What do Rivendell Riders use for wheel security?

[Lungimsam]

Looking for something for me wheels so I only have to lock the frame at stops.

I know about Pitlock type skewers.

[blakcloud]

I use Pitlock on both wheels and seat post on my Sam and my wife's Betty. They are both keyed the same for convenience. I pair this up with a Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit mini to lock the frame. On rare occasions I might just use a Kryptonite mini, because it is a least half the weight of the Fahgettaboudit.

[Ryan Christbaum]

I second the pitlocks.  I bought three sets keyed alike and another for a friend in case he ever loses the keys.  The only wheel they didn't seem to work on was the rear of an Xtracycle, but that's long-gone.

-Ryan

[Will]

+1 for pitlocks. I use them for the wheels and seatpost on my Atlantis. They are lighter than skewers. So: no weight penalty.

I got a smallish Abus u-lock to fix the bike to racks. The system works well and is light. I've no use/functional issues.

Good price and service here: http://www.urbanbiketech.com/default.asp

Will

[Nick Worthington]

Also Pitlock - but be aware that you have to carry the special nut/key with you, if you think you'll need to change a flat.  Order extras.

Nick W.

[Bill Lindsay]

If any of you aftermarket skewer users want to unload any match sets of Shimano silver skewers let me know. XT, XTR, Ultegra 105. As long as they match. I want to stock up.

[Tony DeFilippo]

Anyone have experience comparing some of the cheaper axle locking devices to pitlocks?  I've seen options thru some of the euro and Japanese sites for under $20. I'm sure there must be serious compromise going on but I'm not sure where it comes in and if it would really matter to me?  

If i had one or two bikes the pitlock cost would be a no brainer... but that's not the situation I'm in! :)

Tony

[Lungimsam]

Tony,

I once had Zefal Lock and Roll locking skewers. I still have a few.

You turn the bike upside down, put them on like a normal skewer, then flip your bike upright.

As long as the bike is upright, you cannot open them. I think the mechanism is a little ball bearing inside the cam or something that blocks the lever until you flip the bike upside down again, and then you can open the lever like normal.

However, they are easily defeated I hear by using a magnet, and also, once mine got jammed and would not open no matter what I tried, so I used pliers to unscrew the skewer from the non-lever side. No problem to get the nut off and the wheel removed that way.

So they are defeatable pretty easily it seems, and they do get stuck shut sometimes. I would think that 90% of the time they would avert theft. But any thief who notices the purchase providing nut on them could just unscrew the nut if he wanted the wheel bad enough. Some people do know about the magnet trick, too.

 

[Patrick Moore]

Does anyone know if Pitlocks are more secure than combining a U lock for frame with cable lock/s for wheels and saddle?

[Edwin W]

Patrick,

I'm no bike thief, but I think pitlocks are more secure seeming than a cable. As for a u lock, just because of the number of them, there are a lot of them defeated because that is what thieves specialize in. It would be a bear to tackle pitlocks and I would imagine most thieves would move on to what they know.

Edwin

[Tony DeFilippo]

Dave thanks for the info on the Zefal, that is definitely one I had looked at. I hate the idea of it ever being stuck when I wanted it off so that alone would dissuade me.

Tony

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[Deacon Patrick]

I have a standing arrangement with the bear clan here. Nature provides all the grubs and berries they can eat. Occasional honey. Not a single theft.

With abandon,

Patrick

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If you know about Pitlock Skewers that should do it.

TimPetersen

On Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 12:09:12 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:

[Clayton]

I use Pitlocks on my wheels and seat bolt. I love them. Many times I just lock my front wheel to a rack. No scratching the paint, easier etc. 

Clay (Bend)

[Chris Chen]

Pitlocks. I have two sets keyed the same and I'll have a third soon. Order direct from Germany and sometimes they'll throw in a treat :)

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:50 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I use Pitlocks on my wheels and seat bolt. I love them. Many times I just lock my front wheel to a rack. No scratching the paint, easier etc. 

Clay (Bend)

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[drew]

I have no doubts about the pitlock security and I suppose I'll eventually go that way myself. Here in LA, Ive become a firm believer in appearing the most locked up. Most casual thieves won't know a pitlock's resiliency until they do some messing with it and the bike. A ulock thru the back and a thick cable thru the front conveys a fairly straightforward message that my bike will take 15-20 minutes of work out in the open. Maybe you could get the front wheel off faster, but you'd still need to deflate the tire...Most thieves won't risk all that when another barely locked bike is half a block away.
Again, Ill get pitlocks one day soon, but I'll probably still carry a u-lock and cable for what it conveys.

[Michael Hechmer]

I'm with Deacon.  I don't even have doors on the garage, let alone a lock.  In the past 25 years in this town the only thefts I've experienced have been from bears and racoons.  When I was commuting I left a U lock at the hospital on the theory that as long as I didn't have the whimpiest looking lock on the rack I would be fine.  And I was for 13 years.

Michael

[Ginz]

I use the Velo Orange locking skewers.  Reasonable price, reasonable security.  I haven't tried opening them with pliers, yet.  Perhaps I should...

[Patrick Moore]

Can anyone compare the security of the VO ones to the Pitlocks? My impression from reading about both is that the Pitlocks are pretty much foolproof, while the VO's are a much simpler design and could be loosened with, say, vise grips.

I'm thinking of a set of secure skewers myself, and would like to know if the VOs are a worthwhile, and much cheaper, option.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Ginz <the...@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the Velo Orange locking skewers.  Reasonable price, reasonable security.  I haven't tried opening them with pliers, yet.  Perhaps I should...

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[drew]

i think the VO ones all take the same simple key. allen with a hole in the middle, which is easily made or bought. also, they look easier to grab with a wrench. 

On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 10:09:12 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote:

[drew]

i guess while we are talking about it, how does the pitlock seatpost thing work with a rivendell seatpost binder, and more importantly, does it work without any modifications? im having a hard time visualizing how it all fits together with that recessed nut.

[Ginz]

Seems to work

http://www.rivbike.com/pitlockset01-p/lk-21.htm 

[Jeff Ong]

I use Pinheads... same basic idea as Pitlocks, also have on a few bikes keyed alike. They're a slight pain to use compared to QR skewers, but I feel better leaving those bikes locked outside for a few hours. The design seems somewhat more defeatable than Pitlocks, but it's not like I'm running $2000 Enve wheels or anything.

[grrlyrida]

There was an article in the Downtown News that bike thefts are up 60% in downtown LA. The Central Library and restaurants are thieve favorite places to steal bikes. I've never brought my Rivendell down there. I only bring the Bridgestone.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/bike-thefts-soar-nearly-in-downtown/article_6fb464ce-f5cc-11e4-b0d8-3b3feb0bd0e6.html