AM UTC-6, Steve B wrote:
> "Cross-Slide" <> wrote in message

Once it is warm enough, the crystallized honey Will melt.
If you do not get it ALL melted, the crystals will start re-form starting from the remaining crystal "seeds"
It is a supersaturated/highly saturated sugar solution, so it is trying to grow crystals, all it needs are "seeds" which the un-melted crystals will provide.

If it is hot enough to melt, the crystals Will melt..

It's delicious!

[Gunner]

Put it in a pot of boiling water. When it all melts..pour it out.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

My gawd you are stupid.

[Ignoramus24272]

plonk

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:26:22 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
<precisionm...@notmail.com> wrote:

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>"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

>> The foodie newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly unless you are
>> a member of the ruling cabal.
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>My gawd you are stupid.

They're born stupid and they live stupid lives. And then when they're
retired and have the time and the technology to finally learn
something, they use it instead to get stupider. At least worldnutdaily
etc. are grateful for their support.

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 1:34 pm, whoyakidding's ghost <whoyakidd...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:26:22 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
>

> <precisionmachinist...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> The foodie newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly unless you are
> >> a member of the ruling cabal.
>
> >My gawd you are stupid.
>
> They're born stupid and they live stupid lives. And then when they're
> retired and have the time and the technology to finally learn
> something, they use it instead to get stupider. At least worldnutdaily
> etc. are grateful for their support.

Gunner has a huge fan club made up of stupid people who can't help
themselves when it comes to machining or rational thinking. It's very
cult like.

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 1:05 pm, Ignoramus24272 <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.
24272.invalid> wrote:
> plonk

Hey Iggy can you plonk me as well because I think you're a clueless
idiot when it comes to machining and always will be because of your
approach. I know it's wrong but every time I see your last name I'm
reminded of this scene from The Green Hornet movie. The movie pretty
much sucked ass except for this scene:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/68107120bc/the-green-hornet-scene-with-james-franco-and-christoph-waltz

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"whoyakidding's ghost" <whoyak...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6o99e85n3mv6tn7m5...@4ax.com...

It takes all of about 30 seconds worth of googling to find out how to render wax out of honey by heating it and then letting it cool back down and then removing the wax that has floated to the top and solidified.

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[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 2:32 pm, "PrecisionmachinisT" <123machin...@notmail.com>
wrote:
> "whoyakidding's ghost" <whoyakidd...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:6o99e85n3mv6tn7m5...@4ax.com...

That's about 29 seconds too much for the cult of Gunner.

They need to be spoon fed everything and preferably by their cult
leader.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"Ignoramus24272" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in message news:Ro-dndMBCP2bPHnN...@giganews.com...
> plonk
>

Your loss...

Considering that you're also seemingly incapable of tying your fucking shoelaces without asking a bunch of stupid-assed-off-topic questions on a metalworking news group.

[whoyakidding's ghost]

Yeah but I thought it was even stupider that SteveB pretended that he
needed to bring his question here due to his fear that foodies would
be mean to him. The fact is that SteveB is raving racist who bungled
posting behind a different nym, and I've given him a rough ride for
it.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/5ddfa88c79b502dc
He'd have had zero chance of that being brought up again if he'd asked
his question of the foodies. But I suppose he didn't think that far
ahead, and even if he did he'd have no fear of the ghost of someone
who was culled last year. :)

By the way, I LOVE catching people as mindlessly moronic as SteveB
claiming that Obama has a small brain. What could be funnier.

[John B.]

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:26:22 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
<precisionm...@notmail.com> wrote:

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So tell us how to separate the honey from the comb. You being such a
brilliant sort of bloke.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[goodsoldi...@gmail.com]

Ah well. When I see your posts it comes to mind that you really aren't
a metal worker, you are just another computer programmer and about as
skilled as the "cobel coders" of yesteryear.

[John B.]

And considering that you have never provided any evidence of any
knowledge of metalworking while Iggy is smart enough to ask
questions...

plonk!
--
Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

Thus speaks the computer coder :-(
--
Cheers,

John B.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"John B." <johnbs...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0jl9e8tu38jjk3ab7...@4ax.com...

Google it yourself, you fucking imbecile.

--

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"John B." <johnbs...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:orl9e811u87sireqn...@4ax.com...

Peek a booo !!!

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 4:59 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:40:25 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
>

> <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:
> >"Ignoramus24272" <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in messagenews:Ro-dndMBCP2bPHnN...@giganews.com...

> >> plonk
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> >Your loss...
>
> >Considering that you're also seemingly incapable of tying your fucking shoelaces without asking a bunch of stupid-assed-off-topic questions on a metalworking news group.
>
> And considering that you have never provided any evidence of any
> knowledge of metalworking while Iggy is smart enough to ask
> questions...
>
> plonk!
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.

John B. would you please plonk me as well since you can't see that for
years Iggy has done everything possible to run away from what he needs
to do to build his machining skills. Iggy is focused on one thing and
one thing only: buying stuff as cheap as he can. Not a bad skill to
have but when it blinds you, like it blinds Iggy, towards paying the
price and building his machining skills, I think it's a major problem.
I guess he runs an Algebra help website and writes software and that's
great but he seems to think he doesn't need adult eduction for
machining, which is too bad because the Chicago area probably has some
great programs for machining and for welding. He's tried to buy very
high quality stuff that I sell dirt cheap from me and I told him
forget it. I don't sell the high quality stuff I own for nothing. I
guess he was insulted that I wouldn't lower my prices.

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 4:57 pm, goodsoldierschw...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:24:01 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
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> <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 2, 1:05 pm, Ignoramus24272 <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.
> >24272.invalid> wrote:
> >> plonk
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> >> On 2013-01-02, PrecisionmachinisT <precisionmachinist...@notmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > "Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >> >> My wife has some honey that her mom put up about ten to fifteen years ago.
> >> >> Some have comb in it. It had started to crystallize. We put it in hot
> >> >> water for a time, and the crystals disappeared. Now, the comb has melted.
> >> >> How do we separate the wax from the honey?
>
> >> >> I figured there were enough old people here to find someone who knew this.
> >> >> The foodie newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly unless you are
> >> >> a member of the ruling cabal.
>
> >> > My gawd you are stupid.
>
> >Hey Iggy can you plonk me as well because I think you're a clueless
> >idiot when it comes to machining and always will be because of your
> >approach. I know it's wrong but every time I see your last name I'm
> >reminded of this scene from The Green Hornet movie. The movie pretty
> >much sucked ass except for this scene:
>

> >http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/68107120bc/the-green-hornet-scene-wi...

>
> Ah well. When I see your posts it comes to mind that you really aren't
> a metal worker, you are just another computer programmer and about as
> skilled as the "cobel coders" of yesteryear.

It's clear to me you don't have much of a mind and that you have no
clues what modern CNC machining is all about. To be a good CADCAM
programmer you must be a good machinist.

[jon_banquer]

Why the fuck should he? He's already stated it took less than 30
seconds to Google it.

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 07:54:03 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Google is your friend.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/62479ab2ba2c36c2
Usenet is such a funny place.

Note to PM: it took me more like 45 seconds to find that result...
because I typed your nym as two words on my first try.

[jon_banquer]

Thus speaks a machinist / CADCAM programmer.

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 5:13 pm, whoyakidding's ghost <whoyakidd...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 07:54:03 +0700, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com>

> wrote:
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> >On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 10:26:22 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
> ><precisionmachinist...@notmail.com> wrote:
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> >>"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:kc07fi$1n1$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> >>> My wife has some honey that her mom put up about ten to fifteen years ago.
> >>> Some have comb in it.  It had started to crystallize.  We put it in hot
> >>> water for a time, and the crystals disappeared.  Now, the comb has melted.
> >>> How do we separate the wax from the honey?
>
> >>> I figured there were enough old people here to find someone who knew this.
> >>> The foodie newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly unless you are
> >>> a member of the ruling cabal.
>
> >>My gawd you are stupid.
>
> >So tell us how to separate the honey from the comb. You being such a
> >brilliant sort of bloke.
>

> Google is your friend.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/62479ab2ba...

> Usenet is such a funny place.
>
> Note to PM: it took me more like 45 seconds to find that result...
> because I typed your nym as two words on my first try.

Wrong. Google is the enemy of lazy, clueless morons.

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 4:59 pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:40:25 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
>

> <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:
> >"Ignoramus24272" <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in messagenews:Ro-dndMBCP2bPHnN...@giganews.com...

> >> plonk
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> >Your loss...
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> >Considering that you're also seemingly incapable of tying your fucking shoelaces without asking a bunch of stupid-assed-off-topic questions on a metalworking news group.
>
> And considering that you have never provided any evidence of any
> knowledge of metalworking while Iggy is smart enough to ask
> questions...
>
> plonk!
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.

"And considering that you have never provided any evidence of any
knowledge of metalworking while Iggy is smart enough to ask
questions..."

He's provided plenty of metalworking knowledge on Usenet and he's done
it for many, many years.

[Ignoramus24272]

I no longer care about anyone's opinion as to whether I am a
"deserving metalworker", ever since I converted my Bridgeport mill to
LinuxCNC. I have proven something to myself and I could not care less
now about what anyone else thinks.

i

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 2, 5:39 pm, Ignoramus24272 <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.
24272.invalid> wrote:

> On 2013-01-03, John B <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:40:25 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"

> ><123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:
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> >>"Ignoramus24272" <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in messagenews:Ro-dndMBCP2bPHnN...@giganews.com...

> >>> plonk
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> >>Your loss...
>
> >>Considering that you're also seemingly incapable of tying your fucking shoelaces without asking a bunch of stupid-assed-off-topic questions on a metalworking news group.
>
> > And considering that you have never provided any evidence of any
> > knowledge of metalworking while Iggy is smart enough to ask
> > questions...
>
> I no longer care about anyone's opinion as to whether I am a
> "deserving metalworker", ever since I converted my Bridgeport mill to
> LinuxCNC. I have proven something to myself and I could not care less
> now about what anyone else thinks.
>
> i

Converting a Bridgeport knee mill to a Linux controlled CNC doesn't
make one a machinist. When you make statements like this it shows how
little you know about machining. Your tremendous ego holds you back
from starting at ground zero and taking adult education for machining.
You don't have the proper machining foundation and it shows
constantly. Your ego has gotten in the way for years with you learning
the fundamentals of machining.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"Ignoramus24272" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in message

news:DtqdnRHruM_7fHnN...@giganews.com...

> I could not care less now about what anyone else thinks.

Obviously, you cared about my mentioning how "Steve B" is stupid...

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"jon_banquer" <jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:85f1cea2-2a4b-41c2...@r10g2000pbd.googlegroups.com...

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[Steve B]

<goodsoldi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0ml9e8hei03mgf2nv...@4ax.com...

Can't speak for ig, but I'll grant you your wish.

Bye.

[Steve B]

"Ignoramus24272" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in message

news:DtqdnRHruM_7fHnN...@giganews.com...

I believe I was about 13, and wore huaraches to school, which a few people
didn't like. I didn't care.

Huaraches are sandals made out of a combination of leather tops and tire
tread bottoms.

If you care what people think about you, you are without a rudder, and have
a hole at the water line.

Steve

[Steve B]

> So tell us how to separate the honey from the comb. You being such a
> brilliant sort of bloke.

Not to answer your question to precisionmachinist, but in the real world,
they use a centrifuge, which empties the combs of honey, and then beeswax is
another sellable commodity.

Steve

[Martin Eastburn]

Pour it out into a bowl.
The wax will cool and float. It seeks the top of the honey.

Once cool, simply break out or take out the layer of wax.

Martin

On 1/2/2013 10:43 AM, Steve B wrote:
> "Cross-Slide" <3t...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:d1d5ca28-77f5-4a15...@googlegroups.com...

>> On Tuesday, January 1, 2013 8:53:48 PM UTC-6, Steve B wrote:
>>> My wife has some honey that her mom put up about ten to fifteen years
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> Some have comb in it. It had started to crystallize. We put it in hot
>>>
>>> water for a time, and the crystals disappeared. Now, the comb has
>>> melted.
>>>
>>> How do we separate the wax from the honey?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I figured there were enough old people here to find someone who knew
>>> this.
>>>
>>> The foodie newsgroups on the Internet are not user friendly unless you
>>> are a
>>>
>>> member of the ruling cabal.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>> Steve
>>
>> Many people eat the whole honey comb for the health benefits.
>> They pay extra for the honey comb which is normally has the wax separated
>> for sale as wax.
>>
>> You are lucky...
>
> Uh, it is impossible to get the crystallized honey out of the jar and the
> combs. Any ideas?
>
> Steve
>
>

[Ignoramus24272]

On some level, I do care what people think about me, it is called
reputation and it is important. But I try to form my own opinions
about various factual things or when thinking about the present and
future.

i

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 2, 8:44 pm, Ignoramus24272 <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.

24272.invalid> wrote:
> On 2013-01-03, Steve B <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Ignoramus24272" <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:DtqdnRHruM_7fHnN...@giganews.com...

> >> On 2013-01-03, John B <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:40:25 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"

> >>><123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>>"Ignoramus24272" <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in message

Bullshit, Iggy. You don't care what real machinists think about you.
Real machinists who have to deal with your bullshit think you're a
fucking moron. The reason you are a moron is that you refuse to pay
your dues. Many engineers suffer from the same mental illness you
suffer from. It's why most engineers can't machine their way out of a
paper bag. Like you, they think they're smarter than real machinists
and that their smarts can make up for the experience of cutting lots
and lots of different parts made out of different materials. Here is a
news flash for you bubba... it can't.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:kc2vpg$j5p$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

You pathetic simpleton...I feel sorry for you, really I do...

--but as I already explained, people have been separating honey from beeswax
for many thousands of years without a centrifuge..

Besides, if you already knew to use a centriguge (and had one available),
then why would you even be asking ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Iu1Bm7yOL8

[John B.]

Well, I've been here about as long as Iggy and I've certainly seen him
post questions. But why not? Unless you happen to be one of those
folks who "know everything" you will certainly, from time to time have
a question to ask. Are you arguing that one should never help out
anyone by answering their questions?

As for "engineering skills", where did that come from? I don't believe
Iggy ever claimed to be a machinist, or a welder for that matter, and
why should he? He's not in the machine shop or welding shop business.

Although I will say that instead of arguing about which version of
CAM is the best he goes out and actually does something.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

Interesting. Where did you serve your apprenticeship, were you trained
to be a machinist or?
--
Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

Jon, I've seen you wax loud and long about the virtues of various
pieces of software but, you know, I've never seen you advance any
opinions or advise about metalworking (the title of this site). I can
only assume that you know something about software and nothing about
metal working.

--
Cheers,

John B.

[John B.]

Ego getting in the way.... Oooo Jon, you've been looking in the
mirror.

--
Cheers,

John B.

[Jim Wilkins]

"Jonathan Banquer" <jonatha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fc6ef649-61d0-4b27-b953-
>...It's why most engineers can't machine their way out of a

> paper bag. Like you, they think they're smarter than real machinists
> and that their smarts can make up for the experience of cutting lots
> and lots of different parts made out of different materials. Here is
> a
> news flash for you bubba... it can't.

That certainly wasn't the case at Segway where the engineers
monopolized the CNC machines and forced me to use the manual ones.

The flip side is machinists with no clue about Statics or Dynamics who
take shortcuts like this one that caused the Kansas City Skyway
collapse. In case the explanation isn't clear, the threads bore the
load meant to be carried by the core of the rod. Unless the coupler
has been carefully dimensioned to stretch at the same rate as the rod,
the threads will fail progressively inwards from the ends at a load
far below the rod's tensile strength. Nonintuitively a thicker coupler
makes a weaker connection by concentrating the load on the first few
threads instead of distributing it over all of them. I learned this
from a lecture by the accident investigator.
http://www.churcharchitect.net/1142004.htm

jsw

[Pete Keillor]

See the Wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse

It's interesting to note that yes, the contractor suggested a modified
design to enable actual construction of the walkways in the field
which finally led to the collapse, but the engineering firm made the
original dumbass design that created the need for some type of
modification, the original being hanger rods threaded all the way from
the second floor walkway to the fourth floor walkway, and secondarily,
support beams welded from two channels to make a box beam, with the
hanger rods passing right through the welded seam, the weakest point
on the beam.

Plenty of blame to go around on that one.

Pete Keillor

[John B.]

Are you implying that you are a "real" machinist? And, you served your
apprenticeship where? Adult education class?

From reading the posts that you have made here it appears that ~you~
really can't do metalworking, You can program a machine to do metal
working but that is a long, long, step away from actually doing hands
on work.
--
Cheers,

John B.

[Jim Wilkins]

"Pete Keillor" <Pete.K...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:tvuae8tnq0a5ccqfl...@4ax.com...

IIRC the fabricator didn't have enough clearance around his lathe to
turn the rods in one piece, and didn't want to sub the job out. The
full-length rods were also expensive/difficult to transport.

[Gunner]

On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:21:44 +0700, John B. <johnbs...@gmail.com>

Well said!

I was here when he first came in and asked about how to do simple
welding...probably 10-12 yrs ago.

He has come a long way.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 3:29 am, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:10:47 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
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I graduated from Kaynor Tech in Waterbury, Connecticut machine /
toolmaker program with 1080 hours credited toward my machining
apprenticeship. I've stated this numerous times on Usenet. That you're
not able to find it is no surprise because like Steve B you're a brain
dead moron with no clues.

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 4:27 am, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jonathan Banquer" <jonathanbanq...@gmail.com> wrote in message

There is no flip side. You either pay your dues making lots of
different parts from lots of different materials and become a real
machinist or you don't. You don't need a CNC machine to make lots of
different parts from lots of different materials.

[Jonathan Banquer]

Much like Steve B and Tom Gardner you can't use Google and your both
lazy and dumb. I have hundreds of posts on Usenet that discuss
machining and machining techniques.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

Every one of them is bullshit and is mocked, denigrated and disparaged
by *everyone* else. I have never seen a single person side with you on
anything, little jonny banqueer. You are a fucking pariah, and it's
almost entirely because you're a shitbag in addition to being an
ignorant blowhard with bad values.


--
Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you
know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.

[Jonathan Banquer]

Wrong again, Brain Dead Fred.

I'll remind you again that you only speak for yourself not *everyone*
else like you constantly try to do. You seem to really struggle with
facts like this.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 8:43 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer lied:

> On Jan 3, 8:32 am, "Fred C. Dobbs" <treas...@sierramadre.con> wrote:

>> On 1/3/2013 8:27 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer lied:

>>
>>>> Are you implying that you are a "real" machinist? And, you served your
>>>> apprenticeship where? Adult education class?
>>
>>>> From reading the posts that you have made here it appears that ~you~
>>>> really can't do metalworking, You can program a machine to do metal
>>>> working but that is a long, long, step away from actually doing hands
>>>> on work.
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>
>>>> John B.
>>
>>> Much like Steve B and Tom Gardner you can't use Google and your both
>>> lazy and dumb. I have hundreds of posts on Usenet that discuss
>>> machining and machining techniques.
>>
>> Every one of them is bullshit and is mocked, denigrated and disparaged
>> by *everyone* else. I have never seen a single person side with you on
>> anything, little jonny banqueer. You are a fucking pariah, and it's
>> almost entirely because you're a shitbag in addition to being an
>> ignorant blowhard with bad values.
>>
>> --
>> Any more lip out of you and I'll haul off and let you have it...if you
>> know what's good for you, you won't monkey around with Fred C. Dobbs.
>
>
> Wrong again,

Nope - I'm *right*, and you and everyone else know it. *EVERYONE*
thinks you're a dull, plodding, zero-achieving shitbag, and that's
exactly what you are.

> I'll remind you again that you only speak for yourself

In *THIS* context, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, I speak for everyone.

[Jonathan Banquer]

[Fred C. Dobbs]

[Jonathan Banquer]

[Steve B]

"Ignoramus24272" <ignoram...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in message

news:rJmdnaNbe60CkXjN...@giganews.com...

Reputation is important, both business, and personal. And real business
acquaintances and real friends will have an idea of your personality,
integrity, and character. So much so that if someone was to say something
against you that your friends would question it, and come to you and ask.

So, don't worry one whit about the anklebiters. Just those who are
important in business, and friendship. My Dad said that if a man had six
friends, he was lucky, and would be a pretty busy man enjoying those
friendships. He said that after about six, the relationships start to
shallow out, as you have less time to spend with each.

When I was in business, my clients and suppliers were important to me. I
paid no attention to others. All my life, I consider what my friends think
of me to be a mirror of my own activity, and so long as I'm a decent friend,
that mirror will be pretty reliable most of the time.

The rest are unimportant babbling gossips, just like a lot of folks here.
Don't worry about them.

Not one whit.

Steve

[Steve B]

"Gunner" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote

> I was here when he first came in and asked about how to do simple
> welding...probably 10-12 yrs ago.
>
> He has come a long way.
>
> Gunner

If I recall, his first posts were about 7018 welding. And from what I see,
he mastered that pretty well. And I see he's still asking questions, and
learning.

Unlike some here, who know it all.

It has to be hard to be perfect.

Steve

[Fred C. Dobbs]

Someone who doesn't care what anyone in the world thinks of him is a
sociopath. I have long maintained that your friends are the people
about whose opinions - of you and other things - you *do* care and
*ought* to care. You might not change your course of action or your way
of thinking if a friend criticizes it, but you sure as hell ought to
give the friend's opinion more consideration than you would give the
opinion of a stranger or someone you don't respect at all. Presumably,
your friends - and their opinions - have earned at least some of your
respect, or else why would they be your friends at all?

[Fred C. Dobbs]

little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually "do"
anything with CAD/CAM; he just blabbers about it meaninglessly.

[jon_banquer]

It's obvious that Fred C. Dobbs lost it when his cheap Chinese TV
couldn't be repaired. Seems like Brain Dead Fred is desperately
looking for someone who can repair his cheap Chinese TV. I don't do TV
repair. It's not in my skill set. Does anyone have this skill set that
wants to do pro bono TV repair work and help mentally challenged Fred
C Dobbs? It might get Fred C Dobbs and his numerous other posting
aliases (Plimpton, Max Blast, maxheadroom, etc.) off Usenet and back
to doing what he loves to do most: watching the Jerry Springer show.

[Jim Wilkins]

"Jonathan Banquer" <jonatha...@gmail.com> wrote

On Jan 3, 4:27 am, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The flip side is machinists with no clue about Statics or Dynamics
> who

> take shortcuts like this one ...

-There is no flip side. You either pay your dues making lots of
-different parts from lots of different materials and become a real
-machinist or you don't. You don't need a CNC machine to make lots of
-different parts from lots of different materials.

I designed and built equipment where the electrical properties of
machined surfaces mattered a lot, for skin effect or corona discharge.
I didn't have stress risers on my lightly loaded parts but they are
another cause of disputes. When the machinist didn't understand why an
outside corner needed a large radius and smooth finish, but not close
dimensional accuracy, they took the easy shortcut and then gave me lip
until management had to order them to do it RIGHT.

In general they assumed they knew more than the damned college boys
and if they didn't understand the science driving a difficult
requirement they resisted meeting it. The college boys stopped
fighting them and made me the shop liaison, partly because if they
made too much trouble I could do the job at home or bid it out to
experimental shops I'd worked with in the past.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 3, 9:58 am, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jonathan Banquer" <jonathanbanq...@gmail.com> wrote

For the twenty years I've been machining there has always been a wall
between engineering and machining. I don't see any improvement coming
in this area anytime soon.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

little jonny "bozo" banqueer's only <chortle> "skill" is clicking
"connect" on LinkedIn with people who are equally interested in trying
to win a prize for the most LinkedIn "friends". Their endorsement of
little jonny "bozo" banqueer's <chortle> "skill set" carries about as
much meaning as little jonny "bozo" banqueer's political opinions - they
are the disrespected, disparaged, mocked opinions of do-nothings.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

HA HA HA HA HA! Jumping fucking jesus, that's hilarious!

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:39:52 -0700, "Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:

>All my life, I consider what my friends think
>of me to be a mirror of my own activity, and so long as I'm a decent friend,
>that mirror will be pretty reliable most of the time.

Racists tend to have racist friends, because decent people don't hang
out with racists. If you have any friends who aren't racists, it's
most likely because you've been hiding your real feelings by using a
fake name to spew them. In which case your "friends" know you less
well than readers here who've seen samples of your peabrain usenet
horseshit such as this one:

"The current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is not only a stupid
Nigger, he is actually dangerous, and is being controlled from outside
forces. You can not in your most lucid moments say that Obama is
coming up with all this in his own mind. His brain is not that large.
He cannot even remember a two minute speech. He is a puppet. It is
the puppetmasters who need to be watched. I guess I can expect
repercussions for this. Newton Smith " -- Steve B
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/cc547e8bdece2d18?dmode=source

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 10:08 AM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:39:52 -0700, "Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All my life, I consider what my friends think
>> of me to be a mirror of my own activity, and so long as I'm a decent friend,
>> that mirror will be pretty reliable most of the time.
>
> Racists tend to have racist friends, because

"racist" - a meaningless left-wing swearword.

Leftists, of course, are the worst racists around. They see race as
being important - even determinative. *All* leftists are racist in this
way; some individual conservatives may be racist, but most aren't, and
race is not any part of conservative doctrine. Race and racial identity
are deeply embedded in left-wing doctrine.

[jon_banquer]

On Jan 3, 9:58 am, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jonathan Banquer" <jonathanbanq...@gmail.com> wrote

The forgot to mention the other side of the story which is far more
common:

Arrogant, ignorant engineers who don't understand machining and who
don't think they need to learn anything from a machinist calling for
needless small radius's in the bottom of deep pockets. They whine like
spoiled little bitches when their part is so expensive / takes to long
to machine.

[jon_banquer]

[Fred C. Dobbs]

You, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, understand neither
engineering nor machining.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[jon_banquer]

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[jon_banquer]

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 10:11:01 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
<trea...@sierramadre.con> wrote:

>On 1/3/2013 10:08 AM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:39:52 -0700, "Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All my life, I consider what my friends think
>>> of me to be a mirror of my own activity, and so long as I'm a decent friend,
>>> that mirror will be pretty reliable most of the time.
>>
>> Racists tend to have racist friends, because
>
>"racist" - a meaningless left-wing swearword.

Racists are ignorant - like you and Steve B, both of whom imagine that
nobody can figure out that you're as helpless in real life as you are
here.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 9:57 AM, little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*,
pissed away some more of his worthless time in Usenet with:

> It's obvious that

...that little jonny "bozo" banqueer, CAD/CAM *FRAUD*, doesn't actually
*do* anything with CAD/CAM. He's a *fraud*. He just pisses away the
hours in Usenet, and collects a few more LinkedIn "friends".

[Fred C. Dobbs]

On 1/3/2013 10:35 AM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 10:11:01 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
> <trea...@sierramadre.con> wrote:
>
>> On 1/3/2013 10:08 AM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:39:52 -0700, "Steve B" <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All my life, I consider what my friends think
>>>> of me to be a mirror of my own activity, and so long as I'm a decent friend,
>>>> that mirror will be pretty reliable most of the time.
>>>
>>> Racists tend to have racist friends, because
>>
>> "racist" - a meaningless left-wing swearword.
>
> Racists are ignorant -

Racists are left-wingers: those who think race matters. Stupid
shit-eating leftists like you, for example.

[Jim Wilkins]

"jon_banquer" <jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f9a5fca7-3ef2-40c5...@t6g2000pba.googlegroups.com...

On Jan 3, 9:58 am, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... The college boys stopped

> fighting them and made me the shop liaison, partly because if they
> made too much trouble I could do the job at home or bid it out to
> experimental shops I'd worked with in the past.

-For the twenty years I've been machining there has always been a wall
-between engineering and machining. I don't see any improvement coming
-in this area anytime soon.

I started at an auto industry custom machinery builder after the Army
and asked if I could try working up to engineer, so they ran me
through the sheet metal, machine shop, drafting and assembly
departments before apprenticing me to an EE. Then a recession killed
them so I've more or less repeated the process at several interesting
but risky startups. The result is that I can take a proposal and
budget and come back a few months later with a finished prototype
ready for production.

In my experience most of the non-technical employees in a high-tech
company are defensive and insecure about their jobs and need to be
handled carefully. The funny one was the way computer support reacted
to lab techs who knew considerably more about electronics and
computers but were too busy to mess with them. The IT guys couldn't
have been more wary of us if we had Doberman fangs.

[Jim Wilkins]

"jon_banquer" <jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:87680ee7-025f-41aa...@t6g2000pba.googlegroups.com...
-Arrogant, ignorant engineers who don't understand machining and who
-don't think they need to learn anything from a machinist calling for
-needless small radius's in the bottom of deep pockets. They whine
like
-spoiled little bitches when their part is so expensive / takes to
long
-to machine.

That too, electrical engineers in particular learn next to nothing of
mechanical subjects. I had to show one how to clamp a block in a vise,
and explain Pemnuts to a highly respected mechanical engineering
professor.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

Fangs like these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF4H0WfuiM8 - about
3:53 into it.

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 10:35 am, whoyakidding's ghost <whoyakidd...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 10:11:01 -0800, "Fred C. Dobbs"
>

Trying to figure out whether Steve B. or Fred C. Dobbs is more
ignorant is not an easy task.

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 11:11 am, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "jon_banquer" <jonbanq...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

I spent over two years working in Qualcomm's machine shop. It was a
very small prototype machine shop. There were only three of us and all
of us had to deal directly with whatever Qualcomm engineer wanted
parts made. We all had to quote the part, program the job, machine the
part, make all the arrangements for whatever the part needed
(anodizing, heat treat, etc.) as well as handle packaging and shipping
of the part. The majority of parts I programmed and machined were
designed by Qualcomm's electrical engineers.

We have very serious issues with manufacturing in America that other
countries like Germany seem to be much better at than we are.

We also have a very serious problem with machining education in
America. When I got into the machining trade in 1993 the
apprenticeship programs that companies like Pratt and Whitney had were
being discontinued / phased out. Like most other machinists who got
into the trade at the time I did and who wanted a well rounded
education I moved from shop to shop doing new and different parts
using different methods, machines and CADCAM programming systems.

[Fred C. Dobbs]

...figure out if you know *anything* about CAD/CAM is like pulling teeth.

I don't think you do. You're a dabbler.

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 12:09 pm, Jonathan Banquer <jonathanbanq...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Here is a picture of Qualcomm's small prototype machine shop. The
sheet metal shop is attached to it. The toolbox setup you see in the
picture is mine. My gauge pin library is on top of the side box on the
right.

http://s636.beta.photobucket.com/user/jonbanquer/media/MainToolboxEvolution.jpg.html?sort=3&o=22

[Fred C. Dobbs]

That's because manufacturing in America is plagued with argumentative
know-nothing fuckwits like you.

[Ignoramus9117]

On 2013-01-03, John B <johnbs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:08:40 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
><jonba...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 2, 4:59?pm, John B. <johnbsloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 14:40:25 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
>>>
>>> <123machin...@notmail.com> wrote:
>>> >"Ignoramus24272" <ignoramus24...@NOSPAM.24272.invalid> wrote in messagenews:Ro-dndMBCP2bPHnN...@giganews.com...
>>> >> plonk
>>>
>>> >Your loss...
>>>
>>> >Considering that you're also seemingly incapable of tying your fucking shoelaces without asking a bunch of stupid-assed-off-topic questions on a metalworking news group.
>>>
>>> And considering that you have never provided any evidence of any
>>> knowledge of metalworking while Iggy is smart enough to ask
>>> questions...
>>>
>>> plonk!
>>>
>>> John B.
>>
>>John B. would you please plonk me as well since you can't see that for
>>years Iggy has done everything possible to run away from what he needs
>>to do to build his machining skills. Iggy is focused on one thing and
>>one thing only: buying stuff as cheap as he can. Not a bad skill to
>>have but when it blinds you, like it blinds Iggy, towards paying the
>>price and building his machining skills, I think it's a major problem.
>>I guess he runs an Algebra help website and writes software and that's
>>great but he seems to think he doesn't need adult eduction for
>>machining, which is too bad because the Chicago area probably has some
>>great programs for machining and for welding. He's tried to buy very
>>high quality stuff that I sell dirt cheap from me and I told him
>>forget it. I don't sell the high quality stuff I own for nothing. I
>>guess he was insulted that I wouldn't lower my prices.
>
> Well, I've been here about as long as Iggy and I've certainly seen him
> post questions. But why not? Unless you happen to be one of those
> folks who "know everything" you will certainly, from time to time have
> a question to ask. Are you arguing that one should never help out
> anyone by answering their questions?
>
> As for "engineering skills", where did that come from? I don't believe
> Iggy ever claimed to be a machinist, or a welder for that matter, and
> why should he? He's not in the machine shop or welding shop business.
>
> Although I will say that instead of arguing about which version of
> CAM is the best he goes out and actually does something.

In addition to "machining", sometimes I do "de-machining", too, say,
right now we are parting out a 20" by 10' Lodge and Shipley lathe.

I think that it is fun, I am not complaining about the money part, and
I could not care less about opinions of uptight and underpaid John
Banquer.

i


i

[Ignoramus9117]

On 2013-01-03, Steve B <ste...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Gunner" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> I was here when he first came in and asked about how to do simple
>> welding...probably 10-12 yrs ago.
>>
>> He has come a long way.
>>
>> Gunner
>
> If I recall, his first posts were about 7018 welding. And from what I see,
> he mastered that pretty well. And I see he's still asking questions, and
> learning.
>
> Unlike some here, who know it all. It has to be hard to be perfect.

These days I use more 6013 for quick and easy stuff.

i

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 3:30 pm, Ignoramus9117 <ignoramus9...@NOSPAM.9117.invalid>
wrote:

How do I pronounce your last name again?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/68107120bc/the-green-hornet-scene-with-james-franco-and-christoph-waltz

[Jim Wilkins]

"Jonathan Banquer" <jonatha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f1745773-8532-4ad3...@6g2000pbh.googlegroups.com...
-I spent over two years working in Qualcomm's machine shop. It was a
-very small prototype machine shop. There were only three of us and
all
-of us had to deal directly with whatever Qualcomm engineer wanted
-parts made. We all had to quote the part, program the job, machine
the
-part, make all the arrangements for whatever the part needed
-(anodizing, heat treat, etc.) as well as handle packaging and
shipping
-of the part. The majority of parts I programmed and machined were
-designed by Qualcomm's electrical engineers.

Hmm.

Drs Bernard Sklar and Andrew Viterbi were VERY highly regarded by the
Ph.D. engineers and mathematicians at Mitre. I attended Dr Sklar's two
week short course in digital communications theory and have never
before or since struggled so hard to understand something. I knew I
was in trouble when he asked for a numerical energy value of the
entropy of a data pattern. My Chemistry degree had been relatively
light on calculus and advanced statistics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viterbi_algorithm

[Jonathan Banquer]

On Jan 3, 4:01 pm, "Jim Wilkins" <muratla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jonathan Banquer" <jonathanbanq...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Viterbi was long gone when I worked for Qualcomm. I don't think he has
had much to do with Qualcomm for many years now and has moved on. So
have I.