trying to post
Bob
what's going on. I'm using googles groups. Both of those were replies
so maybe that's the problem, I'm creating this new.
Sorry Jerry, but I've never had a Pro rating. If this goes through
I'll follow up.
Bob Church
Jerry K.
Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
its arrival.
Blue Skies,
Jerry
peanut4040
Heard about your demo bob,,, you take out any spectators landing
downtown? hehehehehehe
Bob
> Heard about your demo bob,,, you take out any spectators landing
> downtown? hehehehehehe
I could have, judging by the looks some of the young cuties were
giving me. What is it about landing a parachute and all that.. well..
oh wait, that's not what you meant is it.
But frankly I'd rather jump without a rig than cheat on my wife. The
odds of survival would be higher.
Bob Church
the unknown flailer
Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
there barn storming at some rural airport so the next thing a
questioning mind would ask is.....Does he even need to keep up a USPA
membership? Bob is a free man, you are a lacky of the membership
system......This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"---Like
taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh 0~;-*
Mike Spurgeon
> On Oct 7, 6:24 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:35:45 -0700 (PDT), Bob <chur...@ohio.edu> wrote:
>>> I posted twice yesterday and neither one showed up. I'm not sure
>>> what's going on. I'm using googles groups. Both of those were replies
>>> so maybe that's the problem, I'm creating this new.
>>> Sorry Jerry, but I've never had a Pro rating. If this goes through
>>> I'll follow up.
>>> Bob Church
>> Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
>>
>> Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
>> its arrival.
I got it Sunday, so it probably arrived Saturday.
> Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
> this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
> which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
> there barn storming at some rural airport so the next thing a
> questioning mind would ask is.....Does he even need to keep up a USPA
> membership? Bob is a free man, you are a lacky of the membership
> system......This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
> the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"---Like
> taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh
Even easier, since I've known Bob since his first jump, and could guess
his attitudes about such things...
the unknown flailer
> the unknown flailer wrote:
> > On Oct 7, 6:24 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:35:45 -0700 (PDT), Bob <chur...@ohio.edu> wrote:
> >>> I posted twice yesterday and neither one showed up. I'm not sure
> >>> what's going on. I'm using googles groups. Both of those were replies
> >>> so maybe that's the problem, I'm creating this new.
> >>> Sorry Jerry, but I've never had a Pro rating. If this goes through
> >>> I'll follow up.
> >>> Bob Church
> >> Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
>
> >> Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
> >> its arrival.
>
> I got it Sunday, so it probably arrived Saturday.
>
> > Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
> > this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
> > which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
> > there barn storming at some rural airport so the next thing a
> > questioning mind would ask is.....Does he even need to keep up a USPA
> > system......This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
> > the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"---Like
> > taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh
>
> Even easier, since I've known Bob since his first jump, and could guess
> his attitudes about such things...
Yes I've followed everything related to Bob, listened to your back and
forth---etc....Jerry being a urban slave and fairly narrow minded is
probably having a problem dealing with all this. Even so its funny
how styles diverge. Church's style works for him....I was mostly a
USPA member myself, especially after DZ Manifest software developed to
the point of red flagging not only when reserve repacks but also when
membership were due...I bitched about "a bunch of Nazi's but the USPA
system worked for me as it does for thousands of others. If their had
been a non USPA DZ in the area it might have been different, what Bob
does works for him, Jerry probably can't except that because he like
most people who hang around USPA DZ's has no choice but its what makes
us a free country--Individual choice--Skydiving used to represent free
spirit, now? I don't really think so because we are in a over
regulated society....All of these kids just have to belong to
something anyway....And Jerry belongs to me & the USPA heh fricking
wonderful---It's giving me a woody!. ;)
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 7, 6:24�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:35:45 -0700 (PDT), Bob <chur...@ohio.edu> wrote:
>> >I posted twice yesterday and neither one showed up. I'm not sure
>> >what's going on. I'm using googles groups. Both of those were replies
>> >so maybe that's the problem, I'm creating this new.
>> >Sorry Jerry, but I've never had a Pro rating. If this goes through
>> >I'll follow up.
>>
>> >Bob Church
>>
>> Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
>>
>> Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
>> its arrival.
>>
>> Blue Skies,
>>
>> Jerry
>
>Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
>this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
As if a Pro License predicates charging for jumps? Cut the crap.
>which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
>there barn storming at some rural airport
Yo, hypocrite - you ever jump at a non-USPA dz? Where Bob jumps at,
btw, is open to discussion. So, where does he jump, dumbass?
>so the next thing a
>questioning mind would ask is.....Does he even need to keep up a USPA
>membership?
If he doesn't jump at a USPA dz, no.
>Bob is a free man, you are a lacky of the membership
>system.
Yo, hypocrite - so at what point did you send off for your USPA
licenses and awards? Pretty much as soon as you were able? And
again, how many non-uspa dz's you ever jump at and how many jumps you
ever made while NOT a member of uspa?
>.....This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
>the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"
All you "own," moron, is an ISP address and presumably a keyboard. As
for "llifting" or some such, it was only a bet which he made and I was
happy to take, if only to determine whether my false assumption was
indeed false. As for the rest, dumbass - I never claimed to "know it
all" but damn for sure I know more than you and have forgotten more
skydiving than you ever experienced. And that chaps your
ass--------> Log It.
>---Like
>taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh
The irony here is while Bob made the bet and I willingly took it, you
often say you "bet" something or other and when the bet gets taken,
you skitter for wall and further, when someone offers to bet you over
something you've said, you skitter for the wall. In other words,
coward, you talk the talk but walking it is too much for your cowardly
ass. Log that, too.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
My mistake - MIKE made the bet - RUN WITH IT JINNIE!!!
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> >>system.
>
> >Yo, hypocrite - so at what point did you send off for your USPA
> >licenses and awards? Pretty much as soon as you were able? And
> >again, how many non-uspa dz's you ever jump at and how many jumps you
> >ever made while NOT a member of uspa?
>
> >>.....This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
> >>the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"
>
> >All you "own," moron, is an ISP address and presumably a keyboard. As
> >for "llifting" or some such, it was only a bet which he made and I was
> >happy to take, if only to determine whether my false assumption was
> >indeed false. As for the rest, dumbass - I never claimed to "know it
> >all"
> >>---Like
> >>taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh
>
> >The irony here is while Bob made the bet
>
> My mistake - MIKE made the bet - RUN WITH IT JINNIE!!!
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It finally occurs to you you're not perfect? Thats progress, now let
work on the pin fear and that bootee crutch of you got going on kid!
0~;->
Jerry K.
You're a perfect douchebag, princess - I'll give you that. As for me,
I never claimed to be but you? Well, feel free to claim how perfect
is your douchebaggery.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:25:06 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 7, 6:24 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:35:45 -0700 (PDT), Bob <chur...@ohio.edu> wrote:
> >> >I posted twice yesterday and neither one showed up. I'm not sure
> >> >what's going on. I'm using googles groups. Both of those were replies
> >> >so maybe that's the problem, I'm creating this new.
> >> >Sorry Jerry, but I've never had a Pro rating. If this goes through
> >> >I'll follow up.
>
> >> >Bob Church
>
> >> Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
>
> >> Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
> >> its arrival.
>
> >> Blue Skies,
>
> >> Jerry
>
> >Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
> >this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
>
> As if a Pro License predicates charging for jumps? Cut the crap.
>
> >which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
> >there barn storming at some rural airport
>
> Yo, hypocrite - you ever jump at a non-USPA dz? Where Bob jumps at,
> btw, is open to discussion. So, where does he jump, dumbass?
I know because I read his posts but ain't telling you, why? Because
you are a USPA lackey and jealous as hell besides.
Who knows, he might renew his USPA once in a while to go jump at one
of Ohio's big DZ's....No matter, what ever works for him makes me
happy.
>
> >so the next thing a
> >questioning mind would ask is.....Does he even need to keep up a USPA
> >membership?
>
> If he doesn't jump at a USPA dz, no.
>
> >Bob is a free man, you are a lackey of the membership
> >system.
>
> Yo, hypocrite - so at what point did you send off for your USPA
> licenses and awards? Pretty much as soon as you were able? And
> again, how many non-uspa dz's you ever jump at and how many jumps you
> ever made while NOT a member of uspa?
Only a few months, thats all I could get by with until manifest caught
me...I got to be known as a tricky old man so the USPA Nazi's squealed
on me on a regular basis cause I just had to be up to something
besides being a bad influence.
I posted earlier the USPA worked for me and thousands of others-----
Bob just took another path and I'm impressed. There's only 3 or 4
people on here I admire and two of them are Yankee's. You represent
one of the the worst problems of the USPA culture, a one dimensional
under achiever fleecing the novices...A whore of the lowest class.
Going from DZ to
DZ, chiseling jump tickets, money and mooching beer--Running up the
cost of the sport for recreational jumpers. Yep----You I don't like,
can you tell?
>
> >.....This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
> >the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"
>
> All you "own," moron, is an ISP address and presumably a keyboard.
Pretty cool huh? A ISP along with a flea market computer, a fairly
cheap way to own a USPA punk after retirement eh?
the unknown flailer
>
> >> >>---Like
> >> >>taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh
>
> >> >The irony here is while Bob made the bet
>
> >> My mistake - MIKE made the bet - RUN WITH IT JINNIE!!!
>
> >> ...bsrp
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>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >It finally occurs to you you're not perfect? Thats progress, now let
> >work on the pin fear and that bootee crutch of you got going on kid!
>
> You're a perfect douchebag, princess - I'll give you that. As for me,
> I never claimed to be but you? Well, feel free to claim how perfect
> is your douchebaggery.
>
> ...bsrp
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I'm just more intelligent than you kid, don't take it personal----You
think with your emotions...I was a trained Counter Insurgent taught to
think under combat conditions without emotion plus I have Years in
Europe and 13 months of field experience in S.E. Asia fucking with
enemy minds. You are not alone. The V.C., NVA, NOK's, ChiCom and USSR
hated me also. I walked them into many a trap or pissed on their
little world domination schemes. Shit their was a $5,000 reward on my
head, payable to anyone who killed me in the 1960's. See if you can
talk up a reward with the local bootee boys, maybe go to a BOD meeting
and have me declared a enemy of the USPA girly boys---Hey, you pay
your dues, demand some service hahahaha. 0~;->
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 19, 10:40�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>---Like
>> >> >>taking candy from a baby & fun to watch heh heh
>>
>> >> >The irony here is while Bob made the bet
>>
>> >> My mistake - MIKE made the bet - RUN WITH IT JINNIE!!!
>>
>> >> ...bsrp
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>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >It finally occurs to you you're not perfect? Thats progress, now let
>> >work on the pin fear and that bootee crutch of you got going on kid!
>>
>> You're a perfect douchebag, princess - I'll give you that. �As for me,
>> I never claimed to be but you? �Well, feel free to claim how perfect
>> is your douchebaggery.
>>
>> ...bsrp
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>
>I'm just more intelligent than you kid,
Not by a longshot - the examples of your regular stupidities are long
and documented.
>don't take it personal----You
>think with your emotions.
Heh - said the douchebag who, in only the latest of his emotional
revenge fantasies (and the list of such encompasses more than
several), has lately been advocating ~shooting~ someone on the usenet
- someone he's never met. Said the douchebag who is a slave to
appending little chatroom heiroglyphic emoticons towards the purpose
of appending an emotional undercurrent to what he is saying. Said the
douchebag who a short time ago was demanding "blood" because someone
else had an opinion which he did not agree with. Blow it out your
ass, hypocrite.
<Princess Jinnie's repetitive and heard many tiomes before listing of
dubious background and experiences snipped for their banality>
> See if you can
>talk up a reward with the local bootee boys,
Ah, there you go, princess - try the suppostional idea that there is
some idea to get rid of you when that's the furthest thing from the
truth. Oh, POOR widdle Jinnie - so BESET with ENEMIES!!! WAAA!!!
Reward? Got news for you, dipshit - virtualy no one at dropzones
knows who you are. And those remaining who might remember you, don't
give a shit about your little act in here - at least in terms of
bringing you up in conversation which I don't remember happening since
a late night campfire back in 2002 or 3 thereabouts.
>maybe go to a BOD meeting
>and have me declared a enemy of the USPA girly boys-
You're no enemy - just a supid, litlle troll.
>--Hey, you pay
>your dues, demand some service hahahaha.
What would be the point of having a skydiving association have some
stupid, little troll "declared an enemy" beyond affirming to said
stupid, little troll that he is anyting other than a stupid, little
troll? You wanna cast yourself as some "enemy," princess? Well, you
go right ahead - you're still aren't skydiving, no matter how much you
troll a skydiving newsgroup on the usenet. Loser.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
Guess you haven't been on any bigways, have you, kid?
>Who knows, he might renew his USPA once in a while to go jump at one
>of Ohio's big DZ's....No matter, what ever works for him makes me
>happy.
What, not everybody should be jumping at grass strip Cessna non-GM
dz's? Glad to see you're loosening up, finally.
>>
>> >so the next thing a
>> >questioning mind would ask is.....Does he even need to keep up a USPA
>> >membership?
>>
>> If he doesn't jump at a USPA dz, no.
>>
>> >Bob is a free man, you are a lackey of the membership
>> >system.
>>
>> Yo, hypocrite - so at what point did you send off for your USPA
>> licenses and awards? �Pretty much as soon as you were able? �And
>> again, how many non-uspa dz's you ever jump at and how many jumps you
>> ever made while NOT a member of uspa?
>
>Only a few months, thats all I could get by with until manifest caught
>me.
But how many non-uspa dz's you ever jump at - NOT how long you ever
try to jump without a membership at a uspa dz - pay attention,
dumbass.
>..I got to be known as a tricky old man so the USPA Nazi's squealed
>on me on a regular basis cause I just had to be up to something
>besides being a bad influence.
Translated: douchebag with no sense of personal reponsibiltiy thought
the rules he once payed lip service to really only applied to others.
>I posted earlier the USPA worked for me and thousands of others-----
Which doesn't explain your regular and repeated mischaracterizations
of the association and the people in it. But, good to see you're
loosening up on the uspa, finally - especially since you never jumped
anywhere which wasn't uspa.
>Bob just took another path and I'm impressed. There's only 3 or 4
>people on here I admire and two of them are Yankee's. You represent
>one of the the worst problems of the USPA culture, a one dimensional
>under achiever fleecing the novices.
Translation: I call you on your crap. Period. Everything else is
soppostional guesswork, and poor guesswork, at that.
>..A whore of the lowest class.
>Going from DZ to
>DZ, chiseling jump tickets, money and mooching beer--Running up the
>cost of the sport for recreational jumpers. Yep----You I don't like,
>can you tell?
Heh - you are so fucking owned.
>>
>> >.....This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
>> >the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"
>>
>> All you "own," moron, is an ISP address and presumably a keyboard.
>
>Pretty cool huh? A ISP along with a flea market computer, a fairly
>cheap way to own a USPA punk after retirement eh?
Sure beats skydiving, eh, princess?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
>thuythu wrote:
>
> >> >.....This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
> >> >the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"
>
> >> All you "own," moron, is an ISP address and presumably a keyboard.
>
> >Pretty cool huh? A ISP along with a flea market computer, a fairly
> >cheap way to own a USPA punk after retirement eh?
>
> Sure beats skydiving, eh, princess?
>
> ...bsrp
>
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I found after a decade you don't miss it as much although I still look
up and check the sky for blue when I walk outside.
This agitating punks thing? It was much more fun on the DZ where I
could see the resulting brain locks on the next load.
ohhhhhh yeah the hysterical little M'fers just fell apart if you fed
them their own medicine. Team Captains bribed me to leave them alone
during training for immediate competitions----Shit all I had to do was
give a little evil grin and they fell apart---------Power of
suggestion is a wonderful thing ;)
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:30:30 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >maybe go to a BOD meeting
> >and have me declared a enemy of the USPA girly boys-
>
> You're no enemy - just a supid, litlle troll.
>
> ...bsrp
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And you continue to fall for it, how dumb is that? ;->
Jerry K.
As if I didn't know you were a troll in the first place? Cut the
crap. I call you a stupid, little troll - because you are - and all
you got is to suggest that engaging stupid, little trolls is dumb. I
say ~being~ a stupid, little troll is dumb in the first place, but
calling engagement dumb is beside the point and really just your
typical subject change in the face of the undeniable. Silence in the
face of your stupid, little trolling act - the racism, the lies, the
self-centered brags, and the scattershot abuse becomes tacit
acceptance of such - the status quo. Fuck that. You wanna
rationalize your existence in this backwater of the usenet based on
the idea that people who respond are dumb - that you can point to that
which you have determined as dumb and in so doing draw a comparison
with yourself who must be "smarter" (ha!) because you were able to get
someone to respond? As ever - you're just smearing yourself with shit
and taking affirmation that someone notices and tells your shit it
stinks of you ------> stupid, little troll.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 20, 3:08�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>>thuythu wrote:
>>
>> >> >.....This is one of the reasons I own your stupid young ass and
>> >> >the Lodi wiz lifted $20 off a well known "know it all punk"
>>
>> >> All you "own," moron, is an ISP address and presumably a keyboard.
>>
>> >Pretty cool huh? A ISP along with a flea market computer, a fairly
>> >cheap way to own a USPA punk after retirement eh?
>>
>> Sure beats skydiving, eh, princess?
>>
>> ...bsrp
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>
>I found after
<Jinnie's brags of being a typial douchebag snipped>
>suggestion is a wonderful thing
So, I guess it doesn't be skydiving afterall.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Sad thing about it I liked most of the stupid young shits, no matter
how hard I needled them they tried to make friends.
Of course that might have been "What do you do when a bad dog has you
treed? Try to make friends. No go, it wasn't how they treated me but
rather how they treated each other & the struggling jumpers behind
them-----You wanna man up, you have to give up that two faced shit and
get right with everybody. It was more than a culture gap, more like a
thug from a different Century had fallen among them and started
clubbing punks. Square away kid, give up those girlie chicken shit
ways------>Start giving back and maybe I will be merciful and set you
free. ~Do the right thing~
the unknown flailer
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Fish ;)P
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:30:30 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
> >--Hey, you pay
> >your dues, demand some service hahahaha.
>
> What would be the point of having a skydiving association have some
> stupid, little troll "declared an enemy" beyond affirming to said
> stupid, little troll that he is anyting other than a stupid, little
> troll? You wanna cast yourself as some "enemy," princess? Well, you
> go right ahead - you're still aren't skydiving, no matter how much you
> troll a skydiving newsgroup on the usenet.
>
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Well it seems to eat your ass up, looks to me like you would seek help
from the Association and then again,
maybe not....Mike has tried to help you with the answer but my power
over you is so great and the addiction so bad....One would think your
on crack. Man up girly boy and kick the habit. ;-*
Jerry K.
Stupid little troll, none the less.
...bsrp
...jlk
Mike Spurgeon
> On Oct 19, 10:10 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>>> which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
>>> there barn storming at some rural airport
>> Yo, hypocrite - you ever jump at a non-USPA dz? Where Bob jumps at,
>> btw, is open to discussion. So, where does he jump, dumbass?
I'll bet another $100 that the jumps he's recently mentioned here have
nothing to do with USPA DZs.
And it's not because I've read any of your posts. I'm responding to
snuffy who said "which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA
DZ, he's out there barn storming at some rural airport"
Which prompted your drivel.
He interprets much better than you do...
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 20, 2:52�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:30:30 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> You're no enemy - just a supid, litlle troll.
>>
>> >--Hey, you pay
>> >your dues, demand some service hahahaha.
>>
>> What would be the point of having a skydiving association have some
>> stupid, little troll "declared an enemy" beyond affirming to said
>> stupid, little troll that he is anyting other than a stupid, little
>> troll? �You wanna cast yourself as some "enemy," princess? �Well, you
>> go right ahead - you're still aren't skydiving, no matter how much you
>> troll a skydiving newsgroup on the usenet. �
>>
>> ...bsrp
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>
>Well it seems to eat your ass up,
"Seems" to you only because you are incapable of comprehending
motivation beyond your own base instincts.
>looks to me like you would seek help
>from the Association and then again,
>maybe not.
So, on the one hand you say it "seems" a certain way and in the same
sentence admit it "maybe" doesn't "seem" that way. All the while
engaging a weak rhetorical device suggesting one would "seek help"
regarding a stupid litle troll from an "Association" of skydivers and
in so doing displaying a weakness - a need to "seek help" from the
very Association which you in turns mischaracterize, misrepresent, and
denigrate and which you were also a member of for the vitual entirety
of your short tenure in skydiving.
>...Mike has tried to help you with the answer
Mike has in turns bitched and moaned over you getting attention -
essentially asserting that responding to your lame, little act is
counter productive and that to ignore you is to deny you what you want
and as such would supposedly "stop" your stupid, little act. That's
his opinion and he's welcome to it. I disagree but unlike you, I
don't think he's a punk because his and my opinions might disagree.
>but my power
>over you is so great and the addiction so bad..
Grasp it hard and close to you, princess. It's all you got left. The
idea that you have the "power" to smear yourself with shit and in so
doing, displaying the "power" of supposedly causing someone to tell
your shit that it stinks of you. As for "addiction," another
rhetorical device to suggest weakness but which also, in of itself,
contradicts the idea that you wield some sort of "power," who among
the two of us when left alone for a while starts posting and calling
out for the other? Who invokes the other in threads not having
anything to do with the other, and who STARTS threads looking for
attention from the other? You're projecting, princess ... again.
>.One would think your
>on crack. Man up girly boy and kick the habit.
No, crack addiction is much more attuned to seeking out, to the
discounting of all other considerations, crack towards the purpose of
copnsumption for its effects - and you're projecting ... again. One
would think you're a bitter, little man who in skydiving played a
fools hand and got dealt the easily predicted bad card but instead of
manning up and moving on, has sought the illusion of solace on an
elctronic newsgroup on the usenet for skydiving where you can be just
as bad as you imagine yourself to be. More fool you but the reality
is, this newsgroup isn't skydiving and never was. Once it was a place
where you could be the center of a loose orbit of personalities as you
posed the pretense of being the hoary, old "outlaw" skydiver - which
you never were - and now even that's gone and all that remains is a
few who read your crap and even less who might have a comment, and in
so not commenting, affording that much less of a soapbox from which
you can pose and pretend from. It's ~your~ crutch, Jinnie and tough
shit you abused it such that the only kick you have left is the
illusion that you have some sort of control over someone you've never
met or seen. Ya know, ROL's are okay but there's better deployment
systems than ROL.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
And when was this, princess? How long ago?
>--You wanna man up, you have to give up that two faced shit and
>get right with everybody.
Heh - "two faced shit" like calling Mike a punk, Jinnie, and then
backing off from it? That what you mean? So, where and how have I
ever been "two faced?" Here? At the dropzone? When was the last
time you were even at a dropzone, let alone jumped at one?
>It was more than a culture gap, more like a
>thug from a different Century had fallen among them and started
>clubbing punks.
Classic - faced with the reality that you were a green, little novice
having to learn how to survive in an unforgiving sport from people
younger than you, you turned on the pretense full bore that you were
something other, unlike the other green skydivers, which you hoped
would mask that you were, when all was said and done, a low timer.
Sure, you may have realized that new jumpers can invoke a certain
degree of rightous caution in more experienced skydivers and you
played it to the hilt - they knew you were green but you'd play the
crazy card and if you got a reaction, so much the better - at least
they weren't calling you a stupid low timer at that moment. It's so
transparent, Jinnie - you just couldn't handle the idea that skydivers
younger than you could be more proficient at it than you - and that
they'd be right when you were getting it wrong. Some even started
after you, passed you, and went on to jump on formations you weren't
getting asked on - thus earning themselves the "skygod" label from
you. Ah, but you were "clubbing punks" which boils down to you were
just talking shit cause talk's all you had.
>Square away kid, give up those girlie chicken shit
>ways------>Start giving back and maybe I will be merciful and set you
>free. ~Do the right thing~
You first, princess. Cornering your self-centered ass is the right
thing. Skydiving's moved on without you, princess, and has been doing
so for, aside from one spectactular failure on your part, well over a
decade. Yet, here you remain on a skydiving newsgroup on the usenet,
trolling for attention. When you recognize this truth and move on you
will be free but until then, you're just a stupid, little troll.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
wrote:
>the unknown flailer wrote:
>
>> On Oct 19, 10:10 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
>>>> which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
>>>> there barn storming at some rural airport
>
>>> Yo, hypocrite - you ever jump at a non-USPA dz? Where Bob jumps at,
>>> btw, is open to discussion. So, where does he jump, dumbass?
>
>I'll bet another $100 that the jumps he's recently mentioned here have
>nothing to do with USPA DZs.
I won't take that bet because I have no idea one way or the other and
don't give a shit enough about it to bet over it - but then, I haven't
made any assertion as to whether he jumps at a uspa dz or not, have I?
Jinnie, on the other hand has.
>
>And it's not because I've read any of your posts. I'm responding to
>snuffy who said "which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA
>DZ, he's out there barn storming at some rural airport"
>
Yeah, yeah - the threaded newsreader clearly and undoubtedly shows you
responding to a post of Jinnie's so try not to piss yourself over it,
Mike - the worst thing that would happen if you responded to a post of
mine is I might express surprise at you doing so since you said you
weren't reading my posts - don't you worry, you're holding strong.
>Which prompted your drivel.
Whch you didn't read? Where Bob jumps is a fair question and open to
discussion, Mike - especially since someone other than myself brought
it up. So far it's just been Jinnie supposedly knows the answer and
you offering a wager that the jumps he's recently mentioned - demo
jumps I believe - had nothing to do with a uspa dz. Whether they do
or do not, as if I could give a shit, Mike? Jinnie brought it up, not
me, and while Jinnie heralds Bob not jumping at a uspa dz, he remains
a hypocrite as Jinnie's entire jump tenure - short that it was - was
entirely to do with USPA.
>He interprets much better than you do...
Sure, Mike - remember, he called you a punk, not me - I agreed with
you.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 19, 10:10 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:25:06 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> >> >I'll follow up.
>
> >> >> >Bob Church
>
> >> >> Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
>
> >> >> Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
> >> >> its arrival.
>
> >> >> Blue Skies,
>
> >> >> Jerry
>
> >> >Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
> >> >this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
>
> >> As if a Pro License predicates charging for jumps? Cut the crap.
>
> >> >which means no need for a PRO Lic. Nor is he at a USPA DZ, he's out
> >> >there barn storming at some rural airport
>
> >> Yo, hypocrite - you ever jump at a non-USPA dz? Where Bob jumps at,
> >> btw, is open to discussion. So, where does he jump, dumbass?
>
> >I know because I read his posts but ain't telling you, why? Because
> >you are a USPA lackey and jealous as hell besides.
>
> Guess you haven't been on any bigways, have you, kid?
>
> >Who knows, he might renew his USPA once in a while to go jump at one
> >of Ohio's big DZ's....No matter, what ever works for him makes me
> >happy.
>
> What, not everybody should be jumping at grass strip Cessna non-GM
> dz's? Glad to see you're loosening up, finally.
>
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He's at a 1 man non GM DZ. one he hacked out of the wilderness himself
with creative thinking, hustle and help from a friend with a Cessna.
After you bottom feeders suck the life blood out of the sport and it
collapses. Mom & Pop DZ's and a few like Bob out there barn storming
will be all thats left.
I see your ego and greed moving in on the Mom & Pops next because more
than one skydiver will be available to mooch
off of, The rural airports and individual barn stormers? Nah don't see
you showing up in person to ching a ling them....Not enough return for
the effort, besides their will be no packers available. You might have
to do something for yourself-----BUT they are not entirely safe. I see
your petty jealousy trying to get them shut down by squealing to the
FAA about their activities and location. Nope the only hope is a
dose of rat shot for your type kid.
the unknown flailer
As much as Bob has to hustle to get a jump in out in the sticks. its
probably less painful than paying for gas to get to a
USPA DZ hours away and the question was "Does he need to pay for a
USPA Lic if he's not jumping at one of their DZ's"
And the answer to that is a no brainer Jerry girl, even someone as
ignorant as you should be able to come up with the answer
Jerry K.
And you were were and are too stupid and unobservant to see the
question was answered. Better go reread, princess - youre just
sitting and spinning at the moment.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
That's funny - in the past you were blaming such rhetoricually
strident strawmen for the DISAPPEARANCE of the mom and pops and as
such halcyon visions of skydiving has long been your elysium where
skydiving was at its best (when you weren't bragging about jumping at
a big twin otter dz, that is), I guess you should be thanking those
"bottom feeding" strawmen who will change skydiving back to being
almost exclusively mom and pop operations. Keep yourstory straight,
dumbass - remember - those bottom feeding strawmen of yours are
DESTROYING skydiving NOT causing the rise of the mom and pops.
Dumbass.
>I see your ego and greed moving in on the Mom & Pops next because more
>than one skydiver will be available to mooch
>off of,
Of course you "see" that. What your rhetorical claptrap fails to
recognize is that almost literally EVERY dz out there is a mom and pop
- some just more successful than others.
>The rural airports and individual barn stormers? Nah don't see
>you showing up in person to ching a ling them.
Of course you don't "see" that but what you fail to recognize is
except for the demos in and around Houston, all the demos I've ever
jumped into have been in small towns, airports, or otherwise way out
in the boonies.
>...Not enough return for
>the effort, besides their will be no packers available. You might have
>to do something for yourself--
Clutch it close, princess. That warm blanket of supposition. How
many demo jumps you ever get asked on, huih?
>---BUT they are not entirely safe. I see
>your petty jealousy trying to get them shut down by squealing to the
>FAA about their activities and location.
Of course you "see: that but what you fail to recognize is that if I
was on the jump it woukld be kinda counter productive to try to shut
it down and if there was a notam, it would kinda difficult. But you
just keep on imagining how things would be and nevermind how things
actually are. Loser.
>Nope the only hope is a
>dose of rat shot for your type kid.
What's stopping you, princess? Bring it on. Or is just writing and
posting empty threats sufficent enough to make you feel relevant?
Poser.
...bsrp
..jlk
the unknown flailer
>
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fish
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:28 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>
> >He interprets much better than you do...
>
> Sure, Mike - remember, he called you a punk, not me - I agreed with
> you.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
fish heh heh. Matter of fact you're a whopping mackerel Jerry girl
Jerry K.
Names, bluster, and hollow threat are all you have, Jinnie, and boy
that shit stinks of you.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
Stupid little troll.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:37:27 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >On Oct 20, 10:24 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:28 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>
> >> >He interprets much better than you do...
>
> >> Sure, Mike - remember, he called you a punk, not me - I agreed with
> >> you.
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >fish heh heh. Matter of fact you're a whopping mackerel Jerry girl
>
> Names, bluster, and hollow threat are all you have, Jinnie, and boy
> that shit stinks of you.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk
And afraid because you know you do wrong, well you chose the wrong man
to run to and hide behind. Mike is everything
you are not, Marine, JM/I, 30 years or more in the sport, works at a
non GM DZ---No telling how much he has sacrificed for the sport or
given back....I do believe although we both qualified on USMC run
rifle ranges with the M1 Grand, he could put rat shot in your
squirrelly ass faster and from a further distance than I could----The
Marines spent more time on the range than the Navy did. wussy crybaby,
try running to momma---see if she will change your panties. ;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 21, 4:57�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:37:27 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 20, 10:24�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:28 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>>
>> >> >He interprets much better than you do...
>>
>> >> Sure, Mike - remember, he called you a punk, not me - I agreed with
>> >> you.
>>
>> >> ...bsrp
>> >> ...jlk
>>
>> >fish heh heh. Matter of fact you're a whopping mackerel Jerry girl
>>
>> Names, bluster, and hollow threat are all you have, Jinnie, and boy
>> that shit stinks of you.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk
>
>And afraid because you know you do wrong,
What, post to a skydiving newsgroup on the usenet? Yo, hypocrite -
you're the stupid, little troll and liar in this equation. Not me not
skydiving while starting threads calling out for someone else on said
skydiving newsgroup. Not me lying about jumps, time in sport, and a
bunch of other shit on this newsgroup - that's all you. So, what
"wrong" is it I do, princess? Simply deconstruct your poses,
pretenses, and lies? That's about the size of it.
>well you chose the wrong man
>to run to and hide behind. Mike is everything
>you are not,
Heh - what, a punk, like you said he was? I don't believe that,
princess, and like I'm "hiding behind" Mike, now? Explain how this is
done - especially since such might require, you know, Mike's active
participation and cooperation "hiding" me? Last time I checked,
especially in terms of you invoking him now, it ain't me "hiding
behind" Mike, dumbass. As a matter of fact, it's you who seems to be
begging for a rope from him.
>Marine, JM/I, 30 years or more in the sport, works at a
>non GM DZ---No telling how much he has sacrificed for the sport or
>given back....I do believe although we both qualified on USMC run
>rifle ranges with the M1 Grand, he could put rat shot in your
>squirrelly ass faster and from a further distance than I could-
Actually, to present neither of you - not that I believe either of
you would actually do such a thing because Mike likely has more
productive (and legal) things to do than assault strangers with
firearms and you because your fantasies lag way tbehind your abilities
- have yet to show whether such is possible. In other words, I ain't
been shot, yet - what's taking you so long, princess? Is that how the
fantasy goes now, loser? You are so patently UNABLE to consumate
your latest little revenge fantasy that now it's Mike who gets to do
the dirty work for you? Try it and see what happens. Dumbass.
>---The
>Marines spent more time on the range than the Navy did. wussy crybaby,
>try running to momma---see if she will change your panties.
Heh - Seems it ain't gonna be Jinnie shooting firearms at a stranger
he types back and forths with on the usenet but someone else on the
usenet who's supposedly going to do the shooting for him. Yo, dumbass
- youi do realize that if I end up shot somehow or somewhen, not only
have you displayed motive, if not outright admitting a desire to shoot
me, you are now possibly implicating someone else in your little girly
revenge fantasy? Don't you worry your stupid little head, princess
- I don't believe for a second you, Mike, or anybody else is going to
take a shot at me. Loser.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:11:40 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 20, 2:52 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:30:30 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >> You're no enemy - just a supid, litlle troll.
>
> >> >--Hey, you pay
> >> >your dues, demand some service hahahaha.
>
>
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>
>
> Mike has in turns bitched and moaned over you getting attention -
I think its all of the clutter your whining causes, not me getting
attention from a zero that bothers him. Older people
like peace and quite you know!
> essentially asserting that responding to your lame, little act is
> counter productive and that to ignore you is to deny you what you want
> and as such would supposedly "stop" your stupid, little act. .
And he is right------send him another $20
>.Ya know, ROL's are okay but there's better deployment
> systems than ROL.
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
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The BOC was out when I retired, comp people preferred it because of
the lack of turbulence...Several
around Waller used it.....I preferred having the Hackey where it could
be seen. Dunno that may have
been a habit from being in the military so long. I tried one at Quincy
95 on a demo rig, didn't like it.
Some things new I like, most things not. My kids make fun of my
resistance to anything modern.
"Well hell, its hard for the old man to make anything modern work.
Remember that VCR he jumped
up and down on?
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:24:03 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>
> >to run to and hide behind. Mike is everything
> everything but a 1911 and the M79. Weren't many open shots in the jungle or on the river. I found some places
> in Europe for aimed shots over 50 yards, most over 300 yards but the fricking Russians weren't willing to cross the Alps and participate and provide a target......Sayyyy you ain't one of them Commies are you?
>
> Don't you worry your stupid little head, princess
> - I don't believe for a second you, Mike, or anybody else is going to
> take a shot at me. Loser.
>
> ...bsrp
>
> - Show quoted text -
Whats a little rat shot Jerry? No need to get hysterical or even be
concerned---It will probably produce nothing worse
than a slight sting and small rash....You are going to give yourself a
rash being a drama queen about the Plan of the Day anyway. ;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 20, 9:46�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:11:40 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 20, 2:52�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:30:30 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> >> You're no enemy - just a supid, litlle troll.
>>
>> >> >--Hey, you pay
>> >> >your dues, demand some service hahahaha.
>>
>>
> Hide quoted text -
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>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>>
>> >...Mike has tried to help you with the answer
>>
>> Mike has in turns bitched and moaned over you getting attention -
>
>I think its all of the clutter your whining causes, not me getting
>attention from a zero that bothers him. Older people
>like peace and quite you know!
What, you're speaking for Mike now? Whatever. But that's an awful
lot of power you're assigning to my posts, princess - that they are
the "cause" of anything. They're just words on a screen to anyone who
cares to read them and what anyone does reacting to those words is
their own lookout. And I guess if your premise holds any water, that
the source of any perceived problem Mike may supposedly have lies with
"clutter" on this backwater of the usenet, given your presence and
mine, I would contend he's in the wrong place for "peace and quite."
>> essentially asserting that responding to your lame, little act is
>> counter productive and that to ignore you is to deny you what you want
>> and as such would supposedly "stop" your stupid, little act. � .
>
>And he is right------send him another $20
And that's a load of crap. You were a stupid, little troll before I
began deconstructing your lies, poses, and pretenses, and you with no
doubt whatsoever continue your attention grubbing ways when left alone
- to the point of actually starting new threads calling out for
attention, no less, and remain such whether you are ignored or not.
The difference when you are ignored is your abuse and floods tend to
be more scattershot, abusing anyone who gives you attention or even if
they have an opinion different from your own - you were actually
calling for "blood" the last time around. No, Mike is wrong in that
regard and the record detailing this is clear but Mike was right when
he said his dropzone is like the bar business - recession proof - and
you called him a punk for it. Yo, dumbass - Hillcroft and Westheimer
isn't "inside the loop 610," unlike what you said - you gonna bet the
courage of your convictions, princess? Of course not - you say shit
and run.
>>.Ya know, ROL's are okay but there's better deployment
>> systems than ROL.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
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Heheheh - yank the strings and watch the dummy dance! LOL!!!
>The BOC was out when I retired, comp people preferred it because of
>the lack of turbulence...Several
>around Waller used it.....I preferred having the Hackey where it could
>be seen. Dunno that may have
>been a habit from being in the military so long. I tried one at Quincy
>95 on a demo rig, didn't like it.
>Some things new I like, most things not. My kids make fun of my
>resistance to anything modern.
>"Well hell, its hard for the old man to make anything modern work.
>Remember that VCR he jumped
>up and down on?
Ah, stupidity and inability expressed in violent action against
inanimate objects - how very quaint.
<from Precision's website>
Docile and forgiving flight characteristics making the Falcon ideal
for use by students and novice jumpers. The Falcon is a favorite
canopy of many drop zone's Accelerated Freefall applications
LOL!
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 21, 9:46�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:24:03 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> >well you chose the wrong man
>> >to run to and hide behind. Mike is everything
>> >you are not and probably a better shot than I am....After 1966 I pretty much shot on full Automatic with
>> everything but a 1911 and the M79. Weren't many open shots in the jungle or on the river. I found some places
>> in Europe for aimed shots over 50 yards, most over 300 yards but the fricking Russians weren't willing to cross the Alps and participate and provide a target......Sayyyy you ain't one of them Commies are you?
>>
>�> Don't you worry your stupid little head, princess
>> - I don't believe for a second you, Mike, or anybody else is going to
>> take a shot at me. �Loser.
>>
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Whats a little rat shot Jerry?
The answer to that is easy -------> "a little ratshot" is apparently
way outside of your ability to make happen. I'm not stopping you,
princess. What's taking you so long, huh?
>No need to get hysterical or even be
>concerned---It will probably produce nothing worse
>than a slight sting and small rash.
So far, all it's "produced" is disbelief and ridicule.
>...You are going to give yourself a
>rash being a drama queen about the Plan of the Day anyway.
Oh, so it's the " Plan of the Day," now? Try, Latest and 2nd Lamest
Comeuppance Fantasy Thus Far." That's some "Plan" you got going
there, Jinnie. Please let me know when it crosses over into reality
and you'll understand my not holding my breath while you get your shit
together (ha!) which you seem to be having a huge problem with, as
long and as much as you've been talking this idea up - you could have
walked to the dz in the amount of time it's taking you to get the ball
rolling. All talk and no walk. Sin loy, dumbass.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
>
> <from Precision's website>
>
> Docile and forgiving flight characteristics making the Falcon ideal
> for use by students and novice jumpers. The Falcon is a favorite
> canopy of many drop zone's Accelerated Free fall applications
>
> LOL!
>
> ...bsrp
> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>
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Seems to me the first 6 jumps were S/L and then we started FF and it
was called Progressive FF after the S/L JM could no longer see you
between exit & canopy, About that time you picked up one AFF Jump
Master to witness that you were following instructions and completing
the FF chores assigned the canopy's were chosen for wing loading
therefore by jumper weight--I started out on the Man-O-War---Only
jumped the Falcon once during Student training. It seemed only
slightly more responsive than the MOW, All the student canopy's were
well cared for but worn. The porosity was not
low. At about jump 35 I popped $1600 for a new Javelin with Falcon
main, Raven 2, ROL, RSL etc etc but no AAD.
The brand new Falcon was very responsive loaded one to one---Years
later I jumped a demo Sabre at Quincy, My
Falcon flew further and turned quicker in my opinion....may be because
I knew my Falcon...Didn't experience any
painful openings on that Sabre the girly men complained about. Pain
and the tolerance of is related to life style IMHO.
Having been raised on Farm/Ranch's and used to hard knocks, I followed
the Jock route in school and did over a decade of military service, 9
years of it overseas in third world areas, living like the
locals--------> my tolerance for pain may have been higher than the
typical city boys. Do your best to run it down but bottom line I liked
the Falcon although I looked
at one of those new fangled zp 7 cells and liked what I saw.
the unknown flailer
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Just seeing if I could get you to stutter. 0~;->
the unknown flailer
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:37:27 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
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> >On Oct 20, 10:24 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:41:28 -0700, Mike Spurgeon <m...@spurgeon.net>
>
> >> >He interprets much better than you do...
>
> >> Sure, Mike - remember, he called you a punk, not me - I agreed with
> >> you.
>
> >> ...bsrp
> >> ...jlk
>
> >fish heh heh. Matter of fact you're a whopping mackerel Jerry girl
>
> Names, bluster, and hollow threat are all you have, Jinnie
>
> ...jlk
Why do you sweat it so much then? I suspect its a guilty conscience.
Another flaw you have besides fear is calling your seniors a liar. A
sure sign you are one yourself, thieves and liars most often accuse
others of the same behaviour...I've told a few sea stories in my time
but earned the right by long service in the far reaches of the world.
Actually most of them are toned down because people who have
not been on the point of the spear or caught in the heat of guerrilla
war
often misconstrue and might call some nice old man trying to
give palliative care a war criminal. 0~;-*
the unknown flailer
and he goes on whining ;)
>
> Heh - Seems it ain't gonna be Jinnie shooting firearms at a stranger
> he types back and forths with on the usenet but someone else on the
> usenet who's supposedly going to do the shooting for him. Yo, dumbass
> - youi do realize that if I end up shot somehow or somewhen, not only
> have you displayed motive, if not outright admitting a desire to shoot
> me, you are now possibly implicating someone else in your little girly
> revenge fantasy? Don't you worry your stupid little head, princess
> - I don't believe for a second you, Mike, or anybody else is going to
> take a shot at me. Loser.
>
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Jesus, I offer you a way to do something positive for the sport on the
entertainment end and perhaps help pay the DZ's overhead and you freak
out and go all Queenie. I specifically said rat shot----ever hear of
rat shot killing any one? I told you it probably wouldn't even
penetrate all that fancy lad shit you dress up in.... Wussy boy. Get
out there and be a DZ target for the itinerant sportsmen and farmer
McNasty if he's still around Waller. You just won't do your part for
the DZ will you?
Damn useless little slacker, grow some balls. MAN UP ;(pffffffft
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
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> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 19, 10:10 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:25:06 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
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> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 7, 6:24 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 04:35:45 -0700 (PDT), Bob <chur...@ohio.edu> wrote:
> >> >> >I posted twice yesterday and neither one showed up. I'm not sure
> >> >> >what's going on. I'm using googles groups. Both of those were replies
> >> >> >so maybe that's the problem, I'm creating this new.
> >> >> >Sorry Jerry, but I've never had a Pro rating. If this goes through
> >> >> >I'll follow up.
>
> >> >> >Bob Church
>
> >> >> Thanks for the clarification, Bob - my assumption was false.
>
> >> >> Mike, your $20 is inbound and I'd appreciate it if you would confirm
> >> >> its arrival.
>
> >> >> Blue Skies,
>
> >> >> Jerry
>
> >> >Well my inimical little USPA Queen, you have had a few weeks to mull
> >> >this over....Bob is not charging so he's no PRO
>
> >> As if a Pro License predicates charging for jumps? Cut the crap.
>
> >> >there barn storming at some rural airport
>
> >> Yo, hypocrite - you ever jump at a non-USPA dz? Where Bob jumps at,
> >> btw, is open to discussion. So, where does he jump, dumbass?
>
> >you are a USPA lackey and jealous as hell besides.
>
> Guess you haven't been on any bigways, have you, kid?
>
> >Who knows, he might renew his USPA once in a while to go jump at one
> >of Ohio's big DZ's....No matter, what ever works for him makes me
> >happy.
>
> What, not everybody should be jumping at grass strip Cessna non-GM
> dz's? Glad to see you're loosening up, finally.
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I see Bob as special, he should jump where he wants, this is the USA
after all. You are not special, you're a geeky
sky god who thinks flim flaming Novices around USPA DZ's is cool. I am
willing to bust your balls about being a parasite. Thats my opinion
and covered as free speech in the good old USA also. You need your
balls busted on a regular basis......You are also one dimensional, all
you can do is shoot video----That other stuff like the Pro and 4-way
Team activity's is strictly about stroking your own ego and coping
sponsor equipment and making a few bucks on the side. You are the type
who will do the minimum to get the max....A real under achiever, shit
you don't even take grips, you fly camera for the team-----All these
years in the sport, what 14 or so now.....All those jumps and you
don't have the credentials to teach or coach either one-----Rigging is
to much work and has a low money return so you avoided picking that
up. You are less than zero in my book boy, And that bothers you
because I am not shy about calling a spade a spade. So you try to shut
me up but that only seems to make it worse---This shows your not very
smart besides all the other short comings---Not serving your Country
when they called puts you on the shit pile for sure with me....Hey if
you are a coward or 4F, there are other ways of serving. The Peace
Corps, America corps. None
of the options suited you though, for one or two reasons I suspect.
#1 They all require some type of sacrifice.
#2 Your Father was a Nazi sympathizer, you seemed proud of that so
you don't have a great love for this country.
Yeah punk, you ain't worth warm spit in my book and I'll be on your
scrawny ass forever ;-*
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
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> >On Oct 20, 6:37 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:57:40 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
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> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 20, 3:08 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
> >> >>thuythu wrote:
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> >Sad thing about it I liked most of the stupid young shits, no matter
> >how hard I needled them they tried to make friends.
> >Of course that might have been "What do you do when a bad dog has you
> >treed? Try to make friends. No go, it wasn't how they treated me but
> >rather how they treated each other & the struggling jumpers behind
> >them---
>
> And when was this, princess? How long ago?
Its called Human Nature and has been like that since Cain and Able----
Skydivers are the only culture where its blatant.
And mostly its from being mistreated when they were no good in the air
as Novices----They just pass it on to the kid behind them---I guess
thats where the truism "Shit flows down hill began." Its describing
about more than gravity
>
> >--You wanna man up, you have to give up that two faced shit and
> >get right with everybody.
>
> >It was more than a culture gap, more like a
> >thug from a different Century had fallen among them and started
> >clubbing punks.
>
> Classic - faced with the reality that you were a green, little novice
> having to learn how to survive in an unforgiving sport from people
> younger than you, you turned on the pretense full bore that you were
> something other, unlike the other green skydivers, which you hoped
> would mask that you were, when all was said and done, a low timer.
> Sure, you may have realized that new jumpers can invoke a certain
> degree of rightous caution in more experienced skydivers and you
> played it to the hilt - they knew you were green but you'd play the
> crazy card and if you got a reaction, so much the better - at least
> they weren't calling you a stupid low timer at that moment. It's so
> transparent, Jinnie - you just couldn't handle the idea that skydivers
> younger than you could be more proficient at it than you - and that
> they'd be right when you were getting it wrong. Some even started
> after you, passed you, and went on to jump on formations you weren't
> getting asked on - thus earning themselves the "skygod" label from
> you. Ah, but you were "clubbing punks" which boils down to you were
> just talking shit cause talk's all you had.
I don't think you realize how big I was or strong....I could hand load
two or three containers with 45,000 pounds a day in my 50's. Oh sure
the punks tried me, I'd pick them up and throw them against he hanger
wall when they got in my face...So they got scared and bought in a
hired gun, Some kind of kung fooy master. After I whipped his ass some
kid asked----"What happened to the kung foo moves?". "Uh, they don't
work on gorillas or anything inhuman that feels little pain and just
keeps on coming like a tank " So then being chicken shit kids much
like yourself they tried the cheap shots--Like running into me when I
was busy bent over flaking my canopy...Couldn't knock me off balance
or down, so finally one of them hurt his shoulder and they quit
that...Next? two at a time, shit they all weighed 185 or less. I'd
just slam them together...."OK lets jump him when he's on his knee's
bagging his canopy!" First one that jumped on my back ended up on the
deck.....I stacked the next two on top of him...You young pussy's
never worked hard in your life & can't stand pain, on top of that you
haven't reached your prime strength. Shit I was having fun and they
were hurting them selves. Pretty soon it was "Hey, don't fuck with
Snuffy, he's really OK deep down and--He don't play." Hell I was
playing! Fricking kids get a pulled muscle or minor BO BO they have to
run to the ER and can't jump for a month because their sore, pulled a
ligament or have a torn rotor cuff or some such shit because their
limbs were bent into pretzels. tsk tsk tsk what a bunch of
hypochondriacs! I gotta give the a E for effort though! 0~;)P
the unknown flailer
>
> > See if you can
> >talk up a reward with the local bootee boys,
>
> Ah, there you go, princess - try the suppostional idea that there is
> some idea to get rid of you when that's the furthest thing from the
> truth. Oh, POOR widdle Jinnie - so BESET with ENEMIES!!! WAAA!!!
> Reward? Got news for you, dipshit - virtualy no one at dropzones
> knows who you are. And those remaining who might remember you, don't
> give a shit about your little act in here - at least in terms of
> bringing you up in conversation which I don't remember happening since
> a late night campfire back in 2002 or 3 thereabouts.
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Well, that makes what you said before a lie, which I knew it was
because the sport is so transient, new people
coming in old leaving or moving on....Taking into consideration if you
haven't jumped with them lately, your forgotten.
I used to see it all the time, folks who had other things to do or
could only afford to come out every few months.
Nobody knew who the fuck they were----They were ignored, even treated
with suspicion. You were dragging up names of
people who just about had to be retired by now or at least slacked off
or moved on. I played my cards close to the vest though, knowing liars
never remember all their lies and get out of sync. And now you have
busted yourself. Brings to mind my psych profile of motive.....Because
you are always calling me a liar-----Remember: "Thieves and liars
often accuse other people of their own weakness?" This also brings to
mind how many times you have connected Mike to the
word punk by constantly dragging something up, I apologized for years
ago. tsk tsk tsk Book Him Danno! 0~;->
Jerry K.
It's just breaking my heart you have this grand, violent, and
unfulfilled fantasy, princess, and lack the ABILITY and WILL to make
it reality. Sin loy, dumbass.
>>
>> Heh - Seems it ain't gonna be Jinnie shooting firearms at a stranger
>> he types back and forths with on the usenet but someone else on the
>> usenet who's supposedly going to do the shooting for him. �Yo, dumbass
>> - youi do realize that if I end up shot somehow or somewhen, not only
>> have you displayed motive, if not outright admitting a desire to shoot
>> me, you are now possibly implicating someone else in your little girly
>> revenge fantasy? � �Don't you worry your stupid little head, princess
>> - I don't believe for a second you, Mike, or anybody else is going to
>> take a shot at me. �Loser.
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>Jesus, I offer you a way to do something positive for the sport on the
>entertainment end and perhaps help pay the DZ's overhead and you freak
>out and go all Queenie.
Your "offer" is nothing but a "way" illustrating a juvenile and
transparent comeuppance fantasy. Period. Take the shot or get
someone else to take it for you. How hard can that be for you,
princess? If it ain't INABILITY then it must be LACK OF WILL - mouth
writing checks the body can't keep. Or both. Either way, what's
stopping you, slacker?
>I specifically said rat shot----ever hear of
>rat shot killing any one? I told you it probably wouldn't even
>penetrate all that fancy lad shit you dress up in.... Wussy boy.
Well, with just that in mind there should be no stopping you, right? I
haven't been shot yet and as a matter of fact there's been a decided
LACK of anyone shooting firearms at landing skydivers - what's been
stopping you, slacker?
>Get
>out there and be a DZ target for the itinerant sportsmen and farmer
>McNasty if he's still around Waller.
I "get out there", dumbass - what's your excuse? Every time I come
down I might well be a potential " DZ target for the itinerant
sportsmen and farmer McNasty," as well as potentially a DZ target for
you if you weren't just a stupid, little troll blowing smoke out your
ass. What's stopping you?
>You just won't do your part for
>the DZ will you?
If you weren't blowing smoke out your ass, all talk and no walk, you
or a surragate would be there and ready to fire when the load comes
down. I'm doing my "part" in this stupid, little fantasy of yours -
what's stopping you?
>Damn useless little slacker, grow some balls. MAN UP ;(pffffffft
Shit, dumbass, I'm still jumping - where you been? The landing area's
been completely devoid of "itinerant sportsmen and farmer McNasty" AND
YOU with targets galore!
What's stopping you?
Oh, right - you're too focused on blowing smoke out your ass to make
it happen.
I've called your (latest) bluff, moron, and the reality is you've
painted yourself into (yet another) corner. More ass smoke coming? No
surprise there.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 20, 2:52�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> > See if you can
>> >talk up a reward with the local bootee boys,
>>
>> Ah, there you go, princess - try the suppostional idea that there is
>> some idea to get rid of you when that's the furthest thing from the
>> truth. �Oh, POOR widdle Jinnie - so BESET with ENEMIES!!! WAAA!!!
>> Reward? �Got news for you, dipshit - virtualy no one at dropzones
>> knows who you are. �And those remaining who might remember you, don't
>> give a shit about your little act in here - at least in terms of
>> bringing you up in conversation which I don't remember happening since
>> a late night campfire back in 2002 or 3 �thereabouts.
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>Well, that makes what you said before a lie,
What "said before" was a lie, princess? Lay it out.
>which I knew it was
>because the sport is so transient, new people
>coming in old leaving or moving on....Taking into consideration if you
>haven't jumped with them lately, your forgotten.
Oh, so you're saying the fact that you don't signify has more to do
with your decided lack of actual contact with skydiving and time
marching on rather than just forgetting the forgettable.
>I used to see it all the time, folks who had other things to do or
>could only afford to come out every few months.
>Nobody knew who the fuck they were----They were ignored, even treated
>with suspicion. You were dragging up names of
>people who just about had to be retired by now or at least slacked off
>or moved on.
Names such as in terms of invoking your name? Names such as in terms
of failing to invoke your sorry memory? That's a load of crap. I can
name several who were jumping before and during your short tenure who
are still jumping now and who also somehow neglect to bring you up in
a conversation - at least not for six or seven years - no talk of
"reward." You don't signify.
>I played my cards close to the vest though, knowing liars
>never remember all their lies and get out of sync.
Would this be anything like your saying you started skydiving in "89
or 90" being "out of sync" with those "cards close to your chest"
where you said in 1995 that you started two years earlier ... liar?
And that's just one example - there are others.
>And now you have
>busted yourself.
And that's a load of crap, too. Just the latest handfull of turds
you're limply lobbing at the wall and no lying on my part. You posed
the pretense that perhaps there'd be some "reward" on your head. Load
of crap. You don't signify.
>Brings to mind my psych profile of motive.....Because
>you are always calling me a liar-
Yep - supported by empirical fact - clear examples of your lying are
numerous.
>----Remember: "Thieves and liars
>often accuse other people of their own weakness?"
Load of crap and a copout and it still does nothing at all to change
that you are indeed one big, fat, and proven liar. Clear evidence
illustrating this fact can easily be cited and referenced - with your
own words. I defy you either deny this fact or cite where I have
lied ... liar.
>This also brings to
>mind how many times you have connected Mike to the
>word punk
Who was it who called Mike a punk in the first place, dumbass - you
flat out caled him one - I was appalled. That I raise this fact and
shove your face in it does not in the slightest suggest that he is,
unlike your assertion that he was - just for having an opinion which
you knee-jerked spazzed out over. I believe he isn't a punk but you?
You're not so sure, are you.
>by constantly dragging something up,
What, stuff like your posing pretense that you call a "spade a spade?"
Yo, dumbass - if having your face shoved into an example of your own
inability to either keep track or render a credible opinion on Mike is
being illustrated as par for the course and you a moron, maybe you
should have controlled yourself (ha!) and avoided calling Mike a punk
in the first place.
>I apologized for years
>ago. tsk tsk tsk Book Him Danno!
Cut the crap. Years? You called him a punk July 2008 and you've yet
to apologize.
Let's take a look at what you've said about your mischaracterization
of Mike - link provided for context.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/c7171e0d1d8461ed
"Well he was thinking like a punk"
"its the attitude that set me on edge"
"He should know better."
* * *
So, according to you, when Mike said where he's at is like the bar
business - recession proof - you called him a punk - you described his
"thinking" as indicative of a punk, said his attiude set you off
(hello, personal responsibility?), and asserted that he should know
better - nevermind he should already fucking know what he's talking
about in that respect- his dz - far better than some stupid, little
assclown of a troll who has never been to his dropzone and who has a
whopping two skydives in the past 14 years almost. Let's see that
apology you offered "years ago" ... liar. Failing that, the right
thing would be to offer one now since you wre wrong - he isn't a punk,
no matter what you claimed, he was right about his dz - it's something
he should know about and while you're at it, 75 pushups for presently
trying to wheel in another ridiculous load of crap that after you
called Mike a punk, it was something you "apologized for years ago."
Dumbass. Just making it up as you go along, aren't you, Jinnie?
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
Why shouldn't everyone jump where they want?
>You are not special,
So, by that token, you are saying that I should only jump at say, non
USPA dz's? Well, I have jumped at several. How many you ever jump
at, hypocrite?
>you're a geeky
>sky god who thinks flim flaming Novices around USPA DZ's is cool.
And you're a stupid, little troll who from the position of having your
head in your ass has determined without substance what someone you
have never met and never seen on a dropzone is supposedly doing.
>I am
>willing to bust your balls about being a parasite. Thats my opinion
>and covered as free speech in the good old USA also.
Sure you're trying and sure that it is - uninformed and self-serving,
too - government cannot inhibit your speech but this is not to say
someone else on a public forum cannot, and accurately so, illustrate
and detail with proof, logic, and fact that your opinion is a load of
crap.
>You need your
>balls busted on a regular basis.
No - you need to assure yourself you are busting balls - and that's
all that it is - convincing yourself that you are doing what you wish
you could do - which you're not at all as what you're doing is simply
blowing smoke out of your ass and presently trying to cast such
noxious smoke as ball busting.
>.....You are also one dimensional, all
>you can do is shoot video-
That's all you think I can do. It's all you have convinced yourself I
can do - nevermind you actually having absolutely no clue whatsoever
as to how "dimensional" my skydiving might be - all the while
convienently forgetting, and hypocritically so, the dimensionality
(ha!) of your own short time in skydiving.
>---That other stuff like the Pro and 4-way
>Team activity's is strictly about stroking your own ego and coping
>sponsor equipment and making a few bucks on the side.
No - the Pro was because a friend who puts together a lot of area demo
jumps - often charity stuff - needed me for a stadium jump and -
determined I was consistant enough to get it done. I had a day off
and did the ten jumps required - taking the challenge and helping out
another skydiver was the appeal. The team stuff was all about the
team dynamic, jumping with friends, and competing - taking the test -
the sponsorship stuff came a good deal later - only after a lot of
time was put in getting to the point to where sponsors felt it would
be advantageous to sponsor. And the bucks on the side , of course, go
after equipment and upkeep. And beer. Poor widdle Jinnie - jealousy
is an ugly, ugly thing.
>You are the type
>who will do the minimum to get the max.
No - that's a construct in your own thick head built upon the
unsubstantive. Skydiving, like a lot of things, only gives back what
you put into it, if you're lucky. Take your final jump for instance -
you had ample opportunity to prepare for that jump properly,
thoughtfully, and intelligently (ha!) - to do it right - and you blew
it off - just did the minimum - showed up and assured everyone you
could handle it - promised more than you could deliver - with
predictable results.
>...A real under achiever, shit
>you don't even take grips,
And that, too, is an unsubstantiated construct and a load of crap. I
say I do take grips. Got video and stils to prove it and I remind you
again, dumbass, just because you say something is so doesn't mean it
is so - and such usually means quite the opposite.
>you fly camera for the team-----All these
>years in the sport, what 14 or so now.....All those jumps and you
>don't have the credentials to teach or coach either one--
And that, too, is a construct in your own head, dumbass - you don't
even know what you're blowing smoke out of your ass about. And on
that note, hypocrite, did you ever earn any "credentials" at all?
Teaching or coaching? No? Oh, well - if that worked for you, I guess
- you're still a hypocrite to get your panties so twisted over someone
else supposedly not having what you never earned - especially since
you don't really know and it's all in your head.
>---Rigging is
>to much work and has a low money return so you avoided picking that
>up.
Oh, I've packed my own reserve and all that but did you ever get a
rigger's ticket, hypocrite?
>You are less than zero in my book boy,
Which is solid assurance, without a doubt and plain as day, that I
must be on the right path. Your "book" is from the perspective of a
stupid, little troll with a mighty chip on its shoulder and "less than
zero" can only be an indication of much more fun to come and many
happy years of skydiving ahead of me (knock wood). Like Art once told
me - skydiving just keeps getting better and better - I wore his
helmet before you did.
>And that bothers you
>because I am not shy about calling a spade a spade.
Especially when you don't know what you're talking about - like when
you were calling Mike a punk. I was appalled.
>So you try to shut
>me up but that only seems to make it worse
Only an ill-equipped and self-centered (and quite paranoid) assclown
such as yourself would take the regular deconstructions of your lines
of crap as an attempt to "shut" you "up." It's a public forum,
princess. You can post what you want and so can others. Has that
changed? One thing that has changed is the number of people playing
along and facilitating your stupid little trolling act. What's the
count now? Three or four people these days who acknowledge your
existence, maybe? And that's the kicker, ain't it. No one can shut
you up but no one is trying to. But then, this is not to say paying
attention to your stupid, little act is a growing trend, is it,
princess?
>---This shows your not very
>smart besides all the other short comings-
But then, I never claimed to be and when all is said and done, I
haven't been so stupid to crash my "not very smart" ass out of
skydiving (knock wood) for all eternity and basing my presence on this
or any electronic newsgroup on the usenet on lies, poses, pretense,
and the abuse of anyone who either gives me attention or presents an
opinion I might disagree with. "blood must be spilled" "~We must
have this creeps blood~"
>--Not serving your Country
>when they called puts you on the shit pile for sure with me..
Well, I wanted nothing to do with the Navy - the recruiter seemed
awful fruity I recall and what with your line of crap later on it
certainly confirmed my instincts were spot on but this is not to say I
never served. What's the government say about that, Jinnie? Anything
substantive or are you content to simply stick with what you imagine
must be as opposed to what is?
>..Hey if
>you are a coward or 4F, there are other ways of serving. The Peace
>Corps, America corps. None
>of the options suited you though, for one or two reasons I suspect.
And that's a fine example of one of your significant weaknesses - what
makes your general line of crap so runny and foul - you work from
strawman suspician directly triggering uninformed conclusion. You
arrive at pre-determined answers and all you need do is mold your
suspicians, in lieu of facts, to fit the preset determination. There
are ways to stay close to skydiving, princess, and dicking around on a
skydiving newsgroup isn't one of them.
>#1 They all require some type of sacrifice.
This is simply rhetorical crap employed in this case to suggest I have
never made any sacrifices - molding suspician to uninformed conclusion
to fit the pre-determination. Transparent and lame. Just because one
doesn't brag on and on like you do doesn't mean what you don't know
about is any less real.
>#2 Your Father was a Nazi sympathizer, you seemed proud of that so
>you don't have a great love for this country.
That's a load of crap, of course. Making up shit to fit the
pre-determination. You on the other hand have unapologetically
asserted that someone can "look" Jewish - I can cite this of course -
and it's no big stretch to suggest that nazis would be sympathetic to
such a asinine, bigoted, and racist assertion.
>Yeah punk, you ain't worth warm spit in my book and I'll be on your
>scrawny ass forever
Never let it be said that Jinnie isn't unavoidably drawn to that which
he has determined is less in worth than "warm spit" - and you are so
fucking owned.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Oct 20, 10:07�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
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>> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 20, 6:37�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:57:40 -0700 (PDT), the unknown flailer
>>
>> >> <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 20, 3:08�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> >> >>thuythu wrote:
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>> >Sad thing about it I liked most of the stupid young shits, no matter
>> >how hard I needled them they tried to make friends.
>> >Of course that might have been "What do you do when a bad dog has you
>> >treed? Try to make friends. No go, it wasn't how they treated me but
>> >rather how they treated each other & the struggling jumpers behind
>> >them---
>>
>> And when was this, princess? �How long ago?
>
>Its called Human Nature and has been like that since Cain and Able----
And here you are bitching about "Human Nature." None too zen
budda-kup
>Skydivers are the only culture where its blatant.
Oh, so it's how "blatant" it supposedly is which has you so torqued
and bitching about "Human Nature" which "has been like that since Cain
and Able.
>And mostly its from being mistreated when they were no good in the air
>as Novices----They just pass it on to the kid behind them---I guess
>thats where the truism "Shit flows down hill began." Its describing
>about more than gravity
So, it's not so much the present day perpetrators but those who
committed the original sin - or at least those sinners during the
short period of time you jumped - and here you are now moaning over
those who supposedly perpetrate such here on down the line nevermind,
as you suggest, it's all a part of human nature. You got a problem
apparently with skydivers not acting against the grain of that which
you admit is their human nature. That they don't conform with what
you would prefer they conform to - nevermind you are guilty of the
very same - with the vital difference that you do such as a pose,
pretending to be an experienced skydiver which has been shown to be
actually a dishonest pose, both in scope and in time.
>>
>> >--You wanna man up, you have to give up that two faced shit and
>> >get right with everybody.
>>
>> >It was more than a culture gap, more like a
>> >thug from a different Century had fallen among them and started
>> >clubbing punks.
>>
>> Classic - faced with the reality that you were a green, little novice
>> having to learn how to survive in an unforgiving sport from people
>> younger than you, you turned on the pretense full bore that you were
>> something other, unlike the other green skydivers, which you hoped
>> would mask that you were, when all was said and done, a low timer.
>> Sure, you may have realized that new jumpers can invoke a certain
>> degree of rightous caution in more experienced skydivers and you
>> played it to the hilt - they knew you were green but you'd play the
>> crazy card and if you got a reaction, so much the better - at least
>> they weren't calling you a stupid low timer at that moment. �It's so
>> transparent, Jinnie - you just couldn't handle the idea that skydivers
>> younger than you could be more proficient at it than you - and that
>> they'd be right when you were getting it wrong. �Some even started
>> after you, passed you, and went on to jump on formations you weren't
>> getting asked on - thus earning themselves the "skygod" label from
>> you. �Ah, but you were "clubbing punks" which boils down to you were
>> just talking shit cause talk's all you had.
>
>I don't think you realize how big I was or strong....I could hand load
>two or three containers with 45,000 pounds a day in my 50's.
Whoopty shit. You forget I jump with skydivers who came both before
and during your short tenure in skydiving - they've never mentioned
you "clubbing punks," or otherwise demonstrating any of these
purported violent tendencies but then admittedly, I can't remember you
cming up in any conversation since 2002 or thereabouts and that was a
bonfire story about bad landings and dangerous idiots.
>Oh sure
>the punks tried me, I'd pick them up and throw them against he hanger
>wall when they got in my face.
Unless of course you high tailed it up a tree and later off the dz
because some girls were looking to get in your face. There is that.
<Jinnie's halcyon account of "clubbing punks" snipped>
Wow, Jinnie - sure beats skydiving, eh?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
>
> >> >--You wanna man up, you have to give up that two faced shit and
> >> >get right with everybody.
>
> >> >It was more than a culture gap, more like a
> >> >thug from a different Century had fallen among them and started
> >> >clubbing punks.
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WHAT, Juvenile? Hell yes I was a skydiver wasn't I ? The sports full
of juviniles....A man in his late 50's takes up the sport?
Hell yes he has to have a juvenile attitude to some extent. Believe in
Hoot Gibson, young women, fast horses and smooth whiskey and doing the
right thing, see thats where you punks diverge---You ain't done a hard
days work in the field chopping or pulling cotton, milking cows,
feeding chickens, sloping hogs, rounding up stray cows or worked with
your hands since you were born plus you don't know the difference
between right and wrong or who Hoot Gibson is either most
probably...Squeal like a pig for me boy! That all your good for
because you're just another chiseling punk mostly sponging off yuppies
around the DZ. Thats what I think--------->LOG IT!!! ;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Nov 19, 10:10�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> >--You wanna man up, you have to give up that two faced shit and
>> >> >get right with everybody.
>>
>> >> >It was more than a culture gap, more like a
>> >> >thug from a different Century had fallen among them and started
>> >> >clubbing punks.
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>WHAT, Juvenile?
How about infantile?
>Hell yes I was a skydiver wasn't I ? The sports full
>of juviniles....A man in his late 50's takes up the sport?
"Late 50s" ? Try mid-50's. Jinnie, you are one pathetic liar.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.skydiving/msg/9d51cff65815fb07
"I started at 225 and 54 years old"
Shit too easy.
>Hell yes he has to have a juvenile attitude to some extent.
"To some extent" - nice little stupid and wishy washy qualifier there,
dumbass. Claiming some bogus legitimacy to being juvenile - not that I
called you such in this thread - by parsing it as something inherant
in skydivers is another lame copout - especially since you don't
skydive and haven't in nine days shy of TEN YEARS.
>Believe in
>Hoot Gibson, young women, fast horses and smooth whiskey and doing the
>right thing,
You forgot other rhetorical bullshit name drops and stalwarts like
Maurice Chevalier, "widder women," mules, and "smooth brandy" Yo,
dumbass - if you believe in "doing the right thing," where was this
"belief" every time you gargled a(nother) big, fat lie?
>see thats where you punks diverge---You ain't done a hard
>days work in the field chopping or pulling cotton, milking cows,
>feeding chickens, sloping hogs, rounding up stray cows or worked with
>your hands since you were born
Cut the crap. You've decided this must be so but you don't really
know. Just as easy I can say you've never wrangled horses, cut cane,
cleared land, felled trees, raised a barn, shingled roofs, or roped
and branded cattle. You see, you got it in your pointy little head
that you having once had some sort of rustic experience makes you
special and are so self-centered on this idea of being special, and
more importantly, being recognized as special, that you cannot imagine
anyone else also having some sort of rustic experience - least of all
someone who calls you on your crap. Got news for you, dumbass, you
don't know what you're talking about. I've got more rustic experience
than you clearly can imagine - and imagination's all you got - but
unlike you, I see the banality of trying to throw such beside the
point crap around on a skydiving newsgroup in the first place as a
means to set one's self apart. Poser.
>plus you don't know the difference
>between right and wrong
Oh, I know the difference, clearly so, and you're about as wrong as it
gets. You lie about your skydiving (among various other things), not
I. You say you know what's "Jewish looking" and how certain music is
only for certain people of certain ethnic backgrounds living in
certain economic circumstances and I know how wrong you are. It's
certainly easy for you to say you know the difference between right
and wrong but the record is littered with and remarkably clear as to
the choices you've made between the two - easier said than done. Want
me to cite examples illustrating just how you are projecting (again)
and it is you who does not know the difference, dumbass? Rub your
face in it that much more? You know I can.
>or who Hoot Gibson is either most
>probably.
Ah, the "most probably" qualifier. Thereby if I didn't know you would
say you were right and if I did know, you could claim you weren't
wrong. Explain how knowing who Hoot Gibson is is relevant. I know who
he is - a pilot as well as other more famous things. Tell me what
airplane Hoot crashed or even where or when he did since you "believe"
in Hoot so much, poser. Hint: it was years before you were born.
>..Squeal like a pig for me boy! That all your good for
>because you're just another chiseling punk mostly sponging off yuppies
>around the DZ. Thats what I think--------->LOG IT!!! ;)P
Ah, Jinnie - if they're not responding it's because you've "kicked
their ass' or some such and if they are, they're sqeualing "like pigs"
or some such. The reality is, it's just your crap getting called for
the stinking piles that they are and you for the posing liar that you
are. Why weren't you at the USPA Nationals this year, Jinnie?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
Why weren't you at the USPA Nationals this year, Jinnie?
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Not interested, why the give medals to video geeks is beyond
me....They don't take grips, all they do is lurk!
Video should be handled like the POPS Nationals. Use a video pool and
draw to match cameramen up with
4-way teams. The USPA change some shit and make it more interesting
and challenging I might come and watch.
But then again, maybe not...I don't go watch golf tournaments. 4-way
competition is just as boring as golf if your not participating. If I
went at all it would be to watch the style and accuracy nationals or
perhaps CRW competitions at the National level. You know something far
more challenging than a bunch of pissy ass little 4-ways and their
fifth wheel
slot--------->The Lurker, and that fifth wheel would be somebody like
you! heh heh 0~;-*
Jerry K.
Heheheheh - your loss.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
I think pool video levels the playing field and would actually prove
who was best...We could petition the BOD for
a pool video pin---You might get more respect around the DZ that way
Jerr. BTW won't be long and its tax time
be sure to include your chiseling money...Not only do I get two Govt
checks but received letters from both the
VA & SSA they were increasing the monthly amount $249 on one and &
$147 on the other. The Govt needs to buy
wiz bang weapons for the modern military and support a bunch of old
buzzards at the same time, they need all the money they can get so you
should give more considering you stayed behind with the women and
children like
the little punk you are. We will call it the 4P tax in honor of the
old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
during WWII. Care to hear what the P Stands for or can you guess?
0~;-*
Jerry K.
As usual, you're not thinking it through, don't know what you're
talking about, and your opinion is uninformed. Who was "best?"
Classic Jinnie - in your asinine world of pissing contests it's not
about the objective measure - points in a set amount of time - but the
subjective - who is "best."
First off, there hasn't been an official pool at the USPA Nationals
since 1999 - I was there, I was in that pool, and teams were getting
screwed by camera-flyers not familiar with the assigned team's exit
count. I didn't have any problems - shot my team and Mr. Pink's 4way
and was even asked to shoot the Knights by the video organizer after
the Knight's camera-flyer had NJ'd them on two jumps due to equipment
issues - but watch Jinnie float the obvious canard.
Second - explain how a camera flyer not familiar with the team he
might be assigned to shoot is somehow better prepared than a camera
flyer who has had opportunities to fly with that team?
Third - at the time team camera-flyers were naturally included as a
part of the team (as they are now), with the difference that if there
was a NJ, a team with their own camera-flyer had no recourse other
than to achieve the maximum of one additional point on the re-jump
whereas in the case of a team with pool camera-flyer NJ, what the
score on their rejump came to was not limited by that rule. In other
words, after being encouraged to bring their own cameraflyer, teams
were potentially penalized for doing so.
Fourth - After that year, noting the pitfalls of the pool system in
practice and the work to assemble a pool before the meet - and that
succesfful teams had blown off the pools years before as they used
their own team cameraflyer, USPA decided to even the playing field -
teams would be responsible for providing their own video. Period.
It's been that way ever since and works fine.
Fifth - Since that year there has always been an unofficial pool at
the Nationals which runs along the lines of if a team shows up without
one or lost their cameraflyer in the course of the meet, word would
get out and someone would be found to fill in - but this is the
important part - it wasn't you get one cameraflyer on one jump and who
knows who on the next like in a pool, but that replacement cameraflyer
remains with that team for the rest of that competition - unless he
has a problem and can't continue, of course. Plus, and this was one
of the achilles heals of the pool system - one cameraflyer for a team
cannot shoot another team in that specific competition, just as any
one team member cannot fly on another team in that specific
competition.
>..We could petition the BOD for
>a pool video pin-
Who's this we, dumbass? Make it happen. What's that? Easier to blow
smoke out your ass? That's nothing new. Besides, I got something
cooler than a stupid pin - a whole bunch of cool skydiving video and
on top of that, if I was so affirmation starved as you are to the
point to where a stupid pin stands as a substitute for legitimacy -
"look at me and my pin!!!" I could just buy a stupid pin with the
money I make on just a single jump.
>--You might get more respect around the DZ that way
>Jerr.
Shit, any respect at a dz is more than you ever had and a pin for such
a thing? I've been in more pools than you have actual jumps in actual
meets. And then there's the "respect" thing. Don't you worry your
pointy little head over it, Jinnie - getting asked to make jjumps with
my friends is respect enough. Guess you haven't been on any bigways,
have you, kid?
>BTW won't be long and its tax time
>be sure to include your chiseling money.
Shit, it's only fair, given the huge tax refunds I get every year from
being able to legally write off stuff like gear, gear upkeep,
equipment, airline tickets to various skydiving destinations, mileage
if I drive to or from work out to the dz - I mean, if I didn't include
all the money I make shooting other skydivers then I couldn't write
off all the other stuff. Just think, Jinnie - if I wasn't getting all
those legal refunds, you might have gotten a bigger pittance upgrade
on your monthly pittance. ROFLMAO!!
>..Not only do I get two Govt
>checks but received letters from both the
>VA & SSA they were increasing the monthly amount $249 on one and &
>$147 on the other.
Whoopty shit - pocket change. I can make more than that increase in a
single day. Don't spend it all in one place, junior.
>The Govt needs to buy
>wiz bang weapons for the modern military and support a bunch of old
>buzzards at the same time, they need all the money they can get so you
>should give more considering you stayed behind with the women and
>children like
>the little punk you are.
Shit, Jinnie tht's quite a setup with the bragging about more money
coming in - very merchant mentality btw - just to spit out that I'm
the latest person to be called a punk by you. But then, given you've
called Mike that and more telling, the fact that you're just a bitter
wannabe who never was, "punk" from you is high praise indeed.
>We will call it the 4P tax in honor of the
>old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
>during WWII.
Who's this "we," dumbass? Call whatever you're gassing about what you
want - it's not like it has any bearing in the real world.
>Care to hear what the P Stands for or can you guess?
Poser is the term which fits you exactly but feel free to gargle
whatever epithet you will and I'll just console myself with more
skydiving.
Five days to the 10th anniversary of your last jump, princess - got
any plans to celebrate? Maybe some over-cooked biscuits to chew on or
a ride around the neighborhood in the local meat-wagon for old time's
sake?
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:08 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>
> >..We could petition the BOD for
> >a pool video pin-
>
> >We will call it the 4P tax in honor of the
> >old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
> >during WWII.
>
> Who's this "we," dumbass?
I don't want or need one so the we must be you
>
> >Care to hear what the P Stands for or can you guess?
>
> Poser is the term which fits you exactly but feel free to gargle
> whatever epithet you will and I'll just console myself with more
> skydiving.
Nope "pussy" not just any pussy but a forth rate one
>
> Five days to the 10th anniversary of your last jump, princess - got
> any plans to celebrate? Maybe some over-cooked biscuits to chew on or
> a ride around the neighborhood in the local meat-wagon for old time's
> sake?
>
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You have been in the sport 14 going on 15 years, I know this because
you went through FJC about the time I had
my stroke....Lets see 15 years and no JM endorsement, not even a
coaching ticket? Better jump on the pool pin kid.
Give the Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooser a video pool pin, he's a
career lurker. smooch booty and go for the pin punk! 0~;-*
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 2:26�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:08 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>
>>
>> >..We could petition the BOD for
>> >a pool video pin-
>
>>
>> >We will call it the 4P tax in honor of the
>> >old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
>> >during WWII. �
>>
>> Who's this "we," dumbass? �
>
>I don't want or need one so the we must be you �
You "don't want or need one," yet you can't help but invoke this "we."
No, ~you~ "could petition the BOD for a pool video pin" if, that is,
you weren't just, as per standard, blowing smoke out your ass.
>>
>> >Care to hear what the P Stands for or can you guess?
>>
>> Poser is the term which fits you exactly but feel free to gargle
>> whatever epithet you will and I'll just console myself with more
>> skydiving. �
>
>Nope "pussy" not just any pussy but a forth rate one
AKA - a current skydiver who shoves your lame line of crap back in
your face. Log it.
>
>>
>> Five days to the 10th anniversary of your last jump, princess - got
>> any plans to celebrate? �Maybe some over-cooked biscuits to chew on or
>> a ride around the neighborhood in the local meat-wagon for old time's
>> sake?
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>You have been in the sport 14 going on 15 years, I know this because
>you went through FJC about the time I had
>my stroke..
>..Lets see 15 years and no JM endorsement, not even a
>coaching ticket?
Naw, fourteen and change. Not that you ever earned such a thing (or
lasted much more than 20% of that time-span and, btw, you still don't
know what you're talking about - just substituting what must be
because it serves the rhetoric for what actually is, which decidedly
is counter to that rhetoric.
>Better jump on the pool pin kid.
>Give the Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooser a video pool pin, he's a
>career lurker. smooch booty and go for the pin punk!
And here's the part that chaps your ass - still current. Never felt
obligated to lie about time in sport (or formations among a variety of
other things). Never crashed my dumb ass out for all eternity for
lack of simply thinking things through (knock wood). They give Whuffo
Pins for idiots and posers relegated to the ground for their own
stupidities? Order of the Ebon Tarmac, maybe? Or how 'bout the
Jinnie Sniff Memorial Booby Prize? Write USPA, kid - they might give
you one for free.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Nov 24, 2:26 pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:08 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>
> > >..We could petition the BOD for
> > >a pool video pin-
>
> > >We will call it the 4P tax in honor of the
> > >old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
> > >during WWII.
>
> > Who's this "we," dumbass?
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Who is the we? You are my bitch so you round out the twosome in "we."
I want to get you a pool pin to satisfy
the craving for prestige your ego requires....Maybe then you will quit
trying to steal credit for other jumpers
RW medals. I do this for skydivers who take grips world wide because
I'm a Saintly old man, you come
back from the Nationals after fucking off and lurking all week and say
"LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE WON"
People around the DZ might act impressed but they are thinking "We?
You don't take grips you phony dick wad."
So you ain't fooling anyone but yourself.....Now put on the pool pin
I'm offering and shut up Jerry ! 0~;)P
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 5:44�pm, the unknown flailer <thuy...@iwon.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 2:26�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:08 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>>
>> > >..We could petition the BOD for
>> > >a pool video pin-
>>
>> > >We will call it the 4P tax in honor of the
>> > >old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
>> > >during WWII. �
>>
>> > Who's this "we," dumbass? �
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>
>Who is the we? You are my bitch so you round out the twosome in "we."
Except it is ~you~, and only you, in your "We will call it the 4P tax
in honor of the old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
during WWII. You can call it whatever you will but it won't change
the smell.
>I want to get you a pool pin to satisfy
>the craving for prestige your ego requires..
Except I have no interest in some "pin," imagined or otherwise but
don't let that stop you - you go ahead and get that "pool pin" - get
after it. Stop blowing smoke out your ass with just saying what ~you~
"want to get" and make it happen. As if you could? Ha!
>..Maybe then you will quit
>trying to steal credit for other jumpers
>RW medals.
Ah, poor Jinnie. So pathetic. Cornered at every turn and slapped
around for the poser, liar, and hypocrite that he is - all that's left
is to make up shit, bogus assertions entirely without substantiation,
just thrown out there for the sake of either the idea of suggestion
somehow equals to fact or the idea that reverting to tired bullshit
will somehow evoke some vitriolic response. Maybe someday Jinnie will
quit trying to lie about himself and about others, pretending he once
was what he never was, accusing that others are what he only imagines,
and trying to steal for himself the mantle of wisdom and experience
and al that such would suggest - if it were true, which it never was.
And monkeys may well someday fly from his ass - but, I doubt it.
>I do this for skydivers who take grips world wide because
>I'm a Saintly old man,
That's a load of crap. You do "this" for yourself and yourself, only.
"Skydivers who take grips world wide" are decidedly lacking in
participation on this forum and the "Saintly" are neither liars,
posers, or hypocrites, as you most certainly and provenly are, and
most importantly, the "Saintly" have no need to go around assuring
whoever will listen that they are. Poser.
>you come
>back from the Nationals after fucking off and lurking all week and say
>"LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE WON"
And that's a load of crap, too. Never have I done that or said that.
(Someone bothering the stupid, little troll, yet?) Further, ~you~
come back from some scrambles meet where you made a single competition
jump in that meet and where you were held stable by three other
skydivers and gargle, "BUT I GOT A NATIONAL MEDAL DAMMIT!!" (and
that's a direct quote). Hypocrite.
>People around the DZ might act impressed but they are thinking "We?
>You don't take grips you phony dick wad."
Ah, yes <sarcasm, dummy> they just HAVE to be "thinking" that because
you have imagined it so. Actually, upon return it was simply,
"Congratulations and good job - looks like y'all had fun out there!"
>So you ain't fooling anyone but yourself.
Your projection runneth over, princess - bigtime.
>....Now put on the pool pin
>I'm offering and shut up Jerry !
Conjour this "pool pin" (out of thin air, apparently), first. Make
it happen. Stop blowing smoke out your ass. Same old shit just as
when you were spazzing out over your puerile shooting skydivers with
firearms as a means to help dropzones (yeah, right) idea dissolved in
the light of reality lighting up among other things, your rank
inability. It somehow became my fault for your dumb idea not
happening when it was your dumb idea to begin with and incumbent upon
you to make happen. How hard can procuring a simple pin be, moron?
Easier said than done, apparently - you gotta pull your head out of
your ass for starters and time has shown that you prefer the view from
in there. As for you wanting me to "shut up?" If the situation were
reversed you'd be whining over "Freedom of Speech" - you've done it
before in the face of simple deconstructions of your lines of crap. Of
course, Freedom of Speech is specific in terms of the Government can't
impede that Freedom - nothing about someone else making another shut
up. So, make me, loser. Blowing smoke out of your ass, while greatly
amusing to watch, is proving to be mighty ineffectual.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:08 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>
>
> >who was best.
>
> As usual, you're not thinking it through, don't know what you're
> talking about, and your opinion is uninformed. Who was "best?"
> Classic Jinnie - in your asinine world of pissing contests it's not
> about the objective measure - points in a set amount of time - but the
> subjective - who is "best."
>
> First off, there hasn't been an official pool at the USPA Nationals
> since 1999 - I was there, I was in that pool, and teams were getting
> screwed by camera-flyers not familiar with the assigned team's exit
> count.
If they arn't good enough to overcome difficulties like that, they
shouldn't compete.
>
> Second - explain how a camera flyer not familiar with the team he
> might be assigned to shoot is somehow better prepared than a camera
> flyer who has had opportunities to fly with that team?
Someone told them life was easy...The truly outstanding overcome
difficulties..Thats what makes competition awards mean something. I
suppose we should adjust the medal standards and add two more
divisions...
Who has the most excuses? Gold/Silver and Bronze
Who wined the most? Gold/Silver and Bronze
Give Jerry something for making the competition a fucking joke----->a
pink pool pin
Its human nature to want it easy....Not only that but its normal for
competitors to want to stack the deck in their favor and use their own
cameraman who will try to hide the flaws and even film out a missed
grip rather than a impartial one who will
shoot the real story.
>
> >..We could petition the BOD for
> >a pool video pin-
>
>I could just buy a stupid pin with the
> money I make on just a single jump.
>
> ...bsrp
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Ahhhh your true nature comes out, did you offer to pay quite money to
the people you stole medal credits from? That
your M.O. buy what you don't have the talent to earn or can't steal?
You're defiantly the USPA type but you might also be BOD material
kid...Do the right thing for a change, earn a pool pin. Prove me
wrong.
Shit, if you can't even spell flier, I can't get you a pin---Go on
ahead stealing credit for those no grip medals bitch!
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 2:26�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:15:08 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>> >I think pool video levels the playing field and would actually prove
>> >who was best.
>>
>> As usual, you're not thinking it through, don't know what you're
>> talking about, and your opinion is uninformed. �Who was "best?"
>> Classic Jinnie - in your asinine world of pissing contests it's not
>> about the objective measure - points in a set amount of time - but the
>> subjective - who is "best."
>>
>> First off, there hasn't been an official pool at the USPA Nationals
>> since 1999 - I was there, I was in that pool, and teams were getting
>> screwed by camera-flyers not familiar with the assigned team's exit
>> count. �
>
>If they arn't good enough to overcome difficulties like that, they
>shouldn't compete.
But clearly such did compete, just the same. "Overcoming
difficulties" such as anticipating the variety of mechanics in play on
a formation launch amongst a variety of separate teams comes with
practice and during competition is the wrong time to practice exits
while figruing specific team exit mechanics. Eliminating an official
pool which would guarrantee that camera flyers unfamiliar with a
particular team would be having to adjust and figure it out in
competition solved that problem. It sure is easy for you to say "If
they arn't good enough to overcome difficulties like that, they
shouldn't compete" but how do you know if they are or are not "good
enough?" The video captain as he was gathering the pool in the months
before the meet required a videotape of cameraflyers showing their
ability for review prior to acceptance into the Nationals pool - which
people did. Based on that he contacted those who had demonstrated
ability and they were allowed into the pool. But teams still got
hosed because no matter how experienced a cameraflyer is, he is more
likely to get it right with a group he has practiced with than one he
has not practiced with. Requring dedicated team camerflyers by ending
the pool system encouraged judgeable video - which was the goal.
>>
>> Second - explain how a camera flyer not familiar with the team he
>> might be assigned to shoot is somehow better prepared than a camera
>> flyer who has had opportunities to fly with that team?
>
>Someone told them life was easy...The truly outstanding overcome
>difficulties.
You haven't answered the question - guess you don't have a relevant
answer so I'll answer it for you - a camera flyer who is familiar with
a team is better prepared to shoot the dive and provide judgeable
video than one that is unfamiliar with that team. Period. You see
this as all about a demonstration of strength - triumphing over
adversity - standing out - when the reality is this is about providing
judgeable video. Period.
>.Thats what makes competition awards mean something.
Ah, there you go, Jinnie - crowing over the symbols but forgetting the
substance. It's not about "competition awards " but simply
competition in of itself. Taking the test. The final score is what
it is, with or without some "competition award" to wave around. Of
course, you have one, as in a single competition jump in one meet
total so you will probably never understand this truth.
>I
>suppose we should adjust the medal standards and add two more
>divisions...
>Who has the most excuses? Gold/Silver and Bronze
>Who wined the most? Gold/Silver and Bronze
>Give Jerry something for making the competition a fucking joke----->a
>pink pool pin
Gee, someone bothering the stupid, little troll, yet, and who's this
"we," princess? The reality is the "medal standards" simply apply to
the three teams which scored the most points, had the best day, over
the course of the meet - nothing more. Utilizing a pool wasn't
getting the job done for every team's and to USPA's satisfaction. The
"playing field" was being shaded by a luck of the draw. Those teams
using the pool which got a cameraflyer who could antificpate and
handle the unexpected were dealt a good card. Those teams using the
pool who were assigned camera flyers who NJ'd them, obviously were
dealt a bad card. Eliminating the pool eliminated that particular
factor of pure chance even coming into play.
It's not about ease for the cameraflyer - pull your head out of your
ass - it's about providing judgeable video for the judges without
having to make a re-jump because of circumstances entirely out of the
team's control.
>...Not only that but its normal for
>competitors to want to stack the deck in their favor and use their own
>cameraman who will try to hide the flaws and even film out a missed
>grip rather than a impartial one who will
>shoot the real story.
What a load of crap. You don't know what the hell you're talking
about. Explain how a cameraflyer can hide a missed grip? If the
judge doesn't see the grip he doesn't just assume it must be there but
judges it missed, moron. "Film out?" What the hell is that? Got
news for you, dumbass, the judges look for grips completing the
formation and there is not a single thing a cameraflyer can do to show
a grip which isn't there or "hide a grip" which isn't there. If it
isn't in the frame it never happened. Period. That has got to be one
of the more stupid things you've ever said - "film out a missed
grip" You just don't have a clue, do you, Jinnie?
>>
>> >..We could petition the BOD for
>> >a pool video pin-
>>
>>I could just buy a stupid pin with the
>> money I make on just a single jump.
>>
>> ...bsrp
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>
>Ahhhh your true nature comes out, did you offer to pay quite money to
>the people you stole medal credits from?
Hell, Jinnie - when did you stop beating your wife?
>That
>your M.O. buy what you don't have the talent to earn or can't steal?
But, by your earlier assertions, such things were stolen - now you're
suggesting things were bought? This is a turnaround. Like I said, I
certainly could buy the stupid pin you've imagined (if it existed,
that is) but this is not to say that I would and certainly because
this stupid pin you've imagined is exactly that - imagined, clearly
this is not to say that I have.
>You're defiantly the USPA type but you might also be BOD material
>kid...Do the right thing for a change, earn a pool pin. Prove me
>wrong.
Well, if this "pool pin" you've imagined into being required perhaps
actually being in a pool of cameraflyers, that is not beyond the
realm of my experience and, of course, I bet you I could show video
from meets demonstrating the participation in some video pool - but I
wouldn't do this to get your dumb imaginary pin - but just to
illustrate that upon demonstration of camera pool experience, you
would welch out and fail to conjour your stupid "pool pin" nto
existance thus demonstrating how enitrely lacking in ability you
really are, how this "pool pin" is nothing more than you once again
blowing smoke out your ass, and, of course, apparently how much you
enjoy the taste of crow.
>Shit, if you can't even spell flier, I can't get you a pin---Go on
>ahead stealing credit for those no grip medals bitch!
Heheheh - yep, all I had to do was let the girls hang those medals
around my neck - the perfect crime. Behold as Jinnie scrambles for
the flimsy straw which became retread chaff a long time ago - yep, he
slips into his little spell nazi meter maid outfit, heels and all, and
hands on hips it's a bail to spelling on the usenet - as he misspells
in the very same post. LOL!!! Moron.
...bsrp
...jlk
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:26 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Except it is ~you~, and only you, in your "We will call it the 4P tax
> in honor of the old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
> during WWII. You can call it whatever you will but it won't change
> the smell.
>
> >I want to get you a pool pin to satisfy
> >the craving for prestige your ego requires..
>
> Except I have no interest in some "pin,"
Only because you know you are not good enough to get one without my
excellent coaching motivation, you might have
squeezed out of Navy boot camp and some mean ass old Petty Officers
attention by shirking any responsibility to serve our
Country so I'm giving you the shaft now who knows, you might be good
enough for a pool pin someday and want to thank
me for pointing out your short comings and squaring your weak young
ass away the old fashioned way...No need to thank
me now you can salute the flag later
> >..Maybe then you will quit
> >trying to steal credit for other jumpers
> >RW medals.
>
>, I doubt it.
>
> >I do this for skydivers who take grips world wide because
> >I'm a Saintly old man,
>
> That's a load of crap. You do "this" for yourself and yourself, only.
> "Skydivers who take grips world wide" are decidedly lacking in
> participation on this forum
>
Even more Saintly....I do it for people who will never know and no
reward other than helping people entering the sport world wide...A
Saintly act for sure because undoubtedly a few will come from Enemy
Countries
> >you come
> >back from the Nationals after fucking off and lurking all week and say
> >"LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE WON"
>
> And that's a load of crap, too. Never have I done that or said that.
> (Someone bothering the stupid, little troll, yet?) Further, ~you~
> come back from some scrambles meet where you made a single competition
> jump in that meet and where you were held stable by three other
> skydivers and gargle, "BUT I GOT A NATIONAL MEDAL DAMMIT!!" (and
> that's a direct quote). Hypocrite.
>
> >People around the DZ might act impressed but they are thinking "We?
> >You don't take grips you phony dick wad."
>
> Ah, yes they just HAVE to be "thinking" that because
> you have imagined it so.
No because it is human instinct, it protects every one but the naive
from used car salesmen, phonies and non pool pin
Video geeks.
>
> >So you ain't fooling anyone but yourself.
>
> Your projection runneth over, princess - bigtime.
>
> >....Now put on the pool pin
> >I'm offering and shut up Jerry !
>
> It somehow became my fault for your dumb idea not
> happening when it was your dumb idea to begin with
> ...bsrp
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No, it became your fault when you saw the potential to riffle change
by doing nothing for something and jumped on it.
That makes it more expensive for the Novices and will eventually
diminish or kill the sport jerk off because you are not
the only self serving something for nothing flim flam punk in the
sport
the unknown flailer
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:26 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >you come back from the Nationals after fucking off and lurking all week and say
> >"LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE WON"
>
> And that's a load of crap, too ~you~
> come back from some scrambles meet where you made a single competition
> jump in that meet and where you were held stable by three other
> skydivers and gargle, "BUT I GOT A NATIONAL MEDAL DAMMIT!!" (and
> that's a direct quote). Hypocrite.
It was a National event although it should have qualified for
International status because the Canadians were there competing and
pool Video was used I might add
> Your projection runneth over, princess - bigtime.
>
> >....Now put on the pool pin
> >I'm offering and shut up Jerry !
>
> Same old shit just as when you were spazzing out over your puerile shooting skydivers with
> firearms as a means to help dropzones (yeah, right)
> ...bsrp
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Get it right Jerry, it was shooting at sky gods with rat shot not all
skydivers...Specificaly your type as a matter of fact. ;)
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 9:06�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:26 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >Who is the we? You are my bitch so you round out the twosome in "we."
>>
>> Except it is ~you~, and only you, in your "We will call it the 4P tax
>> in honor of the old 4F system of rating physical ability to serve
>> during WWII. �You can call it whatever you will but it won't change
>> the smell.
>>
>> >I want to get you a pool pin to satisfy
>> >the craving for prestige your ego requires..
>>
>> Except I have no interest in some "pin,"
>
>Only because you know you are not good enough to get one without my
>excellent coaching motivation,
Heh - a lack of interest in the flotsam of your imagination rides on
what you pretend you bring to the table - just blowing smoke out your
ass, Jinnie, and day by day, it's geting more and more pathetic
watching you flail as you do. Explain why anyone would want some
imaginary "pool pin," as imagined by a clueless loser, which
supposedly (if it were real) would be used to display some sort of
bogus legitimacy a'la a badge of having been in a video pool and
further, explain why someone whose realm of experience includes video
pool participation would even need such a pin, given the substance in
the experience itself and none such in simply possessing some bogus
"pool pin," imagined or otherwise.
>you might have
>squeezed out of Navy boot camp and some mean ass old Petty Officers
>attention by shirking any responsibility to serve our
>Country so I'm giving you the shaft now
Heh - you call that little thing a "shaft?" LOL! You're doing squat.
With you as the example, "Navy boot camp" turns out cluelss losers
wrapped so twisted tight they need help screwing their pants on. Some
"shaft," loser. Gargling and sputtering over what is only the vapid
phantoms of your own self-serving imagination and in so doing, fooling
yourself.
>who knows, you might be good
>enough for a pool pin someday and want to thank
>me for pointing out your short comings and squaring your weak young
>ass away the old fashioned way...No need to thank
>me now you can salute the flag later
"Old fashioned way?" This must be that "old fashioned way" where a
clueless shut-in imagines a symbol for participation in some entity
and then asserts someone else needs that symbol only to suggest that
person can't have that symbol because he doesn't rate it. Nevermind
that no one has expressed any interest in possessing that symbol and
nevermind that the symbol is still nothing more than a figment of the
clueless shut-in's turgid imagination. Not to mention this "old
fashioned way" being presented over an electronic medium. Yeah,
right. <saracasm, dummy>. Strike another stupid pose, why doncha?
>
>> >..Maybe then you will quit
>> >trying to steal credit for other jumpers
>> >RW medals.
>>
>
>>, I doubt it. �
>>
>> >I do this for skydivers �who take grips world wide because
>> >I'm a Saintly old man,
>>
>> That's a load of crap. �You do "this" for yourself and yourself, only.
>> "Skydivers who take grips world wide" are decidedly lacking in
>> participation on this forum
>>
>Even more Saintly....I do it for people who will never know and no
>reward other than helping people entering the sport world wide.
Ah, yes - <sarcasm, dummy> and as we all know, this backwater of the
usenet is a vital and central confluence point for "people entering
the sport world wide." Cut the crap - you do it for you - it's
undeniable but I will admit you indeed "will never know."
>..A
>Saintly act for sure because undoubtedly a few will come from Enemy
>Countries
One might say this is getting pathetic, Jinnie, except there's no more
getting to it - your act has been so abjectly pathetic for a good,
long time now and now, donning the mantle self-described as "Saintly"
- nevermind Saints, the real ones, never went around assuring others
that they were - comes the invoking of the "Enemy" (AKA - springboard
for Jinnie to gargle about fighting "enemies") - as if the "Saintly"
bothered with enemies? For all practical purposes such is the
equivalent of Jinnie jamming a digit in his ass, pausing a moment to
pick his nose nearby, and then wiping whatever adhered to the digit on
the keyboard. You're losing it, Jinnie. A caricature of a caricature
rendered in brown ink.
>
>> >you come
>> >back from the Nationals after fucking off and lurking all week and say
>> >"LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE WON"
>>
>> And that's a load of crap, too. �Never have I done that or said that.
>> (Someone bothering the stupid, little troll, yet?) �Further, ~you~
>> come back from some scrambles meet where you made a single competition
>> jump in that meet and where you were held stable by three other
>> skydivers and gargle, "BUT I GOT A NATIONAL MEDAL DAMMIT!!" (and
>> that's a direct quote). � Hypocrite.
>>
>> >People around the DZ might act impressed but they are thinking "We?
>> >You don't take grips you phony dick wad."
>>
>> Ah, yes they just HAVE to be "thinking" that because
>> you have imagined it so. �
>
>No because it is human instinct, it protects every one but the naive
>from used car salesmen, phonies and non pool pin
>Video geeks.
Ah, so when, as you've imagined, someone comes "back from the
Nationals" supposedly saying (as you imagine) "LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE
WON" with the imagined response that "People around the DZ might act
impressed but they are thinking "We? You don't take grips you phony
dick wad." you attribute this response to "human instinct" and this
response is actuated as a means of protection. Sure, Jinnie <sarcasm,
dummy> and when monkeys fly from your ass they're obivously moving to
a better neighborhood because your head up in there snores too loud at
night and they're sick of splashing around in the deep puddles of
drool. The reality is you've imagined what was which wasn't ever and
then imagined a reaction to what never was which also never was,
followed by explaining this imagined reaction to this imagined
occurance as "human instinct." A clear example of you living in your
own, little bullshit, fantasy, cloud-cuckooland world. What's the
matter, Jinnie - real world too tough for you these days?
>> >So you ain't fooling anyone but yourself.
>>
>> Your projection runneth over, princess - bigtime.
>>
>> >....Now put on the pool pin
>> >I'm offering and shut up Jerry !
>>
>>�It somehow became my fault for your dumb idea not
>> happening when it was your dumb idea to begin with
>
>> ...bsrp
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>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>No, it became your fault when you saw the potential to riffle change
>by doing nothing for something and jumped on it.
Now you're simply gibbering, princess. Still no one taking shots at
skydivers, any skydivers, as they land in the landing area - what's
holding you back?
>That makes it more expensive for the Novices and will eventually
>diminish or kill the sport jerk off
Be sure to wash your hand when you're done, Jinnie! LOL! Explain
how the mere existance of someone who might be able to fly a camera
"makes it more expensive for the Novices." Further, explain how the
mere existance of someone who might be able to fly a camera "will
eventually diminish or kill the sport." Try to limit your answer to
the substantive. I know that you won't - you can't - but your
imagination has been doing nothing but illustrating how hugely
ill-equipped you are.
>because you are not
>the only self serving something for nothing flim flam punk in the
>sport
Naw, all of your lame rhetorical bullshit aside, just somone who takes
your lame and self serving line of crap, your stupid, little act, and
shoves it back in your face and someone who - the greatest sin -
remains a current skydiver to this day in the face of you being
relegated to the sidelines forever (and ever) due to your own stupid
mistakes and for lack of thinking things through. Gee, someone
bothering the stupid, little troll, yet? You're projecting, loser.
...bsrp
...jlk
Jerry K.
<thu...@iwon.com> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 9:06�pm, Jerry K. <sky...@pdq.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:26 -0800 (PST), the unknown flailer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>>
>> >you come back from the Nationals after fucking off and lurking all week and say
>> >"LOOK AT THE MEDAL WE WON"
>>
>> And that's a load of crap, too ~you~
>> come back from some scrambles meet where you made a single competition
>> jump in that meet and where you were held stable by three other
>> skydivers and gargle, "BUT I GOT A NATIONAL MEDAL DAMMIT!!" (and
>> that's a direct quote). � Hypocrite.
>
>It was a National event although it should have qualified for
>International status because the Canadians were there competing and
>pool Video was used I might add
Which still does nothing to allay the abject hypocrisy of you having a
problem with someone else (in your imagination) saying "LOOK AT THE
MEDAL WE WON" while you (in reality) did say and rationalize saying,
""BUT I GOT A NATIONAL MEDAL DAMMIT!!" As for pool video at your
little, one scored jump scrambles meet, as if there is any other
realistic option for video than a pool at a scrambles meet?
Intellectual dishonesty, thy name is Jinnie Sniff.
>
>
>
>
>> Your projection runneth over, princess - bigtime.
>>
>> >....Now put on the pool pin
>> >I'm offering and shut up Jerry !
>>
>>�Same old shit just as when you were spazzing out over your puerile shooting skydivers with
>> firearms as a means to help dropzones (yeah, right)
>> ...bsrp
>> ...jlk- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Get it right Jerry, it was shooting at sky gods with rat shot not all
>skydivers...Specificaly your type as a matter of fact. ;)
Hmmm - seems my "type" is still skydiving, and often, and yet there's
been absolutely no sign of anyone, least of all you, in the landing
area taking shots at such "types" as they land. What's been holding
you back, loser? You going to make it happen or just continue to blow
smoke out your ass? Poor widdle Jinnie - his pride (as if he had any)
is so wounded he dreams of shooting the symbols of his ire with
firearms as they land their canopies and as this turgid, little
revenge fantasy of his is so soothing for him, he cannot face the FACT
that it is still only a loser's dream and beyond his ability to make
reality. In the meantime, skydivers of a certain "type," symbols of
his ire and subjects of his revenge fantasies continue to skydive and
land their canopies having been decidedly NOT shot with firearms. Get
it right, loser - you're imagining checks which you are clearly unable
to keep. Log it.
...bsrp
...jlk