bristol 27 weekender - keel's heel peeling

[drgonzo]

hi, i just got this bristol 27 weekender. all in all in a good shape except for the area on the heel of the keel it seems to be peeling apart.
i am not sure what it is behind the area and how to fix it. might be lead, fiberglass, the bilge ? any of your ideas and or advice is welcome.

[Jack Brennan]

That’s kind of a big “except.”

 

Assuming the boat is on the hard and the keel is dry, you need to get a grinder and go at it until there is no more damaged fiberglass. Then either hire a fiberglass guy or rebuild the keel yourself.

 

My bet is, that far back, there’s no lead there. It probably leads into the bilge. Myself, I would hire a pro to make sure the job is done correctly on a critical area like that.

 

West System epoxy has a lot of instructional material on its web site to help you along if you do it yourself.

 

Good luck with the project. I hope you got a good price on the boat.

 

Jack Brennan
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Fort Lauderdale, Fl.

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[Eatreulich]

Isn't the keel shoe behind that? Could that just be fairing material?

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[Jim Baumgartner]

That looks like the router shoot me too.

Jim Baumgartner

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From: drgonzo <bbro...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 22:52:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Bristol Yachts:1253] bristol 27 weekender - keel's heel peeling

hi, i just got this bristol 27 weekender. all in all in a good shape except for the area on the heel of the keel it seems to be peeling apart.
i am not sure what it is behind the area and how to fix it. might be lead, fiberglass, the bilge ? any of your ideas and or advice is welcome.

[Jim Baumgartner]

You also need to move the stands to a different position and get the chain off the rudder pin.

Jim Baumgartner

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From: drgonzo <bbro...@gmail.com>
To: bristol...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 22:52:45 GMT+00:00
Subject: [Bristol Yachts:1253] bristol 27 weekender - keel's heel peeling

hi, i just got this bristol 27 weekender. all in all in a good shape except for the area on the heel of the keel it seems to be peeling apart.
i am not sure what it is behind the area and how to fix it. might be lead, fiberglass, the bilge ? any of your ideas and or advice is welcome.

[Craig Marden]

What year is this B27?  I had to remove my B27 rudder a few years back. Mine does not have the same rudder shoe.  I can send pics when I am at my boat next. I wonder if water in the bilge froze?  Is there damage on the other side?  

[Wayne Batcheler]

This looks like damage from freezing water in the bilge, because the fiberglass has peeled off as if pushed from inside. There may be some delamination higher up as well. On some of these boats that area is packed with sawdust.

 

You are going to have to drop the rudder and repair the rudder shoe area as well. Mark the position of the rudder shoe on the hull with lines that extend away from the area to be repaired, so that after the repair you can bolt it on again in the same relative position. This would be a good time to service the rudder stuffing box and replace the stuffing box hose also. The rudder shoe you have is not original equipment, but it should be just fine if it is bolted through solid fiberglass.

 

Although you could do this repair yourself, I would at least get a diagnosis from a pro, who may be willing to let you perform some of the work yourself at his/her direction.

 

Next winter, if the boat is going to be on the hard, pour some antifreeze into the bilge.

 

Wayne Batcheler

 

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[drgonzo]

thank you Jack ! i am thinking about hiring not a surveyor but a professional from a boatyard to check this problem area, as well as others and the boat in general before i start work on the 'wrong thing'. i have done some fiberglass work before but on a car. just downloaded the West System manual with great advice. i think i can do it.
yes i got the boat relatively cheap :>)

[drgonzo]

thanks for the advice Jim!

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:17:15 PM UTC-4, Makaha Jim wrote:

You also need to move the stands to a different position and get the chain off the rudder pin.

Jim Baumgartner

[drgonzo]

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 8:27:38 PM UTC-4, S/V Dawn Treader II wrote:

What year is this B27?  I had to remove my B27 rudder a few years back. Mine does not have the same rudder shoe.  I can send pics when I am at my boat next. I wonder if water in the bilge froze?  Is there damage on the other side?  

it is a 1966. the damage look the same from the other side. i will take more pics on the weekend. would appreciate any of your pictures and or advice ! thank you !

[drgonzo]

thank you Wayne ! wow sawdust ? great advice on the rudder shoe and rebolting. this might sound silly but i am new in sailing, what is the stuffing box and stuffing hose, ?
and of course, clever with the anti freeze, that would save a bit of work !>)

[drgonzo]

thanks Etre ! i will find out when i start the grinding :>)