Security Onion 12.04 64bit --- freeze

[Hooman]

Hey everyone,

I have a 64 bit system and I tried to boot up with Security Onion 12.04 64 bit iso in order to install it on my hdd.

Grub menu appears to work fine however, when Live Desktop environment tries to load, it freezes with the following characteristics:

- the mouse pointer is able to move around.
- no desktop icons are present.
- "no wireless connection" notification is present on the top right in a frozen state not responsive to mouse clicks.
- no other objects/icons respond to mouse clicks.

I have also tried the direct installer option in grub menu and it also freezes with no wizards appearing on screen.

Previously, on this system I have used/installed the following 64 bit systems:

-Backtrack 5 R3
-windows pro
-ubuntu
-centos
-fedora

None of them presented a problem.

Moreover, on the same system, using the same iso dvd, I tried installing the 12.04 64bit inside a vm in virtual box(on windows host) and everything works fine and the installation completes with no problems at all so I'm assuming the dvd is fine.

So I'm wondering what is causing the problem? could it be the graphic drivers or wifi nic drivers ?

[Doug Burks]

Hi Hooman,

Have you tried the nomodeset boot option?
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/security-onion/UKE5-dqybQ4/discussion
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/security-onion/51JZWXZfBho/discussion

Another option would be to install another flavor of Ubuntu 12.04 and
than add our PPA and packages as described on our Installation page:
https://code.google.com/p/security-onion/wiki/Installation#If_you_want_to_quickly_evaluate_Security_Onion_on_your_preferred

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[Hooman]

Hi Doug,

Thank you for the reply.

I tried the "nomodeset" but it did not help it.

However, I used my hdd and iso on another 64 bit machine which has a very generic onboard graphic card and everything worked fine. So it is definitely the graphic card compatibility issue here.( I have the GTX 580 )

> Another option would be to install another flavor of Ubuntu 12.04 and
> than add our PPA and packages as described on our Installation page:
> https://code.google.com/p/security-onion/wiki/Installation#If_you_want_to_quickly_evaluate_Security_Onion_on_your_preferred

Sounds good, I will try the ubuntu installation approach. I've never had a problem with ubuntu before so I will give it a shot and post the results here.

On another note, I've heard from some of my friends that it is better to stick with 32 bit for SO since there are some stability issues with tools on 64 bit. Do you find this to be true? or is it simply invalid ?
because if that is the case I will simply install ubuntu 32 bit and take it from there.

Regards,

[Hooman]

Just a quick update,

I was wrong ... nomodeset worked perfectly fine for me. It got me passed the freezing part but presented a low resolution desktop.

After that, I did the following to permanently fix this problem. I believe most Nvidia users can benefit from these instructions:

sudo apt-get remove nvidia-173
sudo apt-get remove nvidia-96
sudo apt-get install nvidia-current

After installing the "nvidia-current", everything works fine and I've had no need to use nomodeset to boot up. Moreover, full resolution is restored.

[Doug Burks]

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Hooman <cole....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On another note, I've heard from some of my friends that it is better to stick with 32 bit for SO since there are some stability issues with tools on 64 bit. Do you find this to be true? or is it simply invalid ?
> because if that is the case I will simply install ubuntu 32 bit and take it from there.

I am not aware of any 64-bit stability issues. On the contrary, you
are more likely to run into stability and/or performance issues
running 32-bit on high traffic networks. High amounts of traffic
cause Snort/Suricata/Bro to use lots of memory and you need the
increased per-process memory limit that 64-bit provides.

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Doug Burks

[Doug Burks]

Glad that worked for you!

I've added this to the FAQ:
https://code.google.com/p/security-onion/wiki/FAQ#Why_won't_the_ISO_image_boot_on_my_machine?

[Hooman]

On Friday, January 10, 2014 3:15:23 AM UTC-8, Doug Burks wrote:
> Glad that worked for you!
>

Thank you.

> I've added this to the FAQ:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/security-onion/wiki/FAQ#Why_won't_the_ISO_image_boot_on_my_machine?

Wow, that's fantastic.