Honorary Usenet K00K; Glenn Beck: "Don't Do A Google Search" Because "Google Is Pretty Deeply In Bed With The Government"
Gregg
AzzMazta
> <http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102140037>
He's right, and not only is Google in bed with the government, but in bed
with the Left-wing Establishment, though Fox News is part of that same
pseudocon left-wing establishment too. Trust no one.
--
Henry Pizzinger Institution
for the Mentally 31337
AzzMazta, Chairman & CEO
www.xcopfly.com
Bill Graham
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:47:57 -0800, Gregg wrote:
>
>> <http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102140037>
>
> He's right, and not only is Google in bed with the government, but in
> bed with the Left-wing Establishment, though Fox News is part of that
> same pseudocon left-wing establishment too. Trust no one.
Fox News is left wing??? If that's true, then you are even more right
wing than I am, and I am only a fraction of an inch to the left of
anarchy.....:^)
dave
They are neoliberals, not left wing.
AzzMazta
The "neoconservatives" were actually the successors of
FDR/Kennedy/Nixon/Rockefeller pro-business pro-war big-government liberals,
as opposed to the hippie/Carter/Obama anti-business anti-war big-government
liberals. As were both "neoconservative" Bushes. Neither Bush was less laws
or less programs as were Reagan and Gingrich prior to his strange
personality change after 9/11.
dave
> The "neoconservatives" were actually the successors of
> FDR/Kennedy/Nixon/Rockefeller pro-business pro-war big-government liberals,
> as opposed to the hippie/Carter/Obama anti-business anti-war big-government
> liberals. As were both "neoconservative" Bushes. Neither Bush was less laws
> or less programs as were Reagan and Gingrich prior to his strange
> personality change after 9/11.
>
Fox News is now neoliberal
RHF
- They are neoliberals, not left wing.
? Which Part of Left-Wing are Liberals NOT !
Neo-Liberals are still Tainted by 'Liberalism'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
If It Walks Like a Liberal;
and Talks Like a Liberal
IT'S A LEFT-WING* "LIBERAL" !
* It's a 'Red Diaper Doper Baby' "Liberal" [.]
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red%20diaper%20doper%20baby
.
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bpnjensen
> On Feb 16, 4:46 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > On 02/15/2011 09:36 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
>
> > > AzzMazta wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:47:57 -0800, Gregg wrote:
>
> > >>> <http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102140037>
>
> > >> He's right, and not only is Google in bed with the government, but in
> > >> bed with the Left-wing Establishment, though Fox News is part of that
> > >> same pseudocon left-wing establishment too. Trust no one.
>
> > > Fox News is left wing??? If that's true, then you are even more right
> > > wing than I am, and I am only a fraction of an inch to the left of
> > > anarchy.....:^)
>
> - They are neoliberals, not left wing.
You have to be shitting me. Neoliberals? They're anything-goes
capitalists, pure and simple. Their politics is whatever makes
Murdoch the most do-re-mi.
dave
>
> You have to be shitting me. Neoliberals? They're anything-goes
> capitalists, pure and simple. Their politics is whatever makes
> Murdoch the most do-re-mi.
Look up "neoliberal"
bpnjensen
"A political movement beginning in the 1960s that blends traditional
liberal concerns for social justice with an emphasis on economic
growth."
Tell me again how Fox *actually* combines these things?
dave
Where'd that come from?
Fresh off the wikipedia:
Neoliberalism describes a market-driven[1] approach to economic and
social policy based on neoclassical theories of economics that stresses
the efficiency of private enterprise, liberalized trade and relatively
open markets, and therefore seeks to maximize the role of the private
sector in determining the political and economic priorities of the state.
arthr...@webtv.net
Because it is Foxy News .
bpnjensen
OK, well - I guess there's more than one perspective on it. In any
case, it does not sound exactly like what Fox is doing.
Bill Graham
Fox News, and a bunch of radio talk show hosts are all we conservatives have
standing between us and a socialistic state where the government runs and
controls everything and there is no more free market enterprises left. And
the socialists are even now trying to make laws against them to put them off
the air....Whatever happened to Michael Savage? (for example)
bpnjensen
> RHF wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 4:46 am, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >> On 02/15/2011 09:36 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
>
> >>> AzzMazta wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 06:47:57 -0800, Gregg wrote:
>
> >>>>> <http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102140037>
>
> >>>> He's right, and not only is Google in bed with the government, but
> >>>> in bed with the Left-wing Establishment, though Fox News is part
> >>>> of that same pseudocon left-wing establishment too. Trust no one.
>
> >>> Fox News is left wing??? If that's true, then you are even more
> >>> right wing than I am, and I am only a fraction of an inch to the
> >>> left of anarchy.....:^)
>
> > - They are neoliberals, not left wing.
>
> > ? Which Part of Left-Wing are Liberals NOT !
>
> > Neo-Liberals are still Tainted by 'Liberalism'
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
>
> > If It Walks Like a Liberal;
> > and Talks Like a Liberal
> > IT'S A LEFT-WING* "LIBERAL" !
>
> > * It's a 'Red Diaper Doper Baby' "Liberal" [.]
> > .
>
> Fox News, and a bunch of radio talk show hosts are all we conservatives have
> standing between us and a socialistic state where the government runs and
> controls everything and there is no more free market enterprises left. And
> the socialists are even now trying to make laws against them to put them off
> the air....Whatever happened to Michael Savage? (for example)
Right :-/
Bill Graham
> On Feb 18, 5:41 pm, bpnjensen <bpnjen...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 18, 2:00 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/18/2011 01:22 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>>
>>>> You have to be shitting me. Neoliberals? They're anything-goes
>>>> capitalists, pure and simple. Their politics is whatever makes
>>>> Murdoch the most do-re-mi.
>>
>>> Look up "neoliberal"
>>
>> "A political movement beginning in the 1960s that blends traditional
>> liberal concerns for social justice with an emphasis on economic
>> growth."
Unfortunately, these two things are incompatable. Traditional liberal
concerns involve, "spreaqding the wealth" by stealing from the rich and
giving to the poor. This is the antithesis of capitolism, where the smart,
hard working, succeed, and the measure of their success is seen in their
bank accounts. Stealing their money taks away their incentive to learn more
and work harder. So it effectively kills off the best in the society and
turns a greater percentage of the people into ner-do-wells and bums that
just live off the system and do nothing. And, as a result, the society goes
downhilol as has ours during the last 50 years. We graduate less and less
engineers and more and more basket weavers, while other countries are
rushing past us at an ever increasing rate. We will not survive
this....Trust me.
RHF
> On Feb 18, 2:00 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
> > On 02/18/2011 01:22 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
> > > You have to be shitting me. Neoliberals? They're anything-goes
> > > capitalists, pure and simple. Their politics is whatever makes
> > > Murdoch the most do-re-mi.
- - Look up "neoliberal"
- "A political movement beginning in the 1960s that
- blends traditional liberal concerns for social justice
As I Said Neo-Liberals are still Tainted by 'Liberalism'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
If It Limps-A-Round Like a Liberal;
and Talks Out-of-the-Side-of-It's-Mouth Like a Liberal;
IT'S STILL A LEFT-WING* "LIBERAL" !
- with an emphasis on economic growth."
Economic Growth Is Good -provided- It's Coupled With
Lower Taxes and Less Government -much-better- :o) ~ RHF
- Tell me again how Fox *actually* combines these things?
Yeah Yeah Sure FOX News is Populated by
'Red Diaper Doper Babies' -aka- "Liberals"
yeah yeah sure . . . ~ RHF
.
'Red Diaper Doper Baby' = "Liberal" {No 'Neo' Required}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c0a956109b93edce
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.
%
RHF
> On 02/18/2011 02:41 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 18, 2:00 pm, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> >> On 02/18/2011 01:22 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
> >>> You have to be shitting me. Neoliberals? They're anything-goes
> >>> capitalists, pure and simple. Their politics is whatever makes
> >>> Murdoch the most do-re-mi.
>
> >> Look up "neoliberal"
>
> > "A political movement beginning in the 1960s that blends traditional
> > liberal concerns for social justice with an emphasis on economic
> > growth."
>
> > Tell me again how Fox *actually* combines these things?
>
> Where'd that come from?
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
-
- Neoliberalism describes a market-driven[1] approach
- to economic and social policy based on neoclassical
- theories of economics that stresses the efficiency of
- private enterprise, liberalized trade and relatively open
- markets, and therefore seeks to maximize the role of
- the private sector in determining the political and
- economic priorities of the state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
WikiPedia Says Trust Us 'Special-Dave'
WikiPedia Says Repeat What We Say 'Special-Dave'
WikiPedia Says We Are The Truth and The Light 'Special-Dave'
-for-whoever-believeth-in-our-web-pages-shall-have-the-knowledge*-
* "The Knowledge" : As We WikiPedia Define It For You.
'Special-Dave' -says- WikiPedia Says . . .
WikiPedia Said It and I Believe It [.]
.
'Red Diaper Doper Baby' = "Liberal" {No 'Neo' Required}
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c0a956109b93edce
.
ROTFL : FOX News is Populated by
'Red Diaper Doper Babies' -aka- "Liberals"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8b1ff14ade53b523
.
.
dave
> RHF wrote:
>
> Fox News, and a bunch of radio talk show hosts are all we conservatives
> have standing between us and a socialistic state where the government
> runs and controls everything and there is no more free market
> enterprises left. And the socialists are even now trying to make laws
> against them to put them off the air....Whatever happened to Michael
> Savage? (for example)
Yes it's much better to have Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil run and
control everything. Without government, how does the little guy stand up
to big business?
I listen to the Savage Weiner on KKOB 770 every weekday evening. He is a
liberal putting on a show. He is an old school macrobiotic hippie who
pals around with Jerry Brown. His angry unhinged right-wing "Savage"
personna is shtick. Pure shtick,
The public airwaves belong to the people, who deserve to have their
needs met by the radio. It serves no one but a select view if 95% of the
opinion on the radio is the same.
dave
> arthr...@webtv.net wrote:
> Unfortunately, these two things are incompatable. Traditional liberal
> concerns involve, "spreaqding the wealth" by stealing from the rich and
> giving to the poor. This is the antithesis of capitolism, where the
> smart, hard working, succeed, and the measure of their success is seen
> in their bank accounts. Stealing their money taks away their incentive
> to learn more and work harder. So it effectively kills off the best in
> the society and turns a greater percentage of the people into
> ner-do-wells and bums that just live off the system and do nothing. And,
> as a result, the society goes downhilol as has ours during the last 50
> years. We graduate less and less engineers and more and more basket
> weavers, while other countries are rushing past us at an ever increasing
> rate. We will not survive this....Trust me.
Wow. That's pretty convoluted. Progressive taxes have been around a lot
longer than modern capitalism. Jefferson said the rich should pay more
because the country needs it and they can afford it. Import tariffs were
extra stiff on luxury goods because the rich were the people who bought
them.
There was no capitalism in 1775. It came as a result of the Industrial
Revolution.
High taxes on business profits encourage entrepreneurs to put the money
back in the business, not in their "bank accounts" where it does no one
any good.
bpnjensen
> On Feb 18, 6:18 pm, dave <d...@dave.dave> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 02/18/2011 02:41 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 18, 2:00 pm, dave<d...@dave.dave> wrote:
> > >> On 02/18/2011 01:22 PM, bpnjensen wrote:
>
> > >>> You have to be shitting me. Neoliberals? They're anything-goes
> > >>> capitalists, pure and simple. Their politics is whatever makes
> > >>> Murdoch the most do-re-mi.
>
> > >> Look up "neoliberal"
>
> > > "A political movement beginning in the 1960s that blends traditional
> > > liberal concerns for social justice with an emphasis on economic
> > > growth."
>
> > > Tell me again how Fox *actually* combines these things?
>
> > Where'd that come from?
>
> - Fresh off the wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
> -
> - Neoliberalism describes a market-driven[1] approach
> - to economic and social policy based on neoclassical
> - theories of economics that stresses the efficiency of
> - private enterprise, liberalized trade and relatively open
> - markets, and therefore seeks to maximize the role of
> - the private sector in determining the political and
>
> WikiPedia Says Trust Us 'Special-Dave'
>
> WikiPedia Says Repeat What We Say 'Special-Dave'
>
> WikiPedia Says We Are The Truth and The Light 'Special-Dave'
> -for-whoever-believeth-in-our-web-pages-shall-have-the-knowledge*-
>
> * "The Knowledge" : As We WikiPedia Define It For You.
>
> 'Special-Dave' -says- WikiPedia Says . . .
> WikiPedia Said It and I Believe It [.]
> .
> 'Red Diaper Doper Baby' = "Liberal" {No 'Neo' Required}http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/c0a956109b93edce
> .
> ROTFL : FOX News is Populated by
> 'Red Diaper Doper Babies' -aka- "Liberals"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8b1ff14ade53b523
> .
> .
Fox News is populated by people seeking money. Period. Politics are
only incidental.
Bill Graham
The, "Industrial revolution" was just an improvement in technology that is a
natural result of capitolism, and not the cause of it. It could be argued
that without capitolism, there would have never been an industrial
revolution. For sure, it started here in the US under a free enterprise
system. thousands of years of fudalism sure didn't produce it. It was the
result of greed, and the prospect of making more money which you could KEEP,
and not have to give to the government in taxes, so they could blow it into
space by sending a dozen ass-naughts to the moon, or whatever other
hare-brained schemes they came up with.
And, the dumbest statement I have heard on this forum in the last couple of
years, is, "> High taxes on business profits encourage entrepreneurs to put
the
> money back in the business, "
But it sure tells me that you think just like the present Democratic
administration does........Do you really think that entrepeneurs are
encouraged to invest more money in their businesses by having to pay higher
taxes? Give me a break!
dave
> The, "Industrial revolution" was just an improvement in technology that
> is a natural result of capitolism, and not the cause of it. It could be
> argued that without capitolism, there would have never been an
> industrial revolution. For sure, it started here in the US under a free
> enterprise system. thousands of years of fudalism sure didn't produce
> it. It was the result of greed, and the prospect of making more money
> which you could KEEP, and not have to give to the government in taxes,
> so they could blow it into space by sending a dozen ass-naughts to the
> moon, or whatever other hare-brained schemes they came up with.
>
> And, the dumbest statement I have heard on this forum in the last couple
> of years, is, "> High taxes on business profits encourage entrepreneurs
> to put the
>> money back in the business, "
>
> But it sure tells me that you think just like the present Democratic
> administration does........Do you really think that entrepeneurs are
> encouraged to invest more money in their businesses by having to pay
> higher taxes? Give me a break!
Actually, yes I do.
Brenda Ann
"Bill Graham" wrote in message
news:VLydnX0G3ZWh2P3Q...@giganews.com...
The, "Industrial revolution" was just an improvement in technology that is a
natural result of capitolism, and not the cause of it. It could be argued
that without capitolism, there would have never been an industrial
revolution. For sure, it started here in the US under a free enterprise
system. thousands of years of fudalism sure didn't produce it.
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From Wikipedia:
The Industrial Revolution was a period from the 18th to the 19th century
where major changes in agriculture, manufacturing, mining, transportation,
and technology had a profound effect on the socioeconomic and cultural
conditions of the times. It began in the United Kingdom, then subsequently
spread throughout Europe, North America, and eventually the world.
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And, the dumbest statement I have heard on this forum in the last couple of
years, is, "> High taxes on business profits encourage entrepreneurs to put
the
> money back in the business, "
But it sure tells me that you think just like the present Democratic
administration does........Do you really think that entrepeneurs are
encouraged to invest more money in their businesses by having to pay higher
taxes? Give me a break!
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The statement is true. The tax code is set up with various incentives (tax
breaks) for companies that reinvest capital (not CAPITOL, that's a building)
back into their business (hiring, research and development, infrastructure,
etc.)
RHF
- Period.
So All The 'Nice' Leberal People Working At : PBS/NPR;
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC etc etc etc . . .
-naturally-work-for-free- =r=o=t=f=l=
.
- Politics are only incidental.
-and- 'Business' -is- "BUSINESS" @ FOX, PBS/NPR;
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC etc etc etc . . .
-a-so-called-fundamental-truth-
.
Americanism = Freedom & Capitalism*
-aka- The Pursuit of Happiness
It's All Good - imho ~ RHF
.
* Free Enterprise {The Freedom To Be Free}
.
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RHF
> dave wrote:
> > On 02/18/2011 09:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
"Bill Graham" : Do Not Preach To The 'Special-Dave'
-cause- Special-Dave' is "SPECIAL" and most Daze
{Days} the Medical Marijuana Haze is so thick that
'Evad-Laiceps' thinks everyone else is talking/writing
backwards.
'evad-laiceps' uoy evol ew ~ FHR
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RHF
wrote:
> "Bill Graham" wrote in message
>
> news:VLydnX0G3ZWh2P3Q...@giganews.com...
>
> The, "Industrial revolution" was just an improvement in technology that is a
> natural result of capitolism,
Technology Following Enterprise "Greed"
{Maximizing The Profit Potential} ~ RHF
.
The Natural Development of the "Industrial Revolution"
...and... Overcoming It Excesses . . . Socialism...
Morphing into Communism...Evolving into...
State Corporatism {Fascism} -aka- China Today :
The Future of a Global {One-World} Economy.
-it's-a-vision-thing-
.
.
bpnjensen
Is every obvious connection lost on you for the sake of convenience?
I cannot believe you are that dense.
bpnjensen
It's pretty logical, in fact. It's a long-term tax shelter and your
inherent value continues to climb.
RHF
- - - - 'Red Diaper Doper Babies' -aka- "Liberals"
- - - - http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8b1ff14ade53b523
- - - Fox News is populated by people seeking money.
- - - Period.
- - So All The 'Nice' Leberal People Working At : PBS/NPR;
- - ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC etc etc etc . . .
- - -naturally-work-for-free- =r=o=t=f=l=
- - .
- - - Politics are only incidental.
- -
- - -and- 'Business' -is- "BUSINESS" @ FOX, PBS/NPR;
- - ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC etc etc etc . . .
- - -a-so-called-fundamental-truth-
- - .
- - Americanism = Freedom & Capitalism*
- - -aka- The Pursuit of Happiness
- - It's All Good - imho ~ RHF
- - .
- - * Free Enterprise {The Freedom To Be Free}
- Is every obvious connection lost on you
'The Obvious' -is- "The Obvious"
-cause- It Is Obvious -brilliant-!-
.
- for the sake of convenience?
The Sake-of-Convenience... Is So Convenient !
-it's-a-inconvenient-truth-
.
- I cannot believe you are that dense.
Dense-R-Us : Common Simple Peoples of the World.
-bpnj-why-do-you-have-to-resort-to-name-calling-?-
It simply detracts from your points and your arguments
-you-are-better-than-that- ~ RHF
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arthr...@webtv.net
> dave wrote:
> > On 02/18/2011 09:41 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
A) Industrial Revolution did NOT originate in the US . B) We have
to understand that the general word 'Capitalism' includes many
variations, eg. Merchant Capitalism, Industrial Capitalism, Banking
and etc. C) Business prospers most when the role of gov't is anemic
or totally nonexistent ! D) High taxes can destroy the most
vibrant economy D) Feudalism did not disappear totally in our
times . E) In these tough economic times severe budget cutbacks have
crippled one of the most advanced scientific organizations that ever
existed on the face of the Earth (NASA) . Space exploration is pretty
much reduced right now . E) Despite what we hear from various
sources, it was the PRESENT administration that bailed out
GM,Chrysler,several banksters and insurance crooksters . One hand
washes the other .
RHF
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:22:01 -0800 (PST), RHF
- Pointing out you're a fucking lunatic is not name calling.
Gary L. Burnore : ! "fucking" !
Gary L. Burnore : ! "lunatic" !
Gary L. Burnore : ! "fucking" + "lunatic" !
- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[>: To Liberal-Fascist {Democrat} Name Calling :<]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When An Ever So Super-Smart "Enlightened" Liberal
Democrat Socialist Starts Fascist Name Calling*.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/318979fbe8546cfa
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional
+ Plus They Often Snip/Delete What You Wrote :
To Disguise Their Complete Inability To Carry The
Argument Forward. -that-is-how-i-see-it- ~ RHF©
.
-now-:-back-on-topic-&-back-on-message-
Americanism = Freedom & Capitalism
-aka- The Pursuit of Happiness
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/1eb905f28bdf9e81
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7df779b5682108ff
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dave
World Report", "National Review", "Aviation Week (and Space
Technology)", "Soldier of Fortune", and "American Rifleman". My politics
were shaped by this and Beat Generation style libertarianism. I believe
in a fair fight, by any means necessary.
Bill Graham
And just how many of them have you polled to get this result?
Bill Graham
We were not talking about, "the tax code". We were talking about, "higher
taxes". These are two different things.
Bill Graham
Whats a, "long term tax shelter"? What are you talking about? Do you really
think the government can invest your money better than you can? You know
what they have been doing with your social security money, don't you? - They
have been spending it! That's what they do with every cent they get their
grubby little hands on. the lower the taxes on profits, the more money I can
reinvest in my business and the faster it will grow, and the more employees
I will hire to keep up with the increased business. That's a fact. And it
doesn't depend on your liberal keneysian double talk, either.
Bill Graham
Well, we were talking about higher taxes, not the tax code. I have no
argument with the tax code. ASAMOF, I think the form 1040 is one of the very
few really useful government documents......
RHF
OMG 'Special-Dave' !
-you-have-become-your-worst-nightmare-
You Have Become Your Father ;;-}} ~ RHF
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dave
No. He was way less skeptical than I. He thought PJ O'Rourke was
Anti-American for making fun of politicians.
dave
I merely wish that the USA return to the trade policies that protected
workers, and that the guvmint put our interests ahead of those of
artificial persons.