Jews are NOT Entitled to Israel in Present Days-- So Proves the Scripture!! V2.0 T_0801
Doc Tavish
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.lutheran/msg/e9d70a173ca03a3f?fwc=1
Subject: Old Covenant Vs New -- New Covenant Replaces Old Covenant (Jews NO
Longer God's Chosen People & Entitled to "Israel" So Says the Scripture!)
Message-ID: <qf7acvoa8hfn3bi2f...@4ax.com>
Subject: G-d's Will - Jews No Longer OWN The Land Israel
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 16:27:25 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.french/msg/b6da03ba4867e718
Message-ID: <8spro...@news2.newsguy.com>
(Excerpt)
On 31-May-1999, dlt...@ix.netcom.com (dltjxx) "Debora" wrote:
> From: dlt...@ix.netcom.com (dltjxx)
> Subject: Re: Jews Go Home!
> Date: 31 May 1999 07:29:47 GMT
> Organization: Netcom
:
> >Susan Cohen <ze...@smart.nett> wrote:
> >>We are home. You're the invader.
> >
> >Stop the illusions. Go back to Krakow. It's our land. Forever.
> >The invadors are you jewish fanatics who invaded OUR land in 1948.
> >I wish those ships sank before they reached Yafa.
> >Hani
>
> Please specify how the half million Jews resident in Israel in 1948 are
> invaders of the land given to them.
Who gave "Jews" the land in 1948? If you say G-d then you are wrong! G-d
has thoroughly dispossessed you of the land that you claim as YOURS. The
Temple being in ruins for nearly two thousand years is tantamount to the
fact as spoken:
THE TEMPLE INUAGURATION AND GOD'S STATEMENT
1 Kings 9:3-9 (English-RSV):
3 And the LORD said to him [King Solomon], "I have heard your prayer and
your supplication, which you have made before me; I have
consecrated this house which you have built, and put my name there for
ever; my eyes and my heart will be there for all time.
4 And as for you, if you will walk before me, as David your father walked,
with integrity of heart and uprightness, doing according to all that I
have commanded you, and keeping my statutes and my
ordinances,
5 then I will establish your royal throne over Israel for ever, as I
promised David your father, saying, 'There shall not fail you a man upon
the throne of Israel.'
6 But if you turn aside from following me, you or your children, and do
not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but
go and serve other gods and worship them,
7 then I will cut off Israel from the land which I have given them; and
the house which I have consecrated for my name I will cast out of my
sight; and Israel will become a proverb and a byword among all peoples.
8 And this house will become a heap of ruins; everyone passing by it will
be astonished, and will hiss; and they will say, 'Why has the LORD done
thus to this land and to this house?'
9 Then they will say, 'Because they forsook the LORD their God who brought
their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and
worshiped them and served them; therefore the LORD has brought all this
evil upon them.'"
Here is Jesus foretelling of the current temple destruction and the
casting of the Jews who presumed to still have G-d's approval:
Matthew 21:33-46 (English-RSV)
33 [Jesus said] "Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted
a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and
built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into
another country.
34 When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the
tenants, to get his fruit;
35 and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and
stoned another.
36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the
same to them.
37 Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, 'They will respect my son.'
38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, 'This is the
heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.'
39 And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40
When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those
tenants?"
41 They said to him, "He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and
let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in
their seasons."
42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very
stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this
was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes'?
43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and
given to a nation producing the fruits of it."
44 _
45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they
perceived that he was speaking about them.
46 But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because
they held him to be a prophet.
[...]
God destroyed the Temple and drove Jews out from Israel almost 2000 years
ago! Was it God or was it man's doing that Israel be made a State in 1948?
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Consider this:
http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00hb0
(Link still active May 16, 2003 and saved locally as: MFAH00hb0)
"THE DECLARATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL May 14, 1948
On May 14, 1948, on the day in which the British Mandate over a Palestine
expired, the Jewish People's Council gathered at the Tel Aviv Museum, and
approved the following proclamation, declaring the establishment of the
State of Israel. The new state was recognized that night at 11:00 AM
Israel time by the United States and three days later by the USSR...
Text:
ERETZ-ISRAEL [(Hebrew) - the Land of Israel, Palestine] was the birthplace of
the Jewish people...
After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it
throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return
to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.
<<Tavish comment: It was GOD himself who drove you out BUT it's now
MAN countering God's will by trying to undo what GOD did and willed.>>
In the year 5657 (1897), at the summons of the spiritual father of the Jewish
State, Theodore Herzl, the First Zionist Congress convened and proclaimed the
right of the Jewish people to national rebirth in its own country.
This right was recognized in the Balfour Declaration of the 2nd November, 1917,
and re-affirmed in the Mandate of the League of Nations which, in particular,
gave international sanction to the historic connection between the Jewish people
and Eretz-Israel and to the right of the Jewish people to rebuild its National
Home...
<<Tavish comment: Thus we see it is MAN creating the Jewish State of Israel
rather than it being GOD.>>
On the 29th November, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly passed a
resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish State in Eretz-Israel; the
General Assembly required the inhabitants of Eretz-Israel to take such steps as
were necessary on their part for the implementation of that resolution. This
recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish
their State is irrevocable.
This right is the natural right of the Jewish people to be masters of their own
fate, like all other nations, in their own sovereign State.
ACCORDINGLY WE, MEMBERS OF THE PEOPLE'S COUNCIL, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE JEWISH
COMMUNITY OF ERETZ-ISRAEL AND OF THE ZIONIST MOVEMENT, ARE HERE ASSEMBLED ON THE
DAY OF THE TERMINATION OF THE BRITISH MANDATE OVER ERETZ-ISRAEL AND, BY VIRTUE
OF OUR NATURAL AND HISTORIC RIGHT AND ON THE STRENGTH OF THE RESOLUTION OF THE
UNITED NATIONS GENERAL ASSEMBLY, HEREBY DECLARE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH
STATE IN ERETZ-ISRAEL, TO BE KNOWN AS THE STATE OF ISRAEL.
WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate
being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until
the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance
with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly
not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a
Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's
Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be
called "Israel"....
WE APPEAL to the Jewish people throughout the Diaspora to rally round the Jews
of Eretz-Israel in the tasks of immigration and upbuilding and to stand by them
in the great struggle for the realization of the age-old dream - the redemption
of Israel.
PLACING OUR TRUST IN THE ALMIGHTY, WE AFFIX OUR SIGNATURES TO THIS PROCLAMATION
AT THIS SESSION OF THE PROVISIONAL COUNCIL OF STATE, ON THE SOIL OF THE
HOMELAND, IN THE CITY OF TEL-AVIV, ON THIS SABBATH EVE, THE 5TH DAY OF IYAR,
5708 (14TH MAY,1948).
* Published in the Official Gazette, No. 1 of the 5th, Iyar, 5708 (14th May,
1948).
--<END>--
Hardly looks like God brought about the disenfranchisement of Palestinians
from their land does it? Modern "Israel" was mandated by man NOT by God!
~~End of Expanded GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~
IF the present State of Israel is truly a restoration of land by God to the Jews
then why would God have driven Jews out of Israel ~2000 years ago when they
denounced Jesus as the scripture above showed and then "recently" restore the
land to Jews who have to this day have not recognized Jesus as the Messiah? VERY
IMPORTANT QUESTION!!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/msg/5f236d361634c200
Subject: Today's Judaism is the Same Stuff Jesus Condemned ~2000 Years Ago
(Which Has Had Some Additions Made Since Then) V3.0 R_0625
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:51:27 -0500
Message-ID: <1ioifv01joma9fjqp...@4ax.com>
If the Modern State of Israel were truly a fulfillment of God's will then Israel
would not be a nation ruled by Christ Deniers who still persecute Christians!!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a9832ff4524f6c1d
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V3.0 T_0731
Message-ID: <6nbpe1hkig7o14gig...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2005 11:30:08 GMT
If the Modern State of Israel were from God by his will it would be a Christian
entity and not one dominated by Anti-Christs and God would not restore Israel to
be a communist state as the articles below prove!
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
To this very day the Israeli Jews (as well as all most of the other Jews) deny
Jesus is the Christ or Messiah who came in the flesh!
ANTI-CHRISTS IDENTIFIED:
1 John 2: 18 "Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as you have heard
that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists."
1 John 2: 22,23 "Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is
the Christ [or Messiah]? These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you!"
1 John 4: 2,3 "You gain knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this:
Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the
flesh originates with God, but every inspired expression that does not confess
Jesus does not originate with God, Furthermore this is the antichrist's inspired
expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 7,10,11 "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not
confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the
antichrist. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, never
receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For he that says a
greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works."
They still teach Jesus did his miracles by demons!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/8ecf00a3d0a1a81e
Subject: Jesus Christ & Deceased Christians- Their Condition According to TALMUD
(Boiling Semen & Excrement) V2.0 UPDATED T_0730
Message-ID: <bb5oe1pdags5iq3tf...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2005 00:23:02 GMT
Israel today is a Communist/Socialist state as proven by these archives:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3d9a75bb20795c52
Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support V4-0 T_0728
Message-ID: <qfqie1pqg5595f1bb...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Jul 2005 23:47:06 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/4b1f14d8d5d09329?fwc=1
Subject: Political Parties of Israel (Israel is a Communist Sympathizer Nation!)
V2.0 S_0505
Message-ID: <cl4i90prrinnkt5a0...@4ax.com>
Date: 5 May 2004 16:08:47 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/d264209b682dca1e?fwc=1
Subject: Capitalism, Communism, and Technology in Jewish Thought (In Their Own
Words Series)
Message-ID: <2o8gd05kecrnn02e8...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jun 2004 12:12:01 GMT
In fact the world's largest Jewish organization has funded a communist:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/can.general/msg/56c62b82ce6a0edb
Subject: UPDATED! B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge
Against Capitalism, and Christianity V2.0 R_1207
Message-ID: <4186tvsr4d3oiodp2...@4ax.com>
Date: 7 Dec 2003 12:48:39 GMT
Communism is diametrically opposed to Christianity yet many people who claim to
be the "Sheep of Jesus" support the enemies of the true faith!
More hostility toward the "faith" by Pharisaic Jews:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.christian.lutheran/msg/ae8175381ec8a331?fwc=1
Subject: Lubavitcher Given Congressional Gold Medal aka Congressional Jewish
Lobbyists -- Whose Interests Do They Serve?
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:41:46 -0500
Message-ID: <1f8acvstaavq2cpk5...@4ax.com>
How First Century Christianity Was Treated by Jews:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/c67d884d85bad07c
Subject: UPDATED The Most Heinous Murder Plot Ever Devised (For Your Archives &
Research) V2.5 R_0925
Message-ID: <m1p5nv4es86j78p5d...@4ax.com>
Date: 25 Sep 2003 13:23:49 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/72f2f6f3129d731b
Subject: Babylon the Great - Religious Persecution, Torture, Harassment R_0524
Message-ID: <k11ucvc1j4hl6s7av...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:17 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/26ccb282e78d3d26
Subject: The Apostle Paul on Judaized Jews R_0524
Message-ID: <i31ucv4nvr6ehh6r2...@4ax.com>
Date: 24 May 2003 05:30:25 GMT
The first "Holocaust" was not Gentiles (Nazis) Against Jews
BUT was Jews (Communists) Against Christian Kulaks!!!
How Later Christianity was/is treated by Jews:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/a9832ff4524f6c1d
Subject: Comparing Israel's "Anti-Christ Activism" to Other Middle East Nations
is NOT a Valid Comparison V3.0 T_0731
Message-ID: <6nbpe1hkig7o14gig...@4ax.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2005 11:30:08 GMT
Jewish Led Bolsheviks Scalped & Crucified Christians by Philippa Fletcher
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/219f1a9a2ea94759
Subject: Bolsheviks Scalped and Crucified Christians -
Date: 1998/01/18
Message-ID: <34c17d0f....@news.smart1.net>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/ed596bea483952b6
Subject: Post-Soviet Religion (What Communists did to Christians) V3-0 T_0625
Message-ID: <4plub1hmr6bnr2mpl...@4ax.com>
Date: 27 Jun 2005 02:00:38 GMT
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/e364b24e60b8c04d
Subject: V3.0f Forefathers of the Soviet State and Anti-Christ Communism V2-0
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 21:34:42 -0500
Message-ID: <heacl09r40oic5bnu...@4ax.com>
Holocausts Jews have waged against non-Jews and Jewish denial of their
Holocausts against Christians/non-Jews:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/2737c3f9e9a137a2?fwc=1
Subject: 3 Major Jewish Organizations Engage in Holocaust Denial in Addition to
Their anti-Christic Christ Denial anti-Christism V5.1 T_0729
Message-ID: <brcke1lh0s6qacohs...@4ax.com>
Date: 29 Jul 2005 14:04:24 GMT
Tavish
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gab
"Doc Tavish" <rhc-tavish@tavish-central> wrote in message
news:63jte11e3ljgqkriu...@4ax.com...
> STATE OR A FAR MORE RELIGIOUS STATE THAN YOU EVER DREAMT?
bY THE WAY, YOU IDIOT, DID YOU ASK GOD WHETHER HE CHASED THE jEWS OUT OR
WHETHER HUMANS DID IT.
iF SO, TELL ME HOW COME THAT ALL OF THE ENEMNIES OF THE jEWS WHITTERED,
VANISHED IN DEFEAT BUT THE jEWS SURVIVED?
Doc Tavish
"gab" <gab@realitymail.> wrote:
>> Israel today is a Communist/Socialist state as proven by these archives:
>> yOU STUPID HYPOCRITE, MAKE YOUR MIND UP WHETHER THIS IS INDEED A COMMUNIST
>> STATE OR A FAR MORE RELIGIOUS STATE THAN YOU EVER DREAMT?
I's both and not all Israelis who feign religion are religious-- they just walk
in the traditions of their forefathers the Pharisees.
>bY THE WAY, YOU IDIOT, DID YOU ASK GOD WHETHER HE CHASED THE jEWS OUT OR
>WHETHER HUMANS DID IT.
The Bible gave the answer but you missed it!
>iF SO, TELL ME HOW COME THAT ALL OF THE ENEMNIES OF THE jEWS WHITTERED,
In the Old Testament YES!!
>VANISHED IN DEFEAT BUT THE jEWS SURVIVED?
In modern life no! Israel has had the backing of the United States as a bully
boy! I bet if the U.S. were to withdraw all support there would be many changes
in Anti-Christ Israel!!