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J. White

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Jul 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/3/98
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Suzyqyou fires both barrels with:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the begininng,
>
<snip>
>
> How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth
> about something!

Well well well...if you give Ed enough rope...

<snip>

> Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
> deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting. He does
> not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art).

BA-DA-BOOM! So has the truth finally come out? Ed, is your degree in
art?

<snip>

> He even claims to hate his own sister because she is "fat".
>
> What a man.

Indeed, and what a counselor!

> I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is
> interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.

I can't wait to get my copy so I can make DIRECT comparisons to the
"lowly" and "pathetic" works of George and Lewi. It will also come in
handy when I run out of tp.

J. White
Susan is my hero :)

anonym™

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Suzyqyou wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>
> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> posts here. He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> because he *dumped* me. How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth
> about something!

It comes out in dribs and drabs, always contradicting his former
statements, much to his dismay.

>Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of my
> life? When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,
> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
> in one lump sum? The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took him
> "the rest of his life".
>
> BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
> could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
> unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
> chances with me?

Because he's a psychotic fuckhead?



> Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
> deceit.

True.

> His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting.

True.

> He does
> not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art).

BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! Do you know which one?

> He has told
> me "I don't like people"

They don't like him either.

> and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
> know what I'll do if I don't find one soon".

He'll blame other people for his failures, that's what he'll do.

> He has bragged about his "secret
> clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly line
> producing night goggles.

Hyuk!

> He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a real
> estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison
> term.

Hmmm. This sounds very much like a scam I heard about that was pulled by
some guy that lives in La Jolla now. What a stupid thing to brag
about......

> 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is "king"
> and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies".

Let us know when he's defeated one!

> He has no
> friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate


> his own sister because she is "fat".

And probably won't lend him any money.
>
> What a man.

I don't think so.
>
> He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
> receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
> non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what a
> hoot!) quite some time ago.

Oh, those excerpts are "nothing" like his book.

Those excerpts have at east seen the light of day!

> I was the lucky recipient of this *book*;

Maybe someday they'll develop a vaccine.

>it is
> interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.

And full of plagiarism.

> Ed Wollmann: September "96 "Are you going to expose me on the ng?"

Oui, oui!

Suzyqyou

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

>NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,

Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
posts here. He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
because he *dumped* me. How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth

about something! Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of my


life? When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,
hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
in one lump sum? The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took him
"the rest of his life".

BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
chances with me?

Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting. He does
not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art). He has told
me "I don't like people" and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
know what I'll do if I don't find one soon". He has bragged about his "secret


clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly line

producing night goggles. He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a real


estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison

term. 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is "king"
and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies". He has no


friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate
his own sister because she is "fat".

What a man.

He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what a

hoot!) quite some time ago. I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is


interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.

Susan

Babydoll-

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Wow - where you Edmonds girlfriend?


Suzyqyou wrote in message
<199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
<snip>

Ann Shermann

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In article <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

suzy...@aol.com (Suzyqyou) wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>
> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> posts here. He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> because he *dumped* me. How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the
truth
> about something! Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of
my
> life? When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,
> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
> in one lump sum? The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took
him
> "the rest of his life".

So who cares but the two of you?


>
> BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
> could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
> unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
> chances with me?

So who cares? You think anybody with any integrity or dignity displays their
failed relationships on UseNet?


> Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
> deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting. He does
> not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art). He has
told
> me "I don't like people" and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
> know what I'll do if I don't find one soon". He has bragged about his "secret
> clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly
line
> producing night goggles. He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a
real
> estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison
> term. 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is
"king"
> and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies". He has no
> friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate
> his own sister because she is "fat".

What kind of woman are you? Linda Tripp's?

>
> What a man.

What a sad woman you must be to take your personal pain to the international
level.

>
> He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
> receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
> non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what
a
> hoot!) quite some time ago. I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is
> interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.
>
> Susan

What is boring, Susan, is to see a woman publish this kind of personal
vengence seeking clap-trap on an international forum. This is a forum for
the discussion of astrology. Ed Wollmann is one of thousands of astrologers
throughout the world who access this NG. If you have a legal cause of
action, take it to court. If you don't, then seek counseling so that you
might get over this rage which makes you demean yourself in an attempt to
demean E. Wollmann.

This is not soap opera digest, this is alt.astrology.

Ann Shermann

> Ed Wollmann: September "96 "Are you going to expose me on the ng?"
>


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Edmond Wollmann

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Suzyqyou wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,

> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> posts here.

I still deny it, you never said such a thing. You lost your temper like
a 5 year old and then recanted apologizing for your obvious
temperamental outbursts-just like you will do here.

> He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> because he *dumped* me.

You are, here's the letter where I told you adios;

From - Sat Jan 18 22:54:17 1997
Message-ID: <32E1C5...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:54:17 -0800
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Susan Boyle <10367...@compuserve.com>
Subject: Finished
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Please do not write me anymore I have killfiled you.
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1996 Astrological Consulting/Altair Publications

Here's where you wrote back threatening like a psycho;

Message-ID: <32EAF2...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:57:59 -0800
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Garrett J. Smith" <10367...@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Regarding loan
References: <970126051134_10...@CompuServe.COM>
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Garrett J. Smith wrote:

> Your a truly a ridiculous and absurd little man.

Well, I am just me, glad you are now telling me what you really feel
about me.

> Watch your fallacious assertions about yourself and all your supposed
"clients"
> on the newsgroup. I will be.

I don't understand this threat, I don't say anything that isn't true so
I don't know what you are threatening me with.

> Have fun with my $550 and the $400 scanner I purchased for you to help you
> finish your boring book.
> Maybe you will find some other nice person to trash,
> that is rather obviously your m.o.

In case you have forgotten, it is you who has trashed me both times-I am
just not foolish enough to continue to number 3.
Well if thats all you can get out of what I have said then I feel sorry
for you. You are really proving your true intentions here-did I resort
to calling you names? I don't remember doing that to you, and here you
are threatening me and all sorts of name calling.

> Don't ever write or contact me again. You are surely the most wretched and
> miserable little worm I have ever known.

Alright, but I had already decided not to, worm now huh? Alright. I
think its obvious who's childish.
Goodbye Susan

> How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth
> about something! Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of my
> life?

Do you ever stop to think how stupid you look doing this over and over?

> When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,
> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
> in one lump sum?

You never sent me a 1000 dollars you lying piece of shit, and the
letters above prove it. Are you ready to return my gifts?
You sent me 500 dollars that you insisted I not pay back how many times
must I post this?;

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Dear Eddy,

I found out today I'll get half my check on Saturday so will wire you
$250 and then the rest of it on the 4th when I get another check. Is
that OK? I feel anxious about not sending you the whole amount. Also,
honey, please do not be offended but I don't lend money, I GIVE it. If
you try to send it back it will REALLY hurt my feelings and I don't
think it's wise to have hurt feelings over silly $ when you're in love,
do you? Pls don't argue with me because I will be quite stubborn and
adamant about this, you won't change my mind and I'll just get upset!
So I will send it Saturday and not another word between us about this.
What's mine is yours, do you see?

You were so sweet and sounded so concerned on the phone, that was really
nice and I love you for it.

--
Yes I see, it was 500 and you will get mad if I pay it back-so I won't.

> The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took him
> "the rest of his life".

Do you have any proof vindictive B$#$#%@%$%?



> BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
> could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
> unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
> chances with me?

Bwahahahahah!!! Blew my chances!!!!??? Please review the letters above.
If you act this way after three days and two nights, is there any man
reading who cannot imagine what your poor husband of 15 YEARS goes
through??? I have LOST nothing-thank God I know that everything happens
for a positive reason-and what a positive thing to relieve myself of
you!

> Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
> deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting.

Blah, blah.

> He does
> not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art).

Wrong!

> He has told
> me "I don't like people" and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
> know what I'll do if I don't find one soon".

Wrong!

> He has bragged about his "secret
> clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly line
> producing night goggles.

Wrong!

> He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a real
> estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison
> term.

For what? Bwahahahaha! You've lost your mind!

> 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is "king"
> and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies". He has no
> friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate
> his own sister because she is "fat".

Yawn. Boy you are the scum of the earth eh?

> What a man.



> He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
> receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
> non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what a
> hoot!) quite some time ago. I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is
> interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.

Gee, you are a liar then here's what you said of my book BEFORE I dumped
you;

Subject: Re: Apollo speaks of Karma
Date: 24 Aug 96 00:41:37 EDT
From: "Garrett J. Smith " <103674.201 @CompuServe.COM>
To: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>

Eddie,
When I think of all the people who purchase sophomoric books like "When
Bad Things Happen to Good People", I cannot help but consider how much
more they could be helped if they had your book instead. The papers
that I have read thus far are elegantly written and beautifully
articulated, with self empowerment perfectly integrated with basic
astrological tenets. I have combed the bookstores here for something
like this, but have never found it! Who has bought your articles? How
long do you think it will be before the book comes to fruition?
(I then told her PRECISELY summer of 98)
I believe it has been a while since a truly meaningful book re:
astrology has been published; correct? It would seem as though the time
is right, Edmond.
My reference to your winged feet was in regard to your running..
(snip of children discussion) Can you please help me determine any
Saturnine (?) significance in her chart? I wish I had consulted with
you. Have you provided any counsel to anyone with the same or similar
conditions??
Oh, Eddie I do long to just talk and talk with you, look into your eyes
and find the beautiful soul that I have known and would know again.
Feel wistful and nostalgic this evening. You are with me, I want you in
front of me. Patience is not my long suit.
With warmth, respect, admiration and love for you darling,
Susan

> Susan


>
> Ed Wollmann: September "96 "Are you going to expose me on the ng?"

WHAT a liar, You were writing me on how yopu missed me in Sept of 96;

Date: 16 Sep 96 23:18:08 EDT
From: "Garrett J. Smith " <10367...@CompuServe.COM>
To: Eddy <wol...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Bellyaching
Message-ID: <960917031808103674.201 JHQ...@CompuServe.COM>

Hello darling,
Remember me? The women you held in your arms two nights ago?
Whew..what a day. Amanda was sick this morning so picked her up at
school.
Went into the office; we got ANOTHER ST study; 200 patients so not
huge but time consuming cuz it's ST..
Wish I was still there. I don't know how I will do with separation
from you.
It's really hard.
I love you.

Will read your post re: addiction tonight. Am excited about it!
Was this something you wrote associated with our conversation? Or long
ago?

Miss your touch.
Susan
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1998 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/Default.htm

Edmond Wollmann

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Sock puppet alert!!!

Edmond Wollmann

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Klaus.S...@home.ivm.de wrote:

> >
> > Re: "Truth Trumps Spin"

> > From: "Babydoll-" <baby...@nospam.rocketmail.com>
> > References:
> > <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
> >Wow - where you Edmonds girlfriend?

> >Suzyqyou wrote in message
> ><199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> >>Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> ><snip>

> Fortunately Eddy got rid of her by now.

> Klaus Schilling

I got rid of her a year and a half ago, but you see the propaganda
machine wants my book to fail-too bad,
I have the charts they have the spin -unfortunately for them-I will
win!
--
"I'm the greatest and I'm pretty!" Another Leo ascendant-Mohammud Ali

Edmond Wollmann

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Babydoll- wrote:

> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> life?

I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
lives.

J. White

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

Now this is funny...

Ed writes:

> Please do not write me anymore I have killfiled you.

YET his own headers say he is/was using Netscape 3.01...

> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
> MIME-Version: 1.0

Netscape 3.01 has no way to killfile.

J. White
Scorpio Rising

J. White

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> Sock puppet alert!!!

Really? Are you planning to bombard us all with more of you sock puppet
supporters? Well thanks for the heads up, but frankly they are all too
easy to spot.

J. White
Scorpio Rising

Edmond Wollmann

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J. White wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> Now this is funny...

> Ed writes:

> > Please do not write me anymore I have killfiled you.

> YET his own headers say he is/was using Netscape 3.01...

> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
> > MIME-Version: 1.0

> Netscape 3.01 has no way to killfile.

> J. White
> Scorpio Rising

Wrong this was going to my Eudora account-anyway this tells us of what
you think killfile means-when I say it -it means I will ignore them even
IF they get through. I am not weak willed like you and sherilyn.

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Edmond Wollmann

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Babydoll- wrote:

> To all those women that have let Eddie into their lives I give you my
> condolances.

> To Eddie if you have had many women in your life it may indicate you are
> emotionally unstable and unable to sustain a long term relationship. I
> sympathise with you - although at your age you would have been able to
> solve your problems by now.

Who says I NEED "one" Relationship to be healthy?

> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
> <35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> > Babydoll- wrote:

> > > Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in
> Suzyqyou's
> > > life?

> > I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> > lives.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Suzyqyou wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>
> > Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> > posts here.
>
> I still deny it, you never said such a thing.
SNIP

> > Maybe you will find some other nice person to trash,
> > that is rather obviously your m.o.
>
> In case you have forgotten, it is you who has trashed me both times-


BWAHAHAHAHA!

See, Ed! SHe DID tell you to fuck off at LEAST TWICE! ANd you just
admitted it, you fuckin' DUMBSHIT!

>I am
> just not foolish enough to continue to number 3.

Yes, you were.

> Well if thats all you can get out of what I have said then I feel sorry
> for you. You are really proving your true intentions here-did I resort
> to calling you names? I don't remember doing that to you,

I sure fuckin' do.

> and here you
> are threatening me and all sorts of name calling.

Want a kleenex, crybaby?


>
> > Don't ever write or contact me again. You are surely the most wretched and
> > miserable little worm I have ever known.
>
> Alright, but I had already decided not to, worm now huh?

That's right, worm. She told you not to write or contact her, and you
wnet ahead and DID IT ANYWAY!

That's CRIMINAL HARASSMENT, Fuckhead!

> Alright. I
> think its obvious who's childish.
> Goodbye Susan
>
> > How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth
> > about something! Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of my
> > life?
>
> Do you ever stop to think how stupid you look doing this over and over?

Actually, the ration of YOUR posts to hers on the subject are about
10:1, so if you don't mind looking 10 times stupider, feel free to keep
on posting!

Just keep in mind that Ann Shermann thinks you have no dignity or
intergrity when you spill your personal life onto Usenet like this!


>
> > When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,
> > hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
> > in one lump sum?
>
> You never sent me a 1000 dollars you lying piece of shit,

Ah, Ed, the senstive counselor who never called her names...

> and the
> letters above prove it. Are you ready to return my gifts?
> You sent me 500 dollars that you insisted I not pay back how many times
> must I post this?;

However many times you like, it still does not erase the commitment you
madeon May 6 98 to repay her . Pay the woman, you crook.SNIP

> --
> Yes I see, it was 500 and you will get mad if I pay it back-so I won't.

Ed Wollmann, 5/6/98: "You said it was a gift, but I will repay it just
to shut you up. I'm glad you are content with your actions because they
have cemented our positions."

>
> > The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took him
> > "the rest of his life".
>
> Do you have any proof vindictive B$#$#%@%$%?

Ed Wollmann, 5/6/98: "You said it was a gift, but I will repay it just
to shut you up. I'm glad you are content with your actions because they
have cemented our positions."


>
> > BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
> > could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
> > unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
> > chances with me?
>
> Bwahahahahah!!! Blew my chances!!!!??? Please review the letters above.
> If you act this way after three days and two nights, is there any man
> reading who cannot imagine what your poor husband of 15 YEARS goes
> through??? I have LOST nothing-

Except for a chance at some PUSSAY with some real MONNAIE!

>thank God I know that everything happens
> for a positive reason-and what a positive thing to relieve myself of
> you!

You guys did water sports?


>
> > Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
> > deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting.
>
> Blah, blah.

Notice he does not deny it.


>
> > He does
> > not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art).
>
> Wrong!
>
> > He has told
> > me "I don't like people" and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
> > know what I'll do if I don't find one soon".
>
> Wrong!

You WOULD say that, Ed. Of course, that's a more vehement denial than
your initial, weak, "I told her I like animals better than people, yes",
or similar words to that effect.


>
> > He has bragged about his "secret
> > clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly line
> > producing night goggles.
>
> Wrong!

Okay. Night VISION goggles!


>
> > He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a real
> > estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison
> > term.
>
> For what? Bwahahahaha! You've lost your mind!

Eddie. Don't fuck around on this one. Bad shit is coming down.


>
> > 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is "king"
> > and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies". He has no
> > friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate
> > his own sister because she is "fat".
>
> Yawn. Boy you are the scum of the earth eh?

Again, no denial. And no MONNAIE from Fat Sis, either, eh, Eddie?


>
> > What a man.
>
> > He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
> > receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
> > non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what a
> > hoot!) quite some time ago. I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is
> > interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.
>
> Gee, you are a liar then here's what you said of my book BEFORE I dumped
> you;

SNIP!


> >
> > Ed Wollmann: September "96 "Are you going to expose me on the ng?"
>
> WHAT a liar, You were writing me on how yopu missed me in Sept of 96;

30 days hath September.

SNIP!

.

Edmond Wollmann

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anonym™ wrote:
SNIP!
Suzyqyou wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,

> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> posts here.

I still deny it, you never said such a thing. You lost your temper like

> Maybe you will find some other nice person to trash,
> that is rather obviously your m.o.

In case you have forgotten, it is you who has trashed me both times-I am


just not foolish enough to continue to number 3.

Well if thats all you can get out of what I have said then I feel sorry
for you. You are really proving your true intentions here-did I resort

to calling you names? I don't remember doing that to you, and here you


are threatening me and all sorts of name calling.

> Don't ever write or contact me again. You are surely the most wretched and
> miserable little worm I have ever known.

Alright, but I had already decided not to, worm now huh? Alright. I


think its obvious who's childish.
Goodbye Susan

> How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth
> about something! Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of my
> life?

Do you ever stop to think how stupid you look doing this over and over?

> When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,


> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
> in one lump sum?

You never sent me a 1000 dollars you lying piece of shit, and the


letters above prove it. Are you ready to return my gifts?
You sent me 500 dollars that you insisted I not pay back how many times
must I post this?;

Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46])

Dear Eddy,

--


Yes I see, it was 500 and you will get mad if I pay it back-so I won't.

> The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took him


> "the rest of his life".

Do you have any proof vindictive B$#$#%@%$%?

> BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
> could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
> unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
> chances with me?

Bwahahahahah!!! Blew my chances!!!!??? Please review the letters above.
If you act this way after three days and two nights, is there any man
reading who cannot imagine what your poor husband of 15 YEARS goes

through??? I have LOST nothing-thank God I know that everything happens


for a positive reason-and what a positive thing to relieve myself of
you!

> Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of


> deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting.

Blah, blah.

> He does


> not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art).

Wrong!

> He has told
> me "I don't like people" and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
> know what I'll do if I don't find one soon".

Wrong!

> He has bragged about his "secret


> clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly line
> producing night goggles.

Wrong!

> He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a real


> estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison
> term.

For what? Bwahahahaha! You've lost your mind!

> 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is "king"


> and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies". He has no
> friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate
> his own sister because she is "fat".

Yawn. Boy you are the scum of the earth eh?

> What a man.

> He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
> receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
> non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what a
> hoot!) quite some time ago. I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is
> interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.

Gee, you are a liar then here's what you said of my book BEFORE I dumped
you;

Subject: Re: Apollo speaks of Karma

> Ed Wollmann: September "96 "Are you going to expose me on the ng?"

WHAT a liar, You were writing me on how yopu missed me in Sept of 96;

Date: 16 Sep 96 23:18:08 EDT

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

>
> Babydoll- wrote:
> >
> > Wow - where you Edmonds girlfriend?
> >
> > Suzyqyou wrote in message
> > <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> > >Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > >
> > <snip>
>
> Sock puppet alert!!!

Ed Wollmann, whose nose is highly sensitive to he smell of puppet socks,
and in fact, can discern the identities of each of his 50 plus sock
puppet identities merely by smell alone, is also prone to false alarms.

False alarm, you lying, spamming, threatening, harassing, censorious
asshole.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > life?
>
> I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> lives.

Briefly, until they realize what a schmuck and a mooch he is.

Then they kick him out on his scrawny ass.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Klaus.S...@home.ivm.de wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Re: "Truth Trumps Spin"
>
> > > From: "Babydoll-" <baby...@nospam.rocketmail.com>
> > > References:
> > > <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
> > >Wow - where you Edmonds girlfriend?
>
> > >Suzyqyou wrote in message
> > ><199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> > >>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > ><snip>
>
> > Fortunately Eddy got rid of her by now.
>
> > Klaus Schilling
>
> I got rid of her a year and a half ago,

But not the debts he owes her.

> but you see the propaganda
> machine wants my book to fail-too bad,

It does? That's not a very nice machine!

> I have the charts

Sales charts? For your book?

Let's see 'em!

>they have the spin -unfortunately for them-I will
> win!

You already have! Remember? You told us all you're "the richest, most
successful person on Earth!!!!"

Only you sure sound pretty bitter about the accomodations....

.

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

>
> Ann Shermann wrote:
>
> > In article <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> > suzy...@aol.com (Suzyqyou) wrote:
>
> > > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > > >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>
> Snip of arrogant Susy garbage.

Too bad you didn't snip the part where you ADMIT she dumped you first;
something you've lied about before.


>
> > So who cares? You think anybody with any integrity or dignity displays their
> > failed relationships on UseNet?
>

> You see Ann,

You're right for once. Ed has no dignity or integrity and he displays
his failed relationships on UseNet. He used to to the same undignified
thing when talking about his divorce and custody batle.

> I WAS correct,

Once, when he was five.

> because the only reason ANYONE who simply
> spent a couple of days with me would WANT to do this is for ulterior
> motives.

Wrong. She did it because she wanted a bold fling and you fed her all
sorts of crap and she bought it.

But only for acouple days.

>It simply does not make sense that because I mentioned her name
> as the most likely candidate to be trying to defame me (because of her
> published threats)

YOU published them! BWAHAHAHAHAH!

> that she would go to such lengths to harass me more
> now. This especially after she was trying to probe me for more info just
> this February. And what would someone so disgruntled be writing me in
> February wanting to meet me again for?

To get back the money you owed, and STILL owe her!

>
> > What a sad woman you must be to take your personal pain to the international
> > level.
>

> I don't think she has a heart to have any pain with.

What a sad man you must be to take your personal pain to the
international level.

> This was quite
> noticeable when she visited.

But you took her MONNAIE and fucked her PUSSAY ANYway! Which makes YOU
the cold, heartless SOB!

> All she was concerned about was what I
> was-

Because the reality did not jibe with the ad.

>just like the spin doctors here. People attracted to each other for
> romantic reasons don't ask you "what's in that cabinet" (the one I keep
> locked in my home)-which told me a lot right there.

Yeah, it told you that you're on fucking paranoid guy!


>
> > What is boring, Susan, is to see a woman publish this kind of personal
> > vengence seeking clap-trap on an international forum. This is a forum for
> > the discussion of astrology. Ed Wollmann is one of thousands of astrologers
> > throughout the world who access this NG. If you have a legal cause of
> > action, take it to court. If you don't, then seek counseling so that you
> > might get over this rage which makes you demean yourself in an attempt to
> > demean E. Wollmann.
>

> True, if I am so bad

You is.

>and she is so great, I am sure that she can find a
> new man who will take this crap from her-someone like Rick Ellis or Rick
> Lazzarini. Casper milktoasts.

Oooh! Eddie the macho matchstick!

Are you obsessed with guys named "Rick" or something? Jealous because of
the suave name they have?

The lead character in "Casablanca" wasn't named "Edmond H." for a good
reason!


>
> > This is not soap opera digest, this is alt.astrology.
>

> Well, anyone so willing can do as I have instructed

As he has "instructed"! Sieg Heil!

> and send complaints
> to TOSu...@aol.com. Which I will do and is the proper thing if she
> keeps on posting off topic like this.

How is it that when SHE does it, you consider it off-topic, but when you
and Ann discuss it, you don't consider it off-topic?

What kind of lowlife sleazy hypocritical bastard are you?

Edmond Wollmann

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Lady Nidiffer wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> >Babydoll- wrote:

> >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> >> life?

> >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> >lives.

> Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> >Babydoll- wrote:

> >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> >> life?

> >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> >lives.

> And he shows disrespect to all of them.

If you think Suzyque deserves respect you are disturbed.

> " You could very well be a rich bitch I have
> pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann

And we all know which one now.

Edmond Wollmann

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anonym™ wrote:
SNIP!
Suzyqyou wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,

> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> posts here.

I still deny it, you never said such a thing. You lost your temper like
a 5 year old and then recanted apologizing for your obvious
temperamental outbursts-just like you will do here.

> He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> because he *dumped* me.

You are, here's the letter where I told you adios;

From - Sat Jan 18 22:54:17 1997
Message-ID: <32E1C5...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:54:17 -0800
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Susan Boyle <10367...@compuserve.com>
Subject: Finished
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
Content-Length: 281

Please do not write me anymore I have killfiled you.

--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.

© 1996 Astrological Consulting/Altair Publications

Dear Eddy,

Blah, blah.

Wrong!

Wrong!

Wrong!

Miss your touch.
Susan

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > To all those women that have let Eddie into their lives I give you my
> > condolances.
>
> > To Eddie if you have had many women in your life it may indicate you are
> > emotionally unstable and unable to sustain a long term relationship. I
> > sympathise with you - although at your age you would have been able to
> > solve your problems by now.
>
> Who says I NEED "one" Relationship to be healthy?
>
Well, you've had a shitload and you ain't mentally healthy now, not by a
long shot.

Edmond Wollmann

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anonym™ wrote:
I said:

> > I am not weak willed like you and sherilyn.

> No, you are far worse!

> You say you are leaving for good...then you come back!

> You say you are suing....nothing happens!

> You say you will not respond to me....and then you do!

> You say you will only respond to reasoned judgement...and spend all your
> time attacking what you call ridiculous statements!

> You say you are going to repay a person money you owe them...and then
> reneg!

Ah, ah GAVE me, and no I aint.

> You are Usenet's most weak-willed, but biggest ASSHOLE!

I also said since "when do scum deserve any truth"-you left that one out
as usual for your convenience to spin garbage.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> anonym™ wrote:
> SNIP!
> Suzyqyou wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>
> > Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> > posts here.
>
> I still deny it, you never said such a thing.

Of course, Ed will deny something, and then the truth will come out and
show how he lied in his denial.

>You lost your temper like a 5 year old

And made Ed jealous because he's only capable of losing his temper like
a 3 year old:

"Do you imbeciles remember how many THOUSANDS of posts you crybabies
spent saying first I didn't HAVE a book?-then that I didn't have an
ISBN?? Then I didn't this and didn't that??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
I'll be retired and you idiots will still be saying BBBBbbuuuuuuttttt
bbbuttt-he does't have a, a, a, a Spaceship!!!! Yeah, yeah that's the
ticket-he doesn't have a spcaeship! I'll bet he DOESN"T have a
spaceship!
Fishing, degenerate, negating-SPINIC.
SNIPPPERDOODLE!!!!"

> and then recanted apologizing for your obvious
> temperamental outbursts-just like you will do here.

Hold your breath, Ed. ;-)


>
> > He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> > because he *dumped* me.
>
> You are, here's the letter where I told you adios;
>

snip


>
> Please do not write me anymore I have killfiled you.

which was well after SHE told YOU to fuck off....TWICE!

Of course you wanted to ignore her..you owed her money!


>
> Here's where you wrote back threatening like a psycho;

snip

>
> Garrett J. Smith wrote:
>
> > Your a truly a ridiculous and absurd little man.
>
> Well, I am just me, glad you are now telling me what you really feel
> about me.
>
> > Watch your fallacious assertions about yourself and all your supposed
> "clients"
> > on the newsgroup. I will be.
>
> I don't understand this threat,

Me neither. In fact, there is no threat!

> I don't say anything that isn't true

Oh, BULLSHIT you fucking LIAR!

"I DO NOT EVER send anyone e-mail" Ed Wollmann, liar.

(I have email from him that proves his statement false. Thus, he's a
liar)

"I now have two psychology degrees" Ed Wollmann, liar.

(He is two weeks, by his own admission, from finishing the requirements
for his second degree. He ain't got the second one yet. Thus, he's a
liar)

"I never spammed" Ed Wollmann, liar.

(Ed Wollmann was tossed from AOL for spamming. Another Ed lie!)

"I have NEVER been incorrect!" Ed Wollmann, liar.

(Ed was incorrect in his aim when he jumped out of a tree to land on a
horse and missed and hit the ground. More Wollmann lies™)

"Nobody HAS to do anything!" Ed Wollmann, liar.

(People HAVE to consume oxygen and nutrients in order to survive. A Bad
Ed lie)


"...As a student of
astrology for 23 years and a counseling astrologer for 18..." Ed
Wollmann, liar.

"I have counseled for 20 years..."! Ed Wollmann, liar.
(These quotes are contradictory. One is a lie. Ed Wollmann is a liar)

"LazzWaldo was kicked of of AOL 7 times" Ed Wollmann, Liar

"LazzWaldo was kicked of of AOL 5 times" Ed Wollmann, Liar
(These quotes are contradictory. One is a lie. Ed Wollmann is a liar)

"I am leaving this newsgroup-for good" Ed Wollmann, Liar

"I am going to stay off because you sherilyn, ansd Rick Ellis are now
> >getting my friends and anyone who supports me accounts canceled," Ed Wollman, Liar

(He came back. He used this lie three times!)

"I have proven that repeatedly with him already." Ed Wollmann, Liar.

"NOTHING is EVER proven!": Ed Wollmann, Liar
(These quotes are contradictory. One is a lie. Ed Wollmann is a liar)


SNIP!

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Lady Nidiffer wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> > >Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > >> life?
>
> > >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> > >lives.
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> > >Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > >> life?
>
> > >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> > >lives.
>
> > And he shows disrespect to all of them.
>
> If you think Suzyque deserves respect you are disturbed.

If you think Eddie thinks very much differently than Tim McVeigh you
should have another think.


>
> > " You could very well be a rich bitch I have
> > pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann
>
> And we all know which one now.

You pissed her off because you're such a lying asshole and wouldn' pay
back the money you scammed from her.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:


SNIP

Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Ann Shermann wrote:
>
> > In article <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

> > suzy...@aol.com (Suzyqyou) wrote:
>
> > > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > > >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>

Babydoll-

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Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
life?

Edmond Wollmann <Pleia...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
<6npa5a$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...


> Babydoll- wrote:
> >
> > Wow - where you Edmonds girlfriend?
> >
> > Suzyqyou wrote in message
> > <199807040355...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> > >Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> > >
> > <snip>
>

> Sock puppet alert!!!

Babydoll-

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To all those women that have let Eddie into their lives I give you my
condolances.

To Eddie if you have had many women in your life it may indicate you are
emotionally unstable and unable to sustain a long term relationship. I
sympathise with you - although at your age you would have been able to
solve your problems by now.

Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> Babydoll- wrote:
>

> > Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in
Suzyqyou's
> > life?
>

Lady Nidiffer

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Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...


>Babydoll- wrote:
>
>> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
>> life?
>
>I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
>lives.


Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...


>Babydoll- wrote:
>
>> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
>> life?
>
>I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
>lives.

And he shows disrespect to all of them.

" You could very well be a rich bitch I have


pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann

--
Lady Nidiffer P.M.A.F.A.
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Tom Kerr

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>
>Wrong this was going to my Eudora account-anyway this tells us of what
>you think killfile means-when I say it -it means I will ignore them even

>IF they get through. I am not weak willed like you and sherilyn.

So why were you replying to an email of hers AFTER you claimed to
have killfiled her?

Can't you keep any of your stories straight?

The relevant parts of the headers follow:

>Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:54:17 -0800
>From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
>Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: Susan Boyle <10367...@compuserve.com>

This was the email in which you said you had killfiled her.

Then we get:

>Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:57:59 -0800
>From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
>Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: "Garrett J. Smith" <10367...@CompuServe.COM>

You clearly weren't ignoring her were you?

You're lying again.

tr...@beauty.com

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Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<35A061...@earthlink.net>...

> Lady Nidiffer wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A034...@earthlink.net>...
> > >Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in
Suzyqyou's
> > >> life?

<SNIPPAWHATAWONDERFULDAY>

> > And he shows disrespect to all of them.
>

> If you think Suzyque deserves respect you are disturbed.

So, do you always sleep with women that you don't respect,
Eddie? By your own words, you have just confirmed that you
are an abuser and have no self-respect. Typical astrologer traits.

Anyone who could look at you naked in bed without immediately
projectile vomiting deserves respect in my book, Eddie.

>
> > " You could very well be a rich bitch I have
> > pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann
>

> And we all know which one now.

Ol' 'love 'em and leave 'em' Eddie - you've got to treat marks better than
that if you expect to move out of that refrigerator box someday.


"If they wish to post on topic with respectful questioning and
learning, that is welcome, but attacking things you have no
information about and calling people liars and frauds etc.
is NOT what this group is for, is NOT an argument and IS NOT
GOING TO BE TOLERATED!"

"Why if I am so goofy have I had a career of counsel and even a
secret clearance from the US government?"

"Since when do scum deserve any truth?"

"... many of you cynics in sci.skeptic are as good
as dead." (apparent death threat posted by Eddie)

"BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
I'll be retired and you idiots will still be saying
BBBBbbuuuuuuttttt bbbuttt-he does't have a, a, a, a
Spaceship!!!! Yeah, yeah that's the ticket-he doesn't
have a spcaeship! I'll bet he DOESN"T have a spaceship!
Fishing, degenerate, negating-SPINIC.
SNIPPPERDOODLE!!!!

"EAT SHIT YOU UGLY BITCH !!!!!!"

Edmond H. Wollmann KOTM/LMA in alt.astrology
(taking the tinfoil helmet off)

TRUTH

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> anonym™ wrote:
> I said:
>
> > > I am not weak willed like you and sherilyn.
>
> > No, you are far worse!
>
> > You say you are leaving for good...then you come back!
>
> > You say you are suing....nothing happens!
>
> > You say you will not respond to me....and then you do!
>
> > You say you will only respond to reasoned judgement...and spend all your
> > time attacking what you call ridiculous statements!
>
> > You say you are going to repay a person money you owe them...and then
> > reneg!
>
> Ah, ah GAVE me, and no I aint.

WRONG.

From 1998/05/06 Message-ID: <35510D...@earthlink.net>

snip

> Ed is a professional student, living on grants and loans to attend SDSU and the
> occasional article (he has posted a lot of them here) he sells to astrology
> magazines. He told me several times that he had not had a paying client for
> years;

I did not you lying B$#%#@#%#! I said I gave up advertising and only had
a trickle while I was working on my book when I was living with Ms
%##$#%$#. When I broke up with her unexpectedly, I had to change my
plans which is why I had the financial problems for a while-big deal-it
didn't bother me. But I have had clients EVERY YEAR and I have books to
prove that.

> he has now stated that he had no clients as he was busy writing his
> book. I foolishly lent him some money in January of 1997 when he told me he
> didn't have enough to eat for his son and could not pay his rent.

Actually it was December of 96 and it was a very difficult time yes. No
problem I have been through far worse.

> This loan
> remains unpaid, despite his recent assertion on this ng that his financial
> situation is now stable.



You said it was a gift, but I will repay it just to shut you up. I'm
glad you are content with your actions because they have cemented our
positions.

SNIP

end of reposted message.

> > You are Usenet's most weak-willed, but biggest ASSHOLE!
>
> I also said since "when do scum deserve any truth"-you left that one out
> as usual for your convenience to spin garbage.

Oh, but I recently revisited that quote of yours, comparing the
situational ethics of it to a similar utterance by another dangerous
kook!:

"Where is the crime in getting even?-Timothy McVeigh

"Since when do scum deserve any truth?-Ed Wollmann

"In all honesty, I cannot even dream of repaying
you the $1,000 which you say I owe. In fact, I can barely afford my
monthly rent ...Go ahead, take everything I own; take my dignity. Feel
good as you grow fat and rich at my expense..."--Timothy McVeigh


"you are a spoiled little rich girl
and think you were going to twist a Taurus with Leo ascending to do your
will with promises of money and security. You told me several times
about how much money you had and how you had an art store etc. like all
this would drop me to my knees and kiss your ass-you learned a lesson;
Not everyone gives their power to money and the illusions of
power."--Wollmann

"I said I would give the gift back if she had changed her mind. She did
not respond to me either in e-mail or on the group but continued to spam
off topic about what I am-which I ain't, therefore I will not give any
gift back.--Wollmann


"Do you get it yet? By doing your evil job, you put me out of
work."--McVeigh

"I hope you feel better now-that somehow this punishes me for rejecting
you."--Wollmann


Spooky, Eh?

Hey Ed, what about:

"I have your address and will mail you the money. Please do not ever
write to me again. Best wishes." --Wollmann, 5/6/98

And we all know what happened to Timmy McVeigh...

Babydoll-

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Good one truth
tr...@beauty.com wrote in message <01bda8a1$089f4aa0$1588bfa8@aa1>...

Babydoll-

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Gosh you make me laugh Eddie - Suzyq is disturbed? Have you not looked at
yourself lately?

>If you think Suzyque deserves respect you are disturbed.
>

>> " You could very well be a rich bitch I have
>> pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann
>
>And we all know which one now.
>

Dr. John

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Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Babydoll- wrote:
>
>> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
>> life?
>

>I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
>lives.

At least until the restraining orders were issued.

John C. Kalinowski

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>
> Who says I NEED "one" Relationship to be healthy?
^^^^^^^^
> > Edmond Wollmann

Edhole,

You misspelled wealthy.


--
"A thousand bucks and a new scanner! YES, I am a great counseler."
Liar, kook, general scam artist

John C. Kalinowski

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>
> Who says I NEED "one" Relationship to be healthy?
^^^^^^^^
> > Edmond Wollmann

Edhole,

You misspelled wealthy.


--
"A thousand bucks, a new scanner, and I got laid in spite of my
teeny-wienie! YES, I am a great counseler."

Edmond Wollmann

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Since you bring this up-yes-but I was the one who issued them.

Edmond Wollmann

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Babydoll- wrote:

> Gosh you make me laugh Eddie - Suzyq is disturbed? Have you not looked at
> yourself lately?

Please define the problems you THINK you see with someone defending
themselves from a psycho woman who they spent one weekend with. What
sort of disturbed woman would continue such a campaign on a public
forum?? I have only had one client complain in 20 years-and that person
was given their money back and told to seek services elsewhere.
She needs to take some sort of responsibility for her decisions and stop
blaming others powerlessly. If she didn't mean what she said in those
letters then she needs to admit to lying to gain advantage.
Mars in Cancers do this-especially if negatively aspected. They make
decisions and then make mountains out of the consequences of their
actions instead of taking responsibility. In her case less than well
thought out actions-both then and now.

52. MARS IN CANCER
You are at a disadvantage, for the aggressive en-
ergetic urges work here through the defensive sectors
of the Vitasphere, and the result can more often than
not be an undermining of the very security you think
you are working for. In its best manifestation, this
makes you a gentle and peaceful soul, content to give
yourself to the establishing of a home and the rearing
of children. But this best manifestation is rare. You
will in any case think this is what you would want out
of life if-alas!-so many things did not demand at-
tention first! Women with this position have a curious
way of ruling the roost, at the same time that they
think they want a strong brave man to shield them
from the world. Men with this position frequently are
ruled by their women or by the psychological biases
rooted in the mother inheritance. You must constantly
strive to direct your energies; your passions, your intu-
itions, and prevent them from directing you. You tend
to try too hard, and, thus to lose the benefits of the free
flow of instinct. And through trying too hard, or de-
manding too much, you run the risk of endangering
the very security without which you never will express
your best self. Your fears are all too likely to get the
upper hand and to cause you to exaggerate little trou-
bles. You make mountains out of molehills, and the
mountains bring forth an avalanche on your head.
You take yourself and your private life too seriously;
and must beware of destructively directing into them
the energies that should be flowing out to the world
of business or society.
"Astrology For The Millions" Grant Lewi, Doubleday, Doran & Co.
1940 to 1980 Bantam and Llewellyn publishing houses of a tremendously
insightful astrologer.

Now tell me astrology doesn't work? :-)) My Jupiter/Uranus conjunction
(revelation-waking up-insight) is exactly conjunct her Mars/Sun
conjunction in Cancer in her 3rd of THINKING and mental perspective
square her Neptune/Saturn conjunction in 6 (analytical discernment in
preparation for relationship) in Libra (fears of rejection socially and
romantically).



> >If you think Suzyque deserves respect you are disturbed.

> >> " You could very well be a rich bitch I have
> >> pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann

> >And we all know which one now.
--

"If you can't find the truth where you are where else do you think you
will find it?" Buddha

anonym™

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Dr. John wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Babydoll- wrote:
> >
> >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> >> life?
> >
> >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> >lives.
>
> At least until the restraining orders were issued.

Or they found the unlocked doors and shut them tight.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > Gosh you make me laugh Eddie - Suzyq is disturbed? Have you not looked at
> > yourself lately?
>
> Please define the problems you THINK you see with someone defending
> themselves from a psycho woman who they spent one weekend with.

Please define "psycho"; if you do not include yourself in the
definition, then you are definitely a psycho.

>What
> sort of disturbed woman would continue such a campaign on a public
> forum??

The kind of woman who is disturbed by your reneging on a pledge and
promise to repay her money she loaned to you. The kind of woman who is
disturbed by your lying about her, and your invasions of her privacy..

> I have only had one client complain in 20 years-and that person
> was given their money back and told to seek services elsewhere.

Then again, he's had so few clients in recent years....

The other clients complained before they paid Ed and therefore not
really clients and they told Ed to go stick his head elsewhere and he
hates them for it.


> She needs to take some sort of responsibility for her decisions and stop
> blaming others powerlessly.

Ed needs to take some sort of responsibility for her decisions and stop
blaming others powerlessly.

> If she didn't mean what she said in those
> letters then she needs to admit to lying to gain advantage.

Either that or admit to sweet-talking you so you wouldn't balk and not
pay her what you owed her.


> Mars in Cancers do this-especially if negatively aspected. They make
> decisions and then make mountains out of the consequences of their
> actions instead of taking responsibility.

Then you must have Mars in Cancer, or astrology doesn't work.

>In her case less than well
> thought out actions-both then and now.

Yep. SHe should never have come down and visited a scumbag like you. She
regrets it to this day.


>
> 52. MARS IN CANCER
> You are at a disadvantage, for the aggressive en-
> ergetic urges work

SNIP of cookbook astrology primer-level bullshit.

>
> Now tell me astrology doesn't work?

Astrology deosn't work.

:-)) My Jupiter/Uranus conjunction
> (revelation-waking up-insight) is exactly conjunct her Mars/Sun
> conjunction in Cancer in her 3rd of THINKING

SNIP

Then why did you tell her you two were a perfect astrological match?

>
> > >If you think Suzyque deserves respect you are disturbed.
>
> > >> " You could very well be a rich bitch I have
> > >> pissed off, there have been a few you know." Edmond Wollmann
>
> > >And we all know which one now.

Eddie pisses off the rich bitches by demanding they support him.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Dr. John wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > >Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > >> life?
>
> > >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> > >lives.
>
> > At least until the restraining orders were issued.
>
> Since you bring this up-yes-but I was the one who issued them.

Good! You issued restraining orders against yourself, because you
realized what a dangerous, threatening, stalking psycho fuck you were!

Or did you issue restraining orders against women?

WHY, you big pussy?

Afraid of a woman?

Did they bother you, asking for their money back?

Pissed off rich bitches, and restraining orders filed.

(more public info! Gah-ROOVY!)

Yeah, Ed, what a MULTITUDE of fulfilling relationships you've had!

Restraining orders, eh, Ed? More public info! Gah-ROOVY!

Boy, is it ever gonna be one big-time spill!

Eddykeys

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Edmond Wollmann wrote concerning asshole anonym:

> and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? --

Well, if she doesn't perform in the sack the way he likes, he lets
the air out of her, puts her back in her package, takes her back
to the porn shop and asks for a refund.

dooch


Rick

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In article <35A034...@earthlink.net>,

Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
>> life?

>I have no problems,

You are either lying or deluded. Everybody has problems.

>I have been the man in many women's lives.

Translation: Edie's been dumped by many women.

Rick

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In article <6npa5a$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Sock puppet alert!!!

That's your feet!


Rick

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In article <6npa5a$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Sock puppet alert!!!

Too stupid to know how to read headers alert!!!


Rick

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In article <6nrqn3$ke6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Edmond Wollmann <woll...@astroconsulting.com> wrote:

>I was married for 9 years and my next relationship was 7 years. Let's ask
>Susan why she hasn't divorced her husband whiole she runs around on weekend
>juants- and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? --

Are we supposed to be impressed? Too many women stay with men that beat
the shit out of them. A couple of women staying with a mooch like you
doesn't surpise me. Nor does your lack of integrity evidenced by your
attempts to trash a woman that fell for your crap. I suspect you lie so
much because the only way you can sleep at night is to lie to yourself.
I'd have pity for you but I'll save it for those you've victimized.

--


"I did not you lying B$#%#@#%#!"

-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM

http://www.sidaway.demon.co.uk/astrology/lies/wollmann/edlies01.txt

Rick

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In article <359DB6...@hooked.net>, J. White <whit...@hooked.net> wrote:

>Well well well...if you give Ed enough rope...

And if you don't, he'll weave some himself.

Rick

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In article <6nmtkt$6ok$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
Ann Shermann <a...@mexia.com> wrote:

>So who cares but the two of you?

Would you like a list?


Rick

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In article <6npa4h$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
>> posts here.

>I still deny it, you never said such a thing.

And you've never posted lies.
Nor have you posted death threats.

--
"Wait till we meet in person ass hole I'll rip you a new one then too."

Rick

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In article <35A0F7...@earthlink.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
>> >lives.


>> At least until the restraining orders were issued.

>Since you bring this up-yes-but I was the one who issued them.

Then you won't mind our checking out your facts with the court records?


Rick

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In article <35A0F7...@earthlink.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Please define the problems you THINK you see with someone defending
>themselves from a psycho woman who they spent one weekend with.

Keep trying to spin it, Edie. With the hole you're digging you're
going to reach China before Christmas.


Rick

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In article <35A039...@hooked.net>, J. White <whit...@hooked.net> wrote:

>Netscape 3.01 has no way to killfile.

Does that mean he lied?


Edmond Wollmann

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In article <359FF1...@pacbell.net>,
ano...@pacbell.net wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> > Babydoll- wrote:

> > > Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > > life?

> > I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> > lives.

> Briefly, until they realize what a schmuck and a mooch he is.

> Then they kick him out on his scrawny ass.

I was married for 9 years and my next relationship was 7 years. Let's ask
Susan why she hasn't divorced her husband whiole she runs around on weekend
juants- and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? --

-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum

Edmond Wollmann

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Suzyqyou wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,

> Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> posts here.

I still deny it, you never said such a thing. You lost your temper like
a 5 year old and then recanted apologizing for your obvious
temperamental outbursts-just like you will do here.

> He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> because he *dumped* me.

You are, here's the letter where I told you adios;

>From - Sat Jan 18 22:54:17 1997
Message-ID: <32E1C5...@mail.sdsu.edu>


Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:54:17 -0800
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Susan Boyle <10367...@compuserve.com>

Subject: Finished
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
Content-Length: 281

Please do not write me anymore I have killfiled you.


--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.

© 1996 Astrological Consulting/Altair Publications

Here's where you wrote back threatening like a psycho;

Message-ID: <32EAF2...@mail.sdsu.edu>


Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:57:59 -0800
From: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Organization: Astrological Consulting, San Diego, USA
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Garrett J. Smith" <10367...@CompuServe.COM>

Subject: Re: Regarding loan
References: <970126051134_10...@CompuServe.COM>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
Content-Length: 1708

Garrett J. Smith wrote:

> Your a truly a ridiculous and absurd little man.

Well, I am just me, glad you are now telling me what you really feel
about me.

> Watch your fallacious assertions about yourself and all your supposed
"clients"
> on the newsgroup. I will be.

I don't understand this threat, I don't say anything that isn't true so
I don't know what you are threatening me with.

> Have fun with my $550 and the $400 scanner I purchased for you to help you
> finish your boring book.
> Maybe you will find some other nice person to trash,
> that is rather obviously your m.o.

In case you have forgotten, it is you who has trashed me both times-I am
just not foolish enough to continue to number 3.
Well if thats all you can get out of what I have said then I feel sorry
for you. You are really proving your true intentions here-did I resort
to calling you names? I don't remember doing that to you, and here you
are threatening me and all sorts of name calling.

> Don't ever write or contact me again. You are surely the most wretched and
> miserable little worm I have ever known.

Alright, but I had already decided not to, worm now huh? Alright. I
think its obvious who's childish.
Goodbye Susan

> How refreshing to read him *finally* telling the truth
> about something! Shall we move on to the next time I told him to get out of
my
> life?

Do you ever stop to think how stupid you look doing this over and over?

> When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing abusive,
> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him $1,000
> in one lump sum?

You never sent me a 1000 dollars you lying piece of shit, and the
letters above prove it. Are you ready to return my gifts?
You sent me 500 dollars that you insisted I not pay back how many times
must I post this?;

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Dear Eddy,

I found out today I'll get half my check on Saturday so will wire you
$250 and then the rest of it on the 4th when I get another check. Is
that OK? I feel anxious about not sending you the whole amount. Also,
honey, please do not be offended but I don't lend money, I GIVE it. If
you try to send it back it will REALLY hurt my feelings and I don't
think it's wise to have hurt feelings over silly $ when you're in love,
do you? Pls don't argue with me because I will be quite stubborn and
adamant about this, you won't change my mind and I'll just get upset!
So I will send it Saturday and not another word between us about this.
What's mine is yours, do you see?

You were so sweet and sounded so concerned on the phone, that was really
nice and I love you for it.

--
Yes I see, it was 500 and you will get mad if I pay it back-so I won't.

> The hand-out that he *insisted* on repaying me if it took him
> "the rest of his life".

Do you have any proof vindictive B$#$#%@%$%?

> BTW, Mr. Ed, I did not refer to anyone by name in my response to you. Now how
> could you automatically assume it was "Sue",
> unless you did write this letter, whining and complaining that you blew your
> chances with me?

Bwahahahahah!!! Blew my chances!!!!??? Please review the letters above.
If you act this way after three days and two nights, is there any man
reading who cannot imagine what your poor husband of 15 YEARS goes
through??? I have LOST nothing-thank God I know that everything happens
for a positive reason-and what a positive thing to relieve myself of
you!

> Ed Wollmann is a pathological liar who has difficulty maintaining his web of
> deceit. His pose as a "professional counselor" is really disgusting.

Blah, blah.

> He does
> not have a degree (except from a community college A.A. - in art).

Wrong!

> He has told
> me "I don't like people" and "I haven't had a real client in years, I don't
> know what I'll do if I don't find one soon".

Wrong!

> He has bragged about his "secret
> clearance from the government" that he actually got working on an assembly
line
> producing night goggles.

Wrong!

> He also fairly *chortled* when telling me about a real
> estate scam he ran a few years ago that should have landed him a long prison
> term.

For what? Bwahahahaha! You've lost your mind!

> 90% of his life is lived on alt.astrology where he believes he is "king"
> and must be "strategically effective" in "defeating his enemies". He has no
> friends save a rather interesting little group here. He even claims to hate
> his own sister because she is "fat".

Yawn. Boy you are the scum of the earth eh?

> What a man.

> He has spammed excerpts of his self-published (he had to do it himself after
> receiving rejections for years from publishers, both reputable and
> non-reputable) *book* on this ng since he began "contributing politely" (what
a
> hoot!) quite some time ago. I was the lucky recipient of this *book*; it is
> interesting only in that it is so uniformly boring and pedantic.

Gee, you are a liar then here's what you said of my book BEFORE I dumped
you;

Subject: Re: Apollo speaks of Karma
Date: 24 Aug 96 00:41:37 EDT
From: "Garrett J. Smith " <103674.201 @CompuServe.COM>
To: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>

Eddie,
When I think of all the people who purchase sophomoric books like "When
Bad Things Happen to Good People", I cannot help but consider how much
more they could be helped if they had your book instead. The papers
that I have read thus far are elegantly written and beautifully
articulated, with self empowerment perfectly integrated with basic
astrological tenets. I have combed the bookstores here for something
like this, but have never found it! Who has bought your articles? How
long do you think it will be before the book comes to fruition?
(I then told her PRECISELY summer of 98)
I believe it has been a while since a truly meaningful book re:
astrology has been published; correct? It would seem as though the time
is right, Edmond.
My reference to your winged feet was in regard to your running..
(snip of children discussion) Can you please help me determine any
Saturnine (?) significance in her chart? I wish I had consulted with
you. Have you provided any counsel to anyone with the same or similar
conditions??
Oh, Eddie I do long to just talk and talk with you, look into your eyes
and find the beautiful soul that I have known and would know again.
Feel wistful and nostalgic this evening. You are with me, I want you in
front of me. Patience is not my long suit.
With warmth, respect, admiration and love for you darling,
Susan

> Susan
>
> Ed Wollmann: September "96 "Are you going to expose me on the ng?"

WHAT a liar, You were writing me on how yopu missed me in Sept of 96;

Date: 16 Sep 96 23:18:08 EDT
From: "Garrett J. Smith " <10367...@CompuServe.COM>
To: Eddy <wol...@mail.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Bellyaching
Message-ID: <960917031808103674.201 JHQ...@CompuServe.COM>

Hello darling,
Remember me? The women you held in your arms two nights ago?
Whew..what a day. Amanda was sick this morning so picked her up at
school.
Went into the office; we got ANOTHER ST study; 200 patients so not
huge but time consuming cuz it's ST..
Wish I was still there. I don't know how I will do with separation
from you.
It's really hard.
I love you.

Will read your post re: addiction tonight. Am excited about it!
Was this something you wrote associated with our conversation? Or long
ago?

Miss your touch.
Susan
--
"Like a dog that returns to its vomit-is a fool who reverts to his folly. Do
you see persons wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for fools than for
them." Proverbs 26:11,12


--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1998 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/Default.htm

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Kel...@yahoo.com

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Edmond you restore my faith that some things are immutable...never changing.
The posting below, snipped after enough for identification, proves that you
are still a vulgar, small, meanspirited, callous, vindictive, morally
bankrupt and emotionally corrupt weasel.

Jeffrey L. Dunford
Reston, Va. -- So, are you coming for a drink? Answering yes or no inidcates
you have a shred of courage. Snip and complaint just proves the depths to
which you have sunk into cowardice.

In article <6npa4h$r...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,


arctu...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> Suzyqyou wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > >NOPE! Sue has no such letter. You dumped me once in the >begininng,
>
> > Wollmann has vehemently denied that I told him to drop dead on a number of
> > posts here.
>
> I still deny it, you never said such a thing. You lost your temper like
> a 5 year old and then recanted apologizing for your obvious
> temperamental outbursts-just like you will do here.
>
> > He has also attempted to portray me as a "vindictive woman"
> > because he *dumped* me.
>
> You are, here's the letter where I told you adios;
>
>

> Edmond H. Wollmann (ads snipped)

tr...@beauty.com

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Kel...@yahoo.com wrote in article <6nrv4v$sfm$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...


> Edmond you restore my faith that some things are immutable...never
changing.
> The posting below, snipped after enough for identification, proves that
you
> are still a vulgar, small, meanspirited, callous, vindictive, morally
> bankrupt and emotionally corrupt weasel.

Hey, careful there Jeffrey. By referring to Eddie as 'morally
bankrupt,' you besmirch the good name of people who can
at least find enough money between the sofa cushions to pay
the bankruptcy filing fee.


--
"If they wish to post on topic with respectful questioning and
learning, that is welcome, but attacking things you have no
information about and calling people liars and frauds etc.
is NOT what this group is for, is NOT an argument and IS NOT
GOING TO BE TOLERATED!"

"Why if I am so goofy have I had a career of counsel and even a
secret clearance from the US government?"

"Since when do scum deserve any truth?"

"... many of you cynics in sci.skeptic are as good
as dead." (apparent death threat posted by Eddie)

"BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!
I'll be retired and you idiots will still be saying
BBBBbbuuuuuuttttt bbbuttt-he does't have a, a, a, a
Spaceship!!!! Yeah, yeah that's the ticket-he doesn't
have a spcaeship! I'll bet he DOESN"T have a spaceship!
Fishing, degenerate, negating-SPINIC.
SNIPPPERDOODLE!!!!

"EAT SHIT YOU UGLY BITCH !!!!!!"

Edmond H. Wollmann KOTM/LMA in alt.astrology
(taking the tinfoil helmet off)

TRUTH


Suzyqyou

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

>I was married for 9 years and my next relationship was 7 years. >Let's ask
>Susan why she hasn't divorced her husband whiole she runs around >on weekend
>juants- and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? -

Whew. Ed, what a comeback, you must have stayed up all night coming up with a
new, unique way to try to spin me. So now you're going for unfaithful? Since
you've posted the above twice as a such a pithy response... I know! Maybe you
could now say anonym and I are married??!! Like, as in, we got married so we
could be in "cahoots" together, remember?? Or, maybe anonym was really my
husband?

One of the funniest things Ed ever said to me was while explaining why his old
girlfriend, "Ms. S.D." kicked him out of the house after she got tired of him
sponging off of her.

"I offered her the world, but she wanted a dress!"

Enough said.

Susan


Kel...@yahoo.com

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In article <01bda94c$a0f596a0$2788bfa8@aa1>,

<tr...@beauty.com> wrote:
>
>
> Kel...@yahoo.com wrote in article <6nrv4v$sfm$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> > Edmond you restore my faith that some things are immutable...never
> changing.
> > The posting below, snipped after enough for identification, proves that
> you
> > are still a vulgar, small, meanspirited, callous, vindictive, morally
> > bankrupt and emotionally corrupt weasel.
>
> Hey, careful there Jeffrey. By referring to Eddie as 'morally
> bankrupt,' you besmirch the good name of people who can
> at least find enough money between the sofa cushions to pay
> the bankruptcy filing fee.
>

I stand corrected, Truth,

A bow and smile to you, sir.

I would also like to apologize again to the weasel family...a lovely and
useful animal that seldom bits the hand the gives it a scanner and one
thousand dollars.

Very kind regards,

Jeffrey L. Dunford
Reston, Va. -- I snipped your edweird posts, sir...merely to save space.

Edmond Wollmann

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Suzyqyou wrote:

> Edmond Wollmann wrote:

> >I was married for 9 years and my next relationship was 7 years. >Let's ask
> >Susan why she hasn't divorced her husband whiole she runs around >on weekend
> >juants- and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? -

> Whew. Ed, what a comeback, you must have stayed up all night coming up with a
> new, unique way to try to spin me. So now you're going for unfaithful? Since
> you've posted the above twice as a such a pithy response... I know! Maybe you
> could now say anonym and I are married??!! Like, as in, we got married so we
> could be in "cahoots" together, remember?? Or, maybe anonym was really my
> husband?

Answer the question. When was your divorce?
Evasion noted.



> One of the funniest things Ed ever said to me was while explaining why his old
> girlfriend, "Ms. S.D." kicked him out of the house after she got tired of him
> sponging off of her.

> "I offered her the world, but she wanted a dress!"

Making up things cause you have no info.

> Enough said.

> Susan

Obviously not or you would have shut up by now.

Subject: Re: Halfway out of shell, but it's stuck on my back
Date: 08 Sep 96 21:27:52 EDT


From: "Garrett J. Smith " <103674.201 @CompuServe.COM>
To: Edmond Wollmann <woll...@mail.sdsu.edu>

Dearest Love,
Ooh, I love you. Nobody has EVER been able to stand me like this. It
doesn't happen very often, thank goodness. I feel so good when I read
your words of love and think you could love me anyway, wow. I am in awe
of your organizational skills! My own are rather erratic unless it's
something I'm really involved in but I like a place for everything and
everything in it's place. It's just that my place may not be where one
would expect it. Is that sensical?
You are so wonderful to me. Ok, to reciprocate in kind, you can be
the most infuriatingly STUBBORN bull in the world and I won't wave any
red flags.
Actually, I think stubborn is sexy; it goes along with my strength
of character thing. Or, if you prefer, you can be so darn practical
that everything around us will be completely sturdy and a really good
buy and I won't force anything faddish or trendy on you. See how I love
you baby? Considering your groundedness and earthiness here is making
me feel lustful towards you again.
Methinks just about EVERYTHING about you makes me feel lustful,
Eddy.. Checked in on the newgroup and saw your new posts, this is going
to be great!
Can't wait for the fall out from the ego-challenged.
Half convinced myself not to call although I want to very much.
Mars in Cancer expresses herself insecurely again. So maybe will try to
just get over it as is more befitting the conjunct of the sun. Must be
vibrating at my lowest level here, probably about 6 inches below your
belt, mmm. Will be getting ready to see you. Rubbing oils into my skin
and considering scents to delight you. I like being naked and
slippery. Or naked and wet.
Eddy, I hope my visit is OK with Nathan, does he feel like he's
being pushed aside because of me? Just wouldn't want to start out with
him that way. I would be happy if he just wants to stay home! Does he
feel as if he has divided loyalties twixt you and his mom?
Will be here when you return honey. The thought of you is what
makes me smile today.
Susan

Edmond Wollmann

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> In article <35A0F7...@earthlink.net>,
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> >I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> >> >lives.

> >> At least until the restraining orders were issued.

> >Since you bring this up-yes-but I was the one who issued them.

> Then you won't mind our checking out your facts with the court records?

You have got to be the most bored person on the planet.

Edmond Wollmann

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Rick wrote:

> In article <35A034...@earthlink.net>,

> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> >> life?

> >I have no problems,

Then I said "only solutions" shows how Ricky the jealous censor tries to
spin and abuse in the hopes of making me look bad.



> You are either lying or deluded. Everybody has problems.

> >I have been the man in many women's lives.

> Translation: Edie's been dumped by many women.

Did you ever stop to think how obsessed you must be to spin little na,
na, nas like a 5 year old for over a year against someone you fear and
are jealous of? There are Phds I refer clients as troubled as you to,
would you like to be referred? Get help Ricky.

Lili4luv3

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>From: "Babydoll-" <babydoll

Rabies Dumb wrote:>To all those women that have let Eddie into their lives I
give you my
>condolances.

Lili writes:

You have my condolEnces, as well.

Lili4luv3

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Susyqyou wrote:>> When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing

abusive,
>> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him
>$1,000
>> in one lump sum?

Note she says "fed" not "loaned".

You are a vindictive person Susyque and anyone who knows Ed, can tell that you
are lying.

Lili
(praying that Susyqyou gets a boyfriend and *can* move on.)

Lili4luv3

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:

Susan wrote:

>> Whew. Ed, what a comeback, you must have stayed up all night coming up
>with a
>> new, unique way to try to spin me. So now you're going for unfaithful?

If you weren't unfaithful, you would certainly post that instead of weaseling.

Ed notes


>Answer the question. When was your divorce?
>Evasion noted.

> Dearest Love,


>Ooh, I love you. Nobody has EVER been able to stand me like this.

That's a *shocker* <sarcasm> But at least you tell the truth here. Though
it's the first time.

Susan {about her anger management problem wrote}:

It
>doesn't happen very often, thank goodness.

Sure. You're probably in denial.

>I feel so good when I read
>your words of love and think you could love me anyway, wow.

Yup, it's shocking to me, as well. But then I know Edmond far better than you
will ever know him and he's a very forgiving, kind and non-judgmental person.

Susan wrote


> I am in awe
>of your organizational skills! My own are rather erratic unless it's

Some guy she wants to *do* in which case she launches into a full frontal
attach, offering money etc.

> Is that sensical?

It's nonsensical.

> You are so wonderful to me.

I believe he was wonderful to you as he and I have been close for over a year
and I've never known him to be unkind.

>Ok, to reciprocate in kind,

She's not capable of that so instead she insultingly says

>you can be
>the most infuriatingly STUBBORN bull in the world and I won't wave any
>red flags

Another of Susan's lie as we all can see.

> Actually, I think stubborn is sexy; it goes along with my strength
>of character thing.

Is there anything you *don't* find sexy about Ed, besides his *dumping* you, of
course.

(snip)

... and I won't force anything
except herself upon Ed, againj

>makes me feel lustful towards you again.


> Methinks just about EVERYTHING about you makes me feel lustful,
>Eddy.. Checked in on the newgroup and saw your new posts, this is going
>to be great!
> Can't wait for the fall out from the ego-challenged.

Well we haven't *had* to wait, have we? You're making an idiot out of
yourself. Fly back home to OZ on your broom, hypocritical liar.

Susan wrote


> Half convinced myself not to call although I want to very much.

Clearly the half that was *not* convinced won this battle because she
beleagured Ed with her constant calling and demanding he prove his love for
her. All after one sordid weekend! IMO, you are pathetic. Get some pride
about yourself, Susan.

Then she admits to exactly what Ed has written:


>Mars in Cancer expresses herself insecurely again. So maybe will try to
>just get over it as is more befitting the conjunct of the sun.

When?

> Must be
>vibrating at my lowest level here, probably about 6 inches below your
>belt, mmm.

Your usual vibration.

>Will be getting ready to see you. >Rubbing oils into my skin
>and considering scents to delight you.

Oh spare us.

I like being naked and
>slippery. Or naked and wet.

Well you've made *that* emphatically clear.

> Eddy, I hope my visit is OK with Nathan, does he feel like he's
>being pushed aside because of me?

I doubt he did, over a single weekend Bimbo.

>Just wouldn't want to start out with
>him that way. I would be happy if he just wants to stay home! Does he
>feel as if he has divided loyalties twixt you and his mom?

A question no doubt asked to have ammo if Ed should dump her as so many others
clearly have.

> Will be here when you return honey. The thought of you is what
>makes me smile today.


What a brown nosing, hypocritical lying sack of DO DO. :)))

Lili4luv3

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Edmond Wollman wrote about

Suzy the wailin' banchee:

>People attracted to each other for
>romantic reasons don't ask you "what's in that cabinet" (the one I keep
>locked in my home)-which told me a lot right there.
>

Really, I never noticed the cabinet till you decided to show me the contents,
unasked for. See Suze, ya should've been more patient.

Oh that's right, lack of patience is another one of your character flaws
Ann wrote:

>> What is boring, Susan, is to see a woman publish this kind of personal
>> vengence seeking clap-trap on an international forum. This is a forum for
>> the discussion of astrology. Ed Wollmann is one of thousands of
>astrologers
>> throughout the world who access this NG. If you have a legal cause of
>> action, take it to court. If you don't, then seek counseling so that you
>> might get over this rage which makes you demean yourself in an attempt to
>> demean E. Wollmann.

Ed writes:

>True, if I am so bad and she is so great, I am sure that she can find a
>new man who will take this crap from her-someone like Rick Ellis or Rick
>Lazzarini. Casper milktoasts.

Ed, don't get carried away. I wouldn't wish them on anyone. Even the Banchee.


Rick

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In article <35A252...@earthlink.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Whew. Ed, what a comeback, you must have stayed up all night coming up with a

>> new, unique way to try to spin me. So now you're going for unfaithful? Since
>> you've posted the above twice as a such a pithy response... I know! Maybe you
>> could now say anonym and I are married??!! Like, as in, we got married so we
>> could be in "cahoots" together, remember?? Or, maybe anonym was really my
>> husband?

>Answer the question. When was your divorce?
>Evasion noted.

Yes, you're evading again, Edie.

>> One of the funniest things Ed ever said to me was while explaining why his old
>> girlfriend, "Ms. S.D." kicked him out of the house after she got tired of him
>> sponging off of her.

>> "I offered her the world, but she wanted a dress!"

>Making up things cause you have no info.

Or could it just be you lying with your denials?

[snip of Edie's post of private e-mail...or is it just something
he made up?]

Edmond Wollmann

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In article <35A24F...@earthlink.net>,

Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> >> At least until the restraining orders were issued.

>> >Since you bring this up-yes-but I was the one who issued them.

>> Then you won't mind our checking out your facts with the court records?

>You have got to be the most bored person on the planet.

I'll take this as tacit admission that you lied about the restraining
orders. Your attempts to spin my statement to an attack on my life is
quite pathetic. But not as pathetic as your lie about the orders. BTW,
you can issue all the restraining orders you want but only the ones
issued by a court mean anything.

--
"Best contact an attorney if you are going to keep defaming. Let's see
you put a killfile on the courts buddy."

Rick

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In article <35A254...@earthlink.net>,

Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> >I have been the man in many women's lives.

>> Translation: Edie's been dumped by many women.

>Did you ever stop to think how obsessed you must be to spin little na,
>na, nas like a 5 year old for over a year against someone you fear and
>are jealous of?

Did you ever stop to think what a whining, spinning little shithead
you look like? Does using lies to prey on women make you feel big?

>There are Phds I refer clients as troubled as you to,
>would you like to be referred? Get help Ricky.

ROFL! Keep trying little spin doctor. You're so pathetic.

--
"you are ugly as fuck inside and out."
"I am a good counselor WITHOUT any degree."

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> In article <359FF1...@pacbell.net>,
> ano...@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > > Babydoll- wrote:
>
> > > > Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > > > life?
>
> > > I have no problems, only solutions. I have been the man in many women's
> > > lives.
>
> > Briefly, until they realize what a schmuck and a mooch he is.
>
> > Then they kick him out on his scrawny ass.
>
> I was married for 9 years and my next relationship was 7 years.

That's 16 years. Typical Wollmann. Makes up shit to fit the situation,
then reels in shock when he discovers it contradicts other statements
he's made.

You know, the ones where he's claimed to have a large number of
relationships with women, trying to sell himself as some stud.

> Let's ask
> Susan why she hasn't divorced her husband whiole she runs around on weekend
> juants-

You had no problem going for the muff dive when she came down.


And let's ask you; how many times were you unfaithful to those 2 women
(your wife and the 7 year itch) by having sex with other women?


>and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? --

What wife?

There's that contradiction thing again:

Date: 1998/06/01
Message-ID: <35737D...@pacbell.net>
Newsgroups:
alt.astrology,alt.astrology.metapsych,alt.astrology.mundane,talk.religion.newage


Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> anonym™ wrote:
> SNIP!
> Boy, do you need a wife and/or a life....

J. White

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Rick wrote:

> >There are Phds I refer clients as troubled as you to,
> >would you like to be referred? Get help Ricky.
>
> ROFL! Keep trying little spin doctor. You're so pathetic.

HELL YES! PLEASE give me the name and phone number of ONE verifiable
PhD who will claim you as his/her couselor (and not Lili who got her PhD
in Spankology).

J. White
...should I hold my breath?

anonym™

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Suzyqyou wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> >I was married for 9 years and my next relationship was 7 years. >Let's ask

> >Susan why she hasn't divorced her husband whiole she runs around >on weekend
> >juants- and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? -

>
> Whew. Ed, what a comeback, you must have stayed up all night coming up with a
> new, unique way to try to spin me. So now you're going for unfaithful? Since
> you've posted the above twice as a such a pithy response... I know! Maybe you
> could now say anonym and I are married??!! Like, as in, we got married so we
> could be in "cahoots" together, remember?? Or, maybe anonym was really my
> husband?

Now, now dear. We mustn't upset the neighbors.;-)

Edmond Wollmann

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Rick wrote:
SNIP!
Your client remains off topic harassing and defaming against your own
AUP.
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In article <35A254...@earthlink.net>,

anonym™

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Eddykeys wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote concerning asshole anonym:
>
> > and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? --
>
> Well, if she doesn't perform in the sack the way he likes, he lets
> the air out of her, puts her back in her package, takes her back
> to the porn shop and asks for a refund.
>
Hmmm, another soc.sexuality.spanking denizen and sock puppet comes to
fan the flames.

Welcome!

Your Mom says hello!

Well, she mumbles it, because I'm not through with her...

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Rick wrote:
>
> > In article <35A034...@earthlink.net>,
> > Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Oh hello Mr Wollman - have you a problem? Were you the man in Suzyqyou's
> > >> life?
>
> > >I have no problems,
>
> Then I said "only solutions" shows how Ricky the jealous censor tries to
> spin and abuse in the hopes of making me look bad.
>
> > You are either lying or deluded. Everybody has problems.
>
> > >I have been the man in many women's lives.
>
> > Translation: Edie's been dumped by many women.
>
> Did you ever stop to think how obsessed you must be to spin little na,
> na, nas like a 5 year old for over a year against someone you fear and
> are jealous of?

Did yoou ever stop to think how full of shit you are?

>There are Phds I refer clients as troubled as you to,
> would you like to be referred?

Yes, Send a list of Phd's who know you.

>Get help Ricky.

Your list will help.

Rick

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In article <35A30C...@pacbell.net>, anonym™ <ano...@pacbell.net> wrote:

>reels in shock when he discovers it contradicts other statements
>he's made.

You miss spelled posts his FAQ.


widdershins

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On Tue, 07 Jul 1998 09:59:51 -0700, Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Ed's lame attempt to send responses to alt.null defeated again. Keep at it, Ed,
it doesn't cost me anymore to change the follow-ups than it does you. All this
behavior does is emphasize how powerless you are.

>Rick wrote:
>
>> In article <35A034...@earthlink.net>,
>> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>

snip

Ed writes:

>> >I have no problems,
>
>Then I said "only solutions" shows how Ricky the jealous censor tries to
>spin and abuse in the hopes of making me look bad.

Rick Ellis doesn't really need to do anything of a kind. You are doing a splendid
job all by yourself.

>
>> You are either lying or deluded. Everybody has problems.
>
>> >I have been the man in many women's lives.
>
>> Translation: Edie's been dumped by many women.
>
>Did you ever stop to think how obsessed you must be to spin little na,
>na, nas like a 5 year old for over a year against someone you fear and

>are jealous of? There are Phds I refer clients as troubled as you to,
>would you like to be referred? Get help Ricky.

It's a difficult sentence to parse, but Eddie's trying to impress people, again.

BTW, Ed, in re the subject line: I agree. Truth does trump spin. You should try it
sometime.


P. S. I responded to your post. Does this mean we're in cahoots? Are you and me
gonna be pals, Eddy? Huh, are we?

Nahhhhhhhhh!

widdershins

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On 7 Jul 1998 21:03:40 GMT, lili...@aol.com (Lili4luv3) wrote:

>Edmond Wollman wrote about
>
>Suzy the wailin' banchee:
>
>>People attracted to each other for
>>romantic reasons don't ask you "what's in that cabinet" (the one I keep
>>locked in my home)-which told me a lot right there.
>>
>
>Really, I never noticed the cabinet till you decided to show me the contents,
>unasked for. See Suze, ya should've been more patient.

Hmmm. A spanking paddle, perhaps? Or maybe Ed's stash.


>
>Oh that's right, lack of patience is another one of your character flaws
>Ann wrote:
>
>>> What is boring, Susan, is to see a woman publish this kind of personal
>>> vengence seeking clap-trap on an international forum.

Yes, this is the kind of twisted logic Ann would use. Ed is excused from this
criticism, even though he has published what he claims to be personal
email love letters from Susan. Ann, wouldn't you say you're being just a little
bit hypocritical? Of course you wouldn't. You have as little integrity as Ed.

>>>This is a forum for
>>> the discussion of astrology. Ed Wollmann is one of thousands of
>>astrologers
>>> throughout the world who access this NG.

That being the case, can anyone explain why Ed regularly makes such an ass
himself? I mean, in front of an international audience, and everything.

snip of rest of Ann's meanderings


>
>Ed writes:
>
>>True, if I am so bad and she is so great, I am sure that she can find a
>>new man who will take this crap from her-someone like Rick Ellis or Rick
>>Lazzarini. Casper milktoasts.
>
>Ed, don't get carried away. I wouldn't wish them on anyone. Even the Banchee.
>
>

Left in for its unintentional humor.


widdershins

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On 7 Jul 1998 20:17:14 GMT, lili...@aol.com (Lili4luv3) wrote:

>Susyqyou wrote:>> When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing
>abusive,
>>> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him
>>$1,000
>>> in one lump sum?
>
>Note she says "fed" not "loaned".
>
>You are a vindictive person Susyque and anyone who knows Ed, can tell that you
>are lying.
>
>Lili

Let's see, we *know* Ed lies from the myriad examples on these very screens. So,
if we assume your characterization of Susan is correct, what we are left with is
you, backing one liar against the other. Kinda looks like you're a little short in
the integrity department. Ed will know where some is. Go ask him for some.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


Ann Shermann

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Jul 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/8/98
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In article <199807070508...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
suzy...@aol.com (Suzyqyou) wrote:


> Enough said.
>
> Susan

Would that it were so!

Ann Shermann

Rick

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In article <35A313...@sdsu.edu>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Your client remains off topic harassing and defaming against your own
>AUP.

You client remains off topic and harassing everyone that doesn't
worship him.


anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Suzyqyou wrote:
>

Who the fuck is Nathan?

snip

anonym™

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Lili4luv3 wrote:
>
> Susyqyou wrote:>> When he bit the hand that fed him and his son by writing
> abusive,
> >> hostile letters to me complaining because I did not see fit to send him
> >$1,000
> >> in one lump sum?
>
> Note she says "fed" not "loaned".
>
> You are a vindictive person Susyque and anyone who knows Ed, can tell that you
> are lying.
>
Anyone who is an apologist for Ed, like you, will SAY she is lying.

But they'd be lying.

anonym™

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Lili4luv3 wrote:
>
SNIP

Isn't it about time for Ed to dump his lump in your sump?

anonym™

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Lili4luv3 wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> Susan wrote:
>
> >> Whew. Ed, what a comeback, you must have stayed up all night coming up
> >with a
> >> new, unique way to try to spin me. So now you're going for unfaithful?
>
> If you weren't unfaithful,

She was unfaithful to her husband because she fucked Ed.

Did you also fuck him the same night?
No wonder you're acting like a jealous cat in heat

>you would certainly post that instead of weaseling.

If she is unfaithful it's none of your spanking business.

>
> Ed notes


> >Answer the question. When was your divorce?
> >Evasion noted.
>

> > Dearest Love,
> >Ooh, I love you. Nobody has EVER been able to stand me like this.
>
> That's a *shocker* <sarcasm> But at least you tell the truth here. Though
> it's the first time.

How do you know, you lying cunt?

SNIP of Lili the worthless cunts' bullshit.


>
> What a brown nosing, hypocritical lying sack of DO DO.

Lili is.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann is guilty of violating:

> 2.10. Disrupting any newsgroup with frivolous, excessively vulgar,
> or repetitious postings.

with his spam.

Edmond Wollmann

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widdershins wrote:

> Ed's lame attempt to send responses to alt.null defeated again. Keep at it, Ed,
> it doesn't cost me anymore to change the follow-ups than it does you. All this
> behavior does is emphasize how powerless you are.

No, it proves my case that you skepticultists are purposely abusing
these groups.

anonym™

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Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> widdershins wrote:
>
> > Ed's lame attempt to send responses to alt.null defeated again. Keep at it, Ed,
> > it doesn't cost me anymore to change the follow-ups than it does you. All this
> > behavior does is emphasize how powerless you are.
>
> No, it proves my case

"Nothing can EVER be PROVEN!"--Ed Wollmann, deluded shithead.

>that you skepticultists are purposely abusing
> these groups.

Which ones? Two are mine, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.

People can do whatever they want on those groups, as long as I like it,
because they're MINE!

Complaints have been sent to your parents and teachers, panty boy.

Rick

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In article <35A427...@worldnet.att.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Ed's lame attempt to send responses to alt.null defeated again. Keep at it, Ed,
>> it doesn't cost me anymore to change the follow-ups than it does you. All this
>> behavior does is emphasize how powerless you are.

>No, it proves my case that you skepticultists are purposely abusing
>these groups.

Once again you demonstrate that you lack knowlege of the simple concept
of "proof". Instead you employ spin doctoring tactics like repeating the
same statement and emotional labeling (e.g. "skepticultists"). What's
really being proven is your lack of integrity.

--
"Follow ups out of alt.astrology.metapsych and the other fake groups."


-Edmond Wollmann, a$trologer, spammer, hypocrite, censor, Jan. '98 KoTM

http://www.sidaway.demon.co.uk/astrology/lies/wollmann/edlies01.txt
http://www.sidaway.demon.co.uk/skeptic/sockpuppets.txt

widdershins

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On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 19:14:44 -0700, Edmond Wollmann <Pleia...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>widdershins wrote:
>
>> Ed's lame attempt to send responses to alt.null defeated again. Keep at it, Ed,
>> it doesn't cost me anymore to change the follow-ups than it does you. All this
>> behavior does is emphasize how powerless you are.
>
>No, it proves my case that you skepticultists are purposely abusing
>these groups.

Well, Eddie-Poo, if your case is proven, file suit. Go on, do it! Don't waste
another precious second of your twisted life, just sue me! While you're at it,
sue anonym, Rick Ellis, J. White, Sherilyn; shit, Ed, sue all 43 people who
voted you KOTM for January. Do it!

ToppySpyce

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Betcha candyass anonym wouldn't dare post
something like that on soc.sexuality.spanking.
HE KNOW WHAT WE'D DO TO HIS
PRISSY LITTLE BOTTOM IF HE EVER
TRIED<g>

Toppy Spyce who has learned from past
experience that anonym is all asshole and
no balls.


FancySpyce

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Eddy writes:

>Ed Wollman wrote concerning asshole:


>>and what about you, what does your
>>wife think of you??--

>Well. if she doesn't perform in the sack


>the way he likes, he lets the air out of her,

>puts her back in the package, takes her


>back to the pornshop and asks for a refund

<g>Dooch you are too funny. There's nothing sexier than a man who is really
witty.

Fancy Spyce, overcome with admiration!
Mind you that Wollmann guy is cute too!

anonym

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ToppySpyce wrote:
>
> Betcha candyass anonym wouldn't dare post
> something like that on soc.sexuality.spanking.

Like what?

Like this?:

Eddykeys wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann wrote concerning asshole anonym:
>

> > and what about you, what does your wife think of you?? --
>

> Well, if she doesn't perform in the sack the way he likes, he lets
> the air out of her, puts her back in her package, takes her back
> to the porn shop and asks for a refund.
>
Hmmm, another soc.sexuality.spanking denizen and sock puppet comes to
fan the flames.

Welcome!

Your Mom says hello!

Well, she mumbles it, because I'm not through with her...

> HE KNOW WHAT WE'D DO TO HIS


> PRISSY LITTLE BOTTOM IF HE EVER
> TRIED<g>

Stick your tongue in the hole looking for wayward flecks of shit so you
can shout "Yummy! Chips AHOY!"?


>
> Toppy Spyce who has learned from past
> experience that anonym is all asshole and
> no balls.

That's right. I'll only let Toppy tongue my asshole, not my balls,
before I send her off to dreamland.

Brant

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Edmond Wollmann wrote in message <35A254...@earthlink.net>...
>Rick wrote:

>> Translation: Edie's been dumped by many women.
>
>Did you ever stop to think how obsessed you must be to spin little na,
>na, nas like a 5 year old for over a year against someone you fear and
>are jealous of? There are Phds I refer clients as troubled as you to,
>would you like to be referred? Get help Ricky.


Whew! Rick, that was a close one. I think that little pinhole you just made
in Ed's ego allowed him to release just enough gas to prevent his head from
exploding from self-adulation.

Oh, and I *almost* missed the "alt.null" follow-up Ed put in. I see he's
still pulling those shenanigans.

Brant

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