***Did you know...***
::: truth checker :::
Andrew B. Chung is an idiot.
J666
(in article <712c7cF...@mid.individual.net>):
> JESUS IS LORD.
According to some
>
> Andrew B. Chung is an idiot.
>
Obvious to many
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> JESUS IS LORD.
Even satan knows this (and can have his sockpuppets type this) ...
... but he does not believe this in his heart.
This is why the Holy Spirit will not help satan and other
non-christians like you publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
>Andrew B. Chung is an idiot.
Lie.
"Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera.
The Holy Spirit will not be helping you publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
while you remain a pathological liar, which is someone who does not
trust the truth.
May GOD soften your heart so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! !
http://JiL4ever.net
J666
(in article <ljboq4ptasrs35ip8...@4ax.com>):
> Even satan knows this (and can have his sockpuppets type this) ...
Exactly, just as Satan could have had the above typed by a sockpuppet.
It does seem that Chung doth protest a little to much, methinks.
dr dung
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach...@emory.edu> wrote in message
> Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera.
Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people? Fucking
psuedo-Christian.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4204a6c4aaba2640?
>>
>> Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera.
>
>Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people?
No.
Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician.
The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to
diagnose pathological lying.
"Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
> Fucking psuedo-Christian.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for compelling you
to unwittingly provide yourself as yet another example of a
non-christian person, who is unable to publicly say "Jesus is LORD."
May GOD soften your heart so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
http://EmoryCardiology.com
J666
(in article <n1toq4l7admogqpkp...@4ax.com>):
>> Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people?
>
> No.
>
> Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician.
>
> The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to
> diagnose pathological lying.
>
> "Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit
Seems like a question and not a statement and the poster did not make any
statement that was a lie but only asked a question.
Seems for someone who is such a stickler and comments when "says" is used in
a text based medium, you, Chung, should be held to the same standard.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> >
> > Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician.
> >
> > The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to
> > diagnose pathological lying.
> >
> > "Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
> Seems like a question and not a statement and the poster did not make any
> statement that was a lie but only asked a question.
Lie.
This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your
native language.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/e17dea9c6a25e81c?
<><
"The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the
LORD." (Proverbs 16:33)
Amen.
A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD
allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic (Pan-Flu) at any
time:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
What we are teaching to prepare folks for the eventuality of a
catastrophic Pan-Flu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
How to not be fearful:
Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!!
May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful
2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah,
the Son of Man ...
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
Hunger is wonderful ! ! !
It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus
want?" (WDJW):
Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...
... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)
Amen.
Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of
promoting much greater understanding:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
Jesus is LORD, forever !!!
Be hungrier, which is truly healthier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What does Jesus want (WDJW) ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/11194899724b810d?
dr dung
>a non-christian neighbor wrote:
>>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4204a6c4aaba2640?
>>>
>>> Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera.
>>
>>Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people?
>
> No.
>
> Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician.
>
> The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to
> diagnose pathological lying.
Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer. You're a credit to stupidity.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > a non-christian neighbor wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4204a6c4aaba2640?
> >>>
> >>> Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera.
> >>
> >> Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician.
> >
> > The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to
> > diagnose pathological lying.
>
> Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly
say "Jesus is LORD."
May GOD soften your heart so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
::: Jesus is LORD :::
dr dung <y...@my.com> typed:
Correct. If a doctor posts in Latin, he should know the grammar. Even I
could correct him.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> a non-christian neighbor wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote
>>> a non-christian neighbor wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4204a6c4aaba2640?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus, you are a pathological liar, Vera.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, so you're god now thinking you can judge people?
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Instead, GOD has called me to be a physician.
>>>
>>> The observation of compulsive name-calling does allow a physician to
>>> diagnose pathological lying.
>>
>> Ah, yes, the typical Chung non-answer. You're a credit to stupidity.
Lie.
>Correct.
Lies are always incorrect.
> If a doctor posts in Latin, he should know the grammar. Even I
>could correct him.
Without the LORD, all that you do is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to unwittingly update folks on your still being unable to publicly
say "Jesus is LORD."
May GOD soften your heart, Vera, so you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Don Kirkman
article
<5adb1262-19a8-493e...@y13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>:
>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your
>native language.
You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage. Intentionally
misquoting or mistranslating is a form of lying, which seems to be
your nature (which is what the verse actually says).
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
>>This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your
>>native language.
>
>You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage.
It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of
the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write:
"Lying is satan's native language." -- Holy Spirit
Amen.
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Don Kirkman
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>>>This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your
>>>native language.
>>You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage.
>
>It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of
>the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write:
>"Lying is satan's native language." -- Holy Spirit
"Lying is satan's very nature." - Bible
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>>satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> >>>This should not surprise anyone since it is written that lying is your
> >>>native language.
>
> >>You insist on mistranslating/misquoting that passage.
> >
> >It remains my personal choice to continue to receive the guidance of
> >the Holy Spirit in everything I say, do, and write:
>
> >"Lying is satan's native language." -- Holy Spirit
>
> "Lying is satan's very nature." - Bible
"Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's
native language."
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
Don Kirkman
article
>"Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's
>native language."
Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the
"language" he speaks.
>Truth is simple
You should try it sometime.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
>>"Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's
>>native language."
>
>Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the
>"language" he speaks.
Incorrect.
A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level
of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is
produced. Thus, when lying is a person's native language it does mean
that lying is a person's very nature (happening in all the other
languages s/he may be using).
Truth is simple :-)
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
J666
(in article <k7stq49qgm2u5f180...@4ax.com>):
> A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level
> of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is
> produced.
Some people are bilingual (and some even in more than two) and can talk,
write, think and dream in both languages without translating.
As a stickler in the use of words, I thought you might like to know that.
Don Kirkman
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew. in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>"Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's
>>>native language."
>>Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the
>>"language" he speaks.
>Incorrect.
You could look it up - but I know you won't.
>A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level
>of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is
>produced. Thus, when lying is a person's native language it does mean
>that lying is a person's very nature (happening in all the other
>languages s/he may be using).
Hogwash. Nowadays you've left off even trying to use words properly.
>Truth is simple
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Don Kirkman
<0001HW.C5D456F6...@news.supernews.com>:
>On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:27:36 -0600, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>(in article <k7stq49qgm2u5f180...@4ax.com>):
>> A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level
>> of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is
>> produced.
>Some people are bilingual (and some even in more than two) and can talk,
>write, think and dream in both languages without translating.
Thank you. I'm one of those people, though I don't handle my second
language as well as I do my first. I can also draw meaning from
reading some other languages without doing mental translation.
>As a stickler in the use of words, I thought you might like to know that.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Don Kirkman
<9s7uq4t5rh8qsv5p2...@4ax.com>:
>It seems to me I heard somewhere that J666 wrote in article
><0001HW.C5D456F6...@news.supernews.com>:
>>On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:27:36 -0600, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
>>(in article <k7stq49qgm2u5f180...@4ax.com>):
>>> A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level
>>> of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is
>>> produced.
>>Some people are bilingual (and some even in more than two) and can talk,
>>write, think and dream in both languages without translating.
>Thank you. I'm one of those people, though I don't handle my second
>language as well as I do my first. I can also draw meaning from
>reading some other languages without doing mental translation.
It occurred to me that Dr. Chung is on record as being bilingual,
English and Mandarin. Since the odds are he learned both languages at
his mother's knee (by far the most effective learning method) a little
introspection might have told him that he does not think before
translating into other languages and speaking. First, has he ever
tried thinking without using a language? and, second, a person fluent
in his second language will form his words in that language, not in
his first language.
Or, maybe he's not really that fluent in Mandarin at all?
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> >>> "Lying is satan's very nature" is consistent with "lying is satan's
> >>> native language."
>
> >> Only if "nature" as in the character of a man is identical with the
> >> "language" he speaks.
>
> > Incorrect.
>
> You could look it up - but I know you won't.
Simply read the following:
> >A person's native language is the language a person uses at the level
> >of thought that gets translated to other languages before speech is
> >produced. Thus, when lying is a person's native language it does mean
> >that lying is a person's very nature (happening in all the other
> >languages s/he may be using).
>
> Hogwash. Nowadays you've left off even trying to use words properly.
Your being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative simply
shows that you continue to be guided by the spirit of error (self)
instead of the Holy Spirit as has been oft noted before.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for His compelling
you to continue to update folks on your still being unable to publicly
say "Jesus is LORD."
And so Christians (either Jew or gentile) should continue to pray for
your perishing soul...
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
J666
(in article <6tuuq411cc3is1oii...@4ax.com>):
> he does not think
Yes, Chung does not think. He was once able to in order to get his degrees
and Boards, but not know.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
<><
May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
May GOD soften their hearts so that they would come to trust the
J666
(in article <82rvq4tg6vocadruu...@4ax.com>):
> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
> not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
Religion 1.01
Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham, but are
different otherwise.
Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the
religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> > May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
> > not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
>
> Religion 1.01
>
> Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
Lie.
Many Jews actually trust the truth, Who is Jesus, in their hearts and
are therefore Christians, albeit Jewish Christians:
Chinese Christian: "Can you say 'Jesus is LORD' ?"
Jewish friend: "No, I can not say 'Jesus is LORD'"
Chinese Christian: "You just did ! ! !"
Jewish Christian: "Please don't tell my Jewish friends."
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
Amen.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue be
mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as GOD
desires:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e66533660a8f240?
<><
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmkax1wbRU
... by being hungrier:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806?
Amen.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7?
Marana tha
J666
(in article
<a7d9e58a-e216-496c...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>):
>>> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
>>> not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
>>
>> Religion 1.01
>>
>> Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
>
> Lie.
I find it interesting that many extremists when it comes to God and faith,
ignore definitions and facts so that their own little world remains intact.
It is also interesting repetition gives them much comfort as though
repetition makes it true.
Perhaps it is good that Chung does not use his MD, PhD and Boards with his
current mentality.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
::: Jesus is LORD :::
J666 <j6...@nowhere.com> typed:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:17:07 -0600, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote
> (in article <82rvq4tg6vocadruu...@4ax.com>):
>
>> May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
>> not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
>
> Religion 1.01
>
> Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
>
> Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham,
> but are different otherwise.
That is not the case. It was true before Muhammed changed it. Muslims
pray to a different God than Jews or Christians.
> Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the
> religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus
Or? No, it is the confession *and* following Jesus.
Vera
--
___________________________________________________
http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de
WHERE JESUS CHRIST IS LORD
http://the-beauty-of-the-psalms.blogspot.com
http://jesus-christ-is-my-lord-and-my-god.blogspot.com
MM
> I find it interesting that many extremists when it comes to God and faith,
> ignore definitions and facts so that their own little world remains intact.
> It is also interesting repetition gives them much comfort as though
> repetition makes it true.
>
> Perhaps it is good that Chung does not use his MD, PhD and Boards with his
> current mentality.
Chung's response shows it all. Like the small child who puts his
fingers in his ears and repeats out loud the same thing over and over
so cannot hear what is being said, Chung ignores what is written and
writes the same things over and over. It is obvious he cannot answer
and so acts like a child. It is interesting, and sad, how people
like Chung can really fool themselves.
Don Kirkman
article <71am1eF...@mid.individual.net>:
>In news:0001HW.C5D55DC8...@news.supernews.com,
>J666 <j6...@nowhere.com> typed:
>> Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
>> Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham,
>> but are different otherwise.
>That is not the case. It was true before Muhammed changed it. Muslims
>pray to a different God than Jews or Christians.
I think you've got your history mixed up. Muslims follow the
teachings of Muhammad as written in the Koran, basically an
explanation and call to follow the God of Abraham, the father of both
Jews and Muslims. Since Christianity came out of Judaism, it follows
that Christians also follow the same God as the other two religions.
>> Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the
>> religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> > satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
Incorrect.
Many Jews belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish Christians.
> >> Jews, Christian and Muslims share the same God, the God of Abraham,
> >> but are different otherwise.
Incorrect.
Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
gentile Christians respectively.
> > That is not the case. It was true before Muhammed changed it. Muslims
> > pray to a different God than Jews or Christians.
Incorrect. Those who belong the Christ, whether Jew or gentile, pray
to the same GOD, Who is the Creator of heaven and earth and the Author
of all reality.
> I think you've got your history mixed up. Muslims follow the
> teachings of Muhammad as written in the Koran, basically an
> explanation and call to follow the God of Abraham, the father of both
> Jews and Muslims. Since Christianity came out of Judaism, it follows
> that Christians also follow the same God as the other two religions.
Incorrect. Christianity is not a religion but a relationship arising
out of belonging to Christ.
> >> Christian: One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the
> >> religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus
Incorrect. A Christian is one who belongs to Christ. Those who are
able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" are Christian. Those who can not
publicly say "Jesus is LORD" are non-christian. A non-christian
becomes Christian only by being reborn of water and the Holy Spirit
thereby becoming a new creature in Christ.
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus, thereby becoming reborn of water and the Holy
Spirit, thereby becoming a new creature in Christ:
Amen.
B. Cramer
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:a7d9e58a-e216-496c...@b38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Fuck orf chung. You're a fucking loon.
J666
There is only a very small percentage of Jews who believe in Jesus.
last_per...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
> > > not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
>
> > Religion 1.01
>
> > Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
>
> Lie.
There are a few Jews who've converted to Christianity, but only
a very tiny % of them have. To most Jews, the Christian Cross
is to them what a skull & crossbones is to most people, or worse.
Some of the more ignorant Jews still try to claim J.C. never existed
at all.
J666
(in article
<2e943cac-c7d4-4aa9...@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>):
> Some of the more ignorant Jews still try to claim J.C. never existed
> at all.
What proof do you have that he was the son of God - it is what some believe
and others do not and belief something else.
Viewing others with different religious beliefs who do not accept yours as
the truth and calling them ignorant, really shows your ignorance about
religions.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:37:00 -0600, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote
> (in article
> <2e943cac-c7d4-4aa9-8659-4ce7e9cc4...@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > Some of the more ignorant Jews still try to claim J.C. never existed
> > at all.
>
> What proof do you have that he was the son of God - it is what some believe
> and others do not and belief something else.
>
> Viewing others with different religious beliefs who do not accept yours as
> the truth and calling them ignorant, really shows your ignorance about
> religions.
I have not stated my own beliefs here. I am referring to the ignorant
ones
who deny the historic J.C. That aside, J.C. is the most famous
person
who ever existed. You don't get that way by being some imaginary
schmuck.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:
>> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>> > > May we, who are Christians (either Jew or gentile), continue to pray
>> > > not only for Don's perishing soul but Vera's as well...
>>
>> > Religion 1.01
>>
>> > Jews do not believe in Christ and therefore are not Christians.
>>
>> Lie.
>
>There are a few Jews who've converted to Christianity, but only
>a very tiny % of them have.
Am discovering that about 67% of the Jewish people whom I have asked
are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD" thereby allowing me to know
they belong to Christ and are therefore Christians even though they
may deny Him with their minds (i.e. prodigal Jewish Christians).
Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
http://EmoryCardiology.com
J666
(in article
<0d880753-3259-421f...@w34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>):
> That aside, J.C. is the most famous
> person
> who ever existed
Abraham, of the God of Abraham of the Jews, Christians and Muslims is pretty
famous too. Do not forget Moses.
Because Jesus is famous does not mean that he was the son of a God.
Don Kirkman
article <6kc2r4ps0jndel5lv...@4ax.com>:
>Am discovering that about 67% of the Jewish people whom I have asked
>are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
So of the three Jews you know two were able to say it, huh?
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
Don Kirkman
article
<a205e86d-d1c5-44c3...@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>:
>Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
>gentile Christians respectively.
Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. When
a Jew converts to Christianity he becomes a Christian and [usually] no
longer observes the Jewish religious rituals.
"Gentile" is a generic cultural description to describe non-Jews;
nobody "converts" from Gentilism to Christianity.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
J666
(in article <stj2r4pg1ji0ar2nf...@4ax.com>):
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article <6kc2r4ps0jndel5lv...@4ax.com>:
>
>> Am discovering that about 67% of the Jewish people whom I have asked
>> are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>
> So of the three Jews you know two were able to say it, huh?
>
Are you able to publicly say "Chung is Insane"
J666
(in article <7dk2r4dsb6mv8id7l...@4ax.com>):
A shiksa a non-Jewish, gentile, woman.
In Judaism the child is the religion of the mother.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > are able to publicly say "Jesus is LORD"
>
> So of the three Jews you know two were able to say it, huh?
Blessed to know more than a few Jewish friends at Emory University :-)
Even have family who are Jewish.
Truth is simple :-)
Sample dialogue with Jewish friends...
Andrew: "Can you say 'Jesus is LORD' ?"
Jewish friend: "I can't say 'Jesus is LORD.'"
Andrew: "You just did ! ! !"
Jewish friend: "That's impossible. I am Jewish ! ! !"
Andrew: "And, I am Chinese. Your point is what exactly?"
:-)
May GOD soften your heart, Don, so that you would come to trust the
truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Cardiologist
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
>
> >gentile Christians respectively.
>
> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
Incorrect.
If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust
perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic
cleansing."
Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me
that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic
one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese
Buddhists :-)
Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
one.
May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Don, so that you would
come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Don Kirkman
article
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
>> >gentile Christians respectively.
>> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
>If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
>upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
>persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
They were taken out of the enclaves and the ``` and the ghettos and,
as practicing Jews, they were sent to the "labor" camps and killed. At
that time and place in history ethnicity and religion were essentially
a way of identifying the same group of people. Your confusing the
two is similar to what the Nazis did.
[Begin]
>Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust
>perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic
>cleansing."
I just refuted it.
>Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me
>that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic
>one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese
>Buddhists :-)
There are in fact Chinese Jews.
>Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
>
>Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
>one.
>
>May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Don, so that you would
>come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
>
>http://T3WIJ.com
>
>Amen.
>
>Marana tha
>
>Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
>
>Andrew <><
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
dsharavi
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
> > >gentile Christians respectively.
>
> > Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
> upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
> persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
>
> Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust
> perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic
> cleansing."
>
> Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me
> that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic
> one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese
> Buddhists :-)
The Chinese Jews
http://www.haruth.com/JewsChina1907.html
The Pien-Liang (Kiafeng) Jewish Community
The Harbin Jewish Community
The Shanghai Jewish Community
The Beijing Jewish Community
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/chinajews.html
> Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
> Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
> one.
Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth.
HTH,
Deborah
Don Kirkman
article
>convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
>> >gentile Christians respectively.
>> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
>If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
>upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
>persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
It is typically portrayed (I think that's what you mean) as both,
because by and large the Jewish population in pre-WW II Europe were
practicing Jews who had roots in the Near East where the Jews
originated.
>Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust
>perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic
>cleansing."
I have refuted your "irrefutable" fact.
>Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me
>that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic
>one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese
>Buddhists :-)
There are Chinese Jews; you could look it up. There have been Jews in
China for centuries, and some of them have assimilated to Chinese
culture.
"China's Jewish communities have been ethnically diverse ranging from
the Jews of Kaifeng and other places during the history of Imperial
China, who, it is reported, came to be more or less totally
assimilated into Chinese culture, to 19th and 20th century Baghdadis,
to Indians, to Ashkenazi Jews from Europe."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_China
"Archaelogical evidence suggests that Jews were in China as early as
the 8th Century, having arrived from Persia along the Silk Road. In
1163 the Emperor ordered the Jews to live in Kaifeng, where they built
the first Chinese synagogue. Marco Polo recorded that Kublai Khan
celebrated the festivals of the Muslims, Christians and Jews,
indicating that there were a significant number of Jews in China in
the 13th Century.
"A Ming Emperor conferred on the Jews seven surnames - Ai, Lao, Jin,
Li, Shi, Zhang and Zhao. To this day Chinese Jews will only have one
of these seven names. Christian missionaries also recorded meetings
with Chinese Jews. At least one synagogue was constructed, and the
community was active for about eight centuries. Currently, the Vatican
holds letters from Jesuits in the 18th Century describing the daily
life and religious practices of Jews in Kaifeng, and drawings of their
synagogue."
http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Jews.html
>Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
>Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
>one.
Your "therefore" doesn't work.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
last_per...@yahoo.com
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article
>
> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
> >gentile Christians respectively.
>
> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
Don't get out much? You've swallowed that one hook, line and sinker.
Jews consider Jewishness in the blood, and they're quite correct.
Some diseases, such as polycythemia rubra vera are know to
be more common in Jews for example. No known organic disease
is related to a person's religion. Nevermind the various physical
characteristics common to Jews, common personality traits, etc.,
regardless of whether a particular one is atheist or a Talmud
believer.
Jewishness is an ethnicity; a little unbelievable you actually have to
be told this. There are countless examples of non-practicing Jews,
including atheist Jews, who still very much consider themselves
Jewish.
The late Isaac Asimov always immediately comes to mind. He was
very much atheist, and very much a Jew. Non-Jewish converts
are not considered *real* Jews, by Jews, and they will tell you
they don't encourage it.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:43:49 -0600, Don Kirkman wrote
>
> > It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> > article
>
> >> Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
> >> gentile Christians respectively.
>
> > Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one. When
> > a Jew converts to Christianity he becomes a Christian and [usually] no
> > longer observes the Jewish religious rituals.
>
> > "Gentile" is a generic cultural description to describe non-Jews;
> > nobody "converts" from Gentilism to Christianity.
>
> A shiksa a non-Jewish, gentile, woman.
And also a racial slur.
last_per...@yahoo.com
wrote:
> convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
> > >gentile Christians respectively.
>
> > Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
> upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
> persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
>
> Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust
> perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic
> cleansing."
>
> Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me
> that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic
> one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese
> Buddhists :-)
>
> Instead, there are Jewish Atheists
There are MANY Jewish atheists.
last_per...@yahoo.com
>
> > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
> > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
> > one.
>
> Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth.
Funny, I've heard about all those three-legged ballerinas too.
I mean, we all know how multi-cultural Israel is, and how the ZioNazi
scum who run it are such a diverse lot.
last_per...@yahoo.com
>
> >Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
> >Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
> >one.
>
> Your "therefore" doesn't work.
What about "Jewish atheist" can't you comprehend? The fact
that there are many of them is all it takes to flush your position
down the shitter. Strange "logic" you have.
The Doctor
Like Karl von Marx.
--
Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nl2k.ab.ca
Ici doc...@nl2k.ab.ca God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Never Satan President Republic!
TRoll(n): An atheism worshipper / believer
The Doctor
Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >
> > > > Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
> > > > gentile Christians respectively.
> >
> > > Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
> >
> > Incorrect.
> >
> > If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
> > upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
> > persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
> >
> > Instead, the fact remains irrefutable that the WWII Holocaust
> > perpetrated by the Nazis upon the Jewish people was an "ethnic
> > cleansing."
> >
> > Moreover, one Jewish friend has made the pointed observation to me
> > that if being Jewish were a religious description instead of an ethnic
> > one, there would be Chinese Jews just as there are Chinese
> > Buddhists :-)
> >
> > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists
>
> There are MANY Jewish atheists.
Indeed.
Interestingly, many of these "Jewish atheists" can say "Jesus is LORD"
so that they actually belong to Jesus and are thus actually prodigal
Jewish Christians.
Bottom line:
Jesus of Nazareth is risen and He remains a Jew ! ! !
Therefore, being a Jew is an ethnic description instead of religious
one because Jesus is clearly not religious.
Dear friend "last_permutation",
Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
--
Jesus is LORD, forever ! ! !
http://JiL4ever.net
B. Cramer
<last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d5b6bae5-bb2a-4eba...@v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 6, 7:16 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
> > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
> > one.
>
> Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth.
Nope. Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Jews.
I've fixed it for you shoveari.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> In article <d5b6bae5-bb2a-4eba-8771-d283f0bc7...@v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> <last_permutat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 6, 7:16 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Instead, there are Jewish Atheists and even Jewish Buddhists.
> >> > Therefore, "Jewish" is an ethnic description instead of a religious
> >> > one.
>
> >> Thus, Chinese Jews, Japanese Jews, Indian Jews, and so forth.
>
> >Funny, I've heard about all those three-legged ballerinas too.
>
> >I mean, we all know how multi-cultural Israel is, and how the ZioNazi
> >scum who run it are such a diverse lot.
>
> Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known.
Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way.
You walk right in lockstep sonny.
::: Jesus is LORD :::
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> >> > Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
> >> > gentile Christians respectively.
>
> >> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
>
> > If you were correct, then the WWII Holocaust perpetrated by the Nazis
> > upon the Jewish people would be protrayed historically as religious
> > persecution instead of the "ethnic cleansing" that it was.
>
> They were taken out of the enclaves and the ``` and the ghettos and,
> as practicing Jews, they were sent to the "labor" camps and killed.
Thus, they were persecuted for their ethnicity and not their religious
beliefs.
May GOD soften Vera's heart and your heart, Don, so that you would
come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus:
Amen.
Marana tha
Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ,
Andrew <><
--
Don Kirkman
in article
<20c437a7-fea5-4e9a...@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>:
>On Mar 6, 11:43 am, Don Kirkman <dons...@charter.net> wrote:
>> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>> article
>> <a205e86d-d1c5-44c3-a88d-a622f0a11...@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>:
>> >Many Jews and gentiles belong to Christ and are therefore Jewish and
>> >gentile Christians respectively.
>> Wrong. "Jewish" is a religious description, not an ethnic one.
>Don't get out much? You've swallowed that one hook, line and sinker.
>Jews consider Jewishness in the blood, and they're quite correct.
>Some diseases, such as polycythemia rubra vera are know to
>be more common in Jews for example. No known organic disease
>is related to a person's religion. Nevermind the various physical
>characteristics common to Jews, common personality traits, etc.,
>regardless of whether a particular one is atheist or a Talmud
>believer.
Yes, obviously many Jews share both a history and a genetic
relationship. That isn't the whole story, though. Sammy Davis, Jr.,
became a Jew. There are Jews in many countries that do not share
Jewish ethnicity or history, though they are a minority both in their
native country and in Judaism. As has been pointed out to Chung by
several writers, there are indeed Chinese Jews.
>Jewishness is an ethnicity; a little unbelievable you actually have to
>be told this. There are countless examples of non-practicing Jews,
>including atheist Jews, who still very much consider themselves
>Jewish.
And in human affairs it is generally accepted, as it should be, that
self-identification is paramount--though the world doesn't always
accept it.
>The late Isaac Asimov always immediately comes to mind. He was
>very much atheist, and very much a Jew. Non-Jewish converts
>are not considered *real* Jews, by Jews, and they will tell you
>they don't encourage it.
Of course I was talking, as Chung was, about Jews converting to
Christianity, not the other way around, but it does happen and some
strands of Judaism are more open to it than others.
Atheism, just like other faith systems, is not bounded by ethnicity,
intellect, or culture. And like other faith systems, its followers
range from highly intellectual believers who present a rigorous
defense (or often, offense) to many who are as ill prepared to discuss
atheism as many believers of other faiths are to discuss their own
beliefs.
--
Don Kirkman
don...@charter.net
J666
(in article <get5r45ahkrpvups7...@4ax.com>):
> Yes, obviously many Jews share both a history and a genetic
> relationship. That isn't the whole story, though. Sammy Davis, Jr.,
> became a Jew. There are Jews in many countries that do not share
> Jewish ethnicity or history, though they are a minority both in their
> native country and in Judaism. As has been pointed out to Chung by
> several writers, there are indeed Chinese Jews.
In the Jewish religion the child is the religion of the mother, so some women
have converted to Judaism so her children can be Jewish as is her husband.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >
> > Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known.
>
> Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way.
> You walk right in lockstep sonny.
Dear Last_Permutation,
J666
(in article
<724e7ddc-d09f-4f1f...@w34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>):
> last_permutation wrote:
>>>
>>> Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known.
>>
>> Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way.
>> You walk right in lockstep sonny.
>
> Dear Last_Permutation,
>
> Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
Dear Last_Permutation
Much better, as the discerning realize, to publicly say "CHUNG IS INSANE"
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote"
> >>>
> >>> Another MeinKampfer makes it presense known.
> >>
> >> Smear the messenger, ignore the message, it's the ZioNazi way.
> >> You walk right in lockstep sonny.
> >
> > Dear Last_Permutation,
> >
> > Can you publicly say "Jesus is LORD" ?
>
> Dear Last_Permutation
>
> Much better, as the discerning realize, to publicly say "CHUNG IS INSANE"
Lie.
It is understandable that you want the perishing to publicly bear
false witness against those in the Holy Spirit.
You are here to deceive the perishing into blaspheming against the
Holy Spirit thereby having them fall into eternal condemnation like
you.
Publicly saying "Jesus is LORD" requires the help of the Holy Spirit
because "Jesus is LORD" is absolutely true. The Holy Spirit is the
Spirit of Truth.
May we, who are Jesus' disciples (either Jew or gentile), continue to
be mindful of WDJW by rebuking you at each GOD-given opportunity as
GOD desires:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/2e66533660a8f240?