RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

[Jim M.]

I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing so I'm starting this new thread.

Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard requests for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along? Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to coordinate by e-mail. Let me know your preference.

Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around Marin; trip to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at Grant's house (just kidding on that one).


happy trails,
jim m
wc ca

P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks

[Tom Virgil]

7/19

Grant's house terminus (also just kidding, but... Would it not be great to give him a tribute for this movement [assuming it is wanted]).

But, then, let's not be hasty.

Treebeard:

“You must understand, young Hobbit, it takes a long time to say anything in Old Entish. And we never say anything unless it is worth taking a long time to say.” 

― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Two Towers

Seriously I am willing to help.  Perhaps we should start thinking of where folks will stay and gathering points.

Take care,

Tom

[hsmitham]

Jim, 

Great may I suggest http://doodle.com/?locale=en for the voting of date. Easy to set up and keeps everything simple to tally.

~Hugh "Hoping for the 12th" Smitham

On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

[Shawn Granton]

On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

An African or European swallow? 

-Shawn

[Joe Bunik]

Brooks
=- Joe

[Manuel Acosta]

I down for whatever. I wouldn't mine leading a ride from either location or even both. Diablo or China Camp.  

-Manny Acosta 

[justin...@gmail.com]

Let's see:
My plan is to be in transit moving to Oakland from Philly around Mid July to Mid August so I guess this is perf........typical.

;)
-J

[Jim M.]

Here's the poll to decide the date: http://doodle.com/f9aztytidfibbtam

Very close between the 12th and 26th. We may just have to hold 2 events.

jim m
wc ca

[Hugh Smitham]

If we do it on the 12th it really helps me on Summer planning...noticed a lot of folks are available for multiple dates? Of course I'm not the center of the universe so I will go with the flow.

~Hugh

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[Philip Williamson]

It looks like 4 people can't make the 26th, and 5 people can't make the 12th.

I just updated my vote to reflect my availability for all three dates. 

Philip

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[EastBayGuy]

Jim I am here to Help with the organization if needed. Keep me posted.

Dustin G 

Walnut Creek Ca

[Jim Bronson]

7/12 as I will be visiting from Texas and available that day.

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[Jim Bronson]

Oops never mind, 7=! August.

I will be in the bay area in August.  Well maybe another time.

[Joe Bernard]

I'm available for all of them and live nearby, but of course I'll panic at the last minute and not show up. I'm not good at this social stuff. Y'all have fun! :)

 

Joe "I'll be there in a minute..no worries" Bernard

Vallejo, CA.

[Robert F. Harrison]

I was the person, or one of them anyway, pushing for the 19th as I'd be flying back to Hawaii from Boise (where I'll be on the 12th). I couldn't afford to fly back to the mainland but diverting the Bay Area was doable. But....

...as it turns out a friend is getting married on the 19th so I won't be attending anyway. Sigh. I tried to talk him into changing his wedding date but...well...not so much. :-0

Aloha,

Bob

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[Dan McNamara]

I am good for any of the 3 dates. I lice close to China Camp so can help out with that end. Or anything else that needs doing.

Dan

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Jim M. <math...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Tony]

Jim,

A big thank you for organizing this. For folks not familiar with Walnut Creek here is a quote from a recent article in the local paper about the newly opened Bentley and Maserati of Walnut Creek, "There was pent-up demand, and the arrow pointed directly to the San Francisco East Bay. And Walnut Creek has that luxury-brand cachet."

For a more real-world ad see this one in a local magazine:
http://www.journalgraphicsdigitalpublications.com/epubs/WALNUT%20CREEK%20MAGAZINE/WalnutCreekMagazineJanFeb2014/#?page=14

Tony

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:28:26 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

[Montclair BobbyB]

Maybe we simply need to declare July as "Riv Month... Come ride when you can"... Are the Bay Area folks ready to host something EVERY weekend in July?????

People can I GIT a "Woo Hoo!!"...

[Jim M.]

The poll is closed and the date will be July 12th. If you look at the poll, apparently Betty Foy herself cast the last vote and will be making a celebrity appearance.

I am very sorry about the date not working for everyone. I would like to say that there will always be someone from the list who is willing to take you on a ride if you come to RBW country.

Keep your eyes open for further updates.

Happy trails,
jim m
wc, ca

[Philip Williamson]

If one were, say, working on a poster for the event, what info would need to appear? 

What:

"Riv Rally West?"

"Rivendell Bicycle Works 20th Anniversary Jamboree?"

"RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot?"

RBW Jamboree West (I do like the word "Jamboree")

Rivendell Bike Celebration and Campout 

Where:

China Camp State Park

China Camp, CA

China Camp, San Rafael, CA

When:

July 12, 2014

Weekend of July 12

July 12-13, 2014

July 12 Weekend

Second Weekend in July

More Info?

All Are Welcome

Ride Camp Gawk

Sleep out, Ride bikes, Meet people 

You know, just in case,

Philip

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[Philip Williamson]

Never mind: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12064611616/

Philip
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[Tony]

Hey! That's nice.

Tony

[Hugh Smitham]

What I said on Flickr loudly!

~Hugh

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[Cyclofiend Jim]

Nuthin' but net, sir.

Nice work.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

[cyclotourist]

Mmmmmm, bacon... 

Cheers,
David

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[Tony DeFilippo]

Philip - You have some excellent drawing skills!  Great graphic design... II wonder if anyone could hook up a special run of bandanna's with that graphic...?

Tony

[Jim M.]

Looks great! I'll buy one -- t-shirt, poster, bandana, or whatever.

On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:38:07 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:

[dougP]

Well done!  And I too will sign up for whatever you choose to print it on; T-shirt, poster, etc. 

dougP

On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:38:07 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:

[Philip Williamson]

Aw, shucks! Thanks for the enthusiasm, it made my afternoon. Honestly, I didn't think through the project any further than "make cool graphic." I'll put some effort into making tangible things (if only I still had that screen press...).   

Is there a printer in the house? 

Philip 

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[Philip Williamson]

A bit more work on the poster/graphic in the last two days. 

Black Block version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082803183/

Bright Color version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082799903/ 

I approached my friend to print us some posters (http://peternevins.bigcartel.com/), but quantity/price/interest are all TBD. I think the black block with a bright color on the bicycle would make a nice poster.

Someone on the list recommended a semi-local screenprinter, and I pinged them about tee-shirts, as well. I want to use water-soluble inks for the soft hand and low eco impact. 

Philip

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[Mike Williams]

Absolutely wonderful Philip!  Thanks so much for sharing

Sent from my iPhone

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[Montclair BobbyB]

I DIG!!!  

[Ryan]

I really like the black block version...has a bit of an  Aubrey Beardsley vibe. Also reminiscent of the golden age of psychedelia.

 

Anyway...T-shirts or posters; I'd order either. You are talented, man

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks! 

I think I have a printing plan hooked up.

I'm definitely printing the black block one; tee shirts, bandannas and posters.

Philip

www.biketinker.com

[Curtis McKenzie]

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[Jim M.]

Here's a work-in-progress itinerary for Rivfest:
2 nights China Camp/1 night on Mt Diablo -- I will reserve campgrounds and send a link for some non-camping lodging. China Camp should be pleasant. Diablo could be 90+ temperatures, so I'm thinking camp high on the mountain for the view and breeze.

I'm thinking group dinners all 3 nights (I've got at least 2 volunteer cooks so far), but bring your own breakfast/beer/bourbon/Oban.

Rides of varying "gruel factor" led by Manny and some other as-yet-to-be-identified volunteers (I'm hoping our listmaster can lead a ride; Marin's his turf.).

I'll also point out that not only is this Riv's 20th, but it is also a decade-marking anniversary for Grant. Maybe one ride will go by Grant's house and we can serenade him.

So how about some input, por favor. Volunteers welcome too.

happy winter
jim m

[Hugh Smitham]

Sounds really good Jim. I'll be there. I've already requested that time off so it's on the books now and for real! Manny! Here I come, invasion time.

~Hugh

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[Dan McNamara]

It sounds good to me. I live in San Rafael and am happy to help facilitate from the Marin side. 

Dan

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[Manuel Acosta]

Gruelling rides? Let's say spirited. Romantic. Humbling. Stupid.

I got a good one planned for China camp that involves something dumb.

Diablo? I got one equally as stupid. Carrying your own gear adds to the complexity and nuttiness. Should be a blast.

[Cyclofiend Jim]

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:18:47 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

Rides of varying "gruel factor" led by Manny and some other as-yet-to-be-identified volunteers (I'm hoping our listmaster can lead a ride; Marin's his turf.).

Ha! Love to be involved! Of course!

- J

[Jim M.]

I have confirmation of the reservation at the new China Camp group campsite (40 person limit) for July 12th & 13th. And if you don't want to rough it, here are some other options:

Here is a Google search for motels near China Camp, the Marin listers may be able to add some info on these:
https://www.google.com/maps?t=m&sll=37.9977496,-122.4796994&sspn=0.051947,0.0878947&q=hotel+China+Camp+State+Park&output=classic&dg=opt

Here is the VRBO list for San Rafael:
http://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/usa/california/san-francisco-bay-ar/san-rafael
I like VRBO, especially when you can split the cost with someone else.

Some AirBnB possibilities:
https://www.airbnb.com/s/San-Rafael--CA--United-States?checkin=07%2F12%2F2014&checkout=07%2F14%2F2014&source=bb

Manny said he has a crazy-a** ride planned. I'm sure it will be a good one. Don't let Manny scare you but we'll have other options for riding. Plus we'll have a friendly symposium focused on the following debates:

1. A calorie is a calorie is a calorie / Paleo rules
2. Helmets are superfluous / No they're not
3. And the final word on which chain lube is the absolute bestest

[Deacon Patrick]

I posit that "superfluous" in discussion item 2 is erroneous. Most arguments I've heard and buy for not wearing a helmet have nothing to do with it being "unnecessary because it is more than sufficient." I don't wear a helmet and I can't agree that helmets are superfluous. Further, I propose the phrase "paltry for the task of promoting safety" take the place of superfluous.  Just to jump in to the controversy early since I won't be there. Sardonic grin.

Who knows? Maybe God will surprise me with healing and I'll be there with bells and laundry scents and cologne and flashing lights and ... Grin.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Cyclofiend Jim]

A little "Local's Feedback":

Here is a Google search for motels near China Camp, the Marin listers may be able to add some info on these:

https://www.google.com/maps?t=m&sll=37.9977496,-122.4796994&sspn=0.051947,0.0878947&q=hotel+China+Camp+State+Park&output=classic&dg=opt

Goodness gracious, do NOT stay in the North Bay Inn San Rafael.  I am not kidding.  Kind of a bad area and very close to the freeway. Surrounded by some of the busiest and narrowest set of surface streets in the county, if you plan on riding to the festivities. The rest of the hotels listed aren't too bad, though the one out near the San Rafael-Richmond Bridge is a little tough to ride from as well.

 

Here is the VRBO list for San Rafael:
http://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/usa/california/san-francisco-bay-ar/san-rafael
I like VRBO, especially when you can split the cost with someone else.

Some AirBnB possibilities:
https://www.airbnb.com/s/San-Rafael--CA--United-States?checkin=07%2F12%2F2014&checkout=07%2F14%2F2014&source=bb

 

Indeed - VRBO and airBNB are good options.  There is San Rafael near downtown (zip code 94901) which is the other side of a hill (or the ridge if you climb up from the Dominican area).  But, there is also the "Peacock Gap" area, which borders the east end of China Camp SP, and Terra Linda / Santa Venetia areas, which are in the same valley as North San Pedro Road, the access to the park. Also, Lucas Valley and Marinwood are close/rideable as well. South Novato (Ignacio, Bel Marin Keys and that area) is a little further away, but certainly not out of the question for riding. 

 

If anyone has a specific address or neighborhood they are wondering about, I'd be happy to give feedback regarding access and such.  email me directly on those types of questions.  - Jim / cyclo...@gmail.com

[dougP]

What, no symposium topic on TIRES?  How can this have been missed?

dougP

[James Warren]

Or "Which Atlantis Lugset Is The Best"

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[Philip Williamson]

I am going to make another (final) pass on the poster / tee shirt artwork and open up preorders, then create the goods.
I want to make the name of the event stand out more, and probably bump up the bike size. Any other feedback is welcome. Really.

So the final name is...
RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition?
RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot 2014?
Rivendell Owners Bunch Jamboree West 2014?
California Rivendell Jamboree totally unofficial RBW 20th Anniversary Celebration Gathering and Entmoot?

Pre-revision artwork is here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/12082803183/

Philip
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[Joe Bernard]

Yellow-ish butterscotch Saluki, or orange-ish butterscotch Saluki? Discuss!

Joe "indecisive" Bernard

Vallejo, CA.

[Edwin W]

Design looks amazing. Sadly I won't be there, but I would still order a T shirt.
I'd drop the "entmoot," but I'm not designing it or going!

Edwin (I'll be riding hot, literally, in Nashville)

[Shawn Granton]

Think bigger! This could very well be the year that the whole Coke vs. Pepsi debate gets settled.

No one actually looks at email signatures anymore, but here goes nothing:

http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/
http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland
http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ 

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[Reid]

And my vote is to be sure to include "Entmoot." This is Rivendell bikes, after all and a little fantasy distance from daily reality is appropriate. I probably will even be there to wear a t-shirt at the actual event. My wife even says, "You really should go!"

 

Reid

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I would certainly be predisposed to purchase a shirt that said "Entmoot"

I mean, this one if finally wearing out a bit...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8637421717/in/photostream

- J

[BSWP]

The Entmoot is set for July 12th, yes? Any updates or other news? I'll be in town and look forward to meeting and riding that day.

- Andrew, Berkeley

[Hugh Smitham]

Andrew,

Yes it's on for the 12th. 

At this point I only know that there is a PDX contingent planning on coming down. How many I have no idea? I know Manny plans on being around  And I plan on being there.

It'd be nice to see some of  the local's planning/itinerary. I've heard various ideas tossed out but nothing firm. There was a ride around Tam and then on another day a ride up Diablo with a stop by RivHQ? Or perhaps we'll keep it simple and a bunch of Rivendell's descend on China Camp and we wing it. 

Personally, I'd love to camp at Sam Taylor or something similar. Or do the Shell Ridge camp. I assume if there were lot's of us that Shell Ridge wouldn't work. Anyway, what ever we do I'm sure will be a blast.

~Hugh

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The Entmoot is set for July 12th, yes? Any updates or other news? I'll be in town and look forward to meeting and riding that day.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[Patrick Moore]

Will y'all (that's "all y'all") please be sure to take many photos?

Patrick "signed up in 1994, first custom ordered Nov, 1994" Moore

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[Hugh Smitham]

I suggest you haul something with two wheels out yonder and take some too. 

Would love to have you join in this party! But of course not all can make it and I'm positive there will be ton's of picture's taken slowing broadband across the left coast.

~Hugh

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[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for the invite, but with my schedule, the demands on my attention and time (91 year old mother, just-about-13-year-old daughter), and my balance of payments deficit, it is highly unlikely that I'll be able to make the trip. I would, though, had I sufficient $ and time, you can believe that.

7/12 will be in the midst of our annual summer family gathering, too -- though I wouldn't put it past me to skip and go west ...

Patrick "self employment is a drag, except when you think of working for someone else" Moore

[Philip Williamson]

Thirteen year old child takes care of the 91 year old mom. Problem solved.
One solid day of driving on each end, and four hours of work per non-driving day. Gas would cost about $300? 2200 miles, 30 mpg, $4/gallon. My ballpark SWAG was twice, that though... Air travel looks like $360 roundtrip, so a better deal overall. You can use my 60cm Quickbeam with your own pedals on one of the days.

Such a jerk,
Philip
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[Hugh Smitham]

Way to go Mr. Bike Tinker. That's a bitchen deal. Ball in your lap Mr. Moore.

~Hugh

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[Patrick Moore]

13 year old ran away from home after 91 year old grandmother beat her with walker. 60 cm QB has too-long tt, and the gearing is off.

Patrick "any excuse will do" Moore

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[Rusty Click]

Hello All,

I had originally planned on flying out for the "Gathering", but have recently been booked to 'bike escort' some visitors from California, on a Pittsburgh to DC ride on the GAP/C&O canal trail.  Sorry to miss this, and will be waiting for reports and pics to start hitting the site.

Best Wishes to all who make the event.

Rusty

Pittsburgh, PA

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:37:18 AM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote:

I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing so I'm starting this new thread.

Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard requests for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along? Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to coordinate by e-mail. Let me know your preference.

Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around Marin; trip to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at Grant's house (just kidding on that one).


happy trails,
jim m
wc ca

P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks

[Robert F. Harrison]

I'm going to miss as well, won't be as much fun as you'll be having though. I have to be in Boise sans cycle.

I plan on the canal/GAP ride next year so lots of pics and comments would be helpful.

Aloha, Bob

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[Reid]

Last year's official Riv S24O up Mt. Diablo, loaded with camping gear, just about did me in and this year I'm not as much "in shape" as last year. Soooo, I'm thinking CalTrain up to San Fran, short ride to the ferry landing, ferry boat to Larkspur, then a short ride to China Camp. If a trip to Riv WHQ and Mt Diablo is on the agenda, I'd wimp out once again: short ride to Larkspur, ferry to SF, BART to Walnut Creek. Then I could maybe make it up the mountain again.

 

Reid (the lazy boy)

 

 

[Joe Bernard]

I'm not within cycling distance of China Camp, and my bike-transporting capability is down to a little Fiat with a Dahon folder, but I might swing by on that anyway. You'll know me by a funny little bike with Rolf racey-type wheels, and a monstrous-long carbon seatpost topped with a Brooks saddle and Acorn bag. Hey, I bought the Brooks from Riv! :)

Joe Bernard

Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:23:43 PM UTC-7, Reid wrote:

[Richard Holden]

Love to attend as a new Riv bike. On my calendar. Can help also.
Richard

[Abcyclehank]

Anyone willing to help a Michigander out by lending a 68cm-64cm bike for the weekend. Decided to ride my motorcycle(BMW '95 R1100GS packed with 66cm Bike Friday, hammock, and basic survival gear minus hatchet (yet likely bringing a new one home).
The original plan was to fly out with a bike and the wife who has been promising to show me Northern California for the past 23 years. She just canceled her portion of the trip, but I am committed to migrate regardless because that is a major perk of being a poorly paid public school teacher. I have 8 weeks for adventure between June and August.
My fallback might be swinging through Washington state to possibly collect a 68cm Atlantis to join my fleet back in the Wolverine State.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson
Contact me off list if you might be able to help me out and to discuss compensation package.
hanki...@me.com
(616)928-4226

[Jim M.]

As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 nights, July 12 & 13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the backcountry for Monday.

Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be forthcoming.

For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more than that, we should get another campsite or two.

I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that too.

cheers
jim

[Hugh Smitham]

Jim,

Dude thanks so much for doing the reservations...I plan on being down/up for the 12th & 13th. I was planning on catching the Coast Starlight Monday morning. I could if the Riv fever has me leave Tuesday morning?? Anyway I'm down for two nights at CC. I will of course reimburse for my portion. 

Anyone have a space for me potentially Sunday night around Oakland Jack London Square so I can get up early to pack my bike and catch the train?

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Dan McNamara]

Hugh,

I work pretty close to the Emeryville station so should be able to get you to the train if you can't stay close to Jack London Square. 

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[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks Dan. 

Full disclosure. I need to be there no later than say 7 am. I hope that's not an inconvenience? The train leaves @ 8:50 am and I know how stuff happens when you try to jam time. I'll need to purchase a box  disassemble/pack the Atlantis.

~Hugh

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[Richard Holden]

Count me in for two nights. Depending on the food situation, I can cook a little. 

Richard

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[James Warren]

Jim,
Thank you so much for the planning. I plan on being there all three nights.

-Jim W.

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As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 nights, July 12 & 13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the backcountry for Monday.

Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be forthcoming.

For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more than that, we should get another campsite or two.

I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that too.

cheers
jim

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[DS]

I am in for Saturday night and any group ride on Sunday.

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks for taking care of the planning of this!

Is anyone showing up on Friday? 

Philip

www.biketinker.com

[dougP]

Jim:

Put me down for all 3 nights.  This event will be memorable, & I look forward to meeting a lot of the NorCal crew in person. 

dougP

On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

[dougP]

Hugh:

The Amtrak packing process is super user friendly.  The boxes are HUGE.  Remove the pedals.  Turn the bars 90 degrees.  Roll bike into box.  No wheel removal or other futzing.  Nitto drops with bar end shifters fit but I may have loosened the clamp to allow rotation.  Check out a box at Union Station.  You'll be amazed.  I think you do need to check luggage well ahead of train arrival & like you say you don't want to be jammed for time. 

dougP

[Hugh Smitham]

Doug,

I was just about to email a pathlesspedaled. Do you know the length dimension of the Amtrak bike box? I now have the Albastache bars on the Atlantis and I kept the cables somewhat tight to the bars. I can rotate them but removal would be near impossible. I'd like to measure the bike length with the bars turned and check against the box dimension. Otherwise I'd need to re-wrap the bars!

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Hugh Smitham]

Got it:

Amtrak Bike Box Dimensions: 69"x 41" X 8.5" 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Peter Morgano]

How does that work, is the box considered checked luggage? If not is there an extra charge? Thanks.

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[Hugh Smitham]

Peter,

The box is $15 and yes it's checked luggage. You can only do checked luggage from certain (large) stations. It is recommended to call the station and ask if they have boxes & tape. The pathlesspedaled recommends bringing a black Sharpe to write on the box & tape. When I looked into traveling with my bike from the Bay Area it's all buses out of the city that run you to the Coast Starlight et al. 

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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[Hugh Smitham]

No extra charge as far as I can tell.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

[Shawn Granton]

There is a $10 fee to check a boxed bike, besides the cost of the box. So box plus fee is $25.
Shawn

[Hugh Smitham]

Ah good to know.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/

[Anne Paulson]

Be aware that train stations don't necessarily have boxes. And even if they say they have boxes the day before, they don't necessarily have boxes because they might have used them all up. And if your bike is not boxed, they (probably) won't take it.

-- Anne Paulson

It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.

[stonehog]

Jim - count me in.  I'll likely be there all three nights.  I'll be driving the SEA -> PDX -> SFO ferry pickup.  I have 2 riders (Smitty and Hugh) south, but could probably fit a 4th.  Only 1 other (Smitty) returning north at this point, so if anyone else needs a ride, let me know.

Brian Hanson

Seattle, WA

On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

[stonehog]

Correction - Smitty and I will be leaving Monday.  Sign us up for China Camp only.  

Brian Hanson

Seattle, WA

[Anne Paulson]

I'm in for the first two nights. I'd love to help cook.

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[Addisonwilhite]

Often the stations will have used boxes that they'll let you use for free. 

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[Manuel Acosta]

So what I'm hearing is that theres two nights at China Camp (Saturday and Sunday) then one night at Diablo?

If thats the plan here's some rides I can suggest.

I was planning on leading a ride from the Ferry building to china camp via that Saturday morning.

Proposed route here.

http://tinyurl.com/kfh3edw

Sunday Morning China camp ramble

Do a Mtbing loop. hang out maybe go bike and fish somewhere. Sleep. 

Alternative option For sunday after riding and fishing ( Take the ferry back the the City, bart to Walnut creek shell ride stealth camp)

Monday Morning: ride to top'o diablo campground and camp.Ride dirt Tuesday morning.

Just a thought of rides to expect.

Saturday seems doable. Maybe.

Sunday Riding can definitely happen.

Monday Riding is typical of the Tradition that is camping at Mt.Diablo

Let me know hows this fares with everyone.

I'm pretty sure we can just wing it too

Manny Acosta

[Richard Holden]

Wow. Pretty impressive ride. I haven’t done that many miles in a while, much less with a loaded bike. If I do it, I would cut the fishing and go right to bed. Ha!

Let me see if I can put some miles on and actually do it, albeit slowly.

Richard

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[Richard Holden]

Wow. Pretty impressive ride. I haven’t done that many miles in a while, much less with a loaded bike. If I do it, I would cut the fishing and go right to bed. Ha!

Let me see if I can put some miles on and actually do it, albeit slowly.

Richard

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[David Stein]

Let me start my training regimen ;)

Alternative suggestion would be to take a more direct route there Saturday, and do a version of that ride on Sunday...unloaded. But if that does happen on Saturday, I'm in...I know the route so if I get behind I'll find my way. But like Richard said, may trade fishing/riding for sleep the next day.

[Philip Williamson]

Tee shirt preorder: http://etsy.me/1xM6K5o

If you're coming to the Jamboree, use coupon "PICKUP" to remove the shipping charge. 

PM me if anything goes wrong with your order - it's been a year since I've used Etsy. 

I'm going to print these on unbleached white shirts in soft-hand (not plastisol) inks. 

Choose your size, S thru XXL, and your bike color: Orange, Blue, or Green. 

The shirts will be delivered at the Jamboree, or mailed out the week after, for non-attendees. 

(First time ever uploading photos to the Group)

Thanks!

Philip

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On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing so I'm starting this new thread.

Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard requests for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along? Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to coordinate by e-mail. Let me know your preference.

Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around Marin; trip to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at Grant's house (just kidding on that one).


happy trails,
jim m
wc ca

P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks

[cyclotourist]

Philip, wow!

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

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[cyclotourist]

Is anyone getting a spot(s) on Friday the 11th? And if so, would you have room for two more + a car??? Curtis and I are trying to figure out a way to drive up Friday a.m. He would be staying through, but I'd be doing a quick turn around and leaving Sat. noonish (every party has a pooper)...

Any other suggestions for two vagabonditos for the Friday night?

[Hugh Smitham]

I'm hitching a ride from PDX on the 11th and I presume we'd make camp @ CC on the 11th? My ride may have other plans or choose to wing it .Maybe make a reservation if it's not to late.

~Hugh

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[cyclotourist]

11th is all full...

[Hugh Smitham]

K...