On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:34:24 -0600, stunnel bear <
s...@be.ar> wrote:
>On 9/20/2016 11:08 AM, Ben Renick wrote:
>> On 9/20/2016 9:42 AM, stunnel bear wrote:
>>> On 9/20/2016 10:04 AM, Ben Renick wrote:
>>>> [followups vandalism by deplorable cocksucker repaired]
>>>>
>>>> On 9/20/2016 8:40 AM, stunnel bear wrote:
>>>>> On 9/20/2016 9:23 AM, Ben Renick wrote:
>>>>>> Clinton is wrong about nearly everything,
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus she's running the most corrupt international money laundering scam
>>>>> in the history of the world...
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>>
>>> So you have to learn, OK:
>>>
>>>
http://nypost.com/2015/04/23/understanding-the-influence-peddling-of-clinton-inc/
>>>
>>
>> Influence peddling, you dumb cunt, not money laundering.
>
>Ekshually...BOTH!
>
>
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/the_clinton_foundation_as_a_moneylaundering_scheme.html
>
>
>When you put together all the revelations about the Clinton Foundation
>and its affiliates that have cascaded our way (and continue to arrive),
>one explanation makes sense. It was a money-laundering scheme designed
>to obtain and camouflage foreign money paid to the Clintons to curry
>favor, including favorable treatment by Hillary Clinton’s State Department.
>
>Sean David of The Federalist makes the case:
>
>The scheme works like this: collect millions of dollars in foreign
>money, dump it into a foreign charity, pretend that the law prohibits
>you from ever disclosing the identities of those foreign donors to the
>foreign charity, then have the foreign charity bundle all the cash and
>send it to the Clinton Foundation. Then, when the time comes–whether it
>be a Clinton Foundation conference or a lavish Clinton Foundation trip
>overseas–make sure those individuals get some me-time with the Clintons.
>
>As The Federalist detailed earlier this week, the Clinton Foundation
>spun off the bulk of its charitable medical activities back in 2010. By
>2013, the main Clinton Foundation entity — the Bill, Hillary, and
>Chelsea Clinton Foundation — housed only a handful of charitable
>initiatives, the largest of which existed solely to serve the Clintons,
>via their conference series and the Clinton presidential library, rather
>than truly charitable causes. In 2013, for example, the Clinton
>Foundation spent less than 10 percent of its budget on charitable grants.
>
>The foreign-to-domestic laundering scheme satisfies a number of key
>Clinton objectives. First, it gave Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
>total plausible deniability about the millions in foreign cash that were
>being funneled into her family’s non-profit coffers. She wasn’t on the
>board of CGEPartnership, and wasn’t even named to the board of the
>Clinton Foundation until 2013, so how could she have known about this?
>Second, it gave Hillary’s allies the ability to claim that wealthy
>foreign individuals were not sending cash to the Clinton Foundation.
>
>How? Because they were sending cash to the Canadian CGEPartnership. And
>while Bill Clinton’s name is obviously in the organization’s name, he
>never actually served on its board while Hillary was Secretary of State.
>Instead, Clinton retained control of the organization by placing Bruce
>Lindsey on CGEPartnership’s board. Lindsey, a long-time Clinton
>confidant and adviser, currently serves as the chairman of the board of
>the Clinton Foundation. He was also the Clinton Foundation’s CEO for
>over a decade.
>
>If you look holistically at the entire scheme’s setup, at the massive
>flow of foreign cash, at the refusal to disclose donors, at the secret
>(and now destroyed) private e-mail servers, at the blatantly bogus
>excuses, at the falsified tax returns, everything about it suddenly
>makes a lot more sense.
>
> From soup to nuts, the entire operation was constructed in order to
>provide a facade of plausible deniability for Hillary Clinton.
>
>If the standard to be applied to understanding all of this is evidence
>sufficient to convict in court, then, thanks in no small part to the
>destruction of evidence, it might be (or might not be, considering the
>criminal conviction of Bob McDonell) difficult to close the case. But
>if the standard is one of whom the American voters will honor with our
>highest office, then the facts are persuasive.
>
>>>
>>>>>> and nothing so much as her
>>>>>> belief that government is the solution to every problem, especially
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> imaginary problems that fuel the irrational frenzy of Democrats.
>>>>>
>>>>> True dat.
>>>>>
>>>>>> However, the one thing she got right is just what a shitty, deplorable
>>>>>> person one has to be actually to support Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh?
>>>>>
>>>>> So supporting someone who wants to return jobs to US is "deplorable?
>>>>
>>>> Stop it.
>>>
>>> FUCK YOU!
>>
>> No, fuck *YOU*, spammy.
>
>Oh tRudy:
>
>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/jonathan$20ball$20$2B$20rudy$20canoza/alt.politics.usa.republican/wnbFYp6xQlE/1YTX4KZ1i2IJ
>
>
>>>> Trump isn't going to do one fucking thing to "return jobs to
>>>> US", and you know it.
>>>
>>> Now you eat some more hard truths:
>>>
>>>
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/an-america-first-energy-plan
>>
>> Bullshit - every last word of it.
>
>You hate reality Jonathan, and I know why!
>A Trump Administration will develop an America First energy plan. Here
>is how this plan will make America Wealthy Again:
>
>American energy dominance will be declared a strategic economic and
>foreign policy goal of the United States.
>America has 1.5 times as much oil as the combined proven resources of
>all OPEC countries; we have more Natural Gas than Russia, Iran, Qatar
>and Saudi Arabia Combined; we have three times more coal than Russia.
>Our total untapped oil and gas reserves on federal lands equal an
>estimated $50 trillion.
>We will become, and stay, totally independent of any need to import
>energy from the OPEC cartel or any nations hostile to our interests.
>At the same time, we will work with our Gulf allies to develop a
>positive energy relationship as part of our anti-terrorism strategy.
>We will use the revenues from energy production to rebuild our roads,
>schools, bridges and public infrastructure. Cheaper energy will also
>boost American agriculture.
>We will get the bureaucracy out of the way of innovation, so we can
>pursue all forms of energy. This includes renewable energies and the
>technologies of the future. It includes nuclear, wind and solar energy –
>but not to the exclusion of other energy. The government should not pick
>winners and losers. Instead, it should remove obstacles to exploration.
>Any market has ups and downs, but lifting these draconian barriers will
>ensure that we are no longer at the mercy of global markets.
>
>A Trump Administration will focus on real environmental challenges, not
>phony ones:
>
>We will reject Hillary Clinton’s poverty-expansion agenda that enriches
>her friends and makes everyone else poor.
>We’ll solve real environmental problems in our communities like the need
>for clean and safe drinking water. President Obama actually tried to cut
>the funding for our drinking water infrastructure – even as he pushed to
>increase funding for his EPA bureaucrats.
>American workers will be the ones building this new infrastructure.
>
>Here is my 100-day action plan:
>
>We’re going to rescind all the job-destroying Obama executive actions
>including the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the U.S. rule.
>We’re going to save the coal industry and other industries threatened by
>Hillary Clinton’s extremist agenda.
>I’m going to ask Trans Canada to renew its permit application for the
>Keystone Pipeline.
>We’re going to lift moratoriums on energy production in federal areas
>We’re going to revoke policies that impose unwarranted restrictions on
>new drilling technologies. These technologies create millions of jobs
>with a smaller footprint than ever before.
>We’re going to cancel the Paris Climate Agreement and stop all payments
>of U.S. tax dollars to U.N. global warming programs.
>Any regulation that is outdated, unnecessary, bad for workers, or
>contrary to the national interest will be scrapped. We will also
>eliminate duplication, provide regulatory certainty, and trust local
>officials and local residents.
>Any future regulation will go through a simple test: is this regulation
>good for the American worker? If it doesn’t pass this test, the rule
>will not be approved.
>Policy decisions will be public and transparent. They won’t be made on
>Hillary’s private email account.
>
>We’re going to do all this while taking proper regard for rational
>environmental concerns. We are going to conserve our beautiful natural
>habitats, reserves and resources.
>
>In a Trump Administration, political activists with extreme agendas will
>no longer write the rules. Instead, we will work with conservationists
>whose only agenda is protecting nature.
>
> From an environmental standpoint, my priorities are very simple: clean
>air and clean water.
>
>My America First energy plan will do for the American People what
>Hillary Clinton will never do: create real jobs and real wage growth.
>
>According to the Institute for Energy Research, lifting the restrictions
>on American energy will create a flood of new jobs:
>
>Almost a $700 billion increase in annual economic output over the next
>30 years.
>More than a $30 billion increase in annual wages over the next 7 years.
>Over the next four decades, more than $20 trillion in additional
>economic activity and $6 trillion in new tax revenue.
>
>The oil and natural gas industry supports 10 million high-paying
>Americans jobs and can create another 400,000 new jobs per year. This
>exploration will also create a resurgence in American manufacturing --
>dramatically reducing both our trade deficit and our budget deficit.
>
>Compare this future to Hillary Clinton’s Venezuela-style politics of
>poverty.
>
>If you think about it, not one idea Hillary Clinton has will actually
>create a single net job or create a single new dollar to put in workers’
>pockets.
>
>In fact, every idea Hillary has will make jobs disappear.
>
>Hillary Clinton’s agenda is job destruction. My agenda is job creation.
>
>
>>>> Supporting a filthy vile bigot and misogynist and Putin dick-sucker is
>>>> deplorable, yes.
>>>
>>> I do not support YOU
>>
>> Right - you support a vile bigot and misogynist and Putin dick-sucker
>> named Donald Trump.
>
>Silly old babble from a 70 year old quasi-senile former property appraiser:
>
>Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball is one of the biggest Usenet trolls of all
>times. He's a
>guy with a huge inferiority complex. At 155 pounds and 70 years old,
>he's also one of the biggest littlest bully-cowards in the newsgroups.
>He's a anarchist purist-Libertarian who believes government serves no
>purpose. All that know him know this: Rudy Canoza
>has quite a long list of alias names -- and forged posts, illegal alien
>from
>Argentina, arrested for stalking, stealing ladies lingerie, stalking radio
>stations, Rudy is a glutton for attention like Sarah Palin.
>Hey Rudy, go stalk her. See what happens when her militia hoodsters skin
>you
>alive and use you as chili sauce on their next moose burrito,
>
>Following is
>an (incomplete) list of bogus names:
>Jonathan Balll
>R W Emerson
>Citizen
>Benfez
>Wilson Woods
>Radical Moderate
>Bingo
>Edward
>George
>Bill
>Fred
>Mystery Poster
>Merlin the dog
>Bob the dog
>sil @
onairos.com
>elvira
>Dieter
>"Dieter d.Schmidt
>prickerbush
>Abner Hale
>Roger Whitaker
>Fucktard
>Apoo
>Ted Bell
>notgen @
yahoo.com
>Jay Santos
>mortons.steakho
>Rudy Canoza
>Trappist
>sb29
>Leif Erikson
>S. Maizlich
>SlipperySlope
>Eden
>Sylvia Stevens
>dh@
>chico chupacabra
>
>newest nym: Will
>----
>Wilson Woods has infected this group with at least 3 different nyms. His
>real name is Jonathan Ball of 2030 Jefferson Drive Pasadena CA91104. You
>want proof that he's a racist?
>
>Jonathan Ball
>
>Stupid little wog; go back where you came
>from. You don't belong in a civilized place.
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/msg/cabaf41717694bf5
>
>You lose. So sorry, little wog. You go now, little wog, chop chop;
>make much study, come back, six seven month, yes, sit exam, yes, maybe
>you finish schoolee. Hee hee hee!
>
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/d15bda57bae2ae15
>
>Wilson Woods
>
>Whatever, GregGeorge, you greasy little wog. Go back to your
>village (if the Yanks haven't bulldozed it yet...)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/dd1b540bda0ce11b
>
>Rudy Canoza
>
>>>>>> I can see someone
>>>>>> supporting Trump as a #NeverClinton alternative, but no sane and
>>>>>> decent
>>>>>> person can support Trump for what Trump believes or says.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh?
>>>>>
>>>>> So a strong maternity leave policy is a bad thing?
>>>>
>>>> Fuck off.
>>>
>>> Yeah
>>
>> Yeah.
>
>Pfft!
>
>
>>>> Trump doesn't advocate that, and no real conservative would.
>>>
>>> Ooopsie, wrong again:
>>>
>>>
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/295608-trump-to-call-for-six-weeks-paid-maternity-leave
>>>
>>
>> It's not a conservative position, spammy.
>
>Boo fucking hoo!
>
>YOU do not get to define "conservative", yRudy.
>
>> And Trump doesn't really
>> advocate it. He's lying.
>
>Prove it.
>
>Use facts.
>
>
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/15/trumps-maternity-leave-proposal-smart/
>
>Paid maternity leave is a change that is coming, whether conservatives
>want it or not. A YouGov survey last year found that 69 percent of
>Americans believed employers should be required to offer women paid
>leave after the birth of a child, against only 19 percent who were
>opposed. An AP-GfK poll earlier in 2015 found a similar result, with 67
>percent in favor and 13 percent opposed.
>
>Maternity Leave, Republican-Style
>Trump’s paid maternity leave proposal works through the existing system
>of state unemployment insurance that has been in place since the New
>Deal. In its embrace of federalism, this is already more conservative
>than many proposals from the Left (existing unemployment insurance is
>subject to federal oversight but administered by the states).
>
>>>> Trump is neither a Republican nor a conservative. This is beyond
>>> dispute.
>>>
>>> You are a complete moron
>>
>> Nope. I'm 100% right about all of this.
>
>Nope impossible, Jonathan.
>
>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who does support Trump for what Trump believes and says, and
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the kind of person Trump is, is simply an asshole.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm an asshole not to want the US to import embedded muzzie fighters
>>>>> along with the flood of Syrians?
>>>>
>>>> No, you're just an asshole across the board. All ardent Trump
>>>> supporters are.
>>>
>>> And you are a class-labeling insignificant fascist lib.
>>
>> No, spammy.
>
>Yes, Ye of many socks:
>
>Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball is one of the biggest Usenet trolls of all
>times. He's a
>guy with a huge inferiority complex. At 155 pounds and 70 years old,
>he's also one of the biggest littlest bully-cowards in the newsgroups.
>He's a anarchist purist-Libertarian who believes government serves no
>purpose. All that know him know this: Rudy Canoza
>has quite a long list of alias names -- and forged posts, illegal alien
>from
>Argentina, arrested for stalking, stealing ladies lingerie, stalking radio
>stations, Rudy is a glutton for attention like Sarah Palin.
>Hey Rudy, go stalk her. See what happens when her militia hoodsters skin
>you
>alive and use you as chili sauce on their next moose burrito,
>
>Following is
>an (incomplete) list of bogus names:
>Jonathan Balll
>R W Emerson
>Citizen
>Benfez
>Wilson Woods
>Radical Moderate
>Bingo
>Edward
>George
>Bill
>Fred
>Mystery Poster
>Merlin the dog
>Bob the dog
>sil @
onairos.com
>elvira
>Dieter
>"Dieter d.Schmidt
>prickerbush
>Abner Hale
>Roger Whitaker
>Fucktard
>Apoo
>Ted Bell
>notgen @
yahoo.com
>Jay Santos
>mortons.steakho
>Rudy Canoza
>Trappist
>sb29
>Leif Erikson
>S. Maizlich
>SlipperySlope
>Eden
>Sylvia Stevens
>dh@
>chico chupacabra
>
>newest nym: Will
>----
>Wilson Woods has infected this group with at least 3 different nyms. His
>real name is Jonathan Ball of 2030 Jefferson Drive Pasadena CA91104. You
>want proof that he's a racist?
>
>Jonathan Ball
>
>Stupid little wog; go back where you came
>from. You don't belong in a civilized place.
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/msg/cabaf41717694bf5
>
>You lose. So sorry, little wog. You go now, little wog, chop chop;
>make much study, come back, six seven month, yes, sit exam, yes, maybe
>you finish schoolee. Hee hee hee!
>
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/d15bda57bae2ae15
>
>Wilson Woods
>
>Whatever, GregGeorge, you greasy little wog. Go back to your
>village (if the Yanks haven't bulldozed it yet...)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/dd1b540bda0ce11b
>
>Rudy Canoza
>
>>>> Go ahead and vote for Trump because you feel that Clinton would be worse
>>>> in the long term for the US. I think she very likely would be.
>>>
>>> Then we agree!
>>
>> We do not agree on Trump being a good candidate,
>
>
>Far better than the crook Shillary.
>
>Knows where Aleppo is.
>
>Isn't chained to a bulldozer on the rez...
>
>LOL!
>
>
>> a true Republican, or a
>> conservative. He isn't any of those.
>
>YOUR definition of "true" is REJECTED!
>
>> He's a shitbag demagogue who
>> gives assholes like you in the basket of deplorables a hard-on.
>
>Rage on little old man, rage on.
>
>>>> But don't try to sell us that Trump will be good for the US, because
>>>> he will
>>>> not be.
>>>
>>> Prove it!
>>
>> Trump already has. By voicing your lust for him, so do you.
>
>Insane and fact-free speculation.
>
>>>
>>>> Plus, he gives voice to assholes like you, and that's bad all
>>>> by itself. In terms of political influence, assholes like you should be
>>>> muzzled but good.
>>>
>>> There we go, a traditional lefty censor.
>>
>> No.
>
>Yes.
>
>You just promoted censorship.
>
>> I want you to say what you want, and no one will hear you.
>
>That's not at all what you said, fascist censor.
>
>> Some people really don't have any intellectual or moral standard to
>> deserve being heard. You're one.
>Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball is one of the biggest Usenet trolls of all
>times. He's a
>guy with a huge inferiority complex. At 155 pounds and 70 years old,
>he's also one of the biggest littlest bully-cowards in the newsgroups.
>He's a anarchist purist-Libertarian who believes government serves no
>purpose. All that know him know this: Rudy Canoza
>has quite a long list of alias names -- and forged posts, illegal alien
>from
>Argentina, arrested for stalking, stealing ladies lingerie, stalking radio
>stations, Rudy is a glutton for attention like Sarah Palin.
>Hey Rudy, go stalk her. See what happens when her militia hoodsters skin
>you
>alive and use you as chili sauce on their next moose burrito,
>
>Following is
>an (incomplete) list of bogus names:
>Jonathan Balll
>R W Emerson
>Citizen
>Benfez
>Wilson Woods
>Radical Moderate
>Bingo
>Edward
>George
>Bill
>Fred
>Mystery Poster
>Merlin the dog
>Bob the dog
>sil @
onairos.com
>elvira
>Dieter
>"Dieter d.Schmidt
>prickerbush
>Abner Hale
>Roger Whitaker
>Fucktard
>Apoo
>Ted Bell
>notgen @
yahoo.com
>Jay Santos
>mortons.steakho
>Rudy Canoza
>Trappist
>sb29
>Leif Erikson
>S. Maizlich
>SlipperySlope
>Eden
>Sylvia Stevens
>dh@
>chico chupacabra
>
>newest nym: Will
>----
>Wilson Woods has infected this group with at least 3 different nyms. His
>real name is Jonathan Ball of 2030 Jefferson Drive Pasadena CA91104. You
>want proof that he's a racist?
>
>Jonathan Ball
>
>Stupid little wog; go back where you came
>from. You don't belong in a civilized place.
>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian/msg/cabaf41717694bf5
>
>You lose. So sorry, little wog. You go now, little wog, chop chop;
>make much study, come back, six seven month, yes, sit exam, yes, maybe
>you finish schoolee. Hee hee hee!
>
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/d15bda57bae2ae15
>
>Wilson Woods
>
>Whatever, GregGeorge, you greasy little wog. Go back to your
>village (if the Yanks haven't bulldozed it yet...)
>
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.animals/msg/dd1b540bda0ce11b
>
>Rudy Canoza
>
>
Anyone interested in a pool on how long Widdle Wuddey Canoli has left
to live?