Mars/Pluto/Jupiter and Capricorn-Economic and Ecologic Destruction
EHWol...@aol.com
Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
US. That day is done.
The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
for the fraud it is. I warned of this years ago http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
Google, they can be accessed from this page http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/charter.htm
.
Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
focus this crisis in national and personal security.
The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
"usual".
Thanks you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
matters.
The doors of wisdom are never shut.
Benjamin Franklin
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2007 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
The Sun http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Gallery http://www.e-wollmann.com/
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:73990ea9-bbc2-47d5...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!!
That explains why you borrow money from women and never pay them back,
Pantyhead.
Tim
You can't apply to US or the world. Wrong Aspect!
<EHWol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
> You can't apply to US or the world. Wrong Aspect!
How's so? Please explain.
Thanks
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2007 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
The Sun http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Gallery http://www.e-wollmann.com/
> <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:73990ea9-bbc2-47d5...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> > Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> > movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
>
> > Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> > raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> > emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> > books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> > of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> > to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> > fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
> > action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> > allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> > US. That day is done.
>
> > The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> > subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> > for the fraud it is. I warned of this years agohttp://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
>
> > As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> > the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> > years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> > Google, they can be accessed from this page
> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/charter.htm
> > .
> > Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> > Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> > degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
> > focus this crisis in national and personal security.
> > The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
> > conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
> > "usual".
> > Thanks you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
> > matters.
>
> > The doors of wisdom are never shut.
> > Benjamin Franklin
>
> > Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
> > (c) 2007 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
> > The Sunhttp://www.edmondwollmann.com/
> > Consultinghttp://www.astroconsulting.com/
> > Galleryhttp://www.e-wollmann.com/- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
11 years of stalking has really deteriorated Kevin Fries brain...or
has it?
http://nothings.org/usenet/fts/1997/news0081.html
Obsessive-compulsive disorder is characterized by either obsessions or
compulsions:
Obsessions as defined by:
Recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are
experienced, at some time during the disturbance, as intrusive and
inappropriate and that cause marked anxiety or distress
The thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries
about real-life problems
The person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or
images, or to neutralize them with some other thought or action
The person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or
images are a product of his or her own mind (not imposed from without
as in thought insertion)
Compulsions as defined by:
Repetitive behaviors (e.g., hand washing, ordering, checking) or
mental acts (e.g., praying, counting, repeating words silently) that
the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession, or
according to rules that must be applied rigidly
The behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing
distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these
behaviors or mental acts either are not connected in a realistic way
with what they are designed to neutralize or prevent or are clearly
excessive
--- AND: ---
At some point during the course of the disorder, the adult has
recognized that the obsessions or compulsions are excessive or
unreasonable (not applicable to children).
The obsessions or compulsions cause marked distress, are time
consuming (take more than 1 hour a day), or significantly interfere
with the person's normal routine, occupational (or academic)
functioning, or usual social activities or relationships.
If another disorder is present, the content of the obsessions or
compulsions is not restricted to it. The disturbance is not due to the
direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a
medication) or a general medical condition.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:e321ce36-1fc5-429f...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 29, 8:07 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote
>> innews:73990ea9-bbc2-47d5...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.c
>> om:
>>
>> > As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed.
>>
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!!!
>>
>> That explains why you borrow money from women and never pay them
>> back, Pantyhead.
>
> 11 years of stalking has really deteriorated [slap!]
You still can't count. Find something from 11 years ago with my name on it
concerning you, asshole. You're still unable to face your cowardice. You
were given multiple invitations to settle this at PF Chang's over a
delicious lunch and your reaction was to threaten to bring a police escort,
violently effect an illegal citizens arrest and claim to swear out
warrants. That's not including all the phantom lawsuits, threatening to
drive up to LA and go to their homes and attempting to get people fired or
thrown off their ISP. It sure looks like you're the stalker.
You failed at everything, Pantyhead. Accept your defeat.
Better yet, don't. It's about time for your Xmas meltdown.
Tim
Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
prediction.
I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good and Bad,
Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and science, why?
Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
"E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules" <AArcto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message
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EHWol...@aol.com
> Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
> Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
> pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
> prediction.
Oh, you are using a Solar chart. There are several accepted NATAL
charts for the idea of the Declaration of Independence--none of them
are solar charts. You can use a solar chart, but real astrology uses
more than just the sunsign, which is what you are doing. If you go by
the sunsign or solar chart (I have discussed this many times since
1996 http://tinyurl.com/2lskex ), the Mars Pluto oppositions occur
from the 1st/7th and 6th/12th axis. This would indicate opponents and
that the identity of the "United States" will be under power struggle
with other countries and with security issues (Cancer/Capricorn) and
international agreements and diplomacy (Gemini/Sagittarius). But I am
looking at the Jupiter/Venus conjunction of the US which DOES have to
do with International or foriegn countries (Jupiter is the planet
which rules the natural 9th house) and Venus is money and markets--
this is the same aspect I used in the prediction of the trouble George
W. Bush would cause the country, because the eclispe he was elected
under opposed the same points. http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/world.htm
There is much speculation about the US birth chart, I don't get
involved in that, because it is kind of irrelevant here. The IDEA of
independance from other countries was initiated on this day 7/4/1776
in Philadelphia and went into the day. I use the 9:30 am and 2:13 am
times, and if you do charts for those times, you will see I am correct
in making the projections I do.
> I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good and Bad,
> Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and science, why?
> Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
By solar chart there will be major conflict in the US status, as I
outlined in this article http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/paradigm_shift_2012.htm
Because of the T-square made in Cardinal signs.
> "E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules" <AArctophi...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> messagenews:0c142b9e-4f01-4688...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Tim
<EHWol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 1, 12:16 am, "Tim" <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
>> Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
>> Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
>> pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
>> prediction.
>
> Oh, you are using a Solar chart. There are several accepted NATAL
I don't know about that, I've seen most astrologers use standard Solar
chart, to give a generic reading for every body.
> this is the same aspect I used in the prediction of the trouble George
> W. Bush would cause the country, because the eclispe he was elected
Hummm, every body can predict that BUSH is a troublemaker, a stubborn soul,
you don't need to read a chart to predict his actions.
Tim
Azim...@yahoo.com
> <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:c57b2262-4fd3-4d34...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 1, 12:16 am, "Tim" <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> >> Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
> >> Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
> >> pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
> >> prediction.
> > Oh, you are using a Solar chart. There are several accepted NATAL
> I don't know about that, I've seen most astrologers use standard Solar
> chart, to give a generic reading for every body.
Evidently your experience is limited. And secondly snipping what I
stated that was accurate as a solar interp is disingenuous.
> > this is the same aspect I used in the prediction of the trouble George
> > W. Bush would cause the country, because the eclispe he was elected
> Hummm, every body can predict that BUSH is a troublemaker, a stubborn soul,
> you don't need to read a chart to predict his actions.
> Tim
Postdicting I suppose, after the fact, yes. How about PRE-dicting?
If what you say is true, then why did he have a 90% approval rating
after 9/11? I predicted this losers effect the night he was elected
DESPITE the fact that 90% were still duped by 2001. And if you are
familiar with the US chart as you claim, any real astrologer could
have predicted how he would ruin the country.
Sneaky removal of groups trick defeated again.
Tim
<Azim...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 3, 8:54 pm, "Tim" <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
>> <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
>> news:c57b2262-4fd3-4d34...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > On Dec 1, 12:16 am, "Tim" <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
>> >> Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok
>> >> for
>> >> Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
>> >> pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
>> >> prediction.
>
>> > Oh, you are using a Solar chart. There are several accepted NATAL
>
>> I don't know about that, I've seen most astrologers use standard Solar
>> chart, to give a generic reading for every body.
>
> Evidently your experience is limited. And secondly snipping what I
> stated that was accurate as a solar interp is disingenuous.
>
Good Edmo, so you think your prediction about BUSH was accurate in the past?
Now I see why people making fun of you.
Flash Bazbo
>On Dec 3, 8:54 pm, "Tim" <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
>> <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
>> news:c57b2262-4fd3-4d34...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>> > On Dec 1, 12:16 am, "Tim" <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
>> >> Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
>> >> Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
>> >> pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
>> >> prediction.
>
>> > Oh, you are using a Solar chart. There are several accepted NATAL
>
>> I don't know about that, I've seen most astrologers use standard Solar
>> chart, to give a generic reading for every body.
>
>Evidently your experience is limited. And secondly snipping what I
>stated that was accurate as a solar interp is disingenuous.
Does this mean you'll stop snipping posts, also?
>
>> > this is the same aspect I used in the prediction of the trouble George
>> > W. Bush would cause the country, because the eclispe he was elected
>
>> Hummm, every body can predict that BUSH is a troublemaker, a stubborn soul,
>> you don't need to read a chart to predict his actions.
>
>> Tim
>
>Postdicting I suppose, after the fact, yes. How about PRE-dicting?
So how about the roughly 50% of the voters who did not chose GWB?
They seemed to know Bush didn't belong in the White House. You're
claiming some sort of distinctive honor for forming an opinion shared
by millions of others is pretty ludicrous.
And you have yet to identify the mid-August perpetration of fraud that
would mark this Presidency in history.
>
>If what you say is true, then why did he have a 90% approval rating
>after 9/11? I predicted this losers effect the night he was elected
>DESPITE the fact that 90% were still duped by 2001. And if you are
>familiar with the US chart as you claim, any real astrologer could
>have predicted how he would ruin the country.
You predicted something DESPITE public opinion about an event that had
yet to occur the night Bush was elected?
>Sneaky removal of groups trick defeated again.
Bwahahahaha. Have you no shame, ed? You pioneered the practice of
switching groups.
GW Bush: War Criminal
> Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
> Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
> pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
> prediction.
>
> I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good and Bad,
> Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and science, why?
> Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be a good
thing?
--
http://www.stopiranwar.com
http://impeachcheney.org
http://www.ivaw.org
GW Bush: War Criminal
"Kerry Will Win" - Eddy H. Wollmann.
> >Sneaky removal of groups trick defeated again.
>
> Bwahahahaha. Have you no shame, ed? You pioneered the practice of
> switching groups.
--
Edmond Heinz Wollmann-Astrologer
> <Azime...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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Calling me "Edmo" gives away your spinic identity, fuckhead. End of
conversation.
Spinic=A disingenuous fault-finding and spin-doctoring bigot, who
does
not investigate anything realistically before attempting to denigrate
it. A person who has 0 insight into their own beliefs, psychology and
defective logical thinking processes that EVOKES, and is responsible
for, 99% of their predjudice and obsession with that which they fear
a
possibility.
al_s...@yahoo.com
> Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
> > Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
> > pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
> > prediction.
>
> > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good and Bad,
> > Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and science, why?
> > Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
>
> After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be a good
> thing?
Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
lente...@mypacks.net
GW Bush: War Criminal
> On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
> > > Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
> > > pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
> > > prediction.
> >
> > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good and Bad,
> > > Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and science, why?
> > > Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
> >
> > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be a good
> > thing?
>
> Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
In the 10th?
EHWol...@aol.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
By solar chart, yes, all during a Saturn return for the US:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/paradi3.gif
no...@weirdness.com
http://www.nocem.org/
http://www.rahul.net/falk/quickrefs.html#W
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Tim
<EHWol...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Are you drunk or what? I didn't use solar chart as you guessed!! I use
tropical chart!
GW Bush: War Criminal
> On Dec 7, 7:13 am, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > <al_si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > > > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> > > > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is
> > > > > Ok for Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US
> > > > > chart, it is pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th
> > > > > house as in your prediction.
> >
> > > > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good
> > > > > and Bad, Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and
> > > > > science, why? Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
> >
> > > > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be a good
> > > > thing?
> >
> > > Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
> >
> > In the 10th?
> >
> > --http://www.stopiranwar.comhttp://impeachcheney.orghttp://www.ivaw.org-
> >Hide quoted text -
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>
> By solar chart, yes, all during a Saturn return for the US:
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/paradi3.gif
It's a nice chart, Ed, thanks, but it's not in the 10th.
<squint> either Full Civil War...or Teleportation.
Greg
"GW Bush: War Criminal" <imp...@chimpy.org> wrote in message
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He should eat his chart for lunch and dinner, heehee...
Still better than eating shits on Russian streets heeehe....
EHWol...@aol.com
> <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 7, 7:13 am, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > > <al_si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > > > > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is
> > > > > > Ok for Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US
> > > > > > chart, it is pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th
> > > > > > house as in your prediction.
> > > > > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good
> > > > > > and Bad, Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and
> > > > > > science, why? Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
> > > > > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be a good
> > > > > thing?
> > > > Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
> > > In the 10th?
> > By solar chart, yes, all during a Saturn return for the US:
> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/paradi3.gif
> It's a nice chart, Ed, thanks, but it's not in the 10th.
This is too deep for you I see. What part of "squaring Pluto" confused
you? I forget, most of you can't read a chart. Put the sun on the
ascendant and the others move appropriately. Sheees!
> <squint> either Full Civil War...or Teleportation.
The doors of wisdom are never shut.
Benjamin Franklin
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
GW Bush: War Criminal
> On Dec 8, 10:12 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > <EHWollm...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Dec 7, 7:13 am, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > > > <al_si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > > > > > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is
> > > > > > > Ok for Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US
> > > > > > > chart, it is pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th
> > > > > > > house as in your prediction.
>
> > > > > > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good
> > > > > > > and Bad, Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and
> > > > > > > science, why? Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
>
> > > > > > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th
> > > > > > be a good thing?
>
> > > > > Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
>
> > > > In the 10th?
>
> > > By solar chart, yes, all during a Saturn return for the US:
> > >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/paradi3.gif
>
> > It's a nice chart, Ed, thanks, but it's not in the 10th.
>
> This is too deep for you I see. What part of "squaring Pluto" confused
> you? I forget, most of you can't read a chart. Put the sun on the
> ascendant and the others move appropriately. Sheees!
The chart you've poasted doesn't have anything in the 10th except T
Neptune & teh N Moon, Eddie. Talk about confusing.
> > <squint> either Full Civil War...or Teleportation.
>
> The doors of wisdom are never shut.
> Benjamin Franklin
"The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own
ignorance." ~ Benjamin Franklin
--
http://www.ivaw.org
http://www.stopiranwar.com
http://impeachcheney.org
E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules
You are confusing me with the other poster--either that or you are a
complete numbskull- _I_ was talking about the square --what part of
SQUARE still escapes you???? If you are skilled at all in astrology
you would be looking for info I posted about THE SQUARE, not the
tenth, comprende? And if you wish to see how the square fits in the
tenth, MOVE THE CHART!
> > > <squint> either Full Civil War...or Teleportation.
> > The doors of wisdom are never shut.
> > Benjamin Franklin
> "The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own
> ignorance." ~ Benjamin Franklin
Exactly!
"If it's never our fault, we can't take responsibility for it. If we
can't take responsibility for it, we'll always be its victim."
Richard Bach
Greg
"E. H. Wollmann - The One Who Rules" <AArcto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ec9253f1-5acc-4315...@b1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Edmo, your logic is full of crap! Here is a correction for you, if any one skilled at all in Astrology he/she must not use your phony reading as a base.
Regards,
GW Bush: War Criminal
Eddie, _I_ wasn't talking about the square, and neither was Tim.
> If you are skilled at all in astrology you would be looking for info I
> posted about THE SQUARE, not the tenth, comprende?
I was asking Tim why he thought UR in the 10th would be any better than
it had been in the 9th. Remember? As for me looking for info you've
poasted before knowing that you've poasted it well, forget it. What you
ask is impossible, and slightly crazed.
> And if you wish to see how the square fits in the tenth, MOVE THE CHART!
Move it yourself, lazy boi.
> > > > <squint> either Full Civil War...or Teleportation.
>
> > > The doors of wisdom are never shut.
> > > Benjamin Franklin
>
> > "The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own
> > ignorance." ~ Benjamin Franklin
>
> Exactly!
Fine. When will admit to yours, Eddie?
> "If it's never our fault, we can't take responsibility for it. If we
> can't take responsibility for it, we'll always be its victim."
> Richard Bach
Bush, eh?
EHWollmann PMAFA
Let us refresh ourselves on your misrepresentation of who said what:
YOU SAID:
> <al_si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> > > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> > > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction is Ok for
> > > > Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to US chart, it is
> > > > pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not 9th house as in your
> > > > prediction.
>
> > > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be Good and Bad,
> > > > Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new invention, and science, why?
> > > > Uranus in moving to US's 10th House.
>
> > > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be a good
> > > thing?
I SAID:
> > Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
YOU SAID:
> In the 10th?
To which I posted a chart SHOWING THE SQUARE, you asshole.
Put Uranus in the tenth in Aries and Pluto will be squaring it IN THE
TENTH FROM THE SEVENTH.
Comprende disingenuous asshole?
I don't have all day to make a fool out of you repeatedly. End of
conversation.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:6177eca0-3aca-4580...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 7, 7:13 am, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
>
> Let us refresh ourselves on your misrepresentation of who said what:
> YOU SAID:
>
>> <al_si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal)
>> > wrote:
>> > > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
>> > > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction
>> > > > is Ok for Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to
>> > > > US chart, it is pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not
>> > > > 9th house as in your prediction.
>>
>> > > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be
>> > > > Good and Bad, Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new
>> > > > invention, and science, why? Uranus in moving to US's 10th
>> > > > House.
>>
>> > > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be
>> > > a good thing?
>
> I SAID:
>
>> > Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
>
> YOU SAID:
>
>> In the 10th?
>
> To which I posted a chart SHOWING THE SQUARE, you asshole.
Nice to see Ed has given up on that "kind, caring counselor" schtick.
> Put Uranus in the tenth in Aries and Pluto will be squaring it IN THE
> TENTH FROM THE SEVENTH.
> Comprende disingenuous asshole?
Ed jes' lurves wimmenfolks. I think it's time to hace a chat with the
ABUNDANCE lady bein's it's Xmas and all!
> I don't have all day to make a fool out of you repeatedly.
I thought you had "to infinity and beyond", you lying fuck.
> End of conversation.
Ed will be back real soon! [followup trick defeated]
GW Bush: War Criminal
> Followup games defeated.
>
> On 17 Dec 2007, EHWollmann PMAFA <alcha...@yahoo.com> posted some
> news:6177eca0-3aca-4580...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Dec 7, 7:13 am, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal) wrote:
> >
> > Let us refresh ourselves on your misrepresentation of who said what:
> > YOU SAID:
> >
> >> <al_si...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > On Dec 4, 9:14 pm, impe...@chimpy.org (GW Bush: War Criminal)
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Tim <Bus...@noway.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Because US's birth date is unique, like yours, your prediction
> >> > > > is Ok for Aries, US is not an Aries. When I applied Jupiter to
> >> > > > US chart, it is pointing to Relationship Aspect (7th house) not
> >> > > > 9th house as in your prediction.
> >>
> >> > > > I think what will happen to US in the next 3-4 years will be
> >> > > > Good and Bad, Good in terms of Fame in Computer and new
> >> > > > invention, and science, why? Uranus in moving to US's 10th
> >> > > > House.
> >>
> >> > > After wreaking such havoc in the 9th, why would UR in the 10th be
> >> > > a good thing?
> >
> > I SAID:
> >
> >> > Because it will then be squaring Pluto?
> >
> > YOU SAID:
> >
> >> In the 10th?
> >
> > To which I posted a chart SHOWING THE SQUARE, you asshole.
>
> http://www.ur-ban.com/galleryv2/d/12587-1/asshole.jpg
>
> > Put Uranus in the tenth in Aries and Pluto will be squaring it IN THE
> > TENTH FROM THE SEVENTH.
> > Comprende disingenuous asshole?
> >
> > I don't have all day to make a fool out of you repeatedly. End of
> > conversation.
>
> When will you be making a fool out of him? I only see you making an ass
> out of yourself.
Ain't he sweet? ;)
prowe...@mypacks.net
> On Nov 29 2007, 9:01 am, EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> > Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> > movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
> > Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> > raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> > emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> > books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> > of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> > to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> > fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
> > action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> > allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> > US. That day is done.
> > The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> > subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> > for the fraud it is. I warned of this years ago
http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
> > As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> > the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> > years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> > Google, they can be accessed from this page
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/charter.htm
> > Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> > degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
> > focus this crisis in national and personal security.
> > The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
> > conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
> > "usual".
> > Thank you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
> > matters.
> > The doors of wisdom are never shut.
> > Benjamin Franklin
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
(c) 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Edmond Wollmann
> As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
> Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
> action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> US. That day is done.
> The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> for the fraud it is. I warned of this years ago http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
> As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> Google, they can be accessed from this page
> Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
> focus this crisis in national and personal security.
> The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
> conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
> "usual".
> Thank you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
> matters.
Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
territory.
What part of this was inaccurate?
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2007 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:48CEEE...@earthlink.net:
The part where you predicted the date it was going to happen, exact
figures and how much money you made from it.
Since I don't hear any ghoulish crowing from Teh Pant-i-Hed, I assume
it's just another of your delusional lies.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I've got news for you, I am not your normal delusional imbecile"
- Ed confirms what everyone already knew.
Talking to yourself again, freak?
Fujikawa Yamamoto
news:48CEEE...@earthlink.net:
> On November 29 2007 EHWol...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with
>> the subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely
>> exposed for the fraud it is. I warned of this years ago
>> http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
>
>
> Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> territory.
> What part of this was inaccurate?
>
Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?
arctur...@earthlink.net
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >> As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> >> Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> >> movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> >> acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
> >> Throughout history the battle for religious dogmatic rule has been
> >> raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> >> emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> >> books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> >> of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> >> to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> >> fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
> >> action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> >> allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> >> US. That day is done.
> >> The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> >> subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> >> for the fraud it is. I warned of this years agohttp://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
> >> As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> >> the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> >> years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> >> Google, they can be accessed from this page
> >http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/media_page.htm
> >> Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> >> repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> >> values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> >> Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> >> one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer, if you have planets at these
> >> degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
> >> focus this crisis in national and personal security.
> >> The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
> >> conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
> >> "usual".
> >> Thank you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
> >> matters.
> >Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> >territory.
> >What part of this was inaccurate?
And again today, 450 points, not to mention I was also accurate about
the ecologic destruction co-inciding.
> Care to bracket it with some dates?
> Ken Kizer
Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how you
call yourself an astrologer (or any of you in aam). I also see then,
that you have never read anything I have written.
Let's start at the begininng:
I first published this notion in Horoscope magazine May 1996 issue:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/saturn.htm
"There will be great economic destructurization which will necessitate
power decentralization (this is already occurring from the computer
culture and the Internet). Our greatest difficulties will come from
not accepting responsibility for our own reality experiences and would
be reflected in governmental collapse from the old need to persuade
rather than constructively inform. And through the final recognition
that we have given far to much power to those in authority because of
the demise of the sense of service. New aspects of the higher self and
mind will have to be put to use by each individual (Uranus/Aquarius).
Our philosophical and religious beliefs will be shattered (Uranus
square Jupiter) and business will not be "as usual" (Uranus square
Saturn). As ego conflicts accelerate the potential for skirmishes
throughout the world will be increasing. Computer technology may be
opening many avenues for personal potential-and misuse. The
unsoundness of our values (s) and economic structures leads to
destruction (Saturn square Uranus) through power struggles and war
(Sun/Mars opposition Pluto, Pluto opposing Sun/Mars midpoint.) The
challenge is to recognize the true source of our abundance, and that
it does not result from special values but is available to all who
function from integrity and empowered self action."
Then, over and over again on usenet I pointed out this idea:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&q=economic+destructurization%2BEdmond+Wollmann&qt_s=Search
I wrote about it in my Astrological Mission Statement:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea8422331e?hl=en
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en
And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
November 29, 2007 :
"Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"
Then I posted this to AAM : http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae2854db94d?hl=en
Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
(dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c7bff4d?hl=en
"I still see her standing by the water
Standing there lookin' out to sea
And is she waiting there for me?
On the beach where we used to run
Galveston, oh Galveston, I am so afraid of dying
Before I dry the tears she's crying
Before I watch your sea birds flying in the sun
At Galveston, at Galveston" Glenn Campbell, Galveston
EHWol...@aol.com
> who's an astrologer, and how good they are, is just mental
> masturbation.
I see. And posting links to websites trying to denigrate me for almost
11 years now?
The sooner you idiots stop TRYING to make a fool of me, the quicker I
will stop ACTUALLY making fools of you.
"People who don't see their nature and imagine they can practice
thoughtlessness all the time are lairs and fools."
Bodhidharma
Borked Pseudo Mailed
EHWol...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
> I see. And posting links to websites trying to denigrate me for almost
> 11 years now?
> The sooner you idiots stop TRYING to make a fool of me
You're doing a fine job all by yourself, delusionboi!
http://smbtech.com/ed
woll...@csusm.edu
> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> >On Sep 17, 8:50 pm, CFA wrote:
> >> >Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how you
> >> >call yourself an astrologer (or any of you in aam).
> >> You coulda just spelled out your predictions. All this shit about
> >> who's an astrologer, and how good they are, is just mental
> >> masturbation.
> >I see. And posting links to websites
> Most people actually just quote one- a web site composed of some of
> your least astrological moments. Yeah, yeah, there are a few
> forgeries, but it's 99 and 44/100ths pure Edmond Wollmann.
Irrelevant and inconsequential. It simply shows the fear all mindless
and lifeless losers have of me, this is no reflection on me. No one
pays attention to them dispite you and others losers hopes that they
will. You waste your time and make fools of yourselves thinking
otherwise. I use usenet simply to prove astrology and my accuracy and
to archive my work for future persons with brains, what you imbeciles
think is not a part of my enviable life.
I am still the only one accurately predicting and showing how
astrology works, still a success in more than 10 fields and still
superior to anything to ever have posted here. I have a powerful
reputation for truth telling and you are a obsessed fan.
"Get Out Of My Way
Get Out Of My Life
I Don't Need Anybody To Tell Me
How To Be Right
Don't Try To Stop Me
I've Got The Answer
I Won't Need Anybody Except My Woman Tonight."
Paul McCartney, "Get Out of My Way"
Non scrivetemi
woll...@csusm.edu Yet another Wollmann sock puppet wrote:
>
>
> Irrelevant and inconsequential. It simply shows the fear all mindless
> and lifeless losers have of me
You spelled ridicule wrong.
HTH, OCDboi.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 18, 10:33 am, CFA wrote:
>> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>> >On Sep 17, 8:50 pm, CFA wrote:
>> >> >Wow, you're serious too. And then you wonder why I don't see how
>> >> >you call yourself an astrologer (or any of you in aam).
>
>> >> You coulda just spelled out your predictions. All this shit about
>> >> who's an astrologer, and how good they are, is just mental
>> >> masturbation.
>
>> >I see. And posting links to websites
>
>> Most people actually just quote one- a web site composed of some of
>> your least astrological moments. Yeah, yeah, there are a few
>> forgeries, but it's 99 and 44/100ths pure Edmond Wollmann.
>
> Irrelevant and inconsequential.
It's your own words. Nice to see you agree. But it's also a million
laughs at your expense.
> It simply shows the fear all mindless
> and lifeless losers have of me, this is no reflection on me.
They're your words, Pantyhead. Speaking of fear, I sure hope you've made
it to PF Chang's and enjoyed the crab wontons in the 8.5 years since you
pussied out of a delicious lunch. I also hope you didn't tip the valet
with food stamps, scumbag.
> No one
> pays attention to them dispite you and others losers hopes that they
> will. You waste your time and make fools of yourselves thinking
> otherwise. I use usenet simply to prove astrology and my accuracy and
> to archive my work for future persons with brains, what you imbeciles
> think is not a part of my enviable life.
I think I'm still waiting to tour your observatory, castle and airstrip.
> I am still the only one accurately predicting and showing how
> astrology works, still a success in more than 10 fields and still
> superior to anything to ever have posted here. I have a powerful
> reputation for truth telling and you are a obsessed fan.
Denial noted.
Way to go, Ken. Nobody gets Edmo frothing like you since Susan Boyle.
Flash Bazbo
>I have a powerful
>reputation for truth telling and you are a obsessed fan.
Where is this reputation in effect? Because it sure isn't prevalent
on the internet.
The Chief Instigator
Too stupid to learn from your consistent failures, Wollk00k?
(Is it still February 2002 in whatever world you think you live in?)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Rockford 5, Houston 2 (April 25)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 11 vs. Chicago, 7:35
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:pd86d4h7p36r99qji...@4ax.com:
It's in Bizarro-Ed World, where Pantyhead dines on crab wontons at PF
Chang's and tips valets with real money with nary a dumpster in sight.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:slrngd6cbg....@eris.io.com:
> On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:53:08 +0200 (CEST), Non scrivetemi
> <nonscr...@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote:
>> In article
>> <9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com>
>> woll...@csusm.edu Yet another Wollmann sock puppet wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Irrelevant and inconsequential. It simply shows the fear all
>>> mindless and lifeless losers have of me
>>
>> You spelled ridicule wrong.
>> HTH, OCDboi.
>
> Too stupid to learn from your consistent failures, Wollk00k?
> (Is it still February 2002 in whatever world you think you live in?)
It must be why Ed hasn't "sued the fuck out" of everyone. I don't know
about you but I can't wait to go to jail once Edmo drags those evul SPINICS
into court and becomes victorious over the W3C[1].
[1] World Wide Wollmann Conspiracy
The Chief Instigator
To his credit (for what little that's worth), he still has yet to appear at
the PF Chang's in Sugar Land.
arctur...@earthlink.net
>
> I wrote about it in my Astrological Mission Statement:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.metapsych/msg/3776cdea84...http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154?hl=en
>
> And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
>
> Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
>
> And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
> November 29, 2007 :
> "Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
> economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
> real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
> first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with
> the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"
>
>
> Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
> the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
> Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
> conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
> triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
> Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
> the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
> (dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
> Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
> you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.
>
Now, this morning the market opens with the Moon right on the Jupiter/
Saturn conjunction point and squares Neptune as the US government
promises "fixes".
The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.
It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
Aeschylus
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> On Sep 17, 8:00=A0pm, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
Where's my law suit, punk?
AtlantaWanker
when are you ever going to get a life, dude?
AtlantaWanker <ro...@192.168.0.1> wrote:
>
> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>
> > woll...@csusm.edu wrote in
> > news:9a8be0b1-eafa-44c3...@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> >
PKB.
el...@no.spam
<EHWol...@aol.com> wrote:
>> You coulda just spelled out your predictions. All this shit about
>> who's an astrologer, and how good they are, is just mental
>> masturbation.
>I see. And posting links to websites trying to denigrate me for almost
>11 years now?
Poor baby. You came on here and started bullying people and now
you're being mocked.
>The sooner you idiots stop TRYING to make a fool of me,
Make a fool of you? We can hardly do that. You've been a fool
a long time and that's your own doing.
Here's a web site that documents some of your lack of
integrity:
Flash Bazbo
wrote:
>Now, this morning the market opens with the Moon right on the Jupiter/
>Saturn conjunction point and squares Neptune as the US government
>promises "fixes".
>The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.
Bwahahahahaha! 12 years? What a useless prediction.
el...@no.spam
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.
Oh, please. Isn't there enough bullshit already in this world?
Cujo DeSockpuppet
There's no end to Pantyhead's bullshit.
al_s...@yahoo.com
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/a701dd5709153154
And updated everyone on the idea in 2000:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.paranormal/msg/f71cb6af21c047a4?hl=en
Then I posted this article on my website in September of 2007:
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/pluto_returns_to_capricorn.htm
And then I posted the current post we are discussing which states on
November 29, 2007 :
"Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and
economic repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and
real estate values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the
first Mars Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate
with
the final one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,"
Then I posted this to AAM : http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/0004eae285...
Now any good astrologer knows that the Jupiter/Saturn cycle reflects
the economic cycle and that it starts with a conjunction (Last one
Jupiter and Saturn in Taurus square Uranus in Aquarius) and that THAT
conjunction and square which indicates economic destruction would be
triggered by aspects and conjunctions to it--and that currently
Neptune made a station at 22-23 Aquarius right on that aspect, with
the transiting Full moon on 9/15/2008 conjunction the US Neptune
(dissolution) along with the recent Uranus opposition to that degree.
Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
you sir are not. Nor do you read or follow along very well either.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology.moderated/msg/5c674ae87c...
AtlantaWanker
i'm fine with this since you set up the analogy that cujo needs to get a
life. perhaps i do need to "get a life" (haha) but i don't pursue it on
teh usernets with a gang of retards who are ready to hump into a thread at
any second.
i find that to be profoundly lame.
Vphone
al_s...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, CFA wrote:
>
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > >On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
Sock puppet abuse noted.
Cujo DeSockpuppet
news:17016d08-711e-4440...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com:
.
> Now any good astrologer [slap!]
That leaves you and that horrid book out, Pantyhead.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"When the students and newsgroups and world is ready, the master appears"
- Edmond Wollmann, trying ever so hard to be modest.
Edmond Wollmann PMAFA
> To repeat...
> *Any* astrologer can see the Uranus/Pluto square coming in ~4 years.
> That's the equivalent of ~1961 or 2 in astrological time, and that
> tells me pretty much all I really need to know about the overall
> direction of things for the next several years. The rest is just
> foreplay.
Ken Kizer, astrologer who predicted nothing accurate in 12 years on
usenet.
Yes, Ken, you are all such accomplished astrologers. Just like Noel
Tyl predicted the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction was Isreal at war!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahyahhaha!
Unfortunately for all of you *I* am the one who has consistently
evidenced what real astrologers do. You can tell how obsessed all you
freaks are with me because of my obvious proficiency, 12 years of
trying to put someone down. You'd think by now you losers would
realize how idiotic you look. As previous posters have said, you guys
are lucky when I do answer you at all.
Woe unto you hypocrites!
Blind guides!
You do not enter the kingdom of heaven yourselves-nor do you allow
others to
enter.
You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.
You bow to the letter of the law and violate the heart of the law!
Justice! Mercy! Good faith!
Yours is a house of desolation!
You shall not see me here again until you learn to cry!!
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the lord, for I and my father
are one
and the same!
The Christ in The synoptic gospels
VPhone
Edmond Wollmann K00K <alcha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Unfortunately for all of you *I* am the one who has consistently
>
Spammed incoherent screed FOR YEARS NOW!!1!!
Cujo DeSockpuppet
45c5-8377-9...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
>> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
>
>> To repeat...
>
>> *Any* astrologer can see the Uranus/Pluto square coming in ~4 years.
>> That's the equivalent of ~1961 or 2 in astrological time, and that
>> tells me pretty much all I really need to know about the overall
>> direction of things for the next several years. The rest is just
>> foreplay.
>
> Ken Kizer, astrologer who predicted nothing accurate in 12 years on
> usenet.
"Bush will lose" - Ed fucks up a prediction twice.
> Yes, Ken, you are all such accomplished astrologers. Just like Noel
> Tyl predicted the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction was Isreal at war!
> Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahyahhaha!
You're an idiot, Edmo.
> Unfortunately for all of you *I* am the one who has consistently
> evidenced what real astrologers do. You can tell how obsessed all you
> freaks are with me because of my obvious proficiency, 12 years of
> trying to put someone down. You'd think by now you losers would
> realize how idiotic you look. As previous posters have said, you guys
> are lucky when I do answer you at all.
Frothfest noted. A bonus check is on its way to Ken.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"I have always thought that the reason Dinosaurs were so big is because
of the dramatic difference in gravitational strength between that time
period and now" - Edmo the paleontologist.
Fujikawa Yamamoto
news:f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
>> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
>
>> To repeat...
>
>> *Any* astrologer can see the Uranus/Pluto square coming in ~4 years.
>> That's the equivalent of ~1961 or 2 in astrological time, and that
>> tells me pretty much all I really need to know about the overall
>> direction of things for the next several years. The rest is just
>> foreplay.
>
> Ken Kizer, astrologer who predicted <snip>
When will you be answering this question, Edmo?
>> http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
>
>
> Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> territory.
> What part of this was inaccurate?
>
Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?
Edmond Heinz Wollmann-Astrologer
> On 22 Sep 2008, Edmond Wollmann PMAFA <alchame...@yahoo.com> posted somenews:f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
> >> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly, and
> > Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> > territory.
> > What part of this was inaccurate?
> Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?
Are blind, deaf, and dumb?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/db9300a9c6782074?hl=en
You are spamming, fuckhead. Either discuss an astrological issue or
get a life and stop spamming the same irrelevant question.
EHWol...@aol.com
> You wanna impress me?
No. Not interested. Not consequential. Not even fun.
"So I bought me a ticket
I caught a plane to spain
Went to a party down a red dirt road
There were lots of pretty people there
Reading rolling stone, reading vogue
They said, how long can you hang around?
I said a week, maybe two,
Just until my skin turns brown
Then Im going home to California!
California Im coming home!
Im going to see the folks I dig
Ill even kiss a sunset pig
California Im coming home!
Joni Mitchell, California
EHWol...@aol.com wrote:
>
Sue me bitch!
Cujo DeSockpuppet
@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 22, 8:16 pm, CFA AKA Ken Kizer wrote:
>
>> You wanna impress me?
>
> No. Not interested. Not consequential. Not even fun.
Not ever gonna happen unless you somehow manage to pay Susan back, you
fucking deadbeat.
E H Wollmann Professional Astrologer
> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote in news:eabb428e-ba52-4ad8-8de6-1ccd22b61371
Don't owe any Susan any money dipshit. Move on Mr. Obsesso freak.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/5a8ef0334f7f20e3?hl=en
"My shots are clean,
And my, my shots are final.
My shots are deadly,
And when it's done!
You're as stiff as my smoking barrel!
You're as dead as a desert night!
You're a notch,
And I'm a legend!!
I'm a killer!
I'm a clown!
I'm a priest....That's, gone to town!!! Alice Cooper, Desperado
Non scrivetemi
E H Wollmann Professional Asshole <achea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
Whine on, punk!
That Wollmann Asshole
news:e40dbc2f-e627-48c8...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 23, 11:03 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote in news:eabb428e-ba52-4ad8-8de6-1ccd22b61371
>> @x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Sep 22, 8:16 pm, CFA AKA Ken Kizer wrote:
>>
>> >> You wanna impress me?
>>
>> > No. Not interested. Not consequential. Not even fun.
>>
>> Not ever gonna happen unless you somehow manage to pay Susan back, you
>> fucking deadbeat.
>
> Don't owe any Susan any money dipshit.
That's not what she told everyone else, asshole. You also promised to pay
it back, you lying scumbag.
> Move on Mr. Obsesso freak.
Make me, Pantyhead. You didn't even have the guts to show up at Chang's
for a lunch and you invited yourself. You're a lying coward and I dare
you to finally sue me, nadless pansy.
--
Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"For the sake of the newsgroup I am going to get off for good." - Yet
another of Edmo's many lies.
el...@no.spam
E H Wollmann Professional Astrologer <achea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Don't owe any Susan any money dipshit.
Oh, you do owe her, Edmo. But you don't want to pay her back so
you lie about it.
How much do you owe your ex-inlaws?
el...@no.spam
Cujo DeSockpuppet <cu...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
>I can read, Pantyhead. I only saw Sept. of 2007. So you're a
>year off and that's only on a date that something happened. No
>specifics other than some vague verbiage.
Gee, another hit on a vague prediction. What wonders!
ROFLMFAO!!!
arctur...@earthlink.net
> > As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> > Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> > movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
> > Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> > Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,
Snip! And that date is November 26 2008
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworkshttp://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
el...@no.spam
Bob Officer <bobof...@127.0.0.7> wrote:
>So when are you going to read the calendar?
Right after he gets some integrity? Or is it after he learns
to work and play well with others?
--
"First day on campus! AAAAAiiiiiiieeeeee! 30,000 femininas! So little
time!!!!"
-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, liar, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM,
convicted criminal, asshole, bully, Kook of the Year 1998,
the Ted Kennedy of astrologers, Village Idiot Award winner,
dumpster diver, smeg for brains, KOOK of the MILLENNIUM,
whiner, ignoramus, comma challenged, plagiarist, dissembler,
failure, alt.astrology's kook cynosure, feckless
"Edmo, if you're going to keep talking to yourself, you could at least listen."
--jfred
Fujikawa Yamamoto
posted some
news:ce04cf95-3481-4acd...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 22, 10:57 pm, Fujikawa Yamamoto <am...@now-flushed.org> wrote:
>> On 22 Sep 2008, Edmond Wollmann PMAFA <alchame...@yahoo.com> posted
>> somen
> ews:f40a277e-16c6-45c5...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Sep 22, 10:25 am, CFA wrote:
>> >> al_si...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> >Therefore, I was obviously an astrologer using a tool properly,
>> >> >and
>
>> > Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
>> > territory.
>> > What part of this was inaccurate?
>
>> Where exactly is that specific text in the link you provided, Edmo?
>
> Are blind, deaf, and dumb?
I guess you are, or you're deliberately evading the question. This is the
link you provided/snipped: http://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox. Looks like you were
trying to soothe your conscience by rationalizing good and bad. Didn't
say anything about a stock market crash tho...
Nice bit of seed tripe you planted below. Took a tip from Sollog did you?
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/db9300a9c6782074?hl=en
>
> You are spamming, fuckhead. Either discuss an astrological issue or
> get a life and stop spamming the same irrelevant question.
I did and you failed to have an acceptable answer. BTW, I got your
fuckhead right here.
http://www.imagedump.com/image.cgi?file=515933.jpg
el...@no.spam
<arctur...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Snip! And that date is November 26 2008
Sure it is, Eddy.
EHWol...@aol.com
wrote:
> On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> > Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> > movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
> > raging. All religions are destructive of truth. A glimmer of reason is
> > emerging with the works of Christopher Hitchens (God is not Great) and
> > books like the God delusion. The psychological damage from the denial
> > of reality of the physical world (Capricorn) will last for generations
> > to come. For a very long time we have been inundated with religious
> > fervor and obsession (Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius). The lack of
> > action by the intellectuals to continue our progress in the sciences
> > allowed the negativity of this issue to permeate the government of the
> > US. That day is done.
> > The religious false choice garbage of the Bush administration with the
> > subjective value judgment of "Good VS Evil" will be completely exposed
> > for the fraud it is. I warned of this years agohttp://tinyurl.com/2fn5ox
> > As usual, my warning was ignored. All issues that I touched upon in
> > the form of essays in the last 13 years will be manifested in the
> > years to come. Many of these topics are archived for reference in
> > Google, they can be accessed from this page
>
> http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/media_page.htm
>
> > Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> > Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > degrees take precautions to protect your assets. Mars in its fall will
> > focus this crisis in national and personal security.
> > The environment contributes to the destruction with extreme weather
> > conditions, wherein neither the weather nor business will be as
> > "usual".
> > Thank you again for allowing me to express my insights on these
> > matters.
>
> Stock Market crashes 500 points, real estate in record negative
> territory.
Job losses soar, credit in a frozen panic.
> What part of this was inaccurate?
Zero!
"She's come undone
She wanted truth but all she got was lies!
Came the time to realize
And it was too late!
She's come undone,
She didn't know what she was headed for
And when I found what she was headed for
Mama, it was too late
It's too late
She's gone too far!
She's lost THE SUN!
Too many mountains
And not enough stairs to climb
Too many churches
And not enough truth!
Too many people,
And not enough eyes to see
Too many lives to lead
And not enough time
It's too late
She's gone too far
She's lost herself!"
The Guess Who
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
THE SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
Borked Pseudo Mailed
EHWol...@aol.com wrote:
>
> On Sep 15, 4:22=A0pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
arctur...@earthlink.net
> On Sep 15, 4:22 pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> > > As Jupiter moves into Capricorn business expansion is reversed. As
> > > Pluto moves into Capricorn business power is threatened. Both of these
> > > movements reflect the restriction of the environment ecologically. An
> > > acceleration of the poisoning of the Earth now will become undeniable.
> > > Now we enter a painful period for many as the foreclosure and economic
> > > repercussions therefrom accelerate. Markets will crash and real estate
> > > values plummet. This actually began in earnest with the first Mars
> > > Opposed Pluto in September of 2007 and will accelerate with the final
> > > one which occurs at 0 Capricorn/Cancer,
>
> Snip! And that date is November 26 2008
Wow where'd I get that date? It is an important date, but not the
right one.
Please ignore that!
The date is actually AUGUST 26, 2009
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Tha SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Artworks http://www.e-wollmann.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
arctur...@earthlink.net
> On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:25:29 -0700 (PDT), arcturian...@earthlink.net
> wrote:
>
> >Now, this morning the market opens with the Moon right on the Jupiter/
> >Saturn conjunction point and squares Neptune as the US government
> >promises "fixes".
> >The prediction I made 12 years ago comes to pass.
>
> Bwahahahahaha! 12 years? What a useless prediction.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/msg/edd3fa95250d2a3a?hl=en
Which I reiterated over and over again FOR the past 12 years.
I have fulfilled the Amazing idiot Randi's requirements about 5 times
now with time stamped accurate predictions, where's my millions?
Where's the fraud Randi now?
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our
inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the
state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
Vphone
arctur...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> On Sep 24, 4:23=A0pm, arcturian...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > On Sep 15, 4:22=A0pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
You're pathetic!
EHWol...@aol.com
And now, it spreads across the world. Remember folks, Jupiter/Saturn
conjunctions last for 20 years, and the interps I did were for the
world.
http://tinyurl.com/52c3x3
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2008 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
THE SUN http://www.edmondwollmann.com/
Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Arthurian One! http://home.earthlink.net/~arcturianone/
Dave U. Random
EHWol...@aol.com wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 8:43=A0pm, EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> > On Sep 15, 4:22=A0pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
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> In article <d42358a5-2d55-4c95-b33b-9e037de2b...@q35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
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> EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
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> > On Oct 1, 8:43=A0pm, EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
> > > On Sep 15, 4:22=A0pm, Edmond Wollmann <arcturian...@earthlink.net>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On November 29 2007 EHWollm...@aol.com wrote:
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