Global Warming lies uncovered, or ...how the sky suddenly stopped falling
Steve
By James Delingpole
If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start
dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global
Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and
quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at
the University of East Anglia�s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU)
and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet.
(Hat tip: Watts Up With That)
When you read some of those files � including 1079 emails and 72
documents � you realise just why the boffins at Hadley CRU might have
preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this
scandal could well be �the greatest in modern science�. These alleged
emails � supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists
pushing AGW theory � suggest:
Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly
illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance
to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in
their public claims and much more.
One of the alleged emails has a gentle gloat over the death in 2004 of
John L Daly (one of the first climate change sceptics, founder of the
Still Waiting For Greenhouse site), commenting:
�In an odd way this is cheering news.�
But perhaps the most damaging revelations � the scientific equivalent
of the Telegraph�s MPs� expenses scandal � are those concerning the
way Warmist scientists may variously have manipulated or suppressed
evidence in order to support their cause.
Here are a few tasters. (So far, we can only refer to them as alleged
emails because � though Hadley CRU�s director Phil Jones has confirmed
the break-in to Ian Wishart at the Briefing Room � he has yet to fess
up to any specific contents.) But if genuine, they suggest dubious
practices such as:
Manipulation of evidence:
I�ve just completed Mike�s Nature trick of adding in the real
temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd
from 1961 for Keith�s to hide the decline.
Private doubts about whether the world really is heating up:
The fact is that we can�t account for the lack of warming at the
moment and it is a travesty that we can�t. The CERES data published in
the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more
warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is
inadequate.
Suppression of evidence:
Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
Keith will do likewise. He�s not in at the moment � minor family
crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don�t have
his new email address.
We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
Fantasies of violence against prominent Climate Sceptic scientists:
Next
time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I�ll be tempted
to beat
the crap out of him. Very tempted.
Attempts to disguise the inconvenient truth of the Medieval Warm
Period (MWP):
��Phil and I have recently submitted a paper using about a dozen
NH records that fit this category, and many of which are available
nearly 2K back�I think that trying to adopt a timeframe of 2K, rather
than the usual 1K, addresses a good earlier point that Peck made w/
regard to the memo, that it would be nice to try to �contain� the
putative �MWP�, even if we don�t yet have a hemispheric mean
reconstruction available that far back�.
And, perhaps most reprehensibly, a long series of communications
discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer
review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific climate in
which anyone who disagrees with AGW can be written off as a crank,
whose views do not have a scrap of authority.
�This was the danger of always criticising the skeptics for not
publishing in the �peer-reviewed literature�. Obviously, they found a
solution to that�take over a journal! So what do we do about this? I
think we have to stop considering �Climate Research� as a legitimate
peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in
the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers
in, this journal. We would also need to consider what we tell or
request of our more reasonable colleagues who currently sit on the
editorial board�What do others think?�
�I will be emailing the journal to tell them I�m having nothing
more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome
editor.��It results from this journal having a number of editors. The
responsible one for this is a well-known skeptic in NZ. He has let a
few papers through by Michaels and Gray in the past. I�ve had words
with Hans von Storch about this, but got nowhere. Another thing to
discuss in Nice !�
Hadley CRU has form in this regard. In September � I wrote the story
up here as �How the global warming industry is based on a massive lie�
� Hadley CRU�s researchers were exposed as having �cherry-picked� data
in order to support their untrue claim that global temperatures had
risen higher at the end of the 20th century than at any time in the
last millenium. Hadley CRU was also the organisation which � in
contravention of all acceptable behaviour in the international
scientific community � spent years withholding data from researchers
it deemed unhelpful to its cause. This matters because Hadley CRU,
established in 1990 by the Met Office, is a government-funded body
which is supposed to be a model of rectitude. Its HadCrut record is
one of the four official sources of global temperature data used by
the IPCC.
I asked in my title whether this will be the final nail in the coffin
of Anthropenic Global Warming. This was wishful thinking, of course.
In the run up to Copenhagen, we will see more and more hysterical (and
grotesquely exaggerated) stories such as this in the Mainstream Media.
And we will see ever-more-virulent campaigns conducted by eco-fascist
activists, such as this risible new advertising campaign by Plane
Stupid showing CGI polar bears falling from the sky and exploding
because kind of, like, man, that�s sort of what happens whenever you
take another trip on an aeroplane.
The world is currently cooling; electorates are increasingly reluctant
to support eco-policies leading to more oppressive regulation, higher
taxes and higher utility bills; the tide is turning against Al Gore�s
Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. The so-called �sceptical� view is
now also the majority view.
Unfortunately, we�ve a long, long way to go before the public mood
(and scientific truth) is reflected by our policy makers. There are
too many vested interests in AGW, with far too much to lose either in
terms of reputation or money, for this to end without a bitter fight.
But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,it�s a blow to the AGW lobby�s
credibility which is never likely to recover.
America the Stupid
"Steve" <steven...@yahooooo.com> wrote in message
republick'em that don't lie ain't got nuttin' to say!
Baron_mind
>
> If you own any shares in alternative energy companies
Not that a convicted sexual predator with a malignant
narcissist personality disorder would even care..
> The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
> [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
> But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
It isn't..
--Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
tunderbar
You agwers are stupid. You are going to have to come up with a better
strategy pf accusations of lying. Especially when we have it proven
that your best scientists are liars, thieves and activists.
Steve
That doesn't matter to Lochner since he's a proven liar as well... and
he's also a proven drunkard and a deadbeat dad too.... as I
demonstrated by tricking him into the exchange below...
5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09
No, actually, you don't.
And his answers are about what that psychologically damaged child
molester deserves.
5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09
> They haven't learned it another way.
> 30 years ad hominem characterize.
> Be honest, give them another 30 years for cease swinging.
Can either of you communicate in normal English?
America the Stupid
"5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09" <de...@dead.com> wrote in message
news:PpydnSIy_fS6Y5bW...@posted.carinet...
On a side note, I've always been amused that the World Wildlife Fund beat
out the World Wrestling Federation for the use of the WWF trademark. The big
tough redneck wrestlers beat up by a bunch of tree-huggers.
I M @ good guy
wrote:
>On Nov 24, 8:30 am, Baron_mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
LLoyd mentioned UK emails being copyrighted,
that may really funny, somebody check it out, in the
US, publication is/was one of the factors in copyright. :-)
Steve
Awwww, poor fat Jamieson is still pissed because I outed the fact that
he's been permanently banned from US citizenship... and he joins in
with Lochner, who is pissed because I outed his being a deadbeat
dad... so both of the old alcoholics, (which I also outed) team up to
spread their lies about me... <LOL> which, BTW, don't seem to be
having any effect....
erschro...@gmail.com
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:48:56 -0800 (PST), tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com>
http://ask.metafilter.com/21732/email-copyright
http://www.netmanners.com/email-etiquette/online-copyright-myths/
(look at 7)
Baron_mind
>
> "utter, 'tard" <tdco...@gmail.com> whined futilely because:
>>
>> Baron_Mind was heckling the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>>>
>>> "senile, craven" was pompously posturing about:
---
>>>> The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
>>>> [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>>>
>>> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>>>
>>>> But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>>>
>>> It isn't..
>>>
>>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
>>
>
> That doesn't matter to Lochner
That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
knowledgeable about science..
--And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
Baron_mind
>
> Baron_Mind was exploiting the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>>
>> 'senile, craven" wrote:
>>>
>>> If you own any shares in alternative energy companies
>>
> > Not that a convicted sexual predator with a malignant
>> narcissist personality disorder would even care..
>>
>>> The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
>>> [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>>
>> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>>
>>> But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>>
>> It isn't..
>>
>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
>
> You agwers are stupid
You have no room to speak of such, because of your own stupidity..
> You are going to have to come up with a better strategy pf
> accusations of lying
That would be something you're incapable of, right?
Example follows..
> Especially when we have it proven that your best scientists
> are liars, thieves and activists.
Really? And you intend to prove this exactly how?
--Remember, your fetid imagination doesn't count..
Milt
> Steve wrote:
>
> > "utter, 'tard" <tdcom...@gmail.com> whined futilely because:
Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
Steve
wrote:
That's from Milt Shook who is too intellectually lazy to check out his
gut feelings before he posts them for all to see... such as:
"And if I sell stock, my asset level is reduced by the
amount of that stock, EVEN IF the stock I sell is sold
for more than I paid for it."
--Milt Shook.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/0f58111c6acb0ce8?hl=en&
"When you're (sic) margin is called, that's a liability, not an asset.
If you have an account with $100,000 in it, and you borrow $10,000 to
buy with, you only have $100,000 in assets; until you pay the loan,
that $10,000 is not an asset; it's a liability. When the margin is
called (for shits and giggles, let's say for the full amount of
$10,000), there is no way to say that you haven't lost $10,000. In
fact, you're actually out $20,000, because you're out the $10,000
for the loan and the $10,000 to call the margin."
-- Milt Shook Apr 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.impeach.bush/msg/a39f580c3012e718?hl=en&
"It doesn't matter if it's state property or not; the state doesn't
have to power to limit access to a public area. They can charge to
access it, but they can't force people to have a state ID card or
something. It's right in the 14th Amendment; if you allow one person
to get in for free, then all people have to be allowed in for free, if
it's public property."
--Milt Shook.. more ignorance of the law
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/83e117a21b818c9b
"And one of the ironies of this entire discussion is that a company
that pays corporate income taxes one year can deduct them as a
business expense the next.
--Milt Shook, who claims to have been a business consultant.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/b0151278e691117b.
"If he deposits the money in
the [Roth] IRA, he has to list it on his 1040. If he didn't pay tax on
the money before, he'll have to pay tax on it now."
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/45b74f442baec084?hl=en
"And Roth's don't pay shit in interest these days."
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/1434b188779dea12?hl=en
Baron_mind
>
> Baron_Mind was amused by the histrionics exhibited desperately by:
>>
>> "senile, craven" continued his cowardly, impotent whining with:
>>>
>>> "utter, 'tard" <tdco...@gmail.com> whined futilely because:
>>>>
>>>> Baron_Mind was heckling the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>>>>>
>>>>> "senile, craven" was pompously posturing about:
>>>>>> The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
>>>>>> [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>>>>>
>>>>>> But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>>>>>
>>>>> It isn't..
>>>>>
>>>>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
>>>>
>>>> You agwers are stupid. You are going to have to[..]
>>>
>>> That doesn't matter to Lochner
>>
>> That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
>> more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
>> who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
>> knowledgeable about science..
>>
>> --And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
>
> Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
> the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
> chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
> intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
Let's just say that he's really had to work at achieving
that distinction, and with a little luck he might just
discover what a second-rate asshole he really is..
--Once he stops his pathetic and envious sniveling..
Milt
> Milt wrote:
>
> > Baron_Mind was amused by the histrionics exhibited desperately by:
>
> >> "senile, craven" continued his cowardly, impotent whining with:
>
>
> >>>> Baron_Mind was heckling the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>
> >>>>> "senile, craven" was pompously posturing about:
> -----
> >>>>>> The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
> >>>>>> [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>
> >>>>> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>
> >>>>>> But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>
> >>>>> It isn't..
>
> >>>>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
>
> >>>> You agwers are stupid. You are going to have to[..]
>
> >>> That doesn't matter to Lochner
>
> >> That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
> >> more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
> >> who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
> >> knowledgeable about science..
>
> >> --And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
>
> > Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
> > the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
> > chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
> > intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
>
> Let's just say that he's really had to work at achieving
> that distinction, and with a little luck he might just
> discover what a second-rate asshole he really is..
>
> --Once he stops his pathetic and envious sniveling..
He's a third-rate mind jammed into a first-rate asshole...
Baron_mind
>
> Baron_Mind replied:
>>
>> Milt wrote:
>>>
>>> Baron_Mind was amused by the histrionics exhibited desperately by:
>>>>
>>>> "senile, craven" continued his cowardly, impotent whining with:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Baron_Mind was heckling the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "senile, craven" was pompously posturing about:
-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You agwers are stupid. You are going to have to[..]
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't matter to Lochner
>>>>
>>>> That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
>>>> more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
>>>> who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
>>>> knowledgeable about science..
>>>>
>>>> --And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
>>>
>>> Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
>>> the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
>>> chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
>>> intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
>>
>> Let's just say that he's really had to work at achieving
>> that distinction, and with a little luck he might just
>> discover what a second-rate asshole he really is..
>>
>> --Once he stops his pathetic and envious sniveling..
>
> He's a third-rate mind jammed into a first-rate asshole...
I wouldn't be that generous, actually..
--Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, sir..
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 10:43�am, Baron_mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
That's from Milt Shook who says:
"The theories of gravity vary, but a widely quoted one is the one that
relates it to the earth's spinning motion. As the theory goes, if the
earth stopped spinning, presumably everything would go floating off
into space."
--Milt Shook Jul 22, 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/95c90721b77120c9?hl=en
Baron_mind
>
> Milt was replying to:
>>
>> Baron_Mind commented:
Guess which way the acceleration vector is pointing, Stephie..
--Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, sparky?
Milt
See what I mean? He doesn't even understand when he's making a
complete ass of himself.
5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09
He doesn't care, just so long as he's getting attention from his betters.
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 12:58�pm, Baron_mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
<ROTFL> That bit of illogical nonsense is from the deadbeat dad, Kurt
Lochner, who once pretended that he had a degree in physics..
>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, sparky?
>
>See what I mean? He doesn't even understand when he's making a
>complete ass of himself.
Irony anyone? See below
Milt has dated people we would die to meet.....
....yet he hasn't been on a date since high school....
..but he has been in relationships with some wonderful women...
...yet he has remained outside of a relationship for most of
the last 6 years.....
"I've DATED people that you would die to meet."
--Milt.Shook... Jul 4 1997
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.right-wing-conservatives/msg/d2ff681c7865876d?hl=en&
"I have been in relationships with some wonderful women, and I haven't
been
oon(sic) a "date" since high school. "
--Milt.Shook. Jul 1 1997,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.romance.chat/msg/4f3c301996aacded
"I, too, have remained outside of a relationship for most of
the last 6 years."
--Milt.Shook. May 19 1997,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.romance/msg/38d18b9a23d84a68
"I'm shy, too, obviously, or I wouldn't even look at this newsgroup"
--.Milt Shook..Feb 28 1996 in alt.support.shyness
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.shyness/msg/23782fe7330ab04a?hl=en&
Matt
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:09:48 -0800 (PST), Milt <milt.sh...@gmail.com>
Entries for Kurt Lochner, Physics: 2.
Entries for Steve Canyon, Physics: 0.
Entries for Steve Canyon, Philosophy: 0
Entries for Steve Canyon, Psychotic: 3.
Yes, I think we have it covered now "Steve". Tell Mom you aren't
allowed to post anymore. No more lies, no more crap, no more
anything.
If you can't post your name, address and degree, don't respond unless
you are a complete idiot.
Matt Telles
Mineral Engineering Mathematics, Colorado School of Mines 1984
Software Development Engineer in Test, Microsoft 2009
Phlip
> Software Development Engineer in Test, Microsoft 2009
nothing personal but...
...BLEAH !
Matt
> > Matt Telles
> > Software Development Engineer in Test, Microsoft 2009
>
> nothing personal but...
>
> ...BLEAH !
Sorry. Worked for most Linux firms, most mainframe firms, most
startups.
I have experience with mainframes, Linux, MS-DOS, Windows, Google
and every other O/S and development system. I predate Microsoft, and
have extensive experience with programming languages you've never
heard
of. Microsoft has really good benefits and is a leader in the
industry, even if
I have to drag them, kicking and screaming, into it.
Matt
Phlip
> Microsoft has really good benefits and is a leader in the
> industry, even if
> I have to drag them, kicking and screaming, into it.
That's what they all say.
C-:
Matt
I started in the industry in 1984. If you have something to offer
to change things, as I have done in the last 25 years, please
feel free to ofer it.
Or, to put it a different way... been there done that.
Matt
Steve
Microsoft is like toilet paper.. Yoiu can't live without it, but you
always need to wash your hands after using it....
Milt
answers or not.
Milt
Hey, don't apologize... Windows 7 rocks. If only Firefox could catch
up and stop crashing...
Matt
Stunningly, he responded anyway. So, we've established his idiocy by
his own definition. What a surprise.
Matt
Milt
Seriously.... no need to apologize... For the last 12 years, I've done
legal work for some huge corporations that would make any
progressives' skin crawl. (And no; I can't tell you who...) We do what
we have to do to provide for our families... MS doesn't do anything
illegal, at least in the US... :)
Steve
Here's matt's ignorant claims...
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
refers to your OPERATING SYSTEM?
--Matt Telles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/79a81af7d0288a0b?hl=en
"My favorite, which nobody apparently called him
on, was that he is "running XP", from the header
of his post. This, I guess, he got from the
UserAgent string in the headers, which simply
shows what program he's posting from."
--Matt Telles
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/0c55603ef82337aa?hl=en
Here's Milt's ignorant claim:
"Just to clarify, for all who are watching and aren't The Stalker,
[windows NT 5.1 in the user agent string] clarifies which version of
FIREFOX he's using, not the operating system.
...and here's the Microsoft Developer Network website that
proves them wrong...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537503.aspx#UnderstandUA
"The user-agent string can contain optional details called tokens,
which must be enclosed in parentheses and vary among programs.
Internet Explorer uses tokens to describe additional details about
your computer system."
"Platform tokens describe your operating system. The following table
lists Internet Explorer platform tokens for the last several versions
of Windows."
Platform token Description
Windows NT 6.0 Windows Vista
Windows NT 5.1 Windows XP
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 6:45�pm, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
Go back to firefox 3.015, dummy.. firefox 3.5 and wondoes7 don't mix
"I like women, and I'm marrying one in a few
months... "
--Milt Shook Wed, Jul 28 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/ae45d6c0cd6c1cb6?hl=en&
Canyon note: It appears that Milt had neglected to ask her about it...
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 6:30�pm, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 7:26�pm, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
OH gawd.. Milt can't even do legal work for himself...
"Bush can pardon ANYONE for ANYTHING. The purpose of the pardon power in the first place was so that the president would have the power to right a judicial wrong, even at the state level. Since probably at least 90% or more of crime is prosecuted at the state level, it wouldn't make sense to only give him the power to pardon federal
crimes."
--Milt Shook claiming that Bush could pardon OJ Simpson.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/4f4fe748216d1e2e?hl=en
"Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such
as those obtained in the United States District Courts, may be
pardoned by the President."
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/pardon_instructions.htm
http://www.democrats.com/pardon-faq
There are only two restrictions on the President's pardon power:
1. He can only pardon "offences against the United States," in
other words federal crimes. He cannot pardon state/local crimes or
civil lawsuits or international crimes.
2. He cannot pardon in a "case of impeachment."
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Participating-Political-Process-2149/Presidential-pardons.htm
The President only has authority to pardon federal crimes. He has no authority to pardon state crimes, nor international crimes, such as
war crimes.
http://www.clm.com/publication.cfm/ID/155
The President can pardon any individual convicted of a federal crime. Individuals convicted of state crimes must receive pardons from the appropriate state governor.
Matt
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:02:45 -0800 (PST), Matt
>
>
>
>
>
That you are a complete idiot? No, you proved that by yourself.
Thanks!
Steve: I'm a complete idiot, because I can't read and can't reply.
Matt
Steve
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
Steve
Zepp should worry less about me and more about who sent me that funny
picture (video actually) of him waddling around wearing depends...
I figure it's time to start considering legal action
against this little stalker.
--David B.(Zepp) Jamieson 2 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/b503459d6b2db5b2?hl=en&
Matt
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:12:19 -0800 (PST), Matt
>
>
>
>
>
End of discussion. Steve is an idiot.
Matt
Steve
Don't be bitter, Matt. I actually gave you a chance... but you
insisted on demonstrating your ignorance....
Here's matt's ignorant claims...
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
Milt
No shit. I'm shocked.
Phlip
> dumping them NOW.
What boundless idiocy!
Is global warming the ONLY reason to not blow Saudi cock, now?
Matt
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:51:11 -0800 (PST), Matt
>
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Don't be bitter Steve, you ARE an idiot. You were given every chance
to answer the question and FAILED. What a surprise.
Matt
Baron_mind
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>> Baron_Mind continuied exploiting the deliberate dishonesty of:
>>>
>>> "senile, craven" continued exposing his ambitious ignorance:
>>>>
>>>> Milt was replying to:
>>>>>
>>>>> Baron_Mind commented:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Milt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Baron_Mind was amused by the histrionics exhibited desperately by:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "senile, craven" continued his cowardly, impotent whining with:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "utter, 'tard" <tdcom...@gmail.com> whined futilely because:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Baron_Mind was heckling the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "senile, craven" was pompously posturing about:
>>>>>>>>>>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You agwers are stupid. You are going to have to[..]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter to Lochner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
>>>>>>>> more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
>>>>>>>> who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
>>>>>>>> knowledgeable about science..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
>>>>>>> chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
>>>>>>> intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's just say that he's really had to work at achieving
>>>>>> that distinction, and with a little luck he might just
>>>>>> discover what a second-rate asshole he really is..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Once he stops his pathetic and envious sniveling..
>>>>>
>>>>> He's a third-rate mind jammed into a first-rate asshole...
>>>>
>>>> That's from Milt Shook who says:
>>>> "The theories of gravity vary, but a widely quoted one is
>>>> the one that relates it to the earth's spinning motion
>>>
>>> Guess which way the acceleration vector is pointing, Stephie..
>
> <ROTFL> That bit of illogical nonsense
You aren't even familiar with college freshman physics, are you?
--Not that I was surprised by your evasions and lies..
Steve
<ROTFL> Lochner's physics degree must've come out of the copy
machine if he agrees with Shook's nonsense about gravity having
anything to do with the spinning of the Earth...
"The theories of gravity vary, but a widely quoted one is the one that
relates it to the earth's spinning motion.
--Milt Shook Jul 22, 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/95c90721b77120c9?hl=en
>Entries for Kurt Lochner, Physics: 2.
>Entries for Steve Canyon, Physics: 0.
>Entries for Steve Canyon, Philosophy: 0
>Entries for Steve Canyon, Psychotic: 3.
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>Yes, I think we have it covered now "Steve". Tell Mom you aren't
>allowed to post anymore. No more lies, no more crap, no more
>anything.
>
>If you can't post your name, address and degree, don't respond unless
>you are a complete idiot.
Now dumb-ass Matt seems to believe that he has some authority around
here...
>Matt Telles
>Mineral Engineering Mathematics, Colorado School of Mines 1984
>Software Development Engineer in Test, Microsoft 2009
>
Too bad that your education and job wasn't enough to keep you from
spouting off about things you are ignorant about, Matt.
For instance:
"As the wattage increases, the loss decreases.
I didn't quite believe this either, but was pointed
at some good evidence of this.
In fact, it makes sense to a certain degree, the
lossage becomes insignificant quickly."
--mattt...@sprynet.com Apr 29, 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/d8ff3e51e76c1f45
...and BTW, Matt, have you figured out what a platform token is in the
header of a browser? If not, maybe you could find a jr high student
to fill you in about that...
Steve
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
Steve
That's from the admitted alcoholic, deadbeat dad, Kurt Lochner, who
thinks that DC power lines have inductive reactance...
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 8:51�pm, Matt <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote:
"Bush can pardon ANYONE for ANYTHING. The purpose of the pardon power in the first place was so that the president would have the power to right a judicial wrong, even at the state level. Since probably at least 90% or more of crime is prosecuted at the state level, it wouldn't make sense to only give him the power to pardon federal
Milt
His specialty is Google search physics...
Steve
wrote:
>On Nov 26, 3:18�am, Baron_mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
Milt's specialty is making up stories about himself. His need to do
all that pretence demonstrates that underneath his bluster, he knows
what a miserable failure he is... It's too bad that even with that
understanding, he isn't capable of changing.
Milt Shook is too stupid to find out what a Congressional
page does before claiming to have been one....
"I was a Senate Page for two years when I went to HS in Maryland.
Why is that hard to believe?"
--Milt.Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics/msg/45a41b2be7278eed?&q=senate+page
"I was a page for someone on the judiciary committee at the time,"
--Milt Shook Dec 7 1996
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics/msg/bb35672e77b8808a
Canyon Note:
Shook is apparently unaware that congressional pages don't work for
any individual Congressperson.
"Of course, between commuting an hour each way to and from the
Capitol every day, and trying to keep up with my studies in
high school, and play JV football (I was "too skinny" for
varsity, according to my moronic coach), and a few other
extra curricular activities, I wouldn't have had much time
for that, anyway. Especially after I blew out my knee in the
fourth game of the season... damn... "
--Milt Shook,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/d4fb757cb481a5c2
Canyon Note:
Shook is apparently unaware that congressional pages attend
school mornings and evenings at the Capital so they can attend
sessions of Congress and couldn't possibly continue going to his
hometown school, let alone take part in extra curricular
activities there...
"I was a [..Congressional..] page. Twice; and both
under unusual circumstances, especially the second time. "
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/f2f538a583cb79c3
Canyon note: Fantasies like that aren't unusual at all for Shook..
Matt
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:46:41 -0800 (PST), Matt
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And yet, oddly, Steve still refuses to answer the question. Those that
read
his drivel regularly know that once he's been shown to be wrong, he
immediately
goes on the attack with cut down comments, quotes taken out of context
and
other stupidity appropriate to his 12 year old mind.
Matt
Steve
Errrr , what question was that, Dummy?
Those that
>read
>his drivel regularly know that once he's been shown to be wrong, he
>immediately
>goes on the attack with cut down comments, quotes taken out of context
>and
>other stupidity appropriate to his 12 year old mind.
>
>Matt
Here's matt's ignorant claims...
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
Matt
You got yourself into a thread and don't even know why? God, you ARE
stupid, aren't you?
>
> Those that
>
> >read
> >his drivel regularly know that once he's been shown to be wrong, he
> >immediately
> >goes on the attack with cut down comments, quotes taken out of context
> >and
> >other stupidity appropriate to his 12 year old mind.
>
> >Matt
>
> Here's matt's ignorant claims...
And the 12 year old continues with his usual pattern of lies and
evasions.
Typical.
Have a wonderful life, moron.
Matt
Steve
Errrr, there isn't any rational questions in this thread, Dummy.. But,
hey, thanks for providing another opportunity to post *your* ignorance
again...
Here's matt's ignorant claims...
"Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
Matt
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:15:44 -0800 (PST), Matt
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Yep, too Stupid to read.
Thanks for providing yet another opportunity to show how Stupid you
are.
> hey, thanks for providing another opportunity to post *your* ignorance
> again...
>
> Here's matt's ignorant claims...
>
> "Steve, are you saying that the NT 5.1 in your header
> refers to your OPERATING SYSTEM?
> --Matt Telleshttp://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/79a81af7d028...
Yep, and I'm running that dread G2 operating system.
Go Stupid Go! Prove how Stupid you really are.
ROFLMAO.
Matt
Steve
Open your ignorant eyes and learn, Matt.... yes, even a half-wit like
you can learn although I'm not so sure abouyt a quarter-wit like
Shook....
Documentation of platform tokens identifying your opwerating system
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537503%28VS.85%29.aspx#UnderstandUA
"The Platform token identifies your operating system and contains the
version number. The platform token in the example ("Windows NT 6.0")
indicates Windows Vista."
Here's another:
http://my-addr.com/i/user_agent_internet_explorer-and-user_agent_msie/IE_classification_and_examples.php
Here's more: <LOL> direct from Microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/adapting.mspx
User-agent-string detection
Whenever we visit a Web page, our Web browser will transmit basic
information about itself and the operating system we are using.
Matt
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:44:10 -0800 (PST), Matt
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Yep, that G2 operating system of mine is running REAL fast.
ROFLMAO.
Thanks for showing off your stupidity, Steve-o. We all need a laugh in
these dark times. Clowns like you are always appreciated.
(Now, watch as the idiot goes off on ANOTHER rant about something else
he takes out of context).
matt
Steve
Appartently, poor, dumb Matt, who claims to work for Microsoft, still
doesn't even know what a platform token is... letv alone what it
shows.... ....and even after being shown the documentation straight
from Microsoft...
Try getting somebody to read the following for you, Matt, instead of
just snipping it and running away like a coward...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537503%28VS.85%29.aspx#UnderstandUA
"The Platform token identifies your operating system and contains the
version number. The platform token in the example ("Windows NT 6.0")
indicates Windows Vista."
Look Matt, the following website even has little arrows pointing to
the platform tokens before describing what they are.. Now even you
can follow the little arrows, Matt.. and even you can learn....
...and here's another page with little arrows for you to follow.. and
there's even an explanation of where the information comes from....
http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/archive/2007/05/11/understanding-the-ie-user-agent-string.aspx
I M @ good guy
wrote:
>On Nov 25, 12:50 am, Baron_mind <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Steve wrote:
>>
>> > "utter, 'tard" <tdcom...@gmail.com> whined futilely because:
>>
>> >> Baron_Mind was heckling the ambitious ignorance exhibited by:
>>
>> >>> "senile, craven" was pompously posturing about:
>> ---
>> >>>> The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
>> >>>> [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>>
>> >>> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>>
>> >>>> But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>>
>> >>> It isn't..
>>
>> >>> --Got any of your claimed 'magnetic capacitors' yet, Stephen?
>>
>> >> You agwers are stupid. You are going to have to[..]
>>
>> > That doesn't matter to Lochner
>>
>> That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
>> more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
>> who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
>> knowledgeable about science..
>>
>> --And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
>
>Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
>the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
>chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
>intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
It is the TV news writers that are showing how to be
really gullible and stupid, just today an anchor read a
piece that said not only will reducing emissions save
the Polar Bear, it will save millions of people from
having eye, nose and breathing problems.
Maybe the writer was hyper-ventilating and
needed to breath in a paper bag to increase the
CO2 in his lungs.
5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09
CO2 concentrations would have to climb to levels ten times what they are
now before breathing problems set in. And yes, it has happened in the
past: some 400 million years ago, CO2 levels were around 7,000 ppm, a
level that would be fatal to most modern mammals, including us.
But journalism in America, especially television, is an utter disgrace.
But the time they finish dumbing it down, it's usually incoherent, or
wildly wrong.
It's what allows creatures like Palin to flourish.
Baron_mind
>
> Baron_Mind was exposing the sociopathic lies written by:
>>
>> "senile, craven" continued exposing his ambitious ignorance:
>>>
>>> Milt replied to:
>>>>
>>>> Baron_Mind continuied exploiting the deliberate dishonesty of:
>>>>>
>>>>> "senile, craven" continued exposing his ambitious ignorance:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Milt was replying to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Baron_Mind commented:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Milt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Baron_Mind was amused by the histrionics exhibited desperately by:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "senile, craven" continued his cowardly, impotent whining with:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "utter, 'tard" <tdcom...@gmail.com> whined futilely because:
>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't matter to Lochner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's correct, as I consider your words to be nothing
>>>>>>>>>> more than the ambitious blusterings of a right-wing twit
>>>>>>>>>> who is a registered sexual offender, pretending to be
>>>>>>>>>> knowledgeable about science..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --And exposing yourself as a contemptible fraud, instead..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ambitious? That's giving him too much credit. He could very well be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the intellectually laziest person I've seen on here. And Usenet is
>>>>>>>>> chock full of such people, so his ability to stand out as the least
>>>>>>>>> intellectually capable is quite the accomplishment...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's just say that he's really had to work at achieving
>>>>>>>> that distinction, and with a little luck he might just
>>>>>>>> discover what a second-rate asshole he really is..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Once he stops his pathetic and envious sniveling..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's a third-rate mind jammed into a first-rate asshole...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's from Milt Shook who says:
>>>>>> "The theories of gravity vary, but a widely quoted one is
>>>>>> the one that relates it to the earth's spinning motion
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess which way the acceleration vector is pointing, Stephie..
>>>
>>> <ROTFL> That bit of illogical nonsense
>>
>> You aren't even familiar with college freshman physics, are you?
>>
>> --Not that I was surprised by your evasions and lies..
>
> That's from the admitted alcoholic, deadbeat dad
That's from a registered sex-offender..
> who thinks that DC power lines have inductive reactance...
They do, and all your "google scholaring' isn't going to
change the fact that your comprehension of the physics
involved with that statement of fact is but the tawdry
babbling of an immature, and twisted sociopathic mind..
In closing, I would like to thank you again for inadvertently
proving that right-wingers are incapable of higher-ordered
reasoning. Not only are you unable to "do" physics past the
level of a secondary education, most of you, and your fellow
right-wing 'tea-party' sunshine patriots, are really bad at
even simple mathematics. I'm amazed that mental gnats like
yourself think that only yourselves somehow represent the
best solutions for America, when you are but symptoms of
the worst problems we face today as a nation..
--Thanks again for proving my point, Stephen..
Baron_mind
>
> Milt replied to:
>>
Pot, kettle, black.. Examples follow..
> His need to do all that pretence demonstrates that
> underneath his bluster, he knows what a miserable
> failure he is... It's too bad that even with that
> understanding, he isn't capable of changing.
Thank you for that nice piece of sociopathic 'projection'..
Your avoidance of discussing the issues is quite telling..
--See subject header for details..
Baron_mind
>
> Baron_Mind was exploiting the mind-numbing ignorance exhibited by:
>>
>> "senile, craven" continued exposing his ambitious ignorance:
>>>
>>> Milt replied to:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "senile, craven" continued exposing his ambitious ignorance:
>>>>>>
-------
>>>>>>> He's a third-rate mind jammed into a first-rate asshole...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's from Milt Shook who says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The theories of gravity vary, but a widely quoted one is
>>>>>> the one that relates it to the earth's spinning motion
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess which way the acceleration vector is pointing, Stephie..
>>>
>>> <ROTFL> That bit of illogical nonsense
>>
>> You aren't even familiar with college freshman physics, are you?
>>
>> --Not that I was surprised by your evasions and lies..
>
> His specialty is Google search physics...
He's typical of the right-wingers that supported Inhofe..
--Talking about a state of confusion, oh boy..
Last Post
> 'senile, craven" wrote:
>
> > The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
> > [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>
> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
•• Now, how do you propose to prove that?
It has already been admitted, and in fact it has been
proved in part in an UK court by forcing the Royal
Society to produce the hockey stick data in court.
> > But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>
> It isn't..
•• ROTFLMAO — Baron the Mindless is well
named as someone who would make water
run uphill
There is only one place in the world, St John NB
where the reversing falls reverses twice a day
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
Last Post
> On Nov 24, 9:30 am, Baron_mindless <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 'senile, craven" wrote:
>
> > > The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth
> > > [..] has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>
> > Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>
> •• Now, how do you propose to prove that?
> It has already been admitted, and in fact it has been
> proved in part in an UK court by forcing the Royal
> Society to produce the hockey stick data in court.
>
> > > But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>
> > It isn't..
>
> •• ROTFLMAO — Baron the Mindless is well
> named as someone who would make water
5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09
> On Nov 24, 9:30 am, Baron_mindless <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 'senile, craven" wrote:
>>
>> > The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth [..] has
>> > been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed
>>
>> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>
> •• Now, how do you propose to prove that?
> It has already been admitted, and in fact it has been proved in part
> in an UK court by forcing the Royal Society to produce the hockey
> stick data in court.
Well, that must have been quite a story, and of course, very easy to
verify.
Court and case #, please.
>
>> > But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>>
>> It isn't..
>
> •• ROTFLMAO — Baron the Mindless is well
> named as someone who would make water run uphill
>
> There is only one place in the world, St John NB
> where the reversing falls reverses twice a day
And if oceans rise four feet, they will lose the Reversible Falls.
>
> — —
> | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer,
> never on the sceptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has
> provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have | they
> provided data that climate change is being | effected by commerce and
> industry, and not by | natural phenomena
Actually, there's no such thing as "burden of proof" in science. There
is evidence, and there is theory.
You really ought to learn something about it before you try to lecture us
on it.
Last Post
wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:55:53 -0800, Last Post wrote:
> > On Nov 24, 9:30 am, Baron_mindless <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>
> > •• Now, how do you propose to prove that?
> > It has already been admitted, and in fact it has been proved in part
> > in an UK court by forcing the Royal Society to produce the hockey
> > stick data in court.
>
> Well, that must have been quite a story, and of course, very easy to
> verify.
>
> Court and case #, please.
•• 4Q
>
> >> > But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>
> >> It isn't..
>
> > •• ROTFLMAO — Baron the Mindless is well
> > named as someone who would make water run uphill
>
> > There is only one place in the world, St John NB
> > where the reversing falls reverses twice a day
>
> And if oceans rise four feet, they will lose the Reversible Falls.
•• ROTFLMAO
That is impossible and if you had seen the site you would
not make thas comment.
•• However the issue is moot since the oceans
are not likely to rise 4 mm
> > — —
> > | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer,
> > never on the sceptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has
> > provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have | they
> > provided data that climate change is being | effected by commerce and
> > industry, and not by | natural phenomena
>
> Actually, there's no such thing as "burden of proof" in science. There
> is evidence, and there is theory.
•• BULLSHIT
>
> You really ought to learn something about it before you try to lecture us
> on it.
•• HO. Ho. ho ! That's rich
5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09
> On Nov 28, 10:03 am, "5292 Dead, 425 since 1/20/09" <d...@dead.com>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:55:53 -0800, Last Post wrote:
>> > On Nov 24, 9:30 am, Baron_mindless <baron.von.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Nope, just another lie from the intentionally ignorant..
>>
>> > •• Now, how do you propose to prove that?
>> > It has already been admitted, and in fact it has been proved in
>> > part in an UK court by forcing the Royal Society to produce the
>> > hockey stick data in court.
>>
>> Well, that must have been quite a story, and of course, very easy to
>> verify.
>>
>> Court and case #, please.
>
> •• 4Q
OK, so you were lying about that. Let's move on...
>>
>> >> > But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,
>>
>> >> It isn't..
>>
>> > •• ROTFLMAO — Baron the Mindless is well
>> > named as someone who would make water run uphill
>>
>> > There is only one place in the world, St John NB
>> > where the reversing falls reverses twice a day
>>
>> And if oceans rise four feet, they will lose the Reversible Falls.
>
> •• ROTFLMAO
> That is impossible and if you had seen the site you would
> not make thas comment.
>
Actually, I have, and I am aware of the hydraulic dynamics at the mouth
of the Bay of Fundy. The falls will die.
> •• However the issue is moot since the oceans
> are not likely to rise 4 mm
Another absurd statement. Did you hear that at your fake trial?
>> > — —
>> > | In real science the burden of proof is always | on the proposer,
>> > never on the sceptics. So far | neither IPCC nor anyone else has
>> > provided one | iota of valid data for global warming nor have |
>> > they provided data that climate change is being | effected by
>> > commerce and industry, and not by | natural phenomena
>>
>> Actually, there's no such thing as "burden of proof" in science. There
>> is evidence, and there is theory.
>
> •• BULLSHIT
Wow. You really are ignorant, aren't you. Stupid, too. Not a good
combination bubbles. Someday you might want to leave the GOP, and then
what will you do?