Coffee Outside

[Kellie]

I"m gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks.

[Deacon Patrick]

For absolutely best quality without consideration for space, aeropress with the stove of your choice. However, I use a Helix coffee cone with a fabric filter, Ocean Air Cycles has them: http://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/helix-coffee-dripper. It tastes nearly as good and is ridiculously light and compact. Cleaning the filter is a bit of a pain, but I'm going to take two fabric filters next time and rotate them so one can dry and thus clean easier. I brew into a 20 oz. insulated Klean Kanteen (more double use). 

I generally do coffee only when bikepacking, so my Firebox and Klean Kanteen work great with minimal space and multiple uses. Photo of the water boiling here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16919782195/

With abandon,

Patrick

[Zack]

aeropress, trangia kettle and windscreen, an actual ceramic mug, porlex grinder.  

don't forget matches or a lighter!  

[Jim M.]

This is my favorite coffee maker: http://www.bialetti.com/www.bialetti.com/coffee/stovetop/moka-express-c-1_7_22.html

If I was doing a longer trip, I take something lighter, but for a coffee excursion it packs fine. 

jim m

wc ca

[Bill Lindsay]

A wee dram of whisky couldn't hurt

[velomann]

First step is to get out there. trial and error will teach what works for you.

I've used lots of stuff for Coffee Outside, biking, backpacking, car camping. My current rig is an alcohol-fueled popcan stove  (well, Guinness can actually...)  Snowpeak pot for boiling, and Snowpeak folding filter holder with Chemex paper filters. Coffee is usually Water Avenue, but we're so so spoiled with good beans here in PDX, so sometimes Extracto, or Coava, or Ristretto. Recently discovered Roseline coffee and their Colombia sun dried single estate beans may be my new favorite. Ground with the Porlex mini.

But I recently started using an Aeropress too, and admit it is an awesome machine and brews a splendid cup.

Sometimes I use a Snowpeak GigaPower stove when I'm feeling lazy - tiny and light and pumps out the BTUs. And sometimes I use the GSI collapsible silicon filter holder. 

On the subject of filters, Stumptown put a number to the test including different brands of paper (they like Hario) as well as the Able stainless cone and Aeropress filters (two different meshes) and posted the results on their blog. Makes for interesting coffee-geek reading.  http://stumptowncoffee.com/facts-coffee-filters/

Mike M

ay, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:

[Dan McNamara]

I have a few different setups. I like coffee gadgets. 

Two different stove setups:

Trangia Mini. Packs pretty small about 3"x6". 

Caldera Cone Keg. Packs into a 4"x8" cylinder.

The Caldera boils faster and is more fun as it uses an up-cycled Fosters can as the kettle. For grab and go the Trangia is better as you can pre-fill the burner. 

Grinders:

Porlex mini is the best. Small and performs well. 

Coffee makers:

Moka pot

Aeropress

Helix coffee dripper

Super cheap Tiamo 102 plastic dripper that I have 400 filters for and cost $8 all in. 

Depends on what I feel like carrying. I can grind coffee at home with the moka pot. Just add water and put in on the burner. 

Helix packs the smallest and is the coolest design. 

Aeropress can make the best cup but is a little more fussy. The Porlex mini does pack mostly inside it. 

Tiamo was super cheap and I don't really care if something happens to it. It does make a good drip cup. 

Mug:

Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen. Enameled steel. 

Lots of pictures of various setups on Flicker #coffeeoutside

Rob At Ocean Air Cycles is a good source of info. He sells the Helix dripper and the Caldera Cone. 

-Dan

On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Kellie <kellie.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

I"m gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home without. Add your photos as well. Thanks.

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[Zack]

the only wrong way to do coffee outside is not to do it :-)

[Surlyprof]

I'd heard good things about aeropress but haven't sprung for one myself.  Backpacking and camping, I've used this:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermos-34-Ounce-Insulated-Stainless-Steel-Gourmet/dp/B00004S1DB

These are a little on the larger size but make good coffee and keep it warm for a while.  They are durable so you load bags of coffee inside, find a place to strap it on and not worry about it knocking about.

John

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:

[Tony DeFilippo]

"don't forget matches or a lighter"

+1

And another endorsement for the helix dripper, porlex mini grinder and a good mug. A French press is more of a crowd pleaser if your serving up 2 or more customers though... Timing for multiple cups with one stove and one dripper can be tedious if you're cold and caffeine-starved.

Oh and you need a camera of course because no pictures means it didn't happen!

Happy brewing!

Tony

[Kellie]

^^^What I meant by pictures in my post was, pictures of all of you outside with your coffee. (-:

[Hudson Doerge]

My setup: aeropress, porlex mini mill, snow peak giga power auto, ti pot, double wall ti mug, ti spork, bandana to clean things, and a sea to summit packing cell everything tucks into perfectly.

Hudson in atx

[Anne Paulson]

Aeropress users: I have an aeropress, but when I use it according to
the directions, the coffee is way strong, much stronger than the
coffee I made with my Melitta filter. Is that just the way the coffee
is supposed to be, or should I use half the ground coffee they say?
The aeropress is a fussy procedure for coffee that is stronger than I
want.

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[Deacon Patrick]

I water it down after, unless I want an espresso-like experience. I get a full mug, including cream, from a single scoop of beans, though it only takes up a small portion of the mug when it's brewed.

With abandon,

Patrick

[Anne Paulson]

The directions call for 18 grams of coffee, which is TWO scoops of beans.

[Deacon Patrick]

I've never weighed it, I just use a single heaping scoop. Perhaps that's worth a try?

With abandon,

Patrick

[William deRosset]

Dear Anne,

It is coffee. Adjust to taste, either by watering it down directly or using less coffee per cup.

I ended up with 24g of coffee per 10oz cup, and run all the water through the grounds. I do find the Aeropress is neater than my french press (cleanup is very simple), and produces a mellower cup of coffee.

Best,

Will

William M. deRosset

Fort Collins, CO

[Shawn Granton]

For coffee outside, I don't have a "standard" setup, as I play around a lot with what I have. (Sometimes I bring the hand grinder, sometimes I grind at home.) But the device I pull out the most is my Esbit coffee maker, a unique little moka pot/percolator that makes a decent cup o' coffee. It always gets a comment, and so far I haven't run into anyone else with one!

-Shawn

[Kellie]

Thanks for the photo! will this coffee maker work over any type of stove?

[Shawn Granton]

Kellie-

No, it's designed to work with the Esbit stove that nests inside the pot when stored.

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[Deacon Patrick]

Here's the set on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Esbit-Stainless-Steel-Coffee-Tablets/dp/B002AQCLT0

With abandon,

Patrick

[Chris Lampe 2]

I love these coffee threads!  

I've got an old Mr. Coffee 4-cup drip machine, a French Press, a Moka pot, a Keurig and one of those Vietnamese single-cup coffee makers that sits on top of your cup.  I'm getting closer and closer to springing for an Aeropress because the curiosity is killing me!

[Patrick Moore]

I make my coffee at home and take it out into the field in a thermos -- actually, for cycling, I prefer tea a la Inde, which isn't the syrupy goop you get here but cheap black tea made very strong with a lot of milk and sugar. It is the most amazing energy drink.

But back to coffee: I like decent coffee, strong, and in large amounts -- breakfast for years has been 20+ oz of very strong coffee with lotsa milk or half 'n' half and sugar. I also am cheap. I've tried the stovetop so-called espresso makers, the press, Melita, and of course your garden variety drip machine, but I like my kitchen utensils small enough to fit easily into a cupboard.

Melita makes strong coffee in the #2 size, but all the #4s I've seen seem to make it weaker. The press makes decently strong coffee, but the flavor is less "clear". The stovetop maker is a pain to use.

I'm interested in the Aeropress, but wonder if it can make only 8 oz or so at once. That would be a deal-killer, since I'd need to brew 3 batches for breakfast.

Can anyone advise:

About quantity servings with the Aeropress;

The best method of getting a strong, clear, good-tasting brew with the most economical measure of beans.

Any other coffee making/buying/storing/appreciating advice?

Thanks.

[ted]

Krups moka brew. Works well, more compact than most self contained counter top machines. Not cheep, but not super expensive either. If you use it every day and amortize over years, the price per pot is probably quite reasonable.

[stonehog]

Ann - one heaping scoop is fine. Fill water close to top and stir for 10 seconds. Let your arm weight do the plunging - no need to push hard. Add water after to taste. Aeropress is an espresso maker, so it makes a strong cup if sipped straight. Still smoother than a machine. The biggest thing will be beans (please use fresh - within 7 days of roasting for best taste) and grinder. You want a consistent grind. If you find it tough to plunge, try courser grounds til you get it the way you like it. It generally takes me 20 seconds for a plunge, BTW.

All of this is pure Opinion based on years of daily use. I've worn out several presses at this point, but it's dark up here in the winter months.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
Daily Aeropress user since '08

[Mark Wilkins]

Anne:

I've been using the inverted method with my Aeropress for some time, and really like it.

http://stumptowncoffee.com/brew-guides/aeropress/

Uses one rounded scoop.

Mark

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[Chris Chen]

Yeah, I'd say that's about right.

[Justin August]

Friends don't let friends brew coffee without measuring mass of water, beans...

Get the Aeropress App for iOS for many great award winning recipes for your coffee. It's versatile and makes good coffee out of even the blandest beans.

Get a Coava Coffee disc to reduce the amount of waste generated via paper filters.

Get a small thermometer. Water temp should be around 202-204 F.

For doing pour over and the like I use 18gr coffee to 300gr water. Brews a nearly perfect cup each time in the v60 or similar pour over brewer.

Justin, obsessively brewing in Oakland, CA

[David Banzer]

I have a Trangia mini cookset that I use for coffee, helpful for making food outside as well. I've been using a colador in an immersion method, same thing as French Press, then pulling the strainer out. Cleanup is not as easy as an Aeropress, but few things are.
I'll be the voice of dissent on the Aeropress: compared to other methods (colador as mentioned, collapsible pourover filter) it's kinda bulky. Also, I feel that Aeropress is good for an espresso approximation, but the 'cleaner cup' leaves out a lot of flavors that a pourover or immersion method provides.
David
Chicago

[Pondero]

Kellie,

I don't have anything to add to the discussion and recommendations. Besides you've already seen my blog enough to know that most of my rides include coffee outside somewhere along the way.  However, since you didn't get a lot of photos from the gang, here's a recent one...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/16958383872/

Occasionally, my coffee kit includes a hammock.

Chris Johnson

Sanger, Texas

[Kellie]

Knew I could count on you for a picture! (-:

[Bill Lindsay]

Chris

Those stem shifters still working out for you?  They look the business. 

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 5:50:43 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:

[Braxton Colagross]

Aeropress recommends using one full scoop of coffee and filling about halfway for brewing. They claim that filling the press with water overextracts. Simply dilute to taste after brewing the recommended way. Try both and see if one tastes better to you. 

[Pondero]

Bill,

I'll put it this way, my birthday discount from Riv will be applied to a stem shifter pod for my Hilsen.  Seem to be just right for my quirks.  Love 'em.

Chris Johnson

Sanger, Texas

[shawn m.]

I also really like the inverted method in terms of the quality. It makes a GREAT half-cup of coffee. That's my only beef about the method, really. It treads a fine line between too fussy and just fussy enough, which is important first thing in the morning. Typically, I just double it: two scoops, twice as much much hot water, dilute the product somewhere in the 2:1 ballpark (slightly less, depending). In my protracted career of coffee snobbery my experience has been that quality coffee overcomes uneven methods; it's easy to make good coffee with good beans. One of the best cups of coffee in my life was cowboy coffee of Tanzania Peaberry near the headwaters of the Salmon River in the Sawtooth range of central Idaho before riding the Fisher Creek trail. Possibly the best day ever...

If method is your madness, though... I submit the following coffee nerdery for your consideration:

http://worldaeropresschampionship.com/recipes/

Shawn

"I'll have another cup of coffee!" - Groucho Marx, Duck Soup

[Liesl]

And here's an appropriate activity after the coffee...

[Chris Chen]

In any case, even the crappiest cup of coffee tastes great when you're outside in the morning.

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[Edwin W]

Chris,

My birthday recently came and went. No email. I called up to snag a Clem and found out the birthday email discount is gone like the wind.

As a protest, I'm giving up the whole birthday thing.

Edwin

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:09:21 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:

Bill,

I'll put it this way, my birthday discount from Riv will be applied to a stem shifter pod for my Hilsen.  Seem to be just right for my quirks.  Love 'em.

Chris Johnson

Sanger, Texas

as

[dougP]

"As a protest, I'm giving up the whole birthday thing."

Birthdays are highly over-rated as a reason to celebrate.  After the first 3 or 4 dozen, eh? who needs 'em?

dougP

[Bill]

@dougP. At my age I'll take all that I can get.

[Peter Adler]

Not sure where this info comes from. I just got my birthday email, which sez:

You are entitled to 10% off a single online purchase up to $300 on your birthday, or on any of the six days that follow it.

So if the birthday thing is no longer in force, somebody at RHQ needs to delete that script from their mail server.

I suppose the discount is subject to a little legal interpretation. I used mine last year to buy a Luxos U and some Obenauf's; they were out of the B&M dynamo Toplights and the Schmidt coax cables, or I would have bought them as well. My pre-discount total came to about $240, so I fell within the letter of the rule. But would a bike frame also fall under the letter of the rule? Since it's more than $300...plus, the phone v. website issue.

I'm just saying. It sounds like the birthday discount is still in effect; it just didn't apply to the purchase you were trying to make.

Paralegal disclaimer: I am not an attorney. I am not Rivendell Bike Works' attorney. I am not providing legal advice or counsel; I am just another Internet smart-aleck.

Peter Adler

riding like a blazing comet with that Luxos in

Berkeley, CA/USA

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

[sameness]

It's still in effect. I just used mine last week. I didn't try to buy a Clem.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 11:46:25 AM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote:

Not sure where this info comes from... (i)t sounds like the birthday discount is still in effect; it just didn't apply to the purchase you were trying to make.

[Peter Adler]

The key takeaways are that you have to be signed up for the mailing list, and you have to use the discount for an online purchase.

[Zach Duval]

Has anyone tried one of these: https://www.canadiano.co/?

Seems reasonably bikepackable and enviro-sound (avoiding disposable filters), but pricey...

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 9:41:28 AM UTC-6, Kellie wrote: