'
They "cannot talk to me," and indeed, they did all of their crime in
 secret, fiercely hiding their crimes from me, as a vital necessity
 for any success in it.
Now - and also then, in 2000 - when I am working for you 24 hrs a day
 and 7 days a week, to ensure global Peace(*) in YOUR future, THEN I
 DO EXPECT SOME DEFENSE AND SOME PROTECTION FROM YOU.
Capito?! ...Stelletje slappe lullen, en wat er zo bijhoort!
"Yes, but I do not understand what you are doing or saying..."
How about reading the 'Definition of Peace',(*) huh?
KNT hrp&p
Copyright 2010 by KNT hrp&p - conditions as usual
'
See:
(*)   'Sociopaths trying to incite sociopaths to justify, and to again
       commit murder on Koos Nolst Trenite'
       {HRI note 20100201-V1.0}
        (1 February 2010)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.rights.human/msg/9cc356647cfb1c34 
which is quoted below.
'
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:21:01 +0100, Plato Been wrote:
> Sociopaths trying to incite sociopaths to justify, and to again commit
>  murder on Koos Nolst Trenite
>  
>                                                      1 February 2010
>                                              {HRI note 20100201-V1.0}
> 
> '
> 
>                                      Koos Nolst Trenite is, arguably,
>                                          by far the most Intelligent,
>                                            by far the most Beautiful
>                                           and by far the most Caring
>                                                    philosopher known,
> 
>                                                   and on top of that
>                                                    the most Truthful
>                                                     and most trusted
>                                                    philosopher known
>                                                  on Earth and beyond.
> 
> '
> 
> The PURPOSE of the criminal libel (criminal libelers) (sociopaths)
>  (demonic individuals) (Criminal Minds), is:
>  
>  to try and incite sociopaths, to murder and destroy,
>  
>       in this case to try and get others to murder or destroy
>       Koos Nolst Trenite,
> 
>  FOR Koos Nolst Trenite being able to look at them and at their past,
>  and for him teaching others to do the same:
>   
>       FOR Koos Nolst Trenite bringing about, NOT the 'New Age' and
>       euphoric feeling of "peace" and NOT facing sociopaths at all,
>       
>       but FOR Koos Nolst Trenite bringing about the ACTUALITY of
>       peace,* that is - which involves facing and understanding
>       sociopaths and destructive cowards.**
>  
> '
> 
> Sociopaths (Criminal Minds) are spreading the most vicious libel, to
>  try and incite other sociopaths, to murder and destroy.
> 
> That's how sociopaths work
> 
>      (and you don't have to guess about what I think of YOU, for YOUR
>       refusing to understand and face life itself, which includes
>       sociopaths).
> 
> '
> 
> '
> 
> Enclosed, is quoted, what again was posted TODAY, by a known sociopath
> - it constitutes an active crime,
>  
>             for which the originators of the original libel ARE
>             LIABLE per  {HRI note 20090819-D-V2.1} or later version
>             ()'Die Bamberg Notiz - (A Notice to Bamberg)' or later
>             title, about
> 
>       the criminal libel, that sociopaths are capable of creating,
>       and ENJOY creating,
>  
>       by which they hope to incite others to approve of their own
>       (effectively) murder of Koos Nolst Trenite in 2000, in Bamberg,
>       and
>  
>  to try and continue their incitement to murder,
>  
>       with those vicious, utter lies and insinuations, of
> 
>       HOW THEY THEMSELVES WOULD LIKE TO act and feel and think towards
>       people, and how THEY would have acted.
> 
>             Thus the lies are 'perfectly acceptable' to sociopaths,
>             "they would have felt and acted like described" in the
>             libel.
> 
>             Criminal Minds have a REVERSE CONSCIENCE, so FOR THEM,
>             the lies feel like "truth."
> 
>                   It is, how they WANT to think and feel "life is."
> 
>       Thus they try and incite other sociopaths, to murder and destroy
>       someone, or a whole country even.
> 
>             That is what sociopaths ENJOY doing.
> 
> '
> 
> '
> 
> This is also the purpose of 'Scientology' management (l. ron hubbard)
>  with which they planned and executed in the years 1999-2000,
>  
>  what effectively was murder, by means of one of their typical
>  'Paulette Cooper' operations,
>   
>       by (apart from in their own management) finding and ACTIVATING
>       key sociopaths (severely Criminal Minds) also in the Bamberg
>       area.
>  
>       And they do like to engage ALSO anti-Scientology or anti-
>       spiritual individuals (including the "critics of Scientology"),
>       as long as
> 
>  these are sociopaths, who thus have a common purpose for life
>  
>        - to destroy it, under the guise of "protecting life,"
> 
>          as sociopaths typically do, to get your cooperation or tacit
>          approval for evil, by pretending "to protect others against
>          evil."
> 
>       Such is the nature of Evil ...which you are far too cowardly to
>       face, to have faced - else I would not have been effectively
>       murdered, now, in Bamberg in the year 2000.
> 
> '
> 
> **   'Die Bamberg Notiz - (A Notice to Bamberg)' [OR LATER EDITION]
>       {HRI note 20090819-D-V2.1}
>        (19 August 2009 - Version 2.1 on 31 Aug 2009)
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.german/msg/da33f68170202860
> 
>      'The CORRECT Definition of 'Scientologist' - (plus history and
>       some Fine Particle Physics, and scolding your Stupidity)'
>       {HRI note 20091105-V1.3} (archived 20100101 by groups.google)
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/404f416cfcf9817d
> 
>      'Amazing: 'Scientologists' actually REPLACING Jesus Christ with
>       Satan (incl. definition of Jesus Christ, definition of Satan)'
>       {HRI 20100106-II-V5.0}
>        (6 January 2010 - Version 5.0 on 17 Jan 2010)
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.usa/msg/8f421cec1150dd49
> 
> '
> 
> Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
> human rights philosopher and poet
> 
>                                        'Solomon's wisdom was greater
>                                                   than the wisdom of
>                                              all the men of the East,
>                                                          and greater
>                                         than all the wisdom of Egypt.'
> 
>                                                         1 Kings 4:30
> 
> _________
> Footnotes:
> 
> (*)  'Definition of Peace'  (DOP)
>       (First workable Definition of Peace)
>       {HRI 20070520-V3.8-t}
>        (20 May 2007 - Version 3.8-t on 10 Dec 2009)
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/e859c83850ef7c31
> 
> (**)  See above.
> '
> 
> ____________
> Verification:
> 
> 		http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
> 
> Copyright 2009 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
>  and poet
> This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
>  anyone who learns from it and (even if he can not learn from it)
>  who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
>  to others who might be able to learn from it (but not to sociopaths
>  specifically, because these vehemently oppose any true knowledge
>  of life and about themselves).
> None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
>  or religious or scientific or artistic "agenda," but only to educate,
>  and to encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
>  about any organizations or individuals.
> Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
>  PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
> 
> '
> 
> '
> 
> __________
> Enclosures:
> 
> Fredric L. Rice - a known sociopath from alt.religion.scientology -
>  continues to act with criminal libel, from his website raids.org,
>  in San Clementa, California, USA
> 
> Registrant ID:CR30617679
> Registrant Name:Fredric L. Rice
> Registrant Organization:The Skeptic Tank
> Registrant Street1:723 Calle Casita
> Registrant City:San Clementa
> Registrant State/Province:California
> Registrant Postal Code:92673
> Registrant Country:US
> Registrant Phone:+1.6263359601
> Registrant Email:fr...@skeptictank.org
> Admin ID:GODA-21121303
> Admin Name:Fredric L. Rice
> Admin Organization:The Skeptic Tank
> Admin Street1:723 Calle Casita
> Admin Street2:
> Admin Street3:
> Admin City:San Clementa
> Admin State/Province:California
> Admin Postal Code:92673
> Admin Country:US
> Admin Phone:+1.6263359601
> Admin Email:FR...@Linkline.COM
> Admin ID:CR30617681
> Admin Name:Fredric L. Rice
> Admin Organization:The Skeptic Tank
> Admin Street1:723 Calle Casita
> Admin City:San Clementa
> Admin State/Province:California
> Admin Postal Code:92673
> Admin Country:US
> Admin Phone:+1.6263359601
> Admin Email:fr...@skeptictank.org
> Tech ID:CR30617680
> Tech Name:Fredric L. Rice
> Tech Organization:The Skeptic Tank
> Tech Street1:723 Calle Casita
> Tech Street2:
> Tech Street3:
> Tech City:San Clementa
> Tech State/Province:California
> Tech Postal Code:92673
> Tech Country:US
> Tech Phone:+1.6263359601
> Tech Email:fr...@skeptictank.org
> Tech ID:GODA-11121303
> Tech Name:Fredric L. Rice
> Tech Organization:The Skeptic Tank
> Tech Street1:723 Calle Casita
> Tech City:San Clementa
> Tech State/Province:California
> Tech Postal Code:92673
> Tech Country:US
> Tech Phone:+1.6263359601
> 
> which is repeated now again by others posting it - a case for all the
>  originators TO PAY DAMAGES** TO KOOS NOLST TRENITE.
> 
>>> >You fail to mention your purpose in your criminal libel< <<
> 
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 12:01:23 -0800, the COWARDly Roger Larsson wrote:
> 
>> On 31 Jan, 19:54, SOCIOPATH henri <he...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 22:00:15 +0100, "Leonardo Been (Plato)"
>>>
>>> <plato...@yahoo.com> (Koos Nolst Trenite) wrote:
> 
> '
> 
>>> >You fail to mention your purpose in your criminal libel.< <<
> 
> '
> 
> '
> 
> The criminal libel, that sociopaths are capable of creating, and that
>  they ENJOY creating, by which they hope to incite others to approve
>  of their own (effectively) murder of Koos Nolst Trenite in 2000, and
>  
>  by which these try and continue their incitement to murder,
>  
>  is shown in their posting and having on their website the following
>  very evil, very malicious, underhanded lies and insinuations, of
> 
>       how THEY themselves would like to act and feel and think towards
>       people, and which thus is what tehy in THEIR mind would like
>       to see as "reality," THEIR "reality" as to how THEY would like
>       life to be "seen:"
> 
> The very good, being "seen" or thought of, or at least TREATED as
>  "being very evil."
> 
>       And they hope for your cowardice and blindness to be sufficient-
>       ly inflicted, to let them get on with their Evil,
> 
>             for some sanctioned by the 'New Age' or Hinduist/Buddhist
>             lies, that PREVENT peace, as explaiend above and in
>             'Definition of Peace.'*
> 
> '
> 
>>> http://www.raids.org/freya1.htm
> 
>>> Drowned at home Father succumbed to cult madness
>>>
>>> FORWARD: Horribly, the killer named Koos was a long-time participant
>>> in the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup who used to post lengthy and
>>> freakishly bizarre Scientology nut rants right up until the date he
>>> was hauled off to the mental asylum for this killing.
>>>
>>> Nobody in the a.r.s newsgroup -- certainly not myself -- ever
>>> considered that we were talking with one of the many cult followers
>>> that are driven insane by Scientology's brainwashing procedures.
>>> Everybody knew he was profoundly insane (and, in fact, a great many
>>> insane Scientologists have come through the newsgroup) but nobody
>>> thought Scientology had progressed this guy to the point of murder.
>>>
>>> Scientology gets mentally unstable people to sign up for "courses"
>>> which make the mental problem much worse. Existing mental problems are
>>> often brought to much higher levels of mental dysfunction through what
>>> the criminal enterprise calls "Training Routines" or "TRs" for short
>>> which are actually procedures which are designed to force victims to
>>> stop thinking critically and to do whatever the Scientology criminal
>>> enterprise tells them to do (see No Blink for a short description of
>>> this highly debilitative brainwashing.)
>>>
>>> Freya's (19) mysterious death
>>>
>>> Drowned at home
>>> Father succumbed to cult madness
>>>
>>> Freya was just 19 when the doctor on emergency duty was called to her
>>> death on December 25, 1999. When the medical technician entered the
>>> room, a feeling of misgiving came over him. The Bach cantata "Oh Haupt
>>> voll Blut und Wunden" boomed deafeningly throughout the house in the
>>> small village near Forcheim.
>>>
>>> Jakobus N., the father of the deceased, stood motionlessly in the room
>>> as did his son Nils (18) - no tears or sign of sorrow. The doctor
>>> called the police. The autopsy showed that Freya N. had drowned. Nine
>>> months later her death is still unexplained and the state attorney's
>>> office is investigating. Early yesterday the police took Jakobus N.
>>> away in handcuffs - the man was committed to the psychiatric ward as a
>>> public menace. That is because Jakobus N. succumbed to cult madness.
>>> He subjected his family to methods of torture for years. For instance,
>>> he tortured his wife Carla (name changed) by drenching her with cold
>>> water. The 60-year-old woman said, "What if he had done the same thing
>>> with Freya?"
>>>
>>> On that December day after Freya's death, Jakobus N. gave the police
>>> investigators a letter written by her: "Early this morning I took
>>> another ten-minute cold bath" his daughter jotted down the morning of
>>> the day she died. How many 19-year-old girls voluntarily take a cold
>>> bath in winter? And jot it down? Freya's mother, Carla N. (60) has
>>> some answers. She fled to the Nuernberg house for women in 1997 after
>>> years of torture. When the mother, a painter, met her future husband
>>> of 24 years, he was a member of the Scientology sect. Jakobus' life
>>> goal was to rise to the top of the sect hierarchy, but he was thwarted
>>> by the sect leaders.
>>>
>>> During that time, Freya and Nils were born, then Flavia in 1983. At
>>> that time the family was living near Heidelberg. Even though the frail
>>> baby had caught a cold and could barely breath, Jakobus forbade
>>> calling a doctor or using nose drops. Carla obeyed. Ten days after its
>>> birth the child died of asphyxiation. The doctor attested to the
>>> sudden death of the child.
>>>
>>> He [Jakobus] later disseminated his deluded concepts via the internet,
>>> "He thought L. Ron Hubbard wanted to annihilate him from the great
>>> beyond," was how Carla described his state of mind. Freya had to redo
>>> those internet pages every day.
>>>
>>> While Carla N. managed to escape to the women's home, the children
>>> stayed with their father. Shortly after Freya's death, the state
>>> attorney applied for a warrant for the arrest of the father - however
>>> the magistrate did not see a pressing need of suspicion. Jakobus N.
>>> stayed free and the police looked for evidence.
>>>
>>> "Did Jakobus torture her to death? A question the mother has been
>>> asking herself ever since. Friedrich Kraus, the Bamberg leading state
>>> attorney, is also investigating the case of Freya's death.
>>>
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> [ This is how OSA reported the same article on a.r.s. A sample of
>>> Jakobus'/Koos' work is athttp://cisar.org/koos.htm]
>>>
>>> From: ARS_incites_hate_member at newsguy.com
>>> Subject: FLASH!!! Critic arrested on suspicion of murder
>>> Date: 25 Sep 2000 00:00:00 GMT
>>> Message-ID: 8qo6h502...@drn.newsguy.com
>>> Organization: Newsguy News Service [http://www.newsguy.com]
>>> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
>>>
>>> This is a story Tilman failed to report.
>>>
>>> Koos Nolst Trenite taken by police for suspected murder....
>>>
>>> A friend in Munich sent me this translation of an article in
>>> Abendzeitung on September 22, 2000. The names have been changed to
>>> hide the identity of the family, but "Jakobus N" can only be Koos.
>>> This tragic event, was the result of a deranged mind driven to
>>> violence by the hate spread on a.r.s.
>>>
>>> ABENDZEITUNG 22.09.2000
>>>
>>> THE MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF FREYA
>>>
>>> Did the father kill the nineteen year old?
>>>
>>> Freya N. was only 19 years old when the ambulance was called to her
>>> death on the 25th of December 1999. When the medical man entered the
>>> room, a bad feeling came over him: In the whole house in the small
>>> village near Forchheim, the song "Oh Haupt voll Blut und Wunden" (Oh
>>> Head full of blood and wounds) by Bach resounded deafeningly.
>>>
>>> The father of the deceased, Jakobus N., and his son Nils (18) were
>>> standing motionless in the room -- no crying, no sorrow. The doctor
>>> called the police. The autopsy established that Freya N. had drowned.
>>> Three quarters of a year later, her death is still considered unsolved
>>> and the public prosecutor is investigating.
>>>
>>> Yesterday morning, the police picked Jakobus N. up in handcuffs -- he
>>> was sent to a psychiatric clinic because he was considered to be a
>>> public menace.
>>>
>>> For several years, his family was subject to his methods of torture.
>>> He tortured his wife Carla (named changed) with gushes of cold water.
>>> The 60 year old: "What if he has done the same to Freya?"
>>>
>>> On that day in December, after Freya's death, Jakobus N. gave a
>>> letter, written by Freya, to the criminal police: "This morning, I
>>> took another cold bath of the minutes," his daughter had written the
>>> morning of the day of her death. Which 19 year old voluntarily takes a
>>> cold bath in winter? And notes that down? The answers can be found
>>> with Carla N., Freya's mother. After years of torture, she took refuge
>>> in the womens' house in Nurnberg in 1997. When the artist met her
>>> husband 24 years ago, he was a member of the Scientology sect.
>>> Jakobus' life goal, to move up in the sect hierarchy, was however
>>> prevented by sect leaders.
>>>
>>> In that time, Freya and Nils were born, and in 1983, Flavia. At that
>>> time, the family was living in Heidelberg. When the weak baby was sick
>>> and could hardly breathe, Jakobus forbid calling a doctor or using
>>> nose drops, and Carla obeyed. Ten days after her birth, the child
>>> suffocated. The doctor attested the sudden death of the child. In the
>>> Internet, he later distributes his delusion. "L. Ron Hubbard was
>>> trying to kill him hereafter," Carla N. describes his frame of mind.
>>> Freya had to update the web pages daily. Carla N. succeeded in running
>>> away to the women's house, and the children remained with the father.
>>> Just after Freya's death, the public prosecutor proposed the father be
>>> arrested. Jakobus N. remains in freedom, the police were searching for
>>> evidence.
>>>
>>> "Did Jakobus N. torture her to death?" a question the mother has been
>>> asking herself over and over since then. The senior public prosecutor
>>> Friedrich Kraus is still investigating the death of Freya.
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Unofficial translations of German media, For non-commercial use only
>>> Recent events - http://cisar.org/trnmenu.htm
>>> Informational publications http://members.tripod.com/German_Scn_News
>>> Over 1200 articles sorted by date http://cisar.org/sortdate.htm
>>
> The below, inane or psychotic "response," is from the Swede Roger
>  Larsson, is signifying his refusal to face sociopaths.
> 
>> Virgins in ARS has a greater attraction value than Ron Hubbard and his
>> product scientology.
>> 
>> If virgins affect peoples interest more than Ron Hubbard ,,,why don't
>> they make it as cult leaders?
>The accessories to, the aids to, and the originators of this crime,*
> remain silent...
Wipe your froth, maniac.  You should be in one of these:
http://linkey.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/hannibal_lecter.jpg
{HRI note 20100201-V2.0}
                                                        (Version 2.0
                                                       on 5 Feb 2010)
The accessories to, the aids to, and the originators of this crime,*
 remain silent...
The crime is described (in German) in
     'Die Bamberg Notiz - (A Notice to Bamberg)'
{HRI note 20090819-D-V2.1} [OR LATER VERSION]
       (19 August 2009 - Version 2.1 on 31 Aug 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.german/msg/da33f68170202860
      and in English, in (the middle of the body of text of)
     'The CORRECT Definition of 'Scientologist' - (plus history and
      some Fine Particle Physics, and scolding your Stupidity)'
      {HRI note 20091105-V1.3} (archived 20100101 by groups.google)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/404f416cfcf9817d
'
They "cannot talk to me," and indeed, they did all of their crime in
 secret, fiercely hiding their crimes from me, as a vital necessity
 for any success in it.
'
Now - and also then, in 2000, at the time of that crime on me - when
 I am working for you 24 hrs a day and 7 days a week, to ensure global
Peace(**) in YOUR future, THEN
I DO EXPECT SOME DEFENSE AND SOME PROTECTION FROM YOU.
Capito?!
 
...You bunch of limpid lulls and appendage bags (a translation from
 Dutch language insults, your) whining: "Yes, but I do not understand
 what you are doing or saying..."
How about reading the 'Definition of Peace',(**) huh?
KNT hrp&p
Copyright 2010 by KNT hrp&p - conditions as usual
'
___
See:
(*) (also quoted below)
     'Sociopaths trying to incite sociopaths to justify, and to again
      commit murder on Koos Nolst Trenite'
      {HRI note 20100201-V1.0}
       (1 February 2010)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.rights.human/msg/9cc356647cfb1c34 
(**) 'Definition of Peace' (DOP)
      (First workable Definition of Peace)
      {HRI 20070520-V3.8-t}
       (20 May 2007 - Version 3.8-t on 10 Dec 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.military.naval/msg/e859c83850ef7c31
'
__________________________
> Larsson, signifying his refusal to face sociopaths.
> 
>> Virgins in ARS has a greater attraction value than Ron Hubbard and his
>> product scientology.
>> 
>> If virgins affect peoples interest more than Ron Hubbard, why don't