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Tom Kunich
Aug 5, 2023, 9:41:55 PM8/5/23
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Don't you find it interesting that when I gave Liebermann hell for pretending to be an engineer that my name turned up on the dark web as reported to me by Bitdefender?
And that after Liebermann said that I didn't own a ford but a Kia and I took him to task for that that that very night after the Kia being in the driveway unbothered for 8 years that it was broken into and attempted to be stolen?
Indeed if anything from Liebermann has been being published on the Dark Web, it becomes a federal matter and we are reporting it to the police.
And that after Liebermann said that I didn't own a ford but a Kia and I took him to task for that that that very night after the Kia being in the driveway unbothered for 8 years that it was broken into and attempted to be stolen?
Indeed if anything from Liebermann has been being published on the Dark Web, it becomes a federal matter and we are reporting it to the police.
John B.
Aug 5, 2023, 10:13:36 PM8/5/23
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 18:41:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Don't you find it interesting that when I gave Liebermann
hell for pretending to be an engineer that my name turned up on the
dark web as reported to me by Bitdefender?
>
>And that after Liebermann said that I didn't own a ford
but a Kia and I took him to task for that very night after the Kia
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Don't you find it interesting that when I gave Liebermann
hell for pretending to be an engineer that my name turned up on the
dark web as reported to me by Bitdefender?
>
>And that after Liebermann said that I didn't own a ford
being in the driveway unbothered for 8 years that it was broken into
and attempted to be stolen?
>
>Indeed if anything from Liebermann has been being published
on the Dark Web, it becomes a federal matter and we are reporting it
to the police.
Really Tom? the "Dark Web" is illegal? Are you sure? Can you prove it?
and attempted to be stolen?
>
>Indeed if anything from Liebermann has been being published
on the Dark Web, it becomes a federal matter and we are reporting it
to the police.
Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
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Cheers,
John B.
Frank Krygowski
Aug 6, 2023, 1:02:50 PM8/6/23
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- Frank Krygowski
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 6, 2023, 1:59:50 PM8/6/23
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>Don't you find it interesting that when I gave Liebermann hell for pretending to be an engineer that my name turned up on the dark web as reported to me by Bitdefender?
The dark web are Darknet web sites
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet>
that require authorization to view. The largest of these private web
sites is Facebook:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_web>
"In July 2017, Roger Dingledine, one of the three founders of the Tor
Project, said that Facebook is the biggest hidden service."
There is also the Deep Web, which are web sites not indexed by the
popular search engines:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_web>
BitDefender will find virus's and Malware on your computer, but does
not search for your name in the various Dark networks and web sites.
>And that after Liebermann said that I didn't own a ford but a Kia and I took him to task for that that that very night after the Kia being in the driveway unbothered for 8 years that it was broken into and attempted to be stolen?
I'm sure the details will change after a few months. Your Kia Soul is
the 2018 model. That would make it 5 years old, not 8 years.
<https://www.kiamedia.com/us/en/models/soul/2018/specifications>
If you hadn't written the above comments, I probably would have
eventually apologized for possibly drawing a wrong conclusion from the
presence of the Kia on the lawn or driveway. That would be not
because of anything you claimed, but because I know from your previous
Strava rides, that you often throw a bicycle into your car and drive
it to and from the trail head. I didn't see any bicycle racks. The
Kia Soul is probably too small, but your alleged 2007 Taurus X is big
enough for a bicycle in back.
>Indeed if anything from Liebermann has been being published on the Dark Web, it becomes a federal matter and we are reporting it to the police.
really think I would use my real name? I would probably hide behind a
Tor browser and use a fake identity.
<https://www.torproject.org>
Sorry about being gone for the last week. Too many things happening
at the same time. For example, firewood:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/zLD9pqBnTxgNA5C68>
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Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Tom Kunich
Aug 6, 2023, 3:21:08 PM8/6/23
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You are simply too stupid to know what you're doing or the results that can occur. My yacht club secretary made a note that someone called and questioned her about me and you posted that you had done that. After one of our arguments my name turned up in something like 32 places on the dark web and after you posted about the car in front of my house there was an attempted car theft. I did report to the police about your comments. The insurance company might decide to take this further so you may very well hear more about this.
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 7, 2023, 12:38:02 AM8/7/23
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On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 12:21:05 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
days.
I think what you want is a search warrant to help determine if a crime
has been committed, not a subpoena. A subpoena is issued prior to an
active trial ordering a 3rd party to produce evidence or a deposition
for the trial:
"different types of Subpoenas"
<https://chancellor.berkeley.edu/are-there-different-types-subpoenas>
If you manage to get the case to trial, it's also called a "discovery
request".
<https://www.unpredictableblog.com/blog/subpoenas>
I'm certain that an investigative agency will have a wonderful time
reading your lies, amazing facts and numerous mistakes. I'll be happy
to provide them with selected samples. What you consider to be
stalking, I consider to be "fact checking". All I need to do to
defend myself is to prove that my comments are accurate and true.
Since you are using Google Groups to post your rubbish, I suggest you
first file a complaint with Google about my activities before wasting
the time of law enforcement agencies:
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/4561696?hl=en>
Please note that many of items proscribed by Google are a close match
to your online activities. Hopefully, this will go better for you
than the last time you called for law enforcement assistance:
<http://sanleandrotalk.voxpublica.org/2013/07/20/no-good-deed-goes-unpunished-slpd-handcuffs-good-samaritan-ransacks-his-home-over-100-year-old-gun/>
>My yacht club secretary made a note that someone called and
>questioned her about me and you posted that you had done that.
Wrong. I posted that I had sent an email, not a phone call, asking
for verification of your membership and lifetime membership. I posted
the contents of the exchange. To protect the privacy of the members
she refused to provide any information. One interesting reaction was
that her email address on the membership FAQ changed from her personal
email address to a more general mailbox:
<https://www.aeolianyc.org/membership-faqs.html>
It's interesting how mention of your name produces such a reaction.
>After one of our arguments my name turned up in something like 32 places on the dark web and after you posted about the car in front of my house there was an attempted car theft. I did report to the police about your comments. The insurance company might decide to take this further so you may very well hear more about this.
Sorry, but I don't believe you did any of that. However, I would be
interested in links to examples of where our discussions were posted
to the "dark web" (assuming you can find the dark web).
Reminder: All you need to do is cease lying and I'll have nothing to
demonstrate that you're lying.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>One of the many problems with you is that you're stupid. The FBI would take under 2 minutes to completely identify the person actually sending stuff on the dark web. The fact of your stalking alone is legally questionable and you're not even smart enough to understand that. If you went down to your local library and used their computer to post to the dark web it would only take them a minute. If you posted from a commercial computer service, it would only require them to be open during working hours. And most commercial sites also film you. Doing it from your home computer makes it a cinch to identify. Using an ID blocking service simply means that it requires a subpoena which in the case of a criminal intent is a walk through.
I don't know anyone except niche movie producers who use film these
days.
I think what you want is a search warrant to help determine if a crime
has been committed, not a subpoena. A subpoena is issued prior to an
active trial ordering a 3rd party to produce evidence or a deposition
for the trial:
"different types of Subpoenas"
<https://chancellor.berkeley.edu/are-there-different-types-subpoenas>
If you manage to get the case to trial, it's also called a "discovery
request".
<https://www.unpredictableblog.com/blog/subpoenas>
I'm certain that an investigative agency will have a wonderful time
reading your lies, amazing facts and numerous mistakes. I'll be happy
to provide them with selected samples. What you consider to be
stalking, I consider to be "fact checking". All I need to do to
defend myself is to prove that my comments are accurate and true.
Since you are using Google Groups to post your rubbish, I suggest you
first file a complaint with Google about my activities before wasting
the time of law enforcement agencies:
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/4561696?hl=en>
Please note that many of items proscribed by Google are a close match
to your online activities. Hopefully, this will go better for you
than the last time you called for law enforcement assistance:
<http://sanleandrotalk.voxpublica.org/2013/07/20/no-good-deed-goes-unpunished-slpd-handcuffs-good-samaritan-ransacks-his-home-over-100-year-old-gun/>
>My yacht club secretary made a note that someone called and
>questioned her about me and you posted that you had done that.
for verification of your membership and lifetime membership. I posted
the contents of the exchange. To protect the privacy of the members
she refused to provide any information. One interesting reaction was
that her email address on the membership FAQ changed from her personal
email address to a more general mailbox:
<https://www.aeolianyc.org/membership-faqs.html>
It's interesting how mention of your name produces such a reaction.
>After one of our arguments my name turned up in something like 32 places on the dark web and after you posted about the car in front of my house there was an attempted car theft. I did report to the police about your comments. The insurance company might decide to take this further so you may very well hear more about this.
interested in links to examples of where our discussions were posted
to the "dark web" (assuming you can find the dark web).
Reminder: All you need to do is cease lying and I'll have nothing to
demonstrate that you're lying.
John B.
Aug 7, 2023, 2:11:02 AM8/7/23
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On Sun, 06 Aug 2023 21:37:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
I wonder... does Tommy actually know what the "Dark Web" is? Or like
many of his assertions is it a word he heard that sounds "spiffy" so
he started to use it?
And, perhaps more to the point, why in the world would anyone be
posting his name to the Dark Web? After all Tommy has been posting on
the Internet for years and anyone that is interested knows that "Tom
Kunich is an ass"
https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/tom-kunich-is-a-ass.258640/
Note the date, some 18 years ago.
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
many of his assertions is it a word he heard that sounds "spiffy" so
he started to use it?
And, perhaps more to the point, why in the world would anyone be
posting his name to the Dark Web? After all Tommy has been posting on
the Internet for years and anyone that is interested knows that "Tom
Kunich is an ass"
https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/tom-kunich-is-a-ass.258640/
Note the date, some 18 years ago.
--
Cheers,
John B.
Tom Kunich
Aug 7, 2023, 10:11:09 AM8/7/23
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Jeff Liebermann
Aug 7, 2023, 1:07:31 PM8/7/23
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On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 13:10:55 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I wonder... does Tommy actually know what the "Dark Web" is? Or like
>many of his assertions is it a word he heard that sounds "spiffy" so
>he started to use it?
I must confess that I didn't know the exact definition and that there
were other similar "dark" and "deep" names. I previous described
Darknet, Dark_Web and Deep_Web in:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/x6C8ROyth9o/m/dqqxkn5VAgAJ>
The problem is that he doesn't understand the difference. I guess
posting Tom's name to any site that requires a login and/or does not
appear in an internet search, is somehow evil. I'm not certain, but
it seems that Tom, the press, pundits and I have all used "Dark_Web"
to include the other names.
According to Wikipedia, the largest Dark_Web web site is Facebook.
However, we'll probably never know where Tom found his name 32 times.
If searched Facebook, he likely would have found his name more than 32
times, but that's no indication of criminal activity or whatever he's
complaining about.
<https://www.facebook.com/thomas.kunich.1>
<https://www.facebook.com/jeff.liebermann>
>And, perhaps more to the point, why in the world would anyone be
>posting his name to the Dark Web? After all Tommy has been posting on
>the Internet for years
There are people who value the name recognition that using their real
name provides. For example, Kevin Mitnick (RIP) used his real name
online after the press crowned him king of the hackers or something
similar.
>and anyone that is interested knows that "Tom
>Kunich is an ass"
>https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/tom-kunich-is-a-ass.258640/
>Note the date, some 18 years ago.
Yep. Search Google for "Tom Kunich" name and that's what appears
under Narkive and after LinkedIn.
There are also 400+ RBT postings by Tom from 1992 to 1997 (26 to 31
years ago) under "Thomas Kunich":
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/search?q=author%3AThomas+author%3AKunich>
I just wasted an hour skimming through the collection.
wrote:
>I wonder... does Tommy actually know what the "Dark Web" is? Or like
>many of his assertions is it a word he heard that sounds "spiffy" so
>he started to use it?
were other similar "dark" and "deep" names. I previous described
Darknet, Dark_Web and Deep_Web in:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/x6C8ROyth9o/m/dqqxkn5VAgAJ>
The problem is that he doesn't understand the difference. I guess
posting Tom's name to any site that requires a login and/or does not
appear in an internet search, is somehow evil. I'm not certain, but
it seems that Tom, the press, pundits and I have all used "Dark_Web"
to include the other names.
According to Wikipedia, the largest Dark_Web web site is Facebook.
However, we'll probably never know where Tom found his name 32 times.
If searched Facebook, he likely would have found his name more than 32
times, but that's no indication of criminal activity or whatever he's
complaining about.
<https://www.facebook.com/thomas.kunich.1>
<https://www.facebook.com/jeff.liebermann>
>And, perhaps more to the point, why in the world would anyone be
>posting his name to the Dark Web? After all Tommy has been posting on
>the Internet for years
name provides. For example, Kevin Mitnick (RIP) used his real name
online after the press crowned him king of the hackers or something
similar.
>and anyone that is interested knows that "Tom
>Kunich is an ass"
>https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/tom-kunich-is-a-ass.258640/
>Note the date, some 18 years ago.
under Narkive and after LinkedIn.
There are also 400+ RBT postings by Tom from 1992 to 1997 (26 to 31
years ago) under "Thomas Kunich":
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/search?q=author%3AThomas+author%3AKunich>
I just wasted an hour skimming through the collection.
Tom Kunich
Aug 7, 2023, 5:19:19 PM8/7/23
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Tom Kunich
Aug 7, 2023, 5:25:39 PM8/7/23
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John B.
Aug 7, 2023, 8:07:52 PM8/7/23
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yup and the article is titled "by Thomas Kunich
with comments by Sheldon Brown" and the last line in the article
references an article by Sheldon, ""I like everything about a French
bike" Brown https://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html might disagree
with me on this point (and WOW has he ever!) but that is my opinion."
So basically you stated your opinion and Sheldon says you are "full of
shit" but using nicer words.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
with comments by Sheldon Brown" and the last line in the article
references an article by Sheldon, ""I like everything about a French
bike" Brown https://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html might disagree
with me on this point (and WOW has he ever!) but that is my opinion."
So basically you stated your opinion and Sheldon says you are "full of
shit" but using nicer words.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Aug 7, 2023, 8:24:40 PM8/7/23
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:19:16 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Gee Tommy, did you get it wrong again? Nobody but you, mentioned
someone wearing a helmet. So you are replying to yourself? What do the
call that? "Self Gratification?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
someone wearing a helmet. So you are replying to yourself? What do the
call that? "Self Gratification?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Aug 7, 2023, 9:01:28 PM8/7/23
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 07:11:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well Tommy, the same question can be asked of Mr. Tom Kunich, can't
it? After all we have nothing except your say so to tell us what a
wonderful fellow you are. Of course, we have your fanciful "resume"
which of course was written by you and certainly the very first entry
is a lie, so how much of the rest of it can be true?
But to paraphrase your post, "who do you think you've fooled?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
it? After all we have nothing except your say so to tell us what a
wonderful fellow you are. Of course, we have your fanciful "resume"
which of course was written by you and certainly the very first entry
is a lie, so how much of the rest of it can be true?
But to paraphrase your post, "who do you think you've fooled?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 7, 2023, 9:27:27 PM8/7/23
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 07:07:45 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> By the way pansy - all of those people from 18 years ago aren't here anymore are they? I'm still here and I'm still riding. So all of those truths that you believe you've found are nothing more than dust in the wind. So, Tom Kunich is an Ass but Sheldon Brown published my articles. What did he do for you? He is presently sitting on a cloud and laughing directly at you.
They're all gone probably because they had better things to do than
argue with you.
>Yup and the article is titled "by Thomas Kunich
>with comments by Sheldon Brown" and the last line in the article
>references an article by Sheldon, ""I like everything about a French
>bike" Brown https://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html might disagree
>with me on this point (and WOW has he ever!) but that is my opinion."
>
>So basically you stated your opinion and Sheldon says you are "full of
>shit" but using nicer words.
I think this was Tom's original article on upgrading French bicycles
from Jan 30, 1993:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/vDngSALPL04/m/T4LF4UAmFxYJ>
I had a Peugeot bicycles while in high skool. I think it was a late
1960's PX10 (2x5) but I'm not sure.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NnRylX5S-0>
At age 14 or 15, I could hardly consider myself an expert on French
bicycles. I read both of Tom's articles. However, it's been far too
many years to recall my experiences with my Peugeot bicycle.
Therefore, I won't comment on Tom's two articles.
wrote:
>On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:25:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> By the way pansy - all of those people from 18 years ago aren't here anymore are they? I'm still here and I'm still riding. So all of those truths that you believe you've found are nothing more than dust in the wind. So, Tom Kunich is an Ass but Sheldon Brown published my articles. What did he do for you? He is presently sitting on a cloud and laughing directly at you.
argue with you.
>Yup and the article is titled "by Thomas Kunich
>with comments by Sheldon Brown" and the last line in the article
>references an article by Sheldon, ""I like everything about a French
>bike" Brown https://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html might disagree
>with me on this point (and WOW has he ever!) but that is my opinion."
>
>So basically you stated your opinion and Sheldon says you are "full of
>shit" but using nicer words.
from Jan 30, 1993:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/vDngSALPL04/m/T4LF4UAmFxYJ>
I had a Peugeot bicycles while in high skool. I think it was a late
1960's PX10 (2x5) but I'm not sure.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NnRylX5S-0>
At age 14 or 15, I could hardly consider myself an expert on French
bicycles. I read both of Tom's articles. However, it's been far too
many years to recall my experiences with my Peugeot bicycle.
Therefore, I won't comment on Tom's two articles.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 8, 2023, 10:23:10 AM8/8/23
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On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:21:08 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> One of the many problems with you is that you're stupid.
Oh, the irony...
>
> One of the many problems with you is that you're stupid.
> The FBI would take under 2 minutes to completely identify the person actually sending stuff on the dark web. The fact of your stalking alone is legally questionable and you're not even smart enough to understand that.
> If you went down to your local library and used their computer to post to the dark web it would only take them a minute. If you posted from a commercial computer service, it would only require them to be open during working hours. And most commercial sites also film you. Doing it from your home computer makes it a cinch to identify. Using an ID blocking service simply means that it requires a subpoena which in the case of a criminal intent is a walk through.
>
> You are simply too stupid to know what you're doing or the results that can occur. My yacht club secretary made a note that someone called and questioned her about me and you posted that you had done that. After one of our arguments my name turned up in something like 32 places on the dark web and after you posted about the car in front of my house there was an attempted car theft. I did report to the police about your comments. The insurance company might decide to take this further so you may very well hear more about this.
Tom Kunich
Aug 8, 2023, 10:29:03 AM8/8/23
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funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 8, 2023, 12:38:35 PM8/8/23
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Jeff Liebermann
Aug 8, 2023, 1:14:19 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:29:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Flunky, I understand that you're not really bright but virtually every state in the union has anti-stalking laws. I suggest you look things up before making your continually incorrect statements. Not only is Liebermann stalking me, he is stupid enough to put it in writing on this group.
Are you sure that it's me stalking you, and not the other way around?
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Flunky, I understand that you're not really bright but virtually every state in the union has anti-stalking laws. I suggest you look things up before making your continually incorrect statements. Not only is Liebermann stalking me, he is stupid enough to put it in writing on this group.
"Penal Code 646.9 PC - California Stalking Laws"
<https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/646-9/>
"646.9. (a) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly
follows or willfully and maliciously harasses another person and who
makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in
reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of his or her
immediate family is guilty of the crime of stalking..."
Note that one must be guilty of engaging in malicious harassment *AND*
make a credible threat to be considered stalking. To be stalking, it
has to be both.
I don't recall ever threatening you or your family. The worst I've
done is suggest that you read the Google Groups Content Policy:
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/4561696?hl=en>
in reference to you threatening others. I think I've done that 3
times. You haven't expressed any indication of being in fear for your
safety.
You might claim harassment, but again, you're one doing the harassing
by adding your opinions, misinformation and political topic changes to
literally every discussion.
I previously covered Andre's suggestion that you should sue me for
libel. The problem there is that I can prove most or all of what I've
accused you of doing is true. Telling the truth, correcting your
mistakes and inconveniencing you is not libel. Besides, you also have
to demonstrate that I've caused you financial damage. With over $2
million in the bank, that's going to be difficult.
Tom Kunich
Aug 8, 2023, 4:37:11 PM8/8/23
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Jeff Liebermann
Aug 8, 2023, 5:38:54 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 13:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
your numerous mistakes, and helping you salvage what's left of your
reputation.
>Using Google Earth to identify objects at my home
That might be considered an invasion of your privacy. However, I fail
to find an associated crime:
"California Privacy Laws"
<https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/privacy-laws>
I'll gladly debate the matter with you, but I would like a few days to
do some research.
>and calling my yacht club for personal information
I did not "call" your alleged yacht club. I sent them a request for
your membership status via email and received reply via email.
>about me is harassing
Really? Asking a question to verify your claims is harassment?
>and I have absolutely no idea what someone as sick as you is
>capable of doing.
If you have no idea, perhaps asking me for ideas will help.
>I also have no idea what other harassments you have done.
None
>Which one of my former employers have you contacted?
None, although I've been tempted. Of special interest were NASA,
Sadia(sic) Laboratories, Sun Microsystems, Both Berkeley labs, Analog
Devices, ETEC, Diablo Research and Berkeley Computer Corporation. Did
I miss any that do NOT appear on your resume?
I did consider obtaining a copy of your military records:
<https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records>
but discovered that they are only publicly available starting 62 years
after you left the military, which would be approximately 2028. I'll
wait.
I was also considering determining who owns your house but decided
that it wasn't worth the phone call or a drive to Oakland:
<https://www.acassessor.org/homeowners/about-property-assessment/property-ownership-information/>
>You made comments about doing that previously as well.
I don't recall. Could you find a link to where I said that I called
your former employers?
>I might even be justified in making sure you can not do anything.
>Let's say breaking your knees.
That reads like a threat of violence and a sore loser. This will be
the 4th time I've warned you about Google's policies on violence:
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/4561696?hl=en>
Your comment might be considered a "credible threat with the intent to
place that person (me) in reasonable fear for his or her safety",
which I presume is your intent.
Sometimes, I find you difficult to understand.
- You crave attention. Yet, when you get far more attention than you
deserve, you threaten violence.
- You want to be recognized for your past accomplishments. Yet, your
past accomplishments are a disorganized and impossible muddle.
- You don't like having your own words used to debunk your lies, yet
you continue to lie as if the cause and the effect are disconnected.
- Almost 100% of what you claims is either wrong, a lie, or contrived
for the occasion. Everyone lies or makes mistakes sometimes, but not
100%. That suggests that you're doing it on purpose.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Dim wit "willfully and maliciously harasses another person".
Willfully yes. Maliciously no. Think of it fact checking, correcting
your numerous mistakes, and helping you salvage what's left of your
reputation.
>Using Google Earth to identify objects at my home
to find an associated crime:
"California Privacy Laws"
<https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/privacy-laws>
I'll gladly debate the matter with you, but I would like a few days to
do some research.
>and calling my yacht club for personal information
your membership status via email and received reply via email.
>about me is harassing
Really? Asking a question to verify your claims is harassment?
>and I have absolutely no idea what someone as sick as you is
>capable of doing.
>I also have no idea what other harassments you have done.
>Which one of my former employers have you contacted?
Sadia(sic) Laboratories, Sun Microsystems, Both Berkeley labs, Analog
Devices, ETEC, Diablo Research and Berkeley Computer Corporation. Did
I miss any that do NOT appear on your resume?
I did consider obtaining a copy of your military records:
<https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records>
but discovered that they are only publicly available starting 62 years
after you left the military, which would be approximately 2028. I'll
wait.
I was also considering determining who owns your house but decided
that it wasn't worth the phone call or a drive to Oakland:
<https://www.acassessor.org/homeowners/about-property-assessment/property-ownership-information/>
>You made comments about doing that previously as well.
your former employers?
>I might even be justified in making sure you can not do anything.
>Let's say breaking your knees.
the 4th time I've warned you about Google's policies on violence:
<https://support.google.com/groups/answer/4561696?hl=en>
Your comment might be considered a "credible threat with the intent to
place that person (me) in reasonable fear for his or her safety",
which I presume is your intent.
Sometimes, I find you difficult to understand.
- You crave attention. Yet, when you get far more attention than you
deserve, you threaten violence.
- You want to be recognized for your past accomplishments. Yet, your
past accomplishments are a disorganized and impossible muddle.
- You don't like having your own words used to debunk your lies, yet
you continue to lie as if the cause and the effect are disconnected.
- Almost 100% of what you claims is either wrong, a lie, or contrived
for the occasion. Everyone lies or makes mistakes sometimes, but not
100%. That suggests that you're doing it on purpose.
John B.
Aug 8, 2023, 6:50:22 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 14:38:38 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
Just a comment on military records Jeff. They will show training,
where assigned, ranks held, formal punishments, if any, decorations
and little else.
Based on Tommy's posts and my 20 years experience, the basics of his
military service are pretty well documented, excepting of course his
lurid stories about when he flew on bombing missions which based on
his posts are simply lies.
He was a nobody, one of the apparently less intelligent ones who never
advanced beyond the tool bag carrying stage assisting a qualified
technician.
--
Cheers,
John B.
where assigned, ranks held, formal punishments, if any, decorations
and little else.
Based on Tommy's posts and my 20 years experience, the basics of his
military service are pretty well documented, excepting of course his
lurid stories about when he flew on bombing missions which based on
his posts are simply lies.
He was a nobody, one of the apparently less intelligent ones who never
advanced beyond the tool bag carrying stage assisting a qualified
technician.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Aug 8, 2023, 7:03:37 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 13:37:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Harassing? A new term, Tommy says, for telling the truth.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 8, 2023, 7:48:05 PM8/8/23
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2023 05:48:50 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
have some suspicions, which the official records might help answer.
Among them is that he left the USAF in 1967[1] but his first job
listed on his resume started in 1984. Jay found that Tom had worked
for BCC somewhere between 1969 to 1972:
See document page 27 (distribution list):
<http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/BCC_A-11.pdf>
where Tom is listed as working in "Engineering Support". That's about
15 years during which he might have learned to program. Maybe his
military records will offer some clues.
>Based on Tommy's posts and my 20 years experience, the basics of his
>military service are pretty well documented, excepting of course his
>lurid stories about when he flew on bombing missions which based on
>his posts are simply lies.
There's also the story about flying avionics from Viet Nam to Oakland
Airport (North Field) hangar from Tom to repair at Belaire Avionics.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/ZMiLSdqisfg/m/Hvi1fsv9AQAJ>
"I worked for Bayaire Avionics for 4 years during the Vietnam Airlift
as an avionics technician."
>He was a nobody, one of the apparently less intelligent ones who never
>advanced beyond the tool bag carrying stage assisting a qualified
>technician.
[1]
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/MyPJ4MA3e60/m/-TZfbH7xAQAJ>
I was born in October of 1944. I joined at 17.5 Those with the ability
to add would assume that I joined the Air Force in May of 1961. 4
years of active duty and two years inactive liable to be recalled
would to most people mean that I got off of active duty in 1965 and
finished my service of the Air Force in 1967.
wrote:
>>I did consider obtaining a copy of your military records:
>><https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records>
>>but discovered that they are only publicly available starting 62 years
>>after you left the military, which would be approximately 2028. I'll
>>wait.
>><https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records>
>>but discovered that they are only publicly available starting 62 years
>>after you left the military, which would be approximately 2028. I'll
>>wait.
>Just a comment on military records Jeff. They will show training,
>where assigned, ranks held, formal punishments, if any, decorations
>and little else.
I had hoped for more detail, but the basics are probably sufficient. I
>where assigned, ranks held, formal punishments, if any, decorations
>and little else.
have some suspicions, which the official records might help answer.
Among them is that he left the USAF in 1967[1] but his first job
listed on his resume started in 1984. Jay found that Tom had worked
for BCC somewhere between 1969 to 1972:
See document page 27 (distribution list):
<http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/BCC_A-11.pdf>
where Tom is listed as working in "Engineering Support". That's about
15 years during which he might have learned to program. Maybe his
military records will offer some clues.
>Based on Tommy's posts and my 20 years experience, the basics of his
>military service are pretty well documented, excepting of course his
>lurid stories about when he flew on bombing missions which based on
>his posts are simply lies.
Airport (North Field) hangar from Tom to repair at Belaire Avionics.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/ZMiLSdqisfg/m/Hvi1fsv9AQAJ>
"I worked for Bayaire Avionics for 4 years during the Vietnam Airlift
as an avionics technician."
>He was a nobody, one of the apparently less intelligent ones who never
>advanced beyond the tool bag carrying stage assisting a qualified
>technician.
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/MyPJ4MA3e60/m/-TZfbH7xAQAJ>
I was born in October of 1944. I joined at 17.5 Those with the ability
to add would assume that I joined the Air Force in May of 1961. 4
years of active duty and two years inactive liable to be recalled
would to most people mean that I got off of active duty in 1965 and
finished my service of the Air Force in 1967.
John B.
Aug 8, 2023, 9:20:14 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 09:38:33 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:29:03?AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:23:10?AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
California - Penal Code 422 PC
It is illegal to threaten another person with a criminal act that will
result in death or great bodily injury. Whether the threat is made in
person or is written in a note or through any electronic means, once
you have made a threat, you are likely to face criminal charges.
The penalties can include up to one year in jail or in state prison.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 10:29:03?AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:23:10?AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
It is illegal to threaten another person with a criminal act that will
result in death or great bodily injury. Whether the threat is made in
person or is written in a note or through any electronic means, once
you have made a threat, you are likely to face criminal charges.
The penalties can include up to one year in jail or in state prison.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Aug 8, 2023, 9:31:16 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:29:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:23:10?AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
Ah Tommy... once again you demonstrate your rather amazing level of
ignorance.
Penal Code 646.9 PC – California Stalking Laws
imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year, or by a fine
of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine
and imprisonment, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
Note that a condition required to qualify as "stalking" is "to place
reading Jeff's posts.... do you fall down and weep in terror? Run and
hide in the garage?
You must be the most cowardly person in California.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:23:10?AM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
ignorance.
Penal Code 646.9 PC – California Stalking Laws
646.9. (a) Any person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly
follows or willfully and maliciously harasses another person and who
makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in
reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of his or her
immediate family is guilty of the crime of stalking, punishable by
follows or willfully and maliciously harasses another person and who
makes a credible threat with the intent to place that person in
reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of his or her
imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year, or by a fine
of not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine
and imprisonment, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
Note that a condition required to qualify as "stalking" is "to place
that person in reasonable fear for his or her safety"
Are you telling us that your are actually in fear for your safety
reading Jeff's posts.... do you fall down and weep in terror? Run and
hide in the garage?
You must be the most cowardly person in California.
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Aug 8, 2023, 10:00:23 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:23:08 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
--
Cheers,
John B.
John B.
Aug 8, 2023, 11:33:13 PM8/8/23
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:47:51 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
Well, yes, I have read that on occasion a technician actually flew on
a B-52 headed into combat to repair something however... "repair" in
the Air Force was very much a matter of remove and replace. Way back
in about the early 1960's, or thereabouts, the Air force did a survey
of locally repaired device life versus "Depot" or manufacturer
repaired devices and found that locally repair had a far greater
failure rate then Depot or Manufacture and decided that local repairs
were no longer allowed.
So, I suppose if the Port Whiffinpuffer failure was discovered on
pre-flight inspection and a replacement was issued from "Supply" and
arrived at the airplane very shortly before scheduled takeoff someone
might fly the mission to replace it in flight. But that would be an
unusual situation as every thing the flight crew finds wrong is
"written up" and repaired before the next flight. And as there is no
"over time" you stay right there on the job until it is done and if it
takes all night well... just keep working :-(
--
Cheers,
John B.
a B-52 headed into combat to repair something however... "repair" in
the Air Force was very much a matter of remove and replace. Way back
in about the early 1960's, or thereabouts, the Air force did a survey
of locally repaired device life versus "Depot" or manufacturer
repaired devices and found that locally repair had a far greater
failure rate then Depot or Manufacture and decided that local repairs
were no longer allowed.
So, I suppose if the Port Whiffinpuffer failure was discovered on
pre-flight inspection and a replacement was issued from "Supply" and
arrived at the airplane very shortly before scheduled takeoff someone
might fly the mission to replace it in flight. But that would be an
unusual situation as every thing the flight crew finds wrong is
"written up" and repaired before the next flight. And as there is no
"over time" you stay right there on the job until it is done and if it
takes all night well... just keep working :-(
--
Cheers,
John B.
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 9, 2023, 12:57:00 AM8/9/23
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:00:16 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
>enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
>common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
>his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
I've received similar calls. However, such references don't always
work. I've heard stories of fabulous reports about a wonderful
current employee, only to discover later that the manager or company
wanted to get rid of the employee. Telling the truth, that the
employee is useless, would not facilitate their leaving. That's
probably why prospective employers tend to ask for multiple references
and call them all.
wrote:
>I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
>enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
>common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
>his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
work. I've heard stories of fabulous reports about a wonderful
current employee, only to discover later that the manager or company
wanted to get rid of the employee. Telling the truth, that the
employee is useless, would not facilitate their leaving. That's
probably why prospective employers tend to ask for multiple references
and call them all.
John B.
Aug 9, 2023, 2:41:25 AM8/9/23
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 21:56:46 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:00:16 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
>>enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
>>common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
>>his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
>
>I've received similar calls. However, such references don't always
>work. I've heard stories of fabulous reports about a wonderful
>current employee, only to discover later that the manager or company
>wanted to get rid of the employee. Telling the truth, that the
>employee is useless, would not facilitate their leaving. That's
>probably why prospective employers tend to ask for multiple references
>and call them all.
Yes, that can be true, but effectively, all of my civilian working
experience was as an Ex Pat working overseas and if you didn't perform
the company just canned you. And, for all the "Protect the worker" I
read about in the U.S. I can't remember a single case where a guy got
fired that didn't deserve it... although sometimes not for faulty
work. I once fired a guy that rather then go outside to urinate at
night just pissed in the corner of the sleeping cabin. The rest of the
crew threatened to quit unless I did something about it :-(
--
Cheers,
John B.
wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:00:16 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
>>enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
>>common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
>>his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
>
>I've received similar calls. However, such references don't always
>work. I've heard stories of fabulous reports about a wonderful
>current employee, only to discover later that the manager or company
>wanted to get rid of the employee. Telling the truth, that the
>employee is useless, would not facilitate their leaving. That's
>probably why prospective employers tend to ask for multiple references
>and call them all.
experience was as an Ex Pat working overseas and if you didn't perform
the company just canned you. And, for all the "Protect the worker" I
read about in the U.S. I can't remember a single case where a guy got
fired that didn't deserve it... although sometimes not for faulty
work. I once fired a guy that rather then go outside to urinate at
night just pissed in the corner of the sleeping cabin. The rest of the
crew threatened to quit unless I did something about it :-(
--
Cheers,
John B.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 9, 2023, 10:17:14 AM8/9/23
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> Using Google Earth to identify objects at my home and calling my yacht club for personal information about me is harassing and I have absolutely no idea what someone as sick as you is capable of doing. I also have no idea what other harassments you have done. Which one of my former employers have you contacted? You made comments about doing that previously as well. I might even be justified in making sure you can not do anything. Let's say breaking your knees.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 9, 2023, 10:20:14 AM8/9/23
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funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 9, 2023, 10:23:54 AM8/9/23
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On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:57:00 AM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:00:16 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
> >enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
> >common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
> >his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
> I've received similar calls. However, such references don't always
> work. I've heard stories of fabulous reports about a wonderful
> current employee, only to discover later that the manager or company
> wanted to get rid of the employee. Telling the truth, that the
> employee is useless, would not facilitate their leaving. That's
> probably why prospective employers tend to ask for multiple references
> and call them all.
> --
On the flip side of that coin, I received a call once about an employee who was problematic - difficult to work with, sub-par workmanship, etc..... I gave him a glowing review - "He's very important to the success of our organization, if he were to leave he would be sorely missed". It worked, He was offered the job and left a few weeks later.
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:00:16 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >I question whether anyone would find it strange for someone to call
> >enquiring about a member or employee. When I was working it was
> >common... "We have this guy, "Charley Brown" applying for a job and
> >his resume says he worked for you as a production manager in 2000?"
> I've received similar calls. However, such references don't always
> work. I've heard stories of fabulous reports about a wonderful
> current employee, only to discover later that the manager or company
> wanted to get rid of the employee. Telling the truth, that the
> employee is useless, would not facilitate their leaving. That's
> probably why prospective employers tend to ask for multiple references
> and call them all.
> --
AMuzi
Aug 9, 2023, 11:14:19 AM8/9/23
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On 8/9/2023 9:23 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes, I've done that too. Sometimes it's necessary for the
health of the organization and saves the unemployment payments.
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
health of the organization and saves the unemployment payments.
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Tom Kunich
Aug 9, 2023, 11:23:31 AM8/9/23
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Tom Kunich
Aug 9, 2023, 11:29:54 AM8/9/23
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Though I did call a few into the office and give them a piece of my mind. One of them was also a bike rider that rode with our group and he has only recently "forgiven" me.
John B.
Aug 9, 2023, 11:40:35 AM8/9/23
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 07:20:10 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It does make an exciting story... well except that a B-52 at altitude
is pressurized which means that to access the bomb bay the aircraft
would first have to be depressurized and why would the Aircraft
Commander do that. And why in the world would someone be creeping
around in the bomb bay with the doors open at 400 miles an hour.
Pretty windy I'd guess.
Granted I never flew on a B-53 but I did fly on propeller bombers and
believe me you are not free to go roaming around the airplane. It is
very much a matter of "sit there, don't touch anything and if there is
a problem we'll tell you what to do".
--
Cheers,
John B.
<funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
is pressurized which means that to access the bomb bay the aircraft
would first have to be depressurized and why would the Aircraft
Commander do that. And why in the world would someone be creeping
around in the bomb bay with the doors open at 400 miles an hour.
Pretty windy I'd guess.
Granted I never flew on a B-53 but I did fly on propeller bombers and
believe me you are not free to go roaming around the airplane. It is
very much a matter of "sit there, don't touch anything and if there is
a problem we'll tell you what to do".
--
Cheers,
John B.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 9, 2023, 2:49:49 PM8/9/23
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> Jeff and Flunky, unwilling and unable to serve their country
> and then even with a great head start, incapable of earning a descent living.
> It must be horrible to be so jealous of people so intellectually superior to you.
> I was never jealous of anyone in my entire life.
> Being poor I started working for a living early and never let up. Flunky pretends to know about engineering by quoting national standards as if anyone gives a damn.
- Those were international standards, idiot. The "I" in both IEC and ISO stands for International.
- I didn't quote from them, I corrected your ignorant statements about what they cover.
> Poor little Liebermann is unable to work anymore and is living on welfare.
Tom Kunich
Aug 10, 2023, 11:19:04 AM8/10/23
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I suggest you hang on to your job and pretend, like Frank that changing jobs to advance is a negative rather than a positive.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 11, 2023, 9:40:07 AM8/11/23
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> Because of engineers like you and Liebermann, employers are ceasing to accept people with degrees and no relevant experience.
> I suggest you hang on to your job
> and pretend, like Frank that changing jobs to advance is a negative rather than a positive.
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 11, 2023, 10:37:13 AM8/11/23
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:19:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Pretending to be an engineer again because you have a degree? Because of engineers like you and Liebermann, employers are ceasing to accept people with degrees and no relevant experience.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=%22BSEE+required%22>
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Pretending to be an engineer again because you have a degree? Because of engineers like you and Liebermann, employers are ceasing to accept people with degrees and no relevant experience.
12,800 job placement ads mentioning "BSEE required".
That includes "Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement" links,
so the 12,800 number will be slightly smaller:
<https://www.bsee.gov>
280,000 hits for "advanced degree required":
<https://www.google.com/search?q=%22advanced+degree+required%22>
Note that both the above search links are wrapped in quote marks so
that the search returns only exact hits.
Thanks for yet another amazing fact.
Tom Kunich
Aug 11, 2023, 10:39:39 AM8/11/23
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I'm sure that you think that working in one place on one job is stability but for my part people WANTING your developmental services is what I call stability. Remember that Krygowski believes that standing in front of classrooms and repeating the same lines out of a textbook day after day was job stability. There are horses for courses and while you may like what you're doing, I also liked what I was doing. The company I was working for, Diablo Research, changed names frequently as it was acquired or acquired other companies. Virtually every R&D company I worked for ended up under the same umbrella company.
What sort of job inquiries am I getting now? The type that show me that people don't know what the hell they're talking about - long experience in small medical instrument embedded systems, wide range of u-processors - and high voltage motors. Nothing could be more out of sync.
Have you ever had one of those scans that put you on a table and drive you into the scanner? You can feel that they are shaking back and forth when they reach the desired position - this limits the resolution of the scan and you can see it on the computer screen rendition of the scan as being slightly out of focus. This limits absolute assessment for diagnostic purposes. I would put a scale as part of the table so that the processor could calculate the resonant frequency and allow the analog motors to compensate for overshoot. Some of those scanners pretty obviously use stepping motors which is a bad idea since the height and mass of the patient in the scanner is so variable that it makes the problem too difficult and the noise scares the patient and they move. Both have the same effect.
Tom Kunich
Aug 11, 2023, 10:43:11 AM8/11/23
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Jeff Liebermann
Aug 11, 2023, 12:12:41 PM8/11/23
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:37:13?AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:19:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Pretending to be an engineer again because you have a degree? Because of engineers like you and Liebermann, employers are ceasing to accept people with degrees and no relevant experience.
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22BSEE+required%22>
>> 12,800 job placement ads mentioning "BSEE required".
>> That includes "Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement" links,
>> so the 12,800 number will be slightly smaller:
>> <https://www.bsee.gov>
>>
>> 280,000 hits for "advanced degree required":
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22advanced+degree+required%22>
>> Note that both the above search links are wrapped in quote marks so
>> that the search returns only exact hits.
>>
>> Thanks for yet another amazing fact.
bearing on your credibility, achievements or status. I could be the
devil incarnate or a candidate for beatification and you would still
be a very poor liar, a fabricator of amazing facts, and a
non-engineer. Insulting everyone within range does do anything for
you.
Also, I've worked with several engineers who lacked an engineering
degree. All were suitably qualified and quite smart. A few were
attending night school in order to obtain a degree. Are you attending
night school? Are taking online classes? Probably not. All you've
done is "discover" that you have a degree.
12/31/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/-Hmh6pTCz7U/m/XiKHzpeCDwAJ>
"I read all of the books that would have gotten me a bachelors degree
and was learning the realities of the world as well. I was rather
taken aback to discover that I had a degree in ship's navigation. And
from a prestigious school in Marin County as well."
Incidentally, I received a call yesterday from a former customer who
needed help with his 4 printers. A well meaning, but clueless
employee decided to help and reconfigured all the printers. When he
was done, nothing would work. I'll spare you the details. It took me
about 2 hrs to put everything back the way it was and then fix two
minor problems. Printers are fun.
Gone for another trudge, but in a different local park. If I don't
ruin the recording again, it should be here later this evening:
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:37:13?AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:19:01 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Pretending to be an engineer again because you have a degree? Because of engineers like you and Liebermann, employers are ceasing to accept people with degrees and no relevant experience.
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22BSEE+required%22>
>> 12,800 job placement ads mentioning "BSEE required".
>> That includes "Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement" links,
>> so the 12,800 number will be slightly smaller:
>> <https://www.bsee.gov>
>>
>> 280,000 hits for "advanced degree required":
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22advanced+degree+required%22>
>> Note that both the above search links are wrapped in quote marks so
>> that the search returns only exact hits.
>>
>> Thanks for yet another amazing fact.
>Tell us what you've ever done in your life Jeff - your degree has barely qualified you as a technician. Perhaps you should keep your stupid opinions to yourself. Isn't it time you change someone's printer color ink cartridge? Or are you now too sick to do such things?
I need to continue reminding you that what I do or don't do has no
bearing on your credibility, achievements or status. I could be the
devil incarnate or a candidate for beatification and you would still
be a very poor liar, a fabricator of amazing facts, and a
non-engineer. Insulting everyone within range does do anything for
you.
Also, I've worked with several engineers who lacked an engineering
degree. All were suitably qualified and quite smart. A few were
attending night school in order to obtain a degree. Are you attending
night school? Are taking online classes? Probably not. All you've
done is "discover" that you have a degree.
12/31/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/-Hmh6pTCz7U/m/XiKHzpeCDwAJ>
"I read all of the books that would have gotten me a bachelors degree
and was learning the realities of the world as well. I was rather
taken aback to discover that I had a degree in ship's navigation. And
from a prestigious school in Marin County as well."
Incidentally, I received a call yesterday from a former customer who
needed help with his 4 printers. A well meaning, but clueless
employee decided to help and reconfigured all the printers. When he
was done, nothing would work. I'll spare you the details. It took me
about 2 hrs to put everything back the way it was and then fix two
minor problems. Printers are fun.
Gone for another trudge, but in a different local park. If I don't
ruin the recording again, it should be here later this evening:
<https://www.strava.com/athlete/training>
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 11, 2023, 4:21:29 PM8/11/23
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Frank Krygowski
Aug 11, 2023, 4:50:01 PM8/11/23
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On 8/11/2023 10:39 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> What sort of job inquiries am I getting now?
I doubt anyone is proposing to hire you. You've bragged about similar
>
> What sort of job inquiries am I getting now?
things in the past, but here you are, still complaining about your life
situation.
But if you do get a real offer, please take it! Move out of that hellhole!
--
- Frank Krygowski
Tom Kunich
Aug 11, 2023, 4:54:42 PM8/11/23
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Tom Kunich
Aug 11, 2023, 4:57:57 PM8/11/23
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Tom Kunich
Aug 11, 2023, 5:00:07 PM8/11/23
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You even think that your pure white neighborhood is heaven and you lived there despite working in Youngstown - did you inherit your home from your parents?
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 11, 2023, 8:31:20 PM8/11/23
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It certainly eats your heart out that you have been a complete nothing and have to call me a liar to sooth your ridiculous feelings.
I'm not "calling" you a liar. I'm demonstrating that you are a liar
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It certainly eats your heart out that you have been a complete nothing and have to call me a liar to sooth your ridiculous feelings.
using your own RBT postings. There's no better proof than your own
comments as archived by Google.
08/03/2022
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cJi96AJ2A3k/m/JEyDC0TDBgAJ>
"I'll bet that there wasn't anything I didn't do wrong"
2 hrs, 4 miles, about 500 vertical feet.
<https://www.strava.com/activities/9628414072>
<https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/fall-creek>
Tom Kunich
Aug 12, 2023, 10:37:14 AM8/12/23
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If you were earning a living before all of your health problems that is fine. Being on welfare now should have shut you up but apparently you haven't even a trace of shame.
John B.
Aug 12, 2023, 10:49:34 PM8/12/23
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 07:37:11 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
"you don't even have a clue about bicycle mechanics! "????
Thus speaks the guy that had to have a Lawyer tell him how to install
a bottom bracket and, with out assistance, has whined about how
difficult it is to installing a seat post, handle bars and probably
half a dozen other items that I've forgotten.
--
Cheers,
John B.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thus speaks the guy that had to have a Lawyer tell him how to install
a bottom bracket and, with out assistance, has whined about how
difficult it is to installing a seat post, handle bars and probably
half a dozen other items that I've forgotten.
--
Cheers,
John B.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 13, 2023, 8:54:05 AM8/13/23
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> and the endless mismanagement of your talents really gets to you when I happen to have so much more experience as a real engineer and not your paperwork job.
- A good development engineer is aware that a manufacturing engineer isn't responsible for product design flaws.
- A good development engineer knows that work histories at NASA, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory are things that should be listed in some detail on a resume.
- A good development engineer with your alleged hardware experience knows that PWM isn't a commonly used method for testing cables - it isn't used to test cables at all - and "light line" isn't a commonly used term for fiber optics
- A good development engineer with your alleged software experience knows why the average speed on a bike computer can increase while the current speed is decreasing, and knows that calculating speed is an extremely simple algorithm.
- A good development engineer with your alleged software experience knows the value of VHDL in ASIC design.
- You made a comment once that you developed a piece of communication hardware for NASA, wrote the user manual for it, and traveled around the country demonstrating it to ends users (https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_dQYGNB6v6w/m/CzN9XWIxAAAJ) - while working for a company your resume shows you spent about 1 year at . NASA moves as the speed of molasses. Before a product intended for use in the ISS was ever shown to end users it would have endured literally _years_ of testing and review. If you were given the responsibility of demonstrating it, the design would have been locked down _years_ before you got there. A good development engineer would know that.
> You shouldn't feel so bad since you value job security above all else.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 13, 2023, 8:59:28 AM8/13/23
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On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:37:14 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:31:20 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >It certainly eats your heart out that you have been a complete nothing and have to call me a liar to sooth your ridiculous feelings.
> > I'm not "calling" you a liar. I'm demonstrating that you are a liar
> > using your own RBT postings. There's no better proof than your own
> > comments as archived by Google.
> >
> > 08/03/2022
> > <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cJi96AJ2A3k/m/JEyDC0TDBgAJ>
> > "I'll bet that there wasn't anything I didn't do wrong"
> >
> > 2 hrs, 4 miles, about 500 vertical feet.
> > <https://www.strava.com/activities/9628414072>
> > <https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/fall-creek>
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> No wonder you have a pile of garbage that you were representing as your collection of bicycles
Bike-shaming isn't something a well-seasoned rider should engage in. It only reveals the weakness of your character.
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:31:20 PM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 13:54:39 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >It certainly eats your heart out that you have been a complete nothing and have to call me a liar to sooth your ridiculous feelings.
> > I'm not "calling" you a liar. I'm demonstrating that you are a liar
> > using your own RBT postings. There's no better proof than your own
> > comments as archived by Google.
> >
> > 08/03/2022
> > <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/cJi96AJ2A3k/m/JEyDC0TDBgAJ>
> > "I'll bet that there wasn't anything I didn't do wrong"
> >
> > 2 hrs, 4 miles, about 500 vertical feet.
> > <https://www.strava.com/activities/9628414072>
> > <https://www.alltrails.com/trail/us/california/fall-creek>
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> No wonder you have a pile of garbage that you were representing as your collection of bicycles
> you don't even have a clue about bicycle mechanics! Taking all day to get the brakes set up properly because of limitations of the frame is not, not knowing what I'm doing.
> It is part of a learning process that you never were able to correctly achieve.
> Your being unable to go from vacuum tubes to a transistor is another example of your failures.
>
> If you were earning a living before all of your health problems that is fine. Being on welfare now should have shut you up but apparently you haven't even a trace of shame.
Tom Kunich
Aug 14, 2023, 7:38:45 PM8/14/23
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specialized with sit up handlebars and photos of other bicycle junk so bad that they don't even have handlebar tape on them, he should be shamed.
I know where he lives and know where his house it. I rode all around that area and in his best day he could not have ridden from where his business was located to where his house it. And he couldn't ride that far anyway. And it is all uphill and some of it stand up. None of that junk could carry a gear low enough even with a triple.
Liebermann is perfectly welcome to the group until he starts acting like some sort of expert at something. His "college education" barely qualified him to be a technician. So his comments about engineering is just so much hot air. 1 year working for a company as a test engineer bullshitted into being a design engineer for transistorized marine radios isn't fooling any real engineer.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 15, 2023, 7:46:58 AM8/15/23
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> and "proves" it with a 1 or 2 mile ride on a
> specialized with sit up handlebars
> and photos of other bicycle junk so bad that they don't even have handlebar tape on them, he should be shamed.
> I know where he lives and know where his house it. I rode all around that area and in his best day he could not have ridden from where his business was located to where his house it. And he couldn't ride that far anyway. And it is all uphill and some of it stand up.
> None of that junk could carry a gear low enough even with a triple.
>
> Liebermann is perfectly welcome to the group
> until he starts acting like some sort of expert at something.
> His "college education" barely qualified him to be a technician.
> So his comments about engineering is just so much hot air.
> 1 year working for a company as a test engineer bullshitted into being a design engineer for transistorized marine radios isn't fooling any real engineer.
Jeff Liebermann
Aug 15, 2023, 2:12:38 PM8/15/23
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
I wasn't going to answer this, but it's a good excuse to not clean up
the kitchen.
>when Liebermann is telling us that he is a bike rider
Nope. I've mentioned several times that I've had problems riding due
to back problems. I've also mentioned that with stretching and some
exercises, it's getting better. I can now ride perhaps 5 miles before
the pain becomes excessive. There was some hope that my recent hiatal
hernia surgery would fix the problem, but that didn't happen.
>and "proves" it with a 1 or 2 mile ride
Did you even look at my "rides"?
<https://www.strava.com/athletes/103870441>
They're not rides. They're walks or hikes. Typically, they 3 to 4
miles in two hours with 500ft of climbing. At this time, that's the
best I can do. I post them to Strava mostly for my cardiologist to
inspect. There are also blood pressure, pulse, and oxygen saturation
records, which I don't post because I don't want to pay for a Strava
subscription.
Remind me why you deleted your Strava page and data?
>on a specialized with sit up handlebars
Note that I have always been a non-competitive rider. Actually, I
want to switch my drop handlebars on my Miyata 610 to some type of
"comfort" bars. I'll probably also replace the flat bars on my Gary
Fisher Tassajara to "riser" bars.
>and photos of other bicycle junk so bad that they don't even
>have handlebar tape on them, he should be shamed.
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/>
I don't need handlebar tape on a bicycle that rubber grips and where I
don't need to ride in the Quasimodo position. Everything I have with
drop bars has bar tape. Let me know when you find something shameful
on my bicycles (except for the rusty chains, which were cleaned or
replaced many years ago).
>I know where he lives and know where his house it.
It's hardly a secret. However, you'll probably get lost trying to
find it using a GPS or Google Maps. Many of the nearby roads do not
exist.
>I rode all around that area and in his best day he could not
>have ridden from where his business was located to where his
>house it.
That's true. I couldn't even do it downhill. My main problem was
that Hwy 9 is narrow and cars were coming far too close for comfort.
When Hwy 9 was close for construction, I tried riding uphill, and also
failed because I was constantly out of breath. That was in 2000. The
next year, I had a triple bypass operation, which explained why I was
having problems. After that, most of my riding was limited to errands
to downtown Santa Cruz, and a few trips along fairly flat coastal
routes.
>And he couldn't ride that far anyway. And it is all uphill and
>some of it stand up.
Very true.
>None of that junk could carry a gear low enough even with a triple.
Really?
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/Gary-Fisher-Tassajara.JPG>
Incidentally, I fished the bicycle out of a dumpster and replaced a
few parts. Total parts cost was about $75.
>Liebermann is perfectly welcome to the group until he starts
>acting like some sort of expert at something.
Expert? I don't recall claiming to be an expert at anything. Out of
idle curiosity, in what field did I claim to be an expert? Certainly
not cycling or even bicycle technology. Perhaps 20th century marine
radio, 2-way radio and electronic design?
>His "college education" barely qualified him to be a technician.
I see. If you can't obtain a college degree, you just claim that a
degree is useless. Of course, whether my BSEE qualifies me for
anything doesn't matter. You're still incompetent whether I have a
degree or not.
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
Here are your claims to having a degree:
02/09/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_Y1MbXuzvNo/m/o6omSxsfAgAJ>
General education - Degree in navigation
Tality requested I get a BA so that they could promote me to
department manager.
Chabot College - Hayward, CA"
12/31/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/-Hmh6pTCz7U/m/XiKHzpeCDwAJ>
"I read all of the books that would have gotten me a bachelors degree
and was learning the realities of the world as well. I was rather
taken aback to discover that I had a degree in ship's navigation. And
from a prestigious school in Marin County as well."
Jan 21, 2022
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/9WEuMylDquc/m/bT-Pe6JwAgAJ
"Or is that some sort of claim that my graduate degree from the Marine
School of Navigation is under question?"
>So his comments about engineering is just so much hot air.
That's also good to know but you're still an incompetent.
>1 year working for a company as a test engineer bullshitted
>into being a design engineer for transistorized marine radios
>isn't fooling any real engineer.
I was at Intech for 8.5 years. You seem to have a chronic problem
with numbers. Perhaps you've re-arranged the numeric key caps on your
keyboard causing all the numbers to be encrypted?
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/>
Also, you're not a real engineer so I need not worry about me fooling
you.
<cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
I wasn't going to answer this, but it's a good excuse to not clean up
the kitchen.
>when Liebermann is telling us that he is a bike rider
to back problems. I've also mentioned that with stretching and some
exercises, it's getting better. I can now ride perhaps 5 miles before
the pain becomes excessive. There was some hope that my recent hiatal
hernia surgery would fix the problem, but that didn't happen.
>and "proves" it with a 1 or 2 mile ride
<https://www.strava.com/athletes/103870441>
They're not rides. They're walks or hikes. Typically, they 3 to 4
miles in two hours with 500ft of climbing. At this time, that's the
best I can do. I post them to Strava mostly for my cardiologist to
inspect. There are also blood pressure, pulse, and oxygen saturation
records, which I don't post because I don't want to pay for a Strava
subscription.
Remind me why you deleted your Strava page and data?
>on a specialized with sit up handlebars
want to switch my drop handlebars on my Miyata 610 to some type of
"comfort" bars. I'll probably also replace the flat bars on my Gary
Fisher Tassajara to "riser" bars.
>and photos of other bicycle junk so bad that they don't even
>have handlebar tape on them, he should be shamed.
I don't need handlebar tape on a bicycle that rubber grips and where I
don't need to ride in the Quasimodo position. Everything I have with
drop bars has bar tape. Let me know when you find something shameful
on my bicycles (except for the rusty chains, which were cleaned or
replaced many years ago).
>I know where he lives and know where his house it.
find it using a GPS or Google Maps. Many of the nearby roads do not
exist.
>I rode all around that area and in his best day he could not
>have ridden from where his business was located to where his
>house it.
that Hwy 9 is narrow and cars were coming far too close for comfort.
When Hwy 9 was close for construction, I tried riding uphill, and also
failed because I was constantly out of breath. That was in 2000. The
next year, I had a triple bypass operation, which explained why I was
having problems. After that, most of my riding was limited to errands
to downtown Santa Cruz, and a few trips along fairly flat coastal
routes.
>And he couldn't ride that far anyway. And it is all uphill and
>some of it stand up.
>None of that junk could carry a gear low enough even with a triple.
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/Gary-Fisher-Tassajara.JPG>
Incidentally, I fished the bicycle out of a dumpster and replaced a
few parts. Total parts cost was about $75.
>Liebermann is perfectly welcome to the group until he starts
>acting like some sort of expert at something.
idle curiosity, in what field did I claim to be an expert? Certainly
not cycling or even bicycle technology. Perhaps 20th century marine
radio, 2-way radio and electronic design?
>His "college education" barely qualified him to be a technician.
degree is useless. Of course, whether my BSEE qualifies me for
anything doesn't matter. You're still incompetent whether I have a
degree or not.
<http://www.learnbydestroying.com/jeffl/crud/diploma-jeffl.jpg>
Here are your claims to having a degree:
02/09/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_Y1MbXuzvNo/m/o6omSxsfAgAJ>
General education - Degree in navigation
Tality requested I get a BA so that they could promote me to
department manager.
Chabot College - Hayward, CA"
12/31/2021
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/-Hmh6pTCz7U/m/XiKHzpeCDwAJ>
"I read all of the books that would have gotten me a bachelors degree
and was learning the realities of the world as well. I was rather
taken aback to discover that I had a degree in ship's navigation. And
from a prestigious school in Marin County as well."
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/9WEuMylDquc/m/bT-Pe6JwAgAJ
"Or is that some sort of claim that my graduate degree from the Marine
School of Navigation is under question?"
>So his comments about engineering is just so much hot air.
>1 year working for a company as a test engineer bullshitted
>into being a design engineer for transistorized marine radios
>isn't fooling any real engineer.
with numbers. Perhaps you've re-arranged the numeric key caps on your
keyboard causing all the numbers to be encrypted?
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-liebermann-151823/details/experience/>
Also, you're not a real engineer so I need not worry about me fooling
you.
sms
Aug 15, 2023, 4:10:21 PM8/15/23
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On 8/5/2023 7:13 PM, John B. wrote:
<snip>
> Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
What is clear is that he is insanely jealous of Jeff Liebermann. With
good reason apparently.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
<snip>
> Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
What is clear is that he is insanely jealous of Jeff Liebermann. With
good reason apparently.
--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 15, 2023, 6:26:42 PM8/15/23
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On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:10:21 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> On 8/5/2023 7:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
>
> What is clear is that he is insanely jealous of Jeff Liebermann. With
> good reason apparently.
>
+1
> On 8/5/2023 7:13 PM, John B. wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
>
> What is clear is that he is insanely jealous of Jeff Liebermann. With
> good reason apparently.
>
Tom Kunich
Aug 16, 2023, 10:10:34 AM8/16/23
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Is this beginning to be sound like you and you want me top be jealous of your marvelous accomplishments like being a city counsel member that was so beloved that no one would even put your name in a second time? What did you ever do for a real living?
But I do have to thank you for showing everyone the sort of mentality of the Stupid 4. You all have severe metal illnesses and you would be in homes for the insane if there were such things any more. I expect to see your name in the papers at any time for holding up gas stations because you're not bright enough that they all work on credit these days.
Tom Kunich
Aug 16, 2023, 10:13:47 AM8/16/23
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funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 16, 2023, 11:10:54 AM8/16/23
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On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:13:47 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:42 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:10:21 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> > > On 8/5/2023 7:13 PM, John B. wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
> > >
> > > What is clear is that he is insanely jealous of Jeff Liebermann. With
> > > good reason apparently.
> > >
> > +1
> There's that "working" engineer posting on the group again because he is so busy with his engineering work.
That was posted last night at 10:30, dumbass.
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:26:42 PM UTC-7, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:10:21 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> > > On 8/5/2023 7:13 PM, John B. wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > Or is this just silly old Tommy ranting and raving?
> > >
> > > What is clear is that he is insanely jealous of Jeff Liebermann. With
> > > good reason apparently.
> > >
> > +1
> There's that "working" engineer posting on the group again because he is so busy with his engineering work.
> I just don't know where you find the time with all of the engineering you're doing.
sms
Aug 16, 2023, 12:46:06 PM8/16/23
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On 8/16/2023 8:10 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Because I have the skills, acumen, and resources to manage a 40 hour/week job into significantly less time. It's one of the reasons they allow me to livestream bike races in my office during working hours (I have stage 2 of the Tour of Denmark streaming right now). The fact that you admitted it took you 60 hours/week to do a 40 hour/week job shows time management is a skill you never mastered and probably one of the (many) reasons you kept getting fired.
A 40 hour workweek LOL. Haven't been many of those in Silicon Valley for
> Because I have the skills, acumen, and resources to manage a 40 hour/week job into significantly less time. It's one of the reasons they allow me to livestream bike races in my office during working hours (I have stage 2 of the Tour of Denmark streaming right now). The fact that you admitted it took you 60 hours/week to do a 40 hour/week job shows time management is a skill you never mastered and probably one of the (many) reasons you kept getting fired.
decades. The job I'm at now I'm in the office at least 40 hours a week
then on Zoom/Meet/Teams/WebEx at all hours working with employees and
suppliers all over the world. Our CEO would be very unhappy if anyone
made a habit of streaming sporting events.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 16, 2023, 1:37:40 PM8/16/23
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On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 12:46:06 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> On 8/16/2023 8:10 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Because I have the skills, acumen, and resources to manage a 40 hour/week job into significantly less time. It's one of the reasons they allow me to livestream bike races in my office during working hours (I have stage 2 of the Tour of Denmark streaming right now). The fact that you admitted it took you 60 hours/week to do a 40 hour/week job shows time management is a skill you never mastered and probably one of the (many) reasons you kept getting fired.
> A 40 hour workweek LOL. Haven't been many of those in Silicon Valley for
> decades. The job I'm at now I'm in the office at least 40 hours a week
> then on Zoom/Meet/Teams/WebEx at all hours working with employees and
> suppliers all over the world.
I've had a few headhunters come knocking recently, offering appreciably more money, but those would be jobs similar to yours. My time has become much to precious to me. I'm comfortable enough with my current salary that the stress and loss of free time simply isn't worth it to me. They like me here and give me a great deal of latitude with my time management. The only complaints I've ever gotten is that I don't bend the standards enough for them sometimes, but I keep the regulators at bay which is what they really want.
> On 8/16/2023 8:10 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Because I have the skills, acumen, and resources to manage a 40 hour/week job into significantly less time. It's one of the reasons they allow me to livestream bike races in my office during working hours (I have stage 2 of the Tour of Denmark streaming right now). The fact that you admitted it took you 60 hours/week to do a 40 hour/week job shows time management is a skill you never mastered and probably one of the (many) reasons you kept getting fired.
> A 40 hour workweek LOL. Haven't been many of those in Silicon Valley for
> decades. The job I'm at now I'm in the office at least 40 hours a week
> then on Zoom/Meet/Teams/WebEx at all hours working with employees and
> suppliers all over the world.
> Our CEO would be very unhappy if anyone
> made a habit of streaming sporting events.
On that note, before I took this job I worked for Schneider Electric as an Engineering Lab Manager. They moved us into a new building at one point - a big shiny palace with a health club and company subsidized cafeteria. The place was built to handle 2000 people, and they had installed large monitors all around the walls of the cafeteria. The first year we were there was the 2010 world cup. Schneider prided itself on an extremely diverse workforce, and we had people from ~ 30 countries on staff. They made a policy that allowed employees to go watch the soccer matches of their home countries in the cafeteria during working hours.
The company I'm at right now isn't that generous, but they've rewarded me substantially on merit. I didn't expect I would get perks like I did an both HP and Schneider - such as being able to work out at the on-premises gym when I felt like it (provided I didn't have any pressing schedule to meet, of course), but it's worked out well so far.
*For Tom's benefit - this is how one is treated when you show dedication and results, as well as treat others with dignity and respect. I happened to get lucky here with management that reciprocates.
sms
Aug 17, 2023, 2:31:04 PM8/17/23
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On 8/16/2023 10:37 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
<snip>
> I've had a few headhunters come knocking recently, offering appreciably more money, but those would be jobs similar to yours. My time has become much to precious to me. I'm comfortable enough with my current salary that the stress and loss of free time simply isn't worth it to me. They like me here and give me a great deal of latitude with my time management. The only complaints I've ever gotten is that I don't bend the standards enough for them sometimes, but I keep the regulators at bay which is what they really want.
I came out of retirement for my current gig after telling headhunters
that I wasn't interested in the jobs that they had.
With the child-units out of the house I decided to go back to work since
the projects are really interesting and the hours were supposed to be
flexible. I know the company's CEO and the projects are just what I like
to do with a lot of hands on lab work in addition to the system design.
<snip>
> I've had a few headhunters come knocking recently, offering appreciably more money, but those would be jobs similar to yours. My time has become much to precious to me. I'm comfortable enough with my current salary that the stress and loss of free time simply isn't worth it to me. They like me here and give me a great deal of latitude with my time management. The only complaints I've ever gotten is that I don't bend the standards enough for them sometimes, but I keep the regulators at bay which is what they really want.
that I wasn't interested in the jobs that they had.
With the child-units out of the house I decided to go back to work since
the projects are really interesting and the hours were supposed to be
flexible. I know the company's CEO and the projects are just what I like
to do with a lot of hands on lab work in addition to the system design.
funkma...@hotmail.com
Aug 17, 2023, 3:23:40 PM8/17/23
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On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 2:31:04 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> On 8/16/2023 10:37 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > I've had a few headhunters come knocking recently, offering appreciably more money, but those would be jobs similar to yours. My time has become much to precious to me. I'm comfortable enough with my current salary that the stress and loss of free time simply isn't worth it to me. They like me here and give me a great deal of latitude with my time management. The only complaints I've ever gotten is that I don't bend the standards enough for them sometimes, but I keep the regulators at bay which is what they really want.
> I came out of retirement for my current gig after telling headhunters
> that I wasn't interested in the jobs that they had.
>
> With the child-units out of the house I decided to go back to work since
> the projects are really interesting and the hours were supposed to be
> flexible. I know the company's CEO and the projects are just what I like
> to do with a lot of hands on lab work in addition to the system design.
Sounds like they need you more than you need them - I'd call that "leverage"
> On 8/16/2023 10:37 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > I've had a few headhunters come knocking recently, offering appreciably more money, but those would be jobs similar to yours. My time has become much to precious to me. I'm comfortable enough with my current salary that the stress and loss of free time simply isn't worth it to me. They like me here and give me a great deal of latitude with my time management. The only complaints I've ever gotten is that I don't bend the standards enough for them sometimes, but I keep the regulators at bay which is what they really want.
> I came out of retirement for my current gig after telling headhunters
> that I wasn't interested in the jobs that they had.
>
> With the child-units out of the house I decided to go back to work since
> the projects are really interesting and the hours were supposed to be
> flexible. I know the company's CEO and the projects are just what I like
> to do with a lot of hands on lab work in addition to the system design.
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