On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:18:22 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
> What is the closest Black-Friday comparison between the unlocked $100
> Motorola G7 & whatever iPhone seems to be the best overall comparison fit?
UPDATE:
Since every thread to Usenet should add value to the potluck...
To continue to add value to Usenet in every post, I bought a handful of
these $100 64GB/4GB/8-core Motorola G7 phablets from Google as stocking
stuffers, where I should warn others of a set of 'details' you might wish
to know about that I only learned during the process of purchasing them.
First, and foremost, you need to have or create a Google Fi account, which
itself seems to require a Google login, but if you use your normal Google
login, and if that normal Google login has a "Google Voice" phone number,
Google will _force_ you to abdicate that GV phone number for the phone,
where you have no choice otherwise.
Worse, if you drop the Google Fi account (which, of course, I plan on
doing), then you _lose_ your Google Voice number altogether (according to
what Google stated in the terms).
Hence, you simply need to create a _new_ Google account (easily enough
done), in order to retain your old Google Voice phone number in all its
glory.
Secondly, if you purchase more than one, as I did, you _must_ have them all
on the exact same Google Fi plan (there is no mixing & matching allowed),
even if you don't want that. So, again, the trick is simply to create a
_separate_ Google account for each $100 Moto G7 you purchase.
Thirdly, surprisingly, the tax on the $100 phone was only about $9, where
often I end up paying taxes on a full MSRPP (which would be, oh, about $300
or about $30 in taxes alone), where I'm not sure why the difference, but
I'm happy that the taxes were on the actual sales amount, and not on some
inflated arbitrarily huge MSRPP amount.
Fourth, the shipping is free, which is always a good thing.
Fifth, the cheapest Google Fi plan I saw on the choice page was the $20 per
month, with an additional charge of $10/GB (none of which do I plan on
using before I kill the Google Fi account altogether).
Sixth, apparently a Google One cloud storage account is automatically
applied to the Google Fi account, again, none of which I plan on using as I
feel cloud-storage accounts are for people who aren't in the least
technical (e.g., they try to hook you into renting your data forever).
o Do people of reasonable technical ability store their private data on the
Internet (if so, for what gain?)
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That's about it for what I learned by ordering the $100 Moto G
64GB/4GB/+expansion slot/dual-sim phone on Google, where I'll learn, once I
receive the phones, how hard it is to activate & inactivate, which I don't
anticipate being difficult.
As for the phone itself, most of you know I started my "smartphone" history
started after the analog Motorola flip phones with that pull-out antenna,
with the $400 Kyocera's on Verizon, but got upset with Verizon for
re-initializing my 2-year contract simply for replacing the phone under the
insurance plan, so I went with AT&T the first chance I could get.
On AT&T, I had blackberries, but the clit kept breaking, so I moved to the
Motorola flip-phone razors, which we all had for years, until AT&T refused
to granfather the no-data plan on a smartphone, so I summarily dropped AT&T
in favor of T-Mobile who didn't care (at that time) whether I had data or
not, nor where the phone came from, which was great for me since I buy my
phones outright nowadays.
Speaking of buying phones outright, in consumer electronics, everything
gets better faster and cheaper over time, EXCEPT highly marketed Apple
devices, which truly shows the fantastic power of marketing over highly
gullible people.
o Does the best price:performance choice in any common consumer electronics
device NOT get better, faster, and CHEAPER over time?
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Nonetheless, I've purchased plenty of iOS iPads, iPods, and iPhones over
the years, where I vastly prefer Android over iOS simply because of the
VALUE and FUNCTIONALITY (e.g., there's _nothing_ by way of app
functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android, and yet, there's plenty
on Android that isn't on iOS).
o What functionality you do on iOS you wish you could do on Android?
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o Is there any software functionality in the new iPhone 11 that isn't
already in an average 5-year old Android phone?
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Likewise, there's plenty hardware on Android not on even the most
horrifically expensive iOS devices, while there's nothing on iOS devices by
way of hardware that is functionally better than equivalently priced
Android hardware.
o Q: Is there any functional hardware on iPhones not ALREADY on Android?
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o What is the logic behind the fact that Apple limits users' choice of
hardware FM radios?
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In addition, the resale value of well-chosen Android devices literally
kills that of iOS devices (in that the overall cost of ownership of iOS
devices is utterly atrocious) where, for example, my $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus
sells, used, for a huge proportion of that price, where you'd be hard
pressed even today to find a new LG Stylo 3 Plus at that price (most are at
least $150 even two years after I bought my handful for $130 at Costco).
o Facts: Resale value of my Android phone, 2 years later is more than 100%
- while a similar iPhone is at 20% resale value (used)
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And, take note, the removable battery on that 2-year old $130 LG Stylo 3
Plus still works fine, even as LG hasn't tried to secretly, drastically,
and permanently throttle the CPU in half, simply due to poor Apple design:
o Do any Android phone manufacturers throttle (CPUs, PD Charging, Modems)
like Apple consistently does?
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*Fancy that there's no need to throttle my CPU to less than half speed!*
Notice that the $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus stocking stuffers were about one fifth
the price of the iPhone 7 Plus, and yet, had MORE hardware & software
functionality in most cases, than anything Apple has ever sold.
o Phablet stocking stuffers: iPhone 7 versus LG Stylo 3 Plus
price/performance hardware comparison
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In this case, the $100 Moto G7 (64GB/4GB/dual-sim/sdcard/etc.) again
literally kills the Apple competition in terms of price to value; however,
there are a few things I've found out by belated research where the $100
Moto G7 isn't all that good (which, for the price, is to be accepted):
a. It's not 5G
b. The pictures are "just ok" (apparently the Google Camera APK helps)
c. The loudspeaker is "just ok"
That's about it for major flaws, where we have to accept this is a $100
64GB/4GB/dual-sim/+expansion slot phone after all.
I'll update this thread when the handful of $100 Moto G7 phones arrive.
o If you have experience with Google Fi or the Moto G7, let us know.
Most importantly, if you know which Apple iPhone best compares in hardware
functionality to the $100 Moto G7, let us know, as that's the main point of
this thread after all.
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All consumer electronics EXCEPT highly marketed Apple devices, tend to get
better, faster and cheaper over time.