[First project] The Home and the World by Rabindranath Tagore

[Chelsea McGill]

As recommended, I will do this book. 

Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166

Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/page/V/mode/2up

Best, 

Chelsea

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-text . I ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the chapter breaks. What should I do?

Best, 

Chelsea

[Emma Sweeney]

Can you send a link to your repository?

Emma

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

I think this is the correct link - please correct me if I'm wrong! 

https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore.git

Chelsea

[Emma Sweeney]

Before you split the text into chapters, you need to do some work in the body.xhtml in order for the text to split correctly.

1. You need to make sure sure each chapter title is surrounded by a <h2> element. It looks like some of the chapters are in <h3> elements, which won't work for the next step.

2. It is important to run all of the commands in Step 7 in that specific order. Without running `perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' src/epub/text/body.xhtml`, `se split-file` won't work.

Emma

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

The structure of this text is a little weird, so I'm not sure what headings to add. Within each chapter there are multiple characters' points of view, and within each character's point of view are section headings I, II, etc. Could you please help me out with what elements should be used to give this structure? You can see it on https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/page/XI/mode/2up . 

Thanks, 

Chelsea

[Weijia Cheng]

In this case, you will probably want to divide the book using se split-file into top level chapter files (heading level 2). Each chapter file would then include <section> elements for the individual characters' perspectives (heading level 3) and the <section> elements for the individual characters' subchapters (heading level 4). You will want to divide the book based on the top-level chapter file and then you will need to insert the subdivisions yourself. Arrowsmith is an example of a book with subchapters, although you will have one extra level of layering.

Also, it looks like the latest change you pushed to the repository to divide the chapters did not work the way you wanted it to. You will either need to drop the latest commit and force push to the repository or start over to make sure that your commit history is in line.

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

I have changed the headings to standardize as suggested. Please check and make sure that I have done it properly; I have pushed the changes to repository. 

[Emma Sweeney]

I don't see any changes to the repository. 

Emma

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi,

I just made changes inside the file; I haven't used se split yet

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[Emma Sweeney]

The changes have not been pushed to your remote repository, so I cannot see any of the changes you've made. You need to commit any changes you've made and run `git push origin master`. After you've run that command, check your remote repository. Once you are able to see it online, let us know.

Emma

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

I can see it online here: https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/commit/679a5c39da4b5f4e6719894f440938fbdeb22481 . Please let me know whether you can see it too. 

Best, 

Chelsea

[Chelsea McGill]

Also I tried to run perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' on this file, but I got this error: 

rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore % perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g'/Users/immersive/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/src/epub/text/body.xhtml

-i used with no filenames on the command line, reading from STDIN.

syntax error at -e line 1, near "-and"

Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.

[Chris Salt]

Hi Chelsea, if you're already in the rabindrath-tagore... etc then you should just be able to use

perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' src/epub/text/body.xhtml

(note the space before src)

You can also use perl -pi -e 's|<h2|<!--se:split--><h2|g' /Users/immersive/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/src/epub/text/body.xhtml

but again, you need the space between the search string and the file path.

[Chelsea McGill]

Ok, I ran that and it didn't return any errors. Then I tried split-file again and it gave this error (and only created one new file, Chapter-1. 

ndranath-tagore % se split-file /Users/immersive/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore/src/epub/text/body.xhtml

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "/Users/immersive/.local/bin/se", line 6, in <module>

    sys.exit(main())

             ~~~~^^

  File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/main.py", line 77, in main

    sys.exit(getattr(module, command_function)(args.plain_output))

             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  File "/Users/immersive/.local/pipx/venvs/standardebooks/lib/python3.14/site-packages/se/commands/split_file.py", line 77, in split_file

    prefix, suffix = line.split("<!--se:split-->")

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ValueError: too many values to unpack (expected 2, got 3)

[Chelsea McGill]

Please ignore the last email; I figured it out on my own. 

Since there are subsections in each chapter, would you recommend I split it further? Or are chapters ok?

Best, 

Chelsea

[Alex Cabal]

Before you continue, please send a link to your repository so we can
start a project for you, and assign a manager and reviewer who will
answer questions you might have.

On 5/10/26 1:14 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-text . I
> ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the chapter breaks. What
> should I do?
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> As recommended, I will do this book.
>
> Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166

> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166>
> Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/
> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/details/homeandworld01unkngoog/
> page/V/mode/2up>
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> Best,
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[Alex Cabal]

OK, Robin will manage this with Vince reviewing.

On 5/10/26 2:38 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think this is the correct link - please correct me if I'm wrong!
>
> https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> world_surendranath-tagore.git
>
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>
> Can you send a link to your repository?
>
> Emma
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 2:14:37 AM UTC-4 bkwr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi, I am following the directions and got as far as se split-
> text . I ran it, but it does not seem to have recognized the
> chapter breaks. What should I do?
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>
> As recommended, I will do this book.
>
> Project Gutenberg text: https://www.gutenberg.org/

> ebooks/7166 <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166>
> Archive.org: https://archive.org/details/

> homeandworld01unkngoog/page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/

> details/homeandworld01unkngoog/page/V/mode/2up>
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> Chelsea
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[Chelsea McGill]

Thank you for your help!

I have decided to keep "Chapter One" format as in the original, since Roman numerals are already used in the text and it would be confusing for the reader.

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[Robin Whittleton]

Reading through the book, this isn’t the most obvious structure for a first production. But let’s see what we can do.

The book is structured into twelve chapters, each with multiple subchapters. The subchapters aren’t numbered sequentially themselves, but some have a character attached, and the number of the subchapter specifically for that character. If they don’t have a character name then it’s assumed that it’s a follow-on from the previous character.

So, I’d say that we want to split this into 12 chapters. You‘ve done this ✅

The main chapter headings should be just roman numerals. This is the default for all SE productions, see the manual of style: https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1. So the main headings will look something like:

<h2 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h2>

Then inside each chapter, you’ve got the subchapters. These should be have their own section elements. Taking the first chapter, directly after the main heading we’d open a subchapter section with:

<section id="chapter-1-1" epub:type="z3998:subchapter">

…and close it with </section> before the next. Further subchapters in the same chapter would be chapter-1-2, chapter-1-3, etc. Then we just need to get the heading structure correct for the subchapters. Personally, I think I’d reverse it so that rather than (for example) ”Nikhil’s Story - I” we’d have “I - Nikhil”s Story”. That would mean that when it’s just a number the title would look like:

<h3 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h3>

And with a tagline indicating whose story it is:

<hgroup>

<h3 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h3>

<p epub:type="title">Nikhil’s Story</p>

</hgroup>

Does that make sense and do you agree? This isn’t a structure I’ve seen before but I think it’s workable.

-Robin

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi Robin,

Sure, this makes sense. Would it be better if I add the character's name to each subchapter so that the differentiation between the subchapter roman numerals and the chapter roman numerals is clear?

Also to be clear, I will not be splitting the files any further, right?

Best,

Chelsea

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[Weijia Cheng]

Robin, as I observed earlier, there are actually three levels of nesting in this book. The individual characters' stories are broken up between the chapter files. So for example, Nikhil's story has two chapters (I and II) in chapter-2.xhtml, and then continues with chapter III in chapter-4.xhtml. So I suggest that the divison should actually be

<h2 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">III</h2> on the top level

Below this each chapter file should have subchapters like:

<section id="chapter-1-bimala" epub:type="z3998:subchapter">

with this heading:

<h3 epub:type="title">Bimala's Story</h3>

Then there should be a second level of division:

<section id="chapter-1-bimala-1" epub:type="z3998:division">

with this heading:

<h4 epub:type="ordinal z3998:roman">I</h2> on the top level

This will account for how the individual characters' stories are broken up across the top level chapters, and how the top-level chapters can have multiple characters.

[Weijia Cheng]

Oops, ignore the "on the top level" comment on the last heading example. I copied-and-pasted that from the first example.

[Chelsea McGill]

Thank you very much for this Weijia, this makes a lot of sense. I will follow this format.

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, I have done as Weijia suggested in Chapter 1. Please check and make sure I have done it correctly. Thanks! 

Chelsea

[Chelsea McGill]

I realized that Ch. 2 is more complex, so I have also made the changes in Ch. 2. Please check to make sure I have done it correctly. 

Best 

Chelsea

[Robin Whittleton]

Leaving aside that you need one more </section> at the end in both chapters, that looks good!

(Thanks Weijia, I missed your original comment but this approach makes more sense.)

-Robin

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I open the file in browser I'm getting an error message for Ch 5. Could you please check and let me know what to change? Thanks

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[Alex Cabal]

If you're getting an error in the browser then your XHTML is malformed.
There is a missing closing tag, mismatched nesting, or some other XHTML
syntax level error. The browser should give you a hint in its error message.

On 5/12/26 10:43 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I open the file in
> browser I'm getting an error message for Ch 5. Could you please check
> and let me know what to change? Thanks
>
> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 8:16 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net

> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
>
> Leaving aside that you need one more </section> at the end in both
> chapters, that looks good!
>
> (Thanks Weijia, I missed your original comment but this approach
> makes more sense.)
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 12 May 2026, at 16:25, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com

>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
>> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
>> page#8.1.1>. So the main headings will

>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the->

>>> > world_surendranath-tagore.git
>>> >
>>> > Chelsea
>>> >
>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
>>> >
>>> >     Can you send a link to your
>>> repository?
>>> >
>>> >     Emma
>>> >     On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 2:14:37 AM UTC-4bkwr...@gmail.comwrote:
>>> >
>>> >         Hi, I am following the
>>> directions and got as far as se split-
>>> >         text . I ran it, but it
>>> does not seem to have recognized the
>>> >         chapter breaks. What should
>>> I do?
>>> >
>>> >         Best,
>>> >         Chelsea
>>> >
>>> >         On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
>>> 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>> >
>>> >             As recommended, I will
>>> do this book.
>>> >
>>> >             Project Gutenberg
>>> text:https://www.gutenberg.org/

>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/>
>>> >             ebooks/7166 <https://

>>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166
>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166>>
>>> >             Archive.org:https://

>>> archive.org/details/ <https://
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>>> >             homeandworld01unkngoog/
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>>> >             details/

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>>> >             Best,
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[Robin Whittleton]

As Alex pointed out, browsers can help narrow in. In this case, you need another closing </section> after the one on line 65, and again after the one on line 159.

You’re also missing closing and opening section tags before Bimala’s XIII in chapter 5.

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

I have finished changing the footnotes into endnotes. Could you please take a look at note 22? It is a 2-paragraph note and I want to make sure that I formatted it properly. 

Also many of the endnotes end with [Trans.] to indicate that the Translator added the note. Should I keep this as-is or is there another format that is preferred?

Best, 

Chelsea

[Robin Whittleton]

Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:

<cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>

See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.10.5.3.

-Robin

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, I have been thinking about images to use for the cover. Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/364294

[Chelsea McGill]

I had a question about the term Bande Mataram. I am keeping it in italics since it is a Bengali term. When it is used as the name of the song, how should it be formatted? I have used the following; please let me know if this is correct: 

<i epub:type="se:name.publication.song" xml:lang="bn">Bande Mataram</i>. 

[Chelsea McGill]

I have updated the syntax in the endnotes. Could you please check? In particular, I wasn't sure what to do about the Upanishads and Ramayana; both are Sacred Texts, so should they be in italics or not?

Also I have checked Mirriam-Webster and the Bengali words used in the endnotes are all listed there. So should they be italicized? They are italicized in the original. 

[Robin Whittleton]

On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact) but typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on this one?

On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:

“<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande Mataram</span>”

including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin orthography for the Bengali word.

On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2. As the Bengali words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered now part of English (unless MW specifically says a language).

(Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments in the endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)

-Robin

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[Robin Whittleton]

Forgot to check the endnotes syntax. You don’t need the second period after the cite, just have a single space between that and the link.

-Robin

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[Alex Cabal]

I agree it's too watercolor-y

On 5/14/26 3:17 PM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and
> looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do
> occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact) but
> typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on this one?
>
> On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
>
> “<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande Mataram</
> span>”
>
> including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin orthography
> for the Bengali word.
>
> On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://

> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2>. As the Bengali

> words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered now part
> of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
>
> (Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments in the
> endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 14 May 2026, at 07:48, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have updated the syntax in the endnotes. Could you please check? In
>> particular, I wasn't sure what to do about the Upanishads and
>> Ramayana; both are Sacred Texts, so should they be in italics or not?
>>
>> Also I have checked Mirriam-Webster and the Bengali words used in the
>> endnotes are all listed there. So should they be italicized? They are
>> italicized in the original.
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 10:50:47 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>
>> I had a question about the term Bande Mataram. I am keeping it in
>> italics since it is a Bengali term. When it is used as the name of
>> the song, how should it be formatted? I have used the following;
>> please let me know if this is correct:
>>
>> <i epub:type="se:name.publication.song" xml:lang="bn">Bande
>> Mataram</i>.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 9:21:02 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I have been thinking about images to use for the cover.
>> Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/

>> search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/
>> search/364294>

>>
>> On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30 robin wrote:
>>
>> Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the
>> Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
>>
>> <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
>>
>> See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-

>> page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/
>> single-page#7.10.5.3>.

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>>> >>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
>>> >>>standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single- <http://

>>> >>>> >https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <https://
>>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/>
>>> >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
>>> >>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <https://
>>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/>

>>> >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ <https://
>>> www.gutenberg.org/>>
>>> >>>> > ebooks/7166 <https://
>>> >>>>www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://
>>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166>

>>> >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <https://
>>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166>>>
>>> >>>> > Archive.org:https://

>>> >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/details/
>>> ><https://
>>> >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/details/>>

>>> >>>> > homeandworld01unkngoog/
>>> >>>> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/ <https://
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>>> >>>> <https://archive.org/ <https://archive.org/>>
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[Chelsea McGill]

I'm just curious - is there an explanation somewhere about the preference for oil paintings over watercolor? Oil paintings are relatively rare in colonial art in India because watercolor was preferred. So it will be a bit difficult to find public domain oil paintings to use from India. 

I just want to note that I suggested this watercolor painting because it depicts the historically accurate exact kind of room that much of the novel takes place in. I am quite certain that there is no equivalent painting in oil, outside of maybe private collections. 

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, I have a question about screenreader compatibility. If I want to have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e., Nikhil, Sandip, Bimala, the main characters), should I wrap them in the following?

<span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>

Thanks, 

Chelsea

[Alex Cabal]

It is to maintain a semi-consistent look across all of our ebook covers.

Yes, it can be difficult to find something for Indian subjects. A key
word when searching for artwork is "orientalism", a catchall term used
by artists before around 1900 to describe any Asian-inspired art.

Watercolors are sometimes acceptable if they don't look too much like
obvious watercolors, but your selection was clearly a watercolor
illustration.

On 5/15/26 12:04 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> I'm just curious - is there an explanation somewhere about the
> preference for oil paintings over watercolor? Oil paintings are
> relatively rare in colonial art in India because watercolor was
> preferred. So it will be a bit difficult to find public domain oil
> paintings to use from India.
>
> I just want to note that I suggested this watercolor painting because it
> depicts the historically accurate exact kind of room that much of the
> novel takes place in. I am quite certain that there is no equivalent
> painting in oil, outside of maybe private collections.
>
> On Fri, 15 May, 2026, 1:52 am 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks,
> <standar...@googlegroups.com

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> I agree it's too watercolor-y
>
> On 5/14/26 3:17 PM, Robin Whittleton wrote:
> > On the cover image, that’s fine from a licensing point of view, and
> > looks potentially appropriate, but it’s a watercolour. We do
> > occasionally use watercolours (my latest project was one in fact)
> but
> > typically we want oil paintings. Alex: have you got an opinion on
> this one?
> >
> > On Bande Mataram, don’t italicise it. The markup would be:
> >
> > “<span epub:type="se:name.music.song" xml:lang="bn-Lath">Bande
> Mataram</
> > span>”
> >
> > including the curly quotes. Note bn-Latn, as it’s the latin
> orthography
> > for the Bengali word.
> >
> > On the texts, I’d guess we wouldn’t italicise them, as per https://

> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://

> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2>>. As the Bengali
> > words are in MW we can omit the italics, as they’re considered
> now part
> > of English (unless MW specifically says a language).
> >
> > (Side note, but I just noticed the transcription error omaments
> in the
> > endnotes, which presumably should be ornaments.)
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> >> On 14 May 2026, at 07:48, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com

> collection/ <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>

> >>         search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/
> <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> >>         search/364294>
> >>
> >>         On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30 robin
> wrote:
> >>
> >>             Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can wrap the
> >>             Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
> >>
> >>             <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
> >>
> >>             See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-

> <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single->
> >>             page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/
> manual/1.8.7/ <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/>

> >>             single-page#7.10.5.3>.
> >>
> >>             -Robin
> >>
> >>>             On 13 May 2026, at 13:33, Chelsea McGill

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >>>                 >
> >>>                 > If you're getting an error in the browser
> then your
> >>>                 XHTML is malformed. There is a missing closing tag,
> >>>                 mismatched nesting, or some other XHTML syntax
> level
> >>>                 error. The browser should give you a hint in its
> >>>                 error message.
> >>>                 >
> >>>                 > On 5/12/26 10:43 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>>                 >> Hi Robin, I have now done up to ch 5. But when I
> >>>                 open the file in browser I'm getting an error
> message
> >>>                 for Ch 5. Could you please check and let me
> know what
> >>>                 to change? Thanks
> >>>                 >> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 8:16 pm Robin Whittleton,
> >>>                 <ro...@reala.net

> <mailto:ro...@reala.net><mailto:ro...@reala.net

> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>>> wrote:
> >>>                 >> Leaving aside that you need one more </
> section> at
> >>>                 the end in both
> >>>                 >> chapters, that looks good!
> >>>                 >> (Thanks Weijia, I missed your original
> comment but
> >>>                 this approach
> >>>                 >> makes more sense.)
> >>>                 >> -Robin
> >>>                 >>> On 12 May 2026, at 16:25, Chelsea McGill
> >>>                 <bkwr...@gmail.com <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com>

> >>>                 >>> <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com

> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
> >>>                 >>>
> >>>                 >>> Reading through the book, this isn’t the
> >>>                 >>> most obvious structure for a first
> >>>                 >>> production. But let’s see what we can do.
> >>>                 >>>
> >>>                 >>> The book is structured into twelve
> >>>                 >>> chapters, each with multiple subchapters.
> >>>                 >>> The subchapters aren’t numbered
> >>>                 >>> sequentially themselves, but some have a
> >>>                 >>> character attached, and the number of the
> >>>                 >>> subchapter specifically for that
> >>>                 >>> character. If they don’t have a character
> >>>                 >>> name then it’s assumed that it’s a follow-
> >>>                 >>> on from the previous character.
> >>>                 >>>
> >>>                 >>> So, I’d say that we want to split this
> >>>                 >>> into 12 chapters. You‘ve done this ✅
> >>>                 >>>
> >>>                 >>> The main chapter headings should be just
> >>>                 >>> roman numerals. This is the default for
> >>>                 >>> all SE productions, see the manual of
> >>>                 >>> style:https://standardebooks.org/ <https://

> standardebooks.org/> <https://
> >>> standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> >>>                 >>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
> >>>                 >>>standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-> <http://

> <mailto:chelsea....@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>                 >>>>
> >>>                 >>>> Thank you for your help!
> >>>                 >>>>
> >>>                 >>>> I have decided to keep "Chapter One"
> >>>                 >>>> format as in the original, since Roman
> >>>                 >>>> numerals are already used in the text and
> >>>                 >>>> it would be confusing for the reader.
> >>>                 >>>>
> >>>                 >>>>
> >>>                 >>>> On Tue, 12 May, 2026, 12:27 am 'Alex
> >>>                 >>>> Cabal' via Standard Ebooks,
> >>>                 >>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com

> <mailto:standar...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> >>>                 >>>>
> >>>                 >>>> OK, Robin will manage this with Vince
> >>>                 >>>> reviewing.
> >>>                 >>>>
> >>>                 >>>> On 5/10/26 2:38 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>>                 >>>> > Hi,
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > I think this is the correct link -
> >>>                 >>>> please correct me if I'm wrong!
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> >https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/

> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>>                 >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> >>>                 >>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/
> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>

> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>

> >>>                 >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/> <https://

> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>>

> >>>                 >>>> > ebooks/7166 <https://
> >>>                 >>>>www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://

> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <http://

> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/7166>>
> >>>                 >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166

> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <https://
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/

> ebooks/7166>>>>
> >>>                 >>>> > Archive.org:https://
> >>>                 >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/

> details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/details/>

> >>>                 ><https://
> >>>                 >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/

> details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://archive.org/details/>>>

> >>>                 >>>> > homeandworld01unkngoog/
> >>>                 >>>> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/
> <https://archive.org/> <https://

> >>> archive.org/ <http://archive.org/>>

> >>>                 >>>> <https://archive.org/ <https://
> archive.org/> <https://archive.org/ <https://archive.org/>>>
> >>>                 >>>> > details/
> >>>                 >>>> homeandworld01unkngoog/page/V/mode/2up>
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Best,
> >>>                 >>>> > Chelsea
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > --
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> >>>                 >>>> CAPeSxYbbG3%2BzD7iFFnoTO5TG-sZ5-
> >>>                 >>>> SR60_QzaYqMNyvszxZoBQ%40mail.gmail.com
> <http://40mail.gmail.com>

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[Alex Cabal]

Names are never language, see
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.9.2

> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2> <https://
> > standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.2.11.2 <http://

> >>         Would this one work? https://www.metmuseum.org/art/
> collection/ <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>
> >>         search/364294 <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/

> collection/ <https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/>

> >>         search/364294>
> >>
> >>         On Wednesday, May 13, 2026 at 8:17:37 PM UTC+5:30
> robin wrote:
> >>
> >>             Note 22 is formatted correctly, yes. You can
> wrap the
> >>             Trans. blocks in cite elements. So something like:
> >>
> >>             <cite><abbr>Trans.</abbr></cite>
> >>
> >>             See https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/

> single- <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single->
> >>             page#7.10.5.3 <https://standardebooks.org/

> manual/1.8.7/ <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/>

> <https://standardebooks.org/> <https://
> >>> standardebooks.org/ <http://standardebooks.org/>>
> >>>                 >>> manual/1.8.7/single-page#8.1.1 <https://
> >>>                 >>>standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
> <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-> <http://

> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>
> >>>                 >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-
> >>>                 >>>> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/

> <https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/> <https://
> >>> github.com/chelseamcgill4/ <http://github.com/chelseamcgill4/>>

> >>>                 >>>> rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the->
> >>>                 >>>> > world_surendranath-tagore.git
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Chelsea
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>>                 >>>> 12:09:24 PM UTC+5:30 Emma Sweeney wrote:
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Can you send a link to your
> >>>                 >>>> repository?
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Emma
> >>>                 >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>>                 >>>> 2:14:37 AM UTC-4bkwr...@gmail.comwrote:
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Hi, I am following the
> >>>                 >>>> directions and got as far as se split-
> >>>                 >>>> > text . I ran it, but it
> >>>                 >>>> does not seem to have recognized the
> >>>                 >>>> > chapter breaks. What should
> >>>                 >>>> I do?
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Best,
> >>>                 >>>> > Chelsea
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > On Sunday, May 10, 2026 at
> >>>                 >>>> 8:02:18 AM UTC+5:30 Chelsea McGill wrote:
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > As recommended, I will
> >>>                 >>>> do this book.
> >>>                 >>>> >
> >>>                 >>>> > Project Gutenberg
> >>>                 >>>> text:https://www.gutenberg.org/

> <https://www.gutenberg.org/> <https://
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>

> >>>                 >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/> <https://

> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ <http://www.gutenberg.org/>>>

> >>>                 >>>> > ebooks/7166 <https://
> >>>                 >>>>www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://

> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <http://

> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/7166>>
> >>>                 >>>> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166

> <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166> <https://
> >>> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7166 <http://www.gutenberg.org/

> ebooks/7166>>>>
> >>>                 >>>> > Archive.org:https://
> >>>                 >>>>archive.org/details/ <http://

> archive.org/details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://
> archive.org/details/>

> >>>                 ><https://
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> archive.org/details/> <http://archive.org/details/ <http://

> archive.org/details/>>>
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> >>>                 >>>> page/V/mode/2up <https://archive.org/
> <https://archive.org/> <https://

> >>> archive.org/ <http://archive.org/>>

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[Vince]

That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the name might be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they are wrapped in a <span xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to assist screen readers with pronunciation,” which is what she is asking about. It goes on to say most don’t need it, but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”

So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for the “occasionally”?

[Alex Cabal]

No. The examples list place names which contain non-name words, even
though they're "names" of places. Those kinds of names can benefit from
language, but proper names of people, e.g. "Vince", are never language.

On 5/15/26 11:54 AM, Vince wrote:
> That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the name might
> be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they are wrapped in a <span
> xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to assist screen readers with

> pronunciation,” which is what she is asking about. It goes on to say /
> most/ don’t need it, but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”

>
> So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for the
> “occasionally”?
>
>> On May 15, 2026, at 8:33 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Names are never language, seehttps://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/

>> single-page#8.2.9.2 <https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-
>> page#8.2.9.2>

>>
>> On 5/15/26 4:26 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
>>> Hi, I have a question about screenreader compatibility. If I want to
>>> have Bengali names pronounced correctly (i.e., Nikhil, Sandip,
>>> Bimala, the main characters), should I wrap them in the following?
>>> <span xml:lang="bn-Latn">Nikhil</span>
>

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[Vince]

And, again, that is not what that section says. If that’s what you want it to say, then you should change it to say that, i.e. to specifically exclude people’s names. Right now it looks like it specifically includes them—“Most proper names of people … do not require this…”. Most readers are going to think that includes people’s names.

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, please see the formatting of the short letter in Ch. 4 in the Github commit. It is a very short note, so I wasn't sure exactly how to format it. 

Best, 

Chelsea

[Robin Whittleton]

The epub:type="z3998:sender" should be on the paragraph itself, and you want signature semantics as well:

<blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter">

<p>An urgent matter&#x2060;&#x2014;&#x2060;touching the Cause.</p>

<footer>

<p epub:type="z3998:sender z3998:signature">Sandip.</p>

</footer>

</blockquote>

You’re also missing styles for letters. Have a look at https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2

Also, while I was looking through your commit history, I noticed it’s a little bit piecemeal. For example, you’re making spelling modernization commits, but you don’t seem to have run the modernize-spelling command yet, and you only seem to be working on the first five chapters at this point? We also have at least one commit that makes editorial changes without being tagged as [Editorial].

Another thing is that some of your commits don’t have descriptive messages. For example, you’ve have three recent ones that just say “Update ch 4”, but not explain what’s being updated or why. The commit history should be readable to someone interested in the production process, and should tell the story of how the book was put together.

For your first few productions it’s really important that you follow the step-by-step process as closely as possible. This makes it easier on you, and much easier to review afterwards. I don’t want to put you off because this looks like an important work for Standard Ebooks to have. But some of these commits are going to have to be rebased anyway to fix stuff, so it might be easier and cleaner to start over with your new knowledge of the production process?

-Robin

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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

I have read the description of what kind of commit to make, but I guess I misunderstood. I thought it was a way to save your work- is that not the case? I was going through and proofreading the text as necessary and tried to do a new commit for each editorial change. 

You want me to start over from scratch?

Chelsea

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[Alex Cabal]

Git commits (and any VCS commit) are not a way to save your work in
progress, rather they are denote single cohesive units of work so that
people in the future can understand the steps you took and what you did.
Therefore, in SE, and in any software project, commits should be clean
units of complete and digestible work with clear messages. (That doesn't
mean they have to be *long* messages, just clear. In our work a few
words or a sentence is usually enough.)

If you just want to save your work in progress, look at branches or the
git stash. There are countless tutorials online.

On 5/16/26 7:08 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>

> I have read the description of what kind of commit to make, but I guess
> I misunderstood. I thought it was a way to save your work- is that not
> the case? I was going through and proofreading the text as necessary and
> tried to do a new commit for each editorial change.
>
>
> You want me to start over from scratch?
>
> Chelsea
>
> On Sat, 16 May, 2026, 2:25 pm Robin Whittleton, <ro...@reala.net

> <mailto:ro...@reala.net>> wrote:
>
> The epub:type="z3998:sender" should be on the paragraph itself, and
> you want signature semantics as well:
>
> <blockquote epub:type="z3998:letter">
> <p>An urgent matter&#x2060;&#x2014;&#x2060;touching the Cause.</p>
> <footer>
> <p epub:type="z3998:sender z3998:signature">Sandip.</p>
> </footer>
> </blockquote>
>
> You’re also missing styles for letters. Have a look at https://

> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2 <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/single-page#7.7.4.2>

>
> Also, while I was looking through your commit history, I noticed
> it’s a little bit piecemeal. For example, you’re making spelling
> modernization commits, but you don’t seem to have run the modernize-
> spelling command yet, and you only seem to be working on the first
> five chapters at this point? We also have at least one commit that
> makes editorial changes without being tagged as [Editorial].
>
> Another thing is that some of your commits don’t have descriptive
> messages. For example, you’ve have three recent ones that just say
> “Update ch 4”, but not explain what’s being updated or why. The
> commit history should be readable to someone interested in the
> production process, and should tell the story of how the book was
> put together.
>
> For your first few productions it’s really important that you follow
> the step-by-step process as closely as possible. This makes it
> easier on you, and much easier to review afterwards. I don’t want to
> put you off because this looks like an important work for Standard
> Ebooks to have. But some of these commits are going to have to be
> rebased anyway to fix stuff, so it might be easier and cleaner to
> start over with your new knowledge of the production process?
>
> -Robin
>
>> On 16 May 2026, at 09:32, Chelsea McGill <bkwr...@gmail.com

>> <mailto:bkwr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, please see the formatting of the short letter in Ch. 4 in the
>> Github commit. It is a very short note, so I wasn't sure exactly
>> how to format it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chelsea
>>
>> On Saturday, May 16, 2026 at 2:08:02 AM UTC+5:30 Vince wrote:
>>
>> And, again, that is not what that section says. If that’s what

>> you /want/ it to say, then you should change it to say that,
>> i.e. to specifically /exclude/ people’s names. Right now it
>> looks like it specifically /includes/ them—“Most proper names
>> of /people … /do not require this…”. Most readers are going to

>> think that includes people’s names.
>>
>>> On May 15, 2026, at 3:20 PM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard Ebooks
>>> <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No. The examples list place names which contain non-name
>>> words, even though they're "names" of places. Those kinds of
>>> names can benefit from language, but proper names of people,
>>> e.g. "Vince", are never language.
>>>
>>> On 5/15/26 11:54 AM, Vince wrote:
>>>> That’s not what that section says. It says, "If words in the
>>>> name might be mispronounced in English pronunciation, they
>>>> are wrapped in a <span xml:lang="LANGUAGE"> element to
>>>> assist screen readers with pronunciation,” which is what she
>>>> is asking about. It goes on to say / most/ don’t need it,
>>>> but some occasionally do. Neither of those is “never.”
>>>> So her question is essentially, do her examples qualify for
>>>> the “occasionally”?
>>>>> On May 15, 2026, at 8:33 AM, 'Alex Cabal' via Standard
>>>>> Ebooks <standar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Names are never language, seehttps://standardebooks.org/

>>>>> manual/1.8.7/ <http://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.7/>
>>>>> single-page#8.2.9.2 <https://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> manual/1.8.7/single- <https://standardebooks.org/
>>>>> manual/1.8.7/single-> page#8.2.9.2>

>>>>>
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[Chelsea McGill]

Hi all, the new repository is https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/rabindranath-tagore_the-home-and-the-world_surendranath-tagore2

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OK, I've updated your project with the new repo.

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Thanks, and apologies. It’s never fun to start over, but I think you’ll get to a better place quicker.

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[Vince]

Yes, and it’s much easier now than when the reviewer says it needs to be done. :)

[Chelsea McGill]

Hi, 

I am going through and formatting all the poetry fragments in the work. I had a question about the CSS. 

Since these are fragments and part of a novel, I am wrapping it in <blockquote> and z3998:verse. 

The provided CSS codes all use z3998:poem, such as this one: 

[epub|type~="z3998:poem"] p > span + br{ display: none; }
Should I add this CSS to the CSS Core file? And when I do so, should I change the z3998:poem to z3998:verse?

Best, 

Chelsea