In response to what Wilf <wi...@replyto.newsgroup> wrote :
> As I've said further up this thread, I do take your point. The problem
> for a user who is neither a lover nor hater of Apple hand held products,
> but who just uses them,is that it is almost impossible to find anything
> of help in even the simplest of threads when it is probably buried in
> voluminous claims and counterclaims. It makes this newsgroup all but
> useless unless you are someone who has an axe to grind.
Hi Wilf,
Rest assured I'm extremely well educated & quite facultatively cognitive
o I _understand_ the dilemma you speak of, and have struggled within...
Also rest assured, I've _studied_ these strange apologists
o For years.
This problem you speak of _only_ exists with about a score of people...
o Those that are not apologists - don't exhibit the behavior you deplore
I believe there _is_ a solution to this problem that apologists exist...
o But we adults need to work together on that solution, do we not?
All we adults; not just you; not just me...
o All the remaining adults on this newsgroup, need to solve this problem.
At the end of this explanation, I'm going to ask for your help...
o And for the help of all _adults_ (if any) on this newsgroup.
But first, we have to understand the real problem...
o Because you can't solve the real problem by misunderstanding it.
The real problem is simply that the score of Apple Apologists exist.
o You deplore that they exist, and that I, as an adult, refute them.
In that, I take your point as it's wearisome to refute the apologists also.
o Yet, the real problem remains... so _how_ do we solve the real problem?
As noted prior, there are three categories of apologists, IMHO:
o Type I apologist: nospam is in a class of his own & is not listed below
o Type II apologists: All those listed below have no beneficial intent
o Type III apologists: These are simply ill informed & are not listed below
The real problem, IMHO, is that this score of Type II apologists exists:
o Alan Baker, Lewis, Jolly Roger, Your Name, Chris, Joerg Lorenz,
o John McWilliams, Savageduck, Elfin, Lloyd, Roctb, Hemidactylus,
o Snit, Tim Streater, BK-at-onramp.net, Barry Margolin, Alan Browne,
o Wade Garrett, Johan, joe, Elden, Davoud, Beedle, Andreas Rutishauser,
o Tony Cooper, Ken Blake, Wolffan, None, rescuba, Lloyd Parsons,
et al.
You must comprehend, Wilf, they almost _never_ post with helpful intent.
If they simply disappeared - this newsgroup would be healthy again, IMHO.
o Instantly.
Notice there are only a score of these deplorable people (socks excluded).
o Their weakness is the simplest of facts instantly DESTROY their claims.
Simply because they fabricate everything as an excuse for Apple behavior.
o Almost never are their fabricated claims not easily refuted with facts.
In simple vernacular, they're all clearly worthless pieces of shit...
o But I generally am more polite as I refer to them simply as "apologists".
They are the problem you deplore.
o All I'm doing is providing facts that refute their misinformation.
Yet, I do agree with your point that it's tiresome to deal with them.
a. It makes it miserable for adults to gain information, and,
b. The apologists will never learn anyway as they don't intend to learn.
Two facts I hope I've shown clear evidence for though, are:
A. I've never _once_ called them liars; I simply refute with fact; and,
B. My facts have _never_ even once ever been wrong ('cuz they're facts).
Yet, we _both_ deplore that the apologists exist for two reasons:
1. Apologists own completely imaginary belief systems (proven many times);
2. And, apologists _love_ to deflect the facts.
I've shown examples of this apologists' behavior, which abounds:
o If the topic is functionality, apologists fabricate it;
o If the topic is vulnerabilities, apologists blame Microsoft & Google;
o If the topic is camera quality, apologists claim the reviews are bribed.
etc.
I've often proven the apologists have no adult response to fact:
o *What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?*
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And yet, they still exist.
o The Apple apologists are the real problem.
There are only a score of them though...
o So what do we do about this problem?
Wilf,
What do _you_ suggest, as an adult, the adults do about the real problem?
o For example, do you suggest I, as an adult, simply _ignore_ them?
What about the rest of the adults (if any) on this newsgroup, Wilf?
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