Any suggestions on a property issue?

[Gunner Asch]

https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#

My house..and the empty lot next door.

I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.

However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
said.

Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
as the photos show.

She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
off the lot.

Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
forklift.

I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
Im working on it..but need 30 days.

Now what are my options?

California of course.

In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.
Raid® to a cockroach.
Sheriff Brody to a shark
Bush to a Liberal

The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
dick as a brake.

They HATE the truth."

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 4:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
> street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
> made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
> it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
> said.
>
> Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
> inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
> are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
> them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
> mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
> as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
> permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
> me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
> else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
> off the lot.
>
> Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
> forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
> forklift.

Why don't you move it with the backhoe, fuckstain?

How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
money, fuckstain?

> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>
> Now what are my options?

I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.

[Frank]

Place does look like a dump.

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 4:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#

One of the pics:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#5880566556315784290

Caption: "View down the alley from the street. My property line is at
the white fence. The slum next to it belongs to latinos..who dont live
there." It is indistinguishable from your slum lot, gummer...you stupid
pendejo.

[A trout in the milk]

It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.

[CS]

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#

My house..and the empty lot next door.

<snip>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When you talk to the supervisor, if they aren't agreeable to 30 days,
request they cite the section of the municipal code you are supposedly
violating. Actually, ask they cite it anyway, so that you can make sure you
don't violate it again.

In reality, if they can't cite it, they can't enforce it.

Also, see if there's a way you can get a permit for it.

If none of that works, you may be able to file a complaint for selective
enforcement. You can take snapshots of the neighborhood, as well as
printouts of Google Maps, to support your claim.

You really don't want to go to war with the county. You will lose.
However, government worker types tend to be a bit paranoid about their jobs,
and if their boss gets annoyed over their actions, those actions will stop.
After all, they're pretty much just there for a paycheck, and don't care one
wit about your container. The last thing they want to do is more work.

Last resort, go to court and file a request for a stay of action. It
shouldn't be too much trouble requesting a fee waiver.

Second last resort, cover it with tarps and call it an RV. If they come on
to your property and look under the tarps without your permission, you'll
have cause for a civil rights lawsuit, after which you can buy half the
county.

Good luck!

CS

[deep]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Is anyone shocked that all of Gummer's neigbors hate him?

[Howard Beal]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
>

What is the property zoned for ?
Residential?
Mixed use?
Agricultural?
Industrial?
Commercial?

Best Regards
Tom.

[Gunner Asch]

Ever try to move stuff out of a 25' cargo container with a backhoe?

Oh...of course you havent. You cant even make it up the stairs to the
ground floor of your momma house.

>
>How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>money, fuckstain?

What...you never heard of time payments? Oh of course you havent. You
cant make such for HoHos and Dr Pepper can you, jizzlips.

>
>
>
>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>
>> Now what are my options?
>
>I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.

If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative. Chuckle..thats
never going to happen..is it jizzlips?

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

Of course it does. Live rural do you? Of course you do.

Laugh laugh laugh!

[Gunner Asch]

>>> RaidŽ to a cockroach.

>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>
>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>> dick as a brake.
>>>
>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Place does look like a dump.
>
>It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.

The opinion of a basement dweller..is noted with great amusement.

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

?Que, puto?

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[deep]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:14:24 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I live in the country and it doesn't look like the shithole Gummer
has.


>Laugh laugh laugh!

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:32:23 -0700, "CS" <dont...@sears.com> wrote:

>"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
>news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
>
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
><snip>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>When you talk to the supervisor, if they aren't agreeable to 30 days,
>request they cite the section of the municipal code you are supposedly
>violating. Actually, ask they cite it anyway, so that you can make sure you
>don't violate it again.

The code they gave me was "dumping trash"..and its obviously not
trash. They use it evidently as a catch all.
>

Its an unencorporated county area...."nominally" zoned R-1..but has
had many construction companies and oil field maint companies so on
based out of "residential" lots. My area of town was once privately
owned by a trust ..and it desolved about 8-10 yrs ago. Some of the
lots were sold to the home owners...others..were sold out from under
them.

>In reality, if they can't cite it, they can't enforce it.
>
>Also, see if there's a way you can get a permit for it.

Im going to investigate that.

>
>If none of that works, you may be able to file a complaint for selective
>enforcement. You can take snapshots of the neighborhood, as well as
>printouts of Google Maps, to support your claim.

I may have to do that. She (inspector) claims to have 300+ issues for
those around the area...backlogged and trying to look good for her
boss. Ive tried to work nicely with her and have been eversohelpful.

>
>You really don't want to go to war with the county. You will lose.
>However, government worker types tend to be a bit paranoid about their jobs,
>and if their boss gets annoyed over their actions, those actions will stop.
>After all, they're pretty much just there for a paycheck, and don't care one
>wit about your container. The last thing they want to do is more work.
>
>Last resort, go to court and file a request for a stay of action. It
>shouldn't be too much trouble requesting a fee waiver.
>
>Second last resort, cover it with tarps and call it an RV. If they come on
>to your property and look under the tarps without your permission, you'll
>have cause for a civil rights lawsuit, after which you can buy half the
>county.
>
>Good luck!
>
>CS
>

So what do I do if I get cited for "illegal dumping"?

Lawyers cost money.

[A trout in the milk]

Ooopsie! You didn't say you were trying to move "stuff" (worthless
shit) *out* of the container, congenital liar - you said you were trying
to move the container itself.

>>
>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>> money, fuckstain?
>
> What...you never heard of time payments?

You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?

No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
for it, too.

>>
>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>
>>> Now what are my options?
>>
>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>
> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.

If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
any of those, gummer.

[A trout in the milk]

Right: you're a neighbor.

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>

>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>My house..and the empty lot next door.
>
> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.

What are you going to use for money? Why would you be buying a lot
that you insisted you already owned?

"the empty lot I own to the left." "Im going to put up a
30x50 steel building on the empty lot to the left of the house."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/msg/745fd34b5e5a19a9

"the other two lots that I own..right next to mine..and behind mine."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.econ/msg/01785581c332e034

How fucking ridiculous.

> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
>street over a dog issue..

Gosh, what a shock that a neighbor would be pissed about your herd of
barking dogs!

>that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
>made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
>it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
>said.
>
>Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county.

No, not suddenly. Just typical slow as molasses county workers. Maybe
they could afford to hire more energetic people if deadbeats like you
would pay their damned taxes.

> New lady
>inspector..who has little empathy.

Maybe she looked up your name in their records, and found out about
all the liens her employer has been slapping on you, and how few
you've paid over the last 3 decades.

Maybe she Googled your name. http://tinyurl.com/op5nlcz And found out
that you're a pathological liar and correctly assumed that anything
you told her was horseshit. Ya think?

> She claims that cargo containers
>are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
>them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
>mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
>as the photos show.
>
> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
>permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies

Bwahahahaha! Aren't these the deputies you claim to be on great terms
with, used to be one of for 8 years, have over for dinner all the
time, etc, and who you've repeatedly insisted will be pitching in on
the great cull? I guess these two were leftist outliers eh Gunner? Did
you tell them you were going to add their names to your death list?

> and advises
>me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
>else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
>off the lot.
>
>Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
>forklift is still down,

No problem, use the backhoe you just finished claiming you have all
fueled up!

> Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
>forklift.

... yet you claim to be negotiating to buy the property!

>I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>Im working on it..but need 30 days.

Hmm, 30 days at $75 per hour. That forklift must need a lot of work!
arf arf

>Now what are my options?

Build a time machine, go back a couple decades, quit hoarding dogs and
crap. If that doesn't work, then quit lying and maybe somebody will
take pity on you.

>California of course.
>
>In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
>Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.

How many times have you claimed to be living in the ideal rightard
area? OK then, put your story on Kickstarter and watch all the funding
pour in from those great neighbors!

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 5:14 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

>>>> Raid� to a cockroach.

>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>
>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>
>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>
>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>
> The opinion of

No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
dole-scrounging shitbag.

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:29:12 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Lawyers cost money.

Not according to you. You claimed to have one who's a friend who'll
work for free. Why are you wasting time here when you could be calling
him? LOL

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 5:32 PM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 16:11:57 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>
>> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>>
>> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>
> What are you going to use for money? Why would you be buying a lot
> that you insisted you already owned?
>
> "the empty lot I own to the left." "Im going to put up a
> 30x50 steel building on the empty lot to the left of the house."
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/msg/745fd34b5e5a19a9
>
> "the other two lots that I own..right next to mine..and behind mine."
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.econ/msg/01785581c332e034
>
> How fucking ridiculous.

Haw haw haw haw haw! That's excellent!

[Michael A. Terrell]

Call a TV station and ask for their investigative TV reporter. The
best way to fight petty bureaucrats is to publicly embarrass them.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:03:44 -0700, "Howard Beal" <H.b...@network.com>
wrote:

For years it has been mixed use in practice. Evidently its now...for
some reason..R-1

>Residential?
>Mixed use?
>Agricultural?
>Industrial?
>Commercial?
>
>Best Regards
>Tom.
>
>

[Gunner Asch]

>>>> RaidŽ to a cockroach.

>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>
>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>
>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>
>> Of course it does.
>
>Right: you're a neighbor.

So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
deep it will dig?

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[A trout in the milk]

Ha ha ha ha ha! You stupid fuckwit - it has *always* been R1, it's just
that the county figures you junk collectors illegally have to put all
your shit somewhere, and they couldn't be bothered.

[A trout in the milk]

>>>>> Raid� to a cockroach.

>>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>
>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>
>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>
>>> Of course it does.
>>
>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>
> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
> deep it will dig?

You don't have a backhoe.

Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
and take some pictures to prove it.

[Paul K. Dickman]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g4vnp81742jnk5dkn...@4ax.com...
>

First off, stop freaking out. The worst they can do is fine you,

I am not sure how the procedure is in your neck of the woods, but once they
write you a citation, you get a court date.

Do what you can, if anything requires a permit put in an application right
now.
You have to make some real progress. Call a scrapper and sell by the pound.

When the court date comes have plenty of evidence that shows real progress,
and ask for an extension.
But take two warnings. Do not try to bullshit them, everyone tries and they
expect it. They are more receptive to a straight answer. And realize that
they will make you do it eventually. The fines keep adding up until the
liens on your property is more than it is worth.

Oh, and clean up your neighbors lot first.
Permission or not, your junk has put him in a trick bag.

Paul K. Dickman

[BottleBob]

> Gunner

Gunner:

The California Department of Veterans Affairs might, or might not, have a suggestion:

http://www.calvet.ca.gov/VetServices/Housing.aspx

Veterans Crisis Line - 1-800-273-8255 press 1

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

[A trout in the milk]

Which he won't pay, anyway...

> I am not sure how the procedure is in your neck of the woods, but once they
> write you a citation, you get a court date.
>
> Do what you can, if anything requires a permit put in an application right
> now.
> You have to make some real progress. Call a scrapper and sell by the pound.
>
> When the court date comes have plenty of evidence that shows real progress,
> and ask for an extension.
> But take two warnings. Do not try to bullshit them, everyone tries and they
> expect it.

Okay, move on to the second warning. gummer is a born bullshitter -
it's what he does more than anything, and it's his first resort.

> They are more receptive to a straight answer. And realize that
> they will make you do it eventually. The fines keep adding up until the
> liens on your property is more than it is worth.

That's probably already the case. gummer has tax liens going back years.

[A trout in the milk]

Ha ha ha ha ha! That's fucking hilarious!

Don't you wish you had that DD 214 about now, gummer? HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
<jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:


>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>
>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>
>> The opinion of
>
>No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>dole-scrounging shitbag.

What photos did you post?

You mean you posted photos like these?

https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#


Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.

Ill glady look at them again.

Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Howard Beal]

"Gunner Asch" <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:7o6op8pfl05aph01t...@4ax.com...

Looks like they gotcha over a barrel unless you move that container
overnight. Did they serve you with any paperwork? Here in nevada
they have to serve you with an official notice stating the ordenance
number you violated in wrighting stating you have xx days to clean
up the property. If you don't comply the cleaning crew shows up
and does its thing, then they put a lein on the property to make shure
they collect with interest.

Best Regards
Tom.

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 6:42 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>
>>> The opinion of
>>
>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
> What photos did you post?

The ones I took of your shithole a couple of years ago on an earlier
drive-by.

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:04:23 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>
>> The code they gave me was "dumping trash"..and its obviously not
>> trash. They use it evidently as a catch all.

> Call a TV station and ask for their investigative TV reporter. The
>best way to fight petty bureaucrats is to publicly embarrass them.

LOL That's a GREAT idea, because the reporter will never report that
trash dumper Gunner hasn't been paying his taxes for decades.

[yesit'sashithole]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
><jonbanqüeer@yähoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>
>>> The opinion of
>>
>>No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>dole-scrounging shitbag.
>
>What photos did you post?
>
>You mean you posted photos like these?
>
>https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>
>
>Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.

It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.

[Gunner Asch]

Worthless stuff? Cites? Be specific. What is your estimate of a
5x10 Brunswick "Admiral" snooker table, with new felt, new pockets,
snooker and 8 ball sets, etc etc?

Tig welder? Airco 250 Squarewave, on a custom cart, with Bernard
water chiller, new WP 120 torch and all the accessories? How much is
it worth? Lets see if you know anything.

220/440 3ph transformers...45kva What are they worth?

Victor copy of the Hardinge DV-59, complete and tuned. Turret, cross
slide, coolant and 100 lbs ot tooling for it? Nice paint too. How
much?

Oster pipe threader on cart, with all dies from 1/4-20 -3" pipe? Gimme
your best price estimate.

Airco PhaseArch 350 Mig, complete and ready to go, in nice cosmetic
condition...but its 3ph. Whats it worth? Hummm?

All that and more are in that container. Along with a years supply of
oats/rice/dried beans, 250 lbs of canned salt, 20 lbs of pepper etc
etc ...all in #10 cans from an LDS cannery. Probably 150 cans in
crates. Best estimate is? Do try your best jizzlips. Please.

>
>>>
>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>> money, fuckstain?
>>
>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>
>You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?

Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.

>
>No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>for it, too.

Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes. You do have some issues dont
you?

You must be jealous....you dont own anything..your momma does. No
wonder. She is afraid you would piss it all away on video games and
drugs..oh..and a truckload of DingDongs and cases of Dr Pepper. And a
couple cases of adult diapers.

>
>
>>>
>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>
>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>
>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>
>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>
>If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>any of those, gummer.

Your fantasy world is rich and interesting. So..how long have you been
off your meds? You started trolling around here about a year or so
ago...so we know its been that long at least. Or you found a happy
home here.....<VBG>. So tell me..whats it like to be a masochist of
your particular stripe? Ive never met one quite like you before. Id
like to pick your brain. And Ill supply the pick.

So when are you coming over to visit? We can discuss all manner of
interesting things. Dirt...that would be a nice deep subject to
discuss. Gritty.

When can I expect you?

[A trout in the milk]

a) it's your stuff
b) it's in a rusting container on a vacant lot
c) ...in Taft

It's worthless shit.

>>>>
>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>
>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>
>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>
> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.

You can't transfer the land without paying something to record the deed.
Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
payments."

>>
>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>> for it, too.
>
> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.

No, gummer, you're not - there are several thousand dollars of unpaid
taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H

>>>>
>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>
>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>
>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>
>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>> any of those, gummer.
>
> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.

There's not fantasy, gummer - I described you with great accuracy.

> So..how long have you been off your meds?

stale, gummer - very stale and unimaginative.

> You started trolling around here about a year or so
> ago...so we know its been that long at least.

It's been more like eight years, gummer.

> When can I expect you?

Oh, one of these days, gummer - one of these days.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

Taft might be a "shithole" but from the pictures, Gunner's little
"dump" looks better maintained and neater than his surroundings.

[A trout in the milk]

It isn't. I've driven by it. It really is a shithole - dead vehicles
in the front yard, a leaky boat that hasn't been moved in years, weeds.
Don't forget the inch-wide cracks in the street up and down the block.

[Ignoramus30957]

Gunner, if you do not know the law and cannot afford lawyers, you
cannot fight this. I suggest to comply. I would move what I can to my
property, and call in scrappers and get as much scrap value as
possible in exchange for speedy removal.

Scrappers, like vultures, like those forced divestiture situations.

i

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 7:28 PM, Ignoramus30957 wrote:
> Gunner, if you do not know the law and cannot afford lawyers, you
> cannot fight this. I suggest to comply. I would move what I can to my
> property, and call in scrappers and get as much scrap value as
> possible in exchange for speedy removal.

Pretty good advice. That's why gummer won't follow it.

>
> Scrappers, like vultures, like those forced divestiture situations.

How do you think gummer came by all this shit in the first place?

[Ignoramus30957]

He probably exchanged favors with friends.

Weird things happen in forced divestitures. I heard about one company
gifting all its equipment to someone for free.

i

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

The cracks in the street are not his doing or his problem. That's
just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.

[deep]

So like Milky Trout said, he lives in a shithole.

[A trout in the milk]

In a way, they are. The fact that the entire block is full of dole
scroungers like him, who don't do anything to maintain their properties,
is why the county won't keep the street in better condition.


> That's just Taft.

Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.

[Gunner Asch]

>>>>>> RaidŽ to a cockroach.

>>>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>
>>>> Of course it does.
>>>
>>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>>
>> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>> deep it will dig?
>
>You don't have a backhoe.
>
>Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
>and take some pictures to prove it.

So you lied when you stated clearly..you lived here.

Why am I not surprised.

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

RaidŽ to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

Thats the only issue..the cargo container on his property.

[Gunner Asch]

So you didnt look at the ones I just posted? Now..cites for the
previous photos? Place hasnt changed any in hummm 12 yrs. Palm tree
is taller ...about all.

Now where are they?

[A trout in the milk]

>>>>>>> Raidïŋ― to a cockroach.

>>>>>>> Sheriff Brody to a shark
>>>>>>> Bush to a Liberal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
>>>>>>> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
>>>>>>> dick as a brake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They HATE the truth."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it does.
>>>>
>>>> Right: you're a neighbor.
>>>
>>> So why not come on over and we can check out the backhoe and see how
>>> deep it will dig?
>>
>> You don't have a backhoe.
>>
>> Maybe the next time I'm driving to northern California, I'll swing by
>> and take some pictures to prove it.
>
> So you lied when you stated clearly..you lived here.

I never said I lived in Taft. You lied when you said I did say that.
Why am I not surprised?

[Gunner Asch]

Your opinion is once again noted, basement dweller.

As for green...the trees are green and the grass was green. But it
wont be green again in the neighborhood fill late fall. Its the
fucking desert. But..you were already here and you should know that.
Right?


No collapsing fences. None. Dogs would be running the neighborhood if
there were.

So if it were covered with Dr Pepper cans and empty DingDong
wrappers..it would look just like home....snicker...right?

>
>>
>>Ill glady look at them again.
>>
>>Gunner

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

Raid® to a cockroach.

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 9:41 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:48:32 -0700, A trout in the milk
> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/21/2013 6:42 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>
>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>
>>> What photos did you post?
>>
>> The ones I took of your shithole a couple of years ago on an earlier
>> drive-by.
>
> So you didnt look at the ones I just posted? Now..cites for the
> previous photos?

You can dig in Google Groups archives as well as I can. Now stop
fucking around and get busy, boi.

[Gunner Asch]

Dead vehicles? Which one? Leaky boat? None leak. None moved? Was out
on the Force 5 2 weekends ago. Inch wide cracks in desert pavement?

Obviously...you were never here.

Laugh laugh laugh!!

[Gunner Asch]

Not half. But about 20%

Shrug.

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

Raid® to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

Dole scroungers? Who might those be? Cites? Garcia works at the
kiddylitter plant. I own my own business. Gomez works on Midway Farms,
Mrs Greeley is a retired school teacher. Which dole scroungers are
you blithering about?

>
>
>> That's just Taft.
>
>Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.

So you are admitting to never having been here. (Grin!!)
Laugh laugh laugh!!!

>
>
>> And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
>> not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>> several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>> of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>>

[Gunner Asch]

Rusting? Its Aluminum. And well painted.

So you dont know and in fact...snipped out the list of equipment you
were supposed to give me the price on. Thats hardly surprising now is
it?
>
>It's worthless shit.

Cites?

>
>
>>>>>
>>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>>
>>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>>
>>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>>
>> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
>
>You can't transfer the land without paying something to record the deed.
> Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
>payments."

Cites?

>
>
>>>
>>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>>> for it, too.
>>
>> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
>
>No, gummer, you're not - there are several thousand dollars of unpaid
>taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
>http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H

Of course there are. My property taxes were recently reduced to
$250/year. And ? You will notice Im making payments and paying it
up to current. And? (VBG>

>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>>
>>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>>
>>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>>> any of those, gummer.
>>
>> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.
>
>There's not fantasy, gummer - I described you with great accuracy.

How could you? You called me a Neo-Nazi. Im not white and Im
certainly not Christian..and Im a conservative. So once again..you
lied.

>
>> So..how long have you been off your meds?
>
>stale, gummer - very stale and unimaginative.

So you wont answer the question? Why is that?

>
>> You started trolling around here about a year or so
>> ago...so we know its been that long at least.
>
>It's been more like eight years, gummer.

Sure it has.

>
>
>
>> When can I expect you?
>
>Oh, one of these days, gummer - one of these days.

Ill keep the hole open for you.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:35:38 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
<bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:11:57 PM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>
>>
>>
>> My house..and the empty lot next door.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am in negotiations with the owner to purchase the empty lot.
>>
>>
>>
>> However...it would appear that in 2011 I pissed off a fellow down the
>>
>> street over a dog issue..that my dog wasnt even involved in. So he
>>
>> made a complaint with the county. I was notified by the inspector of
>>
>> it in 2011..and told to keep it cleaned up etc and nothing more was
>>
>> said.
>>
>>
>>
>> Suddenly..on May 10..I get a 7 day warning from the county. New lady
>>
>> inspector..who has little empathy. She claims that cargo containers
>>
>> are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
>>
>> them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. So I
>>
>> mowed, cleaned the lot again, removed a boat and a trailer and put it
>>
>> as the photos show.
>>
>>
>>
>> She said I was "illegally dumping"..despite having the owners
>>
>> permission. So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies and advises
>>
>> me that I have until 2pm Wed afternoon (24 hrs) to clean the lot off
>>
>> else Id be cited for "illegally dumping" and the county would clean
>>
>> off the lot.
>>
>>
>>
>> Im scrambling to find a place to put the cargo container...but the
>>
>> forklift is still down, Ive got ZERO money to move it or to fix the
>>
>> forklift.
>>
>>
>>

>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>
>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now what are my options?
>>
>>
>>

>> California of course.
>
>> Gunner
>
>Gunner:
>
> The California Department of Veterans Affairs might, or might not, have a suggestion:
>
> http://www.calvet.ca.gov/VetServices/Housing.aspx
>
> Veterans Crisis Line - 1-800-273-8255 press 1
>
Thanks Bob!

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

Raid® to a cockroach.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:46:26 -0700, "Howard Beal" <H.b...@network.com>

I got paperwork 2 weeks ago. I called her supervisor this afternoon
and left a message, and called and left a message on HER phone that I
needed 30 days but it would get done.

Best I can do.

Gunner

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:28:49 -0500, Ignoramus30957
<ignoram...@NOSPAM.30957.invalid> wrote:

>Gunner, if you do not know the law and cannot afford lawyers, you
>cannot fight this. I suggest to comply. I would move what I can to my
>property, and call in scrappers and get as much scrap value as
>possible in exchange for speedy removal.

There are no scrappers around here who pay. Only can collectors.

>
>Scrappers, like vultures, like those forced divestiture situations.
>
>i

[Tom Gardner]

Your new "friends" can criticize, but I notice they don't post pix of
their own dwellings. Could be that the government maintains their
habitats for them.

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/21/2013 9:45 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>
>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>
>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>
>>> What photos did you post?
>>>
>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>>
>>>
>>> Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
>>
>> It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
>> trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
>> Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
>> lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
>
> Your opinion is once again noted, basement dweller.

Your hackneyed use of a stale Usenet insult is once again noted, stupid
squat-to-piss boi.

> As for green...the trees are green and the grass was green.

Nothing was ever green.

> But it wont be green again in the neighborhood fill late fall.

"Fill late fall"? It won't *ever* be green, stupid dole scrounger.


> Its the fucking desert.

Methheads and meth lab operators live in the desert.

[A trout in the milk]

All of 'em.

> Leaky boat? None leak.

Not "none", gummer - "it". But it does leak.

[A trout in the milk]

You, for starters.

>>
>>> That's just Taft.
>>
>> Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
>
> So you are admitting to never having been here.

No, I'm not admitting to that. I've been there. I drove by your squat.
It's undeniably a shithole.

[A trout in the milk]

No, the container is not aluminum.

>>
>> It's worthless shit.
>
> Cites?

LOL!!!

>>>>>>
>>>>>> How are you going to "purchase" the lot next door if you have "zero"
>>>>>> money, fuckstain?
>>>>>
>>>>> What...you never heard of time payments?
>>>>
>>>> You mean you have some sucker willing to "sell" you a lot without a down
>>>> payment, without two nickels to rub together to pay any closing costs?
>>>> Someone with no money to pay an appraisal fee or title transfer fee?
>>>
>>> Of course. Land transfer? Never heard of it have you.
>>
>> You can't transfer the land without paying something to record the deed.
>> Of course, you don't even have any money to make any <chortle> "time
>> payments."
>
> Cites?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

>>>>
>>>> No, gummer - no one believes you have any means of buying that
>>>> shit-strewn lot. Of course, you would immediately default on the taxes
>>>> for it, too.
>>>
>>> Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.
>>
>> No, gummer, you're not - there are several thousand dollars of unpaid
>> taxes from "unsecured escape bills" on that shithole property:
>> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>
> Of course there are.

So you lied. That's typical.

> My property taxes were recently reduced to
> $250/year.

No, they weren't. These two separate bills:
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=C
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930304002&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=C

show that a total of $610.58 was due and - miraculously - paid since
December. Of course, one payment for $124.31 was six days late.

Why did you lie and say your property taxes are only $250 per year when
public records clearly show that they're more than twice that amount,
gummer?

Are you beginning to understand why *everyone* - including those
shitstains who consider you an "ally" - views you as a chronic,
reflexive, congenital liar, gummer? It's because you *are* one, gummer.

>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I called and left a message with the supervisor and one with her that
>>>>>>> Im working on it..but need 30 days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now what are my options?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would begin by ceasing to bullshit, if I were you.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you were me..you would be an honorable conservative.
>>>>
>>>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>>>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation. I'm not
>>>> any of those, gummer.
>>>
>>> Your fantasy world is rich and interesting.
>>
>> There's not fantasy, gummer - I described you with great accuracy.
>
> How could you? You called me a Neo-Nazi.

Yes - because that's *EXACTLY* what you are.

>>> So..how long have you been off your meds?
>>
>> stale, gummer - very stale and unimaginative.
>
> So you wont answer the question?

It wasn't a serious question, gummer boi. It was just a lame Usenet insult.

>>> You started trolling around here about a year or so
>>> ago...so we know its been that long at least.
>>
>> It's been more like eight years, gummer.
>
> Sure it has.

Ha ha ha ha ha! You're such an easy limp dick chump, gummer.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.california/msg/6ad1f257ca50a7f8?hl=en

Surely you remember when "Rudy" used to kick your flabby ass up one side
of the dusty cracked weed-choked street and down the other, *don't* you,
gummer? Fuck - that was before your heart attack and stroke, too. I
think I could do it hogtied today, gummer.

gummer, you were threatening to have me killed even back then. And yet,
here I still am, kicking your ass eight years later! I've driven
through Taft, the lower colon of California, several times since then,
too - and you didn't do a thing.

>>
>>> When can I expect you?
>>
>> Oh, one of these days, gummer - one of these days.
>
> Ill keep the hole open for you.

There's no hole. There's no backhoe. There will be no "great cull".

It's all bullshit - all of it. You've admitted it.

[Jack Carlson]

Are you going to forge a DD214? That's a crime, you know.

[Yoor...@jurgis.net]

On 5/21/2013 10:14 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:28:49 -0500, Ignoramus30957
> <ignoram...@NOSPAM.30957.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Gunner, if you do not know the law and cannot afford lawyers, you
>> cannot fight this. I suggest to comply. I would move what I can to my
>> property, and call in scrappers and get as much scrap value as
>> possible in exchange for speedy removal.
>
> There are no scrappers around here who pay. Only can collectors.

i.e., scroungers like you. <chortle>

[BottleBob]

> In a dying area where there are more empty lots with for sale then
>
> Carter has pills. The last photo is of a typical lot in the area.
>
>
>
> Gunner

Gunner:

You could try a modification of this technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbeSidv6wCA

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

[ex-PFC Wintergreen]

gummer could try eating shit and barking at the moon, too - it would
work about as well, and he has lots of practice at it.

[Gunner Asch]

Moving it around is easy..once its empty. But..where do I move it to?

Im working on various contacts and trying to put it on a lot out in
the really rural part of the county,

I could have put it where the motorhome is..if the asshat had finished
repairing the transmission sometime in the past 7 yrs .

Shrug

Gunner

[rangerssuck]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:13:37 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:

In the event that Gunner really has me killfiled, I'd appreciate it if someone would pass this along.

> I got paperwork 2 weeks ago. I called her supervisor this afternoon
> and left a message, and called and left a message on HER phone that I
> needed 30 days but it would get done.

Being a pack rat myself (though you have me beat on that by a mile), I feel your pain. so here's some serious advice from someone who has had a LOT of experience dealing with the local and county government (though not about my junk collection):

1) Phone messages are completely useless in a case like this. Any communication you have with the department should be by certified mail, return receipt requested. It only costs a couple of bucks, but it makes sure that your piece of paper gets into someone's hands. For an additional fee, you can add "deliver to addressee only" which makes sure it gets into your "target's" hands and not into some file clerk's. There are links on the usps.gov web site to https://click2mail.com/?USPS=1 (a usps contractor) where you can actually type and mail the letter online and you actually get a bulk discount on the postage.

2) If you're on reasonable good terms with most of the neighbors, circulate a petition having them ask the authorities to give you the extra time you need.

3) Get involved. If you live in an R-1 zone and you think it should be zoned differently, do something about it. Again, if your neighbors are in favor, it makes a big difference if you show up at a council / freeholders/ whatever they call it there meeting with a well-reasoned and well-documented plan. This may be easier or harder than you think, Talk to elected officials and see what advice they can give. But always remember, Democracy is NOT a spectator sport. We all know you have your opinions, but what do you actually do, other than preach to the choir in rcm? Go to meetings, run for office, volunteer your time to help with some civic project (I just saved my town $40,000 in electronics repairs). DO something.

So, while they do have the law on their side (the zoning is what the zoning has always been), you can have public opinion on your side, and except in the case of the most corrupt politicians, public opinion = votes = their paycheck and you'd be surprised at just how much power a few people can muster. If all else fails, there is always armed insurrection ;-)

When I bought my house in 1984, I asked my lawyer (who was then also my mayor and later my congressman) if there was any problem with me running my business from my house. He said that even though it violates the zoning regulations, there wouldn't be a problem unless a neighbor complained. 29 years later, and I'm still here. Of course, I suppose, if I pissed off the wrong people enough, I could have a problem. But 29 years, same location.

[Frank]

> Raidïŋ― to a cockroach.

> Sheriff Brody to a shark
> Bush to a Liberal
>
> The truth doesn't just hurt. It's painful, like a red hot poker shoved
> up their ass. Like sliding down a hundred foot razor blade using their
> dick as a brake.
>
> They HATE the truth."
>
>

"O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us!"

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 02:44:54 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Moving it full is easy as well. Use your imaginary backhoe and some
rollers, skids, or whatever.

> But..where do I move it to?

Move it to your imaginary acreage, or to one of your imaginary lots on
the quarter of the block you imagine you own, or to your imaginary
warehouse.

>Im working on various contacts and trying to put it on a lot out in
>the really rural part of the county,

Call your imaginary black tie dinner buddies, or your imaginary world
class economist friend.

>I could have put it where the motorhome is..if the asshat had finished
>repairing the transmission sometime in the past 7 yrs .

So you know some asshat who's as slow as you at getting things done.
Maybe he spends all his time on Usenet as well? In any event, hook it
up to your imaginary backhoe and tow it out of there.

>Shrug

Less shrugging might have prevented you getting into yet another dumb
trailer trash predicament. If you keep shrugging the county will move
the container for you and send you a bill that you won't pay. IOW,
same shit, different day.

[Ann Römanoski Wright]

But it's already sitting on a lot he claims he owns!

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 06:18:02 -0700 (PDT), rangerssuck
<range...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:13:37 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>In the event that Gunner really has me killfiled, I'd appreciate it if someone would pass this along.
>
>> I got paperwork 2 weeks ago. I called her supervisor this afternoon
>> and left a message, and called and left a message on HER phone that I
>> needed 30 days but it would get done.
>
>Being a pack rat myself (though you have me beat on that by a mile), I feel your pain. so here's
> some serious advice from someone who has had a LOT of experience dealing with the local and
> county government (though not about my junk collection):

You wrote some great advice, but it won't help in Gunner's case.

>1) Phone messages are completely useless in a case like this. Any communication you have with
> the department should be by certified mail, return receipt requested. It only costs a couple of bucks,
> but it makes sure that your piece of paper gets into someone's hands. For an additional fee, you can
> add "deliver to addressee only" which makes sure it gets into your "target's" hands and not into some
> file clerk's. There are links on the usps.gov web site to https://click2mail.com/?USPS=1
>(a usps contractor) where you can actually type and mail the letter online and you actually get
> a bulk discount on the postage.

Nobody working for his county is going to give a rat's ass about
complaints from someone with Gunner's record of thumbing his nose at
tax bills.

>2) If you're on reasonable good terms with most of the neighbors, circulate a petition having
> them ask the authorities to give you the extra time you need.

He has something like 8 dogs living outdoors in cages. Somebody who
visited him reported that the barking is severe. Therefore, it's
highly unlikely that Gunner's neighbors support him, and in fact, his
current problem started with a neighbor's complaint about Gunner's
dogs.

>3) Get involved. If you live in an R-1 zone and you think it should be zoned differently, do something
> about it. Again, if your neighbors are in favor, it makes a big difference if you show up at a council
> / freeholders/ whatever they call it there meeting with a well-reasoned and well-documented plan.
> This may be easier or harder than you think, Talk to elected officials and see what advice they
> can give. But always remember, Democracy is NOT a spectator sport. We all know you have your
> opinions, but what do you actually do, other than preach to the choir in rcm? Go to meetings, run for
> office, volunteer your time to help with some civic project (I just saved my town $40,000
> in electronics repairs). DO something.

LOL His idea of doing something is threatening "the great cull."

>So, while they do have the law on their side (the zoning is what the zoning has always been),
> you can have public opinion on your side, and except in the case of the most corrupt politicians,
> public opinion = votes = their paycheck and you'd be surprised at just how much power a few
> people can muster. If all else fails, there is always armed insurrection ;-)

Gunner says that he already has the perfect rightard politicians. I
don't think he's going to risk electing any dems. :)

>When I bought my house in 1984, I asked my lawyer (who was then also my mayor and later
> my congressman) if there was any problem with me running my business from my house.
> He said that even though it violates the zoning regulations, there wouldn't be a problem unless
> a neighbor complained. 29 years later, and I'm still here. Of course, I suppose,
> if I pissed off the wrong people enough, I could have a problem. But 29 years, same location.

Good job.

[CanopyCo]

Don’t do the selective enforcement deal.
All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t
dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.

I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back
taxes.

As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
we did it on a job.
We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull
pallets.
Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
build out of the crap you have and out the door.

As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.
Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.

As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
they already are with the back taxes.
This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.
And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.

As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
meth house is a good thing.

As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good
standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
put a lean on the place.
Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
cooperation without being forced.

[azotic]

>>Looks like they gotcha over a barrel unless you move that container
>>overnight. Did they serve you with any paperwork? Here in nevada
>>they have to serve you with an official notice stating the ordenance
>>number you violated in wrighting stating you have xx days to clean
>>up the property. If you don't comply the cleaning crew shows up
>>and does its thing, then they put a lein on the property to make shure
>>they collect with interest.
>>
>>Best Regards
>>Tom.
>>
> I got paperwork 2 weeks ago. I called her supervisor this afternoon
> and left a message, and called and left a message on HER phone that I
> needed 30 days but it would get done.
>
> Best I can do.
>
> Gunner
>

Looks like there is gonna be more paperwork heading your way.
As Paul Dickman said just ask for and extension, and get it done.

Did you check how much the daily fine is?

Get the back hoe out dig a hole. Push container into the hole.
Cover the container with dirt. Build an entrance, call it a storm
shelter. Out of sight, out of mind when it comes to inspectors.
Make shure its on your property.

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/

[alv...@example.com]

rangerssuck <range...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:13:37 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:

> In the event that Gunner really has me killfiled, I'd appreciate
> it if someone would pass this along.

*

* Kill files are for sissies! LOL :)

Done, "RangerSucker". ;)

Cool post, BTW, RS! :)

Alvin in AZ is a tinkering fool and so's a packrat too. :/

[Nevillë M Wiles]

On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
> Don�t do the selective enforcement deal.
> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren�t

> dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>

> I�m surprised that they didn�t just take the entire place over back

> taxes.
>
> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
> we did it on a job.

> We had back hoes and didn�t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull

> pallets.
> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>
> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.

> Don�t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don�t need.

>
> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
> they already are with the back taxes.

> This will likely end in jail time if he doesn�t pay or play right.

> And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.

No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
be seized and sold at auction, though.

Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
for something else.

> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
> meth house is a good thing.
>

> As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn�t put one in good

> standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
> put a lean on the place.
> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
> cooperation without being forced.

Add 'em up:
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H

There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
dating back to 1994.

[rangerssuck]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:13:18 AM UTC-4, azotic wrote:

> Did you check how much the daily fine is?

And that can be incredibly stiff. You really don't want to put this off without a written agreement.

> Get the back hoe out dig a hole. Push container into the hole.
> Cover the container with dirt. Build an entrance, call it a storm
> shelter. Out of sight, out of mind when it comes to inspectors.
>
> Make shure its on your property.

I do like that idea, especially in light of this week's tornadoes. One thing I would add is that Gunner could get an "emergency" building permit for the shelter, just to keep it on the up & up. Tell the permit people he's worried that global warming will bring tornadoes to his neck of the desert.

Cut ports (doors ) in the top of the container, then later use chains & bars to hook up the backhoe and lift the pallets out.

[Nevillë M Wiles]

<chortle> The container has been on the adjacent property for a long
time. Maybe that's why gummer claims he "owns" the property: adverse
possession.


> Best Regards
> Tom.

[whoyakidding's ghost]

Yabbut no adverse possession because he also says he always had
permission from the owner (himself). Oh what a tangled web...

[alv...@example.com]

BottleBob <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Gunner:
> You could try a modification of this technique.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbeSidv6wCA
> --
> BottleBob
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

Cool webite you got there, BB. :)

Video was cool too but as usual...
-blah-blah-blah--blah-blah-blah-
...just skip to the middle. ;)

LOL :)

On "old MTV" (ain't watched in a long time) they'd show stuff
first then talk about it. Growing up with B&W TV, MTV was a
welcomed relief from all the setup and explainations crap you'd
have to wait on.

Alvin in AZ

[CanopyCo]

On May 22, 9:36 am, Nevillë M Wiles

<kick.dweebër.äs...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
> On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> > Don’t do the selective enforcement deal.
> > All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t

> > dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>

> > I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back

> > taxes.
>
> > As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
> > we did it on a job.

> > We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull

> > pallets.
> > Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
> > bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
> > with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
> > build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>
> > As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.

> > Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.

>
> > As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
> > they already are with the back taxes.

> > This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.

> > And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
>
> No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes.  The property might
> be seized and sold at auction, though.
>
> Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
> for something else.
>
> > As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
> > considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
> > It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
> > around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
> > meth house is a good thing.
>

> > As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good

> > standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
> > put a lean on the place.
> > Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
> > cooperation without being forced.
>

> Add 'em up:http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=0393032...

>
> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
> dating back to 1994.

What about unpaid fines due to failing to clean up his place?
Won’t that eventually put one in jail for failing to pay a ticket?

[alv...@example.com]

In rec.crafts.metalworking Nevill? M Wiles wrote:
> Add 'em up:
> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
> dating back to 1994.

Wow, that's a real eye opener about what can be found on the
internet! :)

Thanks for that, NMW. :)

Alvin in AZ pays his taxes
ps-
Demublicans v Republicrats, what's the difference? None, they're
both owned by the international bankers that own the US Gov't and
all U.S. dollars electronic or paper. :/

^^ Thought I'd add a touch-of-reality to the poly-ticks on r.c.m ;)
(and m.s and a.s too?)

[Michael A. Terrell]

alv...@Example.com wrote:
>
> Alvin in AZ is a tinkering fool and so's a packrat too. :/

What do you pack the rats in? Does PETA know about this?

[BottleBob]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:44:54 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:59:54 -0700 (PDT), BottleBob
> <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> >Gunner:
>
> >
>
> > You could try a modification of this technique.
>
> >
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbeSidv6wCA
>
> >
>
> Moving it around is easy..once its empty. But..where do I move it to?
>
>
>
> Im working on various contacts and trying to put it on a lot out in
>
> the really rural part of the county,
>
>
>
> I could have put it where the motorhome is..if the asshat had finished
>
> repairing the transmission sometime in the past 7 yrs .
>
> Shrug
>
> Gunner

Gunner:

I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. I thought you were under severe time constraints to move the container off the vacant lot. I figured you could go to the back of some markets and get a bunch of cardboard boxes, tape them closed, and use them as sort of like packing material for the items inside the container, then just move the container over to your own property. That should give you some breathing room to dispose of the items IN the container, and the container itself.
A motor home, even with a non-functioning transmission, is an easier item to move.

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:36:14 -0700, Nevillė M Wiles
<kick.dweebėr.äs...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:

>On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:

>> Don’t do the selective enforcement deal.
>> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren’t

>> dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>>

>> I’m surprised that they didn’t just take the entire place over back

>> taxes.
>>
>> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
>> we did it on a job.

>> We had back hoes and didn’t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull

>> pallets.
>> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
>> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
>> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
>> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>>
>> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.

>> Don’t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don’t need.

>>
>> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
>> they already are with the back taxes.

>> This will likely end in jail time if he doesn’t pay or play right.

>> And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
>
>No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
>be seized and sold at auction, though.
>
>Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
>for something else.
>
>
>> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
>> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
>> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
>> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
>> meth house is a good thing.
>>

>> As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn’t put one in good

>> standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
>> put a lean on the place.
>> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
>> cooperation without being forced.
>
>Add 'em up:
>http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>
>There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
>dating back to 1994.

There is less than $8k owed. <G> Ive been busy making payments

<VBG>

--
"You guess the truth hurts?

Really?

"Hurt" aint the word.

For Liberals, the truth is like salt to a slug.
Sunlight to a vampire.

Raid® to a cockroach.

[BottleBob]

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 7:53:20 AM UTC-7, alv...@Example.com wrote:
> BottleBob <bott...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Gunner:
>
> > You could try a modification of this technique.
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbeSidv6wCA
>
> > --
>
> > BottleBob
>
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
>
>
>
> Cool webite you got there, BB. :)
>
>
>
> Video was cool too but as usual...
>
> -blah-blah-blah--blah-blah-blah-
>
> ...just skip to the middle. ;)
>
> LOL :)

> Alvin in AZ

Alvin:

Why thank you. It's pretty long in the tooth now. Earthlink no longer supports the site that I used to create it. So I haven't been able to make any changes to it for about 10 years.


--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

[A trout in the milk]

On 5/22/2013 12:20 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:36:14 -0700, Nevill� M Wiles
> <kick.dweeb�r.�s...@taft.sucks.for.sure> wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2013 6:58 AM, CanopyCo wrote:

>>> Don�t do the selective enforcement deal.
>>> All that will accomplish is getting a bunch of people that weren�t

>>> dicks into the same bind that gunner got into by being a dick.
>>>

>>> I�m surprised that they didn�t just take the entire place over back

>>> taxes.
>>>
>>> As to moving stuff out of a conex with a back hoe, it is the only way
>>> we did it on a job.

>>> We had back hoes and didn�t rent a fork lift for just one day to pull

>>> pallets.
>>> Hook a chain to the pallet, threw the holes and onto a bar, pipe, or
>>> bean running across the back of the pallet so that you pull the beam
>>> with the chain and the pallet slides along the floor down the ramp you
>>> build out of the crap you have and out the door.
>>>
>>> As to buying when broke, that is just standard thinking with gunner.

>>> Don�t pay your bills, just buy more stuff that you don�t need.

>>>
>>> As far as the leans on the property being more then they are worth,
>>> they already are with the back taxes.

>>> This will likely end in jail time if he doesn�t pay or play right.

>>> And being broke we know that pay and play right are both out of reach.
>>
>> No one goes to jail for delinquent property taxes. The property might
>> be seized and sold at auction, though.
>>
>> Someday, some way, gummer will end up in jail, but it will have to be
>> for something else.
>>
>>
>>> As far as getting the news involved, that will likely back fire
>>> considering the way the place looks and the reputation that he has.
>>> It will likely make the LEO pissed off at him for trying a end run
>>> around and the news guys will likely report it as him cleaning up his
>>> meth house is a good thing.
>>>

>>> As far as the taxes being paid now, it doesn�t put one in good

>>> standing when the refuse to pay any property taxes at all until they
>>> put a lean on the place.
>>> Any future involvement will be tainted by the previous total lack of
>>> cooperation without being forced.
>>
>> Add 'em up:
>> http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H
>>
>> There's more that $14,100 in unpaid taxes on that piece of blight,
>> dating back to 1994.
>
> There is less than $8k owed. <G> Ive been busy making payments

Bullshit. You haven't had the money to make payments, and the site is
kept current.

But yesterday, you said you were "nearly current" on your taxes:

Funny..Im nearly current on my taxes.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.crafts.metalworking/msg/4e32e074b464eb84?hl=en


By your own (false) admission, you still owe more than half of what that
Kern County Tax Collector site shows. That's hardly being "nearly current."

Once again, you lied, and once again - as always - you got caught.

[Winston_Smith]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:30:36 -0700, A trout in the milk wrote:
>On 5/21/2013 5:13 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

>>> Why don't you move it with the backhoe, fuckstain?
>>
>> Ever try to move stuff out of a 25' cargo container with a backhoe?
>
>Ooopsie! You didn't say you were trying to move "stuff" (worthless
>shit) *out* of the container, congenital liar - you said you were trying
>to move the container itself.

Actually he wrote "She claims that cargo containers

are a "no no" here in the unencorporated part of the county (dispite
them being all over the place) . So I had 7 days to pull it out. "

1. containers are a no no
2. 7 days to pull "it" out.

"It" can not refer to anything but the containers. From the counties
point of view, if the problem is the container, what do they care
what's in it?

[Winston_Smith]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:14:45 -0700, A trout in the milk
<jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:

>>> If I were you, I'd be a reflexively lying neo-Nazi named "gummer mitty"
>>> living in poverty, filth, squalor and abject moral degradation.

Wouldn't it be nice if Obama sent each of us a check so we could all
afford to live in whatever "nice" place we wanted to?

Lacking anything from 0, real people live where they can afford and
where they can find work.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:43:01 -0600, deep wrote:

>On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:36:02 -0400, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:

>
>>On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:23:25 -0700, A trout in the milk
>><jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 5/21/2013 7:18 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 19:54:26 -0600, Yes it's a shit hole wrote:
>>>>

>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 18:42:20 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:32:42 -0700, A trout in the milk
>>>>>> <jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Place does look like a dump.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's a dump. The entire block is a dump. The entire section is a dump.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The opinion of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, not mere "opinion", gummer. I've driven by your shithole of a squat
>>>>>>> and I've posted pictures of it here. The place is methhead central.
>>>>>>> It's a reeking shithole. You live in a shithole because you're a
>>>>>>> dole-scrounging shitbag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What photos did you post?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mean you posted photos like these?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/May212013?authkey=Gv1sRgCLWlwezt7crmFw#
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please point out the "shit hole " aspects if you would be so kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a fucking dump. Shitty looking double wides. Trashy looking
>>>>> trailers and storage containers. Crappy looking, collapsing fences.
>>>>> Trashed empty lots. Not a bit of green grass anywhere. Definately a
>>>>> lower class neighborhood. Definately a shit hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ill glady look at them again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gunner
>>>> Taft might be a "shithole" but from the pictures, Gunner's little
>>>> "dump" looks better maintained and neater than his surroundings.
>>>
>>>It isn't. I've driven by it. It really is a shithole - dead vehicles
>>>in the front yard, a leaky boat that hasn't been moved in years, weeds.
>>> Don't forget the inch-wide cracks in the street up and down the block.

>> The cracks in the street are not his doing or his problem. That's
>>just Taft. And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are

>>not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>>several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>>of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>

>So like Milky Trout said, he lives in a shithole.
But not of his making, so no fault of his.

[cl...@snyder.on.ca]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk
<jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:

>In a way, they are. The fact that the entire block is full of dole
>scroungers like him, who don't do anything to maintain their properties,
>is why the county won't keep the street in better condition.
>
>

>> That's just Taft.
>
>Taft is what it is because of people like gummer.
>
>

>> And I'll bet from the far side of the continent, there are
>> not many better maintained homes/buildings on the block, or for
>> several blocks in either direction. It IS Taft. Could likely buy half
>> of the properties in the town for back taxes, or less.
>>

"people like gummer" live in Taft because they can't afford to move
out. Taft is like Taft is because there are no jobs, and nobody has
enough money to fix it up or move out. It is Taft. The armpit of
California? Perhaps.

[Ignoramus3359]

On 2013-05-22, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 21:28:49 -0500, Ignoramus30957
><ignoram...@NOSPAM.30957.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Gunner, if you do not know the law and cannot afford lawyers, you
>>cannot fight this. I suggest to comply. I would move what I can to my
>>property, and call in scrappers and get as much scrap value as
>>possible in exchange for speedy removal.
>
> There are no scrappers around here who pay. Only can collectors.
>>
>>Scrappers, like vultures, like those forced divestiture situations.
>>
>
> Really?

Call towing companies, they can take the forklift and the container.

i

[George Plimpton]

Exactly.

gummer was caught bullshitting, yet again.

[A trout in the milk]

But it *is* of his making.

[A trout in the milk]

Many people *not* like gummer apply themselves, work hard, keep clean,
and earn enough money so they can live in a nicer place. gummer is
where he is by his own shitty choices.

[Winston_Smith]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:08:24 -0700, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not>
wrote:

Huh? Do you do anything except bitch and distort?

[whoyakidding's ghost]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:10:28 -0700, A trout in the milk

<jonbanq�eer@y�hoo.com> wrote:

>On 5/22/2013 1:54 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 May 2013 20:43:03 -0700, A trout in the milk

>> "people like gummer" live in Taft because they can't afford to move
>> out.
>
>Many people *not* like gummer apply themselves, work hard, keep clean,
>and earn enough money so they can live in a nicer place. gummer is
>where he is by his own shitty choices.

Yup. And he's making another shitty choice right now. Instead of
scrapping his hoard of crap as Ig advised, Gunner will probably keep
procrastinating. First there will be fines at a per day rate. Then the
county will haul the container to an impound yard, and the rent clock
will start running. Gunner will whine up a pity storm, swear he's
working on raising bail, but in the end the county will liquidate the
crap and send Gunner a huge bill for fines, fees, hauling and storage.
Basically a replay of the unpaid taxes scenario from '94 onward - very
small bills that cost less than smoking, yet Gunner made the shitty
decision not to pay. Instead he now owes an average of a grand per
year, which keeps rising.
http://www.kcttc.co.kern.ca.us/Payment/ATNDetails.aspx?NUMBER=03930320008&NUM_TYPE=AT&YR=H

[alv...@example.com]

Well... you know us "PETA people" we figure "meat's meat". xD

Alvin in AZ

[alv...@example.com]

> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
> > Cool webite you got there, BB. :)

> > Alvin in AZ
>
> Alvin:
> Why thank you. It's pretty long in the tooth now. Earthlink no
> longer supports the site that I used to create it. So I haven't
> been able to make any changes to it for about 10 years.
> --
> BottleBob
> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

Copy it all off and move it to a better provider??

Panix ain't bad? <shrug>

I use Pico to edit my website. LOL :)
And the HTML is about as simple as I can make it...

http://www.panix.com/~alvinj/

Alvin in AZ
ps-
Gunner, stuff is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
And no more.

[PrecisionmachinisT]

"Ann Römanoski Wright" <kick.dwieber@àssholes.common> wrote in message news:68abf$519ccce0$414e828e$19...@EVERESTKC.NET...
> On 5/22/2013 6:34 AM, whoyakidding's ghost wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 02:44:54 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>

>>>>> So this morning..she shows up with 2 deputies
>>>>> what are my options?

When they come back, start waving a gun around whilst loudly proclaiming that it's perfectly legal to shoot trespassers.