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How many functionalities do you perform, every day, on Android, that are impossible on iOS [and vice versa]?

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Arlen Holder

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May 12, 2020, 10:45:19 PM5/12/20
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How many app functionalities do you do all day, every day, on Android, that
are simply impossible on iOS [and vice versa]?

For example, oh, say, completely off the top of my head... loading your own
app launcher, changing the homescreen to be any grid, any number of rows,
any number of columns, changing the icon shapes & colors, creating empty
folders for placeholders if desired, changing the name of any app icon,
putting an app icon in two different places if you want, removing an empty
dock if you don't want it, extracting an app (even the system apps) to an
IPA/APK any time you want (whether or not that app version still exists on
the official app store or in your backups), setting the default for things
like your web browser (and a zillion other things), running the official
Tor Browser (Mike Tegas, bless him, did his best with the iOS Onion
Browser, but even he said it was impossible to replicate what the official
Tor Browser does), automatic call recording, screenshots delayed, if
necessary, by a few seconds even with full screen scrolled screenshots that
scroll off the screen if necessary, a simple app drawer app (of all things
impossible on iOS!), graphical wifi and cellular signal strength debuggers
that show graphs for all visible access points, simply making a list of all
apps installed on the device into an editable text file using nothing but
the device itself, transporting freeware APKs to another phone and having a
great chance of them working - particularly via simply popping in the
sdcard (which simply doesn't exist on iOS devices) or using USB without any
bloatware whatsoever to access the full visible file system both read and
write, using any app repository you want sans rooting/jailbreaking, youtube
streaming sans ads and youtube downloads on steroids for free via apps like
newpipe and yet even with anonymous channel subscription for example, audio
recording to a binary audio file at the same time you're transcribing
completely offline to an editable text file, easily eliminate the
Advertiser ID for privacy by eliminating the GoogleID/iCloud AppleID
without any loss of functionality whatsoever, real FM radio, etc, (all off
the top of my head).

As for hardware... the differences are less pronounced...

Over 99.9% of Android phones ever made have a 3.5mm headphone jack.
And Apple isn't even in the top ten for camera QOR this week (as usual).
And where's that sdcard which is so convenient to double Android storage?
etc.
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The reason iOS lacks basic functionality isn't the hardware - it's Apple.

Alan Baker

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May 13, 2020, 1:02:44 AM5/13/20
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On 2020-05-12 7:45 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> How many app functionalities do you do all day, every day, on Android, that
> are simply impossible on iOS [and vice versa]?
>
> For example, oh, say, completely off the top of my head... loading your own
> app launcher, changing the homescreen to be any grid,

You change your homescreen grid "all day, every day", do you, Liar?
As usual, you carefully avoid talking about statistics that matter, Liar.

99% of Android phones ever made are no longer in use.

> And Apple isn't even in the top ten for camera QOR this week (as usual).

Because the top ten is an important metric for you!

> And where's that sdcard which is so convenient to double Android storage?

It's not there. That's a choice. Learn to deal with it.


Wilf

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May 13, 2020, 4:35:08 AM5/13/20
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See, for a long time but only modestly experienced user of iPhones,
these debates do nothing to help expand my knowledge, because you guys
just seem to enjoy the bitter name calling. It's not a debate, it's a
wrestling match and that's so very sad because you all know so much and
could help others so much, with a bit of civility all round. But I know,
that's not going to happen any time soon in this news group.

Wilf

nospam

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May 13, 2020, 6:39:34 AM5/13/20
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In article <r9fv1j$8s4$1...@dont-email.me>, Alan Baker
<notony...@no.no.no.no> wrote:

> > And where's that sdcard which is so convenient to double Android storage?
>
> It's not there. That's a choice. Learn to deal with it.

plenty of android phones do not have an sd card, including the google
pixel and oneplus, and for those that do, it's anything but convenient.

Arlen Holder

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May 13, 2020, 6:52:25 AM5/13/20
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In response to what Wilf <wi...@replyto.newsgroup> wrote :

> See, for a long time but only modestly experienced user of iPhones,
> these debates do nothing to help expand my knowledge, because you guys
> just seem to enjoy the bitter name calling. It's not a debate, it's a
> wrestling match and that's so very sad because you all know so much and
> could help others so much, with a bit of civility all round. But I know,
> that's not going to happen any time soon in this news group.

Hi Wilf,

Are you willing to review the _adult_ answer to your question?

IMHO, *what you're complaining about is simply that apologists exist*.
1. Apologists like nospam brazenly deny even what Apple admits
2. Apologists like Steve Scharf simply claim all opinions are facts
3. Apologists like Alan Baker call all facts they don't like, lies.
etc.

If you look at _my_ posts, you'll see I always mirror the implied intent
and intelligence of the person I'm responding to, where I easily and often
have adult discussions with other adults.

Here's an example of a similar style of thread:
o What can you do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Windows XP or Windows 7?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/DAATmTtlAp8>

Notice that on Usenet, there are people like the apologists...
o Who ruin any chance of an adult conversation on Usenet.

And yet, if the apologists simply don't exist...
o The conversation remains adult throughout the entire thread.

Here are some examples of recent _adult_ conversations on various subjects:
o Battery usage, by The Real Bev
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/MyMZnpRaQO0>
o What method do you prefer for scheduling a batch file to run silently
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.msdos.batch/JZMlGo_2__E>
o Are they updating your Android device too frequently lately?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/a_62P0R-O6M>
o Do you know of a free Android SMBv2 (or SMBv3) client?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/tl3Q05QGyAw>
o For new people: how to reduce your right-click "New" clutter
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/wSgcYgNFwUM>
o How do you find the unique app package real name on your Android device?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/4TcwyAcSPqM/7Dq-mCcZBQAJ>
o Hint: Changing the camera app can remarkably improve your photo quality
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/r_I_vFF0TYA>
etc.

Notice something about those _adult_ conversations?
o HINT: Apologists aren't on them.

By way of contrast, if an apologist exist on the conversation....
o It immediately devolves to a childish potty mouth tirade by the apologist

Happens every time when apologists are involved

Why?
o I don't know why.

Ask them.

Here are just some example of conversations where apologists exist:
o What advice would you give a tech-averse older couple for their 1st smartphone?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/zTNUh94Z2Tw/akQ2-Tm4AAAJ>
o Thunderspy: Thunderbolt Flaws Expose Millions of PCs to Hands-On Hacking
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.os.linux/DAATmTtlAp8>
o New Character Bug in Messages Causing iOS Devices to Crash
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/_Ga2l3XO0qk>
o New vulnerabilities (described as numerous) have been detected
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/RrXonVt7_y0>
o apparently Apple not in bug hurry to fix email and text thing
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/9b5oQL8wX-Q>
o Apple today announced financial results for its fiscal 2020
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/O4lIHCxR_rY>
o DXOMark Mobile Phone Camera Quality of Results
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/0bPpvi9EAu4/umh47tAxBAAJ>
etc.

As an example, only two minutes ago, nospam posted this to that last one:
"since apple doesn't pay them anything, they aren't
at the top of the list?"
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/0bPpvi9EAu4/umh47tAxBAAJ>

What do you expect to happen when an apologist claims (incessantly) that
the only reason Apple iPhones aren't in the top ten of the best mobile
phone reviews on the planet, is simply that Apple doesn't bribe them?

This is the question you should be asking:
o *Is an adult conversation possible when people like nospam exist?*

Likewise, in that _same_ thread, earlier today, Alan Baker attempted his
pathological stalking hijacking of that long-running adult conversation
by simply claiming all facts he simply doesn't like, are lies.
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/0bPpvi9EAu4/MBWSWIsfBAAJ>

This is the _adult_ question you should be asking:
o *Is it even possible to carry on an adult conversation with Alan Baker?*

I already know the answer to those questions...
o But you, Wilf, need to ask them of yourself.

IMHO, an adult discussion is _impossible_ with apologists, IMHO.
o Just try to have one with Alan Baker, for example... (just try it).

In summary...
o IMHO, *what you're complaining about is simply that apologists exist*.
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If apologists didn't exist, the world would be a better place for adults.

For nospam

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May 13, 2020, 7:31:12 AM5/13/20
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In article <news:130520200639321380%nos...@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>> And where's that sdcard which is so convenient to double Android storage?
>>
>> It's not there. That's a choice. Learn to deal with it.
>
> plenty of android phones do not have an sd card, including the google
> pixel and oneplus, and for those that do, it's anything but convenient.

Hi nospam,

IMHO, you apologists _hate_ that Apple lacks modern hardware functionality.
o Such as something as usefully functional as an sdcard slot.
<https://i.postimg.cc/136096sR/motog700.jpg>

Facts:
1. My $100 Moto G7 and my $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus both have sdcard slots.
<https://i.postimg.cc/CxjDygsz/motog704.jpg>
2. On my Stylo, I automatically extracted over 750 APKs to that sdcard.
<https://i.postimg.cc/QtNcky5V/motog702.jpg>
3. I put that sdcard on my G7 and re-installed over 450 apps that way.
<https://i.postimg.cc/MZF1VtGK/motog703.jpg>

Assessment of facts:
o How exactly do you assess that sdcard is "anything but convenient"?
<https://i.postimg.cc/DzTrmZwr/motog701.jpg>

Since I'm an adult, I can quite easily provide evidence of those facts.
o Where is your evidence, nospam, sdcards are "anything but convenient"?

HINT: Apologists' belief systems are almost always completely imaginary.
o Apologists' belief systems are often based on exact zero (0) facts.

REFERENCE:
o What is the closest Apple iPhone comparison to the $100 64GB 4GB RAM Motorola G7?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/UIYH1QYp8Pw/mN8Sk97vAQAJ>
--
If apologists simply didn't exist, this would be a more adult conversation.

Wilf

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May 13, 2020, 1:46:51 PM5/13/20
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Sure, but I just don't like everyone calling everyone else "liars" and
far worse, just because one or the other believes the other or the one
to be inaccurate or even an apologists.

Wilf

Alan Baker

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May 13, 2020, 3:25:19 PM5/13/20
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Sorry, but I've been down this road before.

Arlen isn't interested in honest discussion.

Arlen Holder

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May 13, 2020, 3:25:56 PM5/13/20
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In response to what Wilf <wi...@replyto.newsgroup> wrote :

> Sure, but I just don't like everyone calling everyone else "liars" and
> far worse, just because one or the other believes the other or the one
> to be inaccurate or even an apologists.

Hi Wilf,

I think the problem is simply that the apologists exist...
o See below my adult arguments for that, and the examples easily provided.

When apologists do NOT exist, the conversations generally remain polite.
o And, most importantly, _purposefully_ helpful.

See proof below that any factual conversation _without_ apologists...
o Is easily kept at the adult level, polite, helpful, and informative.

The instant the apologists infest a thread... the proof is clear...
o The apologists unilaterally turn the thread into childish drivel.

This is just one example of an adult conversation, sans the apologists:
o *Life with COVID-19*, by The Real Bev (where I contributed facts)
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/Uwuhlfo4h04>

In the entire history of Usenet, given I've posted, oh, how many
_thousands_ of posts, have you even _once_ found the facts I reported to be
wrong?

Not even once?
o HINT: I know the answer to that question, but you need to figure it out.

There's a _reason_ nobody on this planet has ever found my facts to be
materially wrong, Wilf... and that's because I'm an adult... so I don't
quote a fact that isn't already well verified in the published record.

Now that we've established my facts are nearly 100% accurate...
o We come to the _second_ adult question for you.

How many times in a typical thread, do apologists like nospam, Lewis, BK,
Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, et al., claim every fact they don't like is...
o "A lie by liars"

HINT:
o Why do apologists like nospam & Alan Baker incessantly call facts
they don't like "lies" and all bearers of facts they don't like "Liars"?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/64pYEfirKiI/upb_51seBQAJ>

The scenario you deplore, is what all adults deplore:
a. An adult make a claim which is backed up by valid verified facts.
b. The apologists brezenly claim all the facts in that claim are lies.
c. The adult vainly provides _more_ facts, refuting the apologists
d. The apologists don't _read_ the facts & again claim they're all lies.
(repeat ad infinitum)

Want proof?
o I already provided _plenty_ of examples of adult conversations
(Which the apologists weren't on - which is the entire point.)

The answer to your question is simple...
o You should be directing questions not to the adults - but to apologists.

In summary, it's not possible to carry on an adult conversation...
o ... with an apologist ...

Yet, it's trivially easy to carry on a polite informative discussion
o With an adult.

Here's just one recent example of a conversation WITHOUT apologists!
o *Questions about mounting & balancing tires at home*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.autos.tech/J5-7TxdDpBw>
And another....
o *Motor is wheezing, as if it's breathing - why?*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.autos.tech/t3M4wkhPjCo>
And another...
o *Trick for sealing tire beads at home after replacing them*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.autos.tech/n4bqsqo6ObY/fVHgTM-wAgAJ>
etc.

The only difference is the apologists are _not_ on those conversations!
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NOTE: A fact is different from an assessment of that fact.

Arlen Holder

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May 13, 2020, 3:47:49 PM5/13/20
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Hi Wilf,

By way of honest, _adult_, purposefully helpful discussion...

I need you to think like an adult about what I'm going to inform you below.
o Never even once in my entire life, have I called the apologists, "liars".

Not even once!

It's _only_ the apologists, whose response to facts, is to claim every fact
they don't like is a "lie by liars".

Not me.

In addition to already suggesting you focus your question on the
apologists, I must point out that it's _only_ the apologists calling all
facts they don't like...
o "lies by liars"

It's not me.

Notice this important fact, Wilf.
o I have never claimed the apologists were 'liars'.

Not even once.
o In _thousands_ upon thousands of rebuttals to apologists' claims.

I have _never_ even once called their claims "lies".
o Nor have I ever called them, even once, to be "liars".

So what you deplore, is _only_ the apologists' actions...
o Not mine.

You need to _understand_ this adult concept, Wilf.
o For what you accidentally ascribe to me - you need to re-validate...

In essence, there are only three kinds of apologists... (IMHO)
a. There's nospam, who is in a special category all by himself;
b. There's Steve Scharf & badgolferman, who are simply ill informed;
c. Then there's the vast majority of apologists, like Alan Baker is.

What you deplore is that the third category exists, where the record
clearly shows how I handle all three categories:

A. nospam

This apologist I've often proved has a credibility of around the same
result as a coin toss, where almost 100% of the time, it's clear he _knows_
the answer, but he simply doesn't _like_ the answer - so he fabricates
functionality that even he knows doesn't exist.

For this type of apologists, I've _never_ said he "lies"; I simply prove
him wrong by using facts, and I point out that his credibility is such that
I don't believe even he believes half of what he claims (which I can tell
by the way he orchestrates the wording of his claims - much like Bill
Clinton did as in "I didn't inhale").

B. Adults who are simply ignorant of the facts.

This type of apologist isn't whom you're complaining about, where people
like badgolferman complained that Android didn't do the simplest things,
which I proved to him that Android easily does, and he just disappeared, so
he didn't act like an adult - but he didn't call all facts lies either.

It's less adult like with people like Steve Scharf, who can't figure out
the difference between a fact and an opinion, where he claims my "opinions"
he agrees with 60% of the time - but he uses the word "facts", which is
just his mistaking facts for opinions. Similarly, he turns into an instant
child when proven wrong by the facts, e.g., when he claimed the Qualcomm
royalties went down, when clearly they went up... but the point is that
this type of apologist is simply not used to someone like me who always has
a fantastic grasp of facts so it's quite trivial to prove them wrong on
facts where they simply disappear after being shown to be wrong.

C. Apologists like Alan Baker...

These apologists are quite immune to facts as we showed clearly here:
o *Why are apologists like Alan Baker so fantastically immune to basic*
*skills an adult should have on the Internet?*
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/EiNl6hyMBDo>

In that thread, clearly, I laid a trap for Alan Baker simply to prove how
fantastically stupid these apologists always are, where the _reason_ I laid
that trap was exactly what you deplore.

I had made a simple claim about my newsreader (of all things), and Alan
Baker repeated and ever increasingly viciously called that fact, a lie.

I didn't lay the trap for Alan Baker until he repeatedly claimed everything
I said about my newsreader was a "lie" (as if he has the brains to know?).

Alan then enlisted the help of other apologists, like Steve Scharf (who,
shockingly so, echoed his sentiments about the user agent header, which
simply proved my point that Steve Scharf is unbelievably ignorant also).

The point isn't that it's trivial for me to prove apologists are incredibly
ignorant; the point is that apologists are the ones calling everyone else a
liar.

Not me.
--
What Wilf appears to deplore is that apologists call all facts, lies.

Wilf

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May 14, 2020, 3:57:46 AM5/14/20
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I do take your point. It's just very wearying to plough through a thread
of interest and being obliged to cut through the claims and
counterclaims to find anything of real use!

Wilf

Wilf

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May 14, 2020, 4:02:31 AM5/14/20
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As I've said further up this thread, I do take your point. The problem
for a user who is neither a lover nor hater of Apple hand held products,
but who just uses them,is that it is almost impossible to find anything
of help in even the simplest of threads when it is probably buried in
voluminous claims and counterclaims. It makes this newsgroup all but
useless unless you are someone who has an axe to grind.

Wilf

For Wilf

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May 14, 2020, 10:24:23 AM5/14/20
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In response to what Wilf <wi...@replyto.newsgroup> wrote :

> As I've said further up this thread, I do take your point. The problem
> for a user who is neither a lover nor hater of Apple hand held products,
> but who just uses them,is that it is almost impossible to find anything
> of help in even the simplest of threads when it is probably buried in
> voluminous claims and counterclaims. It makes this newsgroup all but
> useless unless you are someone who has an axe to grind.

Hi Wilf,

Rest assured I'm extremely well educated & quite facultatively cognitive
o I _understand_ the dilemma you speak of, and have struggled within...

Also rest assured, I've _studied_ these strange apologists
o For years.

This problem you speak of _only_ exists with about a score of people...
o Those that are not apologists - don't exhibit the behavior you deplore

I believe there _is_ a solution to this problem that apologists exist...
o But we adults need to work together on that solution, do we not?

All we adults; not just you; not just me...
o All the remaining adults on this newsgroup, need to solve this problem.

At the end of this explanation, I'm going to ask for your help...
o And for the help of all _adults_ (if any) on this newsgroup.

But first, we have to understand the real problem...
o Because you can't solve the real problem by misunderstanding it.

The real problem is simply that the score of Apple Apologists exist.
o You deplore that they exist, and that I, as an adult, refute them.

In that, I take your point as it's wearisome to refute the apologists also.
o Yet, the real problem remains... so _how_ do we solve the real problem?

As noted prior, there are three categories of apologists, IMHO:
o Type I apologist: nospam is in a class of his own & is not listed below
o Type II apologists: All those listed below have no beneficial intent
o Type III apologists: These are simply ill informed & are not listed below

The real problem, IMHO, is that this score of Type II apologists exists:
o Alan Baker, Lewis, Jolly Roger, Your Name, Chris, Joerg Lorenz,
o John McWilliams, Savageduck, Elfin, Lloyd, Roctb, Hemidactylus,
o Snit, Tim Streater, BK-at-onramp.net, Barry Margolin, Alan Browne,
o Wade Garrett, Johan, joe, Elden, Davoud, Beedle, Andreas Rutishauser,
o Tony Cooper, Ken Blake, Wolffan, None, rescuba, Lloyd Parsons,
et al.

You must comprehend, Wilf, they almost _never_ post with helpful intent.

If they simply disappeared - this newsgroup would be healthy again, IMHO.
o Instantly.

Notice there are only a score of these deplorable people (socks excluded).
o Their weakness is the simplest of facts instantly DESTROY their claims.

Simply because they fabricate everything as an excuse for Apple behavior.
o Almost never are their fabricated claims not easily refuted with facts.

In simple vernacular, they're all clearly worthless pieces of shit...
o But I generally am more polite as I refer to them simply as "apologists".

They are the problem you deplore.
o All I'm doing is providing facts that refute their misinformation.

Yet, I do agree with your point that it's tiresome to deal with them.
a. It makes it miserable for adults to gain information, and,
b. The apologists will never learn anyway as they don't intend to learn.

Two facts I hope I've shown clear evidence for though, are:
A. I've never _once_ called them liars; I simply refute with fact; and,
B. My facts have _never_ even once ever been wrong ('cuz they're facts).

Yet, we _both_ deplore that the apologists exist for two reasons:
1. Apologists own completely imaginary belief systems (proven many times);
2. And, apologists _love_ to deflect the facts.

I've shown examples of this apologists' behavior, which abounds:
o If the topic is functionality, apologists fabricate it;
o If the topic is vulnerabilities, apologists blame Microsoft & Google;
o If the topic is camera quality, apologists claim the reviews are bribed.
etc.

I've often proven the apologists have no adult response to fact:
o *What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/veU8FwAjBQAJ>

And yet, they still exist.
o The Apple apologists are the real problem.

There are only a score of them though...
o So what do we do about this problem?

Wilf,
What do _you_ suggest, as an adult, the adults do about the real problem?
o For example, do you suggest I, as an adult, simply _ignore_ them?

What about the rest of the adults (if any) on this newsgroup, Wilf?
--
There are always solutions to all problems; but we must understand first.

For Wilf

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May 14, 2020, 11:06:38 AM5/14/20
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 08:57:45 +0100, Wilf wrote:

> I do take your point. It's just very wearying to plough through a thread
> of interest and being obliged to cut through the claims and
> counterclaims to find anything of real use!

Hi Wilf,

I'm going to give you a chance to propose a workable solution, OK?
o As one adult to another, OK?

*What do you suggest all adults do when the apologists do what they do?*

I think I have a potential solution to the problem you and I both abhor...
o But all the adults need to work together on solving this stated problem.

The problem, as I see it, is simply that apologists do what apologists do.
o *What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?*
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM/vk5Hfwi7AgAJ>

For example, we've the word "liar" is never used by me; only by apologists.
o And we've established facts I present have _never_ been materially wrong.

Yet, it's trivial to prove the opposite, right?
a. Apologists incessantly claim simple facts are "lies by liars", right?
b. Apologists often fabricate claims that have zero basis in facts, right?

And, I presume we've established quite clearly the apologist don't care.
o Apologists clearly don't care about facts... (they don't even read them!)
o Nor do these Apple apologists care that they claim all facts are lies.

IMHO, all the Apple apologists appear to want to do is...
a. Claim all facts they don't like are "lies by liars"
b. Fabricate functionality for Apple that simply does not exist...
etc.

Can we change the behavior of the Apple apologists?
o Probably not.

Can we change the behavior of the adults (if any) on this newsgroup?
o Certainly.

Wilf,
I'm going to give you a chance to propose a workable solution, OK?
o As one adult to another, OK?

*What do you suggest all adults do when the apologists do what they do?*
--
The solution to apologists is for all adults to work together on it.

Alan Baker

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May 14, 2020, 1:15:41 PM5/14/20
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I can't answer for anyone but myself, but I only call those who
consistently lie "liars".

:-)

Arlen Holder

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What's interesting is how people only see MARKETING
o Such that they believe the propaganda... sans a single fact.

The proof of this statement is that those who succumb to propaganda
o Can't even find a _single_ fact upon which their belief system is based.

Not even one.

Here are samples of fact which prove my point.
o Nobody yet has found a _single_ functionality on iOS not on Android.

Not even one.

I'm not afraid of facts:
o Its those whose belief systems are purely imaginary who are afraid.

Here are some of the facts...

o What functionality you do on iOS you wish you could do on Android?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/poG62SEefqk>

o That privacy & functionality I want for iOS I already have on Android:
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/IcOW9RI_Asg>

o Is there any software functionality in the new iPhone 11
that isn't already in an average 5-year old Android phone?
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/1D2Sgdlz1-I>

o How many functionalities do you perform, every day, on Android,
that are impossible on iOS [and vice versa]?
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qgcY3OFdwto/NTExBPAXBAAJ>
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The reason there will always be more functionality on Android is simply
that developers write what users want, and yet, Apple severely restricts
what developers can offer on the app store (and Apple restricts what
non-jailbroken users can get since it must be from that app store).

Alan Baker

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May 27, 2020, 9:54:59 PM5/27/20
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On 2020-05-26 2:21 p.m., Arlen Holder wrote:
> What's interesting is how people only see MARKETING
> o Such that they believe the propaganda... sans a single fact.
>
> The proof of this statement is that those who succumb to propaganda
> o Can't even find a _single_ fact upon which their belief system is based.
>
> Not even one.
>
> Here are samples of fact which prove my point.
> o Nobody yet has found a _single_ functionality on iOS not on Android.
>
> Not even one.
>
> I'm not afraid of facts:
> o Its those whose belief systems are purely imaginary who are afraid.
>
> Here are some of the facts...
>
> o What functionality you do on iOS you wish you could do on Android?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/poG62SEefqk>

That's not a fact, Arlen. It's a question and a link to a Usenet thread.

>
> o That privacy & functionality I want for iOS I already have on Android:
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/IcOW9RI_Asg>

That's not a fact.

>
> o Is there any software functionality in the new iPhone 11
> that isn't already in an average 5-year old Android phone?
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/1D2Sgdlz1-I>

Also not a fact.

>
> o How many functionalities do you perform, every day, on Android,
> that are impossible on iOS [and vice versa]?
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/qgcY3OFdwto/NTExBPAXBAAJ>

Also not a fact.
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