Galaxy s5 uses 15% battery on WiFi with Wifi turned off and never on during sleep

[Bob F]

Android 6. I use this phone for calls a time or 2 a week, and a few
texts per month. Data is turned off. Power savings mode on.

Are there settings I haven't found.

I "stop" everything I can that I don't use often, like camera, play
store, maps...

Also wondering why my power usage skyrockets if I enable "ultra power
savings" mode.


Galaxy S5
android 6.0.1
Verizon through PagePlus

[Arlen Holder]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:54:17 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> his phone for calls

Adults on this newsgroup should be aware that Bob F. is a troll.
o Any time spent on this thread would be a waste of your time.

Don't believe me?
o Look here at Bob F's infantile political posts to a REPAIR ng:
<https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg>

We've asked him to stop trolling to which he told us to fuck off.
o He claims he has a right to troll.

Be forewarned.
o This Bob F. often posts in tandem with its "micky" & "T" socks:
micky <https://i.postimg.cc/4Nyd369x/micky01.jpg>
T: <https://i.postimg.cc/52nK78Ph/Troll-Named-T.jpg>
Bob F <https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg>
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[Ralph Fox]

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:54:17 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> Galaxy s5 uses 15% battery on WiFi with Wifi turned off and never on

> Android 6. I use this phone for calls a time or 2 a week, and a few
> texts per month. Data is turned off. Power savings mode on.
>
> Are there settings I haven't found.
>
> I "stop" everything I can that I don't use often, like camera, play
> store, maps...
>
>

> Galaxy S5
> android 6.0.1
> Verizon through PagePlus

My first guess would be that your device's Location Services is set
to use WiFi scanning, among other things, to determine your location.
When WiFi is turned off and Location Services wants to find your
location, Location Services will temporarily turn on WiFi and scan
for nearby WiFi hotspots to help determine your location.

To adjust the settings for your device's Location Services, see the
Samsung support page at
<https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-switch-on-my-location-and-change-my-location-settings/>,
then expand and read the section "Setting location accuracy".

Also see the Samsung support page at
<https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/galaxy-s5-neo-what-location-settings-gps-are-available-on-my-samsung-galaxy-s5-neo/>



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Kind regards
Ralph
🦊

[Dee]

Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:rt0ntb$gpl$1...@dont-email.me:

How old is the battery? The older the battery, the quicker it will
drain.

Dee

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 18:55:15 +1300, Ralph Fox wrote:

> ning, among other things,

Jesus Christ, why are these trolls infesting the Android newsgroup now?
o This "Ralph Fox" is a notorious infantile troll of the REPAIR newsgroups.

What I call the "highwinds" puppet master is throwing its socks at us.

Adults note its modus operandi is:
a. They post fabricated "issues" spending no effort whatsoever
b. (e.g., did you see the crap its "philo" sock threw at us yesterday?)
c. They spend _zero_ effort backing up their fabrications
d. They often post back with their sock puppets (e.g., this "Ralph Fox")
(who, by the way, is also known as "Fox's Mercantile", another troll)
e. Often, as we saw with its "philo" sock, they add imaginary hurdles
f. All so that they can earn a seat at the table.

Once they're at the table they inundate the ng with infantile politics.
o Just watch.
--
Adults, please note: This Ralph Fox is a notorious troll of the REPAIR ngs.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 12:12:51 GMT, Dee wrote:

> older the battery, the qui

Sock after sock after sock after sock...

This is exactly how it ruined the a.h.r newsgroup.

Same socks in fact.

[VanguardLH]

How are you determining the 15% battery usage is due to the wi-fi radio?
For my Android 8 LG V20 phone, Battery status shows usage by app, and I
have to go under Battery Usage to see consumption by radio (wifi,
cellular, Bluetooth, GPS), all apps, system, etc. Is that where you see
15% used by the wifi radio? Navigation to see radio battery usage might
differ on your phone.

With you enabling Samsung's ultra power savings mode, but seeing battery
consumption skyrocketing, I suspect you have an app that is desparately
attempting to get an Internet connection. Have you reviewed battery
usage by app to see any are super high?

Whose web browser are you using? If Chrome, that remains loaded and
running in the background despite you thought you exited it. Same for
all other apps: they remain in background until the OS needs their
memory for a newly loaded process. Unless you use a 3rd party task
manager, you don't get to exit any Android apps. The OS decides when to
unload them. However, some apps do have a real Exit function. For
example, Mobile Firefox has a Quit option in its menu that will actually
unload the program. With a web browser left running and loaded a
dynamic web page, could be the script is constantly changing the data.
If you look under Power Saving Exclusions, are any apps enabled (so they
are excluded from power savings)?

[sms]

I suspect that the report regarding battery usage is not accurate. Is
there a separate line item for location services (GPS) which is always on?

Is the battery life a problem? An S5 has to be six years old or so and
Li-Ion batteries will have lost a lot of capacity in six years.

[Bob F]

On 1/4/2021 9:55 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:54:17 -0800, Bob F wrote:
>
>> Galaxy s5 uses 15% battery on WiFi with Wifi turned off and never on
>
>> Android 6. I use this phone for calls a time or 2 a week, and a few
>> texts per month. Data is turned off. Power savings mode on.
>>
>> Are there settings I haven't found.
>>
>> I "stop" everything I can that I don't use often, like camera, play
>> store, maps...
>>
>>
>> Galaxy S5
>> android 6.0.1
>> Verizon through PagePlus
>
>
> My first guess would be that your device's Location Services is set
> to use WiFi scanning, among other things, to determine your location.
> When WiFi is turned off and Location Services wants to find your
> location, Location Services will temporarily turn on WiFi and scan
> for nearby WiFi hotspots to help determine your location.

Location Services are off unless I am using google maps, which is almost
never these days.

I see that "Recent location requests" come from google play services.

[Bob F]

I bought the battery a year or 2 ago.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:07:18 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> are off unless I am using google

This Bob F is a troll... (and this entire thread, is a troll), IMHO.

Don't believe me on Bob F being a troll?

These are his infantile political posts to a group that is not political.
o <https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg> Bob F infantile posts

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:16:14 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> ery a year or 2 a

Go away troll...
o Bob F <https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg>

[Bob F]

On 1/5/2021 7:35 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Android 6. I use this phone for calls a time or 2 a week, and a few
>> texts per month. Data is turned off. Power savings mode on.
>>
>> Are there settings I haven't found.
>>
>> I "stop" everything I can that I don't use often, like camera, play
>> store, maps...
>>
>> Also wondering why my power usage skyrockets if I enable "ultra power
>> savings" mode.
>>
>> Galaxy S5
>> android 6.0.1
>> Verizon through PagePlus
>
> How are you determining the 15% battery usage is due to the wi-fi radio?
> For my Android 8 LG V20 phone, Battery status shows usage by app, and I
> have to go under Battery Usage to see consumption by radio (wifi,
> cellular, Bluetooth, GPS), all apps, system, etc. Is that where you see
> 15% used by the wifi radio? Navigation to see radio battery usage might
> differ on your phone.

The 15% was listed on the "Battery" page - currently-

cell standby 19%
phone idle 13%
Wifi 12%
Android OS 9%
Android System 8%
Screen 3%
System UI 1%

>
> With you enabling Samsung's ultra power savings mode, but seeing battery
> consumption skyrocketing, I suspect you have an app that is desparately
> attempting to get an Internet connection. Have you reviewed battery
> usage by app to see any are super high?

In Application page:
Knox 7%
Help 7%
Settings 7%
Setup Wizard 7%
Voice recorder7% (Stopped)

Any idea what these thing do?

> Whose web browser are you using? If Chrome, that remains loaded and
> running in the background despite you thought you exited it. Same for
> all other apps: they remain in background until the OS needs their
> memory for a newly loaded process. Unless you use a 3rd party task
> manager, you don't get to exit any Android apps. The OS decides when to
> unload them. However, some apps do have a real Exit function. For
> example, Mobile Firefox has a Quit option in its menu that will actually
> unload the program. With a web browser left running and loaded a
> dynamic web page, could be the script is constantly changing the data.
> If you look under Power Saving Exclusions, are any apps enabled (so they
> are excluded from power savings)?
>

Firefox is loaded. Almost never used. Currently stopped.

I have wifi and mobile data turned off, except I might turn on wifi a
few times a month.

HD phone is enabled because that's all Verizon accepts these days

[Bob F]

Pot, kettle, black.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:44:14 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> as listed on the "B

This is proof this Bob F is a troll

o Bob F <https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg>

Why does it matter?

Because its modus operandi is to infest a newsgroup slowly, asking
fabricated questions, spending only seconds on them (e.g., "micky",
"philo", "T", et al.) where it then responds to its own trolls to keep the
troll thread alive.

Why?
o I don't know why.

Why do these infantile trolls troll?
o All I know is that they do.

In the thousands upon thousands upon thousands.
o All their particular brand of infantile politics.

Don't believe me?
o Look at the facts in that screenshot.

Look at its headers.
o Note that its sock "philo" wasted hours of our valuable time yesterday.

That's why it matters.
o The effort we waste on these infantile trolls is not spent helping
others.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:45:34 -0800, Bob F wrote:

>> Go away troll...
>> o Bob F <https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg>
>>
>
> Pot, kettle, black.

These infantile trolls always fail the simplest test of bullshitters.
o *Name just one*

I was _waiting_ for that response, you infantile troll.
o All bullshitters fail the simple basic "name just one" test.

Here's the proof you're an infantile bullshitting troll, "Bob F."

Point to a _single_ thread of mine, in the last year, to this newsgroup,
that you can consider a troll, Bob F.

*Name just one*

Here's _another_ test of your bullshitting trolling, Bob F.
o Name just one _tutorial_ you've posted to this ng in the past year.

*Name just one*

Here's another test of your bullshitting, Bob F.
o Name a _single_ thread of value from you to this ng in the last year.

*Name just one*
--
These infantile trolls always fail the simplest test of bullshitters.

[Bob F]

You do nothing but troll in A.H.R.

Enough said, troll.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:52:59 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> You do nothing but troll in A.H.R.
>
> Enough said, troll.

To the _adults_ on this newsgroup, notice this "Bob F." troll's response.

I asked it to name just one tutorial it wrote to c.m.a, in the past year
o And it couldn't name even one.

I asked it to name just one thread of value to c.m.a in the past year
o And it couldn't even name one.

I asked it to point to a single thread of mine it considers a troll in c.m.a.
o And it couldn't even name one.

My point about these worthless pieces of shit (e.g., "T", "philo", "micky",
"Bob F." (by the way, they _often_ post to the _same_ trolls, often within
mere seconds, congratulating their socks on their successful trolling.

When we politely asked them to stop trolling, they told us to fuck off.
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/ZqfJDrckXlQ> 1st request
o <https://groups.google.com/g/alt.home.repair/c/OqmfDmv-rEE> 2nd request
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Why does it matter that I point out that this entire thread is a troll?
o Because good hearted helpful people are _wasting_ their time on it.

Just as the hours I spent yesterday trying to help "philo" was wasted
o I couldn't understand why he kept throwing up hurdles after hurdles

It was just toying with us.
o Which is what this entire thread is.

It's a troll, toying with us.
o And every moment we spend on it is time not spent helping real people.
--

[VanguardLH]

Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dee wrote:
>
>> How old is the battery? The older the battery, the quicker it will
>> drain.
>

> I bought the battery a year or 2 ago.

I've not found a smartphone whose battery does not gas when left plugged
in all the time. The internal charger is supposed to stop charging, but
it continually tops off which will heat the battery which makes it gas.

Is the battery removable (by just popping off the back cover, and not by
disassembly)? If so, take a look at the battery. Does it look pregnant
(bulging)?

In every smartphone that I've had, I leave it connected to the charger
(USB port) when it's at home on my desk. In about a year, or a little
more, I'll find the battery is bulging, and have to replace it to get
the back cover back on. For me, the cost ($7-10) is okay per year to
let me have an always charged battery ready when I take the phone away
from home. In fact, I get smartphones with replaceable batteries so I
can carry a spare to swap in when the current one is too low. Much
easier to tote a spare battery inside a small ziplock bag (almost the
same size as the battery) in my fob pocket than that haul around a power
bank (which I do take on trips because it's about 5 times the capacity
of a single battery). My first clue to the battery becomed aged (not by
years, but due to gassing which is electrolyte degradation) is the
uptime diminishes. The phone, once removed from the charger, has
shorter and shorter on-power running time. When it gets to about half a
day, I check the battery, see it bulging, and put in a spare that I
already pre-purchased just for this scenario. When I replace the
battery, I buy another spare. I think I have 2 spares right now, plus
the one in the phone.

My aunt just asked me to repair her old Samsung Galaxy Core Prime phone.
She leaves that one plugged in all the time with a wifi connect to
webcam for her house. The battery bulged so much that the innards got
disconnected to the case. I don't see a means of repairing the phone
since it won't snap back together (after putting in a new battery). The
bulging battery was about twice its thickness and spongy due to the
gassing, and destroyed the phone. Hers took around 3 years before the
battery so bulged to damage the phone that she asked me to fix the
split-apart phone. The battery still worked, but its bulging destroyed
the phone. All lithiums outgas. You can only reduce it, not eliminate
it. For typical use where the phone is on the charger for just
overnight and then off the charger during the day, the battery loses the
ability to charge (wanes in capacity) before users notice the bulging.

Sorry, don't know if the permanently-sealed batteries and the charger
inside the sealed phones are any better. I won't be getting one of
those until they are no longer available with user-replaceable
batteries. While the lithium battery has its own over-voltage
protection, overly low-voltage disable, and perhaps other safety
features, consumer-grade lithiums do not have an outgassing detector.
Offgassing occurs due to breakdown of the electrolyte. Batteries, by
their definition, are degenerative power source. Being chemical means
they degrade.

With average ownership of smartphone being 2 years (yeah, consumers are
that well trained in the newer-is-better mantra, and many are leased
instead of bought outright), the manufacturers figure they don't need
the batteries to last much longer than that, or even more than about a
month beyond the warranty. The sealed phones can often be dismantled to
replace the battery, but you'll damage the water-resistant seal and have
to unsolder the old and solder in the new battery.

From a glance at the specs for your phone, looks like you're lucky in
that its battery is replaceable. 3 years is about the average lifespan,
so you're getting due for a new battery. Also, if saying you bought a
new battery a year, or two, ago means that's not when you bought the
phone but separately purchased a battery, be aware there are counterfeit
batteries out there. You want to make sure you get a genuine Samsung
replacement battery, and never used, too. The counterfeits are made to
look almost identical to the genuine batteries. For me, while there are
other-brand batteries, so they are selling under their name and not
Samsung's, I still lump these "compatibles" with counterfeits. They
rely on consumers thinking "a battery is a battery". Nope, different
brands have different electrolyte formulations, built-in logic, and
other features. Make sure it says Samsung. Then check the quality of
the shine of the labels. Check if the printing is sharp or fuzzy.
Pricing is sometimes a good indicator, too, but I've seen compatibles
selling for higher than what a genuine can be bought.

[nospam]

In article <xsa3y203iwqf$.dlg@v.nguard.lh>, VanguardLH <V...@nguard.LH>
wrote:

> In every smartphone that I've had, I leave it connected to the charger
> (USB port) when it's at home on my desk. In about a year, or a little
> more, I'll find the battery is bulging, and have to replace it to get
> the back cover back on.

you must be buying low quality phones with low quality batteries, or
have incredibly bad luck.

[sms]

On 1/5/2021 9:44 AM, Bob F wrote:

<snip>

> I have wifi and mobile data turned off, except I might turn on wifi a
> few times a month.
>
> HD phone is enabled because that's all Verizon accepts these days

As someone else postulated. that Wi-Fi percentage might be from some
background app just trying to use Wi-Fi which isn't there.

Also, I've installed some apps on my Samsung that say that they prevent
it from going into maximum power savings mode. But with the Note 9 that
battery is so large that I don't worry much about power savings.

As an aside, I used Page Plus many moons ago. But for low-usage, on
Verizon's network, Red Pocket is now a much better deal, $2.50 per month
for 200 Talk, 1000 Text, 200MB data
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/133196831828> and best of all there is no need
to add money every 120 days or lose everything! I had been buying the
$80/1 year refill, but the Red Pocket $60/year plan was a much better
deal than that.

With the 50¢/month service fee, the $10/120 day Page Plus refull leaves
only about $2 per month for service. At 6¢/minute for voice, 5¢ per SMS,
and 5¢/MB of data, it's no bargain. However Page Plus does allow,
theoretically, off-network roaming at extra cost (29¢/minute) not sure
if that's real or not since they were purchased by Tracfone. At one
time, when I had Page Plus, I would often roam onto a small CDMA carrier
in central California, and have to pay extra, but then Verizon bought
them out.

[Bob F]

On 1/5/2021 10:35 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dee wrote:
>>
>>> How old is the battery? The older the battery, the quicker it will
>>> drain.
>>
>> I bought the battery a year or 2 ago.
>
> I've not found a smartphone whose battery does not gas when left plugged
> in all the time. The internal charger is supposed to stop charging, but
> it continually tops off which will heat the battery which makes it gas.

I try to keep it in the range of 30-85% charge. When I see it below 40,
I charge it back up to the 80's. I have the charger on a 1 hour
mechanical bath fan timer, and can usually guess the needed time within
a few %. I cycle it to full charge maybe once a month.

>
> Is the battery removable (by just popping off the back cover, and not by
> disassembly)? If so, take a look at the battery. Does it look pregnant
> (bulging)?

Replaceable battery was my top requirement when I bought the phone used.
The S5 and the V20 were my 2 top choices.

>
> In every smartphone that I've had, I leave it connected to the charger
> (USB port) when it's at home on my desk. In about a year, or a little
> more, I'll find the battery is bulging, and have to replace it to get
> the back cover back on. For me, the cost ($7-10) is okay per year to
> let me have an always charged battery ready when I take the phone away
> from home. In fact, I get smartphones with replaceable batteries so I
> can carry a spare to swap in when the current one is too low. Much
> easier to tote a spare battery inside a small ziplock bag (almost the
> same size as the battery) in my fob pocket than that haul around a power
> bank (which I do take on trips because it's about 5 times the capacity
> of a single battery). My first clue to the battery becomed aged (not by
> years, but due to gassing which is electrolyte degradation) is the
> uptime diminishes. The phone, once removed from the charger, has
> shorter and shorter on-power running time. When it gets to about half a
> day, I check the battery, see it bulging, and put in a spare that I
> already pre-purchased just for this scenario. When I replace the
> battery, I buy another spare. I think I have 2 spares right now, plus
> the one in the phone.

I do have a spare too, but have not used it except for quick tests.

My batteries say Samsung, but even at the time I researched them, I
found plenty of reports of fake Samsung batteries, and reports that
Samsung no longer made them for that phone, that the only real ones
would be years old.

The battery I've been using has seemed fine, if I can keep things I do
not need on the phone from powering up and eating the battery charge.

[Bob F]

On 1/5/2021 10:54 AM, sms wrote:
> On 1/5/2021 9:44 AM, Bob F wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I have wifi and mobile data turned off, except I might turn on wifi a
>> few times a month.
>>
>> HD phone is enabled because that's all Verizon accepts these days
>
> As someone else postulated. that Wi-Fi percentage might be from some
> background app just trying to use Wi-Fi which isn't there.
>
> Also, I've installed some apps on my Samsung that say that they prevent
> it from going into maximum power savings mode. But with the Note 9 that
> battery is so large that I don't worry much about power savings.
>
> As an aside, I used Page Plus many moons ago. But for low-usage, on
> Verizon's network, Red Pocket is now a much better deal, $2.50 per month
> for 200 Talk, 1000 Text, 200MB data
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133196831828> and best of all there is no need
> to add money every 120 days or lose everything! I had been buying the
> $80/1 year refill, but the Red Pocket $60/year plan was a much better
> deal than that.

I will check that out. It certainly sounds good.

>
> With the 50¢/month service fee, the $10/120 day Page Plus refull leaves
> only about $2 per month for service. At 6¢/minute for voice, 5¢ per SMS,
> and 5¢/MB of data, it's no bargain. However Page Plus does allow,
> theoretically, off-network roaming at extra cost (29¢/minute) not sure
> if that's real or not since they were purchased by Tracfone. At one
> time, when I had Page Plus, I would often roam onto a small CDMA carrier
> in central California, and have to pay extra, but then Verizon bought
> them out.

I don't do much roaming.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:28:53 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> my top requirem

Go away troll.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 15:40:59 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> much roa

Go infest some other newsgroup, troll.

[nospam]

In article <rt2ted$6e0$1...@dont-email.me>, Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >
> > As an aside, I used Page Plus many moons ago. But for low-usage, on
> > Verizon's network, Red Pocket is now a much better deal, $2.50 per month
> > for 200 Talk, 1000 Text, 200MB data
> > <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133196831828> and best of all there is no need
> > to add money every 120 days or lose everything! I had been buying the
> > $80/1 year refill, but the Red Pocket $60/year plan was a much better
> > deal than that.
>
> I will check that out. It certainly sounds good.

if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

i used red pocket very, very briefly. it was a shitshow.

[Bob F]

I checked it out. The $2.50 plan will not work with my phone/Verizon.
Plans that would deliver less than my pageplus/Verizon service.

[sms]

On 1/5/2021 4:39 PM, Bob F wrote:

<snip>

> I checked it out. The $2.50 plan will not work with my phone/Verizon.
> Plans that would deliver less than my pageplus/Verizon service.

Odd, I have one Red Pocket/Verizon plan and it works fine on any phone
that works with Page Plus.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:39:42 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> out. The $2.50 plan will not

This Bob F. is a troll & this entire thread is a waste of time:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/wvff63gX/bobf01.jpg>

The modus operandi of all these trolls (perhaps the same one) is the same
o They fabricate a thread just to earn a place at the table

Then, WHAM!
o The infantile politics of Bob F. will be puked all over us.
--
Just watch.

[Bob F]

Are you paying $2.50 per month?

What is your plan called?

[Bob F]

I cannot find a battery usage for GPS or Location.

I try to minimize battery usage so the charge and the battery usage are
minimum. Whatever I do, I keep having to stop apps that suddenly start
gulping power. I have loaded only a few apps - google maps (offline),
Firefox, OneBusAway, SkiTracks, VolumeLocker, and currently have them
all stopped from the Application Manager.

I disable GPS except for occasional brief periods. I don't know how much
that affects the total battery usage of the GPS on this phone, but it
does make a significant difference.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:30:35 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> ble GPS except for occ

Hi Bob F,

As you know, you spent a lot of time today discussing the topic of"
o SUBJECT: I got along petty good with North Korea

So why don't you spend a bit of your time backing up your claims here?

Please snap a screenshot of your battery life claims.
o Otherwise, I suspect you're simply fabricating _everything_ you claim.

Rest assured, I am not asking you to do anything I don't do myself
o As Lord knows, I snap a hellova lot of screenshots for this newsgroup.

Given you discussed your penchant for North Korea today, "Bob F".,
why don't you back up even a single one of your Android claims
with something as simple as a screenshot please.
--
If we allow these infantile trolls to infest this newsgroup, they will turn
it into a cesspool of their infantile politics as Bob F. has already done.

[Arlen Holder]

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:30:35 -0800, Bob F wrote:

> ver I do, I keep hav

Hi Bob F,

As you know, you spent a lot of time today discussing the topic of:

o SUBJECT: *This must frost your balls*

[sms]

Ah, my mistake. The $2.50 plan won't work anymore on Verizon. I had that
plan before they removed Verizon as an option. Sorry about that.

Now I guess that the cheapest Verizon-compatible Red Pocket Plan is $5
per month: <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133058476404>.

[sms]

On 1/6/2021 9:27 AM, sms wrote:

<snip>

> Now I guess that the cheapest Verizon-compatible Red Pocket Plan is $5
> per month: <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133058476404>.

I have a Google Docs document that I've shared with a lot of people that
details the sub-$10 plans available on the AT&T and Verizon networks.

There are actually two MVNOs that use AT&T that don't have any monthly
minimum charge but Page Plus is the least expensive Verizon MVNO unless
I've missed one.

<https://tinyurl.com/0-10-Dollar-Wireless> or
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vVcbhBDoan8sfJ2SQ4dKPli6Nhs0jtGLIaTNl9efon8/>

[Bob F]

I get by right now with $10 every 4 months. I have a lot of minutes
carried over. If I ever need more, I will buy the $80/yr plan that adds
1666 minutes, but that won't be soon.

[sms]

On 1/6/2021 8:25 PM, Bob F wrote:

<snip>

> I get by right now with $10 every 4 months. I have a lot of minutes
> carried over. If I ever need more, I will buy the $80/yr plan that adds
> 1666 minutes, but that won't be soon.

I was a big fan of Page Plus. I had four accounts at one point, and I
sent a lot of new customers to them, especially for kids' phones (back
in the pre-smart-phone days). It was a better deal that Tracfone and you
were guaranteed Verizon service.

The annoyance of the Page Plus 120 day plans is that you absolutely have
to remember to renew at 120 days or you lose your accumulated balance.
They don't have auto-renewal every 120 days for pay-as-you-go, only
every month, though you can sign up for monthly auto-renewal with a
future start date then remove and restart it for a date 120 days later.

[Bob F]

They seem to be good about texting me about upcoming renewal dates these
days.

[Bob F]

On 1/4/2021 7:54 PM, Bob F wrote:
> Android 6. I use this phone for calls a time or 2 a week, and a few
> texts per month. Data is turned off. Power savings mode on.
>
> Are there settings I haven't found.
>
> I "stop" everything I can that I don't use often, like camera, play
> store, maps...
>
> Also wondering why my power usage skyrockets if I enable "ultra power
> savings" mode.
>
>
> Galaxy S5
> android 6.0.1
> Verizon through PagePlus

I finally found a resource for turning off the WiFi. No mah for wifi in
24 hours. It involves turning off scanning and turning airplane mode on
and off.

https://forums.androidcentral.com/ask-question/766601-wifi-turned-off-but-still-shows-battery-history.html