SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID

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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 6, 2017, 6:37:35 AM6/6/17
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Dear Members,

Location: Teesta, Kalimpong, India
Date: 24 May  2017
Altitude: 4000 ft.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 6, 2017, 9:25:33 AM6/6/17
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Leea? Or Vitaceae? 

Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 6, 2017, 12:02:25 PM6/6/17
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 15, 2017, 3:51:35 AM6/15/17
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng.   ???  or  Leea robusta   - from Saroj ji                                     

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J.M. Garg

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Jun 15, 2017, 7:55:32 AM6/15/17
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Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.

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It is Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng. for me.  

Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 15, 2017, 11:25:02 AM6/15/17
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Thank you Mr. Swamy !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jun 19, 2017, 2:02:52 AM6/19/17
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A reply:
"This should be Leea alata Edgew.
Kind regards,
Varun"

Thanks, Varun ji.
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 19, 2017, 12:43:36 PM6/19/17
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I could not decide. Waiting for final validation.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jun 29, 2017, 5:48:29 AM6/29/17
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng.   ???  or  Leea robusta   - from Saroj ji   

It is Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng. for me.- from Mahadeswara ji   

This should be Leea alata Edgew.
Kind regards,
Varun

I could not decide. Waiting for final validation.
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju 


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J.M. Garg

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Date: 6 July 2017 at 16:33
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Dear all,
I think the image is of Leea rubra.
J SARMA

Saroj Kasaju

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Jul 6, 2017, 11:08:37 AM7/6/17
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Again confusion! 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jul 6, 2017, 11:06:08 PM7/6/17
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You can decide on final I'd. 

J.M. Garg

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Jul 14, 2017, 7:17:10 AM7/14/17
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I found the keys between these two species at Forest Plants of Eastern India By Amal Bhusan Chaudhuri (1993).
As petioles are not winged, it can not be Leea alata. I also feel it is close to images at Leea guineense (syn. Leea coccinea Planch.)
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J.M. Garg

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May 16, 2021, 3:52:33 AM5/16/21
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As per 08-05-2021 : S-KOLEY : Leea diversity in India from Surajit ji:
"Saroj ji's upload from Kalimpong - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Qu7AqOcoHuk/m/iT4YyczCAQAJ is either L. rubra Bl. Ex Spreng or L. guineensis G. Don.
Unfortunately, the paper I am following doesn't provide description of both species. And I have no clear idea how to differentiate them without 'KEY-III" and stipule picture. Yet, I agree with the established id, as L. guineensis G. Don, because -
  1. inside of petal is creamy-yellow
  2. long acuminate tips of the leaflets and nerves
  3. apparently longer staminodial tube
Thank you."

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Saroj Kasaju

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May 16, 2021, 4:27:49 AM5/16/21
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I guess you are right Mr. Garg !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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May 17, 2021, 6:53:30 AM5/17/21
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As per Flora of India this should be Leea setuligera C. B. Clarke

Leea guineensis G. Don: staminodial tube 2-3mm long
L. rubra Spreng. ex Blume and L. setuligera C. B. Clarke: staminodial tube less than 2mm
L. setuligera C. B. Clarke: Flowers turn creamish yellow on maturity, leaf margins closely serrate and stiff bristles on the upper surface of the leaflets between each pair of the nerves (as in leaf photograph while zooming).

Kind regards,
Varun
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Saroj Kasaju

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May 17, 2021, 8:52:55 AM5/17/21
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Thank you Varun Ji !

Saroj Kasaju

Saroj Kasaju

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May 17, 2021, 8:54:31 AM5/17/21
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Dear Tabish,
 Forwarding  for inclusion in FoI.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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Subject: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID
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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM
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Dear Members,

Location: Teesta, Kalimpong, India
Date: 24 May  2017
Altitude: 4000 ft.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 7:10 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Leea? Or Vitaceae? 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:47 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng.   ???


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:35 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng.   ???  or  Leea robusta   - from Saroj ji                                     

--
With regards,
J.M.Garg

'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna'

Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia

For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group (largest in the world- around 2800 members & 2,65,000 messages on 31.3.17) or Efloraofindia website (with a species database of more than 12,000 species & 2,50,000 images).

The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.

Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'.



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Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 5:40 PM
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Thanks, Mahadeswara ji.

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Date: 15 June 2017 at 17:22
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It is Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng. for me.  
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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:09 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


Thank you Mr. Swamy !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 11:47 AM
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Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


A reply:
"This should be Leea alata Edgew.
Kind regards,
Varun"

Thanks, Varun ji.


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:28 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


I could not decide. Waiting for final validation.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 3:33 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>


Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng.   ???  or  Leea robusta   - from Saroj ji   

It is Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng. for me.- from Mahadeswara ji   

This should be Leea alata Edgew.
Kind regards,
Varun

I could not decide. Waiting for final validation.
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju 


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: 6 June 2017 at 16:07
Subject: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID
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Date: 6 July 2017 at 16:33
Subject: Re: SK546 06 JUN-2017:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


Dear all,
I think the image is of Leea rubra.
J SARMA


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 8:53 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, <jatind...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


Again confusion! 

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:51 AM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>, <jatind...@gmail.com>


You can decide on final I'd. 


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:01 PM

To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>

I found the keys between these two species at Forest Plants of Eastern India By Amal Bhusan Chaudhuri (1993).
As petioles are not winged, it can not be Leea alata. I also feel it is close to images at Leea guineense (syn. Leea coccinea Planch.)


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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, surajitkoley <surajitno...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


As per 08-05-2021 : S-KOLEY : Leea diversity in India from Surajit ji:
"Saroj ji's upload from Kalimpong - https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/Qu7AqOcoHuk/m/iT4YyczCAQAJ is either L. rubra Bl. Ex Spreng or L. guineensis G. Don.
Unfortunately, the paper I am following doesn't provide description of both species. And I have no clear idea how to differentiate them without 'KEY-III" and stipule picture. Yet, I agree with the established id, as L. guineensis G. Don, because -
  1. inside of petal is creamy-yellow
  2. long acuminate tips of the leaflets and nerves
  3. apparently longer staminodial tube
Thank you."

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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 at 15:17
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J.M.Garg


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 2:12 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, surajitkoley <surajitno...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


I guess you are right Mr. Garg !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:38 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, surajitkoley <surajitno...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


As per Flora of India this should be Leea setuligera C. B. Clarke

Leea guineensis G. Don: staminodial tube 2-3mm long
L. rubra Spreng. ex Blume and L. setuligera C. B. Clarke: staminodial tube less than 2mm
L. setuligera C. B. Clarke: Flowers turn creamish yellow on maturity, leaf margins closely serrate and stiff bristles on the upper surface of the leaflets between each pair of the nerves (as in leaf photograph while zooming).

Kind regards,
Varun
--
With regards,
J.M.Garg


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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:37 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Varun Sharma <varuns...@rediffmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, surajitkoley <surajitno...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>
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J.M. Garg

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May 17, 2021, 9:05:44 AM5/17/21
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Wait, Saroj ji,
Discussions are yet not over. 
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surajit koley

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May 17, 2021, 10:35:13 AM5/17/21
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A few words about Leea setuligera Clarke, copied below, from the paper I am following -
" Leaves 2 or 3-pinnate, leaflets numerous ..... (continued)
.... staminodial tube 1.5-1.8 mm. ....."
"Distribution - India (Concan, Asam), Thailand ..."

These days my eyes are getting really tired, maybe due to age, and ofcourse for looking at the screen of the computer and cellulars for hours.

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surajit

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surajit koley

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May 17, 2021, 10:37:57 AM5/17/21
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I guess you are right Mr. Garg Sir ji.
Do we have more than one Varun ji, in the forum?

Regards,
surajit

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May 17, 2021, 10:39:21 AM5/17/21
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Thanks, Surajit ji


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J.M. Garg

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May 17, 2021, 10:40:37 AM5/17/21
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Only one Varun, I am think.


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surajit koley

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May 17, 2021, 10:44:29 AM5/17/21
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Thank you, Sir, for the information.

Regards,
surajit

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Saroj Kasaju

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May 17, 2021, 12:04:36 PM5/17/21
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OK Mr. Garg ! By the way POWO showing distribution !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

surajit koley

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May 17, 2021, 12:28:55 PM5/17/21
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Distribution is not the problem area, Sir ji, distribution records depend upon reporting of the species from the area and it takes time to update the distribution list, I think.
Btw, POWO shows the "green area all over the India" but lists - Native to:
Assam, China South-Central, India, Thailand - http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:68363-1

But, again I say, distribution is not the concerned area. I would be no less happy if it turns out to be L. setuligera.
I am here not to identify a species.
I am here to learn what could be the id of a species,

Regards
surajit

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Tabish

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May 19, 2021, 2:16:38 AM5/19/21
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Looking at the long leaflets which are toothed only in the upper part, it looks like Leea alata Edgew. to me. Leea rubra Royle is a synonym. I hope people are not mixing it up with Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng., which is a different plant.
   Tabish

surajit koley

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May 19, 2021, 2:52:13 AM5/19/21
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Tabish ji,
It is not about Leea alata Edgew or L. rubra Bl. ex spreng. Please visit our (entire) root discussion at -https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/UfbKrMCvEBw/m/-o2eeygRAwAJ

Thank you
Regards
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May 19, 2021, 2:58:52 AM5/19/21
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Thanks Surajit, for pointing me to the discussion. I was unaware of it.
   Tabish

J.M. Garg

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May 27, 2021, 3:40:37 AM5/27/21
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Hi, Surajit ji,
Should we tentatively take it as Leea setuligera ?

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surajit koley

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May 27, 2021, 10:28:20 AM5/27/21
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I don't see any reason to change my suggestion, Sir ji

I don't have money to replace my keypad right now
Specially, key 'B', 'N' and 'Y' refuse to feel my touch!!!

J.M. Garg

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May 27, 2021, 10:34:23 AM5/27/21
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Thanks, Surajit ji


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Saroj Kasaju

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May 30, 2021, 1:19:57 PM5/30/21
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Dear Tabish, 
ID is changed !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:38 PM
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Wait, Saroj ji,
Discussions are yet not over. 
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Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:20 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, M Swamy <swamy...@gmail.com>


A few words about Leea setuligera Clarke, copied below, from the paper I am following -
" Leaves 2 or 3-pinnate, leaflets numerous ..... (continued)
.... staminodial tube 1.5-1.8 mm. ....."
"Distribution - India (Concan, Asam), Thailand ..."

These days my eyes are getting really tired, maybe due to age, and ofcourse for looking at the screen of the computer and cellulars for hours.

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surajit

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From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:22 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>, efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


I guess you are right Mr. Garg Sir ji.
Do we have more than one Varun ji, in the forum?

Regards,
surajit

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:24 PM
To: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
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Thanks, Surajit ji

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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:25 PM
To: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
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Only one Varun, I am think.

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From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 8:29 PM
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
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Thank you, Sir, for the information.

Regards,
surajit

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 9:49 PM
To: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>, efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


OK Mr. Garg ! By the way POWO showing distribution !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju



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From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:13 PM
To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>, efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Distribution is not the problem area, Sir ji, distribution records depend upon reporting of the species from the area and it takes time to update the distribution list, I think.
Btw, POWO shows the "green area all over the India" but lists - Native to:
Assam, China South-Central, India, Thailand - http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:68363-1

But, again I say, distribution is not the concerned area. I would be no less happy if it turns out to be L. setuligera.
I am here not to identify a species.
I am here to learn what could be the id of a species,

Regards
surajit

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From: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:01 PM
To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>


Looking at the long leaflets which are toothed only in the upper part, it looks like Leea alata Edgew. to me. Leea rubra Royle is a synonym. I hope people are not mixing it up with Leea rubra Blume ex Spreng., which is a different plant.
   Tabish
On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 9:58:55 PM UTC+5:30 surajitno...@gmail.com wrote:
Distribution is not the problem area, Sir ji, distribution records depend upon reporting of the species from the area and it takes time to update the distribution list, I think.
Btw, POWO shows the "green area all over the India" but lists - Native to:
Assam, China South-Central, India, Thailand - http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:68363-1

But, again I say, distribution is not the concerned area. I would be no less happy if it turns out to be L. setuligera.
I am here not to identify a species.
I am here to learn what could be the id of a species,

Regards
surajit

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From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:37 PM
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Tabish ji,
It is not about Leea alata Edgew or L. rubra Bl. ex spreng. Please visit our (entire) root discussion at -https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/UfbKrMCvEBw/m/-o2eeygRAwAJ

Thank you
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From: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:43 PM
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Thanks Surajit, for pointing me to the discussion. I was unaware of it.
   Tabish

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 12:22:13 PM UTC+5:30 surajitno...@gmail.com wrote:
Tabish ji,
It is not about Leea alata Edgew or L. rubra Bl. ex spreng. Please visit our (entire) root discussion at -https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/UfbKrMCvEBw/m/-o2eeygRAwAJ

Thank you
Regards
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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 27, 2021 at 1:25 PM
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Hi, Surajit ji,
Should we tentatively take it as Leea setuligera ?
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From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:13 PM
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I don't see any reason to change my suggestion, Sir ji

I don't have money to replace my keypad right now
Specially, key 'B', 'N' and 'Y' refuse to feel my touch!!!



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From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:19 PM
To: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
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J.M. Garg

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Jun 2, 2021, 11:55:17 AM6/2/21
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Thanks, Surajit ji.
I agree with you as per details at MS Aug.,2018/12 Leea aequata for Id/confirmation
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Saroj Kasaju

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Jun 2, 2021, 12:08:31 PM6/2/21
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So Leea aequata is confirmed?

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Jun 2, 2021, 12:23:30 PM6/2/21
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Hi, Surajit ji,
As per statement of Varun ji:
"As per Flora of India this should be Leea setuligera C. B. Clarke.

Leea guineensis G. Don: staminodial tube 2-3mm long
L. rubra Spreng. ex Blume and L. setuligera C. B. Clarke: staminodial tube less than 2mm
L. setuligera C. B. Clarke: Flowers turn creamish yellow on maturity, leaf margins closely serrate and stiff bristles on the upper surface of the leaflets between each pair of the nerves (as in leaf photograph while zooming)."

On examining the attached image, I clearly see setaceous (bristly) hairs between the nerves, which I do not find in Sawmliana ji's high resolution images in MS Aug.,2018/12 Leea aequata for Id/confirmation (identified as Leea guineensis G. Don)

So this should settle the id of this plant as Leea setuligera C. B. Clarke
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surajit koley

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Jun 2, 2021, 1:20:37 PM6/2/21
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Sir ji, please go ahead with the id L. setuligera.

If I am wrong the world, meaning persons accessing this site, would think I am a foolish person.
But, if I am right .....!!!

Thank you
With regards
surajit koley

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Question remains whether Leea setuligera C. B. Clarke, J. Bot. 19(220): 105–106 1881. (syn: Leea mastersii C.B.Clarke; Leea tenuifolia Craib);. is really reported from here as CoL does not give its distribution here and POWO skips West Bengal in between in the range.

surajit koley

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