Animal "rights" activists: overwhelmingly female clueless urbanites

[notg...@yahoo.com]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-dependence-on-animals/?hp

[Frank]

On 10/31/2011 3:55 PM, notg...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-dependence-on-animals/?hp
>
Most aren't this ugly:
http://ingridnewkirk.com/

[George Plimpton]

Ingrid Newkirk is gorgeous compared with Andrea Dworkin:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/17/weekinreview/17msuh.html


In fact, Newkirk even has held up better than Brigitte Bardot:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-484323/At-73-Brigitte-Bardot-greying-goddess.html

[Frank]

I was tempted to initially say, "they all ugly" but I had thought of the
likes of Brigitte Bardot. I guess you could say, "they all ugly or will
get ugly."

[Rupert]

On Nov 1, 6:55 am, notgen...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...

You think that article reinforces the "point" you wanted to make, do
you?

[Rupert]

On Nov 1, 10:48 am, Frank <frankperiodlogu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 10/31/2011 7:07 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 10/31/2011 3:56 PM, Frank wrote:

> >> On 10/31/2011 3:55 PM, notgen...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...

>
> >> Most aren't this ugly:
> >>http://ingridnewkirk.com/
>
> > Ingrid Newkirk is gorgeous compared with Andrea Dworkin:
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/17/weekinreview/17msuh.html
>
> > In fact, Newkirk even has held up better than Brigitte Bardot:

> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-484323/At-73-Brigitte-Ba...

>
> I was tempted to initially say, "they all ugly" but I had thought of the
> likes of Brigitte Bardot.  I guess you could say, "they all ugly or will
> get ugly."

Sounds like an uplifting way to think about women.

[Bret Cahill]

> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...

The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.

This is just one more example.


Bret Cahill

[Mr.Smartypants]

The left-wing-caused economic meltdown is not the only important issue
in people's lives, cowdung.

Tell us a little more about your *failed* suit against the Department of
Labor, cowdung.

[Bret Cahill]

> >>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>
> > The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
> > Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>
> > This is just one more example.
>
> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown

The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in Oct. '08 on W. Bush's
watch with W. Bush's ruinous tax cuts for the rich policies in effect
because voters didn't vote in a super majority of Democrats in 2006 to
over ride W. Bush's veto.

> is not the only important issue
> in people's lives,

It's the most important issue during a recession and with OWS the
moneyed interest media look ridiculous pretending anyone cares about
naked nazi flag burner parades.

When was the last time you heard a MIMedia whore gush, "9/11 changed
EEEEEVERYthing?


Bret Cahill

[Bret Cahill]

> In fact,

Hate to break in but one of your sock puppets is spreading dirt on
you. You need to talk to him ASAP!


Bret Cahill

[George Plimpton]

On 11/1/2011 8:05 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>>
>>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
>>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>>
>>> This is just one more example.
>>
>> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>
> The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in

It didn't happen, cowdung. The recession was caused by the left-wing
mortgage fiasco - lending to deadbeats.

[Bret Cahill]

> >>>>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>
> >>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
> >>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>
> >>> This is just one more example.
>
> >> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>
> > The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in
>
> It didn't happen, cowdung.  

Try not to spree but if you must spree, spree local. Very local.
Just shoot up your trailer.

And if you decide to "go teabag" and shoot up a beauty parlor,
remember, you have a solid defense if you just tell the jury that the
parlor patrons were all "just like Hitler."

[George Plimpton]

On 11/1/2011 9:25 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>>
>>>>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
>>>>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>>
>>>>> This is just one more example.
>>
>>>> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>>
>>> The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in
>>
>> It didn't happen, cowdung.
>
> Try not to spree but

That was trite and stale eight years ago when you said it, cowdung.

Try to be original, fuckwit.

[Bret Cahill]

On Nov 2, 12:08 am, George Plimpton <geo...@si.not> wrote:
> On 11/1/2011 9:25 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>
> >>>>>>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>
> >>>>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
> >>>>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>
> >>>>> This is just one more example.
>
> >>>> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>
> >>> The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in
>
> >> It didn't happen, cowdung.
>
> > Try not to spree but
>
> That was trite

You need to take responsibility for your bad decisions for sock
puppets.

One of your SPs has been telling everyone including BATF that you've
been standing in front of the bathroom mirror for hours trying to hiss
just like Charlton Heston:

"If I git pushed too far . . ."

You are probably on a short list somewhere.

[George Plimpton]

On 11/2/2011 8:27 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> On Nov 2, 12:08 am, George Plimpton<geo...@si.not> wrote:
>> On 11/1/2011 9:25 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>>
>>>>>>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
>>>>>>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>>
>>>>>>> This is just one more example.
>>
>>>>>> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>>
>>>>> The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in
>>
>>>> It didn't happen, cowdung.
>>
>>> Try not to spree but
>>

>> That was trite and stale eight years ago when you said it, cowdung.
>>
>> Try to be original, fuckwit.
>

> You need to take responsibility for

You need to grow up and stop spewing trite, stale bullshit.

You need to hire a lawyer, rather than represent yourself, so your next
suit might have a prayer.

[Bret Cahill]

> >>>>>>>>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>
> >>>>>>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
> >>>>>>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>
> >>>>>>> This is just one more example.
>
> >>>>>> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>
> >>>>> The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in
>
> >>>> It didn't happen, cowdung.
>
> >>> Try not to spree but
>
> >> That was trite and stale eight years ago when you said it, cowdung.
>
> >> Try to be original, fuckwit.
>
> > You need to take responsibility for
>
> You need

Your bad decisions, i.e., that treacherous sock puppet who got you on
the BATF short list, are _your_ responsibility. Don't blame others
for your bad decisions.

[George Plimpton]

On 11/2/2011 9:10 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>>
>>>>>>>>> The rich pay their minions in the media to do anything to Jerry
>>>>>>>>> Springerize the political debate off of economic issues.
>>
>>>>>>>>> This is just one more example.
>>
>>>>>>>> The left-wing-caused economic meltdown
>>
>>>>>>> The GOP tax cut recession / meltdown happened in
>>
>>>>>> It didn't happen, cowdung.
>>
>>>>> Try not to spree but
>>
>>>> That was trite and stale eight years ago when you said it, cowdung.
>>
>>>> Try to be original, fuckwit.
>>
>>> You need to take responsibility for
>>

>> You need to grow up and stop spewing trite, stale bullshit.
>>
>> You need to hire a lawyer, rather than represent yourself, so your next suit might have a prayer.
>

> Your bad decisions

Nope - *your* bad decisions, fuckwit, such as representing yourself in
your frivolous lawsuit against the Department of Labor <chortle>

[Bret Cahill]

> > Your bad decisions
>
> Nope

Denying your bad decision to cut/snip the part about your bad decision
to use sock puppets won't change anything.

[dh]

· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

tires, paper, upholstery, floor waxes, glass, water
filters, rubber, fertilizer, antifreeze, ceramics, insecticides,
insulation, linoleum, plastic, textiles, blood factors, collagen,
heparin, insulin, solvents, biodegradable detergents, herbicides,
gelatin capsules, adhesive tape, laminated wood products,
plywood, paneling, wallpaper and wallpaper paste, cellophane
wrap and tape, abrasives, steel ball bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·

[George Plimpton]

On 11/2/2011 11:00 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> Your bad decisions
>>
>> Nope - *your* bad decisions, fuckwit, such as representing yourself in
>> your frivolous lawsuit against the Department of Labor <chortle>
>

> Denying your bad decision

*YOUR* bad decision, fuckwit.

Too funny...

[George Plimpton]

On 11/2/2011 2:39 PM, dh@. wrote:
> · Vegans [worthless cracKKKer spew]

"Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock, Fuckwit.

[Bret Cahill]

> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock

Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?

That way you could have a cow and eat it too!

[Bret Cahill]

> > Denying your bad decision

> *YOUR* bad decision

Even that treacherous sock puppet of yours is saying you are denying
your bad decisions.

[George Plimpton]

On 11/2/2011 12:39 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> Denying your bad decision
>

>> *YOUR* bad decision, fuckwit.
>>
>> Too funny...
>
> Even that treacherous

That treacherous slope of public debate sees you zooming downhill and
crashing, cowdung. You blow at this.

[Bret Cahill]

> That treacherous

sockpuppet keeps giving you bad advice. You're digging yourself
deeper and deeper in a hole.

[George Plimpton]

> sockp

Tell us about your failed lawsuit against the Department of Labor,
"counselor" <chortle>

[Bret Cahill]

> Tell us about your failed

Your sock puppet said you wouldn't be so obese and surely if you would
just get some exercise.

1st rule of digging yourself into a hole:

Stop digging.

[George Plimpton]

> Your sock pup

You really don't want to talk about that failed lawsuit, do you,
cowdung? I can't say I blame you.

[Bret Cahill]

> You

Get some exercise.

[sarge]

On 31 Okt, 20:55, notgen...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...

YOu did not understand that article. Read it again. It is critiquing
how irrational we are for not taking responsibility for our love of
animals.

[George Plimpton]

> Get

Get a clue, cowdung.

You're no better at this than glurge, cowdung,

[George Plimpton]

On 11/2/2011 7:35 PM, sarge wrote:
> On 31 Okt, 20:55, notgen...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>
> YOu did not understand that article.

I understood it. You, of course, didn't.

[Bret Cahill]

And get some exercise.

[dh]

On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:59:22 -0700, Goo wrote:

>"Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock

For some it is and for others it's not Goob. Eliminationists and ONLY
eliminationists can't even afford to acknowledge that the distinction exists
which is exactly why YOU can't afford to acknowledge that it exists, Goo. Those
of us who honestly favor decent AW over the misnomer can appreciate that some
animals like broilers in open houses, and their parents, appear to have decent
lives of positive value. We can appreciate that the parents of battery hens also
kept in open houses appear to have lives of positive value, and in contrast
their daughters after they are confined to the cages often appear not to have
lives of positive value. Their brothers also of course rarely if ever have lives
of positive value. Cage free layers in contrast do appear to usually have lives
of positive value, while their brothers again do not. Game chickens in general
imo usually appear to have lives of positive value and almost always better and
longer than broiler chickens.

[dh]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
wrote:

From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value for
the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive. Only if your
objective is to make the animals suffer would that be a good idea.

However, we should not forget and always appreciate the fact that billions
of animals only live because humans raise them for food, whether their lives are
of positive value or of negative value *to the animals themselves*.

[dh]

On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:18:53 -0700, Goo wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT), sarge <grease...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 31 Okt, 20:55, notgen...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...
>>

>>YOu did not understand that article. Read it again. It is critiquing
>>how irrational we are for not taking responsibility for our love of
>>animals.
>

>I understood it.

LOL!!! A person who insists things like:

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
consideration, and gets it." - Goo

"When considering your food choices ethically, assign
ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to
eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo

"The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get to
experience life" deserves no consideration when asking
whether or not it is moral to kill them. Zero." - Goo

is not likely to comprehend much less appreciate anything that has to do with
"love" for any animals, Goo.

>You, of course, didn't.

Maybe he CAN consider and appreciate their lives Goober. Maybe even when
they are of positive value for the animals...millions of them Goob... Even if he
can't, some of us certainly can...

[George Plimpton]

On 11/3/2011 4:21 PM, dh@. wrote:

>>> · Vegans contr

>
>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>
> For some it is and for others it's not

It isn't for *any*, Goo.

[George Plimpton]

On 11/3/2011 4:29 PM, dh@. wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill<BretC...@peoplepc.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>
>> Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>> and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>> so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>
>> That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>
> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value for
> the animal, meaning

You stupid plodding shit-4-braincell goober, Goo - he's fucking with
you, and here you are replying seriously.

Ha ha ha ha ha! You fucking moronic cracKKKer, Goo!

[George Plimpton]

On 11/3/2011 4:31 PM, dh@. wrote:

>>>
>>> YOu did not understand that article. Read it again. It is critiquing
>>> how irrational we are for not taking responsibility for our love of
>>> animals.
>>
>> I understood it.
>

> A person who insists things like:
>
> "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
> consideration,

It doesn't.

[Dutch]

<dh@.> wrote in message news:8s86b75mt9ltlm7v8...@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
> <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>
>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>
>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>
> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value
> for
> the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive. Only if
> your
> objective is to make the animals suffer would that be a good idea.
>
> However, we should not forget and always appreciate the fact that
> billions
> of animals only live because humans raise them for food,

There's absolutely no reason to remember or "appreciate" that, doing so
serves no useful purpose.

> whether their lives are
> of positive value or of negative value *to the animals themselves*.

We should do whatever we can to ensure those animals lives are positive,
THAT serves a useful purpose.

[George Plimpton]

On 11/3/2011 4:29 PM, dh@. wrote:

> However, we should not forget and always appreciate the fact that billions
> of animals only live because humans raise them for food,

There is absolutely no reason to remember that, and there is *NOTHING*
to appreciate about it. It is morally meaningless. If we were to stop
raising animals for food, no animal would "miss out" on anything. It is
not a "benefit" for any animal to come into existence, and it is not a
loss if some animals that might have existed instead never exist.

You lost.

[Gunner Asch]

On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:29:05 -0700, dh@. wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>
>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>
>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>
> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value for
>the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive.

So our returning vets with prosthesis are also living negative value
lives?


One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

[dh]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:41:15 -0700, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

><dh@.> wrote in message news:8s86b75mt9ltlm7v8...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
>> <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>>
>>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>>
>>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>>
>> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value
>> for
>> the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive. Only if
>> your
>> objective is to make the animals suffer would that be a good idea.
>>
>> However, we should not forget and always appreciate the fact that
>> billions
>> of animals only live because humans raise them for food,
>
>There's absolutely no reason to remember or "appreciate" that, doing so
>serves no useful purpose.

Not for those of you who have already chosen to accept elimination over
decent AW, but for those who are as yet undecided, and necessarily for those who
have already sided with AW, there is of course much reason to appreciate lives
of positive value for livestock.

>> whether their lives are
>> of positive value or of negative value *to the animals themselves*.
>
>We should do whatever we can to ensure those animals lives are positive

ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose appreciation for lives of
positive value for livestock. NO OTHER people have reason to oppose it.

[dh]

On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:48:47 -0700, Goo wrote:

>It is not a "benefit" for any animal to come into existence

ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose having appreciation for lives of
positive value Goo.

[dh]

On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:09:17 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:29:05 -0700, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>>
>>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>>
>>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>>
>> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value for
>>the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive.
>
>So our returning vets with prosthesis are also living negative value
>lives?

Not necessarily. Why did you think the situations would be identical, or
even similar enough to try comparing?

[George Plimpton]

On 11/7/2011 3:15 PM, dh@. wrote:

>> It is not a "benefit" for any animal to come into existence
>
> ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose having appreciation for lives of

You have no appreciation for the lives of any animals.

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 4, 8:21 am, dh@. wrote:

>........... Cage free layers in contrast do appear to usually have lives

> of positive value, while their brothers again do not. Game chickens in general
> imo usually appear to have lives of positive value and almost always better and
> longer than broiler chickens.

Hysterical anthropmorophical leftist diatribe, no wonder ewe and
Simpleton and Dutch all get along so well while only pretending ewes
dont.

MG

[George Plimpton]

On 11/3/2011 4:21 PM, dh@. wrote:

>

>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>

> Cage free layers in contrast do appear to usually have lives
> of positive value,

Positive value to whom, Goo?

[Dutch]

<dh@.> wrote in message news:tjpgb7dqi6l9rt39c...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:41:15 -0700, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>
>><dh@.> wrote in message news:8s86b75mt9ltlm7v8...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
>>> <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>>>
>>>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>>>
>>>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>>>
>>> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value
>>> for
>>> the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive. Only if
>>> your
>>> objective is to make the animals suffer would that be a good idea.
>>>
>>> However, we should not forget and always appreciate the fact that
>>> billions
>>> of animals only live because humans raise them for food,
>>
>>There's absolutely no reason to remember or "appreciate" that, doing so
>>serves no useful purpose.
>

> Not for those of you who have already chosen to accept <snip strawman>

Not for anyone, not for any person or animal, it serves NO useful purpose to
"appreciate" that some animals get to experience life because we eat them.
If it did you would have told us what that purpose is by now instead of
spending all your time erecting strawmen and equivocating. So tell us now,
what specifically is the purpose? Does it help any animals, any at all? Does
it help me? you? anyone? No, it does not.

[Gunner Asch]

Why would you be stupid enough to think they were NOT comparable?

Gunner

[Warren E. Harrison]

You're stupid, gummer. You bathe in stupidity in the latrine of your
little squat on Olive Av. in Taft.

[Gunner Asch]

Laugh laugh laugh! I own an acre paid in full, with a 1500 square foot
home, along with a decent machine shop AND a decent welding shop..and
you are stuck in your mommas basement amidst the empty coke bottles,
pizza cartons and your own shit..and you claim IM stupid?

Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

What a fucking bunch of maroonies the Leftards have posting on Usenet.

ROFLMAO!!!

Fucking leftwingers...dumb as a net bag of cat shit

[Warren E. Harrison]

It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
the central valley

The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
vacant lot across the street from you.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:41:52 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"

Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.

>
>The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>vacant lot across the street from you.

Its also in the desert. <VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
desert. We dont have "weed choked"

And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity. Seems they
are ignoring the little people, the taxpayers..and only fixing roads in
places like Beverly Hills and so forth.

But..the street isnt too bad. Kids skateboard on it every day.

So one wonders if one can get a TerraView satalitte photo of your mommas
basement and the weed choked skin you live in?

Laugh laugh laugh!

[Warren E. Harrison]

I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.

>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>
> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
> desert. We dont have "weed choked"

It's weed-choked and covered in trash.

> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.

It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
maintenance.

[George Plimpton]

Why do you think you can get away with bullshitting like that, gummer?

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/326-Olive-Ave-Taft-CA-93268/18907159_zpid/

Your lot is 6,969 square feet, or 0.16 of an acre.

[Warren E. Harrison]

Oh, he's quite the land baron, isn't he? 0.16 of an acre - ha ha ha ha ha!

[dh]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:56:49 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:15:33 -0800, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:41:15 -0700, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>><dh@.> wrote in message news:8s86b75mt9ltlm7v8...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
>>>> <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>>>>
>>>>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>>>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>>>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>>>>
>>>>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>>>>
>>>> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value
>>>> for
>>>> the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive. Only if
>>>> your
>>>> objective is to make the animals suffer would that be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> However, we should not forget and always appreciate the fact that
>>>> billions
>>>> of animals only live because humans raise them for food,
>>>
>>>There's absolutely no reason to remember or "appreciate" that, doing so
>>>serves no useful purpose.
>>

>> Not for those of you who have already chosen to accept elimination over
>>decent AW, but for those who are as yet undecided, and necessarily for those who
>>have already sided with AW, there is of course much reason to appreciate lives
>>of positive value for livestock.
>

>Not for anyone,

That's a blatant lie.

>not for any person

That's the same lie again.

>or animal, it serves NO useful purpose to
>"appreciate" that some animals get to experience life because we eat them.

Yes it does. It's a necessary part of interpreting human influence on
animals in a realistic way. The ONLY reason there is for attempting to oppose
consideration of that significant aspect is because that aspect works against
the elimination objective.

>If it did you would have told us what that purpose is by now

I did tell you a number of times. You just can't afford to acknowledge what
it does ONLY because what it does works against elimination. Your opposition to
appreciating lives of positive value for livestock is one of the ways you reveal
yourself as an eliminationist, as I've pointed out to you over and over...

[dh]

On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:54:33 -0800, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:16:06 -0800, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Nov 2011 23:09:17 -0700, Gunner Asch <gunne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:29:05 -0700, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill <BretC...@peoplepc.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> "Getting to experience life" is not a benefit for livestock
>>>>>
>>>>>Wouldn't it be possible to just cut off part of the cow, say a leg,
>>>>>and eat that, and then fit the cow with an artificial prosthetic leg
>>>>>so it could still enjoy life in the feedlot?
>>>>>
>>>>>That way you could have a cow and eat it too!
>>>>
>>>> From the point of amputation life would probably be of negative value for
>>>>the animal, meaning it would not accomplish anything positive.
>>>
>>>So our returning vets with prosthesis are also living negative value
>>>lives?
>>
>> Not necessarily. Why did you think the situations would be identical, or
>>even similar enough to try comparing?
>
>Why would you be stupid enough to think they were NOT comparable?

They would only be comparable in situations where the returning vet was
raised to be eaten by humans, which is such a low percentage of the time that
it's not worth trying to think about realistically. I'm surprised that you were
stupid enough to be unaware of that. However, IF you think you know of some
examples of returning vets that were raised to be eaten by humans, then present
them and we can then try to compare the two situations. Go:

[dh]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:52:00 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>On Nov 4, 8:21 am, dh@. wrote:
>
>>........... Cage free layers in contrast do appear to usually have lives
>> of positive value, while their brothers again do not. Game chickens in general
>> imo usually appear to have lives of positive value and almost always better and
>> longer than broiler chickens.
>
>Hysterical anthropmorophical leftist diatribe,

LOL!!!! It's a fact. Do you think the fact that humans thriving in the US
usually appear to have better longer lives than people starving in Africa, is
hysterical anthropmorophical leftist diatribe too? If not, what do you think is
the difference do you have any idea?

>no wonder ewe and
>Simpleton and Dutch all get along so well while only pretending ewes
>dont.

Goo and his boy are opposed to most of the things I point out, because most
of the things I point out work against the elimination objective. Considering
how little you appear to "know" about animals, you're probably not even aware of
the differences between AW and the misnomer. Though you almost certainly can't
appreciate it, the biggest difference is: the animals. In that way you and the
goos are brothers, because they can't appreciate it either.

[Dutch]

<dh@.> wrote

> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:56:49 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

>>or animal, it serves NO useful purpose to
>>"appreciate" that some animals get to experience life because we eat them.
>
> Yes it does. It's a necessary part of interpreting human influence on
> animals in a realistic way.

Everyone *knows* that livestock exist because we consume them, so that's
false. No, you're lying, you're not simply trying to introduce a more
"realistic" interpretation, you are implying that there is some kind of
moral significance to it. There isn't.

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 9, 7:28 am, dh@. wrote:

> Do you think the fact that humans thriving in the US.........

The only time I comment and compare humans to animals is when I see
ewe humans carrying on and acting like animals.

It is your mind that can seperate ewe from the rat bat cat and chook,
if only ewe'd allow it.

The more like humans ewe humans treat animals the more like animals
ewe humans have become.

> Considering
> how little you appear to "know" about animals,

On the contrary, I am a farmer by trade and I "know" for a fact that
ewe nasal grunting socialists have become more like animals, pigs in
fact, and thats only because ewe keep treating and claiming animals
are no different to humans.

MG

[dh]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:23:06 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

>On Nov 9, 7:28 am, dh@. wrote:
>
>> Considering
>> how little you appear to "know" about animals,
>

>I am a farmer by trade

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering the fact that you "know" LESS than any other person I've ever
encountered regarding animals, I feel certain you're lying about that. But if
you want to TRY to pretend you are, what sort of animals do you want to pretend
to farm, do you have any idea?

[dh]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:45:22 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:25:50 -0800, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:56:49 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>>

>>>or animal, it serves NO useful purpose to
>>>"appreciate" that some animals get to experience life because we eat them.
>>
>> Yes it does. It's a necessary part of interpreting human influence on

>>animals in a realistic way. The ONLY reason there is for attempting to oppose
>>consideration of that significant aspect is because that aspect works against
>>the elimination objective.
>

>Everyone *knows* that livestock exist because we consume them, so that's
>false. No, you're lying, you're not simply trying to introduce a more
>"realistic" interpretation,

It is FAR more realistic to consider the lives of positive value, than it is
to try to pretend they don't exist.

>you are implying that there is some kind of
>moral significance to it. There isn't.

You're trying to ignore a very significant aspect of the situation ONLY
because it works against elimination. It's one of the ways you reveal yourself.

[Derek]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:09:29 -0800, dh@. wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:23:06 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz>wrote:
>>
>>I am a farmer by trade
>
> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Considering the fact that you "know" LESS than any other person I've ever
>encountered regarding animals, I feel certain you're lying about that.

No, that's not why he isn't a farmer. Think, Harrison! Try to think.
I'm an electrician by trade. My brother is an engineer by trade. My
neighbour across the street is a plumber by trade. Why? Because we all
come home at the end of the day and stop being tradespeople. A farmer
doesn't stop being a farmer at the end of each working day, and nor
does a policeman. Doctors don't, either. They refer to themselves as
farmers, policemen and doctors, period. A policeman never refers to
himself as a policeman by trade, and your doctor never refers to
himself as a doctor by trade, either. So, when someone tells you
they're a farmer by trade, you can be sure they're lying. Hope that
helps.

[Dutch]

<dh@.> wrote in message news:rtpob791p1m4lbam7...@4ax.com...

I'm not ignoring anything, I am giving the fact that animals exist because
we consume them NO weight, as you should.

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
<fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:

>>>
>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>> the central valley
>>
>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>
>I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.

Which "meth lab"? You mean like the ones found all over LA?

Odd...care to point out arrests for "meth labs" in Taft, California.

Then Ill do the same thing for the LA basin....snicker....laugh laugh
laugh.

Yes you could indeed probably buy the entire block. Yet there are people
who live in smaller properties in parts of LA that could buy YOUR entire
block.

Laugh laugh laugh...and your point is? That land in some places is
cheaper or more expensive than others?

I just closed a house in Redondo Beach that went for $975,000..and was
on a small city lot. It was 1800 sq feet and not all that nice a place.
And the back yard was on a 45' angle downwards.

And? This means what?

I can buy a 5 yr old home on a fenced 1 acre lot..with a 30x60 Butler
building on a 6" slab for $150k. And no neighbors either. And the lot
is flat as a billard table.

And a 65' x 120' lot in Beverly Hills goes for $2.5 million.

So which one is stupid? The owner of the acre and no neighbors..or the
urban rat in a house with a payment schedule that would feed and house
200 illegal aliens and their rug rats for 20 yrs?

>
>
>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>
>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>
>It's weed-choked and covered in trash.

Then you can provide some links to photos to this?

Or are you simply a shit sucking Leftwinger from the urban Ghetto called
LA?

>
>
>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>
>It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>maintenance.

Why should we? We rather like Private gravel roads. Keeps the riff raff
like you and yours out of the area.

We rather like that...ya know what I mean...Marv?

[Gunner Asch]

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:43:18 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"

LOL...he seems to be missing the other two lots that I own..right next
to mine..and behind mine.

<VBG>

[Warren E. Harrison]

Ha ha ha ha ha! Sure you do, gummer - sure you do.

Even if you did, gummer, they're the very definition of blight. Jesus,
you fuckwit - Kern County is blighted within the state of California,
Taft is one of the most blighted areas of Kern County, and Olive Avenue
is the perforated colon of Taft. You live in squalor, gummer - just
admit it. You live a shit life in a shithole. It's not for nothing
that you have to drive over 100 miles to Long Beach in order to earn a
few shekels to sustain your shitty existence on Olive Avenue.

[Warren E. Harrison]

On 11/11/2011 8:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>>> the central valley
>>>
>>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>>
>> I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>> equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>> of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>> Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.
>
> Which "meth lab"?

The ones up and down Olive Av. in Taft, the perforated colon of Kern
County, which is the armpit of California.

>>
>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>
>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>
>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>
> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?

I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.

>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>
>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>> maintenance.
>
> Why should we?

Because you want them, cocksucker.

> We rather like Private gravel roads. K

There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.

[Gunner Asch]

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:21:46 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"

<fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:

>On 11/11/2011 8:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>>>> the central valley
>>>>
>>>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>>>
>>> I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>>> equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>>> of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>>> Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.
>>
>> Which "meth lab"?
>
>The ones up and down Olive Av. in Taft, the perforated colon of Kern
>County, which is the armpit of California.

Odd...no arrests for that in the city or county logs. So why not trot
out your cites, rather than your fantasies?

>
>
>>>
>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>
>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>
>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>
>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>
>I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.

Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property? Care to provide it
here? Just so we can confirm it. Then Ill walk out and snap some photos
and post em on my Picasa page, from ground level?

And of course.. you can provide cites to "meth-contaminated shithole"
etc etc etc and we can be convinced its real..and not the hate filled
spew from a clueless buffoon.

Please do so. We will all be waiting with amused contempt for your
efforts.

>
>
>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>
>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>> maintenance.
>>
>> Why should we?
>
>Because you want them, cocksucker.

Want what cocksucker? Be specific cocksucker.

Say..you arent using homophobic hate speach, are you ...cocksucker
Leftwinger?

>
>
>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>
>There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.

There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed either cocksucker. <VBG>

Its actually a very nice road. Now some of my friends have gravel
roads..and your attempts to interject gravel roads into your insult
stream was met with the fact that most folks like gravel roads when they
live in the country.

Its much easier to clean up and shows fire marks and burns from totaled
vehicles belonging to those stupid cocksuckers who come out from Da Big
Shitty and make trouble. All one needs to do is take out the backhoe
and cover the bloodstains and burns with another inch of gravel..and
voila! good road again.

Speaking of which..good roads/bad roads..

http://www.city-data.com/forum/los-angeles/649828-los-angeles-worst-roads-united-states.html

Default Los Angeles: Worst roads in the United States
The American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials
released a report recently on road conditions in cities across the
country. Los Angeles was ranked as having the worst.

64% of the roads in the Los Angeles urbanized area were rated as
"poor". Only 3% of the roads are considered in "good" condition.

The poor road conditions add an additional $746 per year to the cost
of owning and operating an automobile in L.A. due to damaged tires,
suspensions and reduced fuel efficiency.

The best road conditions are in Atlanta, where 85% of the roads are
rated "good". Only 1% of the roads in Atlanta are rated "poor".

http://roughroads.transportation.org

"Major urban centers have the roughest roads – more than 60 percent of
the roads in the greater Los Angeles, San Jose, San Francisco-Oakland,
Honolulu and Washington, DC, areas offer a poor ride" per the report.

Seems Leftwingers do roads just as poorly as they do government.

Laugh laugh laugh!!

Gunner, who drives in the LA basin each week and has for 14 yrs. And
replaces shocks with great regularity.

[Gunner Asch]

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:13:56 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"

Your opinion..that of a Leftwinger who is sadly..mentally ill..is noted
with great amusement.

Say..speaking of urban blight..I had to drive to a client off Union
Pacific Ave today. My goodness but thats prime real estate in your
beloved LA....snicker.....

http://www.good.is/post/how-to-paddle-the-los-angeles-river/

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/North_America/United_States_of_America/California/Los_Angeles-753836/Warnings_or_Dangers-Los_Angeles-Unsafe_Areas-BR-1.html

http://www.rottenhoods.com/wp-content/themes/lcp_ylw_wp3/scripts/timthumb.php?src=http://www.rottenhoods.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/los-angeles-skid-row.jpg&&w=560&zc=1

http://askmissa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/homeless-in-los-angeles.jpg

Which one is yours?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/07/lawsuit-alleges-discrimination-against-homeless-people-with-service-dogs.html

http://www.belch.com/blog/2006/05/22/los-angeles-hates-the-homeless/

http://laist.com/2010/11/09/can_la_county_wipe_out_homelessness.php

<https://www.google.com/search?q=union+pacific+ave+los+angeles+ca+photos&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Y3t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1272&bih=586&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=W3W-TrHpM4LliAL-x_WiAw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAQ>

Laugh laugh laugh!!

Gunner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft,_California

[George Plimpton]

On 11/12/2011 5:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:21:46 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2011 8:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>>>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>>>>> the central valley
>>>>>
>>>>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>>>>
>>>> I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>>>> equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>>>> of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>>>> Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.
>>>
>>> Which "meth lab"?
>>
>> The ones up and down Olive Av. in Taft, the perforated colon of Kern
>> County, which is the armpit of California.
>
> Odd...no arrests for that in the city or county logs.

You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
into that.

>>>>
>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>
>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>
>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>
>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>
> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?

Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
shithole shack.

>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>
>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>> maintenance.
>>>
>>> Why should we?
>>
>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>
> Want what cocksucker?

You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
people in San Jose.

>>
>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>
>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>
> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed

There sure is. I posted a picture of it. Here's a link to the picture:
http://tinyurl.com/6urrdl4

It's a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed right in from of your shithole
shack, cocksucker.

[Warren E. Harrison]

I don't live anywhere near there, gummer. I don't even live in Los Angeles.

Taft is a shithole, gummer:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Taft-California.html The median
household income is not even 75% of the statewide median household
income. The median house price is less than 40% of the statewide median
house price. Christ, Taft doesn't even comopare well with Bakersfield,
and Bakersfield isn't exactly paradise, either.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Bakersfield-California.html

By contrast, gummer, the city where I live has a median household income
that is $2,000 above the statewide median household income, and the
median house price here is more than 60% above the statewide median
house price, and is more than four times the Taft median house price.

Taft is a shithole, gummer - that's why you live there. The fact you
live there makes it even more of a shithole than it already was.

[Warren E. Harrison]

On 11/12/2011 5:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:21:46 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>> On 11/11/2011 8:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>>>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>>>>> the central valley
>>>>>
>>>>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>>>>
>>>> I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>>>> equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>>>> of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>>>> Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.
>>>
>>> Which "meth lab"?
>>
>> The ones up and down Olive Av. in Taft, the perforated colon of Kern
>> County, which is the armpit of California.
>
> Odd...no arrests for that in the city or county logs.

You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
into that.


>>>>

>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>
>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>
>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>
>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>
> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?

Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
shithole shack.

>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>
>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>> maintenance.
>>>
>>> Why should we?
>>
>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>
> Want what cocksucker?

You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
people in San Jose.


>>

>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>
>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>
> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:41:54 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"

<fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:

>On 11/12/2011 5:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:21:46 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/11/2011 8:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>>>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>>>>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>>>>>> the central valley
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>>>>> equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>>>>> of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>>>>> Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.
>>>>
>>>> Which "meth lab"?
>>>
>>> The ones up and down Olive Av. in Taft, the perforated colon of Kern
>>> County, which is the armpit of California.
>>
>> Odd...no arrests for that in the city or county logs.
>
>You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
>into that.

Actually fucktard..I do know. And you have no..no idea of what role I
perform for the local cops. I did mention that I do gunsmithing on the
side..right?

And have regular bbqs..of which a number of my guests..are cop buddies.
We do tend to hang around together doncha know?

>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>>
>>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>>
>>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>>
>>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>>
>> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?
>
>Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
>shithole shack.

Where is that picture? Please advise.

>
>
>>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>
>>>> Why should we?
>>>
>>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>>
>> Want what cocksucker?
>
>You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
>people in San Jose.

Yes and? Of course we want streets. Doesnt everyone cocksucker?

>
>
>>>
>>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>>
>>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>>
>> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed
>
>There sure is. I posted a picture of it. Here's a link to the picture:
> http://tinyurl.com/6urrdl4
>
>It's a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed right in from of your shithole
>shack, cocksucker.

Of course its cracked cocksucker. Any idea of what the temperature in
the summer here is cocksucker? 107-115 on average cocksucker. And that
photo was taken in the early winter of 2008 cocksucker. That white car
belongs to a friend of mine who died in Febuary of that year cocksucker.
You do know that when the summer hits..those cracks fill themselves
in..right cocksucker? Something about the heating and cooling of
asphalt...but then..you dont know about the Real World..do you
cocksucker?

Now I seem to recall you spewing something about potholes cocksucker.
Care to provide cites and directions to them in those photos cocksucker?

As for the trash filled lot you were babbling about cocksucker? Where is
it cocksucker? The only photos from the lot across the street show
busted concrete (front porch) of the house that was there that burned
down in the summer of that year cocksucker. That has since been
removed..after all..its been 3 yrs+ cocksucker

Now about those links that I provided that show your area in LA...Union
Pacific Ave..Skid Row..etc etc....cocksucker?

Laugh laugh laugh cocksucker!

When one deals with a mentally ill gay leftwinger..its amusing to watch
all manner of shit spewing from their cocksucker lips. Afterall..what
goes in..always comes out. Cocksucker.


Gunner, who has used Cocksucker more times in this posting..than in all
of the earlier years of his life. Cocksucker

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:35:47 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"

Then you are admitting to have lied?

>
>Taft is a shithole, gummer:
>http://www.city-data.com/city/Taft-California.html The median
>household income is not even 75% of the statewide median household
>income. The median house price is less than 40% of the statewide median
>house price. Christ, Taft doesn't even comopare well with Bakersfield,
>and Bakersfield isn't exactly paradise, either.

Yes and? It certainly doesnt cost as much to live here either. <VBG>

>http://www.city-data.com/city/Bakersfield-California.html
>
>By contrast, gummer, the city where I live has a median household income
>that is $2,000 above the statewide median household income, and the
>median house price here is more than 60% above the statewide median
>house price, and is more than four times the Taft median house price.

So here we have a Leftwinger bragging about his Capitalism??????
Wont that get you in trouble with the rest of your Comrades????

>
>Taft is a shithole, gummer - that's why you live there. The fact you
>live there makes it even more of a shithole than it already was.

A Socialist property snob who lives in LA is pissing and moaning about a
guy who lives rural and spends far far less on taxes and services than
he does...and he thinks he is bright...ROFLMAO!!!

Son..my place is bought and paid for...with the deed in my safe. <VBG>

Ill bet you cant say the same. Wanna see it? Then Ill ask for yours
<VBG>

Im curious though..how much value did your dump lose in the past 4 yrs?

Laugh laugh laugh!

Mine went UP in value according to the local tax people. <VBG>

And guess what? I dont care. Its a place to live. Period. Its not an
investment, its not "money in the bank" and its not something I bought
to keep up with the Jones. Its warm, its dry, its comfortable and its a
nice place to sleep when Im not on the road fixing machinery all over
So. Cal. It also has a very nice "hobby" machine and welding shop to
putter around in. Plus some 6000 books, computer room, music room,
reloading shop and so forth. Works nicely for me and my friends. <VBG>

I see a cop car passing though, about once a month here in the
neighborhood. I dont have gunfire at 3am, I dont hear sirens, noisy
music (though some coyote howling and dogs barking in the distance) and
its nice and warm here during the spring and fall, though a bit cool in
winter and hot in the summer. Im 5 minutes from a decent rifle
range...out to 2000 meters..10 minutes from fishing, 15 minutes from a
nice lake for sailing, 2 hours from the coast, 2 hours from snow skiing,
2 hours from big lakes to the east...1 hour to the south...and the
county is nice and largely crime free..CCW are readily available (28 yrs
to date that Ive carried daily..handy in LA) and country music is king.

And you live in the shithole known as Southern California.

I note you snipped all the links to all the photos I provided..in shame
one assumes?

Now was there anything else you wished to spew your buffoonery about?

<VBG>

No? then begone back to the pool house you live in.

[Warren E. Harrison]

On 11/12/2011 1:32 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:41:54 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>> On 11/12/2011 5:01 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:21:46 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2011 8:58 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:52:40 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
>>>>> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's on Olive Av. in Taft - enough said. You could own half the town
>>>>>>>> and you'd still be stupid, because the town is a dump - the rectum of
>>>>>>>> the central valley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your opinion ..that of a basement dweller..is amusing indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I own a relatively small house in a suburb of Los Angeles. With the
>>>>>> equity I have in this house, I could buy your entire block - both sides
>>>>>> of the street. It wouldn't be worth it, though - it would be declared a
>>>>>> Superfund site in order to clean up the meth lab contamination.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which "meth lab"?
>>>>
>>>> The ones up and down Olive Av. in Taft, the perforated colon of Kern
>>>> County, which is the armpit of California.
>>>
>>> Odd...no arrests for that in the city or county logs.
>>
>> You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
>> into that.
>
> Actually fucktard..I do know.

Actually, blowjob, you don't know.

> And you have no..no idea of what role I
> perform for the local cops.

Butt-boy.

>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>>>
>>>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>>>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>>>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>>>
>>> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?
>>
>> Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
>> shithole shack.
>
> Where is that picture?

I already posted it to the newsgroup.

>>
>>>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should we?
>>>>
>>>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>>>
>>> Want what cocksucker?
>>
>> You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
>> people in San Jose.
>
> Yes and? Of course we want streets.

So you pay for them, cocksucker.

>>>>
>>>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>>>
>>>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>>>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>>>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>>>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>>>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>>>
>>> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed
>>
>> There sure is. I posted a picture of it. Here's a link to the picture:
>> http://tinyurl.com/6urrdl4
>>
>> It's a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed right in from of your shithole
>> shack, cocksucker.
>
> Of course its cracked

You said it wasn't, cocksucker. Just above, you wrote, "There isnt
[sic] a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed". You were lying, cocksucker.
Now you're making excuses for living in a shithole.

[Warren E. Harrison]

No, of course not. I never said I lived in Los Angeles.

>>
>> Taft is a shithole, gummer:
>> http://www.city-data.com/city/Taft-California.html The median
>> household income is not even 75% of the statewide median household
>> income. The median house price is less than 40% of the statewide median
>> house price. Christ, Taft doesn't even comopare well with Bakersfield,
>> and Bakersfield isn't exactly paradise, either.
>
> Yes and? It certainly doesnt cost as much to live here either.

Lucky for you, because you're barely scraping by as it is, and you
required Medi-Cal for your bypass surgery.

>> http://www.city-data.com/city/Bakersfield-California.html
>>
>> By contrast, gummer, the city where I live has a median household income
>> that is $2,000 above the statewide median household income, and the
>> median house price here is more than 60% above the statewide median
>> house price, and is more than four times the Taft median house price.
>
> So here we have a Leftwinger

Nope. I'm a libertarian lover of liberty.

>>
>> Taft is a shithole, gummer - that's why you live there. The fact you
>> live there makes it even more of a shithole than it already was.
>
> A Socialist property snob who lives in LA

Not socialist, don't live in L.A. ... but my compost bin is nicer than
your shack.

>
> Son..my place is bought and paid for...with

...illegally laundered drug money?

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 11, 9:09 am, dh@. wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:23:06 -0800 (PST), Michael Gordge <mikegor...@xtra.co.nz>

> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 9, 7:28 am, dh@. wrote:
>
> >> Considering
> >> how little you appear to "know" about animals,
>
> >I am a farmer by trade
>
>     LOL!

Oh so ewe like funny things do ewe? How about when the joke is on
ewe?

e.g. So how are ewe coming along with your explanation of the
lemming's "decision" to drown itself, the cows "decision" to eat the
grass which another cow has just pissed and shit on and the dog's
"decision" to lick your face after eating some rotting six week old
road kill?

MG

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 11, 7:38 am, Derek <usenet.em...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, when someone tells you
> they're a farmer by trade, you can be sure they're lying.

Nope, ewe can be sure "farmers by trade" have only ever seen humans
acting like animals (e.g. socialists and ewe animal rights fuckwits)
and ewe can be certain that "farmers by trade" have never seen animals
acting / behaving like humans but they have been seen animals acting
like socialists who are of course anti-human, e.g. pack-hunting human
eating animals, hope that helps, ewe fucking nauseating little anti-
human anthropomorphic socialist creep.

MG

[Dutch]

"Michael Gordge" <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz> wrote

Animals are socialists? LOL

[k...@kymhorsell.com]

In alt.philosophy Dutch <n...@email.com> wrote:
...

>> eating animals, hope that helps, ewe fucking nauseating little anti-
>> human anthropomorphic socialist creep.
> Animals are socialists? LOL

I liked the "anthropomorphic" comment. :)

If "anthropomorphising" then maybe it's just hypocrisy.

--
Scientists are always changing their story and as a Conservative, I
have no tolerance for ambiguity. It proves that all science is lies
and the only thing we can trust is right wing rhetoric.
-- BONZO@27-32-240-172 [daily nymshifter], 14 Jan 2011 14:46 +1100

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 13, 9:03 am, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
> "Michael Gordge" <mikegor...@xtra.co.nz> wrote

No ewe stupid cunt, socialists behave like, act like animals.

MG

[Dutch]

"Michael Gordge" <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz> wrote

You said "animals acting like socialists". When is that, when they share
bananas?

[Dutch]

"Michael Gordge" <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:0f2e8b29-8513-432c...@u10g2000prl.googlegroups.com...

Want to know why the human species has been so spectacularly successful?

Hint: it wasn't because of an "every man for himself" philosophy. The
socialist idea that we're all in this mess together is the reason. When I'm
down or in trouble others are there to help me up. Then when they're down
I'm able to return the favour. Ever wonder why every day ordinary people
risk injury or death to come to the aid of complete strangers? Is it because
they're acting like animals? Capitalism works in a social system when it is
liberally seasoned with socialist balances.

You're a throwback Grunge, an inward looking self-involved knuckle-dragging
Neanderthal, it's no coincidence that you sound like one. Come to think of
it, I doubt if you're even descended from Homo Sapiens, you probably *are* a
Neanderthal.

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 13, 9:26 am, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> Want to know why the human species has been so spectacularly successful?

Stupid cunt, man's "spectacular success" took 10's of thousands of
years to manifest and the manifest happened in the space of less than
150 years, after 10's of thousands of years of utter misery, ever
wondered why and how that success began and continues to happen in
spite of every attempt by ewe nauseating nasal grunters over the last
120 years to hinder and stop it.

From roughly 1770 until 1920 man, western man, progressed more over
that 150 year period than he had at any time over the previous 10,000
years, ever wondered why and how it happend so suddenly, after 10's of
thousands of years of cave-man knuckle-dragging religionist self-
sacrifing misery?

Clue, fuckwit, it had NOTHING to do with socialism.

MG

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 13, 9:17 am, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> You said "animals acting like socialists".

Here, read what I DID write, ewe fucking depserate context dropping
cowardly dishonest leftist fuckwit.

".....have been seen animals acting like socialists who are of course

anti-human, e.g. pack-hunting human
eating animals,"

"pack-hunting animals" are acting like ewe anti-human socialists, ewe
stupid cunt.

MG

[Gunner Asch]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:47:28 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
<fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:

>>>
>>> You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
>>> into that.
>>
>> Actually fucktard..I do know.
>
>Actually, blowjob, you don't know.

Actually Fecal Plunge..I do know. Any idea of the size of this town?
19,000 souls live here.

And I called a buddy of mine and asked him. Lieutenant on the local PD.

Nope..no drug labs on this street. Never have been.
Maricopa had 2 over the past 40 yrs. One in the city limits..one
outside.

Been a bunch of druggies busted here..but virtually all the tweak that
entered this town came from labs over near Boron/Indio
Labs run by your friends for the most part. Mexicans.

>
>
>> And you have no..no idea of what role I
>> perform for the local cops.
>
>Butt-boy.

Really? Cites? The drooling buffoonery from a cocksucker such as you
is noted with amusement and derision.

Oh..I forget.."cocksucker". Its not a term I use very often..so I tend
to forget it when posting to a gay ol blade like yourself.

>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>>>>
>>>>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>>>>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>>>>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>>>>
>>>> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?
>>>
>>> Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
>>> shithole shack.
>>
>> Where is that picture?
>
>I already posted it to the newsgroup.

Oddly enough..I saw a picture of an empty lot with a couple young
mulberry trees growing on it and a small pile of concrete block chucks
over next to the fence line. Care to point ot the weed choked trash
covered part? err..Cocksucker.

>
>
>>>
>>>>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why should we?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>>>>
>>>> Want what cocksucker?
>>>
>>> You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
>>> people in San Jose.
>>
>> Yes and? Of course we want streets.
>
>So you pay for them, cocksucker.

Of course I do. Any idea of how much taxes I pay each week in fuel taxes
alone? I drive 45-50,000 miles per year.

Now was there any other question..cocksucker?

>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>>>>
>>>>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>>>>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>>>>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>>>>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>>>>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>>>>
>>>> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed
>>>
>>> There sure is. I posted a picture of it. Here's a link to the picture:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/6urrdl4
>>>
>>> It's a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed right in from of your shithole
>>> shack, cocksucker.
>>
>> Of course its cracked
>
>You said it wasn't, cocksucker. Just above, you wrote, "There isnt
>[sic] a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed". You were lying, cocksucker.
>Now you're making excuses for living in a shithole.

No..cocksucker..I said it wasnt a shitty road with potholes as you
claimed. Virtually every road in the desert shows those sorts of cracks.
Comes from the heat in the summer time.

Which are far better than the potholed, ragged, cracked, decaying
streets in So. Cal..least in LA county. As my previous link showed quite
handily. ...er..cocksucker.

Now was there anything else you wished to spew before putting you in the
gay walker killfile?

Gunner

[Gunner Asch]

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:50:37 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
<fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:

>>
>> Then you are admitting to have lied?
>
>No, of course not. I never said I lived in Los Angeles.

Again you lie like a fucking cat shit covered rug.

But you are a Leftwinger..so its expected.

>
>
>>>
>>> Taft is a shithole, gummer:
>>> http://www.city-data.com/city/Taft-California.html The median
>>> household income is not even 75% of the statewide median household
>>> income. The median house price is less than 40% of the statewide median
>>> house price. Christ, Taft doesn't even comopare well with Bakersfield,
>>> and Bakersfield isn't exactly paradise, either.
>>
>> Yes and? It certainly doesnt cost as much to live here either.
>
>Lucky for you, because you're barely scraping by as it is, and you
>required Medi-Cal for your bypass surgery.

Medi-Cal? Im not on Medi-Cal. Im not on anything.

Im not old enough for most of the Giveaway Plans.

>
>
>>> http://www.city-data.com/city/Bakersfield-California.html
>>>
>>> By contrast, gummer, the city where I live has a median household income
>>> that is $2,000 above the statewide median household income, and the
>>> median house price here is more than 60% above the statewide median
>>> house price, and is more than four times the Taft median house price.
>>
>> So here we have a Leftwinger
>
>Nope. I'm a libertarian lover of liberty.

No. you are a Leftwinger of the worst sort. Sadly obvious and a gay one
at that. Not that anyone cares that you are a cocksucker..its that
Socialst part of your personality that makes you a fucktard.

>
>
>>>
>>> Taft is a shithole, gummer - that's why you live there. The fact you
>>> live there makes it even more of a shithole than it already was.
>>
>> A Socialist property snob who lives in LA
>
>Not socialist, don't live in L.A. ... but my compost bin is nicer than
>your shack.

A fucking socialist who bragged about living in LA. So again you show
yourself to be a liar of the worst sort. But then..thats expected from
leftists.

>
>
>>
>> Son..my place is bought and paid for...with
>
>...illegally laundered drug money?

What..you offering me a bribe? Sorry spud..I dont bribe worth a
shit..and I turn you into the cops for trying.

How much again were you offering?

Oh..I forwarded this post to those keeping the List as well. With
luck..they will respond in the positive.

[Dutch]

"Michael Gordge" <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz> wrote

> On Nov 13, 9:26 am, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Want to know why the human species has been so spectacularly successful?
>
> Stupid cunt, man's "spectacular success" took 10's of thousands of
> years to manifest and the manifest happened in the space of less than
> 150 years,

Bullshit, the success of homo sapiens has been manifesting since the very
beginning, aided by the exploitation of social structures like organized
cooperation.

[Dutch]

"Michael Gordge" <mikeg...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

news:f0c126ff-c138-4725...@k5g2000pre.googlegroups.com...

You're definitely Neanderthal, it's settled.

[Shall not be infringed]

On Oct 31, 2:55 pm, notgen...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/the-pathology-of-depe...

They're pathetic. Mostly.

Howard Stern had a couple of PITA ladies on his show a few years back.

Inside of two minutes they had their tops off and making out with each
other.

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 13, 12:23 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> Bullshit,

Stop arguing with reality, ewe stupid cunt, face the facts as stated,
in a period of just 150 years after 10's of thousands of years of
misery, from roughly 1770 - 1920 man progressed more during that
period than he had at any time in the previous 10 thousand years, e.g.
from horse saddle and cart to jetting around the globe and landing on
the moon in the space of less than 180 years.


MG

[Michael Gordge]

On Nov 13, 12:24 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
> "Michael Gordge" <mikegor...@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message

Its not about me, ewe dopey cunt, its about ewe fuckwits acting and
behaving like animals. Ewe're the fuckwit who wants your ideas
behaviour and actions compared to that of rats, dingbats and mice, so
I'm obliging ewe, ewe fucking idiot.

MG

[Warren E. Harrison]

On 11/12/2011 5:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:47:28 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
>>>> into that.
>>>
>>> Actually fucktard..I do know.
>>
>> Actually, blowjob, you don't know.
>
> Actually Fecal Plunge..I do know. Any idea of the size of this town?
> 19,000 souls live here.
>
> And I called a buddy of mine and asked him. Lieutenant on the local PD.
>
> Nope..no drug labs on this street. Never have been.
> Maricopa had 2 over the past 40 yrs. One in the city limits..one
> outside.
>
> Been a bunch of druggies busted here..but virtually all the tweak that
> entered this town came from labs over near Boron/Indio
> Labs run by your friends for the most part. Mexicans.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> And you have no..no idea of what role I
>>> perform for the local cops.
>>
>> Butt-boy.
>
> Really? Cites?

You admitted it earlier.

>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>>>>>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>>>>>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?
>>>>
>>>> Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
>>>> shithole shack.
>>>
>>> Where is that picture?
>>
>> I already posted it to the newsgroup.
>
> Oddly enough..I saw a picture of an empty lot with

...with weeds and trash. Yes. That's the one I posted.

>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>>>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>>>>>

>>>>> Want what?

>>>>
>>>> You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
>>>> people in San Jose.
>>>
>>> Yes and? Of course we want streets.
>>
>> So you pay for them, cocksucker.
>
> Of course I do.

You don't pay for them, cocksucker. You want freshly paved streets for
free.

>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>>>>>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>>>>>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>>>>>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>>>>>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed
>>>>
>>>> There sure is. I posted a picture of it. Here's a link to the picture:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6urrdl4
>>>>
>>>> It's a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed right in from of your shithole
>>>> shack, cocksucker.
>>>
>>> Of course its cracked
>>
>> You said it wasn't, cocksucker. Just above, you wrote, "There isnt
>> [sic] a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed". You were lying, cocksucker.
>> Now you're making excuses for living in a shithole.
>

> No...I said it wasnt a shitty road with potholes as you

I didn't say anything about potholes, cocksucker. I said it was
cracked. It is - badly.

> Virtually every road in the desert

You don't live in the desert, cocksucker.

gummer, I drove by your shithole shack late this afternoon. I was
driving from L.A. up to Sacramento to see people I know, and I took a
little detour over Copus Road to Gardner Field Road to Cadet Road to
West Side Hwy to Wood St. to Olive Av. I turned right on Olive, and
there was your little shitty hovel at the second address on the right:
326 Olive Av. That area is even more blighted than shows up on the
Google Maps picture. Among other things, gummer, the street is cracked
far worse than what shows in that Google Maps photo - *much* worse. But
here's the other thing, gummer: you blamed it on the heat, but other
streets in Taft aren't that badly cracked. Face the facts, gummer: you
live in the shitty section of town, and you have shitty streets because
you're nobodies.

I really did drive by your shithole shack, gummer. I even saw that
crappy red and white sailboat you have parked in the front yard. What's
that for, gummer? Do you go sailing on the oil spills when they occur?
There's no water around there for miles, gummer.

Did you see my car, gummer? It was a gray VW Jetta. I drove by your
shithole about 4:50pm on Saturday. Just one word to describe it,
gummer: squalor.

[George Plimpton]

On 11/12/2011 5:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:47:28 -0800, "Warren E. Harrison"
> <fuckwit's.d...@shitbags.con> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> You don't know - you didn't look. You don't have the ability to look
>>>> into that.
>>>
>>> Actually fucktard..I do know.
>>
>> Actually, blowjob, you don't know.
>
> Actually Fecal Plunge..I do know. Any idea of the size of this town?
> 19,000 souls live here.
>
> And I called a buddy of mine and asked him. Lieutenant on the local PD.
>
> Nope..no drug labs on this street. Never have been.
> Maricopa had 2 over the past 40 yrs. One in the city limits..one
> outside.
>
> Been a bunch of druggies busted here..but virtually all the tweak that
> entered this town came from labs over near Boron/Indio
> Labs run by your friends for the most part. Mexicans.
>
>
>>
>>
>>> And you have no..no idea of what role I
>>> perform for the local cops.
>>
>> Butt-boy.
>
> Really? Cites?

You admitted it earlier.

>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The cracked street is like a fucking washboard. There's a weed-choked
>>>>>>>>>> vacant lot across the street from you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its also in the desert.<VBG>. Weed choked? Its in the fucking
>>>>>>>>> desert. We dont have "weed choked"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's weed-choked and covered in trash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you can provide some links to photos to this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already did, gummer. I supplied not just a link, but the actual photo
>>>>>> of the weed-choked and trash-strewn lot across the street from your
>>>>>> meth-contaminated shithole at 326 Olive Av. in Taft.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh..so you provided a picture of some other property?
>>>>
>>>> Of the weed-choked trash-covered property across the street from your
>>>> shithole shack.
>>>
>>> Where is that picture?
>>
>> I already posted it to the newsgroup.
>
> Oddly enough..I saw a picture of an empty lot with

...with weeds and trash. Yes. That's the one I posted.



>>>>

>>>>>>>>> And the street? Democrats in Sacramento's responsiblity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's your city's and county's responsibility. But Kern County is
>>>>>>>> chock-full with fuckers like you who won't even pay for basic street
>>>>>>>> maintenance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should we?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because you want them, cocksucker.
>>>>>

>>>>> Want what?

>>>>
>>>> You want the streets, cocksucker. They're for your use, not the use of
>>>> people in San Jose.
>>>
>>> Yes and? Of course we want streets.
>>
>> So you pay for them, cocksucker.
>
> Of course I do.

You don't pay for them, cocksucker. You want freshly paved streets for
free.


>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> We rather like Private gravel roads. K
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There isn't a Private [sic - ha ha ha!] gravel road running in front of
>>>>>> the Mark Wieber shithole on Olive Av in Taft, gummer. What there is is
>>>>>> a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed that indicates shitholeness. You live
>>>>>> in a shithole, gummer. You live in a shithole because it's the best you
>>>>>> can do. You live in a shithole, gummer, because you are shit.
>>>>>
>>>>> There isnt a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed
>>>>
>>>> There sure is. I posted a picture of it. Here's a link to the picture:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6urrdl4
>>>>
>>>> It's a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed right in from of your shithole
>>>> shack, cocksucker.
>>>
>>> Of course its cracked
>>
>> You said it wasn't, cocksucker. Just above, you wrote, "There isnt
>> [sic] a shitty cracked asphalt roadbed". You were lying, cocksucker.
>> Now you're making excuses for living in a shithole.
>

> No...I said it wasnt a shitty road with potholes as you

I didn't say anything about potholes, cocksucker. I said it was
cracked. It is - badly.

> Virtually every road in the desert