Herb ID from Bangladesh SM055

[Sourav Mahmud]

Habit: Herb

Habitat ; Floodplain

Location: Sundarbans

[surajitkoley]

Flowers look like Hemigraphis hirta, but the plant is not.

Heads look like Hemigraphis dura, but leaves not; supposedly not to be found in that region.

This might be Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii. Unlike FBI, TPL combines them all! Also check -

1. https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/aechmanthera/aechmanthera-gossypina
   
2. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200021988
   
3. http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250096746
   

Regards

[Sourav Mahmud]

Thanks Surajit Ji

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Flowers look like Hemigraphis hirta, but the plant is not. Heads look like Hemigraphis dura, but leaves not; supposedly not to be found in that region. This might be Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii. Unlike FBI, TPL combines them all! Also check - https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/aechmanthera/aechmanthera-gossypina http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200021988 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250096746 Regards

Surajit

Thanks, Surajit ji.   Earlier post by Singh ji & others are at: Aechmanthera gossypina from Chakrata Mussoorie Road pl. validate & Arunachal flora-2   As per GRIN, Aechmanthera Nees is now syn. of Strobilanthes Blume   As per The Plant List Ver. 1.1, these are the details: Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J. R. I. Wood, Kew Bull. 64: 16. 2009. (Syn: Aechmanthera claudiae Bernardi; Aechmanthera gossypina (Wall.) Nees; Aechmanthera leiosperma C.B.Clarke; Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees; Aechmanthera tomentosa var. wallichii C.B.Clarke; Aechmanthera wallichii Nees [Illegitimate]; Aechmanthera wallichii var. gossypina (Wall.) Nees; Aechmanthera wallichii f. leuconeura Nees; Barleria blinii H.Lév. [Invalid]; Ruellia gossypina Wall.; Ruellia tomentosa Wall. (Unresolved); Strobilanthes blinii H.Lév.; Strobilanthes bodinieri H.Lév.; Strobilanthes cavaleriei H.Lév.); - from me

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A reply:

"Looks like Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J.R.I.Wood but flowers are rather small and location (Sundabans) improbable. I would have a look at Hemigraphis latebrosa as a possibility
 
John Wood"

 

Thanks a lot, Dr. Wood.

[surajit koley]

As I suggested the ID I had noted the distribution issue.

Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii had been reported from Chittagong (vide FBI and BP). The last few words in FBI go like - "The Chittagong example....... and is therefore AE. tomentosa var. Wallichii, or a new species."

On the other hand neither 'Bengal Plants' nor FBI informs that H. latebrosa Nees can be found in Bangladesh.

Of course Dr. Wood would know it better than anybody.

Regards

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Flowers look like Hemigraphis hirta, but the plant is not. Heads look like Hemigraphis dura, but leaves not; supposedly not to be found in that region. This might be Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii. Unlike FBI, TPL combines them all! Also check - https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/aechmanthera/aechmanthera-gossypina http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200021988 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250096746 Regards                                          Surajit

Thanks, Surajit ji.   Earlier post by Singh ji & others are at: Aechmanthera gossypina from Chakrata Mussoorie Road pl. validate & Arunachal flora-2   As per GRIN, Aechmanthera Nees is now syn. of Strobilanthes Blume   As per The Plant List Ver. 1.1, these are the details: Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J. R. I. Wood, Kew Bull. 64: 16. 2009. (Syn: Aechmanthera claudiae Bernardi; Aechmanthera gossypina (Wall.) Nees; Aechmanthera leiosperma C.B.Clarke; Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees; Aechmanthera tomentosa var. wallichii C.B.Clarke; Aechmanthera wallichii Nees [Illegitimate]; Aechmanthera wallichii var. gossypina (Wall.) Nees; Aechmanthera wallichii f. leuconeura Nees; Barleria blinii H.Lév. [Invalid]; Ruellia gossypina Wall.; Ruellia tomentosa Wall. (Unresolved); Strobilanthes blinii H.Lév.; Strobilanthes bodinieri H.Lév.; Strobilanthes cavaleriei H.Lév.); - from me

Looks like Strobilanthes tomentosa (Nees) J.R.I.Wood but flowers are rather small and location (Sundabans) improbable. I would have a look at Hemigraphis latebrosa as a possibility   John Wood

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As I suggested the ID I had noted the distribution issue. Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii had been reported from Chittagong (vide FBI and BP). The last few words in FBI go like - "The Chittagong example....... and is therefore AE. tomentos

As I suggested the ID I had noted the distribution issue.

Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii had been reported from Chittagong (vide FBI and BP). The last few words in FBI go like - "The Chittagong example....... and is therefore AE. tomentosa var. Wallichii, or a new species." On the other hand neither 'Bengal Plants' nor FBI informs that H. latebrosa Nees can be found in Bangladesh. Of course Dr. Wood would know it better than anybody. Regards

Surajit

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Habit: Herb

Habitat ; Floodplain

Location: Sundarbans

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[surajit koley]

Attached here the entry in FBI.

Thank you and regards

[J.M. Garg]

A reply:

"As far as I am aware Strobilanthes tomentosa always grows in the hills, thus the only locality it is certainly known from in Bangladesh is Chittagong. The alluvial plains of Bangladesh are not good Strobilanthes country but finding Hemigraphis latebrosa would not be unexpected even if there is no old record. I suppose Hemigraphis hirta is another possibility but it is not usually so robust.

John Wood"

 

Thanks, Dr. Wood.

[surajit koley]

Good morning

I thank you all. It has saved me from searching 150+ Strobilanthes described in FBI.

Regards

[Sourav Mahmud]

Dear All

Hemigraphis latebrosa  was recorded from Chittagong and Sylhet District

[surajit koley]

Thank you Sourav. I think I am wasting time flipping through the pages of outdated lit.

Regards

[Gurcharan Singh]

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Distributed as Strobilanthes pavala ?

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Herb ID from Bangladesh SM055 (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

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Distributed as Strobilanthes pavala ?

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Herb ID from Bangladesh SM055 (google.com)

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[surajit koley]

Since it has already been identified by Dr. Wood and Sourav ji confirmed its distribution in Bangladesh, why should it be anything else!

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Surajit ji,

I think more closer to images at Strobilanthes urens rather than those at Strobilanthes pavala

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Habit: Herb

Habitat ; Floodplain

Location: Sundarbans

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[surajit koley]

Garg Sir, you must have noticed that one of the synonyms of Strobilanthes urens is Hemigraphis dura

And in my first reply on 11-June-2014, I stated -

"Flowers look like Hemigraphis hirta, but the plant is not.

Heads look like Hemigraphis dura, but leaves not; supposedly not to be found in that region.

This might be Aechmanthera tomentosa Nees var. wallichii.. ......."

And, then you had two reply mails from Dr. Wood, one at https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nFgE384gJag/m/LBdEwaacO2oJ and another one at - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nFgE384gJag/m/Gi5Iw1EYOA0J 

Lastly, you received Sourav ji's response - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/nFgE384gJag/m/4zZN4PL6j5AJ

What more can I say!!!

Thank you.

With regards,

Surajit Koley

[Saroj Kasaju]

I could not the distribution of S. urens in Bangladesh in POWO, CoL and GBIF

but images from GBIF and FoI does not look like matching !

Strobilanthes urens (B.Heyne ex Roth) J.R.I.Wood

FoI

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[surajit koley]

This can be Hemigraphis hirta, as can be compared with the attached pictures. The species can achieve erect state if supported by underneath vegetation.

Thank you.

Best regards,

Surajit Koley