In article <3D026497...@valid.invalid>,
myaw <va...@valid.invalid> wrote:
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> existing DNS related code, examples in documentation,
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In article <3D026629...@valid.invalid>,
myaw <va...@valid.invalid> wrote:
> ããããRFC2606ã®åé ãã
> http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc2606.html
> :Status of this Memo
> :This document specifies an Internet Best
> :Current Practices for the Internet Community,
> :and requests discussion and suggestions
> :for improvements.
> ãšæžããŠããã®ã«ã
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Examples" ã®äºã€ç®ã®æ®µèœã®äžã€ç®ã®ã»ã³ãã³ã¹ãããèªã¿ãŸãããã
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Oda, Takeshi (ç¹ç°ãå¥å¿)
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"Oda, Takeshi" wrote:
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http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc2606.html
myaw:
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myaw :
> > and the likeã¯ç¡èŠã§ããïŒ
> > ã³ã³ãã®ãµããããããããš
> > ãdocumentationã«ãããäŸã®ãã㪠private testingçã
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> > ãdocumentationã«ãããäŸãªã©ã®ãããªprivate testingã
> > ã§ã¯ãããŸãããã
"Oda, Takeshi" wrote:
>> åæã§ã¯
> > private testing, as examples in documentation, and the like.
> ãšãªã£ãŠããŸãã
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myaw:
> > ãã®é
ç®ã«ïŒ
> > "There is a need for top level domain (TLD) names that
> > can be used for creating names which, without fear
> > of conflicts with current or future actual TLD names
> > in the global DNS, can be used for private testing of
> > existing DNS related code, examples in documentation,
> > DNS related experimentation, invalid DNS names, or other
> > similar uses. "ã«"invalid DNS names"ãåæããŠããã§ãããã
Oda Takeshi:
> "invalid DNS names" ããéåžžã®å Žåãã€ã³ã¿ãŒãããäžã«ååšããŠã¯ãããª
> ãèæ¯ãããããªããšã話ã«ãªããŸãã(ãããŸã§ã®è°è«ãèŠãã«ãmyawæ°ã
> ãã®èæ¯ãç解ããŠããããã«ã¯èããããªãã "private testing" ãè¡ã
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Oda, Takeshi:
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:to the poster(s) of the article, or person or agent on whose behalf
:the post is being sent (see the Sender-header, 6.2). When, for
:whatever reason, the poster does not wish to include such an address,
:the From-content SHOULD then be an address which ends in the top
:level domain of ".invalid" [RFC 2606].
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"It is a violation of this standard for a poster to use as his address
a mailbox which he is not entitled to use. Even addresses with an
invalid local-part but a valid domain can cause disruption to the
administrators of such domains. Posters who wish to remain anonymous
or to prevent automated harvesting of their addresses, but who do not
care to take the additional precautions of using more sophisticated
anonymity measures, should avoid that violation by the use of
addresses ending in the ".invalid" top-level-domain (see 5.2)."
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YOSHIDA Erio wrote:
> myaw ããã¯ãMessage-ID ãšã¡ãŒã«ã¢ã«ãŠã³ãã«
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myaw:
>> RFC2606ã¯ããã€ã³ã¿ãŒãããã§.invalidãã¡ã€ã³ã
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YOSHIDA Erio wrote:
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>invalidãšããããããã¡ã€ã³ãInternetã§äœ¿çšããæš©éã
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>誰ããäºçŽTLDã䜿ã£ããã¡ãŒã«ããã¥ãŒã¹èšäºã®é
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- ---
â§â§ myaw the copycatã
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F149 D1DA 04A8 5671 2E8B 66C2 6EAB 19DD 266B 4C31 (0x266B4C31)
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Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:27:02 +0900 é ã
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Takeda Eiji wrote:
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F149 D1DA 04A8 5671 2E8B 66C2 6EAB 19DD 266B 4C31 (0x266B4C31)
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Takeda Eiji wrote:
> ã«ãŒã«ãç Žã£ãŠãèªèŠã¯ãããã âŠã
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F149 D1DA 04A8 5671 2E8B 66C2 6EAB 19DD 266B 4C31 (0x266B4C31)
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ã wrote:
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"There is a need for top level domain (TLD) names that
can be used for creating names which, without fear of
conflicts with current or future actual TLD names
in the global DNS, can be used for private testing
of existing DNS related code, examples in documentation,
DNS related experimentation, invalid DNS names, or
other similar uses. "
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