"After reading all the posts on a thread entitled "Why Hitler killed
the Jews" within SCC a few weeks ago, the holocaust was a myth
perpetuated by the Jewish people to gain favorable sympathy for the
Jews. Wartime conditions were horrible not only for the Jews during
WWII, it was also horrible for the Germans. Typhoid killed a lot of
prisoners, and the Germans had to get rid of the bodies fast. Hence a
requirement for the gas chambers to burn the bodies. I accept the
explanation as logical. "
Here's his original post:
From: rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups:
aus.politics,alt.religion.islam,soc.culture.iraq,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Wrong. The japs did not load any biological weapon on the
balloons they launched to USA simply because it's extremely violating
the humanitarianism.
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:25:02 -0700
On Aug 8, 3:10 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
> On Aug 8, 2:12 pm, Dragon <dra...@newyork.com> wrote:
> There's plenty of evidence for the Holocaust. It's not a myth. Do you
> think it's a myth?
After reading all the posts on a thread entitled "Why Hitler killed
the Jews" within SCC a few weeks ago, the holocaust was a myth
perpetuated by the Jewish people to gain favorable sympathy for the
Jews. Wartime conditions were horrible not only for the Jews during
WWII, it was also horrible for the Germans. Typhoid killed a lot of
prisoners, and the Germans had to get rid of the bodies fast. Hence a
requirement for the gas chambers to burn the bodies. I accept the
explanation as logical.
And here's a netter's reply to his post:
From: bmo...@nyx.net
Newsgroups:
aus.politics,alt.religion.islam,soc.culture.iraq,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Wrong. The japs did not load any biological weapon on the
balloons they launched to USA simply because it's extremely violating
the humanitarianism.
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:42:24 -0700
On Aug 8, 4:25 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 3:10 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
>
> > On Aug 8, 2:12 pm, Dragon <dra...@newyork.com> wrote:
> > There's plenty of evidence for the Holocaust. It's not a myth. Do you
> > think it's a myth?
>
> After reading all the posts on a thread entitled "Why Hitler killed
> the Jews" within SCC a few weeks ago, the holocaust was a myth
> perpetuated by the Jewish people to gain favorable sympathy for the
> Jews. Wartime conditions were horrible not only for the Jews during
> WWII, it was also horrible for the Germans. Typhoid killed a lot of
> prisoners, and the Germans had to get rid of the bodies fast. Hence a
> requirement for the gas chambers to burn the bodies. I accept the
> explanation as logical.
It should be clear to an intelligent person that the holocaust was not
a myth and I doubt that you believe that it was. If you do then you're
even crazier than I had thought.
This sort of "logic" quickly devolves to the moronic "I believe
whatever I feel like believing based on what I would like to be true"
attitudes so prevalent on this NG.
Link to original thread:
1.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/653fe5634f0bc74e
'I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long. I
also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
involved in this deception.'
-- rst0wxyz, June 18, 2007
2.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/73bc093682d7d51e
'A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.
The Japanese in the U.S. were treated just like the Germans treated
the Jews. The difference was war-time conditions of the countries.
Germany was being bombed and destroyed. Food and medicine were
scarce, not only for the prisoners, but also for the Germans
themselves... Reading the posts from the last few days have opened my
eyes to the so- called "extermination camps" and Nazi's gas chambers.
As I have said many times: American propaganda is the biggest and the
most effective in the world.'
-- rst0wxyz, June 19, 2007
3.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/9f93bb02651f8760
'The "extermination of millions of Jews" was the work of American Jews
to set world opinion favorable for the Jews and Israel. The
conditions of war caused hardship for all, not only the Jews, but also
the Germans themselves. When Germans themselves didn't have enough to
eat, it was understandable that the prosoners wouldn't get any food.
No food meant disease spread easily. Dead bodies were piling up. The
quickest way to get rid of them were to burn them.'
-- rst0wxyz, July 22, 2007
Thanks for the links and will save them for the record!!!
> 1.http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/653fe5634f0bc74e
>
> 'I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
> link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long. I
> also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
> nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
> Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
> involved in this deception.'
> -- rst0wxyz, June 18, 2007
>
> 2.http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/73bc093682d7d51e
>
> 'A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.
> The Japanese in the U.S. were treated just like the Germans treated
> the Jews. The difference was war-time conditions of the countries.
> Germany was being bombed and destroyed. Food and medicine were
> scarce, not only for the prisoners, but also for the Germans
> themselves... Reading the posts from the last few days have opened my
> eyes to the so- called "extermination camps" and Nazi's gas chambers.
> As I have said many times: American propaganda is the biggest and the
> most effective in the world.'
> -- rst0wxyz, June 19, 2007
>
> 3.http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/9f93bb02651f8760
>
> 'The "extermination of millions of Jews" was the work of American Jews
> to set world opinion favorable for the Jews and Israel. The
> conditions of war caused hardship for all, not only the Jews, but also
> the Germans themselves. When Germans themselves didn't have enough to
> eat, it was understandable that the prosoners wouldn't get any food.
> No food meant disease spread easily. Dead bodies were piling up. The
> quickest way to get rid of them were to burn them.'
> -- rst0wxyz, July 22, 2007- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
demorising, what does post #1 said:
'I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long.
I
also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
involved in this deception.'
-- rst0wxyz, June 18, 2007
Get it through your head and re-read what I said above.
"I also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of
this
nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world."
Nowhere did I say I condone what they did.
This has only proved I contention from the very beginning that
demorising is a CIA agent, and the CIA's job is to create and incite
chaos and dissension for anyone, any nation who disagreed with the
U.S. policies.
On Nov 3, 2:02 pm, demoris...@aol.com wrote:
> 1.http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/653fe5634f0bc74e
>
> 'I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
> link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long. I
> also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
> nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
> Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
> involved in this deception.'
> -- rst0wxyz, June 18, 2007
>
> 2.http://groups.google.com/group/can.politics/msg/73bc093682d7d51e
>
> 'A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.
> The Japanese in the U.S. were treated just like the Germans treated
> the Jews. The difference was war-time conditions of the countries.
> Germany was being bombed and destroyed. Food and medicine were
> scarce, not only for the prisoners, but also for the Germans
> themselves... Reading the posts from the last few days have opened my
> eyes to the so- called "extermination camps" and Nazi's gas chambers.
> As I have said many times: American propaganda is the biggest and the
> most effective in the world.'
> -- rst0wxyz, June 19, 2007
>
> 3.http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/9f93bb02651f8760
>
> 'The "extermination of millions of Jews" was the work of American Jews
> to set world opinion favorable for the Jews and Israel. The
> conditions of war caused hardship for all, not only the Jews, but also
> the Germans themselves. When Germans themselves didn't have enough to
> eat, it was understandable that the prosoners wouldn't get any food.
> No food meant disease spread easily. Dead bodies were piling up. The
> quickest way to get rid of them were to burn them.'
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
atta boy, lecher dog, sic him.
> U.S. policies.- Hide quoted text -
abum_chump, who give a damn about holocaust or not. As far as I am
concern, you and Bill Moore can go to hell.
Only a fool like you don't feel Uncle Sam has his hand on the
everything. demorising has too much knowledge about China, the level
of personnel at the top and their background. I have a big interest
in China and Chinese history, but I have no interest in knowing who
those people at the top other than Hu Jintao and the prime minister
Wen (whatever his other name).
During Wen Ho Lee's spy-case time, newspaper mentioned a security
officer from Lawrance Radiation Lab named Morrision working on the
case, he also worked on another case where the U.S. deported a Chinese
national back to China named Peter. I can't remember his last name.
Morrison had a trip to China, and at the Shengyeng airport, he said he
saw Peter at the airport. He thought the Chinese was intentionally
trying to tell him that he was being followed.
I believe this demorising IS this security officer used to work at the
Lawrence Radiation Lab named Morrison.
Hmmm.. Professor Jonathan Spence must be a CIA agent, he also has too
much knowledge about China. LOL!
Crazy old man, are you a CCP agent?
Here's your favorite website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
On Nov 4, 5:05 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
> > Lawrence Radiation Lab named Morrison.- Hide quoted text -
Did you read that thread on why Chinese lie, cheat, steal? Man, you
are a perfect fit for it. You are a prime example of why Chinese are
so low. You are the low of the lowest scum.
>
> On Nov 4, 10:35 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 10:57 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > When you defended Nazi's holocaust, didnt Bill Moore say you are even
> > > crazier than he had thought?
>
> > abum_chump, who give a damn about holocaust or not. As far as I am
> > concern, you and Bill Moore can go to hell.- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Well ,Moshki, now you know why Chinese people have such bad
reputations and low scum. You now know why I say I am an American,
and not a Chinaman like him.
Then you and Bill Moore are the scum of this earth.
>
> Hmmm.. Professor Jonathan Spence must be a CIA agent, he also has too
> much knowledge about China. LOL!
Yeah, professor Spence doesn't look into ng for sniches for you.
>
> Crazy old man, are you a CCP agent?
>
> Here's your favorite website:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
>
> On Nov 4, 10:51 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 3, 11:22 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > No one would believe demorising is a CIA agent. No wonder Bill said
> > > you are even crazier than he had thought when you defended Nazi's
> > > holocaust.
>
> > Only a fool like you don't feel Uncle Sam has his hand on the
> > everything. demorising has too much knowledge about China, the level
> > of personnel at the top and their background. I have a big interest
> > in China and Chinese history, but I have no interest in knowing who
> > those people at the top other than Hu Jintao and the prime minister
> > Wen (whatever his other name).
>
> > During Wen Ho Lee's spy-case time, newspaper mentioned a security
> > officer from Lawrance Radiation Lab named Morrision working on the
> > case, he also worked on another case where the U.S. deported a Chinese
> > national back to China named Peter. I can't remember his last name.
>
> > Morrison had a trip to China, and at the Shengyeng airport, he said he
> > saw Peter at the airport. He thought the Chinese was intentionally
> > trying to tell him that he was being followed.
>
> > I believe this demorising IS this security officer used to work at the
> > Lawrence Radiation Lab named Morrison.- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Every time any criticism or investigation is launched into some type of
Jewish fraud or LiberalJew-fascism the Holocaust is brought up to silence
the opponents. Therefore, I don't give a shit about the Holocaust either.
You need to get the big picture here boy, I know you might not be very
educated but you must start thinking "the big picture."
It is advantages for certain groups to keep the Holocaust as a power tool to
prey on the guilt of the White European people when it comes to racial or
opposition to diversity, multiculturalism, or homosexual based themes.
The idea is to destroy everything possible with identity so we can easily be
controlled.
Why should any of us feel guilty about the Holocaust? Did we kill the Jews?
If I remember correctly we RESCUED them. However, we are still made to feel
guilty when liberals bring up the Holocaust just like you use to suppress
RST's points.
Either call him a racist or anti-Semite because he mentioned something not
politically correct and the Holocaust in the same paragraph or did not agree
with you.
Who are you fooling? People like me know what the big picture is and fools
like you really believe the rich elitist or politicians give a shit about
the Holocaust? Premise = Must be politically correct.
They are planning a Holocaust on a much larger scale in the future that
makes Nazi Germany out to be a Boy Scout troop.
I know you're kinda of dumb, but even you can learn what is the REAL WORLD
these days.
<abia...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1194160956.2...@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
abum_chump, who give a damn about holocaust? Why are you kept talking
about holocaust? What does the holocaust got to do with me? I have
no interest in Europe, Germany, Hitler, Jews, or the holocaust. The
thread about "Why Hitler killed the Jews" brought some new thought
that had never occurred to me or I have never read anything concerning
that area where they brought up the reason for the deaths and the gas
furnace, and I commented on just that. I have no thought on the
holocaust, and just don't think of it. You are just a fool bring this
up as something I support.
On Nov 4, 5:05 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
> > Lawrence Radiation Lab named Morrison.- Hide quoted text -
"Chinkieland" implies Mainland China. Mainland China don't want him.
He's too fishy and crooked. He lies, cheats, steals, spits, spread
diseases,...
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
infantile monkey see monkey do habitual dirty filthy lying son-of-a-
bitch still at it.
The biggest chimp is infantile monkey see monkey do abum_chump.
On Nov 4, 11:18 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
On Nov 4, 3:57 pm, Ira IRa IRA Humperdink MD <markdeme...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"rst0wxyz" <rst0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194191493.5...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
<abia...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1194192350.7...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Um, how did I get involved in this? I haven't been following the
thread but this doesn't look good.
Um, can you leave me out of this? I suppose that's what I get for ever
saying anything but can you 2 please fight this out without me? ;-)
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Aw geez. If you want to claim anybody on this NG is crazy you'll have
to justify it yourself. Whatever I may have said one time is simply
not that authoritative! Once (a few months ago was it?) when RST
seemed to be denying the holocaust I thought that seemed extreme and
made a comment to that effect, yes, but I am sorry that my words seem
to have been blown up into a big deal like this.
Why can't we all just get along? ;-)
Bill Moore, I told him to leave you out of it, and don't drag you into
this mudpit. I even post a special post for you to refute what he
said, and waited 24 hours for you to respond, but you didn't. So you
are part of his infantile monkey see monkey do habitual dirty filthy
lying son-of-a-bitch gang.
The biggest chimp is infantile monkey see monkey do abum_chump
habitual ignorant dirty filthy lying son-a-bitch.
No, CIA stands for "Call In (the) Animals.
Well, if sam is desperate enough, he would, believe me. He has the
power and the authority to do it.
>
> "rst0wxyz" <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Bill Moore, read the posts above. I gave you more than ample time for
you to refute him, and posted a message for you to do it. So don't
wait until the water is above your head. By then, it's too late. You
and abum_chump are in cahoot together on it, and you and abum_chump
Infantile half-wit meathead, you said it yourself, Bill Moore is in it
whether he likes it or not. You are so infantile you don't know what
the hell you are doing. Now, you are trying to get out of your own
doing?
>
> On Nov 5, 12:50 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 8:13 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 4, 7:35 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 3, 10:57 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > When you defended Nazi's holocaust, didnt Bill Moore say you are even
> > > > > crazier than he had thought?
>
> > > > abum_chump, who give a damn about holocaust or not. As far as I am
> > > > concern, you and Bill Moore can go to hell.
>
> > > Um, how did I get involved in this? I haven't been following the
> > > thread but this doesn't look good.
>
> > Bill Moore, read the posts above. I gave you more than ample time for
> > you to refute him, and posted a message for you to do it. So don't
> > wait until the water is above your head. By then, it's too late. You
> > and abum_chump are in cahoot together on it, and you and abum_chump
> > are the scum of this earth.- Hide quoted text -
that just about sums up nicely what your contribution to society and
these newsgroup is, chinkie cleaner boy !
> On Nov 4, 3:57 pm, Ira IRa IRA Humperdink MD <markdeme...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > hey, scumbag ! so what if I am back? you're still an illegal alien
> > cleaning chink restaurants.
> > stoopid chink ! bwahahahaha !
>
> > On Nov 4, 11:18 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hey Chimp, the original Dr. Ira is back, what are you going to do with
> > > your alias, fake Dr. Ira?
>
> > > On Nov 4, 1:49 pm, Ronald Moshki <sector_f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > You have no knowledge, that is why you can only work as a cleaner in a
> > > > Chinkie restaurant, and always on the lookout for U.S. immigration
> > > > officers who will one day catch you as an illegal immigrant and send
> > > > you back to Chinkieland !
>
> > > > On Nov 4, 5:05 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > He has too much knowledge about China so he is a CIA agent? Is that
> > > > > your reasoning? No wonder Bill said you are even crazier than he had
> > > > > though. I agree.
>
> > > > > Hmmm.. Professor Jonathan Spence must be a CIA agent, he also has too
> > > > > much knowledge about China. LOL!
>
> > > > >Crazyold man, are you a CCP agent?
>
> > > > > Here's your favorite website:
>
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
>
> > > > > On Nov 4, 10:51 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Nov 3, 11:22 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > No one would believe demorising is a CIA agent. No wonder Bill said
> > > > > > > you are even crazier than he had thought when you defendedNazi's
Keep it up, dr ira. We gotta put this half wit meathead abum_chump
through the meat grinder.
Not only is he crazy, he's a half wit meathead and a habitual dirty
filthy ignorant lying son-of-a-bitch who is a classic example of
"Chinese steal, cheat, lie, spit, corrupt,...".
> Anyway, I have been attacked by gang of 4 so this is just for self-
> defense. haha! But I will not mention your full name in this
> particular case from now on.
Yeah, abum_chump is trying to backtrack his half-wit meathead
infantile monkey see monkey do habitual ignorant lying son-of-a-bitch
ways after using Bill Moore's for his nasty purposes.
Half-wit meathead, getting to the end of your rope to attack, huh?
What's Nazi holocaust to you? It meant nothing to me.
OK, I found the original post. It said:
"It should be clear to an intelligent person that the holocaust was
not
a myth and I doubt that you believe that it was. If you do then
you're
even crazier than I had thought."
I didn't mean to call you crazy, but I do find it hard to believe you
really doubt the holocaust. I have no doubts that the holocaust
happened. I have visited a concentration camp (Dachau), have read
plenty about it and have heard testimony of survivors, even in person.
The holocaust was a big deal. But all this arguing we are doing is out
of hand. We're all crazy if we keep going on like this.
I dunno, we're all pretty removed from it but I think things the
Holocaust and the Rape of Nanking, among many other slaughters, show
us the horrible things human beings are capable of and are lessons
about things we should try to avoid as a species in the future. "Those
who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."
Um, I guess I missed the special post. I've been busy with work and
life. I am not part of anybody's "gang" or whatever. I don't have a
problem with you or your "enemy" so let's leave it that way.
This whole thing has gotten out of hand. I will admit that at times in
the past I have gotten into fights with people so it is my fault too.
I will try not to do that anymore. It is pointless IMO.
cheers,
Bill
Reading through that thread "Why Hitler killed the Jews", the posters
all over the world stated:
1: Only the U.S. kept this holocaust up because of the strong Jewish
lobby. The rest of the world didn't believe in it, even the Canadian
people didn't believe in it..
2: The initial intent of Hitler was to ship them to Madagascar.
3: The people in those camps died of typhus because of unsanitary
conditions, not gased.
4: Food was scarce. The German people themselves didn't have enough
to eat because of the allies constant bombing of railways contributing
to the Jewish starvation.
5: Too many dead bodies around. The quickest way to get rid of them
was to burn them, hence the gas chambers.
6: And the item that caught my eye was the death of Ann Frank. She
was not killed at Auschwitz. She was transfered to another camp where
she caught typhus and died. If they gassed people, why would they
transfer people around and spread the words around? Even people
released from those camps never said they saw people being killed.
After reading through all those posts, it sounded logical what they
were saying. At that time, China was having their own holocaust, and
I was part of the refugees trying to escape from the Japanese
invasion. Billl Moore, I learned from actual experience what it
meant. I was a refugee carried by my mother on her back until I was
running on my own.
>
> The holocaust was a big deal.
Big deal? How big? Do you have any experience being a refugee
running from your enemy? I have.
Today, he have another "big deal" coming up in the Middle East. Have
you try to reason what is right? and what is wrong? Everybody's
thinking is:
My country, right or wrong. And the U.S. is wrong in bullying Iran
and nobody is doing anything about it but jump on the bandwagon and
snare at Iran. Everybody jumped on the bandwagon for Iraq, and look
what Iraq got us.
> But all this arguing we are doing is out
> of hand. We're all crazy if we keep going on like this.
You're right of course. Blame your friend abum_chump. He started it
all up.
I was NOT removed from it, Bill Moore. I was part of it, even though
not from the German, but the Japanese's invasion of China. And I
remember it very well.
> Holocaust and the Rape of Nanking, among many other slaughters, show
> us the horrible things human beings are capable of and are lessons
> about things we should try to avoid as a species in the future. "Those
> who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it
Yes, I agree
Huge. I don't need to have been in Hiroshima in 1945 to know that it
was a big deal. Similarly I don't need to have been in Dachau in 1943.
Seems like you accept the Holocaust deniers? I don't. Neither do
almost all Germans.
> Do you have any experience being a refugee
> running from your enemy? I have.
I haven't. How exactly does your experience as a refugee make you
think that the Holocaust deniers are right?
>
> Today, he have another "big deal" coming up in the Middle East. Have
> you try to reason what is right? and what is wrong?
It was a mistake to invade. But what's done is done. The important
question now is what to do now.
OK. Both the Japanese and the Germans were unspeakably brutal, right?
> And I remember it very well.
Have you seen the new Ang Lee movie "Lust, Caution"?
I haven't been to a theater for years. I buy DVD on old movies and
watch it on TV at home.
I don't care for the new releases as they contain a lot of foul
languages. Years ago, I went to a movie with my daughter and her
boyfriend. There were so much foul language that I was embarrased
sitting next to her. Of course now, I have two grandsons from her,
but I still don't see her much, only about twice or three times a
year.
Growing up in Arizona, I still prefer to watch old western movies, and
I have a big collection of western movies on DVD.
My feeling on this subject of holocaust or no holocaust is still the
same, i.e., who give a damn. Certainly, no one gave a damn when I was
a refugee in China.
> > all up.- Hide quoted text -
Logical and/or plausible maybe, but not factual.
>
> My feeling on this subject of holocaust or no holocaust is still the
> same, i.e., who give a damn.
Once again, those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it. But
whether we ignore it or not, it was an extremely low point in human
civilization. I'm not saying we should talk about it all the time. We
should live our lives in pursuit of happiness. But it was real.
> Certainly, no one gave a damn when I was a refugee in China.
I wouldn't expect so. You were trying to save your own lives.
Unfortunately few in the West cared and/or knew much about it either,
until the gruesome facts came out in full during the Allied liberation
of the concentration camps.
Do we really know the facts, Bill Moore? Those posters said the rest
of the world, including Canada, didn't believe in it? You know it's
true the Jewish lobby in the United States is very strong.
>
>
>
> > My feeling on this subject of holocaust or no holocaust is still the
> > same, i.e., who give a damn.
>
> Once again, those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it.
We are repeating it now, in Iraq, and the Palestinians in Palestine,
in Lebannon,... Do we care? or is it because they are not us? or the
Middle East people don't have a strong lobby in the United States. Or
Israel got them beaten already? and don't need us to get involve? Why
do you think so much of today's world is against us?
Fact 1:
""On December 7, 1970, West German Chancellor Willy Brandt travelled
to Warsaw, Poland on a state visit meant to improve relations with
Poland and the USSR. On that day, Brandt attended a commemoration of
the Jewish victims of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising of 1943. Although it
had been decades since the historic uprising and the end of the
Holocaust, Brandt was aware of the importance of this official state
visit. He would later describe his thoughts leading up to the event:
An unusual burden accompanied me on my way to Warsaw. Nowhere else had
a people suffered as in Poland. The machine-like annihilation of
Polish Jewry represented a heightening of bloodthirstiness that no one
had held possible. On my way to Warsaw [I carried with me] the memory
of the fight to the death of the Warsaw ghetto."
http://www.facinghistory.org/Campus/Memorials.nsf/0/DC396F572BD4D99F85256FA80055E9B1
Fact 2:
"Ten provinces (Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, New Brunswick,
Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Ontario, Prince Edward Island,
Quebec, Saskatchewan) have declared the Holocaust an official Memorial
Day."
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/hh-teachers/educan04.html
I wonder if you are ignorant or crazy or both.
The rest of post is worthless to refute.
Half-wit abum_chump, which part of the "...On my way to Warsaw [I
carried with me] the memory of the fight to the death of the Warsaw
ghetto." you don't understand? Does this have any connection to the
killing and deaths in the camps?
>
> http://www.facinghistory.org/Campus/Memorials.nsf/0/DC396F572BD4D99F8...
>
> Fact 2:
>
> "Ten provinces (Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, New Brunswick,
> Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Ontario, Prince Edward Island,
> Quebec, Saskatchewan) have declared the Holocaust an official Memorial
> Day."
Oh, yes, it's like Christmas. Even China celebrate Christmas now.
>
> http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/hh-teachers/educan04.html
>
> I wonder if you are ignorant or crazy or both.
No, abum_chump, you are an ignorant and crazy half-wit meathead who
turns at every twist of the U.S. and Jewish lobby.
>
> The rest of post is worthless to refute.
And of course, abum_chump said it all. The rest of his post is
worthless. No need to refute.
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
You could say that about anything you didn't witness firsthand. Do you
believe that there was a civil war in the US? What if I said the
photos and stories are all faked? The further we get from the
Holocaust the easier it will be to claim just about anything.
Interested parties will always try to revise history for their own
agendas, just as some Japanese deny the Rape of Nanking. We all do it
in some way or another. But there is a truth out there, and trying to
deny it doesn't make it go away.
> Those posters said the rest
> of the world, including Canada, didn't believe in it?
I don't accept that "the rest of the world, including Canada, didn't
believe in it". I have visited the concentration camp in Dachau,
Germany, and the Germans there certainly believed in it. Do you have
any evidence other, than these anonymous posters, that the Holocaust
is only accepted in the US? Because I think that claim is flat-out
ridiculous.
> You know it's
> true the Jewish lobby in the United States is very strong.
Yes, I know. But that doesn't prove that the Holocaust didn't happen.
In my opinion the vast majority of Holocaust deniers are the kind of
kooks you find on Usenet. Why might you accept "those posters" but not
accept the overwhelming evidence about the Holocaust, much of it from
people who were there?
>
>
>
> > > My feeling on this subject of holocaust or no holocaust is still the
> > > same, i.e., who give a damn.
>
> > Once again, those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it.
>
> We are repeating it now, in Iraq, and the Palestinians in Palestine,
> in Lebannon,... Do we care? or is it because they are not us? or the
> Middle East people don't have a strong lobby in the United States. Or
> Israel got them beaten already? and don't need us to get involve? Why
> do you think so much of today's world is against us?
That's another whole topic and I have spoken on it many times. But at
any rate, to me the Holocaust is worth remembering. Not because I am
American, but because I am a human being.
"In 1940, the Nazis began concentrating Poland's population of over 3
million Jews into a number of extremely overcrowded ghettos located in
various Polish cities. The largest of these, the Warsaw Ghetto,
concentrated approximately 400,000 people into a densely packed
central area of Warsaw. Thousands of Jews died due to rampant disease
and starvation, even before the Nazis began their massive deportations
from the ghetto to the Treblinka extermination camp. Approximately
300,000 Ghetto residents met their deaths at the Treblinka
extermination camp in the 52 days preceding September 12, 1942.
When the deportations first began, members of the Jewish resistance
movement met and decided not to fight the directives, believing that
the Jews were being sent to labour camps and not to their deaths. By
the end of 1942, however, it became clear that the deportations were
part of an extermination process, and many of the remaining Jews
decided to resist..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising
"Ten provinces (Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, New Brunswick,
Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Ontario, Prince Edward Island,
Quebec, Saskatchewan) have declared the Holocaust an official Memorial
Day."
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/league/hh-teachers/educan04.html
You were right about him. :^))
With that said, let's leave it right there. I did not say I didn't
believe it. I said "who give a damn".
On Nov 5, 3:31 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
> I have a big collection of western movies on DVD.- Hide quoted text -
> > Yes, I agree- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
Some of my friends didn't like it but I did. They thought it didn't
have as much character development as some of his others. That may be
true, compared to Eat Drink Man Woman or The Wedding Banquet. I have
not seen his other movies. The suspense was great though in Lust,
Caution. I was ready to yell when Ms. Wang made her "big mistake" ;-)
Ang Lee's "Sense and Sensibility" is pretty good.
Have you seen Zhang Yimou's movies?
It just opened in China, November 1, I think. Ang Lee himself removed
about 15 minutes for the Chinese version. I'm sure it's the sex
scenes ;-)
> Ang Lee's "Sense and Sensibility" is pretty good.
The one I plan to see soon is Crouching Tiger...
> Have you seen Zhang Yimou's movies?
Nope.
To me, Crouching Tiger is just ok movie but it has great
cinematography.
You should see Zhang Yimou's movies. Almost every one of his movies
(except last 2-3 stupid Kunfu type movies) is classic!!! Start with
his "Raise the Red Lantern".
Could be but I had read the director cut some himself. I can't imagine
what other than the sex would bother the censors but maybe I missed
something.
There's a scene where the Chinese students in 1942 or so talk about
liberating China "for the party" but they don't say what party. It's
probably KMT but I don't know for sure.
> To me, Crouching Tiger is just ok movie but it has great
> cinematography.
> You should see Zhang Yimou's movies. Almost every one of his movies
> (except last 2-3 stupid Kunfu type movies) is classic!!! Start with
> his "Raise the Red Lantern".
Sounds familiar.
>
> On Nov 5, 7:40 pm, bmo...@nyx.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 5, 4:21 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I have not seen the movie yet but I have read movie critics from
> > > Chinese newspapers. I think this is the movie only Chinese will
> > > appreciate it better.
>
> > It just opened in China, November 1, I think. Ang Lee himself removed
> > about 15 minutes for the Chinese version. I'm sure it's the sex
> > scenes ;-)
>
> > > Ang Lee's "Sense and Sensibility" is pretty good.
>
> > The one I plan to see soon is Crouching Tiger...
>
> > > Have you seen Zhang Yimou's movies?
>
> > Nope.- Hide quoted text -
Half wit meathead, why don't you go find something to do. What's
holocaust to you? Does it make any difference to me whether Hitler
killed all the Jews or shipped them to an Island? No, it make no
difference to me. It never entered my mind either way. What's the
big fuss about holocaust?
>
> On Nov 5, 12:37 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 1:10 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Stupid Chimp!
>
> > The biggest chimp is infantile monkey see monkey do abum_chump
> > habitual ignorant dirty filthy lying son-a-bitch.- Hide quoted text -
Hummm!! interesting!! I didn't get out of bed until about 6:30am this
morning, then I had to clean up and make coffee,...
The time on this post says I posted it at 5:22 am this morning!!! I
think I posted this about 20 hours ago. This is a problem with
Google!! and Google stock is at around 750 dollars a share!!!
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 5, 12:37 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 4, 1:10 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Stupid Chimp!
>
> > > The biggest chimp is infantile monkey see monkey do abum_chump
> > > habitual ignorant dirty filthy lying son-a-bitch.- Hide quoted text -
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How can you mentor anything when you are such a half-wit meathead and
an infantile monkey see monkey do habitual ignorant dirty filthy lying
son-of-a-bitch, abum_chump.
<abia...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> That's you, Chinese!
>
>
> On Nov 4, 12:33 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 7:45 am, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Didnt you ask Bill for help yesterday? I see, he did not help you so
>> > you want him go to hell? You are crazy old man!
>>
>> Did you read that thread on why Chinese lie, cheat, steal? Man, you
>> are a perfect fit for it. You are a prime example of why Chinese are
>> so low. You are the low of the lowest scum.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 4, 10:35 am, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Nov 3, 10:57 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > When you defended Nazi's holocaust, didnt Bill Moore say you are
>> > > > even
>> > > > crazier than he had thought?
>>
>> > > abum_chump, who give a damn about holocaust or not. As far as I am
>> > > concern, you and Bill Moore can go to hell.- Hide quoted text -
"rst0wxyz" <rst0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 4, 3:31 pm, "AHL_CAI_WHOAIs_Mother"
> <AHL_CAI_WHOAIs_Mot...@Yayahoo.com> wrote:
> > perhaps if sam provides free sex for all then
> > all would love him.
>
> Well, if sam is desperate enough, he would, believe me. He has the
> power and the authority to do it.
>
>
> >
> > "rst0wxyz" <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1194191493.5...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 3, 11:22 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > No one would believe demorising is a CIA agent. No wonder Bill said
> > > > you are even crazier than he had thought when you defended Nazi's
> > > > holocaust.
> >
> > > Only a fool like you don't feel Uncle Sam has his hand on the
> > > everything. demorising has too much knowledge about China, the level
> > > of personnel at the top and their background. I have a big interest
> > > in China and Chinese history, but I have no interest in knowing who
> > > those people at the top other than Hu Jintao and the prime minister
> > > Wen (whatever his other name).
> >
> > > During Wen Ho Lee's spy-case time, newspaper mentioned a security
> > > officer from Lawrance Radiation Lab named Morrision working on the
> > > case, he also worked on another case where the U.S. deported a Chinese
> > > national back to China named Peter. I can't remember his last name.
> >
> > > Morrison had a trip to China, and at the Shengyeng airport, he said he
> > > saw Peter at the airport. He thought the Chinese was intentionally
> > > trying to tell him that he was being followed.
> >
> > > I believe this demorising IS this security officer used to work at the
> > > Lawrence Radiation Lab named Morrison.- Hide quoted text -
"rst0wxyz" <rst0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 4, 3:35 pm, "AHL_CAI_WHOAIs_Mother"
> <AHL_CAI_WHOAIs_Mot...@Yayahoo.com> wrote:
> > What is CIA ?
> > Controversially Irritable Amygdala?
>
> No, CIA stands for "Call In (the) Animals.
>
"Ronald Moshki" <secto...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194196286.6...@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> You have no knowledge. That is why you are a cleaner in a Chinkie
> restaurant, always hiding from the U.S. Immigration Authorities and
> scared of your own shadow. They'll get you one day and send you back
> to Chinkieland!
>
> On Nov 4, 5:05 pm, "abianc...@my-deja.com" <abianc...@my-deja.com>
> wrote:
> > He has too much knowledge about China so he is a CIA agent? Is that
> > your reasoning? No wonder Bill said you are even crazier than he had
> > though. I agree.
> >
> > Hmmm.. Professor Jonathan Spence must be a CIA agent, he also has too
> > much knowledge about China. LOL!
> >
> > Crazy old man, are you a CCP agent?
> >
> > Here's your favorite website:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
You win the grand prize, hands down.
>
> "rst0wxyz" <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1194241134.2...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 3:35 pm, "AHL_CAI_WHOAIs_Mother"
> > <AHL_CAI_WHOAIs_Mot...@Yayahoo.com> wrote:
> > > What is CIA ?
> > > Controversially Irritable Amygdala?
>
> > No, CIA stands for "Call In (the) Animals.- Hide quoted text -
What have you done for sam to deserve it?
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What have you done for sam to deserve it?
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"rst0wxyz" <rst0...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Hummm!! this sounds like a John F, Kennedy in reverse.
But they're not charging you for using Google Groups ;-)
I use Google for groups too but it's quite erratic. Some posts don't
even make it at all.
True, true,..
>
> I use Google for groups too but it's quite erratic. Some posts don't
> even make it at all.
Are you sure demorising and his CIA cohorts are not watching over our
shoulders?
I'm pretty sure it's J. Venning with MI5 ;-)
I believe his raising that issue would be what is known as "passive-
aggressive" behavior.
Hmmm... that's what you claim, anyway.