NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

[Michael]

Finally  a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.

Nitto-esque bottle cages at RBW on the cheap.

 

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wb7iris.htm

[PATRICK MOORE]

Those are my favorites.

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[Ron Mc]

Very nice cage.  Similar cages are the Nitto Racer and the V-O Moderniste.  Price is right on the King version - a fraction of the Nitto.  

[Brewster Fong]

On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:27:50 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:

Very nice cage.  Similar cages are the Nitto Racer and the V-O Moderniste.  Price is right on the King version - a fraction of the Nitto.  

Agree, I've been using the standard King cages for many, many years. At about $18 each, its a bargain. And, if you really *need* a ti cage, King makes those too, albeit at Nitto prices:

 http://www.kingcage.com/products-waterbottle-cages.html

Good Luck!

[PATRICK MOORE]

And, from my experience with Nittos and VOs, the Kings are much sturdier and hold bottles better.

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[Steve Palincsar]

On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 19:37 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> And, from my experience with Nittos and VOs, the Kings are much
> sturdier and hold bottles better.

Especially if you want to overload the cages with extremely large, heavy
stainless steel bottles. Also, the King Iris is by far the best cage
for the "third" position, underneath the down tube.

[Michael]

Actually, it isn't exactly "cheap".

You can get regular cages for like 7 bucks at LBS's.

 

But, if you want a wire cage that don't let the bottle fall out the side, then, comparitively speaking, except for Lyzene brand that has one like this, it is cheap.

 

 

[cyclotourist]

Hooray for Rivendell for carrying this great MUSA product. I've moved from Nitto to King Iris cages on all my bikes over the last few years and absolutely love them!

Cheers,
David

[Steve Palincsar]

On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 20:17 -0700, cyclotourist wrote:
> Hooray for Rivendell for carrying this great MUSA product. I've moved
> from Nitto to King Iris cages on all my bikes over the last few years
> and absolutely love them!
>

Great for third bottle, under the downtube use, but for me just about
impossible to get the bottle out while riding if used in either of the
two "normal" positions.

[PATRICK MOORE]

Practice, Steve, practice. What, do you expect everything to be easy?!

Seriously, I have no problem. But then, I'm very talented.

Patrick "Serious?" Moore

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com> wrote:

Great for third bottle, under the downtube use, but for me just about
impossible to get the bottle out while riding if used in either of the
two "normal" positions.

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[bobish]

Nothing wrong with treating that "under downtube" cage as storage for an extra water bottle which is then swapped with one of the more convenient empties at the next pit stop. The under downtube cage is also great for non-hydration use—such as first aid kit, etc. I usually use it for a multi-bike-swappable kit I've put together and store in one of these:

http://www.cagerocket.com/product_info.htm

If I'm going to need access to that kit, I'm off the bike anyway.

Perry

[Deacon Patrick]

Huh. My first aid kit is pine needle dust or fresh smoked pipe ash, spit, swiss army knife, and a bandana. Anything more serious than that and I need an ER anyway. Grin.

With abandon,

Patrick

[William]

With an excellent Toy Dolls accompaniment to the "how it's made" video.  Blast from the past for many of us children of the 80s

[Ryan]

I have those Ciussi Elite aluminun cages w the plastic buttons. I think I want something more grown-up (restrained and tasteful).

 

I never really warmed to the $50.00+ Nitto cages...  totally an exception, not the rule for Nitto. If Nitto ever made a complete group ,I'd beg,borrow or steal to have it.

 

But those Iris cages look smashing. I can see why you switched:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9325930580/in/pool-rivendell

 

See the heart in the photo?

[Ron Mc]

I'd already outfitted my bikes with V-O Moderniste, but the King cage is a good deal.  

Ryan, your bike is gorgeous - what is your saddle?  

[Donald Lee]

Is this King cage a good fit for the standard or insulated Klean Kanteen?

[Christopher Chen]

Yes, yes they are! http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9131448186/

The naming of the cage is interesting. The company is King Cage, or Andrews, and the cage is an Iris.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Donald Lee <m...@donaldlee.net> wrote:

Is this King cage a good fit for the standard or insulated Klean Kanteen?

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[Donald Lee]

Thanks Chris. I'll pick up an Iris next time I'm in Walnut Creek.

[cyclotourist]

Heart shaped cage.

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

[David Hays]

Also can hold a coffee thermos preferably with a little tape.

I do like the finish of the stainless. A just a little rough.

David

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71834221@N00/9412939186/in/set-72157633319840872

[Ryan]

Oh...sorry that's not mine...haven't posted mine...that is Cyclotourist's bike:) He often posts here and is the owner of a very lovely pair of blue rivendells..an A/R and a Road.

 

Mine is Harvest Gold...have been swapping some things out and the Ciussis..which do work...may be replaced by those swoopy Iris cages

 

I'm riding an MS150 tour in Manitoba  in late August and taking my Riv Road...and I'll try and post some pictures. Cheers!

 

Sorry for the confusion

[Lynne Fitz]

You buy the King cages when your VO cages break.  Like both of mine.  Although, if I could weld aluminum, or whatever it is you do, they could be repaired.

On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:08:56 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

[Patrick Moore]

I've used the Nitto butterfly cages, the VO similars as well as the VO retros, and the King Irises, and I've managed to break two Nittos and (IIRC) one VO but never a King, even with almost 30 oz double wall steel bottles (= long and heavy). The King's don't look as shiny but IMO they are the best out there regardless of value, and this is true even more given the price.

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[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/01/2013 01:58 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> I've used the Nitto butterfly cages, the VO similars as well as the VO
> retros, and the King Irises, and I've managed to break two Nittos and
> (IIRC) one VO but never a King, even with almost 30 oz double wall
> steel bottles (= long and heavy). The King's don't look as shiny but
> IMO they are the best out there regardless of value, and this is true
> even more given the price.

Those two aren't really comparable. The Nitto Butterfly isn't meant for
loads as heavy as those you used, and it isn't meant for under the
downtube use either; but it looks marvelous, holds a normal size and
weight bottle very well, and yet it's easy to remove and replace the
bottle. The King Iris, by contrast, is perfect for overloading and
under the downtube use; there's simply no way it can open from the
weight of a bottle. However, I found it damned near impossible to get
the bottle out from either the downtube [i.e., NOT under the downtube]
or seat tube positions with one hand with the bike moving.

The King Iris is a whole lot cheaper, too. You can buy two King
stainless cages (either the conventional style or the Iris) for less
than half of what one Nitto Butterfly costs these days.

[Patrick Moore]

Well, they are comparable for the use of heavy bottles, right? At any rate, I prefer a duller finish with worry free strength than shiny and cool with less strength.

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[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/01/2013 02:13 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> Well, they are comparable for the use of heavy bottles, right?

No. You should NOT put heavy bottles into the Nitto Butterfly, It's
totally unsuited. As you well know.

> At any rate, I prefer a duller finish with worry free strength than
> shiny and cool with less strength.

I like being able to get the bottles out while I am riding, and I
couldn't do that with the King Iris, and god knows I tried.

[Patrick Moore]

No, no, no: my point is that you CAN and even MUST compare them in regard of this use, in which case you will choose the Iris and not the Butterfly.

I've no problem getting bottles out of my 5 Iris cages -- better work on that forearm and grip strength.

Patrick Moore, who is being deliberately persnickety in not-quite-serious fashion.

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[Zack]

Iris cages are, in my experience, the best for carrying kleen kanteen insulated bottles.

[hsmitham]

Steve,

>I like being able to get the bottles out while I am riding, and I 
>couldn't do that with the King Iris, and god knows I tried. 

-more beer curls will help :-)

~Hugh

[Steve Palincsar]

That wouldn't help: you have to pull straight out to extract a bottle
from a King Iris. Curling, that is a curved lifting, will simply show
you how strong those cages are and how weak you are in comparison.
Seriously, like trying to extract something from the jaws of a bulldog.

[Patrick Moore]

I know I keep contradicting Steve, but it's all in good sport. Just this afternoon on my errand out and back, I deliberately tried pulling a standard 28 oz Rivendell bottle from an Iris and doing so at an upward angle; no problem for me, though I agree that the more flexible Butterfly and Retro cages make this even easier.

Steve: in case you ever want to use an Iris, you might try slightly spreading the sides.

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[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/01/2013 07:12 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> I know I keep contradicting Steve, but it's all in good sport. Just
> this afternoon on my errand out and back, I deliberately tried pulling
> a standard 28 oz Rivendell bottle from an Iris and doing so at an
> upward angle; no problem for me, though I agree that the more flexible
> Butterfly and Retro cages make this even easier.
>
> Steve: in case you ever want to use an Iris, you might try slightly
> spreading the sides.

I do use an Iris: under the downtube, where it is unmatched.

[Hugh Smitham]

Steve, 

Seriously I've been using the iris cages now for two months with kleen kanteens and admit they are a stiff pull, but in those two months I've become use to them. I have never attempted to pull the third one bottom of down tube  while riding as I believe you would need to have the flexibility of a circ du soleil performer. 

Perhaps you can hand bend them out a bit then mount them. 

I used the Velo-Orange retro cages and they held the Kleen Kanteens okay but on any rough terrain they rattled which was annoying.

Hugh

Sunland, Ca

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[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/01/2013 07:48 PM, Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Seriously I've been using the iris cages now for two months with kleen
> kanteens and admit they are a stiff pull, but in those two months I've
> become use to them. I have never attempted to pull the third one
> bottom of down tube while riding as I believe you would need to have
> the flexibility of a circ du soleil performer.

I hope nobody thought I was trying to get a bottle out of the
under-the-downtube cage while riding! No, I stole two Iris cages off
the downtubes of two bikes and temporarily replaced the standard
location cages that had broken on my Longstaff. Went for a ride and
discovered I simply couldn't get the bottles out unless I stopped and
used two hands to pull the bottles out.

>
> Perhaps you can hand bend them out a bit then mount them.

I didn't want to do that, because I had every intention of eventually
putting them back from where I'd cannibalized them, and you really don't
want a loose bottle between the down tube and the front wheel.