[First project] The Home and the World by Rabindranath Tagore
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Chelsea McGill
May 9, 2026, 10:32:18 PMMay 9
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As recommended, I will do this book.
Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
Best,
Chelsea
Chelsea McGill
May 10, 2026, 2:14:37 AMMay 10
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Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-text . I ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the chapter breaks. What should I do?
Best,
Chelsea
Emma Sweeney
May 10, 2026, 2:39:24 AMMay 10
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Can you send a link to your repository?
Emma
Chelsea McGill
May 10, 2026, 3:38:57 AMMay 10
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Hi,
I think this is the correct link - please correct me if I'm wrong!
https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore.git
Chelsea
Emma Sweeney
May 10, 2026, 4:43:38 AMMay 10
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Before you split the text into chapters, you need to do some work in the body.xhtml in order for the text to split correctly.
1. You need to make sure sure each chapter title is surrounded by a <h2> element. It looks like some of the chapters are in <h3> elements, which won't work for the next step.
2. It is important to run all of the commands in Step 7 in that specific order. Without running `perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' src/epub/text/body.xhtml`, `se split-file` won't work.
Emma
Chelsea McGill
May 10, 2026, 6:56:38 AMMay 10
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Hi,
The structure of this text is a little weird, so I'm not sure what headings to add. Within each chapter there are multiple characters' points of view, and within each character's point of view are section headings I, II, etc. Could you please help me out with what elements should be used to give this structure? You can see it on https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/page/XI/mode/2up .
Thanks,
Chelsea
Weijia Cheng
May 10, 2026, 7:18:11 AMMay 10
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In this case, you will probably want to divide the book using se split-file into top level chapter files (heading level 2). Each chapter file would then include <section> elements for the individual characters' perspectives (heading level 3) and the <section> elements for the individual characters' subchapters (heading level 4). You will want to divide the book based on the top-level chapter file and then you will need to insert the subdivisions yourself. Arrowsmith is an example of a book with subchapters, although you will have one extra level of layering.
Also, it looks like the latest change you pushed to the repository to divide the chapters did not work the way you wanted it to. You will either need to drop the latest commit and force push to the repository or start over to make sure that your commit history is in line.
Chelsea McGill
May 10, 2026, 9:58:35 AMMay 10
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Hi,
I have changed the headings to standardize as suggested. Please check and make sure that I have done it properly; I have pushed the changes to repository.
Emma Sweeney
May 10, 2026, 12:08:38 PMMay 10
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I don't see any changes to the repository.
Emma
Chelsea McGill
May 10, 2026, 9:21:44 PMMay 10
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Hi,
I just made changes inside the file; I haven't used se split yet
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Emma Sweeney
May 10, 2026, 9:47:23 PMMay 10
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The changes have not been pushed to your remote repository, so I cannot see any of the changes you've made. You need to commit any changes you've made and run `git push origin master`. After you've run that command, check your remote repository. Once you are able to see it online, let us know.
Emma
Chelsea McGill
May 11, 2026, 5:50:24 AMMay 11
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Hi,
I can see it online here: https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/commit/679a5c39da4b5f4e6719894f440938fbdeb22481 . Please let me know whether you can see it too.
Best,
Chelsea
Chelsea McGill
May 11, 2026, 6:01:12 AMMay 11
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Also I tried to run perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' on this file, but I got this error:
rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore % perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g'/Users/immersive/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/src/epub/text/body.xhtml
-i used with no filenames on the command line, reading from STDIN.
syntax error at -e line 1, near "-and"
Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
Chris Salt
May 11, 2026, 6:32:11 AMMay 11
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Hi Chelsea, if you're already in the rabindrath-tagore... etc then you should just be able to use
perl -pi -e
's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' src/epub/text/body.xhtml
(note the space before src)
You can also use perl -pi -e
's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' /Users/immersive/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/src/epub/text/body.xhtml
but again, you need the space between the search string and the file path.
Chelsea McGill
May 11, 2026, 9:02:23 AMMay 11
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Ok, I ran that and it didn't return any errors. Then I tried split-file again and it gave this error (and only created one new file, Chapter-1.
ndranath-tagore % se split-file /Users/immersive/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/src/epub/text/body.xhtml
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Users/immersive/.local/bin/se", line 6, in <module>
sys.exit(main())
~~~~^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/main.py", line 77, in main
sys.exit(getattr(module, command_function)(args.plain_output))
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/commands/split_file.py", line 77, in split_file
prefix, suffix = line.split("<!--se:split-->")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 2, got 3)
Chelsea McGill
May 11, 2026, 9:16:18 AMMay 11
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Please ignore the last email; I figured it out on my own.
Since there are subsections in each chapter, would you recommend I split it further? Or are chapters ok?
Best,
Chelsea
Alex Cabal
May 11, 2026, 2:56:10 PMMay 11
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Before you continue, please send a link to your repository so we can
start a project for you, and assign a manager and reviewer who will
answer questions you might have.
On 5/10/26 1:14 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-text . I
> ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the chapter breaks. What
> should I do?
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> As recommended, I will do this book.
>
> Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166>
> Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/
> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/
> page/V/mode/2up>
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
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On 5/10/26 1:14 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-text . I
> ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the chapter breaks. What
> should I do?
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> As recommended, I will do this book.
>
> Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
> Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/
> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/
> page/V/mode/2up>
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
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Alex Cabal
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OK, Robin will manage this with Vince reviewing.
On 5/10/26 2:38 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think this is the correct link - please correct me if I'm wrong!
>
> https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> world_surendranath-tagore.git
>
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> Can you send a link to your repository?
>
> Emma
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 2:14:37 AM UTC-4 bkwr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-
> text . I ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the
> chapter breaks. What should I do?
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> As recommended, I will do this book.
>
> Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/
> homeandworld01unkngoog/page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/3eb5caea-0a64-4dcd-
> a3a1-41924719c4b7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
On 5/10/26 2:38 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think this is the correct link - please correct me if I'm wrong!
>
> https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> world_surendranath-tagore.git
>
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> Can you send a link to your repository?
>
> Emma
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 2:14:37 AM UTC-4 bkwr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-
> text . I ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the
> chapter breaks. What should I do?
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> As recommended, I will do this book.
>
> Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/
> details/homeandworld01unkngoog/page/V/mode/2up>
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
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Chelsea McGill
May 12, 2026, 12:56:26 AMMay 12
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Thank you for your help!
I have decided to keep "Chapter One" format as in the original, since Roman numerals are already used in the text and it would be confusing for the reader.
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Robin Whittleton
May 12, 2026, 1:38:39 AMMay 12
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Reading through the book, this isn’t the most obvious structure for a first production. But let’s see what we can do.
The book is structured into twelve chapters, each with multiple subchapters. The subchapters aren’t numbered sequentially themselves, but some have a character attached, and the number of the subchapter specifically for that character. If they don’t have a character name then it’s assumed that it’s a follow-on from the previous character.
So, I’d say that we want to split this into 12 chapters. You‘ve done this ✅
The main chapter headings should be just roman numerals. This is the default for all SE productions, see the manual of style: https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1. So the main headings will look something like:
<h2 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h2>
Then inside each chapter, you’ve got the subchapters. These should be have their own section elements. Taking the first chapter, directly after the main heading we’d open a subchapter section with:
<section id="chapter-1-1" epub:type="z3998:subchapter">
…and close it with </section> before the next. Further subchapters in the same chapter would be chapter-1-2, chapter-1-3, etc. Then we just need to get the heading structure correct for the subchapters. Personally, I think I’d reverse it so that rather than (for example) ”Nikhil’s Story - I” we’d have “I - Nikhil”s Story”. That would mean that when it’s just a number the title would look like:
<h3 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h3>
And with a tagline indicating whose story it is:
<hgroup>
<h3 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h3>
<p epub:type="title">Nikhil’s Story</p>
</hgroup>
Does that make sense and do you agree? This isn’t a structure I’ve seen before but I think it’s workable.
-Robin
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Chelsea McGill
May 12, 2026, 2:08:21 AMMay 12
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Hi Robin,
Sure, this makes sense. Would it be better if I add the character's name to each subchapter so that the differentiation between the subchapter roman numerals and the chapter roman numerals is clear?
Also to be clear, I will not be splitting the files any further, right?
Best,
Chelsea
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Weijia Cheng
May 12, 2026, 7:38:50 AMMay 12
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Robin, as I observed earlier, there are actually three levels of nesting in this book. The individual characters' stories are broken up between the chapter files. So for example, Nikhil's story has two chapters (I and II) in chapter-2.xhtml, and then continues with chapter III in chapter-4.xhtml. So I suggest that the divison should actually be
<h2 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h2> on the top level
Below this each chapter file should have subchapters like:
<section id="chapter-1-bimala" epub:type="z3998:subchapter">
with this heading:
<h3 epub:type="title">Bimala's Story</h3>
Then there should be a second level of division:
<section id="chapter-1-bimala-1" epub:type="z3998:division">
with this heading:
<h4 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">I</h2> on the top level
This will account for how the individual characters' stories are broken up across the top level chapters, and how the top-level chapters can have multiple characters.
Weijia Cheng
May 12, 2026, 7:39:57 AMMay 12
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Oops, ignore the "on the top level" comment on the last heading example. I copied-and-pasted that from the first example.
Chelsea McGill
May 12, 2026, 8:48:03 AMMay 12
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Thank you very much for this Weijia, this makes a lot of sense. I will follow this format.
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Chelsea McGill
May 12, 2026, 9:43:35 AMMay 12
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Hi, I have done as Weijia suggested in Chapter 1. Please check and make sure I have done it correctly. Thanks!
Chelsea
Chelsea McGill
May 12, 2026, 10:25:55 AMMay 12
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I realized that Ch. 2 is more complex, so I have also made the changes in Ch. 2. Please check to make sure I have done it correctly.
Best
Chelsea
Robin Whittleton
May 12, 2026, 10:46:54 AMMay 12
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Leaving aside that you need one more </section> at the end in both chapters, that looks good!
(Thanks Weijia, I missed your original comment but this approach makes more sense.)
-Robin
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Chelsea McGill
May 12, 2026, 11:43:22 AMMay 12
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Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I open the file in browser I'm getting an error message for Ch 5. Could you please check and let me know what to change? Thanks
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Alex Cabal
May 12, 2026, 11:54:26 AMMay 12
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If you're getting an error in the browser then your XHTML is malformed.
There is a missing closing tag, mismatched nesting, or some other XHTML
syntax level error. The browser should give you a hint in its error message.
On 5/12/26 10:43 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I open the file in
> browser I'm getting an error message for Ch 5. Could you please check
> and let me know what to change? Thanks
>
> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 8:16 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net
>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
>> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
>> page#8.1.1>. So the main headings will
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On 5/12/26 10:43 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I open the file in
> browser I'm getting an error message for Ch 5. Could you please check
> and let me know what to change? Thanks
>
> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 8:16 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net
> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
>
> Leaving aside that you need one more </section> at the end in both
> chapters, that looks good!
>
> (Thanks Weijia, I missed your original comment but this approach
> makes more sense.)
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 12 May 2026, at 16:25, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
>
> Leaving aside that you need one more </section> at the end in both
> chapters, that looks good!
>
> (Thanks Weijia, I missed your original comment but this approach
> makes more sense.)
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 12 May 2026, at 16:25, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
>> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
>> page#8.1.1>. So the main headings will
>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the->
>>> > world_surendranath-tagore.git
>>> >
>>> > Chelsea
>>> >
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Can you send a link to your
>>> repository?
>>> >
>>> > Emma
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 2:14:37 AM UTC-4bkwr...@gmail.comwrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi, I am following the
>>> directions and got as far as se split-
>>> > text . I ran it, but it
>>> does not seem to have recognized the
>>> > chapter breaks. What should
>>> I do?
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Chelsea
>>> >
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
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>>> > As recommended, I will
>>> do this book.
>>> >
>>> > Project Gutenberg
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>>> >
>>> > Chelsea
>>> >
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Can you send a link to your
>>> repository?
>>> >
>>> > Emma
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 2:14:37 AM UTC-4bkwr...@gmail.comwrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi, I am following the
>>> directions and got as far as se split-
>>> > text . I ran it, but it
>>> does not seem to have recognized the
>>> > chapter breaks. What should
>>> I do?
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Chelsea
>>> >
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>> >
>>> > As recommended, I will
>>> do this book.
>>> >
>>> > Project Gutenberg
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As Alex pointed out, browsers can help narrow in. In this case, you need another closing </section> after the one on line 65, and again after the one on line 159.
You’re also missing closing and opening section tags before Bimala’s XIII in chapter 5.
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You’re also missing closing and opening section tags before Bimala’s XIII in chapter 5.
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Hi,
I have finished changing the footnotes into endnotes. Could you please take a look at note 22? It is a 2-paragraph note and I want to make sure that I formatted it properly.
Also many of the endnotes end with [Trans.] to indicate that the Translator added the note. Should I keep this as-is or is there another format that is preferred?
Best,
Chelsea
Robin Whittleton
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Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
<cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
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Chelsea McGill
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Hi, I have been thinking about images to use for the cover. Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/364294
Chelsea McGill
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I had a question about the term Bande Mataram. I am keeping it in italics since it is a Bengali term. When it is used as the name of the song, how should it be formatted? I have used the following; please let me know if this is correct:
<i epub:type="se:name.publication.song" xml:lang="bn">Bande Mataram</i>.
Chelsea McGill
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I have updated the syntax in the endnotes. Could you please check? In particular, I wasn't sure what to do about the Upanishads and Ramayana; both are Sacred Texts, so should they be in italics or not?
Also I have checked Mirriam-Webster and the Bengali words used in the endnotes are all listed there. So should they be italicized? They are italicized in the original.
Robin Whittleton
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On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact) but typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on this one?
On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
“<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande Mataram</span>”
including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin orthography for the Bengali word.
On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2. As the Bengali words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered now part of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
(Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments in the endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
-Robin
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Robin Whittleton
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Forgot to check the endnotes syntax. You don’t need the second period after the cite, just have a single space between that and the link.
-Robin
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Alex Cabal
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I agree it's too watercolor-y
On 5/14/26 3:17 PM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and
> looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do
> occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact) but
> typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on this one?
>
> On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
>
> “<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande Mataram</
> span>”
>
> including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin orthography
> for the Bengali word.
>
> On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2>. As the Bengali
>> search/364294>
>> single-page#7.10.5.3>.
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On 5/14/26 3:17 PM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and
> looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do
> occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact) but
> typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on this one?
>
> On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
>
> “<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande Mataram</
> span>”
>
> including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin orthography
> for the Bengali word.
>
> On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2>. As the Bengali
> words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered now part
> of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
>
> (Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments in the
> endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 14 May 2026, at 07:48, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have updated the syntax in the endnotes. Could you please check? In
>> particular, I wasn't sure what to do about the Upanishads and
>> Ramayana; both are Sacred Texts, so should they be in italics or not?
>>
>> Also I have checked Mirriam-Webster and the Bengali words used in the
>> endnotes are all listed there. So should they be italicized? They are
>> italicized in the original.
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 10:50:47 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>
>> I had a question about the term Bande Mataram. I am keeping it in
>> italics since it is a Bengali term. When it is used as the name of
>> the song, how should it be formatted? I have used the following;
>> please let me know if this is correct:
>>
>> <i epub:type="se:name.publication.song" xml:lang="bn">Bande
>> Mataram</i>.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 9:21:02 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have been thinking about images to use for the cover.
>> Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/
>> search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/
> of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
>
> (Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments in the
> endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 14 May 2026, at 07:48, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have updated the syntax in the endnotes. Could you please check? In
>> particular, I wasn't sure what to do about the Upanishads and
>> Ramayana; both are Sacred Texts, so should they be in italics or not?
>>
>> Also I have checked Mirriam-Webster and the Bengali words used in the
>> endnotes are all listed there. So should they be italicized? They are
>> italicized in the original.
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 10:50:47 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>
>> I had a question about the term Bande Mataram. I am keeping it in
>> italics since it is a Bengali term. When it is used as the name of
>> the song, how should it be formatted? I have used the following;
>> please let me know if this is correct:
>>
>> <i epub:type="se:name.publication.song" xml:lang="bn">Bande
>> Mataram</i>.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 9:21:02 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have been thinking about images to use for the cover.
>> Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/
>> search/364294>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30 robin wrote:
>>
>> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the
>> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
>>
>> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
>>
>> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
>> page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30 robin wrote:
>>
>> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the
>> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
>>
>> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
>>
>> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
>> single-page#7.10.5.3>.
>>> standardebooks.org/>
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I'm just curious - is there an explanation somewhere about the preference for oil paintings over watercolor? Oil paintings are relatively rare in colonial art in India because watercolor was preferred. So it will be a bit difficult to find public domain oil paintings to use from India.
I just want to note that I suggested this watercolor painting because it depicts the historically accurate exact kind of room that much of the novel takes place in. I am quite certain that there is no equivalent painting in oil, outside of maybe private collections.
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Hi, I have a question about screenreader compatibility. If I want to have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e., Nikhil, Sandip, Bimala, the main characters), should I wrap them in the following?
<span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>
Thanks,
Chelsea
Alex Cabal
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It is to maintain a semi-consistent look across all of our ebook covers.
Yes, it can be difficult to find something for Indian subjects. A key
word when searching for artwork is "orientalism", a catchall term used
by artists before around 1900 to describe any Asian-inspired art.
Watercolors are sometimes acceptable if they don't look too much like
obvious watercolors, but your selection was clearly a watercolor
illustration.
On 5/15/26 12:04 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> I'm just curious - is there an explanation somewhere about the
> preference for oil paintings over watercolor? Oil paintings are
> relatively rare in colonial art in India because watercolor was
> preferred. So it will be a bit difficult to find public domain oil
> paintings to use from India.
>
> I just want to note that I suggested this watercolor painting because it
> depicts the historically accurate exact kind of room that much of the
> novel takes place in. I am quite certain that there is no equivalent
> painting in oil, outside of maybe private collections.
>
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Yes, it can be difficult to find something for Indian subjects. A key
word when searching for artwork is "orientalism", a catchall term used
by artists before around 1900 to describe any Asian-inspired art.
Watercolors are sometimes acceptable if they don't look too much like
obvious watercolors, but your selection was clearly a watercolor
illustration.
On 5/15/26 12:04 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> I'm just curious - is there an explanation somewhere about the
> preference for oil paintings over watercolor? Oil paintings are
> relatively rare in colonial art in India because watercolor was
> preferred. So it will be a bit difficult to find public domain oil
> paintings to use from India.
>
> I just want to note that I suggested this watercolor painting because it
> depicts the historically accurate exact kind of room that much of the
> novel takes place in. I am quite certain that there is no equivalent
> painting in oil, outside of maybe private collections.
>
> On Fri, 15 May, 2026, 1:52 am 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks,
> <standar...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> I agree it's too watercolor-y
>
> On 5/14/26 3:17 PM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> > On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and
> > looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do
> > occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact)
> but
> > typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on
> this one?
> >
> > On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
> >
> > “<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande
> Mataram</
> > span>”
> >
> > including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin
> orthography
> > for the Bengali word.
> >
> > On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
>
> I agree it's too watercolor-y
>
> On 5/14/26 3:17 PM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> > On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and
> > looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do
> > occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact)
> but
> > typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on
> this one?
> >
> > On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
> >
> > “<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande
> Mataram</
> > span>”
> >
> > including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin
> orthography
> > for the Bengali word.
> >
> > On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2>>. As the Bengali
> > words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered
> now part
> > of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
> >
> > (Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments
> in the
> > endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> >> On 14 May 2026, at 07:48, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
> > words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered
> now part
> > of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
> >
> > (Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments
> in the
> > endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> >> On 14 May 2026, at 07:48, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
> >> search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/
> <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> >> search/364294>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30 robin
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the
> >> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
> >>
> >> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
> >>
> >> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single->
> <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> >> search/364294>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30 robin
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the
> >> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
> >>
> >> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
> >>
> >> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> >> page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/
> manual/1.8.7/ <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/>
> >> single-page#7.10.5.3>.
> >>
> >> -Robin
> >>
> >>> On 13 May 2026, at 13:33, Chelsea McGill
> >>
> >> -Robin
> >>
> >>> On 13 May 2026, at 13:33, Chelsea McGill
> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > If you're getting an error in the browser
> then your
> >>> XHTML is malformed. There is a missing closing tag,
> >>> mismatched nesting, or some other XHTML syntax
> level
> >>> error. The browser should give you a hint in its
> >>> error message.
> >>> >
> >>> > On 5/12/26 10:43 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>> >> Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I
> >>> open the file in browser I'm getting an error
> message
> >>> for Ch 5. Could you please check and let me
> know what
> >>> to change? Thanks
> >>> >> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 8:16 pm Robin Whittleton,
> >>> <ro...@reala.net
> <mailto:ro...@reala.net><mailto:ro...@reala.net
> >>> >
> >>> > If you're getting an error in the browser
> then your
> >>> XHTML is malformed. There is a missing closing tag,
> >>> mismatched nesting, or some other XHTML syntax
> level
> >>> error. The browser should give you a hint in its
> >>> error message.
> >>> >
> >>> > On 5/12/26 10:43 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>> >> Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I
> >>> open the file in browser I'm getting an error
> message
> >>> for Ch 5. Could you please check and let me
> know what
> >>> to change? Thanks
> >>> >> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 8:16 pm Robin Whittleton,
> >>> <ro...@reala.net
> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>>> wrote:
> >>> >> Leaving aside that you need one more </
> section> at
> >>> the end in both
> >>> >> chapters, that looks good!
> >>> >> (Thanks Weijia, I missed your original
> comment but
> >>> this approach
> >>> >> makes more sense.)
> >>> >> -Robin
> >>> >>> On 12 May 2026, at 16:25, Chelsea McGill
> >>> <bkwr...@gmail.com <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com
> >>> >> Leaving aside that you need one more </
> section> at
> >>> the end in both
> >>> >> chapters, that looks good!
> >>> >> (Thanks Weijia, I missed your original
> comment but
> >>> this approach
> >>> >> makes more sense.)
> >>> >> -Robin
> >>> >>> On 12 May 2026, at 16:25, Chelsea McGill
> >>> <bkwr...@gmail.com <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Reading through the book, this isn’t the
> >>> >>> most obvious structure for a first
> >>> >>> production. But let’s see what we can do.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The book is structured into twelve
> >>> >>> chapters, each with multiple subchapters.
> >>> >>> The subchapters aren’t numbered
> >>> >>> sequentially themselves, but some have a
> >>> >>> character attached, and the number of the
> >>> >>> subchapter specifically for that
> >>> >>> character. If they don’t have a character
> >>> >>> name then it’s assumed that it’s a follow-
> >>> >>> on from the previous character.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> So, I’d say that we want to split this
> >>> >>> into 12 chapters. You‘ve done this ✅
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The main chapter headings should be just
> >>> >>> roman numerals. This is the default for
> >>> >>> all SE productions, see the manual of
> >>> >>> style:https://standardebooks.org/ <https://
> standardebooks.org/> <https://
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Reading through the book, this isn’t the
> >>> >>> most obvious structure for a first
> >>> >>> production. But let’s see what we can do.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The book is structured into twelve
> >>> >>> chapters, each with multiple subchapters.
> >>> >>> The subchapters aren’t numbered
> >>> >>> sequentially themselves, but some have a
> >>> >>> character attached, and the number of the
> >>> >>> subchapter specifically for that
> >>> >>> character. If they don’t have a character
> >>> >>> name then it’s assumed that it’s a follow-
> >>> >>> on from the previous character.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> So, I’d say that we want to split this
> >>> >>> into 12 chapters. You‘ve done this ✅
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The main chapter headings should be just
> >>> >>> roman numerals. This is the default for
> >>> >>> all SE productions, see the manual of
> >>> >>> style:https://standardebooks.org/ <https://
> >>> standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> >>> >>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
> >>> >>>standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-> <http://
> <mailto:chelsea....@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Thank you for your help!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I have decided to keep "Chapter One"
> >>> >>>> format as in the original, since Roman
> >>> >>>> numerals are already used in the text and
> >>> >>>> it would be confusing for the reader.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 12:27 am 'Alex
> >>> >>>> Cabal' via Standard Ebooks,
> >>> >>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Thank you for your help!
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I have decided to keep "Chapter One"
> >>> >>>> format as in the original, since Roman
> >>> >>>> numerals are already used in the text and
> >>> >>>> it would be confusing for the reader.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 12:27 am 'Alex
> >>> >>>> Cabal' via Standard Ebooks,
> >>> >>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com
> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> OK, Robin will manage this with Vince
> >>> >>>> reviewing.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On 5/10/26 2:38 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>> >>>> > Hi,
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I think this is the correct link -
> >>> >>>> please correct me if I'm wrong!
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> OK, Robin will manage this with Vince
> >>> >>>> reviewing.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On 5/10/26 2:38 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>> >>>> > Hi,
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > I think this is the correct link -
> >>> >>>> please correct me if I'm wrong!
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> >https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>> >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> >>> >>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>>
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <http://
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/7166>>
> >>> >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <https://
> ebooks/7166>>
> >>> >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/7166>>>>
> >>> >>>> > Archive.org:https://
> >>> >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/
> details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/details/>
> >>> >>>> > Archive.org:https://
> >>> >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/
> details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/details/>>>
> >>> >>>> > homeandworld01unkngoog/
> >>> >>>> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/
> <https://archive.org/> <https://
> >>> archive.org/ <http://archive.org/>>
> >>> >>>> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/
> <https://archive.org/> <https://
> >>> >>>> <https://archive.org/ <https://
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> >>> >>>> > Best,
> >>> >>>> > Chelsea
> >>> >>>> >
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Names are never language, see
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.9.2
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
> <https://standardebooks.org/> <https://
> >>> standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> >>> >>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
> >>> >>>standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-> <http://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>>
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <http://
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> archive.org/details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://
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> CAPeSxYb5W0c5SO2DNoD7Bjo0Xd1Cob84DbbGAMn08o%3DX0LYruw%40mail.gmail.com <http://40mail.gmail.com> <http://40mail.gmail.com/ <http://40mail.gmail.com/>><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/ <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/ <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/>>CAPeSxYb5W0c5SO2DNoD7Bjo0Xd1Cob84DbbGAMn08o%3DX0LYruw%40mail.gmail.com <http://40mail.gmail.com> <http://40mail.gmail.com/ <http://40mail.gmail.com/>>? utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
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https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.9.2
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
> >> Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/
> collection/ <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> >> search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/
> collection/ <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> collection/ <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> >> search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/
> >> search/364294>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30
> robin wrote:
> >>
> >> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can
> wrap the
> >> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
> >>
> >> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
> >>
> >> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30
> robin wrote:
> >>
> >> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can
> wrap the
> >> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
> >>
> >> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
> >>
> >> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/
> single- <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single->
> >> page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/
> manual/1.8.7/ <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/>
> >> page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/
> >>> standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> >>> >>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
> >>> >>>standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-> <http://
> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>> >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> >>> >>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>> >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> >>> >>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>> >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the->
> >>> >>>> > world_surendranath-tagore.git
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Chelsea
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>> >>>> 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Can you send a link to your
> >>> >>>> repository?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Emma
> >>> >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>> >>>> 2:14:37 AM UTC-4bkwr...@gmail.comwrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Hi, I am following the
> >>> >>>> directions and got as far as se split-
> >>> >>>> > text . I ran it, but it
> >>> >>>> does not seem to have recognized the
> >>> >>>> > chapter breaks. What should
> >>> >>>> I do?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Best,
> >>> >>>> > Chelsea
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>> >>>> 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > As recommended, I will
> >>> >>>> do this book.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Project Gutenberg
> >>> >>>> text:https://www.gutenberg.org/
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/> <https://
> >>> >>>> > world_surendranath-tagore.git
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Chelsea
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>> >>>> 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Can you send a link to your
> >>> >>>> repository?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Emma
> >>> >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>> >>>> 2:14:37 AM UTC-4bkwr...@gmail.comwrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Hi, I am following the
> >>> >>>> directions and got as far as se split-
> >>> >>>> > text . I ran it, but it
> >>> >>>> does not seem to have recognized the
> >>> >>>> > chapter breaks. What should
> >>> >>>> I do?
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Best,
> >>> >>>> > Chelsea
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>> >>>> 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > As recommended, I will
> >>> >>>> do this book.
> >>> >>>> >
> >>> >>>> > Project Gutenberg
> >>> >>>> text:https://www.gutenberg.org/
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>>
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <http://
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/7166>>
> >>> >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <https://
> ebooks/7166>>
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> <https://archive.org/> <https://
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That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the name might be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they are wrapped in a <span xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to assist screen readers with pronunciation,” which is what she is asking about. It goes on to say most don’t need it, but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”
So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for the “occasionally”?
Alex Cabal
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No. The examples list place names which contain non-name words, even
though they're "names" of places. Those kinds of names can benefit from
language, but proper names of people, e.g. "Vince", are never language.
On 5/15/26 11:54 AM, Vince wrote:
> That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the name might
> be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they are wrapped in a <span
> xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to assist screen readers with
> pronunciation,” which is what she is asking about. It goes on to say /
> most/ don’t need it, but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”
>> page#8.2.9.2>
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though they're "names" of places. Those kinds of names can benefit from
language, but proper names of people, e.g. "Vince", are never language.
On 5/15/26 11:54 AM, Vince wrote:
> That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the name might
> be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they are wrapped in a <span
> xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to assist screen readers with
> most/ don’t need it, but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”
>
> So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for the
> “occasionally”?
>
>> On May 15, 2026, at 8:33 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Names are never language, seehttps://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/
>> single-page#8.2.9.2 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for the
> “occasionally”?
>
>> On May 15, 2026, at 8:33 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Names are never language, seehttps://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/
>> page#8.2.9.2>
>>
>> On 5/15/26 4:26 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>> Hi, I have a question about screenreader compatibility. If I want to
>>> have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e., Nikhil, Sandip,
>>> Bimala, the main characters), should I wrap them in the following?
>>> <span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>
>
>> On 5/15/26 4:26 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>> Hi, I have a question about screenreader compatibility. If I want to
>>> have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e., Nikhil, Sandip,
>>> Bimala, the main characters), should I wrap them in the following?
>>> <span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>
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Vince
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And, again, that is not what that section says. If that’s what you want it to say, then you should change it to say that, i.e. to specifically exclude people’s names. Right now it looks like it specifically includes them—“Most proper names of people … do not require this…”. Most readers are going to think that includes people’s names.
Chelsea McGill
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Hi, please see the formatting of the short letter in Ch. 4 in the Github commit. It is a very short note, so I wasn't sure exactly how to format it.
Best,
Chelsea
Robin Whittleton
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The epub:type="z3998:sender" should be on the paragraph itself, and you want signature semantics as well:
<blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter">
<p>An urgent matter⁠—⁠touching the Cause.</p>
<footer>
<p epub:type="z3998:sender z3998:signature">Sandip.</p>
</footer>
</blockquote>
You’re also missing styles for letters. Have a look at https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2
Also, while I was looking through your commit history, I noticed it’s a little bit piecemeal. For example, you’re making spelling modernization commits, but you don’t seem to have run the modernize-spelling command yet, and you only seem to be working on the first five chapters at this point? We also have at least one commit that makes editorial changes without being tagged as [Editorial].
Another thing is that some of your commits don’t have descriptive messages. For example, you’ve have three recent ones that just say “Update ch 4”, but not explain what’s being updated or why. The commit history should be readable to someone interested in the production process, and should tell the story of how the book was put together.
For your first few productions it’s really important that you follow the step-by-step process as closely as possible. This makes it easier on you, and much easier to review afterwards. I don’t want to put you off because this looks like an important work for Standard Ebooks to have. But some of these commits are going to have to be rebased anyway to fix stuff, so it might be easier and cleaner to start over with your new knowledge of the production process?
-Robin
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Hi,
I have read the description of what kind of commit to make, but I guess I misunderstood. I thought it was a way to save your work- is that not the case? I was going through and proofreading the text as necessary and tried to do a new commit for each editorial change.
You want me to start over from scratch?
Chelsea
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Git commits (and any VCS commit) are not a way to save your work in
progress, rather they are denote single cohesive units of work so that
people in the future can understand the steps you took and what you did.
Therefore, in SE, and in any software project, commits should be clean
units of complete and digestible work with clear messages. (That doesn't
mean they have to be *long* messages, just clear. In our work a few
words or a sentence is usually enough.)
If you just want to save your work in progress, look at branches or the
git stash. There are countless tutorials online.
On 5/16/26 7:08 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2>
>> i.e. to specifically /exclude/ people’s names. Right now it
>> looks like it specifically /includes/ them—“Most proper names
>> of /people … /do not require this…”. Most readers are going to
>>>>> single-page#8.2.9.2 <https://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> manual/1.8.7/single- <https://standardebooks.org/
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progress, rather they are denote single cohesive units of work so that
people in the future can understand the steps you took and what you did.
Therefore, in SE, and in any software project, commits should be clean
units of complete and digestible work with clear messages. (That doesn't
mean they have to be *long* messages, just clear. In our work a few
words or a sentence is usually enough.)
If you just want to save your work in progress, look at branches or the
git stash. There are countless tutorials online.
On 5/16/26 7:08 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have read the description of what kind of commit to make, but I guess
> I misunderstood. I thought it was a way to save your work- is that not
> the case? I was going through and proofreading the text as necessary and
> tried to do a new commit for each editorial change.
>
>
> You want me to start over from scratch?
>
> Chelsea
>
> On Sat, 16 May, 2026, 2:25 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net
> I misunderstood. I thought it was a way to save your work- is that not
> the case? I was going through and proofreading the text as necessary and
> tried to do a new commit for each editorial change.
>
>
> You want me to start over from scratch?
>
> Chelsea
>
> On Sat, 16 May, 2026, 2:25 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net
> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
>
> The epub:type="z3998:sender" should be on the paragraph itself, and
> you want signature semantics as well:
>
> <blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter">
> <p>An urgent matter⁠—⁠touching the Cause.</p>
> <footer>
> <p epub:type="z3998:sender z3998:signature">Sandip.</p>
> </footer>
> </blockquote>
>
> You’re also missing styles for letters. Have a look at https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2 <https://
>
> The epub:type="z3998:sender" should be on the paragraph itself, and
> you want signature semantics as well:
>
> <blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter">
> <p>An urgent matter⁠—⁠touching the Cause.</p>
> <footer>
> <p epub:type="z3998:sender z3998:signature">Sandip.</p>
> </footer>
> </blockquote>
>
> You’re also missing styles for letters. Have a look at https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2>
>
> Also, while I was looking through your commit history, I noticed
> it’s a little bit piecemeal. For example, you’re making spelling
> modernization commits, but you don’t seem to have run the modernize-
> spelling command yet, and you only seem to be working on the first
> five chapters at this point? We also have at least one commit that
> makes editorial changes without being tagged as [Editorial].
>
> Another thing is that some of your commits don’t have descriptive
> messages. For example, you’ve have three recent ones that just say
> “Update ch 4”, but not explain what’s being updated or why. The
> commit history should be readable to someone interested in the
> production process, and should tell the story of how the book was
> put together.
>
> For your first few productions it’s really important that you follow
> the step-by-step process as closely as possible. This makes it
> easier on you, and much easier to review afterwards. I don’t want to
> put you off because this looks like an important work for Standard
> Ebooks to have. But some of these commits are going to have to be
> rebased anyway to fix stuff, so it might be easier and cleaner to
> start over with your new knowledge of the production process?
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 16 May 2026, at 09:32, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
> Also, while I was looking through your commit history, I noticed
> it’s a little bit piecemeal. For example, you’re making spelling
> modernization commits, but you don’t seem to have run the modernize-
> spelling command yet, and you only seem to be working on the first
> five chapters at this point? We also have at least one commit that
> makes editorial changes without being tagged as [Editorial].
>
> Another thing is that some of your commits don’t have descriptive
> messages. For example, you’ve have three recent ones that just say
> “Update ch 4”, but not explain what’s being updated or why. The
> commit history should be readable to someone interested in the
> production process, and should tell the story of how the book was
> put together.
>
> For your first few productions it’s really important that you follow
> the step-by-step process as closely as possible. This makes it
> easier on you, and much easier to review afterwards. I don’t want to
> put you off because this looks like an important work for Standard
> Ebooks to have. But some of these commits are going to have to be
> rebased anyway to fix stuff, so it might be easier and cleaner to
> start over with your new knowledge of the production process?
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 16 May 2026, at 09:32, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, please see the formatting of the short letter in Ch. 4 in the
>> Github commit. It is a very short note, so I wasn't sure exactly
>> how to format it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chelsea
>>
>> On Saturday, May 16, 2026 at 2:08:02 AM UTC+5:30 Vince wrote:
>>
>> And, again, that is not what that section says. If that’s what
>> you /want/ it to say, then you should change it to say that,
>>
>> Hi, please see the formatting of the short letter in Ch. 4 in the
>> Github commit. It is a very short note, so I wasn't sure exactly
>> how to format it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chelsea
>>
>> On Saturday, May 16, 2026 at 2:08:02 AM UTC+5:30 Vince wrote:
>>
>> And, again, that is not what that section says. If that’s what
>> i.e. to specifically /exclude/ people’s names. Right now it
>> looks like it specifically /includes/ them—“Most proper names
>> of /people … /do not require this…”. Most readers are going to
>> think that includes people’s names.
>>
>>> On May 15, 2026, at 3:20 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No. The examples list place names which contain non-name
>>> words, even though they're "names" of places. Those kinds of
>>> names can benefit from language, but proper names of people,
>>> e.g. "Vince", are never language.
>>>
>>> On 5/15/26 11:54 AM, Vince wrote:
>>>> That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the
>>>> name might be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they
>>>> are wrapped in a <span xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to
>>>> assist screen readers with pronunciation,” which is what she
>>>> is asking about. It goes on to say / most/ don’t need it,
>>>> but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”
>>>> So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for
>>>> the “occasionally”?
>>>>> On May 15, 2026, at 8:33 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
>>>>> Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Names are never language, seehttps://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> manual/1.8.7/ <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/>
>>
>>> On May 15, 2026, at 3:20 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No. The examples list place names which contain non-name
>>> words, even though they're "names" of places. Those kinds of
>>> names can benefit from language, but proper names of people,
>>> e.g. "Vince", are never language.
>>>
>>> On 5/15/26 11:54 AM, Vince wrote:
>>>> That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the
>>>> name might be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they
>>>> are wrapped in a <span xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to
>>>> assist screen readers with pronunciation,” which is what she
>>>> is asking about. It goes on to say / most/ don’t need it,
>>>> but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”
>>>> So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for
>>>> the “occasionally”?
>>>>> On May 15, 2026, at 8:33 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
>>>>> Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Names are never language, seehttps://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> single-page#8.2.9.2 <https://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> manual/1.8.7/single- <https://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> manual/1.8.7/single-> page#8.2.9.2>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/15/26 4:26 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, I have a question about screenreader compatibility. If
>>>>>> I want to have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e.,
>>>>>> Nikhil, Sandip, Bimala, the main characters), should I
>>>>>> wrap them in the following?
>>>>>> <span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>
>>>> --
>>
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>>>>>> I want to have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e.,
>>>>>> Nikhil, Sandip, Bimala, the main characters), should I
>>>>>> wrap them in the following?
>>>>>> <span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>
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Hi all, the new repository is https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore2
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OK, I've updated your project with the new repo.
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> >>>>> On 5/15/26 4:26 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
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> >>>>>> I want to have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e.,
> >>>>>> Nikhil, Sandip, Bimala, the main characters), should I
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Thanks, and apologies. It’s never fun to start over, but I think you’ll get to a better place quicker.
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Yes, and it’s much easier now than when the reviewer says it needs to be done. :)
Chelsea McGill
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Hi,
I am going through and formatting all the poetry fragments in the work. I had a question about the CSS.
Since these are fragments and part of a novel, I am wrapping it in <blockquote> and z3998:verse.
The provided CSS codes all use z3998:poem, such as this one:
[epub|type~="z3998:poem"] p > span + br{
display: none;
}
Should I add this CSS to the CSS Core file? And when I do so, should I change the z3998:poem to z3998:verse?
Should I add this CSS to the CSS Core file? And when I do so, should I change the z3998:poem to z3998:verse?
Best,
Chelsea
Robin Whittleton
May 21, 2026, 1:25:29 AMMay 21
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All additional CSS is added to local.css. Lint will complain if any changes are made to core.css.
For the verse styling, yes, copy in the poem styles and change z3998:poem to z3998:verse.
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Hi, Could you please take a look at my recent commits and tell me if they are ok?
Best,
Chelsea
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Yep, much better, thanks for doing that.
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Chelsea McGill
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Hi,
I have almost finished with this work. I have a few questions:
1. I am getting a parsing error on the endnotes file, but try as I might I don't see the issue. Could you please see if you can find it? This is the error:
Couldn’t parse XML. Exception: Opening and ending tag mismatch: p line 76 and li, line 78, column 10 (<string>, line 78)
2. I ran se build title, but it doesn't seem to have changed any of the title elements. Instead, it has changed the code I added for m-dashes and ellipses. What should I do? (I have not done a git commit for this, as it seems to be wrong.)
Thanks,
Chelsea
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Also, would this work for the cover image? It's by the author and in public domain! File:Rabindranath Tagore Brooding.jpg - Wikimedia Commons https://share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI
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1. On line 86 your closing paragraph tag is actually an opening paragraph tag.
2. I’m not sure why build-title is changing the elements, but we want to use unicode directly rather than HTML entities wherever possible. Once you’ve fixed the XHTML issue in (1) I’d suggest running se clean and double-checking that the results are OK: that the HTML entities have been converted into unicode characters directly. Then build-title should be able to do its thing.
I also noticed that you’ve left the ids from the original edition on the paragraphs. Those should be removed at some point.
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The cover looks great from a composition point of view, but just because Wikipedia says it’s in the public domain doesn’t mean it’s true unfortunately. So what we’re looking for is either a CC0 declaration (Creative Commons Zero) by the rights owners, or for a photo of the art to be in a book published in 1930 or earlier. That might be quite hard here; I had a quick look and nothing obvious is coming up. But give it a go.
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Chelsea McGill
Jun 3, 2026, 7:28:44 AM (13 days ago) Jun 3
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This is from the Government of India museums website for this painting. Does this work?
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Chelsea McGill
Jun 3, 2026, 8:22:19 AM (13 days ago) Jun 3
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Some alternatives:
https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O209678/painting-tagore-gaganendranath/ - Painting of houses in Bengal by Rabindranath Tagore's relative
https://museumsofindia.gov.in/repository/record/vmh_kol-RBS27ANT-16706 - Very important painting for the Nationalist Movement in India, painted by Rabindranath Tagore's relative
Best,
Chelsea
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See this cover art clearance FAQ:
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.8/single-page#10.3.3.7.5
Also PD clearance procedure:
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.8/single-page#10.3.3.7.1
On 6/3/26 6:28 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> This is from the Government of India museums website for this painting.
> Does this work?
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun, 2026, 3:33 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net
>> share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI>
>>>> [epub|type~="z3998:poem"]p>span+br{display:none;}
>>>>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
>>>>>> world_surendranath-tagore2>
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On 6/3/26 6:28 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> This is from the Government of India museums website for this painting.
> Does this work?
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun, 2026, 3:33 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net
> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
>
> The cover looks great from a composition point of view, but just
> because Wikipedia says it’s in the public domain doesn’t mean it’s
> true unfortunately. So what we’re looking for is either a CC0
> declaration (Creative Commons Zero) by the rights owners, or for a
> photo of the art to be in a book published in 1930 or earlier. That
> might be quite hard here; I had a quick look and nothing obvious is
> coming up. But give it a go.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 3 Jun 2026, at 05:52, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
>
> The cover looks great from a composition point of view, but just
> because Wikipedia says it’s in the public domain doesn’t mean it’s
> true unfortunately. So what we’re looking for is either a CC0
> declaration (Creative Commons Zero) by the rights owners, or for a
> photo of the art to be in a book published in 1930 or earlier. That
> might be quite hard here; I had a quick look and nothing obvious is
> coming up. But give it a go.
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 3 Jun 2026, at 05:52, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Also, would this work for the cover image? It's by the author and
>> in public domain! File:Rabindranath Tagore Brooding.jpg -
>> Wikimedia Commonshttps://share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI <https://
>>
>> Also, would this work for the cover image? It's by the author and
>> in public domain! File:Rabindranath Tagore Brooding.jpg -
>> share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI>
>>>> Should I add this CSS to the CSS Core file? And when
>>>> I do so, should I change the z3998:poem to z3998:verse?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Chelsea
>>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2026 at 12:59:12 AM UTC+5:30
>>>> Vince wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and it’s much easier now than when the
>>>> reviewer says it needs to be done. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 18, 2026, at 2:03 PM, Robin Whittleton
>>>>> <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and apologies. It’s never fun to start
>>>>> over, but I think you’ll get to a better place
>>>>> quicker.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Robin
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 May 2026, at 11:03, Chelsea McGill
>>>>>> <bkwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, the new repository is https://
>>>>>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-
>>>>>> tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-
>>>>>> tagore2 <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
>>>> I do so, should I change the z3998:poem to z3998:verse?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Chelsea
>>>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2026 at 12:59:12 AM UTC+5:30
>>>> Vince wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and it’s much easier now than when the
>>>> reviewer says it needs to be done. :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 18, 2026, at 2:03 PM, Robin Whittleton
>>>>> <ro...@reala.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and apologies. It’s never fun to start
>>>>> over, but I think you’ll get to a better place
>>>>> quicker.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Robin
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 May 2026, at 11:03, Chelsea McGill
>>>>>> <bkwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, the new repository is https://
>>>>>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-
>>>>>> tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-
>>>>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
>>>>>> world_surendranath-tagore2>
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This is the original publication of the painting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Mata#/media/File:Bharat_Mata_by_Abanindranath_Tagore.jpg. Do let me know if this scan will work. It was published in the Bengali magazine Probashi in 1906. This image is taken from https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/csss/Prabasi/PRABASI_VOL_6.pdf.
This is the page in archive.org, very bad quality: https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.1122/page/n267/mode/2up
If necessary, I can probably go to the archive and take a picture of the page in the physical copy of the magazine.
Best,
Chelsea
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Robin Whittleton
Jun 4, 2026, 10:56:43 AM (12 days ago) Jun 4
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There is this painting of Rabindranath by Abanindranath Tagore: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%A3%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE_(%E0%A7%A7%E0%A7%AE%E0%A7%AF%E0%A7%AF)_%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A5_%E0%A6%A0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B0_(page_8_crop).jpg
There’s public domain proof in The Modern Review from 1913: https://hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b2867427?urlappend=%3Bseq=827%3Bownerid=9007199274032667-882
The quality is pretty low though. Maybe someone with Gigapixel might be able to attempt a resize?
-Robin
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I also uploaded this image with proof found in the magazine you linked to. It’s presumably not right for this work, but could be useful for something else so thanks. https://standardebooks.org/artworks/raja-ravi-varma/sairandhri
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That's big enough where upsizing in Gimp *might* come out acceptably
On 6/4/26 9:56 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> There is this painting of Rabindranath by Abanindranath Tagore: https://
> commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:
> %E0%A6%95%E0%A6%A3%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE_(%E0%A7%A7%E0%A7%AE%E0%A7%AF%E0%A7%AF)_%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A5_%E0%A6%A0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B0_(page_8_crop).jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%A3%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE_(%E0%A7%A7%E0%A7%AE%E0%A7%AF%E0%A7%AF)_%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A5_%E0%A6%A0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B0_(page_8_crop).jpg>
>
> There’s public domain proof in /The Modern Review/ from 1913: https://
> hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b2867427?
> urlappend=%3Bseq=827%3Bownerid=9007199274032667-882 <https://
> hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b2867427?
> urlappend=%3Bseq=827%3Bownerid=9007199274032667-882>
>> standardebooks.org/artworks/abanindranath-tagore/bharat-mata>).
>> <http://gmail.com/>wrote:
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Mata#/media/
>> File:Bharat_Mata_by_Abanindranath_Tagore.jpg>. Do let me know if
>> heidelberg.de/csss/Prabasi/PRABASI_VOL_6.pdf>.
>> This is the page inarchive.org <http://archive.org/>, very bad
>> quality:https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.1122/page/
>> n267/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.1122/
>> page/n267/mode/2up>
>> <http://share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI><https://
>> >>share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI <http://share.google/
>> >>>>>>github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath- <http://
>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath->
>> >>>>>> tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-
>> >>>>>> tagore2 <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <https://
>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/>
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On 6/4/26 9:56 AM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> There is this painting of Rabindranath by Abanindranath Tagore: https://
> commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:
>
> There’s public domain proof in /The Modern Review/ from 1913: https://
> hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b2867427?
> urlappend=%3Bseq=827%3Bownerid=9007199274032667-882 <https://
> hdl.handle.net/2027/uc1.b2867427?
> urlappend=%3Bseq=827%3Bownerid=9007199274032667-882>
>
> The quality is pretty low though. Maybe someone with Gigapixel might be
> able to attempt a resize?
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 4 Jun 2026, at 07:38, Emma Sweeney <sween...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That painting is already in use (Bharat Mata <https://
> The quality is pretty low though. Maybe someone with Gigapixel might be
> able to attempt a resize?
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 4 Jun 2026, at 07:38, Emma Sweeney <sween...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> standardebooks.org/artworks/abanindranath-tagore/bharat-mata>).
>> <http://gmail.com/>wrote:
>>
>> This is the original publication of the paintinghttps://
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Mata#/media/
>> File:Bharat_Mata_by_Abanindranath_Tagore.jpg <https://
>> This is the original publication of the paintinghttps://
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Mata#/media/
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Mata#/media/
>> File:Bharat_Mata_by_Abanindranath_Tagore.jpg>. Do let me know if
>> this scan will work. It was published in the Bengali magazine
>> Probashi in 1906. This image is taken fromhttps://digi.ub.uni-
>> heidelberg.de/csss/Prabasi/PRABASI_VOL_6.pdf <https://digi.ub.uni-
>> Probashi in 1906. This image is taken fromhttps://digi.ub.uni-
>> heidelberg.de/csss/Prabasi/PRABASI_VOL_6.pdf>.
>> This is the page inarchive.org <http://archive.org/>, very bad
>> quality:https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.1122/page/
>> n267/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/dli.bengal.10689.1122/
>> page/n267/mode/2up>
>> >>share.google/JiWaB3PG5WWjt4pkI <http://share.google/
>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath->
>> >>>>>> tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-
>> >>>>>> tagore2 <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <https://
>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/>
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Robin Whittleton
Jun 4, 2026, 12:08:19 PM (12 days ago) Jun 4
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OK, I’ve uploaded it to the DB at https://standardebooks.org/artworks/abanindranath-tagore/rabindranath-tagore. I’ve also resized and cropped it to a normal cover size and removed some of the most egregious problems, see attached.
_%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%AC%E0%A7%80%E0%A6%A8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A5_%E0%A6%A0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%81%E0%A6%B0_(page_8_crop).jpeg?part=0.1.1&view=1)
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Chelsea McGill
Jun 4, 2026, 10:58:33 PM (12 days ago) Jun 4
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Great, thank you!
Best,
Chelsea
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Chelsea McGill
Jun 12, 2026, 1:36:25 AM (5 days ago) Jun 12
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Hi,
I am going through the lint results. I am not sure how to handle this one. In Chapter 5 there are two Nikhil subchapters, separated by one of another character. How should I edit the subchapter code to handle this?
Best,
Chelsea
Chelsea McGill
Jun 12, 2026, 1:50:08 AM (5 days ago) Jun 12
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Hi, could you also please add this image to the db - I call it for The Clay Cart when I work on it. https://dams.birminghammuseums.org.uk/assetbank-birminghammuseums/action/viewAsset?id=15253&index=96&total=226&view=viewSearchItem
Robin Whittleton
Jun 12, 2026, 2:38:26 AM (5 days ago) Jun 12
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The structure as you’ve done it looks fine, it’s just the duplicate ids that are the problem right? I might make the first chapter-5-nikhil id chapter-5-nikhil-a and the second chapter-5-nikhil-b. Id attribute naming is convention, not explicit.
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Robin Whittleton
Jun 12, 2026, 2:45:37 AM (5 days ago) Jun 12
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It’s up at https://standardebooks.org/artworks/george-chinnery/bengal-village-scene. Did you want me to assign it to this project?
You might want to think about potential crops: the water carrier at the bottom would easily be covered by the title box if you crop just the horizontal edges. Not sure if that’s a problem or not.
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Chelsea McGill
Jun 12, 2026, 11:11:33 PM (4 days ago) Jun 12
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Hi Robin,
Thanks for this. I want to use this image for a future project; it would fit the Clay Cart perfectly. For The Home and the World I will use the picture of Rabindranath, as agreed.
Best,
Chelsea
Chelsea McGill
Jun 12, 2026, 11:30:35 PM (4 days ago) Jun 12
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Hi,
I tried the SE Build command, but got this error. Please let me know what to do:
immersive@immersives-MacBook-Air rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore % se build --output-dir=$HOME/dist/ --kindle --kobo .
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Users/immersive/.local/bin/se", line 6, in <module>
sys.exit(main())
~~~~^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/main.py", line 77, in main
sys.exit(getattr(module, command_function)(args.plain_output))
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/commands/build.py", line 55, in build
se_epub.build(args.check, args.check_only, args.build_kobo, args.build_kindle, Path(args.output_dir), args.proof)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/se_epub.py", line 1944, in build
from se.se_epub_build import build # pylint: disable=import-outside-toplevel
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/se_epub_build.py", line 21, in <module>
from cairosvg import svg2png # type: ignore Not going to hand-write the type hint for this crazy huge function right now.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/cairosvg/__init__.py", line 25, in <module>
from . import surface # noqa isort:skip
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/cairosvg/surface.py", line 9, in <module>
import cairocffi as cairo
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/cairocffi/__init__.py", line 60, in <module>
cairo = dlopen(
ffi, ('cairo-2', 'cairo', 'libcairo-2'),
('libcairo.so.2', 'libcairo.2.dylib', 'libcairo-2.dll'))
File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/cairocffi/__init__.py", line 57, in dlopen
raise OSError(error_message) # pragma: no cover
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OSError: no library called "cairo-2" was found
no library called "cairo" was found
no library called "libcairo-2" was found
cannot load library 'libcairo.so.2': dlopen(libcairo.so.2, 0x0002): tried: 'libcairo.so.2' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OSlibcairo.so.2' (no such file), '/opt/homebrew/lib/libcairo.so.2' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/opt/homebrew/lib/libcairo.so.2' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libcairo.so.2' (no such file, not in dyld cache), 'libcairo.so.2' (no such file). Additionally, ctypes.util.find_library() did not manage to locate a library called 'libcairo.so.2'
cannot load library 'libcairo.2.dylib': dlopen(libcairo.2.dylib, 0x0002): tried: 'libcairo.2.dylib' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OSlibcairo.2.dylib' (no such file), '/opt/homebrew/lib/libcairo.2.dylib' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/opt/homebrew/lib/libcairo.2.dylib' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libcairo.2.dylib' (no such file, not in dyld cache), 'libcairo.2.dylib' (no such file). Additionally, ctypes.util.find_library() did not manage to locate a library called 'libcairo.2.dylib'
cannot load library 'libcairo-2.dll': dlopen(libcairo-2.dll, 0x0002): tried: 'libcairo-2.dll' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OSlibcairo-2.dll' (no such file), '/opt/homebrew/lib/libcairo-2.dll' (no such file), '/System/Volumes/Preboot/Cryptexes/OS/opt/homebrew/lib/libcairo-2.dll' (no such file), '/usr/lib/libcairo-2.dll' (no such file, not in dyld cache), 'libcairo-2.dll' (no such file). Additionally, ctypes.util.find_library() did not manage to locate a library called 'libcairo-2.dll'
Robin Whittleton
Jun 13, 2026, 3:36:57 AM (4 days ago) Jun 13
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You’re missing cairo. Can you remember how you installed the toolkit in the first place?
-Robin
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Chelsea McGill
Jun 15, 2026, 7:15:15 AM (yesterday) Jun 15
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Hi, I used pipx install standardebooks . I just ran an update pipx, which was successful but I got the same error again when I tried to build.
Best,
Chelsea
Robin Whittleton
Jun 15, 2026, 7:23:49 AM (yesterday) Jun 15
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Ah, ok. If you’re using pipx then there are some other dependencies you need to install. But as you need brew to install the dependencies, you might just as well use brew to install standardebooks as it automates the dependencies. Either way, have a look at the installation instructions at https://github.com/standardebooks/tools#macos-users
-Robin
On 15 Jun 2026, at 13:15, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I used pipx install standardebooks . I just ran an update pipx, which was successful but I got the same error again when I tried to build.
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Chelsea McGill
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Hi Robin,
I've fixed it and generated the ebooks. Thanks!
Chelsea
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