Flash San Diego Riv Ride Saturday the 9th.

[hsmitham]

Hi SoCal Riv Riders especially San Diegans,

Flash ride! If you don't have anything planned then here is an opportunity to see some beautiful North County San Diego terrain.

When: Saturday November 9th 11:00 am

Where: Meet up at Del Mar Starbucks corner of 15th & Camino Del Mar.

Ride: A mixed terrain route up Los Penasquitos Canyon Preserve through the Bucolic Rancho Santa Fe and ending in Solana Beach, CA by the Pacific and Pizza Port for no other than liquid carbohydrates and pizza pie!

Approximately 26 miles not too many climbs more rolling, but if you complain we can always add a few 15% grades to make you happy.

Come one come all! If your visiting San Diego then join in on the fun.

I will have a route slips for everyone.

~Hugh

[cyclotourist]

Ohhhh, maybe...

On 11/5/13, hsmitham <hughs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi SoCal Riv Riders especially San Diegans,
>
> Flash ride! If you don't have anything planned then here is an opportunity
> to see some beautiful North County San Diego terrain.
>

> When: *Saturday November 9th* *11:00 am*
>
> Where: Meet up at *Del Mar Starbucks corner of 15th & Camino Del Mar*.

>
> Ride: A mixed terrain route up Los Penasquitos Canyon Preserve through the
> Bucolic Rancho Santa Fe and ending in Solana Beach, CA by the Pacific and
> Pizza Port for no other than liquid carbohydrates and pizza pie!
>
> Approximately 26 miles not too many climbs more rolling, but if you
> complain we can always add a few 15% grades to make you happy.
>

> Come one come all! *If your visiting San Diego then join in on the fun*.

>
> I will have a route slips for everyone.
>
> ~Hugh
>
>

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Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

[Mike Schiller]

I'll be there!  The more climbing the better I say.  and beer too.

~mike

[Hugh Smitham]

Well for you we'll have you climb Black Mountain and take a picture :-)

Best,

~Hugh

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[Esteban]

Drat, I'll be coming back from SF on Saturday...

[Hugh Smitham]

There will be others :-)

Best,

~Hugh

[Tom Virgil]

This circumnavigates my stomping ground, so I am in for some or all of it.  Would not want to miss you guys

Are you thinking 15th and Camino Del Mar, South to Carmel Valley Road, East to Sorrento Valley Road, South to Sorrento Valley Blvd, East to Penasquitos?  The initial stretch on Sorrento Valley Road is bikes and pedestrians only with the lagoon to the West side.  There is a Performance Bicycle Store in the midst of Sorrento Valley in case anyone needs bike stuff in a pinch.

I like the ride West through bucolic RSF, but have an alternative for those that like dirt.  On the way West, Black Mountain Road and Carmel Valley Road West on Carmel Valley Road to Rancho Santa Fe Farms Road, North on Rancho Santa Fe Farms Road to the Gonzales Canyon entrance, West through Gonzales Canyon to Old El Camino Real.

Map of Gonzales Canyon

A Reader Article with some history about Gonzales.

Best regards,

Tom

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:32:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

[Hugh Smitham]

Hey Tom,

I'm into it!

I haven't read the reader article but it looks good to me. It will reduce the mileage some but making this a 70% dirt ride appeals to me. I think I've ridden the western part of this canyon at some point. Thanks for the awesome suggestion and glad your going to make it!

Best,

~Hugh

[Curtis McKenzie]

Looking forward to a great ride.  Weather should be great.

Curtis

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[Tom Virgil]

We might want to rethink Gonzales based on how many fender people are there.  The West end has a lot of sand, sticks, and leaves so bucolic RSF would be better for fender people.   I am guessing that you are thinking of something like Black Mountain to Del Sur on Carmel Valley Road, Carmel Valley Road to San Dieguito on Del Sur, and San Dieguito out to El Camino Real.  Either route or any of the many other alternatives will make for a grand ride.

- Tom

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:32:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

[Hugh Smitham]

Looking forward to it as well. And yes weather looks to be about perfect.

Best,

~Hugh

[Hugh Smitham]

Tom you had me on the Gonzales Canyon. I don't mind sand as I have no problem walking if necessary. Plus my fenders break away in an emergency. Lets do it.

Best,

~Hugh

[Tom Virgil]

Hugh,

I have the SKS Secu-Clips for break-away.  Provided everyone is confident, let's go for it.

Depending on how badly everyone wants to get back to the Pizza Port and beer, there are many, many side trips and diversions off Carmel Valley Road and Gonzales.  A lot of fun.

- Tom

[Hugh Smitham]

Outstanding!

Best,

~Hugh

[cyclotourist]

Can't make it, sorry. Will be riding solo and close to home! :)

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

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[Tom Virgil]

Ratz.  just learned I have a work related lunch meeting on Sat.

But...

Wild horses are not going to keep me away from this ride.  My campus at work is above Penasquitos and there are several ways I can ride and intercept from there.  The wheel turns as the wheel turns, but here is a rough approximation of the ride in three parts.

Flash Ride Part 1
Flash Ride Part 2
Flash Ride Part 3

I am out of the meeting at 1:00

It will take you approximately 1 hour 38 minutes to ride part 1 at a constant 10 mph.  Adding approximately 1 hour more for coffee at Starbucks, contemplation of the larger scheme of things at the waterfall in Penasquitos, and rest breaks, that would put you through the intersection of Del Sur Blvd and Carmel Valley Road at about 1:40.  That is the start of part 2.   I will intercept you there for part 2.  I can get there a little early and can wait for quite some time.

Hugh, I sent you a contact number via gmail in case we need to synchronize.

Oh, part 3 gives some suggestions for the way back to Pizza Port using some of the new parts of the Coast to Crest Trail.  More dirt.

- Tom


On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:32:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

[Mike Schiller]

All those dirt sections will be new to me. Looking forward to the ride, sans fenders. 

I was looking at riding the Coaster down,but the weekend schedule is very limited. I'll have to drive & park.

~mike

[Curtis McKenzie]

Just installed fenders. So I will ride with fenders. 

[Tom Virgil]

Got it Curtis :-)  I will be riding fenders on the Sam.  Since my somewhat inconsiderate employer decided to book me for lunch tomorrow with a certain South Korean manufacturer of cell phones and ace me out of part 1 of the ride, I left work early today and reconed the west end of Gonzales on my 29er to get an update on trail conditions as they are now.  It is always changing base on rain and horse impact.

Reference is made to the Gonzales Canyon Map.

I rode all the way West to the SeaBreeze Stables.  It led to a somewhat unfortunate conversation between myself and the equestrians.  I was diplomatic.  The equestrians, not so much.  We are not getting through there unless we get chased by nasty people on horses who don't like bicycles.  The people don't like us, the horses are OK.  I can charm a horse.  Too bad since SeaBreeze seems to have co-opted some public ROW that runs through their stables under the high power tension lines.  I backtracked to the lagoon trail (blue on the map) and climbed to Las Brisas.  Not too hard for me in terms of energy, but ruts, sand, and rockbed took about everything a 19 lb carbon fiber dual suspension Specialized Epic can do.  I would not feel comfortable on the fendered Sam. I backtracked and took the power line service road (red on the map) back up to to Dog Park in the Torrey Highlands Park.  It is a well groomed fire road, but a bit steep.  Worst case, a twenty minute walk up the Service Road with your bicycle.  Better, some parts are rideable.  I rode it all the way on the Epic.  

This is Hugh's deal and God bless him for proposing it.  I''ll defer to him and the group consensus as we go.

Looking forward to seeing you folks tomorrow.

-Tom

On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:54:43 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:

Just installed fenders. So I will ride with fenders. 

On Friday, November 8, 2013, Mike Schiller wrote:

All those dirt sections will be new to me. Looking forward to the ride, sans fenders. 

I was looking at riding the Coaster down,but the weekend schedule is very limited. I'll have to drive & park.

~mike

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[Tom Virgil]

I had work commitments at noon and some "honey do's" before sunset, but I managed to do the middle segment with Hugh, Curtis and Mike.  Connecting at mid ride went off without a hitch.  Hugh called me from Black Mountain Road and Carmel Mountain Road and 15 minutes later they were rolling into Santa Luz where I was waiting.

We biked the bikes, talked the talk, and shared gratitude with each other at the sheer joy of being able to do this kind of thing.  Thank you, Hugh, for coming up with the concept of a "Flash Ride" and being adaptable about it.  I'll go for it again.

My real camera was on the fritz due to low batteries (gotta watch for that in the future) so I only have a few iPhone shots at flickr.  Hugh and Curtis seem to be far more expert at this I am, so we will see.

In the last two images, Mike is walking, Curtis is riding.   Not shown, but Hugh rode a good part of a challenging trail.  As for my self, I pushed, pulled and crawled up it with a bike in portage, but it was well worth it.

This is only the second time I have been out with Rivsters, but I have to say I really enjoyed it.  These are some great guys to spend time with.

Now on to tomorrow:  the one pot Trangia meal.

Thank you, Hugh, Curtis, and Mike.

Tom

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:32:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

[Coconutbill]

Sure looks like a great ride, fellas.

Did the equestrians give you much trouble?

Sorry this one slipped away, but there'll be more. looking forward,

-Evan

 

 

 

[Tom Virgil]

It was good, Evan.  As Hugh says, "There will be more...".  Come on down to San Diego and I would be honored to ride with you.