The Nizkor Project's Kenneth McVay's Out of Context Smear Answered - McVay is a Liar and an Agent of Smear
Herr Doktor Tavische
(Archived locally as: McVay_OutOfContextSmear)
From: kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Lomenzo the Mout, 1008, Friedrich Berg, hatemonger, 0
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:34:11 -0000
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID: <121oo5j...@corp.supernews.com>
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001)
Originator: kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
X-Complaints-To: ab...@supernews.com
In article <1142647770.5...@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
hoaxb...@earthlink.net <hoaxb...@earthlink.net> wrote:
http://nizkor<link munged-- why support a liar like Mcvay?>
--
"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
<end>
Your current record as of March 18, 2006 shows you posted the same out of
context deceit 43 times and you know full well what I was replying to!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22hanging+you+up+on+a+meat+hook%22+author%3Akmcvay%40shell.vex.net&start=0&num=30&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=18&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2006&safe=off&filter=0
Use: http://tinyurl.com/ku4x2 of the above link gets corrupted.
Searched all groups Results 1 - 30 of 43 for "hanging you up on a meat hook"
author:kmc...@shell.vex.net
(Archived locally as: McVay_OutOfContextSmear2)
How many more times are you going to spam the same dishonest out of context
quote McVay? Why don't you have the guts to quote me in actual context? Afraid
you'll lose the smear factor when the truth is known that I responded (most
likely) to one of your allies who posted a phoney child porn ad which gave out
my address and telephone number which you have admitted as making available from
your very own NIZKOR web site?
Here is just as deceitful Gord McFee following your lead:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/74f238aac8a373ec?fwc=1
From: Gord McFee <gord....@rogers.com>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Bradbury Spews Again
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:39:38 -0500
Message-ID: <11vd28v...@corp.supernews.com>
In-Reply-To: <oqqav1h7n223hmohh...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/c830d8829e65eb65?fwc=1
Continually spamming out of context quotes concocted by Liar Sara Salzman still
do not negate the fact that Sara is a pathological liar. Anyone clicking the
links I provided above will see you for what you are Gourd!
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:39:38 -0500, <11vd28v...@corp.supernews.com> Gord
McFee <gord....@rogers.com> wrote:
>On 2/17/2006 1:42 AM, Ward Cleaver wrote:
>
>> From: Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net>
>> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> Subject: Bradbury Spews Again
>> References: <0e2a9fd24cea6a73...@pseudo.borked.net>
>> <pkb1v19ppthssmv91...@4ax.com> <szkwtfy...@fnord.io.com>
>> <7a38v1toi2939lrfi...@4ax.com>
>> <catamont-4D31FD...@news.giganews.com>
>> <0d4av15ldb5pg9pgd...@4ax.com>
>> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.4 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:43:32 -0700
>> Message-ID: <catamont-ACF4D6...@news.giganews.com>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=catamont-ACF4D6...@news.giganews.com
>> OR http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/10855fd467dc7fc4?fwc=1
>> (Archived locally as: SDS-INFESTING_My_Humble_Town)
>>
>> This will be a supplement to my original post as proof as to how deluded you
>> truly are Sara!
>
>Speaking of deluded:
Your spam has been slam dunked Gourd so why don't you deal with the facts that
Sara Salzman is a pathological liar?
As usual you trot out the out of context one sided quotes every time I expose
you liars for what you are or when I expose your criminal acts to public
scrutiny. Your quoting me out of context is lying because you don't show the
other side of a two way exchange and what the person had done to me which
elicited my remarks you quote out of context. Just so the lurkers may get a
better handle on what a deceiver you are I will show them how to look up what
you continually quote out off context below!!
Attention lurkers to see the rest of the story as Paul Harvey would say just go
to this link: http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search and at the bottom
you will see a field which shows: "Message ID Lookup the message with message
ID _______________________________________________
(Example: moderated-ng-f...@swcp.com)" And in that window you
need only to Copy N Paste the Message IDs provided below to get an insight to
the deceit. The first Message ID is i73hfvcs93cff63fu...@4ax.com
which returns this link:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/b550c199a77357d5
And everyone read the text in true context and see what a deceitful persons my
opponents truly are! There is a mountain of difference between the in context
post I made and what the current liar now presents as smear!!!
>Scott Bradbury's Obsession with "Fisting"
>
>How am I obsessed with "fisting" just by posting what your fellow Jewish
>filth posted about her fisting herself?
>Message-ID: i73hfvcs93cff63fu...@4ax.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>SCOTT BRADBURY SAYS:
>
>"I don't rely on personal attacks as my means of posting and the bulk of
>my posts prove so! You can't discern the difference."
Still very true BUT why don't you show what I endured from your friends BEFORE I
made the remarks I made below which you always quote only as one sided? If
someone calls me names long enough or hurls insults long enough I will on
occasion "swing back" BUT after I refuted the "insulter" with my proofs.
I won't delete one single out of context quote and I will even turn your Message
IDs into GOOGLE links (new feature to make it easier for the lurker) so everyone
may see for themselves what I was replying to with only one click!
>SCOTT BRADBURY DOES:
>
>"Just like Yids to fabricate lies hoping their victim gets harassed by
>law enforcement. Been down that road before you dirty kyke.
>
>Here is what I would like to do to you and which you sorely and truly
>deserve:
>1) Tie some piano wire around your neck in a hangman's noose and make a
>nice attachment loop at the other end
>2) Get out the old trusty block-and-tackle and A-Frame and erect such
>under a Mesquite tree on a hot Texas afternoon
>3) Once you are hoisted up and flopping like a fish then I would relish
>slowly whipping you to death for the vermin you are. I'd let the process
>last as long as possible.
>4) When you are dead then I would roast you over an open fire as a
>tribute to the rest of your fellow garbage which has been incinerated.
>
>Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
>would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
>I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
>then incinerate your remains."
>
>-- Message-ID: <43de165c....@news.tavish-central.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/fdb9b25cb879445?fwc=1
>-- Date: 1/30/2006 8:33 AM
That reply was made to a miscreant who posted a phoney child porn ad which gave
out my address and telephone number! Care to deny it? That reply was exercising
considerable restraint too. I would really like to put a bullet into his/her
skull instead!
Here is what I posted in true context so everyone may see what liars the people
are who are associated with The Nizkor Project (Kenneth McVay) and The Holocaust
History Project (Gord McFee and Sara Salzman) web sites:
<start/quote>
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 01:49:12 +0100 (CET), Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga
Remailer <nob...@cypherpunks.to> wrote:
>[CLASSIC REPOST]
I made no such post to begin with!
>WE WILL ALSO BE POSTING THEIR REPONSES ON NEWSGROUPS
>EVERY SINGLE EMAIL ADDRESS THAT IS IN AUSTIN COUNTY TEXAS WILL BE
>EMAILED THE FOLLOWING
You are adding grist to the mill. You have given me new inspiration to have
legal justice served on the filthy kyke who made your sort of criminal act
possible in the first place and that was by his making my unknown address and
telephone number public.
>My dearest Christian child lovers,
>I am a fan of child pornography and for the past 14 years, I have been
>able to gather quite a collection of it. I have pictures, VHS tapes,
>posters, audio recordings, and games based on child pornography. I am
>selling my products (or trading for other child pornography). I have a
>complete color catalog of all products now available. You can purchase
>pictures (both normal kodak and computer JPEG's). Also, you can
>purchase posters, VHS tapes, and audio recordings. There are many
>products and services. I have connections throughout the Catholic world.
>Here are some prices: (20% discount for NAMBLA members & Catholics)
>Complete Color Catalog (160 pages)...........................$5.00
>100 Pictures Little boys age 7-12................................$9.95
>120 Pictures Little boys age 13-17............................$11.95
>Boys posing in underwear in Sear's catalogs..............$13.95
>Boys giving Reverend McTavish their sexual confessions..$19.95
>VHS tape, little boys "Bath Time for Scottie"..............$49.95
>VHS tape, little boys "Happy B-day, Scottie"..............$49.95
>VHS tape, little boys "Heil Hitler, Scottie"...................$39.95
>Personalized Audio
>tape.............................................$2.99
>If you have child pornography, preferably little boys ages 7-9, I will
>trade or buy them from you. If they are action shots, of an adult with
>a little boy having sex, I am willing to trade big, or pay you a lot.
>Please write to me for more details. Thanks. You can send cash, checks,
>or money orders made out to CHILD FUN. Please send your order to:
>Fun With Children
>c/o Father McTavish
<Personal information deleted>
Just like Yids to fabricate lies hoping their victim gets harassed by law
enforcement. Been down that road before you dirty kyke.
Here is what I would like to do to you and which you sorely and truly deserve:
1) Tie some piano wire around your neck in a hangman's noose and make a nice
attachment loop at the other end
2) Get out the old trusty block-and-tackle and A-Frame and erect such under a
Mesquite tree on a hot Texas afternoon
3) Once you are hoisted up and flopping like a fish then I would relish slowly
whipping you to death for the vermin you are. I'd let the process last as long
as possible.
4) When you are dead then I would roast you over an open fire as a tribute to
the rest of your fellow garbage which has been incinerated.
Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered would
be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you I would cover
your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and then incinerate your
remains.
>You can also call in with your credit card numbers, but I can not
>accept American Express cards. Thanks, and hope to hear from you. God
>bless you.
Typical Kyke Behavior = TKB
<end/quote>
McVay and Company approve of such devilish conduct and for a fact McVay was an
accomplice to making such harassment and defamation possible by also
distributing my address and telephone number!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/654010afecea3674?fwc=1
Subject: Canadian Based Nizkor.Org Has INCITED Criminal Acts aka Re: McVay
continues to threaten William Grosvenor V2.0 T_1001
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:59:16 -0500
Message-ID: <82gtj19rh5einm70m...@4ax.com>
Excerpt:
Here is Ken McVay admitting that he had my unlisted telephone number and
unlisted address at his website known as Nizkor and notice some of his
self incriminating remarks!
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/a07715ed5da6f0bc
(Archived locally as: McVayWieldedWeapon_1)
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Subject: Re: Andrew spams again
Date: 1999/12/16
^^^^^^^^^^
<<Tavish comment: Notice that date!? It proves Yale had my info from my ISP on
that date!>>
Message-ID: <83bbpm$2jk4$1...@news.tht.net>
References: <38570B78...@btinternet.com>
X-Trace: news.tht.net 945369718 85636 216.126.72.25 (16 Dec 1999 18:41:58 GMT)
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.revisionism
X-Complaints-To: scr...@hub.org
[...]
To be fair, one should also ask how nazihunter got the name and
address in the first place, shouldn't one?
Yale Edeiken distributed it to a holocaust-history.org mailing list,
and to a few, including me, outside the list. If you are going to
condemn nazihunter, as you properly are, then should you not also ask
what Yale hoped to achieve by distributing the address in the first
place?
I posted it on Nizkor for about 90 minutes, until I realized, on
reflection, that it was the wrong thing to do, and deleted it... so,
in the end, it could have come from anywhere... but it originated with
someone who should have known better, as he himself had been the
target of a similar attack.
[...]
If that is what you feel Mr. Edeiken meant to achieve, that is your
opinion, one I am not prepared to share.
However, I think it would have been hypocritical of me to remain silent,
all the while knowing where the information came from, while others were
being justifiably pilloried for making improper use of it.
Who is to be blamed more? The person wielding the weapon, or the one
who provided it? You tell me.
[Posted and emailed]
--
The Nizkor Project An Electronic Holocaust Education Resource
Ken McVay, Director http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
NetMeeting: Ken McVay ICQ: 7015822
~~~End of DejaCom Archival Excerpt~~~
Remember Ken- you did say: "Who is to be blamed more? The person wielding
the weapon, or the one who provided it?" and your organization has
provided the weapon numerous times!
For a fact my address and telephone number was only obtained by a forged
subpoena issued bey a very unethical kyke named Yale F. Edeiken who has been
disciplined by the Disciplinary Board of the Supreme Court of state three times
with PUBLIC CENSURE as being the latest!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/393e3320dd44fda3?fwc=1
Subject: ...Forging Subpoenas and Fabrication of Evidence? Aren't Those Criminal
Acts?...
Message-ID: <d06sj1h7s0d7hte8d...@4ax.com>
Date: 1 Oct 2005 05:06:24 GMT
http://www.clr.org/pa.html (Archived locally as: clr-org_pa)
Judicial/Attorney Misconduct in Pennsylvania
Following are some of the attorneys or judges who have been reported to
have been disciplined by the State of Pennsylvania for unethical conduct, who
may be a resident of the State of Pennsylvania but was disciplined in another
jurisdiction, transferred to inactive status, sued for malpractice,
incarcerated, whom we understand have been charged with unethical conduct, have
engaged in conduct which tends to defeat the administration of justice, or to
bring the courts and the legal business into disrepute, etc.
[...]
Yale F. Edeiken --Attorney at Law - Supreme Court ID# 40290 (Allentown, PA)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a fact Yale F. Edeiken was "disciplined"
http://padisciplinaryboard.org/attdiscdcd.php?id=40290
(Link active October 29, 2003. Archived locally as: shyster_censured)
Attorney ID - 40290
Edeiken, Yale F.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court Attorney Inquiry
Attorney ID Case County District
40290 122 DB 95 Lehigh II Public Censure Administered 10/20/98
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PER CURIAM:
AND NOW, this 20th day of April, 1998, upon consideration of the Report and
Recommendations of the Disciplinary Board dated February 26, 1998, it is hereby
ORDERED that Yale F. Edeiken, Esquire be subjected to a PUBLIC CENSURE by the
Supreme Court.
It is further ORDERED that Respondent shall pay costs to the Disciplinary
Board pursuant to Rule 208(g), Pa.R.D.E.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Click this link for the full details of Yale's PUBLIC CENSURE and criminal
conviction for assaulting a female deputy sheriff:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/f5d4bc00ccc94682?fwc=1
Subject: Yale F. Edeiken PUBLIC CENSURE Text and Links V5-0 U_0126
Message-ID: <gloit1db06oudvvtl...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jan 2006 23:57:56 GMT
Kenneth McVay also likes quoting fabricated evidence as being factual:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7b61fed6f1b4c516?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V4.0 T_1220
Message-ID: <msohq1ltuiv3fdvpr...@4ax.com>
Date: 21 Dec 2005 05:29:58 GMT
~~Sara Salzman's Out of Context Quotes Exposed for Their Malicious Deceit~~
http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bf4d3308dad101f4&_done=/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bf4d3308dad101f4
Click the link above and do as instructed to have all links and e-mail addresses
properly restored.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/bf4d3308dad101f4?fwc=1
Subject: Re: Bradbury Spews Again
Message-ID: <gurdv157iovh3tvas...@4ax.com>
Date: 18 Feb 2006 10:02:57 GMT
How can a web site be deemed credible when it blatantly distorts the truth and
spreads lies?
How can Nizkor have credibility when its director Kenneth McVay is so deceitful
about his funding?
I.E.
~~Ken McVay Lying About His Financing Via S.A.A.F. Nizkor Fund~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/19272a44fd2c3cec?fwc=1
From: kmc...@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Subject: STILL Waiting for Donnie..... (Or "Bradbury: Wrong Again")
Date: 5 Jan 2001 00:32:08 GMT
Organization: The Nizkor Project
Message-ID: <9334m8$1nm1$1...@news.tht.net>
(Archived locally as: McVayEXHIBIT1)
Mr. Bradbury, wishing to demonstrate how ill-equipped he is to deal with
evidence of any sort... What Mr. Bradbury has failed to demonstrate is that The
Nizkor Project, which I direct, has any association whatsoever with the "San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund." That is because Mr. Bradbury is not very
bright... Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"
<end/quote>
As for Ken McVay's three bold faced lies: "(Lie 1) What Mr. Bradbury has failed
to demonstrate is that The Nizkor Project, which I direct, (Lie 2) has any
association whatsoever with the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund...
(Lie 3) Neither The Nizkor Project nor Ken McVay has ever received any money
from the "San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund."- I now prove McVay told
three lies with his own words:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/7ed1cee6db046212
(Archived locally as: SAAF_3)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: American funding for the Nizkor Project
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvl6g$c...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
organization: The Nizkor Project
In the United States, checks in support of the work of The
Nizkor Project should be made payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e6e8f845002483a1
(Archived locally as: SAAF_1)
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: The Nizkor Project appreciates your support
Date: 1996/09/05
Message-ID: <50n608$9...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
x-network: http://www.nizkor.org/
organization: The Nizkor Project
..In the United States, checks should be made payable to:
"SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund"
and should be mailed to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
We thank all of you who have sent your donations in support of the Nizkor
Project. The funds you have provided have been used to provide substantial
improvements in service.
<end/quote>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
From: kmc...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$a...@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
In article <31c2fa3a...@news.annap.infi.net>,
h...@annap.infi.net (Horst Kleinsorg) wrote:
>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.
Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work... In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
and mail them to:
San Antonio Area Foundation
Nizkor Fund
P.O. Box 120366
San Antonio, TX 78212-9566
...By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
<end/quote>
"[W]hen you're living a lie, the lie has to get more complicated-they're always
contradicting themselves...so that the lie itself becomes self-evident."
-- Ken McVay, director of the Nizkor Project
http://www.peacemagazine.org/fulltext/all-vol13no2.html
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: peacenik13_2)
The above quoted from:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director
Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF
Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
I don't have to resort to quoting people out of context like McVay and Company
do!
Tavish
----NIZKOR.ORG'S Ken McVay's Numerous Documented Lies Regarding His Funding----
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor Director
Ken McVay is Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF
Reports are Further Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: <rhj6t1td1dmi44dv1...@4ax.com>
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
Three Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund -- Some New Archives
and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0 T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r...@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!) V3.0 Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: <vd4sb1d8mo7qs9np0...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally Owned and
Controlled by Jews v3.0 U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: <bn2mv1hbjmt23kh5l...@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/ab.general/msg/5c06fd75fb21497d?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor LHR Fund; Just Another Self Serving FUND Like the Nizkor
Endowment and Trust Funds? V2.0 T_1002
Message-ID: <k991k1lr0j9n5n15i...@4ax.com>
Date: 3 Oct 2005 03:33:01 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? You All be
the Judges! V2-0 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
(Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both be
renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing
how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by Kenneth McVay from a
back room of his personal residence. McVay is the sole recipient and beneficiary
of those two "bogus" funds!)
Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his defense of McVay;
he's evidently getting some of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken Lewis
Benefitting from McVay's Funding Scams? V2.0 T_1227
Message-ID: <ks64r157pj30mgsn9...@4ax.com>
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam
V2.0 Message-ID: <s45sb1lsas4r52dtu...@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
(The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently
perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which
B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax free even
though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations. This is
more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)
B'nai Brith has also funded communist David Lethbridge:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/3f69fd5466002fcd?fwc=1
Subject: B'nai Brith Allies Itself With Communist David Lethbridge Against
America, Capitalism, and Christianity V3.0 T_0929
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 06:54:57 -0500
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Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
in message <hmjp12191f6maopbb...@4ax.com>:
>--
>"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
>would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
>I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
>then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
>Your current record as of March 18, 2006 shows you posted the same out of
>context deceit 43 times and you know full well what I was replying to!
Which does not change the fact that you wrote exactly what is quoted,
by your own admission.
That someone else said something else doesn't change that one iota.
Now, about that $10k you owe me, lard ass?
Herr Doktor Tavische
So you approve of forged child porn ads I take it?
~~Ken McVay Misquotes My Reply to Coward who Posted Phoney Child Porn Ad~~
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/c245f947fa0deccb?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project's Kenneth McVay's Out of Context Smear Answered -
McVay is a Liar and an Agent of Smear
Message-ID: <hmjp12191f6maopbb...@4ax.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2006 03:19:27 GMT
Brief excerpt:
From: kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:34:11 -0000
Message-ID: <121oo5j...@corp.supernews.com>
--
"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
<end>
Your current record as of March 18, 2006 shows you posted the same out of
context deceit 43 times and you know full well what I was replying to!
Use: http://tinyurl.com/ku4x2 of the above link gets corrupted.
Searched all groups Results 1 - 30 of 43 for "hanging you up on a meat hook"
author:kmc...@shell.vex.net
(Archived locally as: McVay_OutOfContextSmear2)
How many more times are you going to spam the same dishonest out of context
quote McVay? Why don't you have the guts to quote me in actual context? Afraid
you'll lose the smear factor when the truth is known that I responded (most
likely) to one of your allies who posted a phoney child porn ad which gave out
my address and telephone number which you have admitted as making available from
your very own NIZKOR web site?... The actual context may be seen here:
Message-ID: <43de165c....@news.tavish-central.net>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/fdb9b25cb879445?fwc=1
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"Quoting out of Context
If you quote someone, but select the quotation so that essential context
is not available and therefore the person's views are distorted, then you've
quoted "out of context." Quoting out of context in an argument creates a straw
man fallacy.
Example:
Smith: I've been reading about a peculiar game in this article about
vegetarianism. When we play this game, we lean out from a fourth-story window
and drop down strings containing "Free food" signs on the end in order to hook
unsuspecting passers-by. It's really outrageous, isn't it? Yet isn't that
precisely what sports fishermen do for entertainment from their fishing boats?
The article says it's time we put an end to sport fishing.
Jones: Let me quote Smith for you. He says "We...hook unsuspecting passers-by."
What sort of moral monster is this man Smith?
Jones's selective quotation is fallacious because it makes Smith appear to
advocate this immoral activity when the context makes it clear that he doesn't."
http://www.iep.utm.edu/f/fallacies.htm#top (Archived locally as: Fallacies)
"Moore ethics at UVSC
September 19, 2004
Michael Moore's visit to campus has been lauded as getting a big name
and getting a draw. His politics are characterized as liberal and left wing and
the cost has the appearance of exorbitance. Yet none of these are reasons to
object to his coming. The reasons to object reside in his blatant lies, in his
twisting of the truth and calling it a documentary. It is not that I disagree
with his politics (though in fairness, I do) that prompts this response: I
disagree with bringing to our campus a blatant, one sided, unscrupulous
propagandist whose use of free speech has abandoned the ethical limits that make
free speech valuable, and to paying him a huge fee and saying it is in the
interest of being even handed or that it teaches skillful filmmaking. Such
positions are untenable on their face.
I object to bringing someone here who has been documented, in at least
60 specific instances in Fahrenheit 9/11 by at least a dozen reputable writers
and researchers, as lying, misinterpreting, misquoting and quoting out of
context, and then using the results as his stock in trade. Moore has gained his
notoriety by skillful lying. He has done so in a medium that evidently has
almost no limits on propriety. He presents bits of truth mixed with lies and
innuendo. He provokes situations with unprepared individuals and then edits his
film to make his victims look foolish and inserts comments that twist the
presentation...
We at UVSC claim a great deal of identity based on our ethics program,
and now we have invited a guest whose behavior has all the appearance of being
antithetical to one of our foundations, one even lauded in our proposed mission
statement. Being a big name and a draw is not enough. Fairness; yes. Two sides,
even one-sided at a time; sure. But at least let them have a foundational ethic
that allows us to deal rationally with them. It is not a matter of bringing in
another point of view: it is a matter of bringing in a liar.
Paul Tanner, Ph.D.
Department of English and Literature" <end>
http://www.netxnews.net/vnews/display.v?TARGET=printable&article_id=414f27248cc6e
(Archived locally as: OutOfContextLying)
Tavish
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Herr Doktor Tavische wrote
>On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:24:19 GMT, <fotq129oaagsfb1l0...@4ax.com>
>Roger <roger@.> wrote:
>>>--
>>>"Perhaps hanging you up on a meat hook like a swine ready to be butchered
>>>would be better than using piano wire and instead of just cremating you
>>>I would cover your carcass in swine feces as a tribute to your kind and
>>>then incinerate your remains." (Scott Bradbury, Revisionist Scholar)
>>>Your current record as of March 18, 2006 shows you posted the same out of
>>>context deceit 43 times and you know full well what I was replying to!
>>Which does not change the fact that you wrote exactly what is quoted,
>>by your own admission.
>>
>>That someone else said something else doesn't change that one iota.
>So you approve of forged child porn ads I take it?
No, I don't.
But publishing such threats does nothing useful toward responding to
such.
Now, about that $10k you owe me?