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raven1
Kantica22 @ Nydenempire.com
> I HATE JEWS. I wish Higler had FINISHED the job in Germany.
Fuuny, because their was NO ONE by that name "in Germany" capable of
"finishing the job" (nor has there EVER BEEN), now "Adolf HiTler",
that's another story. Your "Knowledge of ACTUAL History" (or "Lack
thereof") just says more about YOUR Intelliegnce rather than the ones
that you are "yelling" (or whatever) at, and especially given the FACT
of "Real Realiy" that had HiTler won, there would be NO UNITED STATES
Of America in which to "created the Internet", there would be NOBODY
available for You to "WHINE at", there would be "Nothing avaiable" for
which you COULD WHINE, nor would evcen your WHINING be "Tolerated" for
"More than 5 Seconds PAST your WHINE", so there you go.
Besides, where is YOUR "100% Proof" that the "Whiners" doing the "MOST
Whining (far beyond the scope of what they are even WHINING ABOUT) are
"Jewish" in the first place? Did "God Himself" tell you? Did "Elvis"?
Do you see "Spots" and/ or "Jewish Conspiracies to ruin YOUR (and ONLY
Your) Life? Is the UNIVERSE (except for YOURSELF) "Jewish" therefore
"out to get you"? LOL!
womanGoddess
> I HATE JEWS. I wish Higler had FINISHED the job in Germany.
Hello Kennie Pangborn.
Doing your usual crap again?
You seem to pull this act whenever you are seriously losing arguments
on usenet.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Greegor
Moe > are seriously losing arguments on usenet.
Proof right there that you're telling lies, Moe!
Are you declaring victorious retreat?
LOL
womanGoddess
The actual raven1 doesn't post crap like that. Kennie was caught in
the alt.atheism groups forging posts that say exactly the same crap as
that post.
Its my observation that Kennie pulls this crap when he's frustrated
in losing arguments and thinks he can post such crap pretending to be
other people without anyone knowing its him.
Its your obese misogynistic master Kennie who retreats,not me.
Greegor
Moe > are seriously losing arguments on usenet.
G > Proof right there that you're telling lies, Moe!
G >
G > Are you declaring victorious retreat?
G >
G > LOL
Moe > The actual raven1 doesn't post crap like that.
No! Really? Brain surgeon.
Moe > Kennie was caught
Frame job by anony poster.
I don't think you're really that gullible.
I think you KNOW that ""Anonymous"" Davey ULANOWSKI did it.
Even the real atheists know it was a FRAME job.
Moe > in the alt.atheism groups forging posts that
Moe > say exactly the same crap as that post.
And yet they have the same miscoded hex characters
that keep appearing in anonymized posts from
Dave, Anonymous, socks and Kent.
Moe > Its my observation
Wishful thinking of a complete moron.
Moe > that Kennie pulls this crap when he's
Moe > frustrated in losing arguments
Laughing his ass off at you guys!
Moe > and thinks he can post such crap
Moe > pretending to be other people
Moe > without anyone knowing its him.
Davey's been attempting frame jobs for YEARS.
You know it, law enforcement knows it,
and Ken and I know it.
Moe > Its your obese misogynistic master
Moe > Kennie who retreats,not me.
I LIKE that about you, Maureen!
Headlong right over the cliff!
Kent Wills
<quotht...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>I HATE JEWS. I wish Higler had FINISHED the job in Germany.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
Kent Wills
Nydenempire.com" <charme...@charter.net> wrote:
>On Dec 11, 1:51�pm, raven1 <quoththera...@nevermore.com> wrote:
>> I HATE JEWS. �I wish Higler had FINISHED the job in Germany.
>
>Fuuny, because their was NO ONE by that name "in Germany" capable of
>"finishing the job" (nor has there EVER BEEN), now "Adolf HiTler",
Pangborn is a horrible speller.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html
>that's another story. Your "Knowledge of ACTUAL History" (or "Lack
>thereof") just says more about YOUR Intelliegnce rather than the ones
>that you are "yelling" (or whatever) at, and especially given the FACT
>of "Real Realiy" that had HiTler won, there would be NO UNITED STATES
>Of America in which to "created the Internet", there would be NOBODY
>available for You to "WHINE at", there would be "Nothing avaiable" for
>which you COULD WHINE, nor would evcen your WHINING be "Tolerated" for
>"More than 5 Seconds PAST your WHINE", so there you go.
Have you heard of punctuation?
>
>Besides, where is YOUR "100% Proof" that the "Whiners" doing the "MOST
>Whining (far beyond the scope of what they are even WHINING ABOUT) are
>"Jewish" in the first place? Did "God Himself" tell you? Did "Elvis"?
>Do you see "Spots" and/ or "Jewish Conspiracies to ruin YOUR (and ONLY
>Your) Life? Is the UNIVERSE (except for YOURSELF) "Jewish" therefore
>"out to get you"? LOL!
Pangborn's paranoia makes him believe there is a MASSIVE
COALITION FORCE (emphasis Pangborn's) out to get him.
He never mentioned any religious affiliation, but his intense
bigotry might make him believe Jews are behind it.
"It's attached to a thing called a "WIFE" Betty."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn showing how he views his wife
as an object and NOT a human being.
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Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Moe > You seem to pull this act whenever you
>Moe > are seriously losing arguments on usenet.
>
>G > Proof right there that you're telling lies, Moe!
>G >
>G > Are you declaring victorious retreat?
>G >
>G > LOL
>
>Moe > The actual raven1 doesn't post crap like that.
>
>No! Really? Brain surgeon.
>
>Moe >�Kennie was caught
>
>Frame job by anony poster.
>I don't think you're really that gullible.
We can only go by the evidence available.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html
>I think you KNOW that ""Anonymous"" Davey ULANOWSKI did it.
Who do you propose that is?
>Even the real atheists know it was a FRAME job.
Interesting out. When any atheist claims it was Pangborn, you'll
cry that they aren't a real atheist.
>
>Moe > in the alt.atheism groups forging posts that
>Moe > say exactly the same crap as that post.
>
>And yet they have the same miscoded hex characters
>that keep appearing in anonymized posts from
>Dave, Anonymous, socks and Kent.
I've only seen them in post from you and Pangborn. More often
with you than Ken.
No one else has them. I think it's something with your computers,
but I can't say with absolute certainty.
>
>Moe > �Its my observation
>
>Wishful thinking of a complete moron.
>
>Moe > that Kennie pulls this crap when he's
>Moe > frustrated in losing arguments
>
>Laughing his ass off at you guys!
Is that why he gets so angry?
>
>Moe > and thinks he can post such crap
>Moe > pretending to be other people
>Moe > without anyone knowing its him.
>
>Davey's been attempting frame jobs for YEARS.
So you claim.
>
>You know it, law enforcement knows it,
>and Ken and I know it.
Yet Ken has taken NO legal action. He claims to know EXACTLY
where David lives, yet does nothing to stop the alleged liable.
Do you have any idea why Ken is doing nothing?
>
>Moe >�Its your obese misogynistic master
>Moe > Kennie who retreats,not me.
>
>I LIKE that about you, Maureen!
>Headlong right over the cliff!
You can make false claims as often as you wish. They'll never
become the truth, which is the very reason you make them.
A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (either directly or through the same standards he
DEMANDS be held to others):
Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
(DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION 04/10/1996
Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT
"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).
http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead
Me: "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg. Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?
Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser
" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
April 2000, Gregory "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson
http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson
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From: Greegor <gree...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services
With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.) After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end. I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water. Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms. I brought her up and she
gasped for air. When she'd caught her breath, I asked her, "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo? Pokemon? Rhianna?"
She shook her head. "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded. She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."
"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.
--a true story
As of Sunday, Nov. 29, 2009:
Financials
Title: STATE OF IOWA VS HANSON, GREG SCOTT
Case: 06571 AGCR015216 (LINN)
Citation Number:
Summary Orig Paid Due
COSTS 9200.00 850.00 8350.00
FINE 500.00 500.00 0.00
SURCHARGE 150.00 150.00 0.00
RESTITUTION 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTHER 0.00 0.00 0.00
$9850.00 $1500.00 $8350.00
Yes, Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson still owes over
$8000.00 related to his convictions for BEATING his ex-wife.
freedom
>On Dec 11, 6:28=A0pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Moe > You seem to pull this act whenever you
>> Moe > are seriously losing arguments on usenet.
>>
>> Proof right there that you're telling lies, Moe!
>>
>> Are you declaring victorious retreat?
>>
>> LOL
>
> The actual raven1 doesn't post crap like that. Kennie was caught in
>the alt.atheism groups forging posts that say exactly the same crap as
>that post.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html contains conclusive proof
that he was caught, and then tried to lie his way out of it.
>
> Its my observation that Kennie pulls this crap when he's frustrated
>in losing arguments and thinks he can post such crap pretending to be
>other people without anyone knowing its him.
>
> Its your obese misogynistic master Kennie who retreats,not me.
A perfect example of this was when he vowed to post the "adoption
paperwork" on me. I met his conditions, calling his bluff, and he ran away=
as fast as his pudgy legs could carry him.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are=
one DESPICABLE CUNT!!!! ....Bitch you are GUTTER SLIME!"
--Kenneth Pangborn, from a usenet argument with a female debator,
highlighting his typical views on women
"Rumors about ken are true, he is a bad man. That is why both my mother and=
I ran out of there as fast as we could back in the late summer of 2002. He
ruined my life and my moms life....His business is a scam, as he is in the
rest of his life. He enjoys child pornography and was investigated for that=
as well....he'll call my mom 20 times a day until she answers...[Ken's
sister-in-law Rebecca Reilly] wouldnt come over to our house anymore
because of how he would talk to her and come on to her....and he had over
180 pictures of her on his computer"
--Ken Pangborn's daughter Megan
"Blood, breath or urine?"
--question to Ken Pangborn from a Florida police officer in November 2008,
during a traffic stop from which Pangborn was subsequently charged with
DUI**
"...beating [some kids] into a bloody pulp is the ONLY thing=20
that would get through to them."=20
--Ken Pangborn on child rearing
"If you call the police, I'll knock out all of your teeth, I'll cripple
you. I may go to prison for it, but when I get out, I'll be able to walk,
but you will still be a cripple."
--Pangborn puppet Greg Hanson of alt.support.child-protective-services **,
in a verbal threat to his girlfriend
** - this conclusion was reached via applying Ken and Greg's logic
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Greegor
DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
DDM > paperwork" on me. I met his conditions,
DDM > calling his bluff, and he ran away=
Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
Your DOB is 9/26/70.
Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
That's why you used the nym Dave U. Random!
David ULANOWSKI Random.
How come you didn't set Moe straight when she
asserted that Tor is for PORN, Dave? LOL
http://www.malevolentmoms.info/
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Registrant Name:dave moore
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Registrant Street1:po box 702
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Moore Linda webpage
NOTE LOCATION OF REGISTRATION "PORTAGE INDIANA" Note name DAVE
MOORE ;
Linda Michelle Boss of Centralia, Missouri is a 32-year old mother of
four.
In 2006, she began having an extramarital affair with a coworker at
the
SONIC restaurant where she worked, a teenaged boy named Brice Wayne
Windsor.
She then attempted to eradicate her children's father, who has always
been
an involved parent, from their lives, through tactics such as
threats,
attempted baseless restraining orders interference with phone
communication,
violation of parenting time agreements and brainwashing her children
with
lies regarding their father.
In April 2006, Boss attempted to obtain a restraining order which
would have
prevented any contact between the father and the four children. The
grounds
for her request were, in part, (1) that he called police when she and
her
friends threatened him, (2) that he told his daughter that he might
come to
watch her at her school track meet. Understandably, the court denied
her
request for an order of protection.
Boss and Windsor have repeatedly interfered with the father's attempts
to
communicate with his children. Often, one or the other would pick up
the
phone when he called, shout an obscenity or a threat, then hang up the
phone
before he could ask to speak with his children. On one such occasion,
Brice
Windsor answered the phone and stated "When I get done with your wife,
I'm
going to [rape] your daughters" while Boss laughed in the background.
The
daughters were 13 and 12 years of age at the time of this incident.
Postal mail which is sent to the children never seems to make it to
them.
Most notably, after Boss had the telephone service disconnected, a
prepaid
phone card was mailed to the daughter but never reached her.
On multiple occasions, Boss agreed to the father having specific dates
and
times of parenting time with the children, then violated the
agreements and
hid the children from the father when he traveled to pick them up (a
seven-hour drive one way.) As a result of her lack of moral character,
Boss
also became pregnant with an illegitimate child while she was still
married
to her children's father. Although it was physically and medically
impossible for him to have fathered the child, Boss fraudulently
reported
the matter to Social Services and is attempting to obtain child
support for
Jade Elizabeth Windsor, due to Windsor's apparent inability to support
his
own (alleged) child.
Due to her financial irresponsibility, Boss' home was foreclosed on.
The
four children have had to be uprooted from their home for the fourth
time in
as many years, and she has now packed them into a tiny trailer with
Brice
Windsor and his family.
Among Boss' other abusive actions
. Her ten-year old son stated that he was hungry. Boss told him "fend
for
yourself." The child then tried to cook dinner for himself and
severely
burned himself. The mother did not seek treatment.
. Left her daughter home alone with a broken leg so that she could
meet
Brice Windsor for her affair.
. Left six-year old child home without supervision while having an
extramarital affair.
. Inability to keep a job for any length of time, due to her inability
to
get along with anyone.
-----------------
Hometown
Centralia, Missouri
Birthdate October 12, 1974
Occupation
SONIC carhop, gas station clerk
Claims to shame
Repeated violations of parenting agreements;
extramarital affair with teenaged boy in front of children;
parental alienation/brainwashing of children;
numerous instances of child abuse and neglect;
became pregnant from her affair while still married
Audio
Linda Boss brags about bad legal advice
===============
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2007/06/10/news/porter_county/...
Sunday, June 10, 2007 | No comments posted.
Sex offender accused of not registering
PORTAGE | A sex offender who police say was evicted from his Portage
home on
May 22 and then failed to notify police of a new address within 72
hours as
is required by law has been arrested on a felony charge of failure to
register as a sex offender.
Battery | Todd Yates, 28, 2970 Monnier St., Portage; ****David Moore,
36,
Calumet City*****; Paul Dimiceli, 30, Dyer; Johnathan Brandon, 18,
2104
Lapine St., Portage; Nicholas Mandich, 23, 309 Kraus Drive,
Valparaiso;
Derek Nowacki, 27, 1018 S. 22nd St., Chesterton; Jeffery Knight, 40,
717
George St., Valparaiso; Devena Anderson, 31, East Chicago; David
Carlson,
40, 644 N. Calumet, Valparaiso; Roger Reese, 53, 3461 Sunnyside,
Portage.
ARRESTS
> Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
> Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
> David Daniel Moore court records: David D. Moore
> DOB 9/26/70 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, IL
> case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
> Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
> pretrial February 8th 8:30 hearing on March 12th 1PM
> The North Porter County complex is in Portage, Indiana
David Daniel Moore DOB 9/26/70
Front Left pine tree and tree on blvd
Front Right pine tree stop sign
Right Side with bird feeder
Right Rear door
Parcel details
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
Map
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Photo
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Dave's Adoptive Mother Janet M Moore 68 Calumet City, IL
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=850+buffalo+ave&where=Calumet+City%2C+IL
Dave's Birth Mother Judith A Ulanowski 71 Johnstown, PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname=judith&name=ulanowski&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=116+donald+lane&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Ulanowski-family-history.ashx
Ulanowski Name Meaning and History
Polish: habitational name for someone from
any of various places in Poland called Ulany,
Ulanów, or Ulanowice. The places are named
with the Polish personal name Ulan.
http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname=judith&name=ulanowski&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
http://www.whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=116+donald+lane&where=Johnstown%2C+PA
Judith A Ulanowski 71 Johnstown, PA
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Ulanowski-family-history.ashx
Ulanowski Name Meaning and History
Polish: habitational name for someone from any of various places in
Poland called Ulany, Ulanów, or Ulanowice. The places are named with
the Polish personal name Ulan.
http://198.173.15.21/ccao/ParcelDetails.asp?PIN=30182330330000
Cook County Assessor's Office: Property Search Details
Property Index Number: 30-18-233-033-0000
View Property Picture
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Address : 850 Buffalo Ave
City : Calumet City
Township : Thornton
Neighborhood : 61
Taxcode : 37030
Assessed Valuation
2008
First Pass Assessment 2007
Board of Review Certified
Land Assessed Value 3,025
2,521
Building Assessed Value 16,434
14,957
Total Assessed Value 19,459
17,478
Estimated Market Value 121,619
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Property Characteristics
Class: 2-11
Description : Two to Six Apartments, Over 62 Years
Residence Type Two Story
Use Multi Family
Apartments Two
Exterior Construction Masonry
Full Baths 2
Half Baths 0
Basement1 Partial and Rec Room
Attic None
Central Air No
Number of Fireplaces 1
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Building Square Footage: 1,752
Land Square Footage 6,304
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Age: 27
Land Square Footage: 6,304
1 Excluded from Building Square footage, except apartment
2 Excluded from Building Square footage
Sunday, June 10, 2007
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Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
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case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
pretrial February 8th 8:30 hearing on March 12th 1PM
The North Porter County complex is in Portage, Indiana
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paid $2000 bond, Attorney Robert Harper Portage, Indiana
does not have a probation officer pre-trial
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krp
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d4407493-8ad8-4a74...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
DDM > A perfect example of this was when
DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
DDM > paperwork" on me. I met his conditions,
DDM > calling his bluff, and he ran away=
GH> Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
GH> Your DOB is 9/26/70.
GH> Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
Greg, let's get at least ONE fact correct here. I never *vowed* to post
Davey's adoption paperwork, that's another David Moore strawman. He has
these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I never
did.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>DDM > A perfect example of this was when
>DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
>DDM > paperwork" on me. I met his conditions,
>DDM > calling his bluff, and he ran away.
>
>Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
Prove it. Pangborn RAN from honoring his self imposed obligation
to honor his word and offer the proof. Maybe you'll offer it in his
place.
>Your DOB is 9/26/70.
Prove it.
>Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
Prove it.
>
>That's why you used the nym Dave U. Random!
>David ULANOWSKI Random.
Um, the Dave U. Random nym is assigned to the user by the
remailer, stupid. This was proved a LONG time ago.
>
>How come you didn't set Moe straight when she
>asserted that Tor is for PORN, Dave? LOL
Moe made no such claim. She did state, accurately so, that it is
used by those who exchange child pornography as a means to hide.
This is not the same as the deceptive implication you present that
she has claimed that is the sole purpose of TOR.
Why, exactly, are you so UNABLE to be honest? What is the
SPECIFIC reason?
Serious questions.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:d4407493-8ad8-4a74...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>DDM > A perfect example of this was when
>DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
>DDM > paperwork" on me. I met his conditions,
>DDM > calling his bluff, and he ran away=
>
>GH> Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
>GH> Your DOB is 9/26/70.
>GH> Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
>
>
> Greg, let's get at least ONE fact correct here. I never *vowed* to post
>Davey's adoption paperwork,
You did, however, give your word that you would do so upon his
meeting the conditions you set. He met them and you RAN from your
obligation.
>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I never
>did.
>
You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.
Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY
drunken pathological lies.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
freedom
>DDM > A perfect example of this was when
>DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
>DDM > calling his bluff, and he ran away=3D
>
>Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
No, she isn't.
>Your DOB is 9/26/70.
No, it isn't.
>Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
No, it isn't.
>That's why you used the nym Dave U. Random!
No, I didn't. I've never used the remailer in question.
>David ULANOWSKI Random.
There's no evidence that the U. stands for any such name. Anyone with any
common sense whatsoever, which excludes you, realizes that "Dave U. Random"=
is a generic nym which is attached to all e-mails exiting that particular
remailer, regardless of who authored them.
>
>How come you didn't set Moe straight when she
>asserted that Tor is for PORN, Dave? LOL
Because I wasn't part of the conversation in question, have never used
"Tor" and must confess that I have only a vague understanding of what it
is.
>
>
>http://www.malevolentmoms.info/
This doesn't come up in my browser. Is there perhaps a typo in the URL you=
posted?
>
>Domain ID:D17039630-LRMS
>Domain Name:MALEVOLENTMOMS.INFO
(Snipped remainder of information which has nothing to do with me
whatsoever, and seems to be referencing an abusive female who is completely=
unrelated to anything being discussed)
womanGoddess
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Like you imagine I and others said things WE'VE never have?
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:75r7i55s8j89ba9t9...@4ax.com...
Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names. Partially
because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME. So he did NOT
get it by searching her name. (Which would be stalking of her in any event.)
I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents. I said I would name my
SOURCE. Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
information, he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
names. Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING
my wife! Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
womanGoddess
> "Kent Wills" <compu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:75r7i55s8j89ba9t9...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 12:21:13 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> > wrote:
>
Meanwhile stalker Greg Hanson doesn't get word one from you about
HIS stalking.
Some call that hypocrisy Kennie.
And lets not forget YOUR own stalking behavior regarding Moore and
Sullivan, shall we?
> I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents. I said I would name my
> SOURCE.
Nice evasion. Pathetic but to be expected from you. If you had the
documents you could post them on your now private screened PB web
page. But just as I saw your discharge paper as a later replacement
( which you in an instant of honesty admitted that's what it was) and
not the original, I think you did a CYA act here to avoid actually
being a man of your word.
BTW yous said in one post you had TWO discharge papers. The one you
had was for your regular AF " service". Where's the other one?
>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
> information, he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
> that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
> was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
> names. Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING
> my wife! Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
As opposed to the stalkings you and Greg do, right Kennie?
freedom
>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message=20
>news:d4407493-8ad8-4a74...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>DDM > A perfect example of this was when
>DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
>DDM > paperwork" on me. I met his conditions,
>
>GH> Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
>GH> Your DOB is 9/26/70.
>GH> Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
>
>
t=20
>Davey's adoption paperwork, that's another David Moore strawman. He has=20
>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I neve=
r=20
>did.
You said that you would post it, once I revealed where I got the list of
names in my signature block. This was revealed days ago, and you've failed=
to post the paperwork.
In much the same way, you announced back in July 2000 that you would be
posting my military paperwork, in "7 to 10 days." You have yet to make
good on this as well.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
>
>>That's why you used the nym Dave U. Random!
>
>No, I didn't. I've never used the remailer in question.
>
>>David ULANOWSKI Random.
>
>There's no evidence that the U. stands for any such name. Anyone with any
>common sense whatsoever, which excludes you, realizes that "Dave U. Random"
>is a generic nym which is attached to all e-mails exiting that particular
>remailer, regardless of who authored them.
Greg is well aware of this, but because of his admitted use and
abuse of illegal drugs, he is psychologically UNABLE to admit it.
>
>>
>>How come you didn't set Moe straight when she
>>asserted that Tor is for PORN, Dave? LOL
>
>Because I wasn't part of the conversation in question, have never used
>"Tor" and must confess that I have only a vague understanding of what it
>is.
As I understand it, TOR is very popular with file traders who
wish to hide what they're doing. Especially those who trade kiddy
porn. It's little wonder Greg is all over the topic.
>
>>
>>
>>http://www.malevolentmoms.info/
>
>This doesn't come up in my browser. Is there perhaps a typo in the URL you
>posted?
>
I don't think the domain has existed for a while. Greg is aware
of this, which is why he posts the false DNS information.
>>
>>Domain ID:D17039630-LRMS
>>Domain Name:MALEVOLENTMOMS.INFO
>
>(Snipped remainder of information which has nothing to do with me
>whatsoever, and seems to be referencing an abusive female who is completely>
>unrelated to anything being discussed)
>
Greg LOVES to post information he KNOWS isn't about people as if
it were about them. He'll even do it AFTER he's admitted the
information isn't about them.
--a true story
>
>
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, krp <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:d4407493-8ad8-4a74...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>DDM > A perfect example of this was when
>>DDM > he vowed to post the "adoption
>>DDM > paperwork" on me. I met his conditions,
>>DDM > calling his bluff, and he ran away=3D
>>
>>GH> Your BIRTH Mom is Judith "Dith" ULANOWSKI
>>GH> Your DOB is 9/26/70.
>>GH> Your adoptive name is David Daniel Moore.
>>
>>
>> Greg, let's get at least ONE fact correct here. I never *vowed* to post
>>Davey's adoption paperwork, that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I never
>>did.
>
>You said that you would post it, once I revealed where I got the list of
>names in my signature block. This was revealed days ago, and you've failed
>to post the paperwork.
It was over a week ago. Pangborn has been RUNNING from the
matter ever since, further proving him the dishonorable coward he is.
>
>In much the same way, you announced back in July 2000 that you would be
>posting my military paperwork, in "7 to 10 days." You have yet to make
>good on this as well.
Maybe I'll remind him of that from time to time as well :)
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
he alters the context of posts when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
Kent Wills
wrote:
>>>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I
>>>never
>>>did.
>>>
>>
>> You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.
>> Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
>> that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY
>> drunken pathological lies.
>
>Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names.
He did, and you acknowledged he got them from Facebook.
David met the conditions you set. Now it's time for you to honor
our word and make the proof you claim to have available.
>Partially
>because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME.
Nor did he ever claim it was. He only admitted he got the names
form her Facebook page.
>So he did NOT
>get it by searching her name.
And he's never claimed he did. He only admitted he got the names
from her Facebook page.
> (Which would be stalking of her in any event.)
>I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents.
You claimed you would post the proof.
>I said I would name my
>SOURCE.
Unless you're lying, you'll post the MID and/or Google link to the
post where you stated you would post your source and not post the
proof.
I'm waiting.
>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
>information,
He did. You acknowledged his admission that he got them from
Facebook. You then when on a three day rant about how he got them
from the place he admitted, Facebook.
FYI, I used the same Facebook page to confirm that the pictures
sent to me were of Barbara. It also explained why you RAN from the
thread when I asked you if they were of her back in July.
>he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
>that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
>was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
>names.
Are you claiming he made them up? That he just wrote out random
names and somehow managed to get many of her Facebook friends?
While this is possible, the chances of his doing so are so small
that to make the claim you are trying to make is laughable.
>Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING
>my wife!
Poor picked on Kenneth Robert Pangborn!
>Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
You still need to honor your word. You gave your word that you
would post the proof you claim you have that Moore was adopted. No
amount of your trying to change the subject at hand will alter this
simple truth.
"Miranda was a STUPID WASTE OF TIME AND DID NOTHING!"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting and The A-Team.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names. Partially
>> because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME. So he did NOT
>> get it by searching her name. (Which would be stalking of her in any event.)
>
> Meanwhile stalker Greg Hanson doesn't get word one from you about
>HIS stalking.
The difference is that Greg is so incompetent, he ALWAYS gets the
wrong people.
>
> Some call that hypocrisy Kennie.
>
> And lets not forget YOUR own stalking behavior regarding Moore and
>Sullivan, shall we?
Again, incompetence is their out.
>
>> I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents. I said I would name my
>> SOURCE.
>
> Nice evasion.
It's an outright LIE from Pangborn.
>Pathetic but to be expected from you. If you had the
>documents you could post them on your now private screened PB web
>page. But just as I saw your discharge paper as a later replacement
>( which you in an instant of honesty admitted that's what it was) and
>not the original, I think you did a CYA act here to avoid actually
>being a man of your word.
Pangborn is a dishonorable COWARD.
>
> BTW yous said in one post you had TWO discharge papers. The one you
>had was for your regular AF " service". Where's the other one?
>
Didn't he claim his ex-wife destroyed it?
>
>>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
>> information, he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
>> that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
>> was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
>> names. Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING
>> my wife! Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
>
> As opposed to the stalkings you and Greg do, right Kennie?
In Pangborn's drunken state of mind, incompetent stalking is
acceptable. Finding someone's Facebook page is stalking.
I kind of wish I had one now just so that Ken and/or Greg could
find it and go ape crazy about it.
"And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
fan and GAY lover."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
<_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
womanGoddess
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:12:21 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
The first one yes, That;s why he said he got a replacement copy. The
second one, I presume, is from his reserves stint in the Air Force.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Two discharges
Message from discussion Kennie has anal discharge
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>
> >>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
> >> information, he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
> >> that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
> >> was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
> >> names. Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING
> >> my wife! Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
>
> > As opposed to the stalkings you and Greg do, right Kennie?
>
> In Pangborn's drunken state of mind, incompetent stalking is
> acceptable. Finding someone's Facebook page is stalking.
> I kind of wish I had one now just so that Ken and/or Greg could
> find it and go ape crazy about it.
Well you have it half right. They both are crazy. Apes have better
manners, though.
>
> "And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
> fan and GAY lover."
> Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
> and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
> <_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
Moe
Greegor
level of anomosity toward myself and my family.
You and the gang all posted what you thought
was my home address and phone number, first.
You have fictionalized allegations of child sexual abuse.
Stalking and harassment would be understatements.
Considering all of that, my response has been measured.
File a criminal charge, Maureen!
womanGoddess
Change your diapers greg.
Your act isn't selling.
Greegor
G > level of anomosity toward myself and my family.
G >
G > You and the gang all posted what you thought
G > was my home address and phone number, first.
G >
G > You have fictionalized allegations of child sexual abuse.
G >
G > Stalking and harassment would be understatements.
G >
G > Considering all of that, my response has been measured.
G >
G > File a criminal charge, Maureen!
Moe > Change your diapers greg.
Moe >
Moe > Your act isn't selling.
I have you surrounded.
womanGoddess
And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up onhis FB
page. Its not the actual DD214.
What Kennie showed was what you frame and put up on the frigging
wall. And he damn well knows it.
The ACTUAL DD214 would have the following:
-- Shows his MOS ( IOW his job inthe military)
-- shows years of service
-- shows his geolocation of discharge
And a bit more.
What Kennie showed was a CEREMONIAL certificate.
OC if Kenniepoo tried showing his ACTUAL dd214, he would have to
Photoshop it, and the ( ahem) details of the document would be
difficult to alter without it being noticed.
Here's a web site showing a forged DD214:
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3957
As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't look
at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
And here's a list of what an actual DD214 would have:
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/dd-214.html
The details include:
* Date and place of entry into active duty
* Home address at time of entry
* Date and place of release from active duty
* Home address after separation
* Last duty assignment and rank
* Military job specialty
* Military education
* Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards
* Total creditable service
* Foreign service credited
* Separation information (type of separation, character of
service, authority and reason for separation, separation and
reenlistment eligibility codes)
Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
certificate.
Trying to pull a fast one Kennie?
Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Two discharges
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/...
womanGoddess
And it gets worse. Remember when Kennie claimed he has a "
honorable" discharge?
Seems that you can change your " less than honorable" to "
honorable":
http://www.landscaper.net/discharg.htm#List%20of%20Spin%20Codes
************************
Upgrading Discharges
Over 400,000 veterans who received "less than honorable" discharges
between 1964 and 1973, may be eligible to have them upgraded to
Honorable. (This does not include Dishonorable or Bad Conduct
discharges)
*********************************
Since Kennie left regular service in 1965, he squeaked into the
qualification for the record change.
And then there's the spin codes even with an honorable discharge:
**************************
Introduction to Spin Codes
Even on an Honorable discharge, a "Spin Code" (SPN - Separation
Program Number) can hurt a veteran's chance of being hired by a
prospective employer. These spin codes were put on DD 214 (discharge
papers) from the 1940's through the early 1970's. Veterans can request
a new DD 214 with the spin codes removed.
Examples of a few spin codes:
SPN 258 - Unfitness, multiple reasons
SPN 263 - Bedwetter
SPN 41A - Apathy, lack of interest
SPN 41E - Obesity
SPN 46C - Apathy / Obesity
SPN 463 - Paranoid personality
***************************************
And golly gee some of the spin codes sound a LOT like our Kennie!!
21U Separation for failure to demonstrate adequate potential for
promotion.
28B Unfitness, frequent involvement in incidents of a discreditable
nature with civil or military authorities.
41E Obesity.
46B Sexual deviate.
46C Apathy/obesity.
211 Unsanitary habits
241 Resignation of enlisted personnel on unspecified enlistment in
lieu of resignation for misconduct or inefficiency.
242 Resignation of enlisted personnel on unspecified enlistment for
the good of the service.
246 Discharge for the good of the service.
247 Unsuitability, multiple reasons.
248 Unsuitability.
258 Unfitness, multiple reasons.
257 Unfitness, homosexual acts.
258 Unfitness, ineptitude.
260 Unsuitability, ineptitude.
261 Psychiatric or psychoneurotic disorder.
264 Unsuitability, character and behavioral disorders
265 Unsuitability, character disorder
289 Alcoholism
314 Importance to national health, safety or interest
385 Pathological liars
460 Emotional instability reaction.
461 Inadequate personality.
462 Mental deficiency
463 Paranoid personality.
464 Schizoid personality.
469 Unsuitability.
480 Personality disorder.
Gee, any of those I listed still apply to Kennie?
(( laughing))
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
womanGoddess
Highly unlikely.
womanGoddess
And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd214-sample-form-lg.jpg
Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
And here's a PDF sample DD214 from:
http://www.uscg.mil/RPM/docs/dd_214.pdf
Kennie tried a con, and it failed.
krp
>
>>>>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>>>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I
>>>>never
>>>>did.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.
>>> Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
>>> that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY
>>> drunken pathological lies.
>>
>>Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names.
> He did, and you acknowledged he got them from Facebook.
Well, MAYBE from Facebook itself, BUT the problem for your GAY PAL, is
that he LIED about lots of details. Such as that the account was NEVER in
her own name. There is NO WAY, even STALKING her under her own name (maiden
or married) he could have accessed her facebook account. No matter how, as
Moore's PR man (bullshitter) you can clean up the *FACT* that all of his
comments ARE an ADMISSION to him "STALKING" my wife. You can't clean it up
Wills. No matter how desperately you TRY to spin it and parse language, HE
WAS STALKING HER!
> David met the conditions you set. Now it's time for you to honor
> our word and make the proof you claim to have available.
Nope, not even close, Kunt.
>>Partially because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME.
> Nor did he ever claim it was. He only admitted he got the names
> form her Facebook page.
But not HOW. The poin t is he must make a CLEAR ADMISSION that he has
been franticly STALKING my wife and other family members. A confession of
sorts must be made. Not just an admission by his rationalizations. He's a
PSYCHO STALKER, Wills. That's all there is to it.
>>So he did NOT get it by searching her name.
> And he's never claimed he did. He only admitted he got the names
> from her Facebook page.
Yes he DID claim it, he also claimed that she is now invisible. Not that
THAT will ever slow the sick son of a bitch down. Trying to hide from Moore
is nothting but a brief inconvenience for the asshole. It's funny, I can
tell when somebody is pinging my router. Moore DESPERATELY tries to search
for an open port on my system. Davey's MANIA is often amusing to look at all
his frustated attempts not knowing that the system is OFF and the ports all
closed. I can imagine him pounding the table trying to figure out WHY he
can't get at the ports. I'll let out the secret. The system is OFF, DAVEY!
Can't hit a port when the system has no power.
>>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
>>information,
> He did.
Nope. He only PARTIALLY admitted it was facebook, now HOW or where.
> You acknowledged his admission that he got them from Facebook.
Sort of, Wills, like Moore you are never completely accurate.
> FYI, I used the same Facebook page to confirm that the pictures
> sent to me were of Barbara. It also explained why you RAN from the
> thread when I asked you if they were of her back in July.
Provide the LINK, Wills. The GOOGLE link. Small problem you keep
ignoring, even the facebook page she used mhad NO pictures on it. YOU ARE
LYING AGAIN! Ypu say uyou have them, POST THE LINK TO THEM.
>>he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
>>that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name
>>she
>>was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
>>names.
> Are you claiming he made them up? That he just wrote out random
> names and somehow managed to get many of her Facebook friends?
No, he got the names, just NOT the way he claims. You two are matched
bookend LIARS! No matter HOW you try to clean it up, this discussion IS an
admission of DAVID MOORE that he has been "STALKING" my wife. He continues
to TRY. He isn't admitting to what he is trying to do to some of those
people on his keyword list. He's getting increasingly desperate. Davey gets
panicky whenever his BLACKMAIL isn't getting him pussy! Then he starts to
"butch up" and get all nasty.
krp
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:7e1f84e55725c654...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> You said that you would post it, once I revealed where I got the list of
> names in my signature block. This was revealed days ago, and you've
> failed
> to post the paperwork.
Not accurate in ANY respect, Moore. First I said I would post my
"SOURCE" once you posted where and HOW you got those names. FULL DISCLOSURE,
Davey, not partial. And certainly not FALSE claims, because you did NOT get
it from HER facebook page - because she never had one in HER NAME. It took
considerable STALKING to get it Moore. When you first started posting those
names, SHE didn't have facebook at all. She accessed a friend's facebook
page. LATER she got a page but NEVER under her own name. Not until you FULLY
admit to how you got those names and your INSANE STALKING of her will I post
anything about your adoption. You see I don't have to worry about betraying
a confidence fro one of YOUR family members who hates your guts. You will
NEVER fully admit to your criminal STALKING of my wife. You'll always
provide deniability for yourself. As long as you do, there is NO DEAL.
But regardless of how you try to dance - sane people can see that
basically you have ADMITTED to stalking my wife. Neither you or your buddy
Wills can clean it up. There you are, Calumet City's little FAIRY STALKER.
You're a PERVERT, Moore. Barbara would NEVER waste her time with a little
PANSY like you. Your insane attempts only serve to make her LAUGH at you. I
guess you are used to women laughing AT you, huh Davey? It REALLY pisses you
off when your BLACKMAIL is rejected.
freedom
>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:21:23 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>>>never
>>>>did.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.
>>> Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
>>> that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY
>>> drunken pathological lies.
>>
>
> He did, and you acknowledged he got them from Facebook.
> David met the conditions you set. Now it's time for you to honor
Ken honor his word? That would be a first.
>
>>Partially=20
>>because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME.=20
>
> Nor did he ever claim it was. He only admitted he got the names
>form her Facebook page.
>
>>So he did NOT=20
>>get it by searching her name.
>
> And he's never claimed he did. He only admitted he got the names
>from her Facebook page.
>
>> (Which would be stalking of her in any event.)=20
>>I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents.=20
>
> You claimed you would post the proof.
>
>>I said I would name my=20
>>SOURCE.=20
>
> Unless you're lying, you'll post the MID and/or Google link to the
>post where you stated you would post your source and not post the
>proof.
> I'm waiting.
ROFL.....note Ken's backpedaling, now that his bluff has been called. Now,=
he'll simply make up some fictional "SOURCE" for his lie.
He did the same thing with his "7 to 10 days" lie, years ago when he said
he was going to post my military paperwork. He invented some fictional
"commander" who was sending him the proof. It was fun watching him
backpedal....at one point, he began ranting that he required my
"permission" to post what he claimed was a public record.
>
>>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the=20
>>information,=20
>
> He did. You acknowledged his admission that he got them from
>Facebook. You then when on a three day rant about how he got them
>from the place he admitted, Facebook.
> FYI, I used the same Facebook page to confirm that the pictures
>sent to me were of Barbara. It also explained why you RAN from the
>thread when I asked you if they were of her back in July.
He also made up some silly story about me having installed a "back door" on=
her computer.
>
>>he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but=20
>>that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name s=
he=20
>>was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got thos=
e=20
>>names.=20
>
> Are you claiming he made them up? That he just wrote out random
>names and somehow managed to get many of her Facebook friends?
> While this is possible, the chances of his doing so are so small
>that to make the claim you are trying to make is laughable.
When a Facebook account is set up, by default much of the information is
available to friends only....but the friends list can be seen. Barbara's
was visible....when Ken figured out where I got the names, he either (a)
made Barbara change the security settings or (b) banned her from Facebook
altogether. =20
>
>>Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING=20
>>my wife! =20
>
> Poor picked on Kenneth Robert Pangborn!
Funny how visiting a page on a social networking site (which, by
definition, was put there because the member WANTS people to see it) is
stalking.
>
>>Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
>
> You still need to honor your word. You gave your word that you
>would post the proof you claim you have that Moore was adopted. No
>amount of your trying to change the subject at hand will alter this
>simple truth.
I'll up the stakes (although, as usual, Ken will run away as fast as his
fat little legs can carry him.) If Ken posts this proof, I'll immediately
hand the aboutkenpangborn.com domain over to him. =20
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4hh8i5dnihgar5qvl...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>>>>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I
>>>>>never
>>>>>did.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.
>>>> Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
>>>> that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY
>>>> drunken pathological lies.
>>>
>>>Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names.
>
>> He did, and you acknowledged he got them from Facebook.
>
> Well, MAYBE from Facebook itself, BUT the problem for your GAY PAL,
I understand you have a MASSIVE crush on David. You need to
accept that no matter how often you call him gay, he will not suddenly
become gay and return your sexual desires.
Move on, Ken. Find a local gay bar, if there are any, and try
there. You'll certainly enjoy more luck there than you will
expressing your sexual desire for David Moore on Usenet.
>is
>that he LIED about lots of details.
He stated he got the names from Facebook. He mentioned that even
if one isn't a friend, Facebook shows some of the friends of the
person.
He's given no other details.
>Such as that the account was NEVER in
>her own name.
He's not claimed it was.
>There is NO WAY, even STALKING her under her own name (maiden
>or married) he could have accessed her facebook account.
He didn't claim to have access the account. Only to the page
that lists friends. That's the front page, BTW.
>No matter how, as
>Moore's PR man (bullshitter) you can clean up the *FACT* that all of his
>comments ARE an ADMISSION to him "STALKING" my wife.
Why aren't you seeking criminal charges? You often claim to know
EXACTLY where David lives. If he's done as you claim, and admitted to
it freely, getting him arrested, tried and convicted should be very
easy. Yet you're UNWILLING to even try.
Seems very cowardly to me. Do you really care so little for your
wife?
>You can't clean it up
>Wills. No matter how desperately you TRY to spin it and parse language, HE
>WAS STALKING HER!
So you claim.
This doesn't change the fact that you gave your word that you
would make the proof you claim to possess that David was adopted
available if David stated from where he got the names.
He did so. No proof has been made available.
You PROVED, once again, that you're a coward and a liar. There's
no getting around that.
>
>> David met the conditions you set. Now it's time for you to honor
>> our word and make the proof you claim to have available.
>
> Nope, not even close, Kunt.
>
He did so. You can lie all you want. It only allows me another
chance to further solidify the TRUTH that you're a lying coward.
>>>Partially because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME.
>
>> Nor did he ever claim it was. He only admitted he got the names
>> form her Facebook page.
>
> But not HOW.
You didn't ask how. You stated that you would make the proof you
claim exists available on your photobucket page if he admitted from
where he got the names.
He met your conditions. Moving the goal post now only serves to
further prove you the lying coward you were, are and will forever be.
>The poin t is he must make a CLEAR ADMISSION that he has
>been franticly STALKING my wife and other family members.
Moving the goal post acknowledged.
>A confession of
>sorts must be made. Not just an admission by his rationalizations. He's a
>PSYCHO STALKER, Wills. That's all there is to it.
Your admission that you've been LYING about David's being adopted
accepted. David met the conditions you set. Your adding to them now
serves as absolute PROOF that you lied about the whole matter the
whole time.
Way to go, dumb ass!
>
>>>So he did NOT get it by searching her name.
>
>> And he's never claimed he did. He only admitted he got the names
>> from her Facebook page.
>
> Yes he DID claim it, he also claimed that she is now invisible.
He's made no such claim.
>Not that
>THAT will ever slow the sick son of a bitch down. Trying to hide from Moore
>is nothting but a brief inconvenience for the asshole. It's funny, I can
>tell when somebody is pinging my router.
Anyone with a firewall can do so.
>Moore DESPERATELY tries to search
>for an open port on my system.
Please offer proof, unless I've exposed ANOTHER of your MANY
drunken pathological lies. The choice is yours.
>Davey's MANIA is often amusing to look at all
>his frustated attempts not knowing that the system is OFF and the ports all
>closed.
If the system is off, you wouldn't know that you were being
pinged.
You know less about computing than you do about law, and as your
posts PROVE, what you know about law would fit a thimble with room to
spare.
>I can imagine him pounding the table trying to figure out WHY he
>can't get at the ports. I'll let out the secret. The system is OFF, DAVEY!
>Can't hit a port when the system has no power.
And you can't know you're being pinged, stupid.
You should spend a few seconds thinking through your drunken
lies, Pangborn.
>
>
>>>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
>>>information,
>
>> He did.
>
> Nope. He only PARTIALLY admitted it was facebook, now HOW or where.
You didn't ask for how. You wanted to know where he got the
names. In your NEED to prove you are nothing but a dishonest coward,
you have added to the conditions.
>
>> You acknowledged his admission that he got them from Facebook.
>
> Sort of, Wills, like Moore you are never completely accurate.
I'm 100% accurate on this.
If I were wrong, you would be crying for a Google link or MID,
giving the impression that I was and am wrong.
>
> > FYI, I used the same Facebook page to confirm that the pictures
>> sent to me were of Barbara. It also explained why you RAN from the
>> thread when I asked you if they were of her back in July.
>
> Provide the LINK, Wills. The GOOGLE link. Small problem you keep
>ignoring, even the facebook page she used mhad NO pictures on it.
Other than the picture of your baby elephant.
>YOU ARE
>LYING AGAIN! Ypu say uyou have them, POST THE LINK TO THEM.
How cute. You KNOW I was using X-No-Archive: Yes in July and
since you RAN like the lying coward you are, there isn't even a reply
from you to show.
A nice attempt, but as is so often the case, you make it easy to
expose your deception.
>
>>>he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
>>>that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name
>>>she
>>>was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
>>>names.
>
>> Are you claiming he made them up? That he just wrote out random
>> names and somehow managed to get many of her Facebook friends?
>
> No, he got the names, just NOT the way he claims.
So you LIED when you acknowledged he got them from Facebook?
Why would you lie about that?
>You two are matched
>bookend LIARS! No matter HOW you try to clean it up, this discussion IS an
>admission of DAVID MOORE that he has been "STALKING" my wife.
You may make the claim as often as you want. This doesn't alter
the truth that you're a cowardly liar, as PROVED by your RUNNING from
your obligation to post the proof. You gave your word that you would,
and now you're trying to avoid admitting you've been lying (even
though you already did by default).
>He continues
>to TRY. He isn't admitting to what he is trying to do to some of those
>people on his keyword list.
You've not asked him to.
>He's getting increasingly desperate. Davey gets
>panicky whenever his BLACKMAIL isn't getting him pussy!
How long have you seen yourself as some pussy? You've claimed,
MANY times, that David has tried to blackmail you. If your claim
above is true, you must see yourself as pussy.
Of course, it's possible you have always LIED about his
blackmailing you.
Which is it? I'll accept either answer. And don't run away from
the question like the dishonorable coward you've PROVED yourself to
be.
>Then he starts to
>"butch up" and get all nasty.
>
I've not seen him get nasty. He has always managed to stay
several levels below you in nastiness.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>INACCURATE DAVEY MOORE
>"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
>news:7e1f84e55725c654...@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
>
>> You said that you would post it, once I revealed where I got the list of
>> names in my signature block. This was revealed days ago, and you've
>> failed
>> to post the paperwork.
>
> Not accurate in ANY respect, Moore. First I said I would post my
>"SOURCE"
Liar.
>once you posted where and HOW you got those names.
Liar.
>FULL DISCLOSURE,
>Davey, not partial.
Liar.
>And certainly not FALSE claims, because you did NOT get
>it from HER facebook page -
Then why did you acknowledge that's where he got them?
>because she never had one in HER NAME.
No one has claimed she did. Only that she had one.
>It took
>considerable STALKING to get it Moore.
It took me four minutes. Admittedly, I had the advance knowledge
that she had the page.
>When you first started posting those
>names, SHE didn't have facebook at all.
Why did you LIE and acknowledge he got the names from Facebook if
she didn't have one?
>She accessed a friend's facebook
>page. LATER she got a page but NEVER under her own name. Not until you FULLY
>admit to how you got those names and your INSANE STALKING of her will I post
>anything about your adoption.
Your moving the goal post is accepted as an admission from you
that you have always been lying about David being adopted.
>You see I don't have to worry about betraying
>a confidence fro one of YOUR family members who hates your guts. You will
>NEVER fully admit to your criminal STALKING of my wife. You'll always
>provide deniability for yourself. As long as you do, there is NO DEAL.
You've claimed he's already admitted to the stalking.
Where you lying then, or are you lying now?
Don't run from the question like the coward you really are.
Answer it, please.
>
> But regardless of how you try to dance - sane people can see that
>basically you have ADMITTED to stalking my wife. Neither you or your buddy
>Wills can clean it up.
There is nothing for either of us to clean up. You're the one
who has proved himself a dishonorable coward and pathological liar.
>There you are, Calumet City's little FAIRY STALKER.
He doesn't live in Calumet City. This was proved over a year
ago.
>You're a PERVERT, Moore.
How would you know? Do you have daily contact with his wife?
And yes, he is married. Yes, I do KNOW this for a fact. No, I
won't make the proof available. Believe me or don't.
>Barbara would NEVER waste her time with a little
>PANSY like you. Your insane attempts only serve to make her LAUGH at you. I
>guess you are used to women laughing AT you, huh Davey? It REALLY pisses you
>off when your BLACKMAIL is rejected.
>
What blackmail? Be specific, and offer proof (a win for you),
unless you would rather admit I've just exposed ANOTHER of your MANY
pathological lies (another of your MANY losses).
"Miranda was a STUPID WASTE OF TIME AND DID NOTHING!"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting and The A-Team.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
> And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>
>http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>
>http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd214-sample-form-lg.jpg
>
I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
name to appear before too long.
> Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
>
> And here's a PDF sample DD214 from:
>
>http://www.uscg.mil/RPM/docs/dd_214.pdf
>
> Kennie tried a con, and it failed.
He fails far more often than not. If not for the whole ONE win a
client once had, I could claim he fails all the time.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Maureen, You and the gang have expressed a high
>level of anomosity toward myself and my family.
When has anyone expressed any animosity towards your parents
and/or brother? If you have a sister, no one has even mentioned her.
Care to try a different lie? Maybe one that is at least
plausible?
>
>You and the gang all posted what you thought
>was my home address and phone number, first.
You posted what you claimed was Moe's address long before she
posted yours.
You posted what you claimed was my phone number (even though it
had been proved to be no one's phone number many months before) long
before Moe posted yours.
Do you think Moe's doing to you that which you did to her and
others means she did it first? Are you really so desperate that you
can make such a claim?
>
>You have fictionalized allegations of child sexual abuse.
You made the claim. It may be fictional, but it would be YOUR
fictional story.
Are you claiming you LIED when you said the CPS caseworker made
the allegation that you touched Lisa's little girl's genital area?
Either you lied about the CW's allegation, or you are lying when
you claim Moe made it up. There is no way both can be true.
>
>Stalking and harassment would be understatements.
You think you've done worse?
>
>Considering all of that, my response has been measured.
>
>File a criminal charge, Maureen!
For what? You've managed to get nearly every detail about Moe
wrong. Aside from her full first name, you've not managed to get
anything correct.
Well, the middle name is possible. I don't actually know her
middle name as I've never had cause to find out. The last name is
very close, but that's the extent of my comment on that.
The address is way off. On the plus side, you don't claim she
lives in three different places and that you've proved she lives there
via the phone book. You've done that with me.
You are a failure at stalking just as you are a failure with
everything else you try. You can't even be an acceptable CPS shill
anymore. I was able to expose that con game using your own posts as
proof.
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> > BTW yous said in one post you had TWO discharge papers. The one you
>> >had was for your regular AF " service". Where's the other one?
>>
>> Didn't he claim his ex-wife destroyed it?
>
> The first one yes, That;s why he said he got a replacement copy. The
>second one, I presume, is from his reserves stint in the Air Force.
>
I see the source of my confusion.
I thought you meant his original discharge certificate from the
Air Force.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Two discharges
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.child-protective-services/msg/8c=
>a9e965f63e898c?hl=3Den&dmode=3Dsource
>
>Message from discussion Kennie has anal discharge
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>
>>
>> >>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
>> >> information, he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
>> >> that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
>> >> was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
>> >> names. Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING
>> >> my wife! Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
>>
>> > As opposed to the stalkings you and Greg do, right Kennie?
>>
>> In Pangborn's drunken state of mind, incompetent stalking is
>> acceptable. Finding someone's Facebook page is stalking.
>> I kind of wish I had one now just so that Ken and/or Greg could
>> find it and go ape crazy about it.
>
> Well you have it half right. They both are crazy.
Kenneth Robert Pangborn has even claimed he was found to be
insane. Unless he was lying, a court of proper jurisdiction had to
adjudge him insane.
As far as I know, Greg has never had a hearing, let alone been
ruled insane. However, the persona Greg presents on-line is
consistent with mental illness. Most notably his belief that I am so
many different people (Fregoli) and that I live all over the U.S. and
one place in Canada all at the same time.
>Apes have better
>manners, though.
I do hope Greg and Ken wash their hands after they fling their
poo.
"Greg has some serious deviant behavior. I wouldn't let
him near a child."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, insane drunken (according to his
claims) owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team commenting
about his ONLY on-line friend.
Kent Wills
<gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
>Moe > Change your diapers greg.
>Moe >
>Moe > Your act isn't selling.
>
>I have you surrounded.
Only within the confines of the delusions the use and abuse of
illegal drugs you admit gives you.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:21:23 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>>>>these mental embolisms now and then where he imagines I said things I
>>>>>never
>>>>>did.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.
>>>> Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
>>>> that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY
>>>> drunken pathological lies.
>>>
>>>Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names.
>>
>> He did, and you acknowledged he got them from Facebook.
>> David met the conditions you set. Now it's time for you to honor
>>[y]our word and make the proof you claim to have available.
>
>Ken honor his word? That would be a first.
>
Maybe we should all wish upon a star.
>>
>>>Partially
>>>because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME.
>>
>> Nor did he ever claim it was. He only admitted he got the names
>>form her Facebook page.
>>
>>>So he did NOT
>>>get it by searching her name.
>>
>> And he's never claimed he did. He only admitted he got the names
>>from her Facebook page.
>>
>>> (Which would be stalking of her in any event.)
>>>I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents.
>>
>> You claimed you would post the proof.
>>
>>>I said I would name my
>>>SOURCE.
>>
>> Unless you're lying, you'll post the MID and/or Google link to the
>>post where you stated you would post your source and not post the
>>proof.
>> I'm waiting.
>
>ROFL.....note Ken's backpedaling, now that his bluff has been called. Now,
>he'll simply make up some fictional "SOURCE" for his lie.
No he won't. He'll continue to add conditions so that he can
justify in his mind his refusal to honor his self imposed obligation.
>
>He did the same thing with his "7 to 10 days" lie, years ago when he said
>he was going to post my military paperwork. He invented some fictional
>"commander" who was sending him the proof. It was fun watching him
>backpedal....at one point, he began ranting that he required my
>"permission" to post what he claimed was a public record.
>
According to Google, you granted him the permission. Having the
NEED to prove himself the dishonorable COWARD he was (and is), he
constantly added various lies.
>
>>
>>>Moore must first FULLY and HONESTLY divulge how he got the
>>>information,
>>
>> He did. You acknowledged his admission that he got them from
>>Facebook. You then when on a three day rant about how he got them
>>from the place he admitted, Facebook.
>> FYI, I used the same Facebook page to confirm that the pictures
>>sent to me were of Barbara. It also explained why you RAN from the
>>thread when I asked you if they were of her back in July.
>
>He also made up some silly story about me having installed a "back door" on
>her computer.
>
Did you see the post where he claims he could tell someone was
pinging his system when it was turned off?
>
>>
>>>he could claim he used a FALSE NAME to become a "friend" but
>>>that doesn't work either, because he would have needed to know the name she
>>>was using. There is no even "QUASI" legitimate way he could have got those
>>>names.
>>
>> Are you claiming he made them up? That he just wrote out random
>>names and somehow managed to get many of her Facebook friends?
>> While this is possible, the chances of his doing so are so small
>>that to make the claim you are trying to make is laughable.
>
>When a Facebook account is set up, by default much of the information is
>available to friends only....but the friends list can be seen.
The default picture is also available. Ken claimed Barbara's
picture wasn't ever on FB. When asked to prove his claim to be true,
he RAN. He also RAN when I offered to PROVE her picture was
available.
This is how I was able to confirm the pictures I was sent were of
her.
>Barbara's
>was visible....when Ken figured out where I got the names, he either (a)
>made Barbara change the security settings or (b) banned her from Facebook
>altogether.
He may have threatened to have her deported if she didn't delete
the account. I can't KNOW he did this, but it would be consistent
with his personality.
>
>>
>>>Meanwhile Moore STANDS convicted by his own statements as STALKING=20
>>>my wife! =20
>>
>> Poor picked on Kenneth Robert Pangborn!
>
>Funny how visiting a page on a social networking site (which, by
>definition, was put there because the member WANTS people to see it) is
>stalking.
Pangborn sees that which few others can. I think it's due to his
massive consumption of alcohol, though I admit there can be other
reasons. Only Pangborn can KNOW, and I don't expect he'll ever tell.
>
>
>>
>>>Something for which there is NO excuse. AT least not a SANE one.
>>
>> You still need to honor your word. You gave your word that you
>>would post the proof you claim you have that Moore was adopted. No
>>amount of your trying to change the subject at hand will alter this
>>simple truth.
>
>I'll up the stakes (although, as usual, Ken will run away as fast as his
>fat little legs can carry him.) If Ken posts this proof, I'll immediately
>hand the aboutkenpangborn.com domain over to him.
Watch Ken whine about how he's been UNABLE to prove anything on
the TRUTH site located at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com to be a lie
and that this means you would hand it over to him.
Of course, he may be working on photoshop images, trying to get
them to look official.
The truth will remain that there is no way Ken could have copies
of the records, even if you are adopted. Such records are sealed, and
Ken isn't going to get them opened. Your family isn't going to get
them opened.
Ken needs to admit that which everyone can see: he's been LYING
about the matter from the beginning.
>
>
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
>Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
>Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
>
>
"Maybe he's like me to attach some kiddie porn to aid his fantasies"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, expressing his
fondness for child porn in Message-ID: <RECUi.494$Q%3.238@trnddc04>
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>On Dec 12, 11:42=A0pm, womanGoddess <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 12, 8:07=A0pm, womanGoddess <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 12, 7:41=A0pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:12:21 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>>
>> > > <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > [...]
>>
ally
>> > > >> because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME. So
>> > > >> he did NOT
>> > > >> get it by searching her name. (Which would be stalking of her in
>> > > >> any event.)
>>
>> > > > Meanwhile stalker Greg Hanson doesn't get word one from you about
>> > > >HIS stalking.
>>
gets the
>> > > wrong people.
>>
>> > > > Some call that hypocrisy Kennie.
>>
and
>> > > >Sullivan, shall we?
>>
>> > > =A0 =A0 Again, incompetence is their out.
>>
>> > > >> I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents. I said I
>> > > >> would name my
>> > > >> SOURCE.
>>
>> > > > Nice evasion.
>>
>>
>> > > >Pathetic but to be expected from you. If you had the
>> > > >documents you could post them on your now private screened PB web
>> > > >( which you in an instant of honesty admitted that's what it was) a=
nd
>> > > >not the original, I think you did a CYA act here to avoid actually
>> > > >being a man of your word.
>>
>> > > =A0 =A0 =A0Pangborn is a dishonorable COWARD.
>>
>> > > > BTW yous said in one post you had TWO discharge papers. The one yo=
u
>> > > >had was for your regular AF " service". Where's the other one?
>>
>> > > =A0 =A0 =A0Didn't he claim his ex-wife destroyed it?
>>
>> > =A0The first one yes, That;s why he said he got a replacement copy. Th=
e
>> > second one, I presume, is from his reserves stint in the Air Force.'
>>
>> =A0And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up onhis FB=
>> page. Its not the actual DD214.
>>
>> =A0What Kennie showed was what you frame and put up on the frigging
>> wall. And he damn well knows it.
>>
>> =A0The ACTUAL DD214 would have the following:
>>
>> -- Shows his MOS ( IOW his job inthe military)
>> -- shows years of service
>> -- shows his geolocation of discharge
>>
>> =A0And a bit more.
>>
>> =A0What Kennie showed was a CEREMONIAL certificate.
>>
>> =A0OC if Kenniepoo tried showing his ACTUAL dd214, he would have to
>> Photoshop it, and the ( ahem) details of the document =A0would be
>> difficult to alter without it being noticed.
>>
>> =A0Here's a web site showing a forged DD214:
>>
>> http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3D3957
>>
>> =A0 As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't look=
>> at all like the =A0certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
>>
>> =A0And here's a list of what an actual DD214 would have:
>>
>> http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/dd-214.html
>>
>> =A0The details include:
>> =A0 =A0 * =A0Date and place of entry into active duty
>> =A0 =A0 * Home address at time of entry
>> =A0 =A0 * Date and place of release from active duty
>> =A0 =A0 * Home address after separation
>> =A0 =A0 * Last duty assignment and rank
>> =A0 =A0 * Military job specialty
>> =A0 =A0 * Military education
>> =A0 =A0 * Decorations, medals, badges, citations, and campaign awards
>> =A0 =A0 * Total creditable service
>> =A0 =A0 * Foreign service credited
>> =A0 =A0 * Separation information (type of separation, character of
>> service, authority and reason for separation, separation and
>> reenlistment eligibility codes)
>>
>> =A0 Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
>> certificate.
>>
>> =A0Trying to pull a fast one =A0Kennie?
>>
>> =A0Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
Wow, are there any of them that DON'T? LOL!
Seriously. Are there?
The only thing I can think of is that maybe he wasn't obese back then, and
rather he chunked up over the years?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are=
womanGoddess
wrote:
I listed the ones I thought applied to Kennie. :-D
>
> Seriously. Are there?
Some. Look at the web site I posted.
>
> The only thing I can think of is that maybe he wasn't obese back then, and
> rather he chunked up over the years?
(( Shrugs)) His publicity photos that were online when he was bust
doing the talk show circuit and self-publicity of his : Men's
International" act showed him to be chunky but not obese.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
> attorneys,tampa lawyers,tampa attorneys,trial ...
>
> read more »
womanGoddess
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:33:28 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
>
> [...]
>
> > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>
> >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>
>
> I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
> name to appear before too long.
I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't
work. i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate.
My bet is at best he'll do some shit fit thing to cloud the issue and
avoid actually showing his REAL DD214 without his privacy cover act.
I do like his bullcrap then cower when he's been exposed.
>
> > Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
>
> > And here's a PDF sample DD214 from:
>
> >http://www.uscg.mil/RPM/docs/dd_214.pdf
>
> > Kennie tried a con, and it failed.
>
> He fails far more often than not. If not for the whole ONE win a
> client once had, I could claim he fails all the time.
Kennie doesn't seem to be able to do anything right. It could be a
personality defect where he's somehow programmed in his mind to fail.
His behavior online alone serves to discredit himself. Maybe its a
compulsion to fail.
>
> "And you RULE OUT that it could be MOORE my biggest
> fan and GAY lover."
> Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team, LYING
> and claiming David Moore is his gay lover. Message-ID:
> <_MlOj.598$pH4.7@trnddc06>
Moe
krp
"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
> >> And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up on his FB
> >> page. Its not the actual DD214.
No, It is the DD-256 AF the actual discharge certificate. But continue
your bullshit, Marureen.
DDM> >> As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't
look
DDM> > >> at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
Too bad it wasn't a DD-214 Moore, it was a DD 256 AF.
> >> Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
> >> certificate.
I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
AF. I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
214.
> >> Trying to pull a fast one Kennie?
> >> Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
Fast one? Deception? Well if you think it is a FAKE, Maureen, sinc eit
would be a CRIME to misrepresent service it is your DUTY to report this to
the FBI immediately.
>**************************
> >Introduction to Spin Codes
> >Even on an Honorable discharge, a "Spin Code" (SPN - Separation
> >Program Number) can hurt a veteran's chance of being hired by a
> >prospective employer. These spin codes were put on DD 214 (discharge
> >papers) from the 1940's through the early 1970's. Veterans can request
> >a new DD 214 with the spin codes removed.
> >Examples of a few spin codes:
> >SPN 258 - Unfitness, multiple reasons
> >SPN 263 - Bedwetter
> >SPN 41A - Apathy, lack of interest
> >SPN 41E - Obesity
> >SPN 46C - Apathy / Obesity
> >SPN 463 - Paranoid personality
TRY SDN for Air Force.
MOE> I listed the ones I thought applied to Kennie. :-D
Actually BIMBO try 411 (look it up) and then figure out that your claims
for the past few months about my service have been BULLSHIT. You'd see - IF
you saw my DD-214 that I got out 3 months early because of return from an
OVERSEAS ASSIGNMENT. Now BIMBO all you need to do is get some REAL
information and you might she just how much SHIT is all over your face. Naw,
you'll keep on lying.
krp
> > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>
> >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>
> >http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd21...
>
> I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
> name to appear before too long.
MOE> I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't work.
i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
MOE> actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate. I do like his bullcrap
then cower when he's been exposed.
> > Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
I said it was my DD 256AF discharge certificate. YOU may toss a FIT
demanding my complete personnel file Maureen but you are not going to get it
from me. Write to the personnel center in Missouri.
PAY for a copy. SORRY . . . . You don't like to PAY for legitimate copies,
do you? Maybe Moore can give you a BOOTLEG copy.
freedom
>On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:06:10 +0100, freedom
><about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Kent Wills <comp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:21:23 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>that's another David Moore strawman. He has
>>>>>>never
>>>>>>did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You didn't use the word vow, but you did state you would post it.=
>>>>> Of course your failure to honor your word stands as definitive PROOF
>>>>> that your claim of David having been adopted was another of your MANY=
>>>>> drunken pathological lies.
>>>>
>>>>Also Moore NEVER really admitted HOW he obtained the names.
>>>
>>> He did, and you acknowledged he got them from Facebook.
>>> David met the conditions you set. Now it's time for you to honor
>>>[y]our word and make the proof you claim to have available.
>>
>>Ken honor his word? That would be a first.
>>
>
> Maybe we should all wish upon a star.
>
>>>
>>>>Partially
>>>>because the facebook page in question was never in HER NAME.
>>>
>>> Nor did he ever claim it was. He only admitted he got the names
>>>form her Facebook page.
>>>
>>>>So he did NOT
>>>>get it by searching her name.
>>>
>>> And he's never claimed he did. He only admitted he got the names
>>>from her Facebook page.
>>>
>>>> (Which would be stalking of her in any event.)
>>>>I also did NOT say I would post the actual documents.
>>>
>>> You claimed you would post the proof.
>>>
>>>>I said I would name my
>>>>SOURCE.
>>>
>>> Unless you're lying, you'll post the MID and/or Google link to the
>>>post where you stated you would post your source and not post the
>>>proof.
>>> I'm waiting.
>>
>>ROFL.....note Ken's backpedaling, now that his bluff has been called. No=
w,
>>he'll simply make up some fictional "SOURCE" for his lie.
>
> No he won't. He'll continue to add conditions so that he can
>justify in his mind his refusal to honor his self imposed obligation.
Michael Fiorentino's neighbor Ken has already been ranting up a storm on
this. He is also now changing his story, implying that he doesn't have any=
"paperwork" but rather was "told" something by a fictional "family member"
of mine. (That's known as "hearsay"....shouldn't a legal professional know=
this?)
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are=
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>
> > >> And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up on his FB
> > >> page. Its not the actual DD214.
>
> No, It is the DD-256 AF the actual discharge certificate. But continue
> your bullshit, Marureen.
>
> DDM> >> As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't
> look
> DDM> > >> at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
>
> Too bad it wasn't a DD-214 Moore, it was a DD 256 AF.
>
> > >> Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
> > >> certificate.
>
> I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
> AF. I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
> 214.
The DD214 would prove your claims of having a honorable discharge
with merits Kennie.
You tried showing a certificate as " proof" you were honorably
discharged.
Yup, you tried a deception.
And you're clearly mad I figured it out.
((laughing))
>
> > >> Trying to pull a fast one Kennie?
> > >> Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
>
> Fast one? Deception? Well if you think it is a FAKE, Maureen, sinc eit
> would be a CRIME to misrepresent service it is your DUTY to report this to
> the FBI immediately.
I didn't say the CERTIFICATE Was FAKE Kennie. I said you tried to
pull a fast one by using the wrong paper and pretending that was the
DD214.
Are you now a LAW AUTHORITY Kennie?
(( laughing))
Why don't you for once admit what you did and how you tried a
deception because most people who've never served in the military
would see the difference between a presentation certificate and the
actual DD214, which details the service history and proves ( or
disproves) your claims about your service.
So this is the shit fit evasion response. Thought so!!
>
> >**************************
> > >Introduction to Spin Codes
> > >Even on an Honorable discharge, a "Spin Code" (SPN - Separation
> > >Program Number) can hurt a veteran's chance of being hired by a
> > >prospective employer. These spin codes were put on DD 214 (discharge
> > >papers) from the 1940's through the early 1970's. Veterans can request
> > >a new DD 214 with the spin codes removed.
> > >Examples of a few spin codes:
> > >SPN 258 - Unfitness, multiple reasons
> > >SPN 263 - Bedwetter
> > >SPN 41A - Apathy, lack of interest
> > >SPN 41E - Obesity
> > >SPN 46C - Apathy / Obesity
> > >SPN 463 - Paranoid personality
>
> TRY SDN for Air Force.
>
Try showing YOUR actual DD214.
Prove it. Show your UNprivate DD214 papers.
But you won't do it, because you are a bullshitter.
womanGoddess
> MAUREEN MCALLISTER MILITARY EXPERT"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You made the deception Kennie and I caught you at it.
The whole basis for this is your claim of a honorable discharge with
merits. Your DD214 would show it if you are telling the truth.
Your noise and blather otherwise won't change the fact you tried to
get away with a deception.
You got caught.
womanGoddess
Correction. That should read "would not see"
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
She made no such claim. In fact, Moe pointed out that you
haven't made it available.
Perhaps you're so drunk you think stating one hasn't seen a given
item means they have stated they have?
>
>> >> And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up on his FB
>> >> page. Its not the actual DD214.
>
> No, It is the DD-256 AF the actual discharge certificate. But continue
>your bullshit, Marureen.
>
>DDM> >> As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't
>look
>DDM> > >> at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
>
> Too bad it wasn't a DD-214 Moore, it was a DD 256 AF.
>
Moe and David are not the same person, lush.
>
>> >> Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
>> >> certificate.
>
> I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
>AF. I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
>214.
Oh well.
>
>> >> Trying to pull a fast one Kennie?
>
>> >> Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
>
> Fast one? Deception? Well if you think it is a FAKE, Maureen, sinc eit
>would be a CRIME to misrepresent service it is your DUTY to report this to
>the FBI immediately.
>
You did censor it.
Why did you do so? What was so embarrassing that you couldn't
allow people to see it?
Where has Moe lied? Be specific.
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, accidentally
admitting in misc.legal that he alters posts when he replies.
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
SPN 263 (bed wetting) may not have applied. SPN 257 (homosexual
acts) may or may not. That Pangborn is a homosexual is a truth he
proves frequently, but that doesn't mean he committed any acts while
in the service.
The rest could easily apply to one Kenneth Robert Pangborn.
>
>The only thing I can think of is that maybe he wasn't obese back then, and
>rather he chunked up over the years?
>
That is also possible. However, he's more than simply chunked
up. The man is so massive he can't walk for more than a few steps.
>
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
>Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
>Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Dec 13, 4:25�am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:33:28 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>>
>> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>>
>> >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>>
>> >http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd21...
>>
>> � � �I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
>> name to appear before too long.
>
> I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't
>work. i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
>actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate.
To be fair, he didn't claim it was his DD-214.
>
> My bet is at best he'll do some shit fit thing to cloud the issue and
>avoid actually showing his REAL DD214 without his privacy cover act.
>
He does do that often, but in this case, he may not need to.
I recall he mentioned he was honorably discharged. The
certificate he posted supports his claim. If he said he would post a
copy of his DD-214, I missed the post.
> I do like his bullcrap then cower when he's been exposed.
He does do that frequently.
>
>>
>> > Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
>>
>> > And here's a PDF sample DD214 from:
>>
>> >http://www.uscg.mil/RPM/docs/dd_214.pdf
>>
>> > Kennie tried a con, and it failed.
>>
>> � � �He fails far more often than not. �If not for the whole ONE win a
>> client once had, I could claim he fails all the time.
>
>Kennie doesn't seem to be able to do anything right. It could be a
>personality defect where he's somehow programmed in his mind to fail.
>His behavior online alone serves to discredit himself. Maybe its a
>compulsion to fail.
>
It could be a fear of success. There's no way for any of us to
KNOW this is the case, but it is possible.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can
and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2...@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
Kent Wills
<about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
[...]
>>>ROFL.....note Ken's backpedaling, now that his bluff has been called. Now,
>>>he'll simply make up some fictional "SOURCE" for his lie.
>>
>> No he won't. He'll continue to add conditions so that he can
>>justify in his mind his refusal to honor his self imposed obligation.
>
>Michael Fiorentino's neighbor Ken has already been ranting up a storm on
>this. He is also now changing his story, implying that he doesn't have any
>"paperwork" but rather was "told" something by a fictional "family member"
I've noticed. I presume others have as well.
>of mine. (That's known as "hearsay"....shouldn't a legal professional know
>this?)
What Pangborn knows of law would fit into a thimble, leaving
ample room to spare. Being kind, his legal advice is dangerous.
My comment shouldn't be taken to imply I'm a great legal expert.
Outside of Pangborn's drunken delusions, I'm not. He will claim I am,
of course, since his alcohol induced insanity (unless he lied about
either or both) forces him to do so.
>
>http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
>New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
>Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
>Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
womanGoddess
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:48:44 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>
> She made no such claim. In fact, Moe pointed out that you
> haven't made it available.
Exactly. That's just Kennie's usual attempt to put a red herring lie
into the discussion.
It also shows he doesn't want to actually discuss the subject further
because I nailed him.
> Perhaps you're so drunk you think stating one hasn't seen a given
> item means they have stated they have?
He's drunk and flailing around trying to avoid being cornered.
>
>
>
> >> >> And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up on his FB
> >> >> page. Its not the actual DD214.
>
> > No, It is the DD-256 AF the actual discharge certificate. But continue
> >your bullshit, Marureen.
(( To Kennie))
I never said it WASN'T the DD-256 Kennie.. However the record of your
discharge IS the DD-214 and you damn well know it.
You intentionally tried to pass off the 256 as the 214 and the 214 is
what we've been discussing in the first place.
>
> >DDM> >> As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't
> >look
> >DDM> > >> at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
>
> > Too bad it wasn't a DD-214 Moore, it was a DD 256 AF.
>
> Moe and David are not the same person, lush.
Thanks for the catch. Kennie is so obsessed he sees David in every
post.
>
>
>
> >> >> Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
> >> >> certificate.
>
> > I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
> >AF. I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
> >214.
>
> Oh well.
Aside from the fact that for years Kennie proudly boasted that he
would send a jpeg of his 214 to anyone who asked.
KRP's post of himself
Air Force Serial No. AF-16-631-305
HONORable Discharge March 1965
DD-214
May 1999 he claimed he had is discharge in jpeg
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/8a14c2c6122949a1?hl=en&dmode=source
He knows as well as I do that " discharge" means the DD-214 and the
256 is a ceremonial paper, not the actual legal document.
>
>
>
> >> >> Trying to pull a fast one Kennie?
>
> >> >> Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
>
> > Fast one? Deception? Well if you think it is a FAKE, Maureen, sinc eit
> >would be a CRIME to misrepresent service it is your DUTY to report this to
> >the FBI immediately.
>
> You did censor it.
> Why did you do so? What was so embarrassing that you couldn't
> allow people to see it?
Indeed, He never did so before. Until you revealed that PB notifies
people who signed up for it whatever changes to a user's PB page is
made.
You caught him in yet another lie and he didn't like not realizing
PhotoBucket allows users to keep track of people like him.
(( To Kennie))
Which you won't allow because you know damn well know the 214 would
show in detail your rank and other things. Details that no doubt would
show you've been LYING for years about your actual AF service.
If you've been telling the truth all along, the DD-214 would be
proof.
But if you've been lying from the get go.......
> Now BIMBO all you need to do is get some REAL
> >information and you might she just how much SHIT is all over your face. Naw,
> >you'll keep on lying.
>
> Where has Moe lied? Be specific.
Good luck trying to get that out of him. I'm starting to think that
Kennie thinks because HE lies so much he thinks everyone else lies as
well. Its normal for him so it has to be normal for others in his
twisted little mind.
>
> "Quotes below have been highly altered."
> -- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
> owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, accidentally
> admitting in misc.legal that he alters posts when he replies.
womanGoddess
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:09:51 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
>
>
> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 13, 4:25 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:33:28 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
> >> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> [...]
>
> >> > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>
> >> >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>
> >> >http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd21...
>
> >> I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
> >> name to appear before too long.
>
> > I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't
> >work. i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
> >actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate.
>
> To be fair, he didn't claim it was his DD-214.
It was deliberate on his part. He knew " discharge papers" means the
DD-214. In fact for years he's been claiming he would send a jpeg of
SPECIFICALLY the DD-214 to anyone who emailed him.
He was trying to pull a fast one and I caught him.
>
>
>
> > My bet is at best he'll do some shit fit thing to cloud the issue and
> >avoid actually showing his REAL DD214 without his privacy cover act.
>
> He does do that often, but in this case, he may not need to.
He deliberately did not specify the discharge proof as the DD-214. He
tried to squeak by on presenting the DD-256 and pretending to ignore
that all along the discussion or proof was about the 214.
He claimed meritorious service. The proof would be in the DD-214.
> I recall he mentioned he was honorably discharged. The
> certificate he posted supports his claim. If he said he would post a
> copy of his DD-214, I missed the post.
A certificate he admits is a replacement copy.
>
> > I do like his bullcrap then cower when he's been exposed.
>
> He does do that frequently.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
>
> >> > And here's a PDF sample DD214 from:
>
> >> >http://www.uscg.mil/RPM/docs/dd_214.pdf
>
> >> > Kennie tried a con, and it failed.
>
> >> He fails far more often than not. If not for the whole ONE win a
> >> client once had, I could claim he fails all the time.
>
> >Kennie doesn't seem to be able to do anything right. It could be a
> >personality defect where he's somehow programmed in his mind to fail.
> >His behavior online alone serves to discredit himself. Maybe its a
> >compulsion to fail.
>
> It could be a fear of success. There's no way for any of us to
> KNOW this is the case, but it is possible.
He's a shallow materialistic type. Success would mean increased
income.
>
> "you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
> -- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
> owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
> that David Moore can
> and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
> Message-ID: <n9Sfm.1372$nh2....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
freedom
Michael P Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly,=
Thomas Kelly and Kelly A Mcleod, forged:
>I HATE JEWS. I wish Higler had FINISHED the job in Germany.
Damn, Ken, how many times are you going to post this?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
The truth about Kenneth Pangborn of KRP Consulting, 3648 Cockatoo Drive,
New Port Richey, Florida: neighbor of James Dziewinski, Michael P
Fiorentino, Esther Z Nikkila, Christopher W Kelly, Susan A Kelly, Thomas
Kelly, Kelly A Mcleod
"Carol Ann you don't KNOW shit! Youy are LYING! ...... Jesus Christ you are=
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Dec 13, 2:48�pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:48:44 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > � �So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>>
>> � � �She made no such claim. �In fact, Moe pointed out that you
>> haven't made it available.
>
> Exactly. That's just Kennie's usual attempt to put a red herring lie
>into the discussion.
Actually, it's Pangborn offering more proof that he's a
pathological liar. Not that any was needed.
>
> It also shows he doesn't want to actually discuss the subject further
>because I nailed him.
He often tries to distract from the truth by adding lies. I've
never seen this tactic work for him, but he continues to use it.
Pangborn will leave the thread, since there isn't any hope of his
saving face.
>
>> � � �Perhaps you're so drunk you think stating one hasn't seen a given
>> item means they have stated they have?
>
> He's drunk and flailing around trying to avoid being cornered.
>
And failing, as always.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up on his FB
>> >> >> page. Its not the actual DD214.
>>
>> > � �No, It is the DD-256 AF the actual discharge certificate. But continue
>> >your bullshit, Marureen.
>
>(( To Kennie))
>
> I never said it WASN'T the DD-256 Kennie.. However the record of your
>discharge IS the DD-214 and you damn well know it.
>
> You intentionally tried to pass off the 256 as the 214 and the 214 is
>what we've been discussing in the first place.
>
>>
>> >DDM> >> �As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't
>> >look
>> >DDM> > >> at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
>>
>> > � �Too bad it wasn't a DD-214 Moore, it was a DD 256 AF.
>>
>> � � Moe and David are not the same person, lush.
>
> Thanks for the catch. Kennie is so obsessed he sees David in every
>post.
Pretty much. In Ken's mind, David is everywhere. If not
directly, then via the MASSIVE COALITION FORCE Pangborn's paranoia
forces him to believe is out to get him.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
>> >> >> certificate.
>>
>> > � �I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
>> >AF. �I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
>> >214.
>>
>> � � �Oh well.
>
> Aside from the fact that for years Kennie proudly boasted that he
>would send a jpeg of his 214 to anyone who asked.
He did state that. I had honestly forgot about that.
Note to Ken Pangborn: Please send me an unaltered scan of your
DD-214. You have my E-mail address. In the off chance you don't, the
address with which I post is valid. And your current E-mail address
is not blocked.
>
>KRP's post of himself
>Air Force Serial No. AF-16-631-305
>HONORable Discharge March 1965
>DD-214
>
> May 1999 he claimed he had is discharge in jpeg
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/8a14c2c6122949a1?hl=en&dmode=source
>
> He knows as well as I do that " discharge" means the DD-214 and the
>256 is a ceremonial paper, not the actual legal document.
>
Very true.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> Trying to pull a fast one Kennie?
>>
>> >> >> Did you actually think I wouldn't figure out your deception?
>>
>> > � �Fast one? Deception? Well if you think it is a FAKE, Maureen, sinc eit
>> >would be a CRIME to misrepresent service it is your DUTY to report this to
>> >the FBI immediately.
>>
>> � � �You did censor it.
>> � � �Why did you do so? �What was so embarrassing that you couldn't
>> allow people to see it?
>
> Indeed, He never did so before. Until you revealed that PB notifies
>people who signed up for it whatever changes to a user's PB page is
>made.
Exactly. When I mentioned that I was being informed any time he
changed anything he switched his page to private.
>
> You caught him in yet another lie and he didn't like not realizing
>PhotoBucket allows users to keep track of people like him.
>
It's how I was able to know he had the certificate up for seven
hours as opposed to the 24 he claimed.
We know his rank. At least to a degree. The best he could have
had was Airman 1st class. This is obvious from the information he
made available.
>
> If you've been telling the truth all along, the DD-214 would be
>proof.
>
> But if you've been lying from the get go.......
>
>
>> Now BIMBO all you need to do is get some REAL
>> >information and you might she just how much SHIT is all over your face. Naw,
>> >you'll keep on lying.
>>
>> � � �Where has Moe lied? �Be specific.
>
> Good luck trying to get that out of him.
I know he won't offer anything. That's just one of my preferred
ways of exposing his lies.
>I'm starting to think that
>Kennie thinks because HE lies so much he thinks everyone else lies as
>well. Its normal for him so it has to be normal for others in his
>twisted little mind.
>
It is, I believe, the way his mind is able to come to terms with
his illnesses. His mind operates in such a dishonest way, so he MUST
believe everyone else does as well.
He often has to LIE about the claims and actions of others to try
and justify his view.
>
>Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
>> >> I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
>> >> name to appear before too long.
>>
>> > I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't
>> >work. i am curious as to how he's going =A0to respond to my posts about
>> >actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate.
>>
>> To be fair, he didn't claim it was his DD-214.
>
> It was deliberate on his part. He knew " discharge papers" means the
>DD-214. In fact for years he's been claiming he would send a jpeg of
>SPECIFICALLY the DD-214 to anyone who emailed him.
Not having been in the U.S. military, or having any family members
who have, I presumed the certificate he posted was a discharge paper.
Clearly I was in error. Not the first, nor the last, time for
such.
>
>He was trying to pull a fast one and I caught him.
>
You did.
>>
>>
>>
>> > My bet is at best he'll do some shit fit thing to cloud the issue and
>> >avoid actually showing his REAL DD214 without his privacy cover act.
>>
>> He does do that often, but in this case, he may not need to.
>
> He deliberately did not specify the discharge proof as the DD-214. He
>tried to squeak by on presenting the DD-256 and pretending to ignore
>that all along the discussion or proof was about the 214.
>
> He claimed meritorious service. The proof would be in the DD-214.
>
His making a copy of the DD-214 available, as he can legally do
since it's his, would allow anyone with an interest to see.
>
>> I recall he mentioned he was honorably discharged. The
>> certificate he posted supports his claim. =A0If he said he would post a
>> copy of his DD-214, I missed the post.
>
> A certificate he admits is a replacement copy.
>
At first his claim about his ex destroying the original made
sense to me. And I must admit it is still possible.
When you brought out that one can get the certificate printed
WITHOUT the SPN listed, I started to wonder if this wasn't what really
happened.
I don't expect to ever KNOW where the truth really lies in this.
[...]
>>
>> >> He fails far more often than not. If not for the whole ONE win a
>> >> client once had, I could claim he fails all the time.
>>
>> >Kennie doesn't seem to be able to do anything right. It could be a
>> >personality defect where he's somehow programmed in his mind to fail.
>> >His behavior online alone serves to discredit himself. Maybe its a
>> >compulsion to fail.
>>
>> It could be a fear of success. There's no way for any of us to
>> KNOW this is the case, but it is possible.
>
> He's a shallow materialistic type.
As he PROVED when he bragged about the vehicles he claimed to
have owned.
>Success would mean increased
>income.
He might like that. Most people would.
"YOU ARE INSANE.
"That claim is BULLSHIT!!!!"
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, self admitted alcoholic, insane
owner/operator of KRP Consulting and the A-Team, admitting his claims
that I've been found legally insane are lies.
MID aRcrm.2326$tl3....@nwrddc01.gnilink.net
womanGoddess
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:52:24 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
>
> [...]
>
> >> >> I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
> >> >> name to appear before too long.
>
> >> > I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't
> >> >work. i am curious as to how he's going =A0to respond to my posts about
> >> >actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate.
>
> >> To be fair, he didn't claim it was his DD-214.
>
> > It was deliberate on his part. He knew " discharge papers" means the
> >DD-214. In fact for years he's been claiming he would send a jpeg of
> >SPECIFICALLY the DD-214 to anyone who emailed him.
>
> Not having been in the U.S. military, or having any family members
> who have, I presumed the certificate he posted was a discharge paper.
> Clearly I was in error. Not the first, nor the last, time for
> such.
At first I made the same assumption as you did, until I remembered in
my father's military papers he had a folder of his service record,
which included the DD-214. Looking online for the DD-214 form, I found
and posted details of what should be on that form. Details that
clearly were NOT on the ceremonial certificate Kennie tried to pass
off as proof he served honorably (IOW the DD214)
>
>
>
> >He was trying to pull a fast one and I caught him.
>
> You did.
The sad part of it is that Kennie should have had the smarts to
figure out I would smell a rat onlooking at his jpeg. Which is a good
reason why he posted it only for a fe hours. It was a piss poor sham
he tried to do.
>
>
>
> >> > My bet is at best he'll do some shit fit thing to cloud the issue and
> >> >avoid actually showing his REAL DD214 without his privacy cover act.
>
> >> He does do that often, but in this case, he may not need to.
>
> > He deliberately did not specify the discharge proof as the DD-214. He
> >tried to squeak by on presenting the DD-256 and pretending to ignore
> >that all along the discussion or proof was about the 214.
>
> > He claimed meritorious service. The proof would be in the DD-214.
>
> His making a copy of the DD-214 available, as he can legally do
> since it's his, would allow anyone with an interest to see.
Exactly.
>
>
>
> >> I recall he mentioned he was honorably discharged. The
> >> certificate he posted supports his claim. =A0If he said he would post a
> >> copy of his DD-214, I missed the post.
>
> > A certificate he admits is a replacement copy.
>
> At first his claim about his ex destroying the original made
> sense to me. And I must admit it is still possible.
> When you brought out that one can get the certificate printed
> WITHOUT the SPN listed, I started to wonder if this wasn't what really
> happened.
> I don't expect to ever KNOW where the truth really lies in this.
With Kennie the likely possibility is he's been lying his fat ass off
all along.
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> >> >> He fails far more often than not. If not for the whole ONE win a
> >> >> client once had, I could claim he fails all the time.
>
> >> >Kennie doesn't seem to be able to do anything right. It could be a
> >> >personality defect where he's somehow programmed in his mind to fail.
> >> >His behavior online alone serves to discredit himself. Maybe its a
> >> >compulsion to fail.
>
> >> It could be a fear of success. There's no way for any of us to
> >> KNOW this is the case, but it is possible.
>
> > He's a shallow materialistic type.
>
> As he PROVED when he bragged about the vehicles he claimed to
> have owned.
>
> >Success would mean increased
> >income.
>
> He might like that. Most people would.
>
> "YOU ARE INSANE.
> "That claim is BULLSHIT!!!!"
>
> Kenneth Robert Pangborn, self admitted alcoholic, insane
> owner/operator of KRP Consulting and the A-Team, admitting his claims
> that I've been found legally insane are lies.
> MID aRcrm.2326$tl3.1...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net
womanGoddess
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:44:31 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
>
>
> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 13, 2:48 pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:48:44 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>
> >> She made no such claim. In fact, Moe pointed out that you
> >> haven't made it available.
>
> > Exactly. That's just Kennie's usual attempt to put a red herring lie
> >into the discussion.
>
> Actually, it's Pangborn offering more proof that he's a
> pathological liar. Not that any was needed.
I found this old post of his to be interesting, considering how he's
been dissing my father:
*****************************************
From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: You Bunch of Old Angry Vets
Date: 1998/10/06
Message-ID: <19981005222712...@ng131.aol.com>#1/1
X-Deja-AN: 398125721
References: <6vb1il$9ff$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
X-Admin: n...@aol.com
>From: kelle...@hotmail.com
>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
>You, anonymous, are simply a fucking disgrace to all vets, gen xers,
Legionairs, and VFW members everywhere.
He's just bitter. And the things he SAYS reflect his service. Men
who have
served HONORABLY have great respect for ALL other Veterans and feel a
STRONG
kinship.
I have NEVER heard a disrespectful thing from a vet of WW-2, Korea,
Viet Nam or
Desert Storm who served honorably toward other vets as a group. We may
get on
each other's cases on issues, but not putting down vets of other wars.
SO what the guy SAYS is a tip off. There is ALWAYS a basis for
that kind of
bitterness.
Usually, a poor service record. A square peg
who didn't fit in the military.
******************************************
Kennie's " never heard a disrespectful thing from a vet of... Viet
Nam"?
What a hypocrite! He did that to my father!
Oh and what about him dissing Moore and what he claims is Moore's
service record, which he never answers the challenge to show Moore's
DD-214, ever?
Another post Kennei made later in the thread ironically explains
Kennie's hypocrisy:
***********************
PangK
Oct 6 1998, 1:00 am
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
Date: 1998/10/06
Subject: Re: You Bunch of Old Angry Vets
>From: "Jim Garrett" <jgarr...@nycap.rr.com>
>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
>As a Clinical Psychologist (and a Vietnam Combat Marine), I have a great deal
of respect for anyone in uniform who has placed him or her self in
harms way
when call on to do so by our country.
Well said! And those who speak like "ANONYMOUS" generally do so
because
their bitterness is born in the fact that THEY failed to measure up to
the job.
Rather than face their own failure they attack others!
****************************************
Projection noted.
Here's Moore's rightly angry but well controlled response:
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/8a14c2c6122949a1?hl=e...
> >Know your scum---http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
womanGoddess
>
>
>
> > "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>
> > > >> And here's a little problem with the jpeg Kennie did post up on his FB
> > > >> page. Its not the actual DD214.
>
> > No, It is the DD-256 AF the actual discharge certificate. But continue
> > your bullshit, Marureen.
>
> > DDM> >> As you can see from the two excerpts, this ACTUAL DD214 doesn't
> > look
> > DDM> > >> at all like the certificate Kennie showed claiming was HIS DD214.
>
> > Too bad it wasn't a DD-214 Moore, it was a DD 256 AF.
>
> > > >> Kennie, what you showed was NOT the actual DD214. It was a
> > > >> certificate.
>
> > I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
> > AF. I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
> > 214.
And yet before when you had your AOL account you did reveal at least
two places other than yourself where people could get your DD-214.
**********************
From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
Subject: Re: bill clinton (another Moore forgery)
Date: 1998/09/18
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>From: "Paul A Laird" <palair...@angelfire.com>
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OOoops!! Moore screwed up AGAIN!!!
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ANONYMOUS REMAILER FORGERY!!!!!
>
>While I support you, Pang, in some of your work for men's rights, I cannot
>support condone the cowardice of going Canada because you didn't want to be
>drafted. Mohammed Ali spend time in jail because he didn't want to be
>drafted. I respect him because he stood for his beliefs and paid the price
>for civil disobedience. You, however, turned tail and ran. You didn't want
>to obey the draft laws; but neither did you want to pay the penalty for
>civil disobedience. That is cowardice.
>
>Paul Laird
You know Moore, David or Dennis, whichever name you are using
today, one of
these days you are going to forge a post to the WRONG guy! And then
you'll get
some "career counselling." Yoiu are a pathetic loser and it is little
wonder
why the Mari Corps elected to rid itself of trash like you. You were
and
remain a disgrace to the uniform.
And let's cut the bullshit here. UNLIKE YOU, I served HONORABLY!
*I*
didn't need to whine and go back and beg to have my discharge
UPGRADED! See,
when I served you had to EARN your HONORABLE DISCHARGE! And if your
service
was not up to snuff you did't get one and there was NO whining and
getting a
new one. *I* can look at MY DD 256 and KNOW that it was EARNED!
*I* don't have to bullshit my kids or my wife.
And it isn't hard to verify David. As I said, my DD 214 is on
file at
the Milwaukee county courthouse as well as in St. Louis records
center. *I*,
unlike YOU, have nothing within MY service record to HIDE from.
Nothiing of
which I cannot be extremely proud. My 201 file has commendations that
rise to
the command level of the Air Force. Yours? Well Davey Boy, *I* would
change MY
name too with a record like yours! I'd post anonymously too and forge
posts if
I had YOUR service record.
As I have said before, I have known MANY Marines. You strike me
as a
MARIE!
****************************************
I've been looking at some of your posts of that AOL time period
tonight and I gotta tell you Kennie. you are such a hypocrite it
almost reaches a pathological level.
This thread is interesting regarding Kennie:
As is this one:
Its where you admit you went to Canada to avoid being drafted to Viet
Nam.
And your claim about Moore making "cowardly attacks on women on the
net", a post I laughed at in sarcasm.
And its where you detail how many years you served active and
reserve.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/0d6b4be2e0c24460?dmode=source
********************
I served 4 years active, and 2 years active reserve. HONORABLY! And
with
commendatiosn, some of which went to the Command level. UNLIKE your
service
record Mr. Moore.
Oh, and about all YOU carried was your dick as you RAN off the
battlefield
crying for your MOMMY! Your behavior here speaks for itself Moore,.
Hiding
behind an anonymous remailer. Pretty well shows YOUR service record
all by
itself. Your BEHAVIOR is all the PROOF folks need!
********************
More irony considering Kennie uses remailers and blames it on Moore.
I gotta say this. Four years active and two years reserve? Why such
as short time Kennie?
**************************
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"Honorable under honorable conditions" is not a character of
discharge. It is either "honorable" or "less than honorable under
honorable conditions" There are the other types: general, bad conduct
and dishonorable - but thats not the issue. If your discharge is
"honorable" say just that and nothing else - be proud. If it is
anything other than honorable but "under honorable conditions" you
have nothing to brag about - it's not an honorable discharge. - Hide
quoted text -- Show quoted text -PangK wrote in message
<1998041818401700.OAA08...@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >>From:
nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) >>Newsgroups: milw.general >>Pangborn
also claims to have served in the Air Force. But a check of DoD
>public records shows no record of him ever having served in any of
the Armed >Forces. In my opinion this is a slap in the face to every
man or woman who >ever carried a gun in defense of this country. >
Screw you ya little PUSSY! Air Force SN AF16-631-305, >Date of
entry 3 Mar 1959, Date of discharge 2 Mar, 1965. Type >of discharge:
Honorable under Honorable Conditions." > Shallw e speak of your
LESS than Honorable discharge from the Marines Mr. >Chicken??????????
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"Honorable under honorable conditions" is not a character of
discharge.
It is either "honorable" or "less than honorable under honorable
conditions"
There are the other types: general, bad conduct and dishonorable - but
thats
not the issue.
If your discharge is "honorable" say just that and nothing else - be
proud.
If it is anything other than honorable but "under honorable
conditions" you
have nothing to brag about - it's not an honorable discharge.
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>>From: nob...@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous)
>>Newsgroups: milw.general
>>Pangborn also claims to have served in the Air Force. But a check of DoD
>public records shows no record of him ever having served in any of the
Armed
>Forces. In my opinion this is a slap in the face to every man or woman who
>ever carried a gun in defense of this country.
> Screw you ya little PUSSY! Air Force SN AF16-631-305,
>Date of entry 3 Mar 1959, Date of discharge 2 Mar, 1965. Type
>of discharge: Honorable under Honorable Conditions."
> Shallw e speak of your LESS than Honorable discharge from the Marines
Mr.
>Chicken??????????
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And here's apost where Kennie describes a bit his DD-214:
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/4d3a8e439972385e?dmode=source
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Subject: Re: getting rid of pangk
Date: 1998/04/20
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>From: "3d" <dubin...@execpc.com>
>Newsgroups: milw.general
>"Honorable under honorable conditions" is not a character of discharge. It is
either "honorable" or "less than honorable under honorable conditions"
There
are the other types: general, bad conduct and dishonorable - but thats
not the
issue.
In the era of MY discharge one could get an "Honorable Discharge"
under
GENERAL conditions, usually for medical reasons. I have a freid who
was
discharged for "bet wetting"
and he got one. My original discharge cewrtificate had "HONORABLE
DISCHARGE" in
large printing, and below, it said "served under honorable conditions"
that
language could change back then. I undersatand it is slightly
different today.
>If your discharge is "honorable" say just that and nothing else - be proud. If
it is anything other than honorable but "under honorable conditions"
you have
nothing to brag about - it's not
an honorable discharge.
******************************
From this description alone the jpeg Kennie offered as "proof"
doesn't match. The certificate has " honorable discharge" the same
lettering as his name, and same size.
And how dumb of you to post emails someone sent you that
intelligently ri you apart!
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/59b646bd22ac3b08?dmode=source
"sPangKy!" I might want to use that name for Kennie sometime. :-)
"There is a serious difference between "labeling" someone based on
their
exhibited traits, and "name-calling" using terms like "dimwit" and
"dillweed", simply because you IQ is slightly bigger than your shoe
size
and they come to you easily. "--Discberry
> Stacy started a pissing contest with me on soc.men. First accusing me
> of being M...@lonenet.ca (Michael) and refusing to admit that I wasn't.
Well that's sure a good enough reason to get "spitting mad" ain't it?!
You sure have got an extremely short fuse... another sign of very low
intelligence! --Discberry
Yeah! Right! (Me thinks that you just LOVE the attention she gives
you.
It must make your little pee-pee hard like a ROCK!)
> And IDIOTS like you actually ENCOURAGE the bitch!
I don't think so. I do very little encouraging of Stacy Alexander.
In fact, I find her posts as monotonous and as full of bullshit as all
of your's.
But it is very entertaining to see how mad she can get you and how
crazy
your responses get! That must be because of your Neanderthal
intellect.
It's easy to get a dog foaming-at-the-mouth MAD by poking him with a
stick.... and look how much smarter they are compared to you. --
Discberry
Oh I got it alright, but I believe it went over your flat little head.
"She's a NUT CASE!" Coming from someone as stable as you, that REALLY
means a lot! -- DIscberry
http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/msg/0b2fa338a6011e46?dmode=source
It includes stupid typos and mass
punctuational emphisis, interwoven amongst the psychotic babble of a
raving lunatic.... -- Discberry
Moe
Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
He did.
Given Pangborn's LOW rank upon leaving after six years, and his
attacking vets, we can state Pangborn was a square peg who didn't fit
in the military. And he would have to agree. The standards are his,
after all.
> Oh and what about him dissing Moore and what he claims is Moore's
>service record, which he never answers the challenge to show Moore's
>DD-214, ever?
He often disses Moore based on Moore's time in the Marines.
>
> Another post Kennei made later in the thread ironically explains
>Kennie's hypocrisy:
>
>***********************
>
> PangK
> Oct 6 1998, 1:00 am
>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
>From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
>Date: 1998/10/06
>Subject: Re: You Bunch of Old Angry Vets
>
>
>>From: "Jim Garrett" <jgarr...@nycap.rr.com>
>>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
>>As a Clinical Psychologist (and a Vietnam Combat Marine), I have a great deal
>
>of respect for anyone in uniform who has placed him or her self in
>harms way
>when call on to do so by our country.
>
> Well said! And those who speak like "ANONYMOUS" generally do so
>because
>their bitterness is born in the fact that THEY failed to measure up to
>the job.
>Rather than face their own failure they attack others!
>****************************************
WOW! I don't think I've ever seen Kenneth Robert Pangborn
describe himself so completely and accurately.
Pangborn fails at EVERYTHING he tries. Rather than deal with it,
he attacks others. Mostly those who fit into a minority demographic,
though he is willing to attack those who do not as well.
>
> Projection noted.
>
> Here's Moore's rightly angry but well controlled response:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/5fa41f2161d8a203?hl=en%08a14c2c6122949a1&dmode=source
>
[...]
What's kind of funny, in a very sad way, is how many different
ways Pangborn has claimed David left the Marines. According to Ken,
David was kicked out on a Section 8, for conduct unbecoming, and for
running from the enemy. There may be others, but the point I'm about
to make is proved with those three.
While the multiple claims are enough to show Pangborn was lying
each time, we can add that Pangborn has claimed to be in possession of
a valid copy of David's DD-214, which would list the reason of a less
than honorable discharge.
Odd that if he is in possession, he is UNABLE to remain with one
reason. Anyone get the impression Pangborn exposed another of his
MANY drunken pathological lies all by himself? He does this from time
to time.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
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Kent Wills
<fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
> I've been looking at some of your posts of that AOL time period
>tonight and I gotta tell you Kennie. you are such a hypocrite it
>almost reaches a pathological level.
>
>This thread is interesting regarding Kennie:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/milw.general/browse_frm/thread/7c825f4b64b67=
>f01/2b5840b1f89626eb?q=3DAF-16-631-305#2b5840b1f89626eb
I like how Pangborn PROVES he thought, just as he thinks, David
Moore is the ONLY person who uses an anonymous remailer.
>
> As is this one:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/browse_frm/thread/bc4439477cda0=
>e17/3e0b8d8343b76c2a?q=3Ddd-214#3e0b8d8343b76c2a
>
> Its where you admit you went to Canada to avoid being drafted to Viet
>Nam.
>
> And your claim about Moore making "cowardly attacks on women on the
>net", a post I laughed at in sarcasm.
Pangborn once issued a rape threat against a woman who was
beating him in an on-line argument.
It was, and is, more proof that Pangborn projects his behavior
onto others.
> And its where you detail how many years you served active and
>reserve.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/0d6b4be2e0c24460?dmode=3Dso=
>urce
>
>********************
>
>I served 4 years active, and 2 years active reserve. HONORABLY! And
>with
>commendatiosn, some of which went to the Command level. UNLIKE your
>service
>record Mr. Moore.
Command level?
Is an airman a command level possition? Maybe Pangborn was
drunk when he posted that and intended something other than what he
wrote?
>
> Oh, and about all YOU carried was your dick as you RAN off the
>battlefield
>crying for your MOMMY! Your behavior here speaks for itself Moore,.
>Hiding
>behind an anonymous remailer. Pretty well shows YOUR service record
>all by
>itself. Your BEHAVIOR is all the PROOF folks need!
>
>********************
>
> More irony considering Kennie uses remailers and blames it on Moore.
>
A truth that one can find on the Kenneth Robert Pangborn TRUTH
site, located at http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Not only is the PROOF that Pangborn made use of remailers, there
is PROOF of many other dishonorable actions from Kenneth Robert
Pangborn. The proof consists mostly of Pangborn's own writings with
links to the archived posts on Google whenever available.
> I gotta say this. Four years active and two years reserve? Why such
>as short time Kennie?
[...]
He probably couldn't hack it. Six years and the best he may have
reached was airman first class (and there is reason to doubt he got
above third)?
The guy is, being kind, worthless.
"(CONTEXT REMOVED AS TO THE BELOW CLAIM)"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team accidentally admitting
he alters the context of posts when he replies.
MID FyUom.1363$Jd7....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net
krp
> > > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>
> > >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>
> > >http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd21...
>
> > I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
> > name to appear before too long.
>
> MOE> I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't work.
> i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
> MOE> actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate. I do like his bullcrap
> then cower when he's been exposed.
>
> > > Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
>
> I said it was my DD 256AF discharge certificate. YOU may toss a FIT
> demanding my complete personnel file Maureen but you are not going to get
> it
> from me. Write to the personnel center in Missouri.
> PAY for a copy. SORRY . . . . You don't like to PAY for legitimate copies,
> do you? Maybe Moore can give you a BOOTLEG copy.
MOE> You made the deception Kennie and I caught you at it.
Maureen you constantly THINK you have "CAUGHT" people. I never agreed to
post my DD-214 - I posted my DD-256AF. Are you prepared to claim it is a
FAKE? That's what you are suggesting. Come on McAllister, go that extra
step. IF you believe it is a FAKE then you are OBLIGATED BY LAW to report
it to the FBI. Here BIMBO let me make this VERY SIMPLE for you. The listing
for the FBI office that would cover this area is (727) 461-7055 Can you
figure out how to dial it BIMBO?
OR if you are soo POOR you can't afford a long distance call... (501)
221-9100 The FBI in Little Rock, Arkansas, or (870) 535-4580 Now if those
are Long Distance and you are too POOR to dial them, call 9-1-1 and ask for
the FBI.
Calling your BULLSHIT, McAllister. MAKE THE CALL, IT'S THE LAW. IF, as
you TRY to suggest, (DESPERATELY) that my discharge certificate is "FAKED"
which is a federal felony, then you are OBLIGATED BY LAW to report that
CRIME immediately to the FBI. But we both KNOW that you are full of shit,
McAllister. My bet is that if your DADDY the former chief of Staff of the
Air Force the "ACE" with 23,000 confirmed KILLS in Viet Nam, the 916 Star
General, knew you were making such claims, he'd go down to the hospital and
issue a RECALL on the sperm that made you.
krp
"Kent Wills" <comp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:09:51 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
> <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Dec 13, 4:25 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:33:28 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>>>
>>> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>>>
>>> >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>>>
>>> >http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd21...
>>>
>>> I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
>>> name to appear before too long.
>>
>> I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't
>>work. i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
>>actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate.
>
> To be fair, he didn't claim it was his DD-214.
Moe INSISTS I did! She has PROOF! Or claims she does.
krp
MOE> It was deliberate on his part. He knew " discharge papers" means the
MOE> DD-214. In fact for years he's been claiming he would send a jpeg of
MOE> SPECIFICALLY the DD-214 to anyone who emailed him.
MOE> He was trying to pull a fast one and I caught him.
Is that based on your MANY years that YOU served in the military,
Maureen? I NEVER said I wouldk e-mail my DD-214 to anyone. I see you are
still taking hits on LSD.
MOE> He deliberately did not specify the discharge proof as the DD-214. He
MOE> tried to squeak by on presenting the DD-256 and pretending to ignore
MOE> that all along the discussion or proof was about the 214.
Are yopu saying, based on your years as an Air Force "BRAT" that the
DD-256 is meaningless? That is NOT proof of an HONORABLE DISCHARGE? is that
your CLAIM, McAllister? I mean based on all YOPUR combat experience in the
play pen while your DADDY served?
MOE> A certificate he admits is a replacement copy.
Yes Maureen. Sent to me by the Department of the Air Force. My first
wife destroyed my original after we separated. SO are you saying it is FAKE
or NOIT ytou bloomin BIMBO?
> > I do like his bullcrap then cower when he's been exposed.
> He does do that frequently.
Well again you are claiming it is FAKE. BY LAW you are obligated to
report this to the FBI. Faking military records is a FEDERAL FELONY! MAKE
THE CALL MAUREEN or stand here as a LIAR!
krp
MOE> I never said it WASN'T the DD-256 Kennie.. However the record of your
MOE> discharge IS the DD-214 and you damn well know it.
MOE> You intentionally tried to pass off the 256 as the 214 and the 214 is
MOE> what we've been discussing in the first place.
Maureen you've been taking hits on that LSD for way too long. I said it
was my DD-256AF. I never said it was my DD-214. OR (ask your frigging DADDY)
My Air Force Form 7 which is the REAL service record you frigging BIMBO!!!
krp
> I clearly identified it as a DD 256 AF. It clearly shows it is a DD 256
> AF. I never said it was a DD-214 and you will NOT bait me into posting my
> 214.
MOE> You tried showing a certificate as " proof" you were honorably
MOE> discharged. Yup, you tried a deception.
MOE> And you're clearly mad I figured it out.
And YOU claim the DD-256 does NOT prove an Honorable Discharge. Good
luck selling THAT, Maureen.
krp
MOE> And yet before when you had your AOL account you did reveal at least
MOE> two places other than yourself where people could get your DD-214.
Sure Moe, they can obtain a copy from the military Records office in St.
Louis. The media gets them on people all the time.
womanGoddess
> MAUREEN MCALLISTER MILITARY EXPERT"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:57daf135-6729-4119...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > > > And here's some photos of Vietnam War era DD214s:
>
> > > >http://www.archives.gov/veterans/research/prologue-spotlight-nprc.html
>
> > > >http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/spring/images/dd21...
>
> > > I expect to see some poorly photoshopped versions with David's
> > > name to appear before too long.
>
> > MOE> I think by now Kennie has realized that his little trick didn't work.
> > i am curious as to how he's going to respond to my posts about
> > MOE> actual dd214s versus his frigging certificate. I do like his bullcrap
> > then cower when he's been exposed.
>
> > > > Obviously NOT the certificate Kennie tried to pass off as his DD214.
>
> > I said it was my DD 256AF discharge certificate. YOU may toss a FIT
> > demanding my complete personnel file Maureen but you are not going to get
> > it
> > from me. Write to the personnel center in Missouri.
> > PAY for a copy. SORRY . . . . You don't like to PAY for legitimate copies,
> > do you? Maybe Moore can give you a BOOTLEG copy.
>
> MOE> You made the deception Kennie and I caught you at it.
>
> Maureen you constantly THINK you have "CAUGHT" people. I never agreed to
> post my DD-214 -
Liar.
> I posted my DD-256AF.
PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
knew damn well it was NOT.
> Are you prepared to claim it is a
> FAKE?
I never said it was fake Kennie. What I AM saying is that you tried
a DECEPTION in getting people to think your certificate was the same
as your DD214.
And I proved what an actual DD214 contains. I ALSO showed where YOU
said more than a decade ago you would send your DD214 t o anyone who
emailed you. IOW you already had it scanned in a file.
Since you were willing to share publicly your Dd214, why not now
Kennie?
> That's what you are suggesting. Come on McAllister, go that extra
> step. IF you believe it is a FAKE then you are OBLIGATED BY LAW to report
> it to the FBI. Here BIMBO let me make this VERY SIMPLE for you. The listing
> for the FBI office that would cover this area is (727) 461-7055 Can you
> figure out how to dial it BIMBO?
Stop the bullshit Kennie. I never said your frigging ceremonial
certificate was fake. Nice try to red erring this away, you goddamn
liar.
For YEARS online you've been posturing yourself as this " decorated"
AF serviceman who had an " honorable" discharge. Your DD214 would
detail your rank, your decorations and the status of your discharge.
Which is a real good reason for you to hide it, isn't it Kennie.
You've been on Moore's case for eleven years wth your various
conflicting accounts you CLAIMED about HIS discharge, yet YOU are too
damn chickenshit to show YOUR DD214. You tried posing yourself as this
military authority when time and time again actual examination of your
claims turn out to be your ignorance, your posturing posings and your
outright lies.
What I've been doing is show what a lying hypocrite you actually
are.
The force YOU should be concerned about is your own judgment day and
the dispostion of your soul. Assuming you still have one, that is.
You're a posturing asshole pretending that you know all sorts of
things related to the military as if you served more than two decades
in the military when in fact you served a total of six years active
AND reserves. You made yourself out to be far more than what you
actually were, and that sir, makes you a LIAR.
And I've been using your own words to condemn you and show what a
despicable little asshole you are.
The fact that I got you to make six posts in this thread in such a
short time,all filled with your crap, only confirms I nailed your fat
ass to the wall.
And the fact that a WOMAN revealed your many lies must really gall
you, a misogynist.
So go ahead and make your BS excuses and covering ups by attacking
me. The facts still remain.
>
> OR if you are soo POOR you can't afford a long distance call... (501)
> 221-9100 The FBI in Little Rock, Arkansas, or (870) 535-4580 Now if those
> are Long Distance and you are too POOR to dial them, call 9-1-1 and ask for
> the FBI.
I don't need to Kennie. And I'm not your doggie.
Getting batshit hysterical again? Why would I call the feds on you
for your pathetic little deception?
>
> Calling your BULLSHIT, McAllister. MAKE THE CALL, IT'S THE LAW. IF, as
> you TRY to suggest, (DESPERATELY) that my discharge certificate is "FAKED"
Bad attempt Kennie. Try sticking to the facts for once.
> which is a federal felony, then you are OBLIGATED BY LAW to report that
> CRIME immediately to the FBI. But we both KNOW that you are full of shit,
> McAllister. My bet is that if your DADDY the former chief of Staff of the
> Air Force the "ACE" with 23,000 confirmed KILLS in Viet Nam, the 916 Star
> General, knew you were making such claims, he'd go down to the hospital and
> issue a RECALL on the sperm that made you.
All this from you to avoid actually showing your actual DD214.
Tsk, Tsk...
womanGoddess
Kennie, try being rational for once.
Layoff the booze, cowardly liar.
womanGoddess
> MAUREEN MCALLISTER SPEAKING AS THE COMMANDING GENERAL"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3c536a16-31ae-458f...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> It was deliberate on his part. He knew " discharge papers" means the
> MOE> DD-214. In fact for years he's been claiming he would send a jpeg of
> MOE> SPECIFICALLY the DD-214 to anyone who emailed him.
> MOE> He was trying to pull a fast one and I caught him.
>
> Is that based on your MANY years that YOU served in the military,
> Maureen? I NEVER said I wouldk e-mail my DD-214 to anyone.
I proved you did, Kennie. Way back in 1998.
You just lied-- again.
>I see you are
> still taking hits on LSD.
I never did drugs Kennie.
>
> MOE> He deliberately did not specify the discharge proof as the DD-214. He
> MOE> tried to squeak by on presenting the DD-256 and pretending to ignore
> MOE> that all along the discussion or proof was about the 214.
>
> Are yopu saying, based on your years as an Air Force "BRAT" that the
> DD-256 is meaningless?
I'm saying it is NOT the same as the dd214. It is a ceremonial
document, something you hang on the wall.
You can try that tactic as much as you want Kennie, Your problem
still remains the same. A DD214 would prove your claims about
yourself. But you tried passing off the DD-256 as if it was the same
as the DD-214.
I exposed a few of your many lies Kennie. Your hysterics ironically
benefit me more than you.And you're too stupid to realize it.
>That is NOT proof of an HONORABLE DISCHARGE?
I showed where someone like you could later apply for changing the
discharge category.
>is that
> your CLAIM, McAllister? I mean based on all YOPUR combat experience in the
> play pen while your DADDY served?
Coming from a chickenshit who never SAW actual combat and who hid out
during the Viet Nam years, you sure as hell are hardly credible in
this.
>
> MOE> A certificate he admits is a replacement copy.
>
> Yes Maureen. Sent to me by the Department of the Air Force. My first
> wife destroyed my original after we separated. SO are you saying it is FAKE
> or NOIT ytou bloomin BIMBO?
Show your DD214, Kennie.
>
> > > I do like his bullcrap then cower when he's been exposed.
> > He does do that frequently.
>
> Well again you are claiming it is FAKE. BY LAW you are obligated to
> report this to the FBI. Faking military records is a FEDERAL FELONY! MAKE
> THE CALL MAUREEN or stand here as a LIAR!
I don't need to, By now you pretty much " George Fox" -ed your
credibility way up your ponderous behind.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Personal attacks on me noted and ignored..
Then show your DD-214 Kennie
All your noise and blustering about this isn't proving your claims
about yourself.
And this is all about your claims about yourself regarding your AF
service Kennie.
So far you've been saying nothing but lies.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
The DD-256 is proof sometimes only of condition of discharge but is
not DEFINITIVE in any way.
AAMOF a few VFW Posts won't accept your 256 as adequate proof.
http://www.angelfire.com/md/post263/#ELIGIBILITY
You're hiding your condtion of service in the military. And doing a
piss poor job of it as well.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Liar.
The only way the medic can get one is if the person named on the
Dd214 either gives it to them directly through their own
intermediary.
You forgot that John Kerry tried hiding HIS DD214 for a long time.
Here, maybe thi link will help you stick to the facts for once:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=obtaining++someone%27s+dd214&form=OSDSRC
womanGoddess
> On Dec 14, 7:05 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:c5b11445-68bc-4a02...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > MOE> And yet before when you had your AOL account you did reveal at least
> > MOE> two places other than yourself where people could get your DD-214.
>
> > Sure Moe, they can obtain a copy from the military Records office in St.
> > Louis. The media gets them on people all the time.
>
> Liar.
> Dd214 either gives it to them directly through their own
> intermediary.
typo corrected.
freedom
>On Dec 13, 8:08=A0pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:44:31 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>>
>>
>>
>> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:48:44 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
om...
>>
>> >> > =A0 =A0So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>>
>> >> =A0 =A0 =A0She made no such claim. =A0In fact, Moe pointed out that y=
ou
>> >> haven't made it available.
>>
>> > Exactly. That's just Kennie's usual attempt to put a red herring lie
>> >into the discussion.
>>
>> pathological liar. =A0Not that any was needed.
>
> I found this old post of his to be interesting, considering how he's
>been dissing my father:
>
8a
>14c2c6122949a1&dmode=3Dsource
He knows nothing about my service record, other than the branch I served
in. =20
>
> Another post Kennei made later in the thread ironically explains
>Kennie's hypocrisy:
>
>***********************
>
> PangK
> Oct 6 1998, 1:00 am
>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
>From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
>Date: 1998/10/06
>Subject: Re: You Bunch of Old Angry Vets
>
>
>>From: "Jim Garrett" <jgarr...@nycap.rr.com>
>>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
>>As a Clinical Psychologist (and a Vietnam Combat Marine), I have a great =
deal
>
>of respect for anyone in uniform who has placed him or her self in
>harms way
>when call on to do so by our country.
>
> Well said! And those who speak like "ANONYMOUS" generally do so
>because
>their bitterness is born in the fact that THEY failed to measure up to
>the job.
>Rather than face their own failure they attack others!
>****************************************
>
> Projection noted.
>
> Here's Moore's rightly angry but well controlled response:
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/5fa41f2161d8a203?hl=3Den%0=
8a
>14c2c6122949a1&dmode=3Dsource
This is also where he stated that my middle name was "Dennis," and that he
obtained this from my official records. (He now claims my middle name is
"Daniel," and that he obtained this from official records. FWIW neither
middle name is correct.)
womanGoddess
<aboutKRP...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, womanGoddess <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 13, 8:08=A0pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:44:31 -0800 (PST), womanGoddess
>
> >> <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >On Dec 13, 2:48=A0pm, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 08:48:44 -0500, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com>
> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >"womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:e60841f4-e565-4184...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.c=
> om...
>
> >> >> > =A0 =A0So NOW you claim to have seen my DD-214, Maureen?
>
> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0She made no such claim. =A0In fact, Moe pointed out that y=
> ou
> >> >> haven't made it available.
>
> >> > Exactly. That's just Kennie's usual attempt to put a red herring lie
> >> >into the discussion.
>
> >> =A0 =A0 =A0Actually, it's Pangborn offering more proof that he's a
> >> pathological liar. =A0Not that any was needed.
>
> > I found this old post of his to be interesting, considering how he's
> >been dissing my father:
>
what I have told. That doesn't stop him from dissing my father.
His claims are so weak that even I can see his lies.
That obese, misogynistic hypocrite has lied so much ( born false
witness) that it has to be compulsive for him. I really don't see any
other reason for his behavior. Other than he's one of those humans
that has ho soul, that is.
I think that if there is an afterlife and judgment of humans, Kennie
is not going to fare very well.
Moe
Eternal FOREVER KNIGHT fan
" A vampire cop? REALLY?"
"http://home.earthlink.net/~19ranger57/blies.htm
Know your scum--- http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Another post Kennei made later in the thread ironically explains
> >Kennie's hypocrisy:
>
> >***********************
>
> > PangK
> > Oct 6 1998, 1:00 am
> >Newsgroups: soc.veterans
> >From: pa...@aol.com (PangK)
> >Date: 1998/10/06
> >Subject: Re: You Bunch of Old Angry Vets
>
> >>From: "Jim Garrett" <jgarr...@nycap.rr.com>
> >>Newsgroups: soc.veterans
> >>As a Clinical Psychologist (and a Vietnam Combat Marine), I have a great =
> deal
>
> >of respect for anyone in uniform who has placed him or her self in
> >harms way
> >when call on to do so by our country.
>
> > Well said! And those who speak like "ANONYMOUS" generally do so
> >because
> >their bitterness is born in the fact that THEY failed to measure up to
> >the job.
> >Rather than face their own failure they attack others!
> >****************************************
>
> > Projection noted.
>
> > Here's Moore's rightly angry but well controlled response:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.veterans/msg/5fa41f2161d8a203?hl=3...
krp
> I posted my DD-256AF.
MOE> PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
MOE> knew damn well it was NOT.
It is PROOF of my "HONORAbLE DISCHARGE" from the Air Force Maureen.
Which was my claim. You are IDIOT enough to try to bring into THIS
discussion a comment I made a decade ago AS IF I made it yesterday.
krp
MOE> You can try that tactic as much as you want Kennie, Your problem
MOE> still remains the same. A DD214 would prove your claims about
MOE> yourself. But you tried passing off the DD-256 as if it was the same
MOE> as the DD-214.
The issue at hand was/is the question of whether or not I was "HONORABLY
DISCHARGED" from the Air Force. The DD 256AF proves I was. I NEVER confused
it with my DD-217 or Air Force form 7, YOU have desperately TRIED to do
that. AND FAILED MISERABLY!
krp
> I posted my DD-256AF.
MOE> PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
MOE> knew damn well it was NOT.
Nope yopu are a LIAR!
> Are you prepared to claim it is a FAKE?
MOE> I never said it was fake Kennie. What I AM saying is that you tried
MOE> a DECEPTION in getting people to think your certificate was the same
MOE> as your DD214.
I never mentioned my DD-214. I clearly identified it as what it IS. My
DD-256 AF. YOU are the LIAR here DESPERATELY TRYING to claim I did say it
was my 214.
krp
On Dec 14, 6:59 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e1ca7f9f-7d81-4f93...@s20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> I never said it WASN'T the DD-256 Kennie.. However the record of your
> MOE> discharge IS the DD-214 and you damn well know it.
> MOE> You intentionally tried to pass off the 256 as the 214 and the 214 is
> MOE> what we've been discussing in the first place.
>
> Maureen you've been taking hits on that LSD for way too long. I said it
> was my DD-256AF. I never said it was my DD-214. OR (ask your frigging
> DADDY)
> My Air Force Form 7 which is the REAL service record you frigging BIMBO!!!
MOE> Then show your DD-214 Kennie
So you can MISREPRESENT THAT TOO?
krp
On Dec 14, 7:05 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c5b11445-68bc-4a02...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> MOE> And yet before when you had your AOL account you did reveal at least
> MOE> two places other than yourself where people could get your DD-214.
>
> Sure Moe, they can obtain a copy from the military Records office in St.
> Louis. The media gets them on people all the time.
MOE> The only way the medic can get one is if the person named on the
MOE> Dd214 either gives it to them directly through their own
MOE> intermediary.
AS ALWAYS, McAllister you are a LIAR.. Here is what YOUR OWN SOURCE
SAYS...
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/78192862/m/7340078070001
It ' s official, DD-214's are NOW Online.
The National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) has provided the following
website for veterans to gain access to their DD-214s online:
http://vetrecs.archives.gov/ This may be particularly helpful when a veteran
needs a copy of his DD-214 for employment purposes. NPRC is working to make
it easier for veterans with computers and Internet access to obtain copies
of documents from their military files. Military veterans and the next of
kin of deceased former military members may now use a new online military
personnel records system to request documents.**** Other individuals with a
need for documents must still complete the Standard Form 180, which can be
downloaded from the online web site. *** Because the requester will be asked
to supply all information essential for NPRC to process the request, delays
tha normally occur when NPRC has to ask veterans for additional information
will be minimized. The new web-based application was designed to provide
better service on these requests by eliminating the records center's
mailroom processing time.
Want to keep on LYING BIMBO?
womanGoddess
Liar wrote:
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Really? So between THEN and NOW all of a sudden your military records
morphed from the DD 214 to the DD 256?
(( derisive snort))
Your pathetic attempt to avoid the FACTS noted. The DD214 is proof
positive of your service record Kennie. The DD-256 image can be easily
altered. The DD-214 scanned image CAN'T be easily altered.
You tried to pull a fast one Kennie. And it didn't work.
If the 256 was proof enough, the Milwaukee courthouse where you
claimed you registered your service record would have accepted the
256. They didn't accept it. They accepted as proof the 214.
I'm going by YOUR OWN WORDS Kennie. Words you apparently forgot.
See, there's the problem with compulsive liars like you. You can't
keep track of your lies.
But DO continue making all those posts to me about this. You must be
one busy Jabba pounding away at your keyboard of late.
And poor widdle greggie can't help you in this.
womanGoddess
wrote:
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
The Dd214 is irrefutabe proof of your discharge and the details of
your military service. If the 256 was enough, you would not have been
bragging about getting the 214 on Moore in all these years. Unless
you wish to confess that you lied about that as well.
The 256 can be easily altered. The 214 can't be easily altered.
You want people to believe you were honorably discharged with merits?
Fine. Post your Dd-214.
Unless OC you've been lying all along.....
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7103fe20-97f6-48f1...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I posted my DD-256AF.
>
> MOE> PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
> MOE> knew damn well it was NOT.
>
> Nope yopu are a LIAR!
Check your spelling.
You know you tried passing off the 256 as if it was your discharge
record. It was a certificate, not the legitimate record of your
service.
Your squealing now won't change the fact that you got caught.
How many times shall I go over this with you? Ten? A hundred.
I posted links to prove my points. Where's yours?
>
> > Are you prepared to claim it is a FAKE?
>
> MOE> I never said it was fake Kennie. What I AM saying is that you tried
> MOE> a DECEPTION in getting people to think your certificate was the same
> MOE> as your DD214.
>
> I never mentioned my DD-214. I clearly identified it as what it IS. My
> DD-256 AF. YOU are the LIAR here DESPERATELY TRYING to claim I did say it
> was my 214.
You thought that the ignorance of the specific military paperwork
would allow your deceit to go by unnoticed. Too bad for you I figured
it out.
You can resolve all this by posting your Dd-214 in an OPEN web site
for a week and posting the URL at the start of the time period.
But you won't do that.. And we both know why.
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:85fe1a51-22dc-4cb9...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 6:59 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e1ca7f9f-7d81-4f93...@s20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > MOE> I never said it WASN'T the DD-256 Kennie.. However the record of your
> > MOE> discharge IS the DD-214 and you damn well know it.
> > MOE> You intentionally tried to pass off the 256 as the 214 and the 214 is
> > MOE> what we've been discussing in the first place.
>
> > Maureen you've been taking hits on that LSD for way too long. I said it
> > was my DD-256AF. I never said it was my DD-214. OR (ask your frigging
> > DADDY)
> > My Air Force Form 7 which is the REAL service record you frigging BIMBO!!!
>
> MOE> Then show your DD-214 Kennie
>
> So you can MISREPRESENT THAT TOO?
If you posted a scan of your Dd-214, how could _I_ misrepresent it?
It would be credible proof of your claims.
However, as I showed in one of the links I posted, a faked Dd-214 is
difficult to pass off as legit.
Is there some reason why you can't show your Dd-214 Kennie?
(( smirking))
The issue is your service record as compared to the claims you've made
about your service. A dd-214 would prove your claims if you've been
telling the truth all along.
Eleven years ago you were willing to show anyone who emails you a
copy of your DD214 ( You SPECIFICALLY then referred to the DD-214).
But now you don't want to.
What changed since then?
womanGoddess
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d8e27073-1725-46b5...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 14, 7:05 am, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:c5b11445-68bc-4a02...@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > MOE> And yet before when you had your AOL account you did reveal at least
> > MOE> two places other than yourself where people could get your DD-214.
>
> > Sure Moe, they can obtain a copy from the military Records office in St.
> > Louis. The media gets them on people all the time.
>
> MOE> The only way the medic can get one is if the person named on the
> MOE> Dd214 either gives it to them directly through their own
> MOE> intermediary.
>
> AS ALWAYS, McAllister you are a LIAR.. Here is what YOUR OWN SOURCE
> SAYS...
>
> http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/78192862/m/7340078070001
>
> It ' s official, DD-214's are NOW Online.
> The National Personnel Records Center (NPRC) has provided the following
> needs a copy of his DD-214 for employment purposes. NPRC is working to make
> it easier for veterans with computers and Internet access to obtain copies
> of documents from their military files. Military veterans and the next of
> kin of deceased former military members may now use a new online military
> personnel records system to request documents.**** Other individuals with a
> need for documents must still complete the Standard Form 180, which can be
> downloaded from the online web site. *** Because the requester will be asked
> to supply all information essential for NPRC to process the request, delays
> tha normally occur when NPRC has to ask veterans for additional information
> will be minimized. The new web-based application was designed to provide
> better service on these requests by eliminating the records center's
> mailroom processing time.
>
> Want to keep on LYING BIMBO?
That is for veterans themselves to get a copy. The DD-214s are not
for anyone to get copies Kennie.
I told you this months ago the LEGAL ways to get DD-214s. Way back
when you were boasting you got Moore's DD-214 " legally". None of
those criteria supported your claims.
Try again Kennie. Maybe your next flailing bullshit excuse will work.
Or maybe not. :-D
krp
On Dec 14, 3:52 pm, "krp" <kr...@tampabay.rr.com> AKA Batshit Crazy
Liar wrote:
> "womanGoddess" <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7103fe20-97f6-48f1...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I posted my DD-256AF.
>
> MOE> PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
> MOE> knew damn well it was NOT.
>
> It is PROOF of my "HONORAbLE DISCHARGE" from the Air Force Maureen.
> Which was my claim. You are IDIOT enough to try to bring into THIS
> discussion a comment I made a decade ago AS IF I made it yesterday.
Really? So between THEN and NOW all of a sudden your military records
morphed from the DD 214 to the DD 256?
Never morphed within THIS conversation - LIAR!!
krp
MOE> That is for veterans themselves to get a copy. The DD-214s are not
MOE> for anyone to get copies Kennie.
Can you READ Blondie? I know you have trouble understanding what you
read. Have somebody with an IQ over 50 explain this to you:
***Other individuals with a need for documents must still complete the
Standard Form 180, which can be downloaded from the online web site. ***
Need? PRETEND to be a JOURNALIST Maureen, you and your retarded pals
have NO trouble LYING to get what you want. Maybe Kim can "PLAY" them.
Greegor
not
MOE> for anyone to get copies Kennie.
KRP > Can you READ Blondie? I know you have trouble
KRP > understanding what you read. Have somebody
KRP > with an IQ over 50 explain this to you:
***Other individuals with a need for documents must still complete
the
Standard Form 180, which can be downloaded from the online web site.
***
KRP > Need? PRETEND to be a JOURNALIST Maureen,
KRP > you and your retarded pals have NO trouble
KRP > LYING to get what you want. Maybe Kim
KRP > can "PLAY" them.
Davey can show his fake press pass over the phone and
insist that it's his Constitutional Right to the documents!
Kent Wills
wrote:
If you make a scan of it available, there is no way anyone can
misrepresent it.
"you are reading Moore's SELECTIVE material that is HIGHLY edited."
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team claiming in misc.legal
that David Moore can and does edit Google's Usenet archive.
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Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7103fe20-97f6-48f1...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>> I posted my DD-256AF.
>
>MOE> PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
>MOE> knew damn well it was NOT.
>
> It is PROOF of my "HONORAbLE DISCHARGE" from the Air Force Maureen.
No, it's *evidence* of an Honorable discharge, not *proof* of
one. I would expect a trial consultant to know the difference.
It's little wonder no one is hiring the services of Kenneth
Robert Pangborn of KRP CONsulting. What you know of law would fit
within a thimble, with ample room to spare.
>Which was my claim.
So you've been lying all along, or you're so drunk you really
don't know the difference between evidence and proof.
>You are IDIOT enough to try to bring into THIS
>discussion a comment I made a decade ago AS IF I made it yesterday.
>
Whereas she included a link to the post on Google, she couldn't
have tried to present it as if the claim were made yesterday.
"Quotes below have been highly altered."
-- -- Kenneth Robert Pangborn, alcoholic (according to him)
owner/operator of KRP CONsulting and The A-Team, accidentally
admitting in misc.legal that he alters posts when he replies.
Kent Wills
wrote:
>
>"womanGoddess" <fvr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:7103fe20-97f6-48f1...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> I posted my DD-256AF.
>
>MOE> PRETENDING deliberately that it was your discharge record when you
>MOE> knew damn well it was NOT.
>
> Nope yopu are a LIAR!
You really didn't know? Oh my!
>
>
>> Are you prepared to claim it is a FAKE?
>
>MOE> I never said it was fake Kennie. What I AM saying is that you tried
>MOE> a DECEPTION in getting people to think your certificate was the same
>MOE> as your DD214.
>
> I never mentioned my DD-214. I clearly identified it as what it IS. My
>DD-256 AF. YOU are the LIAR here DESPERATELY TRYING to claim I did say it
>was my 214.
>
You did try to play it as if they were equal. There's no way for
you to avoid that truth.
"I am insane!"
--Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-team,
posting to alt.dads-rights.unmoderated claiming that he was found
legally insane.
krp
"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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MOE> That is for veterans themselves to get a copy. The DD-214s are
not
MOE> for anyone to get copies Kennie.
KRP > Can you READ Blondie? I know you have trouble
KRP > understanding what you read. Have somebody
KRP > with an IQ over 50 explain this to you:
***Other individuals with a need for documents must still complete
the
Standard Form 180, which can be downloaded from the online web site.
***
KRP > Need? PRETEND to be a JOURNALIST Maureen,
KRP > you and your retarded pals have NO trouble
KRP > LYING to get what you want. Maybe Kim
KRP > can "PLAY" them.
GH> Davey can show his fake press pass over the phone and
GH> insist that it's his Constitutional Right to the documents!
He can be a "STRINGER REPORTER" for UPI. After all he DOES have a track
record at the JOB!