Bypassing "Can't take screenshot due to security policy"

[Andy Burnelli]

How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?

In doing research on caricature programs I found it's a _lot_ more
convenient to screenshot the preliminary results, for two main reasons:
a. It's _much_ faster (like twice as fast) due to ad skippage
b. It's _much_ cleaner (no watermarks which are on the final product)

Yet some of the apps (not many, but definitely some) elicit the error:
"Can't take screenshot due to security policy"

This is, for example, one of those screenshot-blocking apps I tested:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila>

While I completely get what they're doing by blocking screenshots, my goal
on a phone is to be able to do what I want to do - not what the app wants.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Can%27t+take+screenshot+due+to+security+policy>

Googling for a non-root way around this limitation of some apps, I see many
of almost-the-same articles which simply "explain" why the error is there.
<https://www.technipages.com/cant-take-screenshot-due-to-security-policy-message-in-android>

Clearly this is a "policy set in the app" but the question I ask of people
here is how to work around that no-screenshots security policy. Any ideas?

How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?

[Andy Burns]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?

With a separate camera? Makes it pretty pointless to block the screenshot.

[Andy Burnelli]

Hi Andy,

I very much appreciate you're one of the few intelligent people on this ng.

Thanks for being brave in trying to answer what is, in effect, a difficult
problem set to resolve because the entire Android system is _designed_ to
prevent screenshots when the app sets a security policy to make it
difficult.

The problem came about as my interest in cartooning was piqued from another
thread someone posted in another newsgroup, where I wanted to see if I could
get professional results on Android - and that's quite easily possible!

As you know, whenever you solve problems, more problems crop up, where in
this case, the problem was first to find the best caricature creator.
*What is a good free adfree image (usually face) cartooning app?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/TgRrAjoTD9E>

Then, given the watermark, the problem had a secondary issue of editing:
*What is a good free adfree basic image editor*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/cTrsAsiNa4o>

And then, to get past the horrid advertisements, an added problem was
bypassing the app restrictions on taking screenshots of the non-watermarked
(but very professional looking) results.
*Bypassing "Can't take screenshot due to security policy"*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/Pmcqi4Mvuhw>

As always, with intelligence and a good search technique, I found solutions
to all the problems (I almost never fail except on iOS products), but I
don't presume to know more than anyone else about Android cartooning since
I've only tackled these problem sets for a few hours so far this week.

I've already solved the protected-screenshot problem using rather clever
tool that involves perfect mirroring of the Android phone on Windows, which
also has the benefit that it allows me to use my Windows keyboard and mouse
to completely control any Android phone from the desktop PC interface.
*scrcpy 1.23* <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>

Since I'm a well educated intelligent and kind-hearted soul who tries to
give back to the team that helps me, I already wrote up the tutorial (which
took hours to write and test, as you well know the documentation takes
longer than the actual experimentation does). I'll post that tutorial
separately from this thread to the Windows, Android, Linux, and macOS groups
(since the screen mirroring works on all PC platforms - everyone can benefit
from controlling their Android phone using their PC mouse & keyboard using
FOSS software).

Essentially you run scrcopy along with adb with the phone tethered over USB,
where the only hitch so far is that I can't save _directly_ to the Android
phone from Windows without setting up a WebDAV server on Android.
Print Screen directly to My PC\MyAndroidPhone\MyAndroidSDcard\.

So it's not perfect yet, but it's a clever solution that only goes to show
that it's possible to circumvent this screen-protection stuff which I had
never run into before since I don't do the banking app stuff that most
people do.

I only ran into this problem when I was using screenshots to make it vastly
quicker to save preliminary results in fancy ad-supported caricature apps.

If the apps weren't ad supported, I wouldn't need to screenshot, but by
snapping the screen, I can skip many of the obnoxious ads in these programs.

Of course, the best solution would be to find a free ad-free caricature
program with professional results, but in my tests this week, only the ad
supported cartooning programs had the best (in fact highly professional)
results (which is, after all, the goal).

In summary, I solved the problem, but if you or anyone else knows of a
better solution than the one I came up with today, I'd be grateful.
<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC
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[Alan]

In short, you want to steal the use of software.

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> I've already solved the protected-screenshot problem using rather clever
> tool that involves perfect mirroring of the Android phone on Windows, which
> also has the benefit that it allows me to use my Windows keyboard and mouse
> to completely control any Android phone from the desktop PC interface.
> *scrcpy 1.23* <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>

To continue to add value to every thread...

To mirror Android on Windows over USB:
C:\> adb devices
C:\> scrcpy

To mirror Android on Windows over Wi-Fi:
C:\> adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555
C:\> scrcpy
Where the "192.168.0.2" is the IP address of your phone on your LAN.

With WebDAV server running on Android, I can mount the entire Android phone
as a Windows drive letter for efficient file transfer over Wi-Fi or USB.

I've only been mirroring my Android phone on Windows for a few hours
but I really like some of the conveniences inherent in mirroring, such as:
1. The phone is 20 inches tall and 9 inches wide on my Windows monitor
2. The mouse and keyboard make typing with Android far more efficient
3. Screenshots are tremendously easier to manage when done in the PC
4. Movies are just as simple to make of your entire Android session
5. And, of course, you can screenshot even when apps won't allow it!

The only problem I have with Android mirroring over to Windows 10/11 while
on Wi-Fi is that the screen keeps falling asleep on the phone - whereas with
USB, there's an Android "Developer options" setting to keep the phone awake
while it's on the charger (which for you won't be a problem given that's
your exact situation).

See also:
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/introducing-microsoft-phone-link-and-link-to-windows-2e4bb4c0-f99a-4464-92a8-5264c7c39734>
"Our latest evolution brings a new name to unify the experience for
all our users. With that, we're introducing Microsoft Phone Link
as the PC app experience, and Link to Windows as our mobile app
for Android devices."
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/phone-link/9nmpj99vjbwv#activetab=pivot:overviewtab>
*Link to Windows* by Microsoft Corporation
free, ad free, req GSF, rated 3.9, 500M+ installs
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.appmanager>

This is a summary of what Microsoft says that app combination does:
a. Get instant access to everything you love on your phone from your PC.
b. Link your Android phone and PC to view and reply to text messages
c. Make and receive calls over Bluetooth
d. View your notifications
e. Share your favorite images between your phone and PC
f. Copy, edit, and even drag and drop photos without touching your phone
g. Wirelessly dragging and dropping your files from your phone to your PC
h. Wirelessly dragging and dropping your files from your PC to your phone
Note that the Microsoft phone link Android/Windows app combination does
_more_ than just the Windows adb/scrcpy command does.

If you know of a way to wake up the screen from Windows, let me know.

[Carlos E.R.]

That's what's people do, but obviously the results have much less quality.

Arlen is, obviously, stealing the photo, albeit the app lies, it is not
for security reasons, but for profit reasons :-D

The method of sending the phone screen to the computer is a curious one.
However, I don't know if a Windows screenshot will have the same pixel
count or much less than a proper phone screenshot. Maybe using a
mirroring Windows app that does screenshots itself.

Of course this is an Android security hole, allowing mirroring to the
computer of a protected screen.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Andy Burnelli]

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Of course this is an Android security hole, allowing mirroring to the
> computer of a protected screen.

It's not really an Android security hole in so much as everyone has known
since day 1 that you can't protect content on any screen that you can see.

As for 'stealing', I doubt you can back up that assertion.
They give you the photo for free, so what's there to steal?

The fact you think screenshotting is stealing tells me that your brain
doesn't work like an adult brain - it works like a brain of a small child.

All I'm doing is taking the photos before the watermark by screenshotting,
and, if I accept the photo with the watermark (after long advertisements),
I'm just removing that watermark after the fact.

There's no law against _either_ of those two actions, Carlos.

That your brain "thinks" there is makes me think you're very low-end Dunning
Kruger in that your brain doesn't work like a normal brain should work.

That you think _that_ is stealing shows how your brain is broken.
It's like you still think Santa Claus exists because of a picture you saw.

But maybe your brain is actually that of an adult?
Maybe you have a logical sensible reason for calling that stealing?

Do you?
I can believe someone with an IQ of 40 like Alan Baker would call that
stealing, but Alan knows less about law than a five year old, Carlos.

I am expecting you, what with your PhD and all that, to own a brain that can
justify your calling a screenshot "stealing" (by any stretch of the law).

I'd love to know how your brain works, Carlos, in that you can justify in
your own mind that removing the watermark is "stealing" to you?

Just like I can't understand the bible toting people when I ask them how old
do they think the earth is, or the people in the Costco gas line why they
are putting premium into a Honda Civic, I don't understand your brain.

Do you even understand your own brain?
That is a good question.

The only way I can understand you, Carlos, is to assume you are a child.
To a child who knows absolutely nothing, then they'd think it's stealing.

But not to an actual adult.
At least not one with anywhere near any IQ that is functional.

Pray tell Carlos, how is screenshotting a picture that they will give you
for free, somehow, stealing? Please explain how your logic works Carlos.

[sms]

On 4/17/2022 11:12 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2022-04-16 20:13, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>
>>> How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?
>>
>> With a separate camera?  Makes it pretty pointless to block the
>> screenshot.
>
> That's what's people do, but obviously the results have much less quality.
>
> Arlen is, obviously, stealing the photo, albeit the app lies, it is not
> for security reasons, but for profit reasons :-D

I don't know what he's trying to take a screenshot of, but there are
legitimate reasons to take screenshots even when you get the message
“Can’t take screenshot due to security policy.”

I ran into this with the Android app from my health care provider.

I wanted to take a screen shot of my membership card so I could store it
in Google Pay instead of having to open the provider's app to get to it.

The Android phone displayed a message "Can't take a screenshot due to
the security policy." I opened the provider's iPhone app and there was
no restriction, so I took the screenshot and emailed it to myself.

Either the iOS app developer forgot to put the same restriction on
screenshots into the iPhone app, or the iOS lacks that feature; Googling
it, I found "How do I restrict a screenshot on IOS? In fact, there is no
such way to prevent screenshot in iOS,"
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18680028/prevent-screen-capture-in-an-ios-app>.

So the way to bypass this security feature on Android is to use an
iPhone or iPad to take the screenshot, then send the screenshot to yourself.

[sms]

On 4/17/2022 11:12 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

LOL, you mean compared with iOS having no restrictions on screen shots?!

I've had the screenshot issue in "The Document"
<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features> for a while. It's one issue
that you can see as a pro or a con for either platform.

29i on page 7: "Screenshots are not restricted."
114a on page 48: "Screenshots are restricted."

Google has become very strict about Android security, to the point of it
being annoying when you're trying to do perfectly legitimate things, but
it's up to the app developer whether or not to use the functionality
that Google has enabled. The one time I ran into the screenshot issue I
was not trying to screenshot and save any copyrighted material. My
workaround was to use my iPhone for the screenshot.

---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------
✓ 34 iOS & iPhone Features Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had ✓
✓ 156 Android & Android Phone Features Which [many] iOS Users Wish
they Had ✓

<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>

✓ 66 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
Citations ✓

✓ 100% Fact Checked ✓
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[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

> I don't know what he's trying to take a screenshot of, but there are
> legitimate reasons to take screenshots even when you get the message
> "Can't take screenshot due to security policy."

Steve brings up good added value below on why he'd want a screenshot.
But can anyone here think of a single "illegal" snapping of a screenshot?

Assuming whatever itself is on your phone screen is, in and of itself, not
illegal in the USA, then I can't fathom a single "illegitimate" use of
simply saving what's _already_ legally on your phone.

Can you?

> I ran into this with the Android app from my health care provider.

Certainly there are developers who would rather you didn't screenshot what
they already presented on your screen, e.g., someone could send you a
snapchat image that "they" expect you to not be able to screenshot; but
nobody who knows anything about computers is ever under the illusion that
once the image is on your device, you can capture it exactly as it displays.

> I wanted to take a screen shot of my membership card so I could store it
> in Google Pay instead of having to open the provider's app to get to it.

Yup. This is a perfect use of it since the image itself that you want to
save a screenshot of isn't in and of itself an illegal image in the USA.

> The Android phone displayed a message "Can't take a screenshot due to
> the security policy." I opened the provider's iPhone app and there was
> no restriction, so I took the screenshot and emailed it to myself.

That's interesting because it implies the app maker did not set the security
policy on the iPhone but they set it on Android. I wonder if there's a
restriction on Apple's part or if that was just a developer choice.

As an aside, there are _other_ security policies which can be set, outside
the app, at least in Android; but I think we're dealing here with in-app
security policies. (Either way, once it's on your screen, you can save it.)

> Either the iOS app developer forgot to put the same restriction on
> screenshots into the iPhone app, or the iOS lacks that feature; Googling
> it, I found "How do I restrict a screenshot on IOS? In fact, there is no
> such way to prevent screenshot in iOS,"
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18680028/prevent-screen-capture-in-an-ios-app>.

Oh. Wow. That's interesting. Very interesting. Thanks for adding that value.
*iOS* in-app method to restrict screenshots:
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18680028/prevent-screen-capture-in-an-ios-app>
*Android* in-app method to restrict screenshots:
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6764568/prevent-screen-capture-in-android-apps>

> So the way to bypass this security feature on Android is to use an
> iPhone or iPad to take the screenshot, then send the screenshot to yourself.

You could mirror the iPhone & Android on the Windows PC at the same time.

Also, with WebDAV, you can mount the entire Android phone as a Windows drive
and then save a screenshot _directly_ to the Android phone's file system.

Hence, one obvious use model (with no intermediate step) could be:
a. Snap the screenshot from Windows of the iOS device's screen
b. Save _directly_ that screenshot from Windows to the Android file system

I opened a thread on the iPhone newsgroup yesterday on how to mirror the
iPhone/iPad on Windows; but true to the unique child-like overall nature of
most Apple newsgroups, only kindergarten responses resulted to date.
*How can you mirror your iPhone/iPad onto a Windows desktop monitor?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6Oc1eLcB7uM>

BTW, to add further value to Steve's point on sometimes needing screenshot,
on Android, the apps I used actually _saved_ a temporary cache of their
images, so the screenshotting isn't necessary (if you know where to look).

For example, I ran a Windows search to find the cached images located here:
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\PhotoRoom
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\PhotoLab
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\ToonApp
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\Voila
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\Pulse
etc.

For someone wishing to follow in our footsteps, these tidbits may help.

A useful tidbit is that you can set a "Developer option" in Android settings
to keep the phone awake when you're on USB but that doesn't exist for Wi-Fi
(AFAIK); yet, when on Wi-Fi you can wake a sleeping phone with a _right_
mouse click.

Also, there are "touchscreen" differences where my PC monitor isn't a touch
screen, where swiping up with a mouse seems easier than swiping down.

More troublesome, I haven't figured out yet how to do a "pinch" of two
fingers using just the mouse; if you know a trick for that, let me know!

(I wonder how it works with touchscreen monitor - which I don't have?)

As for the screenshots on Windows, what works well is the Irfanview freeware
"Capture" command which will snap any area of the PC screen or the
foreground window client area - which has a lot of options, one of which is
to name the result using an orderly timestamped naming convention, e.g.,
capture_$U(%d%m%Y_%H%M%S)_###

If you also mounted your entire Android phones as a Windows drive letter,
then the screenshot can immediately be sent via your default SMS/MMS app.

While I tested probably a score of apps, I noticed something peculiar last
night, which is that a server went down (saying it was overloaded), and yet,
_multiple_ apps (presumably from different outfits!) also went down for that
same half hour time period. From that, and other GUI & choice similarities,
I suspect many of them are from the same outfit and/or they're using the
same underlying engine.

Hence, I wouldn't recommend more than two or three overall since the
similarities are there (even the ads are the same).

The three most-oft used apps I've been settling on using are:

*ToonMe* cartoons from photos, by Linerock Investments LTD
Free, with ads, rated 4.4, 50M+ installs, requires GSF
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp>

*PhotoRoom* Studio Photo Editor, by Artizans of Photo Video BG Editor App
Free, with ads, rated 4.7, 10M+ installs, requires GSF
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.photoroom.app>

*Voila* AI Artist Cartoon Photo, by Wemagine.AI
Free, with ads, rated 4.6, 10M+ installs, requires GSF
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila>

Note the first two allow native screenshots, but the latter does not.

On Windows, these operations seem to be most useful, although the three
tools used are extremely powerful, especially in batch configurations.
1. adb & scrcpy <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>
2. Irfanview <https://www.irfanview.com/main_download_engl.htm>

To mirror Android on Windows over USB:
C:\> adb devices
C:\> scrcpy

To mirror Android on Windows over Wi-Fi:
C:\> adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555
C:\> scrcpy
Where the "192.168.0.2" is the IP address of your phone on your LAN.

To take a movie of the entire session:
C:\>
C:\> scrcpy --record file.mp4

To perfectly screenshot just the phone window on demand in Windows:
C:\> Irfanview
Irfanview:Options/Capture Screenshot > (o)Foreground window - Client area
File name: capture_$U(%Y%m%d_%H%M%S)_###
(Or you can automatically capture every half second or whatever)

I've only used this for a couple of hours, so more learning will happen.
As always, if you can add technical value to this, all would benefit.
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[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

>> Of course this is an Android security hole, allowing mirroring to the
>> computer of a protected screen.
>
> LOL, you mean compared with iOS having no restrictions on screen shots?!

I find it interesting that people like Carlos whose brains can't handle even
teh slightest bit of complexity, think that an image (that in and of itself
is legal) which is then legally presented to you on your screen can't
legally be saved.

There isn't anyone intelligent who hasn't known since the dawn of computers
that you can save any image that is presented to you on your screen.

What I want to learn is how the strange minds of people like Carlos works
such that they "think" the way they do (much like how the Dunning Kruger
lemon-juice bank robber though that disappearing ink would hide his face
from the cameras).

These strange people like Carlos (and Alan Baker, Snit, Chris, Joerg,
nospam, Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Browne, et. al) interest me because I've
never met people in the flesh that incredibly stupid in my entire life.

> I've had the screenshot issue in "The Document"
> <https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features> for a while. It's one issue
> that you can see as a pro or a con for either platform.

One thing not in that document yet is the mirroring capability.

Android can be mirror easily over USB & Wi-Fi on Windows for free.
All you need is a single zip file from GitHub to mirror Android on Windows.

I still haven't gotten an answer whether you can mirror iOS as easily
though, as the iOS thread asking this question instantly devolved into
kindergarten jokes (which is all the iOS groups seem to be able to do).

*How can you mirror your iPhone/iPad onto a Windows desktop monitor?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6Oc1eLcB7uM>

> 29i on page 7: "Screenshots are not restricted."
> 114a on page 48: "Screenshots are restricted."

This information in your document is useful for the many of us who use both
Android and iOS devices every day, which both Steve and I do.

> Google has become very strict about Android security, to the point of it
> being annoying when you're trying to do perfectly legitimate things, but
> it's up to the app developer whether or not to use the functionality
> that Google has enabled.

Bear in mind that security by obscurity only works on dumb people.
The one example is that you can screenshot _anything_ on Android. Period.

However, another example is a Windows search of my Android phone mounted
onto my Windows PC showed _where_ the temporary cache was of the images!
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\PhotoRoom\<strange long name>
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\PhotoLab\<strange long name>
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\ToonApp\<strange long name>
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\Voila\<strange long name>
This PC\Galaxy A32 5G\Phone\Pictures\Pulse\<strange long name>
etc.

When I opened the <strange long name> on Windows with my Android phone
mounted onto Windows, Irfanview renamed the <strange long name> to an
animated GIF in many instances (which is even better than a screenshot!).

So I never really needed to learn how to screenshot for my original goal!
(Yet, learning how easy mirroring was has its own advantages over time.)

> The one time I ran into the screenshot issue I
> was not trying to screenshot and save any copyrighted material. My
> workaround was to use my iPhone for the screenshot.

Steve - do you have _any_ inkling what the fair use doctrine says in
copyright law? (HINT: Most people are morons who can't understand the tenets
of fair use which allow up to the _entire_ collection, such as Google Books,
as long as _one_ or more of those fair-use tenets are respected).

Again, most people are morons who can't comprehend even these legal basics.
But given you're an EE, if you put your mind to it, you can understand it.
<https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tenets+fair+use+doctrine+copyright+law+usa>

For example, if anyone mentions copyright law again with respect to
screenshot'ing what is _already_ legally on your phone, I point them to...
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use>
<https://ogc.harvard.edu/pages/copyright-and-fair-use>
<https://guides.mtholyoke.edu/copyright/fair-use>
<https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html>
<https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/what-is-fair-use/>
<https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fair-use-rule-copyright-material-30100.html>
<https://district.maricopa.edu/legal/student-faculty-resources/ip/guidelines/fair-use>
etc.

All of which I've read and understood (unlike the morons like Carlos here).

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> 34 iOS & iPhone Features Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had
> 156 Android & Android Phone Features Which [many] iOS Users Wish
> they Had
>
> <https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>
>
> 66 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
> Citations
>
> 100% Fact Checked

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[Carlos E.R.]

On 2022-04-18 15:57, sms wrote:
> On 4/17/2022 11:12 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2022-04-16 20:13, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?
>>>
>>> With a separate camera?  Makes it pretty pointless to block the
>>> screenshot.
>>
>> That's what's people do, but obviously the results have much less
>> quality.
>>
>> Arlen is, obviously, stealing the photo, albeit the app lies, it is
>> not for security reasons, but for profit reasons :-D
>
> I don't know what he's trying to take a screenshot of, but there are
> legitimate reasons to take screenshots even when you get the message
> “Can’t take screenshot due to security policy.”
>
> I ran into this with the Android app from my health care provider.
>
> I wanted to take a screen shot of my membership card so I could store it
> in Google Pay instead of having to open the provider's app to get to it.
>
> The Android phone displayed a message "Can't take a screenshot due to
> the security policy." I opened the provider's iPhone app and there was
> no restriction, so I took the screenshot and emailed it to myself.

Well, obviously your health care provider considers you are not entitled
to make a photo of your membership card. You think you are, but they
don't. And they are the owners, not you.

I don't know the context of your health card system, but I can think of
the Spanish ID cards. A photo of one such card is enough to, for
instance, open an account at an online only bank, and use that account
for frauds. When the police investigates, they'll seek the ID card
owner, who will be in trouble, because someone stole a photo of it.

Of course, I hate restrictions and will find ways to bypass them when I
want :-P

>
> Either the iOS app developer forgot to put the same restriction on
> screenshots into the iPhone app, or the iOS lacks that feature; Googling
> it, I found "How do I restrict a screenshot on IOS? In fact, there is no
> such way to prevent screenshot in iOS,"
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18680028/prevent-screen-capture-in-an-ios-app>.
>
>
> So the way to bypass this security feature on Android is to use an
> iPhone or iPad to take the screenshot, then send the screenshot to
> yourself.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2022-04-18 19:22, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>>> Of course this is an Android security hole, allowing mirroring to the
>>> computer of a protected screen.
>>
>> LOL, you mean compared with iOS having no restrictions on screen shots?!
>
> I find it interesting that people like Carlos whose brains can't handle
> even
> teh slightest bit of complexity,

Arlen, I did not insult you.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

[nospam]

In article <7021ji-...@Telcontar.valinor>, Carlos E.R.

perhaps you should.

[sms]

On 4/18/2022 2:30 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

<snip>

> Well, obviously your health care provider considers you are not entitled
> to make a photo of your membership card.

Well at least not if you're an Android user! If you're an iPhone user
then no problem since iOS lacks the capability to prevent screenshots.

In the U.S., the membership card doesn't do you any good without a
matching government ID and of course you can't get to the card inside
the mobile wallet without first unlocking the device.

It's just a matter of convenience to have all your cards in one place in
Google Pay or the Apple Wallet. Other than this one screenshot issue
it's actually easier to do this in Android. See #133a on page 58 of the
document <https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>, "Ability to add any
card to Digital Wallet for Free."

---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------
✓ 34 iOS & iPhone Features Which [many] Android Users Wish they Had ✓

✓ 156 Android & Android Phone Features Which [many] iOS Users Wish
they Had ✓

<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features>

✓ 66 Pages of Extensively Referenced Information with Hundreds of
Citations ✓

✓ 100% Fact Checked ✓
---------------------------------------•-----------------------------------------

[nospam]

In article <t3knah$k6h$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> > Well, obviously your health care provider considers you are not entitled
> > to make a photo of your membership card.
>
> Well at least not if you're an Android user! If you're an iPhone user
> then no problem since iOS lacks the capability to prevent screenshots.

although screenshots can't be blocked, it can be detected and the image
deleted, which is the same net effect.

another option is an app can offer a alternate image, which is what
some apps do if there is private data being displayed, such as the
developer's logo, or for lazy developers, an all white or black image.

> In the U.S., the membership card doesn't do you any good without a
> matching government ID and of course you can't get to the card inside
> the mobile wallet without first unlocking the device.

that is false.

an iphone can show wallet cards on the lock screen *without* unlocking
it if the user enables that.

cards that do not require authentication, such as membership cards, do
not require any further action.

cards used for payment will require authentication, which is only for
the payment itself and not for unlocking the device.

it helps to have used an iphone before making such comments.

> It's just a matter of convenience to have all your cards in one place in
> Google Pay or the Apple Wallet. Other than this one screenshot issue
> it's actually easier to do this in Android.

actually, it isn't.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Well at least not if you're an Android user! If you're an iPhone user
>> then no problem since iOS lacks the capability to prevent screenshots.
>
> although screenshots can't be blocked, it can be detected and the image
> deleted, which is the same net effect.

What you can do in iOS depends not on the laws, but on the iOS version:

*How to Disable Screenshots and Recording in iOS Apps*
<https://hackernoon.com/how-to-disable-screenshots-and-recording-in-ios-apps-8l2e3tmb>

How to Prevent Screen Capture
a. In iOS 11 and above
b. Listen to notification userDidTakeScreenshotNotification
c. Then either kill the app or send the user a warning

How to Prevent Screen Recording
a. To check if a screen is getting captured/recording
b. Check the isCaptured property on UIScreen
c. Or periodically call the method isRecording

> another option is an app can offer a alternate image, which is what
> some apps do if there is private data being displayed, such as the
> developer's logo, or for lazy developers, an all white or black image.

Note the existence of this iOS "ScreenShieldKit" software technology.

<https://screenshieldkit.com/> [Supports iOS 10, 11, 12, 13 & 14]
"ScreenShieldKit technology prevents screenshots of the sensitive
content in your iOS app."

*Screenshot*
Protect against a user taking a screenshot using the Top/Side
+ Home/Volume up buttons on the device.

*Screen recording*
Protect against on-device screen recordings of your app.

*QuickTime recording*
Protect against recording a video of the screen from
QuickTime Movie Recording.

*Screen mirroring*
Protect against attempts to use AirPlay Screen Mirroring
to copy sensitive content.

*Xcode screenshot*
Protect against screenshots taken from Xcode by developers using their Mac.

*App switcher*
Protect against screenshots taken from the app switcher,
when your app isn't in the foreground.

>> In the U.S., the membership card doesn't do you any good without a
>> matching government ID and of course you can't get to the card inside
>> the mobile wallet without first unlocking the device.
>
> that is false.
>
> an iphone can show wallet cards on the lock screen *without* unlocking
> it if the user enables that.
>
> cards that do not require authentication, such as membership cards, do
> not require any further action.
>
> cards used for payment will require authentication, which is only for
> the payment itself and not for unlocking the device.
>
> it helps to have used an iphone before making such comments.

This is a recent article on the subject of preventing screen capture on iOS:
*How do I restrict a screenshot on iOS?*
<https://quick-adviser.com/how-do-i-restrict-a-screenshot-on-ios/>

>> It's just a matter of convenience to have all your cards in one place in
>> Google Pay or the Apple Wallet. Other than this one screenshot issue
>> it's actually easier to do this in Android.
>
> actually, it isn't.

People who don't "just give up" can always find a way to record the screen.

I easily bypassed the Android security policy preventing screenshots simply
by mirroring my Android phone onto Windows using a free Windows executable.

To mirror Android on Windows over USB:
C:\> adb devices
C:\> scrcpy

Both commands are in this zip file <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>

To mirror Android on Windows over Wi-Fi:
C:\> adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555
C:\> scrcpy
Where the "192.168.0.2" is the IP address of your phone on your LAN.

To take a movie of the entire session (on either USB or over Wi-Fi):

C:\> scrcpy --record file.mp4

To perfectly screenshot just the phone window on demand in Windows:
C:\> Irfanview
Irfanview:Options/Capture Screenshot > (o)Foreground window - Client area
File name: capture_$U(%Y%m%d_%H%M%S)_###
(Or you can automatically capture every half second or whatever)

I asked the same question of screenshot mirroring on the child-like Apple
newsgroup that I had asked on both the Android & Windows adult OS newsgroups
but all that resulted kindergarten responses typical of Apple newsgroups.
*Can you mirror your iPhone/iPad onto your Windows PC*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6Oc1eLcB7uM>

I don't know yet as I haven't tried, but I suspect the reason the iOS users
turned into instant children is perhaps the functionality simply doesn't
exist for the iOS users (and that's what they _hate_ most about Apple).
--
The job of a Usenet post is to add useful value each time we communicate.

[nospam]

In article <t3l77n$5fc$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli

<sp...@nospam.com> wrote:

> > another option is an app can offer a alternate image, which is what
> > some apps do if there is private data being displayed, such as the
> > developer's logo, or for lazy developers, an all white or black image.
>
> Note the existence of this iOS "ScreenShieldKit" software technology.

i'm familiar with that sdk and was not referring to it. it's hokey and
best avoided.

> > it helps to have used an iphone before making such comments.
>
> This is a recent article on the subject of preventing screen capture on iOS:

it helps to understand ios app development before blindly searching on
keywords, hoping to find something.

knowing where to look, namely apple's developer site among other
resources, reveals that it *is* possible to block screenshots on ios
without needing a third party sdk or special casing it, although it's
global, not per-app.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Note the existence of this iOS "ScreenShieldKit" software technology.
>
> i'm familiar with that sdk and was not referring to it. it's hokey and
> best avoided.

You always amaze me that you're the only iKook who actually knows anything
about iOS (all the other iKooks know even less than I do about iOS).

What was interesting is that the "ScreenShieldKit" purported to detect the
use of Apple-specific screen mirroring techniques such as "AirPlay" &
"Xcode" on Apple-specific products such as the mac; (but they don't mention
the FOSS type I'm using for Android from GitHub and running on Windows).

The main question is whether there is a FOSS solution for screen mirroring
for my iOS devices onto my Windows computer.

I asked that question but the only responses were kindergarten ones
(which are typical childish responses always found in the Apple newsgroups).
*Can you mirror your iPhone/iPad onto your Windows PC?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6Oc1eLcB7uM>

I also asked on the adult PC newsgroup, and that garnered adult responses:
*How do you mirror your Android phone onto your Windows PC?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/eMYBmpq2H50>

Note it's always only the Apple OS newsgroups which are almost completely
filled with little children who _hate_ any questions about functionality.

>>> it helps to have used an iphone before making such comments.
>>
>> This is a recent article on the subject of preventing screen capture on iOS:
>
> it helps to understand ios app development before blindly searching on
> keywords, hoping to find something.

All I care about at the moment is to find a FOSS tool that mirrors my iPad
onto my Windows computer.

Do you know anything about that?

> knowing where to look, namely apple's developer site among other
> resources, reveals that it *is* possible to block screenshots on ios
> without needing a third party sdk or special casing it, although it's
> global, not per-app.

What do you know about how to mirror your iOS device onto a Windows PC?
--
There are two types of people on Usenet, only one of which is helpful.

[Andy Burnelli]

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I did not insult you.

OK. I'll accept that. I'm not even going to look at your previous response
because we've all been on Usenet for decades. It's water under the bridge.

All I care about on the Android & iOS newsgroups are three things:
1. Learning from others
2. Teaching others
3. Showing that the iKooks are utter morons who are always full of shit

The latter is because I despise cruel despicable unprepossessing people.
a. As long as you teach me or learn from me, I'll respect you.
b. And as long as you don't act like the iKooks do, I'll respect you.

Much like these commands are simple mirrors of what's on the Android phone,
I'm a simple mirror of your intent.

Hence I openly apologize to you if I errantly thought you had claimed I was
"stealing" an image which, let's be clear, is provided for free by the app.
--
The difference between me and the iKooks is that I act like an adult should.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

> I did not insult you.
>
> perhaps you should.

It's impossible to insult me but I will defend against any insults save for
those from the 40-IQ morons like Snit, Alan Baker, Your Name, Haemactylus,
Jolly Roger, Wilf, Rod Speed, Joerg, Lewis, et. al.

Carlos has, at times, acted much like an adult should, in that, for example,
he read (and understood!) the cites I provided on Covid, and he even
provided a valid cite of his own regarding a Singapore study - which is
something most of you iKooks don't have the capacity to perform.

You are different from the other iKooks as your IQ actually approaches
normal (it's below normal - probably around 80 - but it's still double that
of the other iKooks) as you _can_ process details when they are details in
support of Apple products.

The funny thing is that you always support Apple bullshit, no matter what.
It's as if your brain is fed directly from the Apple web site what to think.

You don't have the capacity of independent thought processes outside Apple.
But what's more indicative of your low IQ is that all your excuses are that
of a kindergarten child in that they're not even consistent.

You only have a half dozen responses to fact that you don't like about
Apple. The first is to simply deny the fact. When that doesn't work, you
follow a predictable cavalcade of excuses including you claim that the
functionality exists when it doesn't. And you'll claim that Apple has no
free will. And you'll claim that Google or Samsung or Microsoft made Apple
remove all the functionality that Apple removes.

You'll actually claim that "battery chemistry" that is specific only to
Apple is what caused the throttling PR disaster - where the funny thing is
that people like you actually _believe_ Apple has a special battery
chemistry that only operates on certain iPhones and even then, only with
certain iOS versions on those iPhones.

That you actually _believe_ that stuff - shows your IQ can't be even normal,
since any normal person would realize instantly that Apple boldly lied.

You'll also end up resorting to ad hominem attacks at the very end, even
resorting to kindergarten tricks like "ftfy", which is a clear sign of a
rather low IQ because you have no _adult_ defense to facts.

Yet... after proving you are a child with a rather low IQ, the funny thing
that differentiates you from most of the other iKooks is that you _can_
process technical detail at the level that Steve can, and perhaps even Alan
Browne or Chris can process facts _almost_ at the level that you can.

That's what's so _different_ about you, nospam.
You're _not_ exactly like the rest of the iKooks.

You're _different_ (in a good way).
You do have the capacity of adult thought processes - but - only when those
adult thought processes _benefit_ your concept of what Apple is and does.

It's almost as if you're paid by Apple to defend them on Usenet, nospam.
(Much like it's as if Steve is paid by Verizon to shill them on Usenet.)

The rest of the iKooks can't process details, but you and Alan Browne and
maybe Chris, can process details at the level of a high school kid - which
isn't bad for an iKook (the rest are at the kindergarten level).

I find it interesting that because you, nospam, can't figure out how to do
something, you often say it's _illegal_ such as you do with automatic call
recording.

You did the same with jailbreaking, claiming, years ago, it was copyright
infringement (although in a way, it does apply under US copyright law).

You did it with torrenting also, where I proved that there are _zero_
successful US court cases where the defendant challenged the charges, that
the defendant has ever lost. (You and I discussed, years ago, that there was
one "Malibu" set of Los Angeles cases where the lawyers were eventually
disbarred since they were actually purposefully seeding the movies that they
then brought lawsuits against the defendents for torrenting, as I recall.)

As for copyright, most people are stupid such that they can't handle the
complexity of basic "fair use" copyright law as it applies in the USA.

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> If you know of a way to wake up the screen from Windows, let me know.

UPDATE...

This scrcpy is kind of like ffmpeg or wget or Irfanview, where everything
you might want has already been thought of and supplied in the options! :)

The README shows how to do everything that I was asking about
a. Pinch to zoom with a mouse
b. Keep phone awake
c. Copy/paste between Android & Windows (both ways)
etc.
<https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy#readme>

There is one other problem which is adb is a bit flaky on my network
(probably because my network is hardened to not allow re-connects).

Luckily there is a solution which is summarized by this sequence below:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37267335/android-studio-wireless-adb-error-10061

When you get the error while trying Wi-Fi connections:

C:\> adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555

adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555 cannot connect to 192.168.0.2:5555:
No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. (10061)

1. Connect the phone to USB
2. Check that the phone is also connected to your Wi-Fi network
Ping your gateway from the PC or from Termux on the phone if necessary.
3. adb kill-server
4. adb tcpip 5555
5. Disconnect the phone from the USB cable any time after that command
6. adb connect 192.168.0.2 (you can also use adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555)
8. adb devices
9. scrcpy
scrcpy --tcpip
scrcpy --tcpip=192.168.0.2:5555
scrcpy --always-on-top
scrcpy --always-on-top --disable-screensaver --stay-awake
etc.

When you are done with your adb session:
10. adb disconnect

See also: <https://appuals.com/no-connection-could-be-made-adb-error-10061/>
--

[nospam]

In article <t3lf6g$cn8$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli

<sp...@nospam.com> wrote:

> All I care about at the moment is to find a FOSS tool that mirrors my iPad
> onto my Windows computer.
>
> Do you know anything about that?

yes i do.

the question you meant to ask is if i'm interested in telling you what
i know about it, and the answer to that is a resounding no.

it should be somewhat entertaining to watch you flail about as you
usually do, likely ending up with the most convoluted and insane
solution possible to do something that's actually quite simple, then
whining about how it's all apple's fault.

[NY]

"nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:190420220824195060%nos...@nospam.invalid...

If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you just
tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I know the
answer - but I'm not going to tell you".

The spirit of news groups is a community of people who actually *want* to
help each other. There is no place for people like you who sit on the
sidelines, being smug, and not passing on their knowledge or experiences. I
worked for a manager like that who wouldn't pass on any of his knowledge,
even if it benefited his company (the company was owned by two partners with
several employees). He spent a lot of time wandering round the office,
looking over people's shoulders, muttering "yes, that's easy" or "it's in
one of those books over there". But he wouldn't pass on any of his knowledge
and called everyone "incompetent" or "clueless" because they weren't as
knowledgeable as him.

[nospam]

In article <t3mb9a$kbv$1...@dont-email.me>, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> > In article <t3lf6g$cn8$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
> > <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> All I care about at the moment is to find a FOSS tool that mirrors my
> >> iPad onto my Windows computer.
> >>
> >> Do you know anything about that?
> >
> > yes i do.
> >
> > the question you meant to ask is if i'm interested in telling you what
> > i know about it, and the answer to that is a resounding no.
> >
> > it should be somewhat entertaining to watch you flail about as you
> > usually do, likely ending up with the most convoluted and insane
> > solution possible to do something that's actually quite simple, then
> > whining about how it's all apple's fault.
>
> If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you just
> tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I know the
> answer - but I'm not going to tell you".

because it's 'arlen' asking, who doesn't actually want an answer.

he will reject anything anyone suggests and then rant about how it
doesn't work, despite it doing exactly what he asked for, mostly
because he doesn't know what he's doing, along with the rest of his
usual idiotic bullshit rants.

btdt.

[sms]

On 4/19/2022 5:51 AM, NY wrote:

<snip>

> If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you just
> tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I know
> the answer - but I'm not going to tell you".

Notice the "FOSS" qualifier in "Andy Burnelli's" request.

There are non-FOSS solutions that are not very expensive, i.e.
Mirroring360 which is $11.99 per receiving computer. That sounds cheap
until you realize that you probably are going to want to mirror your
screen to multiple computers and that you might not even have the
ability to install this software on the computer that you want to mirror to.

Personally I have not seen a FOSS solution to mirror an iPhone screen to
a Windows PC, and I've looked for one in the past. There are free trials
of some of the paid solutions. It hasn't been issue for me since I have
an Android phone that I can use when I need to do this.

There's an article about this issue here:
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/mirror-your-iphone-screen-on-a-computer>.

I also have this in "The Document"
<https://tinyurl.com/iOS-Android-Features> as #157a on page 66.

157a. Screen mirroring to Windows PCs. You can mirror your Android
phone’s screen to your Windows PC, for free, using Microsoft's Phone
Link App (see
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/your-phone/9nmpj99vjbwv>). For the
iPhone and iPad, it’s possible to do screen mirroring to a Windows PC
but it isn’t free, i.e. Mirroring360 which is $11.99 per receiving
computer. There's an article about this here:
<https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/mirror-your-iphone-screen-on-a-computer>.
There are free trials of some of the paid solutions. ✓

But if there's a FOSS solution for mirroring the iPhone and/or iPad to a
Windows PC, that nospam knows about, I'd of course include it. It's
typical behavior of nospam to insist that he knows an answer to
someone's question but to play these kinds of games.

[Alan]

On 2022-04-19 8:21 a.m., sms wrote:
> On 4/19/2022 5:51 AM, NY wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you
>> just tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I
>> know the answer - but I'm not going to tell you".
>
> Notice the "FOSS" qualifier in "Andy Burnelli's" request.

That's his "no true Scotsman"...

[Jolly Roger]

On 2022-04-19, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> "nospam" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:190420220824195060%nos...@nospam.invalid...
>> In article <t3lf6g$cn8$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
>> <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All I care about at the moment is to find a FOSS tool that mirrors
>>> my iPad onto my Windows computer.
>>>
>>> Do you know anything about that?
>>
>> yes i do.
>>
>> the question you meant to ask is if i'm interested in telling you
>> what i know about it, and the answer to that is a resounding no.
>>
>> it should be somewhat entertaining to watch you flail about as you
>> usually do, likely ending up with the most convoluted and insane
>> solution possible to do something that's actually quite simple, then
>> whining about how it's all apple's fault.
>
> If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you
> just tell people the answer

You must be new here. The person "asking" for this information is
trolling. He spends every hour of every day trolling the Apple news
groups under various nyms and doesn't actually want or deserve anyone's
help with anything.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[nospam]

In article <t3mk2c$qd5$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> Notice the "FOSS" qualifier in "Andy Burnelli's" request.

thereby setting the stage for his rant, and apparently yours as well.

> There are non-FOSS solutions that are not very expensive, i.e.
> Mirroring360 which is $11.99 per receiving computer. That sounds cheap
> until you realize that you probably are going to want to mirror your
> screen to multiple computers and that you might not even have the
> ability to install this software on the computer that you want to mirror to.

there are also various free solutions.

> Personally I have not seen a FOSS solution to mirror an iPhone screen to
> a Windows PC, and I've looked for one in the past.

bullshit you've searched.

there are *several* free options for mirroring an iphone to windows,
which are *easily* found in a search.

in fact, did another search just now and found a few new ones.

the method is not proprietary and anyone can write such a utility
(assuming they're not clueless like some people here).

it also looks like you are using 'foss', as your troll-buddy 'arlen',
aka andy burnelli does, to be able to reject any suggestion made.

>
> There's an article about this issue here:
> <https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/mirror-your-iphone-screen-on-a-computer>.

an incomplete article, which looks like a puff piece for the software
they are suggesting.

> I also have this in "The Document"

yet another thing about it that's incorrect.


> For the
> iPhone and iPad, itıs possible to do screen mirroring to a Windows PC
> but it isnıt free

wrong. it is possible to do that *for* *free*.

you're not interested in learning how because it doesn't fit your
narrative.

>
> But if there's a FOSS solution for mirroring the iPhone and/or iPad to a
> Windows PC, that nospam knows about, I'd of course include it. It's
> typical behavior of nospam to insist that he knows an answer to
> someone's question but to play these kinds of games.

the only games are yours.

you know quite well you won't include anything i say because i
consistently show you to be totally wrong for nearly everything in that
'document' (and other topics too).

you also won't include anything several other people say which also
show you to be wrong.

the most bizarre one is your ridiculous claim that face id won't work
in the dark, when that's actually where it works the best, for reasons
that should be obvious.

just yesterday you claimed that accessing apple wallet requires
unlocking the phone. it does not.

so much of what you say is wrong. just about all of it, in fact.

it would help if you actually used an iphone before creating a
'document' about it. at least then it might be somewhat accurate rather
than a cesspool of easily refuted propaganda bullshit.

[Andy Burnelli]

sms wrote:

> Notice the "FOSS" qualifier in "Andy Burnelli's" request.

Steve,

You know _all_ my solutions, for decades, are FOSS solutions.
So that's not a new qualifier at all since all my tutorials are FOSS.

In fact, you also know we _already_ have an _Android_ FOSS solution.
<https://i.postimg.cc/63jvT33r/linktopc01.jpg>

As far as I know, that FOSS solution has _never_ been covered in either the
Windows or the Android newsgroup before - so it's _new_ information (AFAIK).

That's more value in one thread than the entirety of posts by the iKooks in
the history of Usenet, Steve, if I do say so myself.

All my solutions are FOSS.

So don't make it sound as if being FOSS is a "special" requirement.
The reason for FOSS is that _everyone_ can benefit instantly.

I'm a good hearted intelligent and helpful person who is writing a tutorial
(which you know from the Android & Windows newsgroup discussions) on how
_anyone_ can use a FOSS solution to mirror their Android phone on Windows.

What's missing is the section about iOS doing the same thing.

> Personally I have not seen a FOSS solution to mirror an iPhone screen to
> a Windows PC, and I've looked for one in the past. There are free trials
> of some of the paid solutions. It hasn't been issue for me since I have
> an Android phone that I can use when I need to do this.

I looked before I asked. You know I always do that.
If I ask for it, then it's not obvious whether it can be found for iOS.

But maybe nospam knows what he "claims" to know. (heh heh heh)

> But if there's a FOSS solution for mirroring the iPhone and/or iPad to a
> Windows PC, that nospam knows about, I'd of course include it. It's
> typical behavior of nospam to insist that he knows an answer to
> someone's question but to play these kinds of games.

Steve,
You _know_ I write general-use tutorials always using FOSS software; and you
know I asked the _same_ question on the adult operating system newsgroups -
where you know that the response only on the iOS newsgroups devolves to
kindergarten responses.

The only known iOS solutions so far are these apps, none of which are FOSS,
but _one_ of which will do the job if people don't mind the nagging prompts.

https://www.mirroring360.com
https://www.airserver.com/buy
https://www.airsquirrels.com/reflector
https://www.lonelyscreen.com/download.html

As always, I am on the phone Usenet newsgroups to both learn from other
people and to impart knowledge on a vast number of others (often via
step-by-step tutorials which always use FOSS software so that they can be
used right away by everyone to benefit).

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> In fact, you also know we _already_ have an _Android_ FOSS solution.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/63jvT33r/linktopc01.jpg>

Ooops. Wrong screenshot for the FOSS solution!
<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC

The "Link to PC" stuff came about from the _adult_ discussion on the _adult_
operating system newsgroups (never are the Apple newsgroups adult dialog).
*How do you mirror your Android phone on your Windows computer?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/eMYBmpq2H50>

For the Android folks to benefit from knowledge gleaned on the Windows ng:
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>

The _free_ Windows "Phone Link" app is located here:
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/phone-link/9nmpj99vjbwv#activetab=pivot:overviewtab>

The Link To Windows Android app is located here:
*Link to Windows* by Microsoft Corporation
free, ad free, req GSF, rated 3.9, 500M+ installs
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.appmanager>

It turns out that some Samsung phones (like mine) already come with the
phonelink software pre installed, which we found out in that adult dialog.
<https://i.postimg.cc/L5gnX3GS/linktopc07.jpg>

This is a summary of what Microsoft says that app combination does:
a. Get instant access to everything you love on your phone from your PC.
b. Link your Android phone and PC to view and reply to text messages
c. Make and receive calls over Bluetooth
d. View your notifications
e. Share your favorite images between your phone and PC
f. Copy, edit, and even drag and drop photos without touching your phone
g. Wirelessly dragging and dropping your files from your phone to your PC
h. Wirelessly dragging and dropping your files from your PC to your phone

In summary, we have multiple free solutions, one of which is super powerful
and FOSS and the other of which has additional Bluetooth functionality for
Android.

Hence, for the tutorial I'm writing, it's only natural to seek the same kind
of free functionality for my iOS devices so that everyone can benefit when I
publish the cross-platform tutorial (which almost all of mine are).
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[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> But if there's a FOSS solution for mirroring the iPhone and/or iPad to a
> Windows PC, that nospam knows about, I'd of course include it. It's
> typical behavior of nospam to insist that he knows an answer to
> someone's question but to play these kinds of games.

Thanks for taking a stab at answering what is in effect a difficult question
to answer (where I asked the same question on the Android & Windows
newsgroups and the responses on both were very useful and always adult).

I already wrote the tutorial for using FOSS software to mirror Android on
Windows and I was just trying to add the same FOSS solution for iOS mirrors.

I want _everyone_ to benefit, including you and me (both of us use both iOS
and Android devices every single day, and many people have families who use
both as we also do).

For Android, it's so simple that it's clever, in that it's a single command:
Mirror Android on Windows on USB: C:\> scrcpy
Mirror Android on Windows on LAN: C:\> scrcpy --tcpip=192.168.0.2:5555

It's sooooo simple that it's ingenious and it's all FOSS software so the
amount of added functionality in the options will blow your mind away (it's
similar to that of ffmpeg, irfanview, youtubedl, wget, etc. in terms of
they've thought of every freakin' option you'd ever want to do already!).

<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC

Now all I want to do is add an iOS mirroring onto Windows section to the
nascent tutorial, where I just _love_ how easy it is on Android and I was
hoping it would be as easy to do for iOS so that everyone would benefit.

Rest assured I researched on iOS FOSS solutions before I posted where I was
hoping to find someone (anyone) on the iOS newsgroups who knew more than I
did - but so far, nobody can find a FOSS solution where the best solution,
so far anyway, is the trialware that turns into nagware if you abuse it.

https://www.lonelyscreen.com ($15/year but can be used as trialware nagware)
https://www.mirroring360.com ($12 per mirrored computer)
https://www.airserver.com ($20 per license)
https://www.airsquirrels.com ($20 reflector + $18 airparrot or $34 bundle)

While nospam pretends to have a better solution, I, like you, doubt he does.
But we'll see as all I want is a FOSS solution for iOS screen mirroring.

It's something _everyone_ could benefit from, don't you think?

To that goal, if someone on this newsgroup knows more than I do about
FOSS screen mirroring of iOS onto Windows, please let us know what you know.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Notice the "FOSS" qualifier in "Andy Burnelli's" request.
>
> thereby setting the stage for his rant, and apparently yours as well.

This is yet another indication that you have an extremely low IQ nospam,
since any _adult_ would know that I always ask for FOSS apps on _all_
platforms.

In the Silicon Valley startups, they'd fire you in days if they told you
something and then you made your assessment as if you never were told that.

I've never met people as ignorant as you are in my entire life, nospam.

For you to claim that I don't always ask for FOSS apps in all the platforms,
just is further explicit proof of how shockingly stupid all you iKooks are.

> there are also various free solutions.

Heh heh heh... I only looked for about ten or fifteen minutes and I probably
know more now than you do and even more than you ever will about them in
your entire life nospam. You're _that_ shockingly stupid.

The proof of how stupid you are nospam is the answer to this question.
*NAME JUST ONE*

Note: I can tell you have no education whatsoever because you couldn't pass
a single class in college or graduate school always being so very wrong.

>> Personally I have not seen a FOSS solution to mirror an iPhone screen to
>> a Windows PC, and I've looked for one in the past.
>
> bullshit you've searched.
>
> there are *several* free options for mirroring an iphone to windows,
> which are *easily* found in a search.

Oh yeah. Let's hear them nospam.
*NAME JUST ONE*

Note both Steve and I listed a bunch of apps, none of which are free; but at
least we listed the apps we found, whereas these iKooks can never come up
with the facts.

It's further proof of my claim that all the iKooks have shockingly low IQs.
They can't even back up a _single_ claim they make with even a single fact.

> in fact, did another search just now and found a few new ones.

Again, the fact that nospam makes these claims is indicative of his
shockingly low IQ because, like a small child who says he did his homework,
he never seems to be able to find it in his backpack to give to the teacher.

*NAME JUST ONE*

> the method is not proprietary and anyone can write such a utility
> (assuming they're not clueless like some people here).

It's interesting that it's nospam who is clueless since he's the one who is
making claims that he can't back up - and yet his defense is that everyone
else is clueless as he already gave us the answer a hundred times will be
his _next_ response.

Another way to tell nospam has an extremely low IQ is that all his excuses
for why he doesn't have his homework that he claimed he did can be predicted
_years_ in advance.

His brain can't even come up with a better excuse than it's in the bag.
And yet, it's not.

*NAME JUST ONE*

>
> it also looks like you are using 'foss', as your troll-buddy 'arlen',
> aka andy burnelli does, to be able to reject any suggestion made.

Again, you'd be fired if you made assessments like that in any Silicon
Valley startup nospam because any _adult_ knows that I _always_ use FOSS
apps.

Most people on Usenet are cowards, so nobody is going to back up that claim,
but I know it's true and that means you are incredibly ignorant, nospam.

The fact _all_ your assessments are dead wrong is how I know you not only
have an extremely low IQ, but that you hang around dumb people who _believe_
your bullshit, nospam.

But no adult believes that you did your homework since you can never produce
it.

*NAME JUST ONE*

>> For the
>> iPhone and iPad, it¹s possible to do screen mirroring to a Windows PC
>> but it isn¹t free

>
> wrong. it is possible to do that *for* *free*.

Name a single FOSS app that does it for iOS on Windows, nospam.
*NAME JUST ONE*

The fact you can't, and yet that you say you can, is a sure indicator that
your IQ is so low that you don't even realize that everyone else knows this.

> you're not interested in learning how because it doesn't fit your
> narrative.

Heh heh heh... you sound just like the Russian Foreign Minister when he
tried to push his "Humanitarian" resolution in the UN Security Council.

The fact is _YOU_ are the one for whom FOSS doesn't fit _your_ narrative.
It _always_ fit mine.

*NAME JUST ONE*

>> But if there's a FOSS solution for mirroring the iPhone and/or iPad to a
>> Windows PC, that nospam knows about, I'd of course include it. It's
>> typical behavior of nospam to insist that he knows an answer to
>> someone's question but to play these kinds of games.
>
> the only games are yours.

Again, you sound like Sergey Lavrov and, in fact, you could be his twin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Lavrov

It's _you_ who is playing the games here.
The rest of us want to know if there is a FOSS Windows iOS mirroring app.

And, so far, neither Steve nor I can find it and yet you claim they abound.

*NAME JUST ONE*

> you know quite well you won't include anything i say because i
> consistently show you to be totally wrong for nearly everything in that
> 'document' (and other topics too).

I'll include it in my tutorial nospam since I'm the one asking for a FOSS
Windows iOS mirroring app and you're the one claiming they abound.

*NAME JUST ONE*

> you also won't include anything several other people say which also
> show you to be wrong.

You and Sergey Lavrov are the same in how you make these claims that are
patently untrue simply because _YOU_ claimed that the FOSS Windows iOS
mirroring apps abound and all the rest of us are asking you is name one.

*NAME JUST ONE*

> it would help if you actually used an iphone before creating a
> 'document' about it. at least then it might be somewhat accurate rather
> than a cesspool of easily refuted propaganda bullshit.

BTW, as an intelligent, well educated person (in stark contrast to nospam
and the rest of the ill-educated low-IQ iKooks), I _test_ out all freeware
suggestions, and, in fact, I just tested for Andy Burns the "Cards" app,
which, to the point of this thread, does NOT allow screenshotting (heh heh).
<https://i.postimg.cc/90pQ60PS/cards05.jpg> Added a VISA & an insurance ID

For those who don't know it, the Cards app is a free encrypted wallet that
can store your ID cards _without_ you having to log into anything.

Snapping that screenshot was trivial on Window because I mirror Android over
Wi-Fi with a simple command on Windows (and zero added software on Android).
--
The problem with the iKooks like Jolly Roger & nospam is that they think
everyone is as incredibly low IQ as they have - which is why spending a half
hour googling will reveal more than they ever will know in their entire life

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> The README shows how to do everything that I was asking about
> a. Pinch to zoom with a mouse
> b. Keep phone awake
> c. Copy/paste between Android & Windows (both ways)
> etc.
> <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy#readme>

For two days now I've been both using the phone in my hands, and mirrroting
the phone at my desktop monitor (both working at the same time), which is
really convenient. You can leave it on the charger, for example, and still
use it on your computer - which again - you can do anything that you want.

About the only gotcha that was left was that it wasn't intuitive how to get
the copy and paste working between the two platforms - but I figured it out.

The MOD key for my phone is apparently the left alt key and not the Windows
key (also known as the "Super" key in the scrcpy readme file).

For some reason unknown to me as yet, the Shift key is also required.

Hence, if I want to paste a long URL from Windows into the mirrored phone
Pulse SMS app, on Windows I select and copy the URL normally with Control+C.

Then in Pulse SMS on the mirrored Android screen, I press the Shift and the
Left Alt key and the V key to paste that long URL from Windows to Android.

To go the other way, I select & copy the text using the normal Android
methods (usually you long press and deal with the "select all" stuff) and
then the paste back into Windows is just a normal Control+V sequence.

From the README at <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy#readme>

--legacy-paste
Inject computer clipboard text as a sequence of key events on Ctrl+v
(like MOD+Shift+v).
This is a workaround for some devices not behaving as expected when
setting the device clipboard programmatically.

MOD+v
Copy computer clipboard to device, then paste (inject PASTE keycode,
Android >= 7 only)

MOD+Shift+v
Inject computer clipboard text as a sequence of key events

So far _all_ the things I needed to do have been in the options, including
hitting the hardware buttons using various "Left Alt" MOD key combinations.

MOD+Up
Click on VOLUME_UP

MOD+Down
Click on VOLUME_DOWN

In summary, pretty much it does everything you'd want it to do, where it's
so convenient, you can keep the phone on your screen all day while you're
using the phone in your hands such that you can use the phone even if it's
fifty feet away from you.

In fact, I used it to snap pictures of a fox outside when I kept the camera
on, and then when I saw the vixen, I snapped a picture without the fox ever
knowing I was watching her. :)

Since you can likely run _multiple_ Android devices on your desktop monitor,
you can turn any spare Android phone into a remote "keyhole camera" of
sorts.

[Andy Burnelli]

Update.

The summary below is posted because I'm an intelligent, kind-hearted,
purposefully helpful netizen who cares that others can do what I was
able to do given a few hours learning how to mirror Android perfectly
on Windows (where all the tricks below were learned on this newsgroup!).

<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC

<https://i.postimg.cc/tTmdgKTB/scrcpy02.jpg> An efficient program setup
<https://i.postimg.cc/Vvrq0K0m/scrcpy03.jpg> The efficient setup explained

SUMMARY:
To mirror Android on Windows over Wi-Fi or USB, tap the custom shortcut.
Or tap the taskbar Run icon & enter "scrcpy<return>".
To screenshot _just_ the Android window, press "Ctrl+LeftArrow"
Voila!

The dozen well-organized setups below are how _all_ programs should be set up.
0. The {adb,scrcpy} FOSS zip file is at <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>
1. The executable is saved in c:\archive\editor\android\scrcpy\scrcopy.zip
2. The program is installed to c:\app\editor\android\scrcpy\{adb,scrcpy}.exe
3. The shortcut is saved to c:\menu\editor\android\scrcpy.lnk
4. The menu is pinned to the taskbar (note all hierarchies mirror each other)
5. The apppath RUN command is: Win+R > scrcpy
6. That runs [HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\scrcpy.exe]
7. Which is defined as: [@Default=c:\menu\editor\android\scrcpy.lnk]
8. The TARGET is: %comspec% /k cd /d "c:\app\editor\android\scrcpy" && adb connect 192.168.0.2:5555 && scrcpy --always-on-top --tcpip=192.168.0.2:5555
9. The ICON is: c:\icon\editor\android\scrcpy\scrcpy.ico
10. From: https://cdn4.iconfinder.com/data/icons/smart-phones-technologies/512/android-phone-color.png
11. The mount command is: net use Z: \\192.168.0.2@8080\DavWWWRoot /USER:andy burnelli
12. The Irfanview capture command is: capture_$U(%Y%m%d_%H%M%S)_###

Those dozen setup steps make running & managing screen mirroring easy!
a. To mirror Android, just type "scrcpy" on Windows
(Zero software needs to be on Android as this is transparent to Android!)
b. You can save from Windows _directly_ to Android since _all_ of Android is
mounted as a drive letter (the entire phone, even the read-only system!)
c. You can paste the Windows clipboard to Android with "Shift+Leftalt+V"
(all other cut/copy/paste commands work as you are already used to)
d. You can operate Android hardware buttons using that "LeftAlt" MOD key
(e.g., "LeftAlt+UpArrow" presses the volume up key by one notch each time)
<https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy#readme>

As always, if you can find a way to _improve_ this process, please post your
added value as Usenet is where purposefully helpful kind-hearted people help
each other by sharing the knowledge as a team sport for the benefit of all!

This will be saved in the permanent Usenet records for future reference:
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/Pmcqi4Mvuhw>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/eMYBmpq2H50>

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> To mirror Android on Windows over Wi-Fi or USB, tap the custom shortcut.
> Or tap the taskbar Run icon & enter "scrcpy<return>".
> To screenshot _just_ the Android window, press "Ctrl+LeftArrow"

To those of you who know about Covey, sharpening the saw is a basic skill.
To learn more about screen mirroring, I ran a basic search and found these.

*10 Best Apps To Mirror Android Screen To PC in 2022*
<https://techviral.net/best-apps-to-mirror-android-screen-to-pc/>
Teamview Quick Support
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market>
Vysor
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.vysor>
ApowerMirror
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apowersoft.mirror>
AirDroid
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid>
Screen Stream Mirroring
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobzapp.screenstream.trial>
Mobile to PC Screen Mirroring/Sharing
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.agileapps.screenstream>
Mobizen Mirroring (file not found)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rsupport.mobizen.cn>
Miracast Display Finder
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.agillaapps.miracastfinder>
Screen Cast
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.screencast>
MirrorGo
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wondershare.mirrorgo>

Note some of those are dumb casts, which isn't the same thing we've
accomplished with scrcpy (which can _control_ Android from Windows).

Also note that since all of those run on Android, they may respect the
screenshot prevention security policy, which, after all, was what the
original problem set entailed.

*How to mirror Android to PC - 6 Best Apps*
<https://fossbytes.com/android-screen-mirroring-apps-pc/>
Vysor ($10 yearly)
ApowerMirror ($30 yearly)
AirDroid ($20 yearly)
Screen Stream Mirroring by MobZapp ($5)
Mobizen ($24 yearly)

*How to Mirror Your Android Display on a Windows Computer*
<https://www.howtogeek.com/726487/how-to-mirror-your-android-display-on-a-windows-computer/>
Samsung Your Phone app (it's a hidden app on some Samsungs only)
AirDroid <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sand.airdroid>

*Mirroring an Android Phone to a Windows PC*
<https://www.alphr.com/how-to-mirror-android-to-a-pc-or-laptop/>
Scrcpy <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>

*How to Screen Mirror Android Phone Tablet to Windows*
<https://www.techsolutions.support.com/how-to/how-to-screen-mirror-android-phone-tablet-to-windows-12652>
Microsoft app Connect with Miracast

There's also a free product called "LetsView" which can screenshot.
But it doesn't allow you to control the phone from the PC.
<https://letsview.com/windows> (apowersoft)
Mirrors two PC screens or android or iOS on Windows
but it doesn't control the device. It's just a dumb cast over Wi-Fi.
It supports AirPlay and Miracast to wirelessly stream Android
and iPhone screens to PC with audio.
<https://letsview.com/faqs/faq>

And there's this shill for "Tenorshare Phone Mirror" ($40 yearly)
<https://www.tenorshare.com/mirror-android/how-to-mirror-android-to-pc.html#p6>

If that quick skim of what's available for mirroring and _interacting_ with
Android over Windows (Wi-Fi & USB), then scrcpy is perhaps a good choice
indeed (since it works completely on Windows using methods we already have).
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[Andy Burnelli]

NY wrote:

> If the solution is "actually quite simple" then why the F won't you just
> tell people the answer instead of sitting there smugly saying "I know the
> answer - but I'm not going to tell you".

I would be perfectly happy if nospam is correct that we missed the solution.

> The spirit of news groups is a community of people who actually *want* to
> help each other.

All I want is the solution so that I can add it to my helpful tutorials.

> There is no place for people like you who sit on the
> sidelines, being smug, and not passing on their knowledge or experiences.

Steve & I both ran a search but nospam claims we're too stupid to find the
many solutions to the stated problem that nospam says he knows of offhand.

> He spent a lot of time wandering round the office, looking over people's
> shoulders, muttering "yes, that's easy" or "it's in one of those books
> over there".

We're all still waiting for nospam to come up with what he claims we missed.
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[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> If that quick skim of what's available for mirroring and _interacting_ with
> Android over Windows (Wi-Fi & USB), then scrcpy is perhaps a good choice
> indeed (since it works completely on Windows using methods we already have).

UPDATE:
<https://i.postimg.cc/V6tyDpNd/aurora17.jpg> Save every APK ever installed
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mounted as a Win drive
<https://i.postimg.cc/Sx1hgWmY/scrcpy06.jpg> Press two hardware buttons
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y00vx4yp/scrcpy04.jpg> Extraneous cmd window (&)

<https://i.postimg.cc/Vvrq0K0m/scrcpy03.jpg> The efficient setup explained
<https://i.postimg.cc/tTmdgKTB/scrcpy02.jpg> An efficient program setup

<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC

Woo hoo!

Today I needed to screenshot the Android phone from Windows over Wi-Fi by
putting the Android phone into "scroll" mode, which requires simultaneous
pressing of _two_ hardware buttons & then a subsequent tapping on a box
containing a "scroll down" icon that then pops up on the Android screen.

Given the FOSS scrcpy developers (actually, it was Genymotion who donated
the src apparently) have apparently thought of everything, it was easy.

The hardware buttons to press simultaneously are:
a. Power Key
b. Volume Down key

That was accomplished by pressing, in Windows the:
MOD key + downarrow (i.e., the volume down key) & p (i.e., the power key)

Essentially the left hand holds down the MOD key (aka the leftalt key).
And the right hand simultaneously presses the downarrow & p keyboard keys.

You need big hands, where, luckily, mine are XXL so it's no problem for me.

BTW, you can even expand and collapse the notification panel:
a. Expand Notification Panel === Mod + n
b. Collapse Notification Panel === Mod + Shift + n

But one of the _neatest_ tricks was the drag and drop of an APK file!
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg>

Literally, you drag _any_ APK from your PC file system onto the mirrored
Android Window, and it's _silently_ completely installed automatically!

How kewl is that!

If you consider that a WebDAV server mounts the _entire_ Android phone
system (even the system root filesystem!) onto Windows as a drive letter,
coupled with the FOSS Google Play Store client _not_ deleting APKs after
they're installed off of the Google Play Store... then you have complete
drag-and-drop access to _all_ the APKs you've ever installed - on _multiple_
phones which are on your LAN - all completely seamlessly and silently!
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mounted as a Win drive

This FOSS Windows scrcpy program is an instant keeper!
<https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>

It's so simple... the developers have thought of almost everything already!
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[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> This FOSS Windows scrcpy program is an instant keeper!
> <https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy>

I'm not ashamed to admit just a few days ago I was ignorant of the ease of
not only bypassing all Android recording restrictions, but also of how well
this FOSS software works to allow operation of Android on Windows over WiFi.

You can sit at your computer with your phone on a charger fifty feet away,
and you can still control the phone using the Windows PC mouse & keyboard
(and the phone grows to 20 inches from 6.5 inches for those tired old eyes).

When I asked on the other operating system newsgroups how people do it, the
_adult_ operating system newsgroups added tremendous value to the setup:
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.msdos.batch/c/DmexCLwn_tM>
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/eMYBmpq2H50>

Only on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroup was there no value.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/6Oc1eLcB7uM>

In fact, as usual, the child-like Apple owners deprecated the mere hint that
anyone would want to be able to do something Apple didn't provide to them.

It's always the case with these Apple child-like operating system newsgroups
that the _same_ question asked of them garners child-like responses that
never appear on the _adult_ operating systems newsgroups (see above proof).

Nonetheless, the goal is to learn how to wrest control over the device,
where it's _fantastic_ how well FOSS smartphone mirroring works on PCs.

Below, for all to benefit from in the permanent archive, are illustrations:
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y93b1z0n/scrcpy18.jpg> Free Automation APKs
<https://i.postimg.cc/bvRXdbxg/scrcpy17.jpg> AutoIT & IFFT & Automate
<https://i.postimg.cc/5NrK7jtg/scrcpy16.jpg> powershell hide-console trick
<https://i.postimg.cc/g2yNftw0/scrcpy15.jpg> Trick to pin batch shortcut
<https://i.postimg.cc/XqZsmVFM/scrcpy14.jpg> AppPath & shortcut TARGET
<https://i.postimg.cc/CxXH6N2r/scrcpy13.jpg> No scrcpy console window!
<https://i.postimg.cc/yYKNnHxD/scrcpy12.jpg> REG test of showwin.lnk
<https://i.postimg.cc/7LWJhWxq/scrcpy11.jpg> Shortcut test of showwin.lnk
<https://i.postimg.cc/fyWw2nXh/scrcpy10.jpg> The console came up :(
<https://i.postimg.cc/66Gn2t2g/scrcpy09.jpg> REG test of showwin.bat
<https://i.postimg.cc/nV6K0Cfn/scrcpy08.jpg> CMD test of showwin.bat
<https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mnt as drive letter

<https://i.postimg.cc/Sx1hgWmY/scrcpy06.jpg> Press two hardware buttons
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y00vx4yp/scrcpy04.jpg> Extraneous cmd window (&)
<https://i.postimg.cc/Vvrq0K0m/scrcpy03.jpg> The efficient setup explained
<https://i.postimg.cc/tTmdgKTB/scrcpy02.jpg> An efficient program setup
<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC

If you can _improve_ this process such that we all benefit, please do so!
--
Usenet is where friendly adults daily gather to discuss topics of interest.

[Andy Burnelli]

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> We're all still waiting for nospam to come up with what he claims we missed.

Not surprisingly, we're _still_ waiting for nospam to back up his claims.

[Hank Rogers]

He's probably too busy laughing at you.

Maybe if you post some more book pics, that'll get his attention.

[Andy Burnelli]

> How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?

With Vysor, we can bypass screenshots remotely, across the Internet!

To summarize, I tested the following solutions for screen copy screenshots:
a. Screencopy scrcpy freeware
<https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy#readme>
b. Vysor freeware/payware
<https://github.com/koush/vysor.io/wiki>
c. PB freeware port of the PushBullet payware
<https://sidneys.github.io/pb-for-desktop/>
All of which work on Windows, macOS, and Linux desktops with Android.

Vysor even (supposedly) works with iOS (although it's a beta apparently).
<https://github.com/koush/vysor.io/wiki/Vysor-for-iOS>
(This tool we found even the Apple iOS newsgroup folks aren't aware of.)

I tried to set Vysor up with iOS and it failed but it also requires Apple
Mobile Device Support typical Apple clusterfuckware on Windows, which failed
when I tried installing it. It would probably work on a non-hardened PC.
"Vysor on Windows and Linux requires the Vysor for iOS companion app.
Currently Vysor for iOS is in Beta.
You must install TestFlight from the AppStore, and then join the beta
to get access to the Vysor for iOS app.
Install TestFlight
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/testflight/id899247664>
Join Vysor Beta
After TestFlight is installed, click this link on iOS to join
the Vysor Beta: <https://testflight.apple.com/join/kG9lC5kf>
Start Vysor on iOS"

Yet Vysor worked perfectly, and instantly, with Android mirrored on Windows.

Here are some representative screenshots using the Vysor free version.
<https://i.postimg.cc/QNwjsCDM/vysor01.jpg> Vysor Android/iOS PC mirroring
<https://i.postimg.cc/V6TPYG3h/vysor02.jpg> Vysor console closes gracefully
<https://i.postimg.cc/v8gc5pHc/vysor03.jpg> Vysor remote sharing connection
<https://i.postimg.cc/XY3qSqKC/vysor04.jpg> Vysor ADB USB setup switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/d0V03fxQ/vysor05.jpg> Vysor mirrors over the Internet
<https://i.postimg.cc/ydJYXZKw/vysor06.jpg> Remote mirror over the Internet
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y2WCvYbF/vysor07.jpg> iOS requires Apple AMDS kluge
<https://i.postimg.cc/yYCYcxbb/vysor08.jpg> Apple Mobile Device Support
<https://i.postimg.cc/2S2zsw8s/vysor09.jpg> Classic Apple Error code 2503
<https://i.postimg.cc/XvPnJY5x/vysor10.jpg> Vysor Windows Virtual Camera
<https://i.postimg.cc/wxL9qHjc/vysor11.jpg> Vysor searches for Android/iOS
<https://i.postimg.cc/sg6r6gTy/vysor12.jpg> Vysor easily finds Android only
<https://i.postimg.cc/bv4jPFXB/vysor13.jpg> Vysor Camera virtual webcam
<https://i.postimg.cc/SRhF22xL/vysor14.jpg> Connect over the Internet
<https://i.postimg.cc/c4TyCJyY/vysor15.jpg> Apple Mobile Device Support
<https://i.postimg.cc/Jzdf3dhz/vysor16.jpg> Classic Apple Error Code 2503
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZqB1wF9F/vysor17.jpg> Install Apple AMDS engine
<https://i.postimg.cc/V6X28fWJ/vysor18.jpg> Apple Mobile Device Support
<https://i.postimg.cc/yxP5DL5B/vysor19.jpg> Classic Apple error 2503
<https://i.postimg.cc/J7cSYhhg/vysor20.jpg> Classic Apple error 2502
<https://i.postimg.cc/QdVPMkqG/vysor21.jpg> Apple iPad on Win10 over USB
<https://i.postimg.cc/Kz7pW9mL/vysor22.jpg> Apple Win10 iOS drivers suck
<https://i.postimg.cc/tCvS8nGr/vysor23.jpg> iPad is connected to Win10
<https://i.postimg.cc/3wmtyL46/vysor24.jpg> Apple Device working properly
<https://i.postimg.cc/fTy57WSY/vysor25.jpg> Best iOS drivers installed
--
Just one post from an intelligent educated helpful person is worth more
value than _all_ the posts ever made from all the low-IQ iKooks combined.

[Andy Burnelli]

Bad news.

Recently I migrated the phone from Android 11 to Android 12.
What worked, no longer works.
Drat.

Android 12 seems to have somehow broken this screenshot-bypassing trick.
Now I'm going to have to figure out another way to bypass screenshots.
Sigh.
--
Maybe they're watching us.

[Nemanja Momcilovic]

Hello, I have a personal issue I'm trying to resolve with the Android 12 blocking screenshots. @here @everyone have you somehow managed to bypass the screenshot blocking, perhaps by using a third party application?

[Andy Burnelli]

Nemanja Momcilovic wrote:

> Hello, I have a personal issue I'm trying to resolve with the Android 12 blocking screenshots. @here @everyone have you somehow managed to bypass the screenshot blocking, perhaps by using a third party application?

Android 12 screenshot blocking on my Samsung Galaxy A32-5G, could be
bypassed using current scrcpy freeware on the Windows PC in 100% of the
tests I ran for this thread.

When I upgraded that same phone to Android 12 and ran those same tests,
the bypassing only worked about half the time in the tests that I ran.

Dunno what's different.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which in this case was to help someone answer a question about Android 12.

[David L. P. Solimano]

My foolproof low-tech workaround is to have a second phone handy, and
use its camera. Inconvenient but works every time.

--
David Solimano
da...@solimano.org

[sms]

On 4/16/2022 11:13 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

> Andy Burnelli wrote:
>
>> How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?
>

> With a separate camera?  Makes it pretty pointless to block the screenshot.

Yes, but that's a pain to do.

The best workaround is to use an iPhone which doesn't support apps
implementing the prevention of screenshots.

[sms]

Not possible as far as I know. The capability to block screenshots is
part of the Android OS and apps can take advantage of that capability.

The iPhone lacks that security feature so if you can find someone with
an iPhone and use it to go to the same place in the iPhone version of
the app, you can get around this problem. I've done that in the past.

[nospam]

In article <ted665$a61t$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> >> How do you bypass an app's security policy against taking screenshots?
> >
> > With a separate camera?  Makes it pretty pointless to block the screenshot.
>
> Yes, but that's a pain to do.
>
> The best workaround is to use an iPhone which doesn't support apps
> implementing the prevention of screenshots.

yes it does, and in a similar manner as android.

[nospam]

In article <ted6jo$a7lo$1...@dont-email.me>, sms

<scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:

> Not possible as far as I know. The capability to block screenshots is
> part of the Android OS and apps can take advantage of that capability.

that is true.

> The iPhone lacks that security feature

that is false.

[Andy Burnelli]

nospam wrote:

>> Not possible as far as I know. The capability to block screenshots is
>> part of the Android OS and apps can take advantage of that capability.
>
> that is true.

I only know what I know which is on Android 11 it was not true in that the
scrcpy freeware run on Windows 10 allowed screenshots of _every_ supposedly
blocked screen on Android.

The instant I migrated to Android 11 on that same phone using those same
apps, that Windows 10 mirroring screenshotting capability was about halved.

So while screenshot-blocking _is_ part of the OS, it isn't foolproof.

<https://i.postimg.cc/N0G1TXcZ/scrcpy01.jpg> Mirror Android on any PC
<https://i.postimg.cc/tTmdgKTB/scrcpy02.jpg> An efficient program setup

<https://i.postimg.cc/Vvrq0K0m/scrcpy03.jpg> The efficient setup explained

<https://i.postimg.cc/wvsbcNBz/scrcpy05.jpg> Drag APK from Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/Sx1hgWmY/scrcpy06.jpg> Press two hardware buttons

<https://i.postimg.cc/hjkVFyqJ/scrcpy07.jpg> Android mnt as drive letter
<https://i.postimg.cc/nV6K0Cfn/scrcpy08.jpg> CMD test of showwin.bat

<https://i.postimg.cc/66Gn2t2g/scrcpy09.jpg> REG test of showwin.bat
<https://i.postimg.cc/fyWw2nXh/scrcpy10.jpg> The console came up :(

<https://i.postimg.cc/7LWJhWxq/scrcpy11.jpg> Shortcut test of showwin.lnk
<https://i.postimg.cc/yYKNnHxD/scrcpy12.jpg> REG test of showwin.lnk

<https://i.postimg.cc/CxXH6N2r/scrcpy13.jpg> No scrcpy console window!
<https://i.postimg.cc/XqZsmVFM/scrcpy14.jpg> AppPath & shortcut TARGET

<https://i.postimg.cc/g2yNftw0/scrcpy15.jpg> Trick to pin batch shortcut
<https://i.postimg.cc/5NrK7jtg/scrcpy16.jpg> powershell hide-console trick

<https://i.postimg.cc/bvRXdbxg/scrcpy17.jpg> AutoIT & IFFT & Automate
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y93b1z0n/scrcpy18.jpg> Free Automation APKs

<https://i.postimg.cc/3R6nTz7s/scrcpy19.jpg> Start /b TARGET fails :(
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y9jbTtcN/scrcpy20.jpg> Start /b as a CMD works! :)
<https://i.postimg.cc/9FJMKYch/scrcpy21.jpg> Windows Drive: === Android
<https://i.postimg.cc/c4Wq5x9j/scrcpy22.jpg> Vysor IP address option
<https://i.postimg.cc/mrz6gJpC/scrcpy23.jpg> Android SMS/MMS on Windows
<https://i.postimg.cc/Hnw59ZHm/scrcpy24.jpg> Compare Vysor to scrcpy
<https://i.postimg.cc/tgvzsMRm/scrcpy25.jpg> Connect over Wi-Fi sans USB

[abouza youssef]

Bypassing an app's security policy against taking screenshots can be challenging and, in most cases, may violate the app's terms of service and legal agreements. I must emphasize the importance of respecting the security measures implemented by app developers and content creators.
https://www.frpbypass.net/download-vnrom-frp-bypass-apk/

[sms]

On 7/26/2023 3:34 PM, abouza youssef wrote:
> Bypassing an app's security policy against taking screenshots can be challenging and, in most cases, may violate the app's terms of service and legal agreements. I must emphasize the importance of respecting the security measures implemented by app developers and content creators.
> https://www.frpbypass.net/download-vnrom-frp-bypass-apk/

I'd be very wary of installing apks from unknown sources. In some cases
it's fine to install apps from sources like the Amazon app store or
F-Droid, but I would not risk installing the app mentioned above.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

[wish raw]

It can be difficult to get around an app's security restrictions against taking screenshots, and in most cases doing so may be against the terms of service and other agreements that apply to the app. I must stress how crucial it is to respect the security precautions taken by app developers and content producers.https://fifamobileapk.com/

[Gnaneshwar G]

On Tuesday, 11 July 2023 at 22:37:54 UTC+5:30, Gnaneshwar Gaddam wrote:

> https://www.techgrag.com/
https://www.techmaginc.com/how-to-invest-in-stock-market-how-to-buy-shares-complete-guide/
https://www.techmaginc.com/

[Digit Bard]

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 10:37:54 PM UTC+5:30, Gnaneshwar Gaddam wrote:
> On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 1:54:10 AM UTC+5:30, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> https://www.techgrag.com/
https://www.digitbard.in/2023/09/what-are-nft-how-to-buy-sell-nft-ultimate-guide.html
https://www.digitbard.in/2023/09/how-to-speed-up-windows-11-guide.html
https://www.digitbard.in/2023/09/how-to-install-minecraft-mods-on-server-step-by-step.html
https://www.digitbard.in/