Not for wrong to lojban but to improving lojban
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buro...@yahoo.co.uk
Jul 3, 2012, 6:14:51 AM7/3/12
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coi
some suggested ideas:
(1) writing from right to left, where positive bodies in the nature
revolove around itself from right to left, where positive is good and
negative is evil "something from philosophy".
(2) writing bridi lines from down to up of page, because from the
politeing behaviour that something transcends and does not fall
"something from philosophy".
(3) we can add to optimal dictionary which I suggested before a
literal meaning "not wrong".
and we should add "persons names" from other languages dictionaries.
(4) we can contain all posipilities, so we can contain all letters in
the existence where there is two versions of letter light and heavy I
suggest capital letter is heavy and small letter is light "e.g.
lojban X and french r where french r can writen in small letter x, and
lojban R and lojban r where R is like italian r and lojban r like
english r" and so on...
(5) I see not wrong if we use some special characters such as "? for
asking and ! for wondering and - between compound words and , for
quick stoping" "maybe add something to logical lojban connective".
co'o
ki'es-di'es
some suggested ideas:
(1) writing from right to left, where positive bodies in the nature
revolove around itself from right to left, where positive is good and
negative is evil "something from philosophy".
(2) writing bridi lines from down to up of page, because from the
politeing behaviour that something transcends and does not fall
"something from philosophy".
(3) we can add to optimal dictionary which I suggested before a
literal meaning "not wrong".
and we should add "persons names" from other languages dictionaries.
(4) we can contain all posipilities, so we can contain all letters in
the existence where there is two versions of letter light and heavy I
suggest capital letter is heavy and small letter is light "e.g.
lojban X and french r where french r can writen in small letter x, and
lojban R and lojban r where R is like italian r and lojban r like
english r" and so on...
(5) I see not wrong if we use some special characters such as "? for
asking and ! for wondering and - between compound words and , for
quick stoping" "maybe add something to logical lojban connective".
co'o
ki'es-di'es
Jonathan Jones
Jul 3, 2012, 6:44:03 AM7/3/12
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What little of this I can understand, I am completely opposed to. All of these suggestions are either based in something opposed to Lojban or are just stupid. As to which they are, I don't know, because I can't understand the author well enough.
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gleki
Jul 3, 2012, 7:23:29 AM7/3/12
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coi .ki'es.di'es.
mi'e la gleki
.i mi mutce gleki lo nu do jbobau cilre troci
.i xu do pu troci lo nu zbasu lo jbobau jufra
.i ta'o .au do fanva la'o gy. The Reference Grammar gy. fi lo rabybau ca da
.i ta'o .au do fanva la'o gy. The Reference Grammar gy. fi lo rabybau ca da
Ross Ogilvie
Jul 3, 2012, 7:51:30 AM7/3/12
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Hey ki'es.di'es
With regards to point (5), this has been discussed. A scheme to use punctuation (characters like ? and ") to aid clarity in texts can be found here
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/typography
This page also links to a discussion about using punctuation and also to a table of listing what characters have what use.
The first two points, (1) and (2), lojban can be written in many different ways. Each different way is called a "mode" or "orthography". Normally we use the 'latin mode', but some people have developed others. Lots of them are posted on jboctan.org . You may find the arabic orthography interesting http://jbotcan.org/ideas/#629 . It can be fun to play around with different scripts, but the latin one is very dominant. On the other hand, they should all be bijective mappings of each other, so easy to display it however you want.
Your other points I do not understand.
mu'o mi'e ros
With regards to point (5), this has been discussed. A scheme to use punctuation (characters like ? and ") to aid clarity in texts can be found here
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/typography
This page also links to a discussion about using punctuation and also to a table of listing what characters have what use.
The first two points, (1) and (2), lojban can be written in many different ways. Each different way is called a "mode" or "orthography". Normally we use the 'latin mode', but some people have developed others. Lots of them are posted on jboctan.org . You may find the arabic orthography interesting http://jbotcan.org/ideas/#629 . It can be fun to play around with different scripts, but the latin one is very dominant. On the other hand, they should all be bijective mappings of each other, so easy to display it however you want.
Your other points I do not understand.
mu'o mi'e ros
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Pierre Abbat
Jul 3, 2012, 7:57:07 AM7/3/12
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On Tuesday 03 July 2012 06:14:51 buro...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> coi
>
> some suggested ideas:
>
> (1) writing from right to left, where positive bodies in the nature
> revolove around itself from right to left, where positive is good and
> negative is evil "something from philosophy".
lo ciska farna cu se ckaji lo ciska ciste .i lo lojbo cu se ciska mo'iri'uku
> coi
>
> some suggested ideas:
>
> (1) writing from right to left, where positive bodies in the nature
> revolove around itself from right to left, where positive is good and
> negative is evil "something from philosophy".
fi'o lerfu lo latmo
> (2) writing bridi lines from down to up of page, because from the
> politeing behaviour that something transcends and does not fall
> "something from philosophy".
> (3) we can add to optimal dictionary which I suggested before a
> literal meaning "not wrong".
> and we should add "persons names" from other languages dictionaries.
> (4) we can contain all posipilities, so we can contain all letters in
> the existence where there is two versions of letter light and heavy I
> suggest capital letter is heavy and small letter is light "e.g.
> lojban X and french r where french r can writen in small letter x, and
> lojban R and lojban r where R is like italian r and lojban r like
> english r" and so on...
> (5) I see not wrong if we use some special characters such as "? for
> asking and ! for wondering and - between compound words and , for
> quick stoping" "maybe add something to logical lojban connective".
slaka be ne'i lo mintu valsi
mu'omi'e .pier.
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gleki
Jul 3, 2012, 9:44:57 AM7/3/12
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Whatever la .ki'es.di'es. writes here he has made the right decision to join the Lojban community. pe'i no community in the world can be called intellectual elite as I can say it about Lojbanistan cuz the others use broken natural languages with their burden of broken semantics accumulated during their long historical development.
Jonathan Jones
Jul 3, 2012, 10:05:58 AM7/3/12
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I'll agree that Lojban makes certain kinds of communication easier, but the intellectual capacity of an individual is not determined by language. Further, your reasoning is flawed for the simple reason that, there being no native speakers of Lojban- except Robin's twins, eventually- the mere fact that we were all raised in a different language than Lojban, and as such developed our relative intellectual prowess' in the environment of those languages, flies directly in the face of your statement.
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la .lindar.
Jul 3, 2012, 7:35:05 PM7/3/12
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I don't think ey ever checks these responses. Has ey ever posted more than once to a thread?
Maybe that's why we've never gotten through regarding "we don't understand you".
Robin Lee Powell
Jul 3, 2012, 7:50:50 PM7/3/12
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On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 04:35:05PM -0700, la .lindar. wrote:
> I don't think ey ever checks these responses. Has ey ever posted
> more than once to a thread?
Not that I've noticed.
> I don't think ey ever checks these responses. Has ey ever posted
> more than once to a thread?
> Maybe that's why we've never gotten through regarding "we don't
> understand you".
it goes.
-Robin
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ianek
Jul 4, 2012, 3:44:44 PM7/4/12
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Yes, ey did.
Ey even responded to me.
https://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/bd45fb6463d36baf
Another example:
https://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/667602430ee0fc2f
Ey responds to "we don't understand you", but never to "please write
in Arabic".
Ey even responded to me.
https://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/bd45fb6463d36baf
Another example:
https://groups.google.com/group/lojban/msg/667602430ee0fc2f
Ey responds to "we don't understand you", but never to "please write
in Arabic".
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