Enticement and restriction
niko...@hotmail.com
Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause
your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your
minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn.
[SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool.
Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have?
If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this
restriction.
Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for
all of them:
Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V]
Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the
remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If
that action is successful, annabelle untaps.
(doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
Tajdid, Master, Assamite, R2 , [FN:R2]
Master. For the remainder of the game, the Blood Curse no longer
prevents Assamites from committing diablerie. Only one Tajdid can be
played in a game.
(dont know about this)
Psychic Veil, Action, 1 blood, Obfuscate, R , [Jyhad:R, V:TES:R,
CE:R/PM]
[obf] All of your vampires` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. [OBF]
All of your minions` actions are at +1 stealth this turn.
(doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
niko...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2]
> Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause
> your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your
> minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn.
> [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool.
>
> Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have?
> If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
> sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this
> restriction.
>
By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the
duration that you control them.
>
> Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for
> all of them:
>
>
> Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V]
> Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the
> remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If
> that action is successful, annabelle untaps.
> (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
>
Affects all Toreador, even those that were not in play or were not
Toreador.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4d6567577706e17b?dmode=source
>
> Tajdid, Master, Assamite, R2 , [FN:R2]
> Master. For the remainder of the game, the Blood Curse no longer
> prevents Assamites from committing diablerie. Only one Tajdid can be
> played in a game.
> (dont know about this)
Affects all Assamites, even those that were not in play.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/80180bc36e7964bc?dmode=source
>
> Psychic Veil, Action, 1 blood, Obfuscate, R , [Jyhad:R, V:TES:R,
> CE:R/PM]
> [obf] All of your vampires` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. [OBF]
> All of your minions` actions are at +1 stealth this turn.
> (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
By extrapolation, it affects all minions that turn while you control
those minions.
--
- Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
LSJ
> Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2]
> Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause
> your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your
> minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn.
> [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool.
>
> Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have?
No.
> If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
> sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this
> restriction.
Being "your minion", it is "targeted" by the lingering effect.
> Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for
> all of them:
>
> Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V]
> Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the
> remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If
> that action is successful, annabelle untaps.
> (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
Does.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4d6567577706e17b
> Tajdid, Master, Assamite, R2 , [FN:R2]
> Master. For the remainder of the game, the Blood Curse no longer
> prevents Assamites from committing diablerie. Only one Tajdid can be
> played in a game.
> (dont know about this)
Similar.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/80180bc36e7964bc
> Psychic Veil, Action, 1 blood, Obfuscate, R , [Jyhad:R, V:TES:R,
> CE:R/PM]
> [obf] All of your vampires` actions are at +1 stealth this turn. [OBF]
> All of your minions` actions are at +1 stealth this turn.
> (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
It does. No previous ruling on that card specifically, AFAIK.
Red Herring's restriction would be handled similarly.
Similarly, Psychic Projection would give a subsequently-influenced
vampire +1 intercept.
See also Protected Resources (burned if a minion you later bring out
bleeds).
niko...@hotmail.com
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote:
> niko...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2]
> > Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause
> > your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your
> > minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn.
> > [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool.
> >
> > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have?
> > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
> > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this
> > restriction.
> >
>
> By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the
> duration that you control them.
Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by extrapolation, and I just
realised it was three questions... :)
If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
soul gem, can that minion bleed then?
(just want to be 100% certain)
> >
> > Some other cards with similar effects where I dont know the rules for
> > all of them:
> >
> >
> > Annabelle Triabell, 9, dom for AUS CEL PRE, Toreador, 3, [CE:V]
> > Camarilla Primogen: Annabelle can give all Toreador +1 bleed for the
> > remainder of the turn as a +1 stealth action that costs 1 blood. If
> > that action is successful, annabelle untaps.
> > (doesnt affect minions entering play afterwards afaik)
> >
>
> Affects all Toreador, even those that were not in play or were not
> Toreador.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/4d6567577706e17b?dmode=source
>
Ok, thought I read somewhere that her special wouldnt work in a turbo
deck with her. She uses her action, untap, calls a vote to get +1 cap,
awe, force of will and burns. I didnt think her special carried over to
the next copy of Annabelle, but apparently it does. Cool
LSJ
> Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote:
> > niko...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have?
> > > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
> > > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this
> > > restriction.
> > >
> >
> > By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the
> > duration that you control them.
>
> Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by extrapolation, and I just
> realised it was three questions... :)
> If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
> soul gem, can that minion bleed then?
No.
Gregory Stuart Pettigrew
nikol...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Gregory Stuart Pettigrew wrote:
> > niko...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Enticement, Action, Serpentis, C2 , [FN:C2]
> > > Only usable if you control the Edge. [ser] (D) Burn the Edge to cause
> > > your prey to burn 2 pool. (This action is directed at your prey.) Your
> > > minions cannot attempt bleed actions for the remainder of the turn.
> > > [SER] As above, but your prey burns 3 pool.
> > >
> > > Does the restriction refer to the minions you *currently* have?
> > > If I get another minion after having played enticement, lets say with
> > > sould gem, can that minion bleed then? It wasnt "targeted" by this
> > > restriction.
> > >
> >
> > By extrapolation, no. It affects all minions that turn, for the
> > duration that you control them.
>
> Sorry, I dont understand what you mean by extrapolation, and I just
> realised it was three questions... :)
"extrapolation": to infer, conjecture, or estimate. Similar cards work
in similar ways, so we can assume it works like them. I probably should
have moved that card down, to go after the cards with rulings.
niko...@hotmail.com
Thanks, both of you!