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Ayo.
Go research on why Igbos feel that Yoruba betrayed a trust.
May be Ojukwu should have let Pa Awo rot in prison. Was he not convicted of treason by a court in Nigeria?
War casualties are understandable but the casualties Awo created after the war with his £20 policy is more painful because we, the Igbos, could not pose any resistance on that like we did in some of the battle fields , before being caught alive in that policy.
Awo's policy continued till now as could be evidenced in the deplorable condition of the Niger bridge, the moving of the goal post when it was time for Ekwueme to seek the presidential position. When NPN court judge denied Ojukwu a position his people voted him in. He won a Senate seat and was deprived a sitting by NPN for fear of his out smarting all of them them combined.
4) When they created the geopolitical zones and sand witched Igbo between the SS.
Go check that map of the Geo zones of Nigeria and say if the figure shows some idea of geometry or may be the plan was to still Isolate the Igbos so they can easily be defined and marginalized without incurring the wrath of Cross River and Akwaibom people. Akwa Ibom by location is not supposed to be called a SS state. It fits into a SE puzzle.
Nigeria wants us, the Igbos to feel good for the so called appointment of some Igbos to some federal positions as though it is a favor instead of a right based on the federal character scheme.
Igbos do not need such pacifications. We are no kids that could be tauted and quietened with MacDonald's French fries.
We need that bridge built like now and we need the toll fee planed deleted from the contract because it is unfair for us, Igbos, to pay to use a road and bridge built in our land, unless such would apply to such roads and bridges in other states.
I believe some of these late policies on the Igbos post the war were designed by Awo, so the Igbos would feel the pain of loosing the war much longer and deeper.
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In June of this year, in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an interview with Ikemba.
He worked to connect me to Ojukwu’s children who would facilitate the interview. Ikemba was then on his sick bed in a London Hospital. I drafted 12 questions in preparation. It later turned out that Ikemba was in no position to speak to me.
But ten years ago, I interviewed Ikemba in Boston. Though I met him several times after (including a 2004? private meeting in Maryland where I saw an Ojukwu, quite different from the one seen in public), that interview of July 9th 2001 became my last interview with him.
While dated in some ways, the interview is still relevant today as it was then.
As we reflect on the life and times of Dim Ojukwu who passed away this morning, here is an extract from the interview as published by Nigeriaworld.com
RUDOLF OKONKWO: “The Federation of Nigeria is today as corrupt, as unprogressive and as oppressive and irreformable as the Ottoman Empire was in Eastern Europe over a century ago. And in contrast, the Nigerian Federation in the form it was constituted by the British cannot by any stretch of imagination be considered an African necessity. Yet we are being forced to sacrifice our very existence as a people to the integrity of that ramshackle creation that has no justification either in history or in the freely expressed wishes of the people.”
That was you speaking in 1969. Do you still believe in those sentiments or have they changed?
OJUKWU: Regretfully, they haven’t changed. The worst thing about Nigeria is that here is a nation that has so much potential but the only problem is that everybody seems unprepared to face the problems or the realities of the Nigerian situation. There is absolutely no way you can look at the Nigerian federation, the way it was conceived, and say it is a good federation. One of the federating units is bigger than the other units. The other thing is that everything that has worked in Nigeria, or appears to have worked, seems very much to have been an imposition. The idea that sovereignty belongs to the Nigerian people is all fiction as far as Nigeria is concerned.
I was talking to somebody earlier on today, and I said that one of the problems we have is that we have refused to define our union. Yet, Nigeria is one place that, because of the many, many disparate units in the country, needs to work together. This imposes on us the need to define every step of our being so that every body knows his rights but, unfortunately, this is one thing that Nigerians are not willing to do. I don’t know why. If America says to you today that they are proud of the fact that, for two hundred years, they have been trying to make their union more perfect, it sounds very reasonable. But, in Nigeria, you are not even allowed to question your union, which is ridiculous. Even if Nigerians at a certain point, say ten years ago, thought one way, what right have we got to think that new thoughts, new brains, haven’t emerged that can work out something different. This idea of considering a national conference, an idea only put out to make Nigeria breakup, is one of the most ridiculous concepts Nigerians have.
It is the same thing that we are going through over resource control. Somebody says I want to control my resources and automatically everybody takes up arms, saying no, no, you mustn’t talk about it. Why mustn’t you? It is yours. If you say it isn’t then simply declare that nobody owns any resource. At that point I would ask you, who owns the northern landmass? Isn’t the land a natural resource? Why does it belong to the North alone? Why don’t we march up there and take our own share? If it’s land, the North can have it; if it is oil, then, of course, Nigeria must have it, not the people who found it under their soil. In any case, that you want to control it doesn’t mean that you want to take it all. No. The idea of all resources is to know who owns the resource and allow that person to negotiate his own place within the federation with the resources that he has. We the Igbos, whatever we have under the ground, will negotiate, and I make this quite boldly, our place in Nigeria using our own rather high-level manpower.
In Nigeria you say you have a democracy but you don’t allow parties to spring up as parties normally would anywhere in the world. What is INEC? Registering a party? Why? They can take note of the existence of a party but they haven’t got any executive right over its functions. There is nothing wrong with me personally setting up a party purely for the interest of the people of Umudim in Nnewi. I wouldn’t win a national sort of mandate, I am sure, but if I choose to safeguard the right of a minute group, why shouldn’t I? If I choose that my political party should be one that protects four-legged animals, why shouldn’t I? Why can’t I go into politics determined that culture is essentially religion or that religion is essentially culture and determined to protect the culture of our people, why not? Even today, they have a Christian Democratic Union of Germany. In Nigeria, because of that word Christian, it will be banned. You cannot have a Christian Democratic Union in Nigeria. Why? So, generally, I say that I would like to see a more mature approach. Stop treating Nigerians all over, across the board, as children.
I don’t know who decided on a structure of 36 states, but I say, if we decide to review it, why shouldn’t we? Those states, you and I must understand, were mainly punitive creations rather than a need for economic advancement of Nigeria or Nigerians. Let us stop burying our heads in the sand. We have had national emergencies and managed to get out of it. Let us look at each other eyeball to eyeball and decide the type of country that we want to live in. I believe that is essential.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: For over a year now, you have been calling for the formation of an Igbo political party where Igbos would be majority, rather than the current situation where Igbos are minority in a majority party. You have argued consistently that it is the only way for Igbo agenda to receive the attention it deserves. What progress has been made towards the establishment of such a party? And following the same reasoning, why are you not supporting the formation of a country where Igbos would be majority?
OJUKWU: You caught me short there. The formation of a country where Igbos would be majority? I have never opposed it. If the Igbos feel that things are best for them in a country of their own, why shouldn’t they have it? If after all we have been going through in Nigeria we feel that Biafra is best, we have every right to seek to re-create Biafra or any other place. Let us not make the mistake of thinking that this world is a prison. You are what you are for as long as it is comfortable for you. That is how I see it. I have continued to say that in Nigeria what we require is a nation that we can build together. You will understand where I am coming from better if you understand that I was brought up in the Pan-Africanist tradition. I believe that, not only would it be better for the Black man anywhere if we in Africa find a way of joining hands, all of us - Ghanaians, Nigerians, Basotho, Sierra-Leoneans, etc. - it would be wonderful. Now, with that at the back of my thoughts you can understand that the only problem that will not permit that is man becoming beast to his fellow man because of the accident that puts power into the hands of somebody.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: You seem to be traveling across the globe searching for someone to take the baton from you. Is there nobody at home who is capable? What attributes are you looking for in the potential leader you are searching for?
OJUKWU: To start with, it is clear to me that I can’t suddenly wake up one morning and say, here, I have found him. It doesn’t ever work that way. More than anything else, what I am trying to do is to wake up the youths of our society. That power, the way I see it, is not my personal preserve. I think that more people should come forward and when they do, very simply, one day, another leader would emerge. I would like also to stress, in the context of this, that whatever it is that people admire in what I have done, let them remember also that I did most of them when I was 33. So, I don’t want a group of people laid back, always waiting for something to be served them on a platter of gold. Come out; show your hands, struggle; take over the baton, I wouldn’t fight you.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: You once said that whoever wants this baton should snatch it if it wasn’t given to him or her. Some observers think that Chief Ralph Uwazurike is fighting to snatch the baton from you but rather than receive the support of the king makers, he is being persecuted by the governments of Imo and Abia States in conjunction with the Obasanjo’s administration, making laws aimed at keeping MASSOB down. How does this hostile environment help your search for the emergence of a new Igbo leadership?
OJUKWU: There is absolutely no question of MASSOB or Ralph Uwazurike not being received by me. I like Ralph. We get on very well. He even saw me to the airport when I was leaving. That close we are. When you talk about the establishment, what you find is one of my problems about the Nigerian structure. What the governments of Abia or Imo are doing; whatever positions they have taken about Ralph Uwazurike are not Igbo positions. They are reflecting what they imagine would be pleasing to Obasanjo and his government. That’s all.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Once again, Nigeria is seeing an upsurge in ethnic violence. There is a total breakdown of law and order. Large quantities of arms are being imported into the country. Is Nigeria a failed State?
OJUKWU: It is always difficult to know which is rumor and which is fact, more so in a place like Nigeria. Certainly, it is clear that the forces of law and order have tended to fail the citizenry. It is equally true that under Obasanjo’s government, though called democratic, more people have been killed for various reasons; that life has not been secured under his government. It is equally true that throughout his government in the two years, Nigeria has had ethnic problems. These are factors, I suppose, with which one can judge the success or failure of Obasanjo’s government. And it is also the factors that would indicate to you that there are underlying problems of Nigeria that need to be looked into and that if Obasanjo is not looking well into them, then he is not doing his job. That’s how I see it.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Revisionist historians and their political friends are tearing apart the History of Nigeria. You are a major player in those years. It could safely be said that the history of Nigeria from 1966 to 1970 is nothing but the biography of Chief Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu. Why have you remained silent on this?
OJUKWU: I do not remain silent. No. And I am happy that you asked this question. When you are not vested with authority, it is always difficult to get your voice heard in Nigeria. I say this, and it is not being big headed, singularly, I am probably the most popular politician in the country. Proof: I only have to step out on the roads and you see what happens. In fact, I amuse myself and I laugh also, very often finding myself in a position where I introduce the “successful” ones who side by side with me waged the struggle. They succeeded; I “failed”, but when we get to Nigeria today, it would be expected of me to introduce them. That is the position. But the other thing that you might be alluding to, is this question of writing a book about the war. I must confess that my attitude is slightly different from yours on that matter. I am more preoccupied with the immediate future. When I came back from exile, I was asked something nearly the same as you are now asking, and I said God in his infinite mercy gave us two eyes and both of them are facing forward. He could have given us one eye in front and one behind, but he didn’t. All that he has done that for, in my view, is always to remind us that the future is more important than the past. And that, indeed, is my own feeling. The other thing is that Generals who have delusions about their earned professionalism spend years and miles and miles of paper trying to tell the world how they waged a struggle and without help won it single handedly. So, those who think they are brilliant Generals let them write. I am a historian, social scientist; I am more preoccupied with what would happen to this unit called Nigeria tomorrow, the next day, and the day after. Whenever I get down pen and paper, and I will be getting them more and more, it will be an effort to help Nigerians discover themselves, not to glorify a past that really didn’t exist.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: How did you receive the news that you fought the civil war over resource control? When you hear statements like the one which said you sent Biafran troops into Midwest with the sole aim of taking over Nigeria and making it an Igbo dominated country, how do you react? What does such rewritten history tell you about the people who make such statements?
OJUKWU: I laugh because it is most unintelligent. The people who say this sort of thing are people who remain fixated at a certain point in history. What they are repeating ad nauseam is the propaganda with which they fought a war that ended full 30 years ago. I urge them to wake up and look at the new situation. Nobody went across the Niger to loot banks. All the banks that have been looted till today, were looted by prominent servants of the Federal Government.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Modern day analysts have opined that the Ojukwu that died in 1970 would have been more powerful than the living Ojukwu of this day. Why didn’t you stay and fight until the end?
OJUKWU: Consider committing suicide? I am asking. What I considered was to fight the war to the best of our ability and give a leadership to our people for as long as I could. If you remember, when I left Biafra I went in search of peace. I went trying to get hold of Houphouet-Boigny, the president of the Ivory Coast. He happened to be in Cameroon. By the time he came back and we had a discussion, my number two, General Effiong, had surrendered. That was the way it came about. But all that notwithstanding, I know many people would have loved a dead Ojukwu but I would not oblige them. I intend to live for very, very, much longer and I intend also to be quite vocal in politics for as long as I can.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Some agitators for a New Biafra are signaling their intention to establish a government in exile if it could not be achieved at home. Did you ever consider doing so when you left Biafra?
OJUKWU: Consider? Yes, but I dismissed it.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Why?
OJUKWU: Because I didn’t see what good it would do. Oh, it would do me personal good because some people would still look upon me as a Head of State and they would certainly, in certain places, give the red carpet receptions. But, is that what life is all about? Life is about the betterment of the lot of the millions of people at home. I had to consider very seriously what possible reaction a government that, for three years, had intent on genocide would have on such situation vis-à-vis our people who are still captive within the Nigerian situation.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Your critics think that you came back from exile, fought and recovered your father’s properties but you have not done enough to help other Igbos to recover their so-called abandoned properties. Is that a fair judgment?
OJUKWU: I will always have critics and whatever it is, they have every right to their opinion. I am satisfied in my mind that I have done as much as I can, and I am continuing to try to do more to help as many of my compatriots as I can. What am I expected to have done? What did I do even for my father’s properties, my inheritance? I went to court. If I am going to court for Ndigbo, I think the very first thing that I would have to prove is my locus. I believe that Nigeria’s concept about my locus does not permit me to assume certain national responsibilities. That’s just one thing. There are many others but in any case, I am satisfied that I have led delegations, talked about our people who lost their jobs, retired army officers and so on. Slowly, we are getting a hearing and I shall continue doing what I can. But that wouldn’t stop anybody from criticizing me.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Until recently, the Biafran veterans and the dead Biafrans have been neglected. The same is being said about those who financed the war. The fear out there is that failure to appreciate those who made sacrifices in the past would not encourage others to help when such a need arises. Have you been able to say thank you? And when will Igbos do the same?
OJUKWU: We do what we can in a circumstance that we are in control of. Even this morning, I thanked Israel for whatever help they had given us. I am constantly thanking other people whenever I meet them. I take it upon myself to maintain the symbolism of Biafra. I thank them. But that is not the issue here. The true issue is that people gave us sympathy. But financing the war? That is an odd concept. Nobody financed any war. What happened was that Nigerians decided that they would like to put a final solution to Igbo problem. They unleashed a massacre. We tried to contain them; they unleashed a second wave more vicious than the previous one. I looked upon the situation, did the best I could for our people who were scattered all over Nigeria. I said okay, this is our boundary. If you can find your way back to within this area, whatever there is within this area would be shared amongst all of us. You have as much right here as anybody who happened to be here. That actually is another way of seeing the declaration of Biafra and they had a goal and aim in their flight. The other thing to bear in mind is that we didn’t really wage a war. What we did was resist Gowon’s coup d’état and I hope that he would enter the Guinness Book of Records as the person who has waged a coup longer than any body else because the whole three years, he was actually trying to legitimize his coup.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: A common trend in Igbo political discourse has been the labeling of those with dissenting opinion as saboteurs. It was prevalent during the war and continued till this day. Does it mean that there will always be Ifeajunas and Banjos in Igbo socio-political life and must they always be killed?
OJUKWU: During the war, there were saboteurs. I understand that historically. Our people didn’t fully understand the enterprise of saying no to Nigeria. A lot thought, in fact, that it would end much quicker. A lot thought that perhaps, even, it would be less painful. But in the course of our propaganda, they were labeled saboteurs. After the war, I am not aware of dissenters that have been labeled saboteurs. Perhaps, some people with loose sort of language might have, but I am not very much aware of that. Since the end of the war, there have been dissents, but then, that is the essence of democracy. There will always be dissenters. I don’t expect every Igbo man, woman, and child to agree with me. No. If they did, I would probably pull out, wondering what had gone wrong. There would be dissent but my aim is that amongst the Igbos, there should always emerge clearly an Igbo agenda to which the majority of Ndigbo would find adherence. I don’t think Ndigbo would all be in one political party. No. Forgive me if I use this as an example, the Jewish National Congress is an umbrella organization that encompasses all the Jews, but you now go from Likud to Labor and all that. They are different parties. America, for strength, is poised more closely than any other place at 50:50, those who agree and those who don’t. This is the strength of democracy. Therefore, when you say some of these things, I say, look at it less sentimentally. There is no way Igbos would all speak with one voice. But let one be more slightly strident than the others. That is what I look for.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: I overheard two Igbos talking about your marriage to Bianca. They were of the opinion that the marriage of the greatest Igbo man alive to the most beautiful woman ever produced by Igbo land, was a reward for all the sacrifices you made for Igbos. Do you feel adequately compensated?
OJUKWU: I can never be compensated enough on this matter. If, indeed, the question is my wife, she is the greatest thing that has happened to me. I don’t know what I have done to deserve so much compensation, but, if you call it compensation, I dedicate myself much further to the service of Ndigbo who in their wisdom gave me such compensation.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: There is a big debate going on in the Internet over whether Awolowo said to you that if the East should secede, the West would secede. The conversation supposedly took place in Enugu on May 6, 1967 and was pulled from what was titled, Ojukwu and Pa Awo Conversation and Speeches during the War in 1967. The information was claimed to have been classified but now declassified. Is this information authentic?
OJUKWU: Let’s stop fooling ourselves, please. When any Nigerian gets up and say, this is classified information that has recently been declassified, I say, classified by whom? Declassified by whom? Do you think we are in America where you have these things? In Nigeria nobody classifies anything and nobody has declassified anything. So, once it starts with that you know there is deception.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: They said you were the one that recorded this conversation.
OJUKWU: And then I declassified it recently?
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Prof. Aluko, Prof. Eni Njoku, Dr. Nwakanma, Dr. PNC Okigbo, Lt. Col. Imo, Chief J.I Onyia and many others supposedly attended the meeting.
OJUKWU: I find it quite amusing also that all the Igbo participants are dead.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: That is true.
OJUKWU: How come? Is it the death of Pius Okigbo that declassified the information?
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Did the meeting take place, and was there such an agreement?
OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar? Because of the fact that I released him, it created quite a lot of rapport between Awo and myself and I know that before he went back to Ikenne, I set up a hotline between Ikenne and my bedroom in Enugu. He tried like an elder statesman to find a solution. Awolowo is a funny one. Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. So, he said this and I must have made some appropriate responses too. But it didn’t quite work out the way that we both thought. Awolowo, evidently, had a constant review of the Yoruba situation and took different path. That’s it. I don’t blame him for it. I have never done.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: How does it feel like knowing that you are one of the world’s historical figures?
OJUKWU: I don’t know whether I am or not. But certainly, I do know that I am probably the most Nigerian of Nigerians alive today. I also know that the failure of Nigeria has created a reflex and that reflex can be called Biafra. I know that in the context of Biafra that existed, I am very important. Having said that, I feel that I have a responsibility to always point out the deficiencies of Nigeria and to keep alive the alternative. That’s why I say that there will always be, if not the Biafra of territory, Biafra of the heart.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: What does that mean?
OJUKWU: It is an attitude, a revolution, and a rejection of all the corruption and all the terrible things that you find in Nigeria. That will be always around, no matter where; in a little corner, people who want to change things and change them for the better and I am proud to be one of those.
RUDOLF OKONKWO: Thank you very much, Ikemba.
OJUKWU: Thank you.
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Rotimi Fashakin:
Please note the following inexactitudes and subjective conjectures in your piece below.
It was then Col. Ojukwu that ordered the release of Chief Awo from Calabar prison. That when he got to Lagos, then Col. Gowon received him was all about political engineering as Gowon was in need of legitimacy given the then political crisis in national leadership. And Awo took advantage of the opportunity presented in meeting Gowon to pledge his loyalty to his government. That sometime in 1967 Gowon offered him the Finance Ministry portfolio as well as, the Vice-Chairmanship of the Federal Executive Council and he accepted fell into Awo’s game plan. Yoruba opportunism at its highest, period.
The Eastern Region led by then Col. Ojukwu as General Ironsi appointed Military Governor on January 17th, 1966 seceded from Nigeria on May 30th, 1967 and Ojukwu became Biafra’s Head of State. “The Ahiara Declaration” a copy of which is in my library as I write was proclaimed on June 1, 1969. It has nothing to do with the Declaration of Biafra on May 30th, 1967. It is a 29 page document that embodies the Principles of the Biafran Revolution enunciated in Mbaise village known as, Ahiara. Hence the sobriquet, “The Ahiara Declaration”.
Moving on....
You queried:
“When Ironsi was Head of State, did Ojukwu defer to him? Or was he fully in charge, away from the superintending control of Gen. Ironsi?”
You see, General Ironsi was Col. Ojukwu’s military superior by at least three senior ranks. And Ojukwu’s appointment came from General Ironsi. There was no way that Ojukwu will have failed to defer to General Ironsi as his superior and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces. Anything other than that will have been insubordination which is a serious offence in the military. Besides. Ojukwu was a disciplined military officer given to following the military hierarchical order of command.
You further queried:
“If Ojukwu deferred to Ironsi as Head of State,
why is it difficult to comprehend that, without a coup or mutiny, he could not have refused the superintending control of Gowon?”
Again come with me. Gowon was never Ojukwu’s senior nor superior in the Nigerian Army. In order to maintain military discipline and order across the country, Ojukwu insisted that the next superior in rank to General Ironsi should take over as Nigeria’s Military Head of State. And that man was Brigadier Ogundipe who just because a Northern army sergeant refused his orders and barked back at him, he threw down his pistol, fled and took refuge on one of Nigeria’s Naval Ship. And from there, he fled to London on self-imposed exile. After Brigadier Ogundipe made his dash for refuge and safety in London, the next in lines of succession to General Ironsi were Brigadiers Bassey, Ekpo and Col. Adebayo. The Northern mutineers refused any of them to succeed General Ironsi.
Henceforth, indiscipline pervaded the ranks and file of the Nigeria Army; the repercussions of which were the 1966 pogrom against the people of the Eastern Region, particularly the Igbo all over the North; failure to implement an agreed Accord in Aburi, Ghana that was to have averted secession; the Declaration of Biafra; the Federal Government declaration of war and invasion of Biafra. In addition were six more coups two of which failed and four succeeded. Two of the failed coups saw the retributive merciless killings of some of the best military personnel in the Nigeria Army; especially, the failed Dimka coup in which most of the officers and men killed were from the Middle-Belt. Similar killings happened in the failed coup to oust the evil genius, IBB. Also, factor in the military aviation disaster during the same IBB’s regime in which the cream de la crop of the Nigeria Military were killed. And finally, the near “Failure State Status” that Nigeria has remained since those years are all attributable to the break down in discipline and respect for senior ranks which Ojukwu fought very hard to avert.
Country man Rotimi, if you really believe in facts, those are the facts which you left out in your piece. Hope you may now revise your priors.
Cheers.
Mazi KC Prince Asagwara
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Stevek,
I read you loud and clear. Matter of history is about exactitude and not to be subjected to conjecture.
You and I have found ourselves on the same side with vociferous support for GMB because it is our conviction.
I should not be gored into moving with the crowd - as regards an assertion- when the facts of history are clearly against it.
Let us chronicle the events:
1, As Lt. Col, Ojukwu was CO of the 5th Batallion in Kano before the January 15, 1966 coup.
2, After the abortive coup, he was appointed (on 19th January, 1966) military governor of the Eastern region while Major General Ironsi was Head of State.
3, On 24th May, 1966, Ironsi government promulgated the Unification decree which effectively removed the nation's federal structure and replaced it with a Unitary structure that effectively made the central government the governing authority over the Nation state with the regions/states as mere appendages!
4, On 29th July, 1966, Lt Col Yakubu Gowon became Head of State after a successful counter coup.
5, On 3rd August, 1966, Chief Obafemi Awolowo was released from Prison and Gowon, as Head of State, was at the Lagos end to welcome him. Shortly afterwards, he was appointed Federal commissioner for Finance and Vice chair, federal executive council.
6, Lt. Col. CO. Ojukwu was Military governor of Eastern region until 27TH MAY, 1967 (with the Ahiala declaration of the republic of Biafra).
These are the FACTS.
Questions:
1, When Ironsi was Head of State, did Ojukwu defer to him? Or was he fully in charge, away from the superintending control of Gen. Ironsi?
2, If Ojukwu deferred to Ironsi as Head of State, why is it difficult to comprehend that, without a coup or mutiny, he could not have refused the superintending control of Gowon?
CONCLUSION:
I tend to believe that it was Gowon who gave the order for Awo's release but Ojukwu facilitated it.
Rotimi Fashakin
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OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar? Because of the fact that I released him, it created quite a lot of rapport between Awo and myself and I know that before he went back to Ikenne, I set up a hotline between Ikenne and my bedroom in Enugu. He tried like an elder statesman to find a solution. Awolowo is a funny one. Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. So, he said this and I must have made some appropriate responses too. But it didn’t quite work out the way that we both thought. Awolowo, evidently, had a constant review of the Yoruba situation and took different path. That’s it. I don’t blame him for it. I have never done.
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That Ojukwu claimed to have released Awo did not mean that he did. Ayo Ojutalayo
Ayo—You are full of it.
And what is what you think word against Ojukwu’s categorical statement?
Please, respect yourself.
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Subject: Vin, Gowon released Awo: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Vin,
That Ojukwu claimed to have released Awo did not mean that he did. Ojukwu was only talking like a politician. Read my response to Nebu and decide who released Awo. A military Governor had no authority to release Awo. Gowon who released Awo sent a plane to Calabar prison to bring Awo to meet him in Ikeja, Lagos
Ayo Ojutalayo
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Ayo:
Please read the interview below Rudolph Okonkwo had with Ojukwu in November 2011. Let's tell the truth and shame the devil. I wonder what you and Rotimi Fashakin have to say now.
Enjoy reading the interview.
My Last Interview With Dim Chukwuemeka Ojukwu - Rudolf Okonkwo
In June of this year, in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an interview with Ikemba.
Common sense tells us that Awo would visit first, the person that released him. Ayo
To get Ikeja, Awo must first get out of the Eastern Region.
Awo can’t get out of Eastern Nigeria without Ojukwu’s formal release and permission to travel—that’s what common sense says, not the gibberish in red above.
To get out of prison and fly out of Eastern Region, Ojukwu must approve.
This is getting silly and foolish.
(I think Ojukwu and Awo met in Calabar prison before the release, I’m not sure but will check into it)
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Ayo,
You ask:
What is your problem? If Ojukwu did not release Awo, and he claimed he did, does that mean he did?
No, the issue is; What is your problem?
There is no Ojukwu did not release Awo.
There is no Ojukwu claimed he did.
Ojukwu released Awo, period.
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Ayo.
There was Biafra for about 30 months
under Ojukwu's control as head of state until the war ended. Gowon was not in charge of Biafra those days and could not have been directing her affairs including the prisons in Biafra.
Read this below, if you have not done so yet, an excerpt from an interview Ojukwu granted to a journalist some time ago:
" OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar? Because of the fact that I released him, it created quite a lot of rapport between Awo and myself and I know that before he went back to Ikenne, I set up a hotline between Ikenne and my bedroom in Enugu. He tried like an elder statesman to find a solution. Awolowo is a funny one. Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. So, he said this and I must have made some appropriate responses too. But it didn’t quite work out the way that we both thought. Awolowo, evidently, had a constant review of the Yoruba situation and took different path. That’s it. I don’t blame him for it. I have never done"
( Ojukwu).
Go figure out the meaning of the content of his direct speech as excerpted above.
Pa Awo and the Igbos.
Awo was trusted by Ojukwu same way Ifeajuna and Nzeogwu did before the war.
Awo would have been an
"Igbo made" president or prime minister of Nigeria, and would have enjoyed the support and loyalty of Ojukwu and ndi Igbo if Gowon had not staged his 30 month continuous coup against ndi Igbo.
Awo's change of mind over his agreement with Ojukwu on the possibility of an Oduduwa sovereignty, is one of the reasons some of us believe his inability to honor his words , and turn around to become the master planner of strategies to dismantled Biafra is unimaginable of an honest man.
Like one of you, that man that said he recorded all Adekunke said about his bravery, agreed, Awusa could never have won Igbos in that war without the help of Awolowo.
He also forgot to append that Awusa and Yoruba joint military task force would never have been able to take over Biafra without the help of Britain and Russia, 2 world military super powers.
Your take home tonight on this are :
Igbos loved Awo until he defected. Some of is still love him .
That Igbos would hate such Yoruba persons such as Awo, for his role in the war, love him for his role and understanding of Nigeria and how he unlike Zik, he capitalized on chance to enhance his people.
That Ojukwu's mission - save his people from extermination, keep them from harms way, by urging them home and waging a defense against Gowon and his cronies that converted Awusa civilian madness to an organized military force against fellow Nigerians, and chose to take the war to them when they ran away from danger zones in the North, to their home in the East.
That there was no Biafra before the massacres in the North and before 1967. Biafra was a reactionary establishment, a race saving endeavors.
Igbos cannot reasonably hate all Yorubas because of Adekunle, Awo and Obasanjo. Doing so will be a dishonor to the good Yorubas has been to us. Most of us, our business successes could be traced to Lagos, arguably another Igbo land, outside Igbo.
Your disgraced late uncle,
Adekunle, cannot stand or pass any test of loyalty to any law. He was a criminal and a cannibal.
Those of you praising him for disobeying every law of war on the book, may as well be praising all our public officers looting our country , Nigeria, dry.
There is no way anyone flouting a set rule, the way Adekunle reported he did, can be said to be honorable.
He admitted he had to starve other people, none Igbos, he found in the Eastern region, in order to ensure no Igbo baby gets corn meal , corn beef, quaker Oath and multivite, powdered milk, joro, from humanitarian bodies during the war, so he won't make the deadly mistake, he would think, feeding an Igbo child.
We can say he executed Awo's plans well.
This discussions will resurrect when OBJ dies. Watch it!
Sorry, I thought I could stay a day without making a statement about the war here.
Dan
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Dee Achusim.
We pray not to have a situation again that would require a release of an Awo or Ayo from any Igbo based prison.
Igbos are not as heartless as a great portion of Pa Awolowo, nor humorless and emotion stripped as Ayo.
You will be surprised at what I would do if am in charge of Biafra, should there be another one , as was the case with Ojukwu during the war.
I will release them, and let them repeat their acts, biting the fingers that fed them, if they wish. I will also pray that they live long enough to brood over their lack of love of people outside their tribe, should they become monsters again.
Same Ayo, or somebody else here, had in one peace, stated Ojukwu had begged a Yoruba senior soldier to take over the leadership of Nigeria during the later crises preceding the war, and he, the Yoruba soldier, refused and ran away, thereby giving Gowon a room to become head of state.
Ojukwu, like a lot of some other Igbos, love Yorubas , we live more peacefully with the Yorubas than with Awusas, and made / make a lot of our monies in Yoruba land.
Ayo and his ilks here want the world to believe that every Yoruba is Adekunle and Awo and himself. Most Igbos don't see it that way. We rather see , here at least, the Olas, and Woles and never the Olaninyis ( those Yorubas who like to waste Igbo humans and Igbo wealth )
We shall let Ayo continue to lie like a dog with flees. Such distortions he spreads here won't change any existing truth about the release of Awo nor the cannibal, Adekunle confessed he was.
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Ayo.
There is a better way to access the truth on this issue. The best is hearing it from the horses mouth. I reposted Ojukwu's statement on the issue, you refused to buy that. I thought you may like to hear from a Yoruba, so I forwarded a statement from late Sam Aluko, you refused to believe that too. I think hearing their voice on the same issue will convince you better.
You may get some right answers to some of your concerns on who let Awo free if you would have the patience to join them when your time comes. All, Ojukwu, Aluko Sr, Awo, Adekunle, are in jail ( heaven or hell or both combined, never coming back here again.
Aguyi Ironsi did not make the announcement and did not let Awo out of jail.
Events overtook such a plan and Awo remained in jail until Ojukwu took control of his own country, Biafra, and every establishment therein. He also releases Awo.
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That Ojukwu claimed to have released Awo did not mean that he did. Ayo Ojutalayo
Ayo—You are full of it.
And what is what you think word against Ojukwu’s categorical statement?
Please, respect yourself.
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Subject: Vin, Gowon released Awo: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Vin,
That Ojukwu claimed to have released Awo did not mean that he did. Ojukwu was only talking like a politician. Read my response to Nebu and decide who released Awo. A military Governor had no authority to release Awo. Gowon who released Awo sent a plane to Calabar prison to bring Awo to meet him in Ikeja, Lagos
Ayo Ojutalayo
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Ayo:
Please read the interview below Rudolph Okonkwo had with Ojukwu in November 2011. Let's tell the truth and shame the devil. I wonder what you and Rotimi Fashakin have to say now.
Enjoy reading the interview.
My Last Interview With Dim Chukwuemeka Ojukwu - Rudolf Okonkwo
In June of this year, in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an interview with Ikemba.
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Ojukwu's statement can NEVER be the gospel truth in this matter. He is an interested party. Of course his account of events must paint him in heroic light!
Neither is the historical fabrication posted by the Biafran Revisionist Obi Nwakanma. If we take Nwakanma's account at its face value, then we accept a lie that there was a power vaccum between Aug. 1 to Aug. 9 1966. How does that sound to you?
The coupists had indeed, chosen Yakubu Gowon and he went ahead to release Awolowo. That was a masterstroke by a government seeking to assuage the West and enlist it as a critical partner in the anticipated face off between the North and the SE.
Any other "version" is the now familiar Biafran historical revisionism. We have trod this path several times. And as long as the likes of Obi Nwakanma lurk around this forum, it behoves us to call him out as a liar whose appeal is limited to his fellow Biafran irredentists.
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Ayo:
Please read the interview below Rudolph Okonkwo had with Ojukwu in November 2011. Let's tell the truth and shame the devil. I wonder what you and Rotimi Fashakin have to say now.
Enjoy reading the interview.
My Last Interview With Dim Chukwuemeka Ojukwu - Rudolf Okonkwo
In June of this year, in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an interview with Ikemba.
by SaharaAdminFour Nov 26, 2011
In June of this year, in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an interview with Ikemba.
He worked to connect me to Ojukwu’s children who would facilitate the interview. Ikemba was then on his sick bed in a London Hospital. I drafted 12 questions in preparation. It later turned out that Ikemba was in no position to speak to me.
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There was never a time from August 1 1967 that Ojukwu recognized the authority in Lagos or took orders that were effected in the East. This is the crucial point." . . . Obi NwakanmaVERSUS"there was never a time after the July 29, 1966 coup that Ojukwu recognized the authority in Lagos and took orders that were effected in the East." By Vin
Mr. Vin:
Awolowo was imprisoned by the Federal government under federal laws. His release was authorized by the person recognized under the law as the Head of State. That there was a situation in the eastern part of the country does not detract from the fact that Yakubu Gowon was Nigeria's HOS on August 1, 1966. He was so recognized by a larger part of the federation and the international community.
Could Ojukwu have disallowed the authorized release. Yes because he exercised control over the region where Awolowo was imprisoned.
Did Ojukwu facilitate the release? Yes as military governor of the Eastern Region.
Why did Ojukwu not refuse to recognize Gowon's order for Awolowo's release? Probably to endear himself to the SW and also because of his personal love and reverence for the man.
You sure will agree with me that authorization is different from facilitation.
So for Nwakanma and his co-travellers to flip logic by using the words interchangeably amount to intellectual fraud.
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Rotimi Fashakin:Please note the following inexactitudes and subjective conjectures in your piece below.It was then Col. Ojukwu that ordered the release of Chief Awo from Calabar prison. That when he got to Lagos, then Col. Gowon received him was all about political engineering as Gowon was in need of legitimacy given the then political crisis in national leadership. And Awo took advantage of the opportunity presented in meeting Gowon to pledge his loyalty to his government. That sometime in 1967 Gowon offered him the Finance Ministry portfolio as well as, the Vice-Chairmanship of the Federal Executive Council and he accepted fell into Awo’s game plan. Yoruba opportunism at its highest, period.The Eastern Region led by then Col. Ojukwu as General Ironsi appointed Military Governor on January 17th, 1966 seceded from Nigeria on May 30th, 1967 and Ojukwu became Biafra’s Head of State. “The Ahiara Declaration” a copy of which is in my library as I write was proclaimed on June 1, 1969. It has nothing to do with the Declaration of Biafra on May 30th, 1967. It is a 29 page document that embodies the Principles of the Biafran Revolution enunciated in Mbaise village known as, Ahiara. Hence the sobriquet, “The Ahiara Declaration”.Moving on....You queried:“When Ironsi was Head of State, did Ojukwu defer to him? Or was he fully in charge, away from the superintending control of Gen. Ironsi?”You see, General Ironsi was Col. Ojukwu’s military superior by at least three senior ranks. And Ojukwu’s appointment came from General Ironsi. There was no way that Ojukwu will have failed to defer to General Ironsi as his superior and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces. Anything other than that will have been insubordination which is a serious offence in the military. Besides. Ojukwu was a disciplined military officer given to following the military hierarchical order of command.You further queried:“If Ojukwu deferred to Ironsi as Head of State, why is it difficult to comprehend that, without a coup or mutiny, he could not have refused the superintending control of Gowon?”
Again come with me. Gowon was never Ojukwu’s senior nor superior in the Nigerian Army. In order to maintain military discipline and order across the country, Ojukwu insisted that the next superior in rank to General Ironsi should take over as Nigeria’s Military Head of State. And that man was Brigadier Ogundipe who just because a Northern army sergeant refused his orders and barked back at him, he threw down his pistol, fled and took refuge on one of Nigeria’s Naval Ship. And from there, he fled to London on self-imposed exile. After Brigadier Ogundipe made his dash for refuge and safety in London, the next in lines of succession to General Ironsi were Brigadiers Bassey, Ekpo and Col. Adebayo. The Northern mutineers refused any of them to succeed General Ironsi.Henceforth, indiscipline pervaded the ranks and file of the Nigeria Army; the repercussions of which were the 1966 pogrom against the people of the Eastern Region, particularly the Igbo all over the North; failure to implement an agreed Accord in Aburi, Ghana that was to have averted secession; the Declaration of Biafra; the Federal Government declaration of war and invasion of Biafra. In addition were six more coups two of which failed and four succeeded. Two of the failed coups saw the retributive merciless killings of some of the best military personnel in the Nigeria Army; especially, the failed Dimka coup in which most of the officers and men killed were from the Middle-Belt. Similar killings happened in the failed coup to oust the evil genius, IBB. Also, factor in the military aviation disaster during the same IBB’s regime in which the cream de la crop of the Nigeria Military were killed. And finally, the near “Failure State Status” that Nigeria has remained since those years are all attributable to the break down in discipline and respect for senior ranks which Ojukwu fought very hard to avert.Country man Rotimi, if you really believe in facts, those are the facts which you left out in your piece. Hope you may now revise your priors.Cheers.Mazi KC Prince Asagwara
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Stevek,I read you loud and clear. Matter of history is about exactitude and not to be subjected to conjecture.You and I have found ourselves on the same side with vociferous support for GMB because it is our conviction.I should not be gored into moving with the crowd - as regards an assertion- when the facts of history are clearly against it.Let us chronicle the events:1, As Lt. Col, Ojukwu was CO of the 5th Batallion in Kano before the January 15, 1966 coup.2, After the abortive coup, he was appointed (on 19th January, 1966) military governor of the Eastern region while Major General Ironsi was Head of State.3, On 24th May, 1966, Ironsi government promulgated the Unification decree which effectively removed the nation's federal structure and replaced it with a Unitary structure that effectively made the central government the governing authority over the Nation state with the regions/states as mere appendages!4, On 29th July, 1966, Lt Col Yakubu Gowon became Head of State after a successful counter coup.5, On 3rd August, 1966, Chief Obafemi Awolowo was released from Prison and Gowon, as Head of State, was at the Lagos end to welcome him. Shortly afterwards, he was appointed Federal commissioner for Finance and Vice chair, federal executive council.6, Lt. Col. CO. Ojukwu was Military governor of Eastern region until 27TH MAY, 1967 (with the Ahiala declaration of the republic of Biafra).These are the FACTS.Questions:1, When Ironsi was Head of State, did Ojukwu defer to him? Or was he fully in charge, away from the superintending control of Gen. Ironsi?2, If Ojukwu deferred to Ironsi as Head of State, why is it difficult to comprehend that, without a coup or mutiny, he could not have refused the superintending control of Gowon?CONCLUSION:I tend to believe that it was Gowon who gave the order for Awo's release but Ojukwu facilitated it.Rotimi FashakinOn Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:04 PM, "guka...@comcast.net [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar? Because of the fact that I released him, it created quite a lot of rapport between Awo and myself and I know that before he went back to Ikenne, I set up a hotline between Ikenne and my bedroom in Enugu. He tried like an elder statesman to find a solution. Awolowo is a funny one. Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. So, he said this and I must have made some appropriate responses too. But it didn’t quite work out the way that we both thought. Awolowo, evidently, had a constant review of the Yoruba situation and took different path. That’s it. I don’t blame him for it. I have never done.__._,_.___
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-------- Original message --------From: "Vin Otuonye vincent...@msn.com [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com>Date:09/25/2014 7:23 PM (GMT-08:00)To: "africanworldforum@google" <africanw...@googlegroups.com>,Wilson Iguade <igu...@hotmail.com>Cc: Ezeana Igirigi Achusim <pach...@yahoo.com>,Rex Marinus <rexma...@hotmail.com>,rot...@yahoo.com,NWF <nigerianw...@yahoogroups.com>,"WorldIgb...@yahoogroups.com" <worldigb...@yahoogroups.com>,develop...@googlegroups.com,ogbun...@yahoo.com,Imo Congress <imostate...@yahoogroups.com>,rote...@yahoo.ca,Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com>,Wharfery Snake <wharf...@yahoo.com>,jok...@verizon.net,okonkwonetworks <okonkwo...@googlegroups.com>,ogbuo...@yahoo.com,Esan Forum <esan_co...@yahoogroups.com>Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] RE: Vin: Obi Nwakanma: What to remember: Re: Ojukwu released Awo from PrisonAyo:
> Nwakanma: What to remember: Re: Ojukwu released Awo from
> Prison
> From: igu...@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:22:09 -0500
> To: vincent...@msn.com
> CC: ayooju...@yahoo.com;
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>
> Folks,
> Please read below, I hate to be PLAIN, one of them
> is a LIAR, you be the judge. (Boldfaced
> mine).
> "There was never a time from August 1 1967
> that Ojukwu recognized the authority in Lagos or took
> orders that were effected in the East. This is the crucial
> point." . . . Obi Nwakanma
> VERSUS
> "there was
> never a time after the July 29, 1966 coup that
> Ojukwu recognized the authority in Lagos and took orders
> that were effected in the East." By Vin
> Which is it - August 1st
> 1967Or July 29th, 1966
> Folks, this is why I do not take part in this
> bullshit: Awo/Ojukwu/Zik or happenings of the 1950s/1960s
> Nigeria DEBATE, because one does not know who to trust. Even
> reputable historians are biased given how their perspectives
> are informed.
> God help us. "I"
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:50 PM, "Vin Otuonye" <vincent...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Ayo:
>
> You tire me sef. Gowon is still alive. Do yourself
> a big favor. Go interview Gowon and asked him who
> released Awo. In fact, add this to it: there was never a
> time after the July 29, 1966 coup that Ojukwu
> recognized the authority in Lagos and took orders that were
> effected in the East.
>
> Vin
>
> Date: Thu, 25 Sep
> 2014 23:55:30 +0000
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> Subject: Obi Nwakanma: What to remember: Re: Ojukwu released
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> Subject: RE:
> Stevek: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from
> Prison
>
> Stevek, the late Justice Sowemimo clarified his
> position in a published interview in the late 1980s, on
> what he meant by his hands were tied. He did say that as a
> Judge, the weight of the evidence before him made it
> impossible for him not to dispense justice in spite of
> the caliber of the man before him. He was no
> "apologizing" to Awo, and he was clear on that
> fact; he was simply sorry for Awo. Those are two different
> situations.
>
> And Ayo,
> whether Ojukwu released Awo or not is material at this point
> only as a way of situating the politics of that
> history. You have hinted that Ojukwu would have used
> the occasion for a photo-op. But consider the
> following: that (a) on 3 August 1966, Awo was
> inconsequential to the general thrust of Ojukwu's
> work and the unfolding national event. Awo was not in
> power, and he was at best a factional leader of one of the
> two factions of the political divisions in Western Nigeria.
> The Ladoke Akintola faction, who were the primary targets of
> the Fajuyi regime in Ibadan, and potentially the direct
> beneficiaries of the murder of Fajuyi and naturally
> allies of the July coup would certainly not rejoice at
> that prospect; (b) It was not in Ojukwu's interest
> to make a great show of Awo's release, given
> that every intelligence report available to Gowon and
> the northern political leadership as at that
> period still considered the January 15, 1966 coup an
> Igbo/Yoruba coup (UPGA coup they called it) of which the
> chief beneficiary was to be Awo. In fact, to make a photo-op
> of the event of releasing Awo would have given validity to
> the action of the coup makers, given that Awo's release
> that August violated every reason and the primary mission of
> the July 29 coup from the standpoint of the leaders of that
> coup. In any case, it will be up to you
> to believe either Robert Adeyinka Adebayo or Sam Aluko,
> given the two accounts in which they've alluded to the
> Awo release: one a direct quote (Aluko).
>
> I'd like to revise
> my time-line, for indeed Gown made his first broadcast on
> August 1, 1966 (in which he had made reference to the
> unsustainability of the Nigerian Federation). I did mix up
> the time-line slightly, working from my misreading of
> Peter Enahoro's "Why I Left Nigeria" published
> in the Transition Magazine of 1968. It is true that
> Gowon made a broadcast in the morning of Tuesday
> August 1, the same day Major Ekanem was shot on Carter
> Bridge; in the evening of August 1, Ojukwu countered with a
> broadcast rejecting Gowon's authority. He was in control
> of the East from then on, and the command of the
> Nigerian Army had collapsed. The only power in the East that
> had the authority to release Awo was Ojukwu, because the
> Federal government was in a state of transition; there was
> no government, at least from the point of view of the
> government in the East. This is precisely
> the reason that both sides went to war. There was never a
> time from August 1 1967 that Ojukwu recognized the authority
> in Lagos or took orders that were effected in the East. This
> is the crucial point. But, what the heck, it is unlikely to
> make sense to you.
> Obi Nwakanma
>
>
> Date: Thu, 25
> Sep 2014 12:27:49 +0000
> From: africanw...@googlegroups.com
> To: africanw...@googlegroups.com;
> Subject: Stevek: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu
> released Awo from Prison
>
>
>
> Stevek,
> You started this "Ojukwu released Awo";
> and I asked if you meant it or you were kidding but you did
> not reply. I hope you now know the truth if you did not
> before now. Ayo Ojutalayo
> To: Ezeana Igirigi
> Achusim <pach...@yahoo.com>;
> Sent: Thursday,
> September 25, 2014 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re:
> [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
>
> purposes. Stevek.Washington, DC,
> USA
> A society of supine lambs breeds
> erect wolves. -
> Stevek
> A wise man proportions his
> beliefs to the evidence - David
> Hume
>
> Subject: Re:
> [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
>
> Siro
> Wiwa was not released. If he was, Ayo would not give credit
> to Igbo who could have engineered his release. If Awo was
> not released, Ayo would not have the opportunity to not give
> Igbo the credit.
> I wonder who convicted Awo? Did Ayo
> know where the northerners wanted Awo to serve his sentence
> so they could sock it to him? Did Ayo know that
> Easterners intervened and had Awo serve his sentence
> in the East?
> At
> the time the events were unfolding, no one was thinking
> about Ayo giving credit to Igbo. Betrayal of Igbo by the
> very persons who benefitted from Igbo generosity is not new
> or isolated. Did Aluko not find refuge in Igbo land with his
> family when the SW was unsafe for them? £20 for Igbo
> fortune was a gross betrayal. Leave Ayo alone. Siro Wiwa
> could have been saved. But Igbo did not kill him. Who knows
> what will happen tomorrow. We learn from experience. But it
> is good to be good. If we were to do it again, would Ojukwu
> release Awo? You bet.
>
> And I am
> Ezeana Igirigi
> AchusimOdi-IsaaNwa Dim
> OjutalayoFrom: africanherald via AfricanWorldForum
> take advice/counsel from those in the Know. Take careNwachukwu -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wed, Sep 24, 2014 11:45 am
> Subject: Ojukwu released Awo from
> PrisonAyo:
>
> Please read the interview below Rudolph Okonkwo
> had with Ojukwu in November 2011. Let's tell the truth
> and shame the devil. I wonder what you and Rotimi Fashakin
> have to say now.
>
> Enjoy reading the interview.My Last Interview With Dim
> Chukwuemeka Ojukwu - Rudolf Okonkwo In June of this year, in the midst
> of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu
> Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an
> interview with Ikemba. by SaharaAdminFour
> Nov 26,
> 2011 In June of this
> year,
> in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim
> Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of
> mine proposed an interview with
> Ikemba.He worked to
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1, After the fact of the January 15, 1966, the coup leader, Major Kaduna Chukwuma Nzeogwu had a considerable measure of success in the North. In short, he was firmly in control in the North! But the Coup was not so successful in the South, of course because of the ethnically-biased compromised position of folks like Majors Emmanuel Ifeajuna and Okafor. For about three days, Nzeogwu did not get any meaningful word from his colleagues in the South. Meanwhile, his troops needed food and some necessities. So, he sent some officers to Lt Col. Ojukwu, the CO of 5th Batallion in Kano for assistance. These officers were detained! Promptly, Nzeogwu put together a crack team headed by Major Onwuatuegi to silence the dissent from Kano. It took the intervention of Lt. Col. Alexander Madiebo, an Artillery officer of Igbo extraction, for a major catastrophe to be averted! See, Nzeogwu was a Major and Ojukwu, a Lt. Col., the fact that a Coup had taken place which put Nzeogwu in superintending control of the Army, in the North, everyone needed to defer to him.
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"There was never a time from August 1 1967 that Ojukwu recognized the authority in Lagos or took orders that were effected in the East. This is the crucial point." . . . Obi NwakanmaObi,Just remember the following, and update your History:
- that Gowon effectively took over as Head of State on the 1st of August 1967
- that Awo was released on the 3rd of August 1967
- that a plane went from Lagos (not Enugu) to pick Awo from Calabar federal prison- that Gowon sent despatch riders to bring Awo from the Ikeja Airport
- that the first point of call of Awo in Lagos was Gowon's temporary office at the Ikeja Garrison
- that Awo thanked Gowon for releasing him from prison- that Awo's transportation to Ikenne was arranged by Gowon.I salute you.Ayo Ojutalayo
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Subject: RE: Stevek: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Stevek, the late Justice Sowemimo clarified his position in a published interview in the late 1980s, on what he meant by his hands were tied. He did say that as a Judge, the weight of the evidence before him made it impossible for him not to dispense justice in spite of the caliber of the man before him. He was no "apologizing" to Awo, and he was clear on that fact; he was simply sorry for Awo. Those are two different situations.
And Ayo, whether Ojukwu released Awo or not is material at this point only as a way of situating the politics of that history. You have hinted that Ojukwu would have used the occasion for a photo-op. But consider the following: that (a) on 3 August 1966, Awo was inconsequential to the general thrust of Ojukwu's work and the unfolding national event. Awo was not in power, and he was at best a factional leader of one of the two factions of the political divisions in Western Nigeria. The Ladoke Akintola faction, who were the primary targets of the Fajuyi regime in Ibadan, and potentially the direct beneficiaries of the murder of Fajuyi and naturally allies of the July coup would certainly not rejoice at that prospect; (b) It was not in Ojukwu's interest to make a great show of Awo's release, given that every intelligence report available to Gowon and the northern political leadership as at that period still considered the January 15, 1966 coup an Igbo/Yoruba coup (UPGA coup they called it) of which the chief beneficiary was to be Awo. In fact, to make a photo-op of the event of releasing Awo would have given validity to the action of the coup makers, given that Awo's release that August violated every reason and the primary mission of the July 29 coup from the standpoint of the leaders of that coup. In any case, it will be up to you to believe either Robert Adeyinka Adebayo or Sam Aluko, given the two accounts in which they've alluded to the Awo release: one a direct quote (Aluko).
I'd like to revise my time-line, for indeed Gown made his first broadcast on August 1, 1966 (in which he had made reference to the unsustainability of the Nigerian Federation). I did mix up the time-line slightly, working from my misreading of Peter Enahoro's "Why I Left Nigeria" published in the Transition Magazine of 1968. It is true that Gowon made a broadcast in the morning of Tuesday August 1, the same day Major Ekanem was shot on Carter Bridge; in the evening of August 1, Ojukwu countered with a broadcast rejecting Gowon's authority. He was in control of the East from then on, and the command of the Nigerian Army had collapsed. The only power in the East that had the authority to release Awo was Ojukwu, because the Federal government was in a state of transition; there was no government, at least from the point of view of the government in the East. This is precisely the reason that both sides went to war. There was never a time from August 1 1967 that Ojukwu recognized the authority in Lagos or took orders that were effected in the East. This is the crucial point. But, what the heck, it is unlikely to make sense to you.
Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Stevek: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Stevek,You started this "Ojukwu released Awo"; and I asked if you meant it or you were kidding but you did not reply. I hope you now know the truth if you did not before now.
Ayo Ojutalayo
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Awolowo was convicted by a Yorubaman, Hon. Justice Sodeinde Sowemimo, in 1963, who apologized to Awolowo during the sentencing that his hands were tied.
To show his own travails during the trial, he wrote a book titled, 'My Lord, What a Morning' after a Christian hymn that had the following refrain and words after the trial ended:My Lord, what a morning!
My Lord, what a morning!
O my Lord, what a morning!
When the stars begin to fall.1 You will hear the trumpet sound,
To wake the nations underground,
Looking to my God’s right hand,
When the stars begin to fall.2 You will hear the sinner cry,
To wake the nations underground,
Looking to my God’s right hand,
When the stars begin to fall.3 You will hear the Christian shout,
To wake the nations underground,
Looking to my God’s right hand,
When the stars begin to fall.From the lyrics, one can glean that sentencing Awolowo to 10 years that day was very traumatic to Hon. Justice Sowemimo and against his will. That means he was toio much of a good jurist to ignore the overwhelming evidence or he was doing the will of a more powerful force that wanted to see Awo jailed.If the reason was because of the compelling powerful force, then all should understand Awolowo's starge behavior after release from prison because the same compelling force was there; only this time, it was even more compelling because it had guns and freedom to kill!The story of the Nigerian Civil War is a lot more complicated than the Ayos - on one side, and the Ezeana's - on the other side make it appear to suit their own narrow purposes.
Stevek.Washington, DC, USA
A society of supine lambs breeds erect wolves. - StevekA wise man proportions his beliefs to the evidence - David Hume
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Siro Wiwa was not released. If he was, Ayo would not give credit to Igbo who could have engineered his release. If Awo was not released, Ayo would not have the opportunity to not give Igbo the credit.I wonder who convicted Awo? Did Ayo know where the northerners wanted Awo to serve his sentence so they could sock it to him? Did Ayo know that Easterners intervened and had Awo serve his sentence in the East?
At the time the events were unfolding, no one was thinking about Ayo giving credit to Igbo. Betrayal of Igbo by the very persons who benefitted from Igbo generosity is not new or isolated. Did Aluko not find refuge in Igbo land with his family when the SW was unsafe for them? £20 for Igbo fortune was a gross betrayal. Leave Ayo alone. Siro Wiwa could have been saved. But Igbo did not kill him. Who knows what will happen tomorrow. We learn from experience. But it is good to be good. If we were to do it again, would Ojukwu release Awo? You bet.And I amEzeana Igirigi AchusimOdi-IsaaNwa Dim Orioha
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Common sense tells us that Awo would visit first, the person that released him. AyoTo get Ikeja, Awo must first get out of the Eastern Region.Awo can’t get out of Eastern Nigeria without Ojukwu’s formal release and permission to travel—that’s what common sense says, not the gibberish in red above.To get out of prison and fly out of Eastern Region, Ojukwu must approve.This is getting silly and foolish.(I think Ojukwu and Awo met in Calabar prison before the release, I’m not sure but will check into it)*ezekwe*From: africanw...@googlegroups.com [mailto:africanw...@googlegroups.com]
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Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
Nwachukwu,That Ojukwu said he released Awo does not mean that he released Awo. Common sense tells us that Awo would visit first, the person that released him. That was why Awo went to Ikeja to meet with Gowon, and NOT to Enugu to meet with Ojukwu. Gowon released Awo, and sent a plane to bring him to Ikeja Garrison.Ayo Ojutalayo
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Subject: [africanworldforum] Ojukwu released Awo from Prison
"OJUKWU: We’ve said this over and over again, so many times, and people don’t understand; they don’t want to actually. If you remember, I released Awolowo from jail. Even that, some people are beginning to contest as well. Awo was in jail in Calabar. Gowon knows and the whole of the federal establishment knows that at no point was Gowon in charge of the East. The East took orders from me. Now, how could Gowon have released Awolowo who was in Calabar? Because of the fact that I released him, it created quite a lot of rapport between Awo and myself and I know that before he went back to Ikenne, I set up a hotline between Ikenne and my bedroom in Enugu. He tried like an elder statesman to find a solution. Awolowo is a funny one. Don’t forget that the political purpose of the coup, the Ifeajuna coup that began all this, was to hand power over to Awo. We young men respected him a great deal. He was a hero. I thought he was a hero and certainly I received him when I was governor. We talked and he was very vehement when he saw our complaints and he said that if the Igbos were forced out by Nigeria that he would take the Yorubas out also. I don’t know what anybody makes of that statement but it is simple. Whether he did or didn’t, it is too late. There is nothing you can do about it. So, he said this and I must have made some appropriate responses too. But it didn’t quite work out the way that we both thought. Awolowo, evidently, had a constant review of the Yoruba situation and took different path. That’s it. I don’t blame him for it. I have never done," Rudolf Okonkwo.Thanks Vin. I hope this would rest Ayo's hallucination and revision of history. I had wanted to redirect him early, but I thought it unnecessary as he doesn't want to learn the truth or take advice/counsel from those in the Know.Take careNwachukwu
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Ayo:
Please read the interview below Rudolph Okonkwo had with Ojukwu in November 2011. Let's tell the truth and shame the devil. I wonder what you and Rotimi Fashakin have to say now.
Enjoy reading the interview.My Last Interview With Dim Chukwuemeka Ojukwu - Rudolf Okonkwo
In June of this year, in the midst of the controversies surrounding Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu’s health, a contact of mine proposed an interview with Ikemba.
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Willie sef
You just wrote a song and forgot to add:
Who makes all the children in the world? Ans. Igbo.
Who is God? Ans. Igbo.
I think this thread is out living it's historical value.
Can we take a short break and come back whenever OBJ joins Ojukwu and Adekunle and Awo or we better send Ayo over there , the current residence of Awo, to record their voices and opinions on who took Awo out of jail.
Jerome Iyang Yakubu Gowon will give him an express visa and ticket for the journey.
I hereby withdraw my posting in which I had declared Awo an ingrate for biting the fingers that fed him. In that posting, I declared that Ojukwu released Awo from prison. Ayo said I was wrong.
You can see Willie that this Igbo thing is infectious. While praising you for your lyrics , I found myself proving you right. Why do Nigeria had to wait for Igbos to be the pathfinders of everything you enumerated? I think all Nigerians are Igbo too because some things you did not mention , corruption for instance ,is not an Igbo invention but can be ascribed to them because they are the grand parents of other Nigerians that loot. Wha o!
Hope you caught the jokes.
Here is an epilog on these rants:
Jerome Yakubu of Mahwah, has some extra Viagra and some cialis. He is ready to ship on demand. I hereby recommend he ships 7 tabs of Viagra each to Afis and Ayo and Ola, and 2 to Nebu. Let them try them and report back to us. Will caution them to try something different if they have had history of chest pain or use meds that prevent chest pain . Or if they weigh over 170 lbs respectively.
Got to go and enjoy your day.
Dan
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Bro Wilson,You had won an oscar award for the best comedy in this fora. Your ward will be a bottle of Moët or any red wine of your choice.I am proud to support your fictional utopian outlay as articulated below whether true or false that an Igbo invented everything inventible in Nigeria prior to 1966 and even now.I always argue with my daughter that the Yorubas are more educated and progressive than Igbos. I will with bold face say hell no. She gave me some statistics based on her experience at university of Maryland college park? So, our children knows the fact with statistics but we the older men try to muffled the truth from them. Sometimes, I may argue that they be the first but with time, we will exceed them and take over and ran with it. None made sense to her.Igbo man will never be second regardless, I will tell her and this is final.I believe in Igboness as superior being to the core. My opinion and only my humble self. It makes our life easy to some extend.Life is good if you take it easy
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Okpia Chuks, Emeka Ugwuonye, Esq., and Oderaigbo are the only TRUE defender of Igbo nation I would yield to, period!
Okpia Chuks,Okay, no problem. We good our "bond" is deep and goes a long way now for many many years. Okpia Chuks and Oderaigbo are the only TRUE defender of Igbo nation I would yield to, period!I get your point. Now, if you can do me a favor and advise Chief Ezeana that his postings are not ehancing the Igbo BRAND because he just does not know how to PROMOTE or FIGHT for Ndigbo cause.Thank you, Okpia Chuks. God bless. Iguade
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:12 PM, "'Ezeana Igirigi Achusim' via OkonkwoNetworks" <okonkwo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Okpia Iguade:I am still waiting for your proof that Jesus is not Igbo. You raised the issue, and I hope you have not abandoned the issue. You are free to consult the Pope to come up with any proof that Jesus is not Igbo.
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:15 PM, "'Chukwuma S. Agwunobi' agw...@yahoo.com [NIgerianWorldForum]" <NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Okpia Iguade:
Ya gbu zee, zee. Oh boy, you need to chill out now. Abeg step on your brake a bit because you are driving at 100 MPH on a Speed Zone of 45 MPH.
I am telling you this because Igbos has a say that goes like this "Ana Eti Ishi, Anya nebe" [When dem dey beat the Head, na eyes dey cry and drop tears.I think you got my drift. You and STEVEK are from old Mid-Western Region but it seems that whenever the Ngbati, Ngbati people descends on you guys, you will turn your focus on the Igbos.You know that I am a Mid-Western and Ngbati guys like you too.You have to understand what Igbos are talking about when they sound like they are bragging that they are the best in Nigeria.I want you, Stevek, Otulugbeke and Okpia Ewaen, the three old Mid-Westerners to tell me which part of Nigeria that fought a war and came out of with empty handed and recorded fantastic and astonishing grades in their exams within 6 months? Igbos blasted their exams in 1970, the same the war ended.In WAEC/GCE O/Level, many of them got Grades I Distinctions, that is aggregate 6-12In TCII-Teachers Grade II Certificate with Distinctions and Upper CreditsIn City & Guilds of London Part I, II, III to Full Technological Certificate with Distinctions and Upper CreditsIn HSC/GCE A/Level, they made it at Principals level. That is clearing 5-6 papers with A’s & B’sIn their Degrees, with 1st Class and 2nd Classes 2-1/2-2In NCE, OND/HND with Distinctions and Upper CreditsI wouldn’t talk about the Professional License Certificates like ACCA, ICAN, Chartered Engineer, Medicine? My of them cleared it. It is only the hard working people across the Niger that did this 6 months after the war.If you are doubting me, just take a look at the Ngbati, Ngbati owambe people. They are now behind Zamfara, Gombe, Niger, Kebbi, Jigawa even Farufaru people in education because they are confused and disorganized baggars since after June 12th. Their brains to read are no more the same since then. All that is in brains are Owambe, Emu, Amala, Sugar Mummies and Iya Fisi.But that wasn’t the case with Igbos after the war.Okay, tell me how many Hausa/Fulani person that schooled in South and got the grades I mentioned above? Tell me how many Ngbati, Ngbati person schooled in UNN and 1st Class and 2nd Classes 2-1. Distinctions and Upper Credits in 1970? But Igbos did it at ABU, Kaduna Poly, UI, UNIFE, UNILAG, Yabatech and Adeyemi College of Education.Igbo ladies are not left behind on all these. They told their men that they are not pushovers on this. Go to College of Education, Abraka, Edo College, Hussey College, SPC, Government College, Idia College, Maria Goretti and see or read the havoc Igbo guys and ladies did in their various exams.That was why the Ngbati, Ngbati Press wrote that the core Igbos did fight the war and that they were reading while the minorities fought the war. I don’t blame them, I will say the same. When that didn’t fly, they shout, Olunwu Oba, awon Igbos, wan gbe Udu, expo. Can you imagine Bolekaja Aluko giving an Igbo person Ist Class or Grade I?How sad or shameful to see Igbos leaving the Examination hall of 3 hours in just 1 hour 45 minutes and watching other Nigerians turning their heads in wonderment whether these baggars across the Niger has Magnetic brains.Oh Boy, Iguade, let me talk like crying General Diya, “Why me no go cry” is replaced with why me no brag and make inyanga as Igbo guys sef” to see my people disgracing the nonsense the Ngbati, Ngbati Examiners that dominated the Examination Boards dumped on their faces.Okpia Iguade, believe me, when these results was blasting the Nigerian Newspaper, there was a stampede by many Nigerian ladies to go marry Igbo guys so that they can give them belle to have Hot brain children like Igbos. At a point, Igbo ladies became jealous as they saw it marriage drain that they will ran out of their men to marry.My targets was mainly the Ngbati, Urohobos, BINIS and Esans ladies because of the landed properties in Lagos, Warri, Benin, Ubiaja and Uromi. So go to Okumagba Layout in Warri, GRA Benin, and Sacred Heart, Ubiaja and Ewohimi Road, Uromi, you will see my lands I got through Awufu from ladies from these tribes. Okpia Ewaen know my lands in Benin and he is the caretaker there.Oh Boy, chill out and stop all these trashing of Igbos. I will be at pain to see them respond and attack you. I wouldn't say anything no matter what you write about Igbos, but I will feel it if they attack you viciously. You cannot be writing and trashing them like that without them responding to you in likewise manner.And with this, I rest my case
Chukwuma "Vicious Animal" Agwunobi
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