JFK Assassination Forum Archives -- Misc. Topics Of Interest (Part 115)

>>> "I've heard this clip [linked above] before and it is remarkable, but I always wondered how odd it was that people would be attending a concert by the Boston Symphony somewhere around 4-4:30 in the afternoon, even if it was a Friday. JFK was pronounced dead at about 1 p.m in Texas so word would get out to the nation between then & let's say within the next 20-30 min. Whether it was 2 or 3 hrs difference between Texas & East Coast, still wasn't it kind of early for a symphony concert?" <<<

You've raised a good point about the "afternoon" concert on 11/22/63.
And it's the exact same question that I myself have asked for years
too.

I've never actually confirmed the location of the Boston Symphony
concert when conductor Erich Leinsdorf made his announcement to the
crowd. I have speculated in the past that the Boston Symphony was
possibly performing in London at the time (which would make more sense
to me, time-wise, because England would have gotten the news of JFK's
death in the early evening on Nov. 22, a much more logical time to be
having a concert).

But in a book written by Associated Press correspondent Relman Morin
(portions of which are discussed in Vince Bugliosi's excellent JFK
book, "Reclaiming History"), Morin says the concert was being held in
Boston, which means that the concert must have started in the early
afternoon, Boston time. And on a workday (Friday), too. It just seems
a bit strange.

"In Boston..."the Boston Symphony broke off a Handel concert to
play a funeral march by Beethoven"." -- "Reclaiming History"; Page 98
[Source: "Morin, 'Assassination', pp.78–79".]

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Erich Leinsdorf's 11/22/63 announcement also seems to indicate that
President Kennedy had already died (vs. just an announcement that the
President had been wounded and might still be alive), which also seems
kind of odd to me (no matter WHERE the concert was being held),
because almost a full hour went by between the first bulletins of the
shooting in Dallas and JFK's death being confirmed at 1:33 PM CST.

So if Leinsdorf's announcement was really a DEATH announcement, it
would mean that the concert crowd apparently was not informed of the
shooting until well over one hour after it occurred.

But, regardless of location, the Erich Leinsdorf/Boston Symphony clip
is an amazing piece of audio (and remarkably clear as well).

It's a very rare thing to hear a large group of people reacting with
gasps of shock and horror as they receive the first news of a tragic
event.

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TONY CLIFTON (AT YOU TUBE) SAID:

>>> "Humes BLOWS. He totally botched the autopsy. He had no experience with gunshot wounds and should have recused himself, but due to his fucked-up arrogance botched the most important autopsy of the century." <<<

DVP SAID:

Dr. James J. Humes didn't "totally botch" President Kennedy's autopsy.
Humes made some errors, yes. Such as his error of not noting the exact
location of the entry wound in the back of JFK's head via either his
notes or the final autopsy report.

Humes should have measured the distance from the entry wound to the
top of Kennedy's head (or measured the wound's distance from the EOP
or some other fixed body landmark), which he did not do with respect
to the "north/south" measurement of the wound. So, we're left with the
very indefinite term "slightly above the EOP" for that entry wound.

And Dr. Humes should have called Dr. Malcolm Perry at Parkland
Hospital while JFK was still on the autopsy table on the night of
11/22/63, instead of waiting until the next morning to call Perry to
confirm the existence of the bullet hole in the front of Kennedy's
neck.

But as far as the most important "big-ticket" things associated with
JFK's autopsy are concerned, Dr. Humes most certainly got those things
100% correct -- i.e., John F. Kennedy was positively struck by ONLY
TWO BULLETS, with both of those bullets coming from the REAR of the
President.

As usual, conspiracy kooks always overestimate the so-called
"botching" of Humes' work. But if Dr. Earl Rose had done the
postmortem exam in Dallas, these "big ticket" results would have
unquestionably been exactly the same as they were at Bethesda:

"The deceased [John F. Kennedy] died as a result of two
perforating gunshot wounds inflicted by high velocity projectiles
fired by a person or persons unknown. The projectiles were fired from
a point behind and somewhat above the level of the deceased." -- From
JFK's Autopsy Report [CE387; Warren Report Pg. 543]

http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wr/html/WCReport_0284a.htm

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"In 1978, [Dr. Rose] was appointed by the HSCA to be one of the
nine forensic pathologists to review the autopsy findings. Now retired
in Iowa City, Dr. Rose told me no one ever calls him regarding his one
year on the HSCA forensic panel and he was "enjoying" his "anonymity."
My key question to Dr. Rose was this: "Were you satisfied from your
review of the autopsy photos and X-rays that the autopsy surgeons
reached the same conclusion you would have reached if you had
conducted the autopsy back in 1963 in Dallas?"

"Rose immediately and unequivocally answered, "Yes, there's no
question their conclusions were correct. Two shots entered the
president from behind, the entrance wound to the back exiting in the
throat at the site of the tracheotomy and the entrance wound to the
back of the head exiting in the right frontal temporal area."

"The only place he said he disagreed with the autopsy surgeons
is that they reported the entrance wound to the back of the head "too
low. It was in the cowlick area." " -- Vincent Bugliosi; Pages 388-389
of "Reclaiming History" (c.2007)*

* = Source Note #41 on Page 389 = "Telephone interviews of Earl Rose
by author [VB] on October 17, 2002, and March 18, 2005."

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Apr 14, 2013, 1:35:47 PM4/14/13

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1:30pm Friday afternoon concerts were normal for Boston Symphony Orchestra. I've attended many myself.