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fyf...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 12:51:04 AM6/18/07
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When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
violence to break down that resistance.

According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
by a robber or gangster.

True?

ltl...@hotmail.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 12:54:29 AM6/18/07
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The Jewish people had been demonized for many years as "Jesus killer."
"Ice frozen three feet, not a day's cold."

The proximal reason, the Germans think they are better people and they
want
an Ayran homeland.

Peter Webb

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Jun 18, 2007, 12:58:12 AM6/18/07
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<fyf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
> violence to break down that resistance.
>
> According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust.

One of many.

> the Nazis
> needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
> rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
> legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
> slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
> by a robber or gangster.
>
> True?
>

I doubt know. I doubt that many people would list this as the main reason
for the Holocaust.

kixi

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Jun 18, 2007, 1:18:53 AM6/18/07
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There is no evidence that Hitler wanted to kill the jews. Documents
show that Germany wanted to be rid of the jews - by deportation. The
most likely destination would have been Madagascar but ... as the war
consumed more and more resources Hitler decided that that a solution
to the jewish problem be postponed until after the war.

Documents exist is support of the above. No document exists showing
Hitler gave ary order to kill the jews and no document existes showing
that Hitler knew of any plan to kill the jews.

As a matter of fact the International Committee of the Red Cross knew
of no systematic killing of the jews ... neither did the Catholic or
any other church. It seem the only people who "knew" jews were
systematically being put to death were a few jews, all or nearly all
of whom have been shown to be liars.

That's not to say that there weren't people who wanted jews killed or
that some were killed. Much the same sentiment exists today ... and
many of us understand why.

Mikein...@aol.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 2:57:41 AM6/18/07
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Hitler's view expressed in a speech in 1944 was that the Jews were
racially the strongest group in Germany but one that would not
integrate. Thus they would take over Germany.

The Nazis wanted them removed and did not care much how. Deportation
was the obvious means but murder was another route if convenient.


Ariadne

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Jun 18, 2007, 3:57:40 AM6/18/07
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After he had murdered millions of them?
Not too convincing!


> was that the Jews were
> racially the strongest group in Germany but one that would not
> integrate. Thus they would take over Germany.
>
> The Nazis wanted them removed and did not care much how. Deportation

> was the obvious means but murder was another route if convenient.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


ralph

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Jun 18, 2007, 5:51:40 AM6/18/07
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:18:53 -0700, kixi <k...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>There is no evidence that Hitler wanted to kill the jews. Documents
>show that Germany wanted to be rid of the jews - by deportation. The
>most likely destination would have been Madagascar but ... as the war
>consumed more and more resources Hitler decided that that a solution
>to the jewish problem be postponed until after the war.
>
>Documents exist is support of the above. No document exists showing
>Hitler gave ary order to kill the jews and no document existes showing
>that Hitler knew of any plan to kill the jews.
>

Your point? I mean no documents exist to show that your parents were
in fact brother and sister, but we can still see it's true.

>As a matter of fact the International Committee of the Red Cross knew
>of no systematic killing of the jews ... neither did the Catholic or
>any other church. It seem the only people who "knew" jews were
>systematically being put to death were a few jews, all or nearly all
>of whom have been shown to be liars.
>
>That's not to say that there weren't people who wanted jews killed or
>that some were killed. Much the same sentiment exists today ... and
>many of us understand why.

Kixi the nazi first says that Hitler didn't want to kill jews ... but
of course adds that he was justified in doing so.

In other words ... it's just another forked-tongue inbred fooling
nobody but his fellow nazi retards.

jb

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Jun 18, 2007, 6:08:18 AM6/18/07
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"ralph" <rste...@geocities.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:18:53 -0700, kixi <k...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>There is no evidence that Hitler wanted to kill the jews. Documents
>>show that Germany wanted to be rid of the jews - by deportation. The
>>most likely destination would have been Madagascar but ... as the war
>>consumed more and more resources Hitler decided that that a solution
>>to the jewish problem be postponed until after the war.
>>
>>Documents exist is support of the above. No document exists showing
>>Hitler gave ary order to kill the jews and no document existes showing
>>that Hitler knew of any plan to kill the jews.
>>
>
> Your point? I mean no documents exist to show that your parents were
> in fact brother and sister, but we can still see it's true.

Wow! that tore him a new one.
Way to go ralphy, how your Dad?
Is he still police chief in Springfield.
Your Mom looks a fox, is she really your sister?
Give my regards to Bart and Lisa.
Your ever loving Krusty:-))


>
>>As a matter of fact the International Committee of the Red Cross knew
>>of no systematic killing of the jews ... neither did the Catholic or
>>any other church. It seem the only people who "knew" jews were
>>systematically being put to death were a few jews, all or nearly all
>>of whom have been shown to be liars.
>>
>>That's not to say that there weren't people who wanted jews killed or
>>that some were killed. Much the same sentiment exists today ... and
>>many of us understand why.
>
> Kixi the nazi first says that Hitler didn't want to kill jews ... but
> of course adds that he was justified in doing so.

No he doesn't Ralphy, that's just you playing semantics or should that be
semitics:-))


>
> In other words ... it's just another forked-tongue inbred fooling

> nobody but his fellow JOOISH retards.
There that scans a lot better, as David Icke calls the Jooze lizards surely
the forked tongue belongs amongst the chosen:-))

And the Lord God made the Jooze his chosen people, saying unto them, you are
the most repulsive people on Earth and I have chosen you to be marked as
such.
There was a bright flash of light and since then the Jooze have to wear pink
glasses because of their poor eyesight:-))
NOHANDHTH

crazyhorse

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Jun 18, 2007, 6:14:57 AM6/18/07
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I think that it goes further back than that; to WW1 which Hitler
fought in and Germany lost. Not only that, but as with The Allies,
they lost millions of young men in stalemate battles which were
nothing less than slaughter. Except of course Britain won, and the
dead became fallen heroes for the cause. Germany's defeat brought
years of depression with rampant inflation, and high numbers of
unemployed of which Hitler was one for a while.

As an ex fighter for his country, it would be doubly galling to see
certain groups of people - shopkeepers, bankers, etc. still managing
to make a good living while he struggled, and also many of them having
not fought in the war. That a large number of these people were Jewish
did not escape his notice.

Stephen Green

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Jun 18, 2007, 7:20:43 AM6/18/07
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kixi wrote:

========================

Oh bullshit!

readHot

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Jun 18, 2007, 8:11:12 AM6/18/07
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His mother was half Jewish, isn't that a good enough reason?

H Dickmann

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Jun 18, 2007, 9:50:41 AM6/18/07
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"Peter Webb" <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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It isn't a reason at all.
The Nazis didn't need any money. They just printed it.


rst0wxyz

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Jun 18, 2007, 10:41:37 AM6/18/07
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Where can I find supporting document/books to support what you claimed
above. What you're saying is that the president of Iran was right
that the holocaust was a myth. It really never happened.

fyf...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 10:52:16 AM6/18/07
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On 6 18 , 8 11 , readHot <r...@fireball.org> wrote:

I doubt it...

fyf...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 10:53:37 AM6/18/07
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> that the holocaust was a myth. It really never happened.- -
>
> - -

And there were some orthodox Jews that were well received by the
President of Iran. These Jews share the same view.

Bert Hyman

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Jun 18, 2007, 11:08:23 AM6/18/07
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fyf...@gmail.com (fyf...@gmail.com) wrote in
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> And there were some orthodox Jews that were well received by the
> President of Iran. These Jews share the same view.

You're talking about the Neturei Karta, and they don't share that
view at all.

The single position they share is that they're anti-Zionists.

They're anti-Zionist because they believe that a Jewish state can
only be formed after the arrival of the Messiah.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com

fyf...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 11:37:26 AM6/18/07
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On 6 18 , 11 08 , Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> fyfp...@gmail.com (fyfp...@gmail.com) wrote innews:1182178417.3...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > And there were some orthodox Jews that were well received by the
> > President of Iran. These Jews share the same view.
>
> You're talking about the Neturei Karta, and they don't share that
> view at all.
>
> The single position they share is that they're anti-Zionists.
>
> They're anti-Zionist because they believe that a Jewish state can
> only be formed after the arrival of the Messiah.
>
> --
> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

Thanks for the knowledge. So does it mean that the state of Israel
should not have been formed?

Bert Hyman

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Jun 18, 2007, 11:42:32 AM6/18/07
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fyf...@gmail.com (fyf...@gmail.com) wrote in
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> On 6 18 , 11 08 , Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> fyfp...@gmail.com (fyfp...@gmail.com) wrote
>> innews:1182178417.3...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > And there were some orthodox Jews that were well received by the
>> > President of Iran. These Jews share the same view.
>>
>> You're talking about the Neturei Karta, and they don't share that
>> view at all.
>>
>> The single position they share is that they're anti-Zionists.
>>
>> They're anti-Zionist because they believe that a Jewish state can
>> only be formed after the arrival of the Messiah.
>

> Thanks for the knowledge. So does it mean that the state of Israel
> should not have been formed?

The fringe group Neturei Karta believes so, a host of anti-Semites
believe so, as do a small handful of others with various odd
religious and political beliefs.

Where do you fit in?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com

David Johnston

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Jun 18, 2007, 12:30:48 PM6/18/07
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It means they think that.

allan tracy

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Jun 18, 2007, 1:19:26 PM6/18/07
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>
> I think that it goes further back than that; to WW1 which Hitler
> fought in and Germany lost. Not only that, but as with The Allies,
> they lost millions of young men in stalemate battles which were
> nothing less than slaughter. Except of course Britain won, and the
> dead became fallen heroes for the cause. Germany's defeat brought
> years of depression with rampant inflation, and high numbers of
> unemployed of which Hitler was one for a while.
>
> As an ex fighter for his country, it would be doubly galling to see
> certain groups of people - shopkeepers, bankers, etc. still managing
> to make a good living while he struggled, and also many of them having
> not fought in the war. That a large number of these people were Jewish
> did not escape his notice.-
>

Specifically, Hitler and his ilk always blamed the Jewish contingent
of the Government for, as they saw it, selling Germany down the river
by accepting less than favourable terms and conditions for peace
following the Armistice

Duncan Patton

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Jun 18, 2007, 1:53:37 PM6/18/07
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On 18 Jun 2007 15:42:32 GMT
Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

My own "odd" take on it is that the State of Israel does not have the religious
sanction some would claim for it. This would imply that Israel has a real need
to settle-up on the land-claims issue before it can become a modern, secular
state.

Dhu


Duncan Patton

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Jun 18, 2007, 1:57:53 PM6/18/07
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:37:26 -0000
"fyf...@gmail.com" <fyf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Whether or not Israel should or should not have been formed is presently
moot. The point is only that Israel is *illigitimate* as a *religious*
state. Which many Israelis think not so bad a thing.

Dhu

Mikein...@aol.com

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Jun 18, 2007, 2:18:14 PM6/18/07
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Hitler told the SS in 1944 at the Berchtesgarten hotel that if the
Jews had not been removed they would have taken over.

kixi

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> that the holocaust was a myth. It really never happened.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm not sure the President of Iran said the "H" was a myth. He might
have but I won't trust our jewish media to tell the truth about Iran.
Iran permits open discussion on the "H" - unlike much of the west
which falls under jewish media influence.

A starting point for serious examination of the most controvercial
topic on the Net is the site of the Institute for Historical Review,
http://www.ihr.org/ Go to their "Leaflets" page at http://www.ihr.org/main/leaflets.shtml
and try any of their short articles. The one that got me on the path
to truth was The 'Jewish Soap' Myth.

jb

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Jun 18, 2007, 3:39:29 PM6/18/07
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"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> They're anti-Zionist because they believe that a Jewish state can
> only be formed after the arrival of the Messiah.


Well there's a business opportunity going to waste!
Wotcha waiting for Bert, get in there?

rst0wxyz

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Jun 18, 2007, 5:51:40 PM6/18/07
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> topic on the Net is the site of the Institute for Historical Review,http://www.ihr.org/ Go to their "Leaflets" page athttp://www.ihr.org/main/leaflets.shtml

> and try any of their short articles. The one that got me on the path
> to truth was The 'Jewish Soap' Myth.

I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long.
I also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
involved in this deception.


readHot

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Anarchore

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fyf...@gmail.com has brought this to us :

> When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> inevitably a certain level of resistance,

Exactly. The Jews were the gangsters and robbers. Hitler freed
Germany from the Jewish dominance.


Anarchore

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Jun 18, 2007, 6:42:17 PM6/18/07
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ltl...@hotmail.com submitted this idea :

> On Jun 18, 12:51 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
>> inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
>> violence to break down that resistance.
>>
>> According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
>> needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
>> rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
>> legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
>> slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
>> by a robber or gangster.
>>
>> True?
>
> The Jewish people had been demonized for many years as "Jesus killer."
> "Ice frozen three feet, not a day's cold."
>
> The proximal reason, the Germans think they are better people and they
> want
> an Ayran homeland.

Jews were wrecking the economy and the morals of the nation, much like
they are today.


Anarchore

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Jun 18, 2007, 6:44:43 PM6/18/07
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Mikein...@aol.com submitted this idea :

Sort of like how the Jew neocon movement got the US Canada and Britain
into their wars. All three Zionist Occupied Goverments, in support of
the filthy terrorstate Israhell.

http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/


Viejo Vizcacha

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Jun 18, 2007, 10:22:25 PM6/18/07
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What the president of Iran said was that it was not important to
debate the number of Jews killed in WWII, but what it was important is
that they were not killed by Palestinians, so he said that if someone
had to give up territory to compensate for the genocide, it should be
Ukraine, Poland, Germany, Austria, and other European countries, but
not the Palestinians, whose only crime was to have permitted Jews to
settle among them.

VV

Siegfreed

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Jun 19, 2007, 10:33:19 AM6/19/07
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>>> When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
>>> inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
>>> violence to break down that resistance.
>>>
>>> According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
>>> needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
>>> rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
>>> legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
>>> slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
>>> by a robber or gangster.
>>>
>>> True?
>>
>> The Jewish people had been demonized for many years as "Jesus killer."
>> "Ice frozen three feet, not a day's cold."
>>
>> The proximal reason, the Germans think they are better people and they
>> want an Ayran homeland.
>
> Jews were wrecking the economy and the morals of the nation, much like
> they are today.
>
Not true. Albert Einstein (like many other Jews) was certainly not
"wrecking the economy and the morals of the nation", he was positively
contributing to the growth and development of Germany, and Europe.

Siegfreed

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>>>When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
>>>inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
>>>violence to break down that resistance.
>>>
>>>According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust.
>>
>>One of many.
>>
>>>the Nazis
>>>needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
>>>rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
>>>legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
>>>slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
>>>by a robber or gangster.
>>>
>>>True?
>>
>>I doubt know. I doubt that many people would list this as the main reason
>>for the Holocaust.
>>
>
> It isn't a reason at all.
> The Nazis didn't need any money. They just printed it.
>
Not true. The Nazi did not print money indiscriminately, this was done
in 1923. In those days the Nazi were not in power. For more details, do
a Google search, using the keywords; "Hyperinflation", and "Republic of
Weimar".

Siegfreed

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Jun 19, 2007, 10:45:36 AM6/19/07
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>>When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
>>inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
>>violence to break down that resistance.
>>
>>According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis

>>needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
>>rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
>>legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
>>slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
>>by a robber or gangster.
>>
>>True?
>
>
> There is no evidence that Hitler wanted to kill the jews. Documents
> show that Germany wanted to be rid of the jews - by deportation. The
> most likely destination would have been Madagascar but ... as the war
> consumed more and more resources Hitler decided that that a solution
> to the jewish problem be postponed until after the war.
>
> Documents exist is support of the above. No document exists showing
> Hitler gave ary order to kill the jews and no document existes showing
> that Hitler knew of any plan to kill the jews.

What about Heinrich Himmler?

> As a matter of fact the International Committee of the Red Cross knew
> of no systematic killing of the jews ... neither did the Catholic or
> any other church.

The awraeness of the "International Committee of the Red Cross", or of
"the Catholic or any other church", prove nothing.

> It seem the only people who "knew" jews were
> systematically being put to death were a few jews, all or nearly all
> of whom have been shown to be liars.

What about Heinrich Himmler? Was he aware of any policy directed
towards the extermination of jews?

> That's not to say that there weren't people who wanted jews killed or
> that some were killed.

Details please?

Much the same sentiment exists today ... and many of us understand why.

I do not. Maybe you can explain?

Siegfreed

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Jun 19, 2007, 10:54:33 AM6/19/07
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The only crime of the "Palestinians" was to have permitted Jews to
settle in the land were their ancestors were living since 1200 BC.

Zahir Muhsein explains:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian
state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of
Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference
between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for
political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit
the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined
borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian,
I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem.
However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will
not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

purtybird0

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Jun 19, 2007, 11:06:29 AM6/19/07
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> > topic on the Net is the site of the Institute for Historical Review,http://www.ihr.org/Go to their "Leaflets" page athttp://www.ihr.org/main/leaflets.shtml

> > and try any of their short articles. The one that got me on the path
> > to truth was The 'Jewish Soap' Myth.
>
> I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
> link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long.
> I also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
> nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
> Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
> involved in this deception.

If one read the internationaly banned book Mine Kemf,
one would realise Hitler was controlled
into his actions, and his intent was against the Zionists not the
Jewish people.

Viejo Vizcacha

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Jun 19, 2007, 7:49:44 PM6/19/07
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Oops! I did not realize that we had entered the "Quotation zone."

Fair enough! Here are more quotations, since you seem the kind of guy
that enjoys this sort of things.

"We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by
procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it
any
employment in our own country .... expropriation and the removal of
the
poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly."
-- Theodore Herzl (from Rafael Patai, Ed. The Complete Diaries of
Theodore Herzl, Vol I)


"... it is the duty of the [Israeli] leadership to explain to the
public a
number of truths. One truth is that there is no Zionism, no
settlement,
and no Jewish state without evacuating Arabs, and without
expropriating
lands and their fencing off."
-- Yesha'ayahu Ben-Porat, (Yedi'ot Aharonot 07/14/1972) responding to
public controversy regarding the Israeli evictions of Palestinians in
Rafah, Gaza, in 1972. (Cited in Nur Masalha's "A Land Without A
People"
1997, p.98)

"... we have no solution, that you shall continue to live like dogs,
and
whoever wants to can leave -- and we will see where this process
leads? In five years we may have 200,000 less people -- and that is a
matter of
enormous importance."
-- Moshe Dayan encouraging the transfer of Gaza strip refugees to
Jordan
(from Noam Chomsky's Deterring Democracy, 1992, p.434, quoted in Nur
Masalha's A Land Without A People, 1997 p.92).

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are
the
aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs,
because
they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in
their view we want to take away from them their country. ... Behind
the
terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not
devoid of idealism and self sacrifice."
-- David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle,
which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2
citing a 1938 speech.


Please tell me if you want more.

VV

Topaz

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Jun 19, 2007, 7:53:38 PM6/19/07
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Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
media and the Jews were behind Communism. Here are some quotes from
Mein Kampf:


"In my eyes the charge against Judaism became a grave one the
moment I discovered the Jewish activities in the Press, in art, in
literature and the theatre. All unctuous protests were now more or
less futile. One needed only to look at the posters announcing the
hideous productions of the cinema and theatre, and study the names of
the authors who were highly lauded there in order to become
permanently adamant on Jewish questions. Here was a pestilence, a
moral pestilence, with which the public was being infected. It was
worse that the Black Plague of long ago. And in what mighty doses
this poison was manufactured and distributed. Naturally, the
lower the moral and intellectual level of such an author of artistic
products the more inexhaustible his fecundity. Sometimes it went so
far that one of these fellows, acting like a sewage pump, would shoot
his filth directly in the face of other members of the human race. In
this connection
we must remember there is no limit to the number of such people. One
ought to realize that for one Goethe, Nature may bring into existence
ten thousand such despoilers who act as the worst kind of
germ-carriers in poisoning human souls. It was a terrible thought,
and yet it could not be
avoided, that the greater number of the Jews seemed specially
destined by Nature to play this shameful part.

"And is it for this reason that they can be called the chosen
people? "I began then to investigate carefully the names of all the
fabricators of these unclean products in public cultural life. The
result of that inquiry was still more disfavourable to the attitude
which I had hitherto held in regard to the Jews. Though my feelings
might rebel a thousand times, reason now had to draw its own
conclusions. "The fact that nine-tenths of all the smutty literature,
artistic tripe and theatrical banalities, had to be charged to the
account of people who formed scarcely one per cent of the nation-
that fact could not be gainsaid. It was there, and had to be
admitted. Then I began to examine my favorite 'World Press', with
that fact before my mind. "The deeper my soundings went the lesser
grew my respect for that Press which I formerly admired. Its style
became still more repellant and I was forced to reject its ideas as
entirely shallow and superficial. To claim that in the presentation
of facts and views its attitude was impartial seemed to me to contain
more falsehood than truth. The writers were- Jews.

"Thousands of details that I had scarcely noticed before seemed
to me now to deserve attention. I began to grasp and understand
things which I had formerly looked at in a different light."

"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried
to read articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but
in doing so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about
learning something of the people who wrote and published this
mischievous stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were
Jews. I recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism,
and then I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race-
the Social Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well
as the secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators.
Everywhere the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never
forget the row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and
others. One fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien
race held in its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party
with whose minor representatives I had been disputing for months
past."

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/

http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html

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During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.
Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.
But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>

An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote>

The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.
The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:
Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)
Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."
Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.
David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."
The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."
In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.
The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.
In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.
One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.
Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."
The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."
From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.
The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:

"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."
Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.
Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."

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September 10, 2005
Israel's Successful Use of the Art of Realpolitik

by Ramzy Baroud

Many lessons can be drawn from the observation of Israeli dominion
over
the Palestinians in the past fifty-five years, most notably the
audacious mandate of institutionalized violence.

Even more alarming than the crimes themselves is the fact that even
after blatantly violating international law, Israel manages to remain
in the safety of the fold of the international community. Perhaps the
Sharon government gleaned its wisdom from Niccolo Machiavelli's
treatise, The Prince, rather than the Geneva Conventions. Consider the
following scenario as a paradigm of the Machiavellian philosophy
applied to the "Palestinian problem":

The fall of the classic theory and practice of imperialism compels us
modern imperialists, who are keenly interested in maintaining control
of our remaining settlements, to develop an advanced strategy that
will
protect our interests. Consolidating our power over indigenous
populations may be difficult, but if done the right way, the Israeli
way, that is, our settlements can be successfully sustained while our
subjects are effectively subdued.

An important factor in institutionalizing oppression is through the
utilization of the legal system. Israel has successfully passed laws,
such as the Law of Return, which allow Jews and only Jews, to
immigrate
to Israel based on their race, while Palestinians are denied the right
to live in their homeland and on their own property because they don't
fit into this category.

Moreover, the Absentee Law allows the state to confiscate the property
of dispossessed Palestinians and claim it as state property. These
laws
have proved quite successful, since they make race the determining
factor in attaining rights in Israel, with Jews as first class
citizens
and Arabs second class. They also rid Israel of some five million
refugees, scattered elsewhere.

Another important element of institutionalized oppression is military
occupation. Israel has occupied Palestine and other Arab lands for
decades. This way, although condemned by futile United Nations
resolutions, Israel has successfully achieved the upper hand over its
subjects.

The modern imperialist must understand that a strong army remains
essential in controlling the settlements and their people. Thanks to
the sheer strength of Israel's invincible army, Palestinian rebellions
have been suppressed through massive applications of force. It doesn't
matter whether force is used against armed or unarmed individuals,
children, women or the elderly. What matters most is conveying a
message that subjects have no chance of gaining the rights for which
they fight, and if they want to live, they must surrender to whatever
the State demands.

Today's imperialists must use the mass media, for it is unquestionably
the most effective tool in winning today's wars. It is important that
the message conveyed through the media highlights the losses of the
colonialist, not the colonized. The media must portray us as civilized
and our enemies as savage; it must show us as righteous and our
enemies
as wicked; it must show us as peaceful and our enemies as terrorists.

If the media is tightly controlled, we can fashion our own reality. We
can cause the world to blame our enemy when we kill their children,
and
we can make our soldiers heroes while their fighters are branded as
criminals. Israel has indeed mastered the art of media control, to the
point that we can even blame Palestinian parents for sending their
children to be killed to grab media attention. Interestingly enough,
many believe us.

Killing your enemies, torturing prisoners, occupying land and
confiscating properties are very important, but not enough. You must
humble the enemy while you carry out your policies. The tactic of
humiliation is indeed a winning stratagem, for through its employment,
you can destroy the spirit of your enemy. Yes you can kill a man, but
slaying him as his family watches and then stealing his dead body is
more effective.

You can beat a defiant young man who refuses to plead for mercy, but
if
you strip him naked first, you will certainly break his defiant spirit
and make him wish for death. Yes you can torture a prisoner by beating
him, but imagine how successful it will be if you threaten to rape, or
if you do in fact rape, his wife or sister. We've done it, and it was
often quite successful.

If your subjects submit, reward them with partial freedom and allow
them to get menial jobs. But if they defy you, clamp down and have no
mercy. Otherwise they will rebel too often. If you push them until
they
rise up against you, don't back down. Fight back. Close down their
schools, uproot their trees, burn down their farms, block their
streets, isolate their cities, demolish their homes, throw them in
jail, keep them under curfew for weeks, deny them clean water,
electricity and basic supplies.

If they increase their defiance by using firearms, then feel free to
do
all that can be done. In Israel, for example, we are using our best
high-tech weapons against them: F-15s, F-16s, Apache helicopters,
missiles and more.

Destroy their symbols and deny them an identity. In Israel we have
destroyed numerous mosques and have attacked and desecrated many
churches. Imagine what that made them feel? Even God cannot protect
them now.

If you issue them with identification cards, designate their
nationality as "undefined." Burn their flags, ban their books, forbid
them from learning their own history; call their intellectuals
"militants" and their leaders "fanatics." Make them feel trapped with
nowhere to escape.

Besiege their land, their air and water. Make them feel like a wild
animal trapped in a net. Terrorize them. Give them ultimatums. Force
them to accept their fate, which of course you ordain.

Turn them against each other whenever possible. Some of them might be
weak, easy to manipulate. Use these to spy on the others. If such
traitors become known, they'll be jailed or even executed. That's
good,
because then, like we do here in Israel, you can tell the world that
your enemies violate human rights. You win both ways.

Build trenches and enormous walls around their fertile land, towns and
villages, as we have done throughout the West Bank with our famous
security fence. We said it was a security measure. The world believed
us, and the people lost thousands of hectares of fertile land that is
now in our hands, free of its inhabitants, whose high numbers have
threatened our racial supremacy for generations.

Eradicate their forests and woodlands. Dump your toxic waste in their
land and destroy their environment. In short, imprison their men, rape
their land, murder their youth and push them to the brink of
desperation, to the point of suicide, literally. You will then have
succeeded in the complete dehumanization and defeat of your enemy,
while through the media you will have convinced the world you are
actually the victim.

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On Jun 19, 7:55 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
> the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.


There is NO comparison between the USA concentration camps for
Japanese-Americans (something that should shame Americans until
today), and the ones in German dominated Europe for Jews, Communists,
Socialists, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and other "undesirables." That is
why I refuse to call them "concentration" camps and use the more
accurate "extermination camps", since I believe that this more
precisely reflects what was going on there.

And there is plenty of testimony and proof about the Nazi
Extermination Camps.


VV

> Charles Don Hall <cdhall-nos...@erols.com> wrote in article
> <8F4CB71B7NukuN...@news.erols.com>...


> "Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
> deceive.
> "The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
> tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
> crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
> it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
> admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
> They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
> was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
> evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
> died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
> the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
> the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
> used to be gas chambers.
> But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
> confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:

> "In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], thehistorian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the

> was later proven that ...
>
> read more »


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Yes, I want more. David Ben Gurion spoke the truth. Of course, the
others also.


rst0wxyz

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On Jun 19, 5:03 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <nats_ugly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 7:55 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> > concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> > political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
> > was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> > because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
> > the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
>
> There is NO comparison between the USA concentration camps for
> Japanese-Americans (something that should shame Americans until
> today),

A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.
The Japanese in the U.S. were treated just like the Germans treated
the Jews. The difference was war-time conditions of the countries.
Germany was being bombed and destroyed. Food and medicine were
scarce, not only for the prisoners, but also for the Germans
themselves.

> and the ones in German dominated Europe for Jews, Communists,
> Socialists, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and other "undesirables." That is
> why I refuse to call them "concentration" camps and use the more
> accurate "extermination camps", since I believe that this more
> precisely reflects what was going on there.
>
> And there is plenty of testimony and proof about the Nazi
> Extermination Camps.

Reading the posts from the last few days have opened my eyes to the so-
called "extermination camps" and Nazi's gas chambers. As I have said
many times: American propaganda is the biggest and the most effective
in the world.

> > and for the most part- Hide quoted text -
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rst0wxyz

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This method only creates more enemy. The Iraq war is an example of
this method.

Viejo Vizcacha

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rst0wxyz wrote:
> On Jun 19, 5:03 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <nats_ugly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 7:55 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
>>> concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
>>> political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
>>> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
>>> because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
>>> the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
>> There is NO comparison between the USA concentration camps for
>> Japanese-Americans (something that should shame Americans until
>> today),
>
> A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.


Agree. That is why the German ones were not concentration camps, but
extermination camps.

VV

rst0wxyz

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On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_jovis_ka...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> rst0wxyz wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 5:03 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <nats_ugly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 19, 7:55 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> >>> concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> >>> political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
> >>> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> >>> because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
> >>> the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
> >> There is NO comparison between the USA concentration camps for
> >> Japanese-Americans (something that should shame Americans until
> >> today),
>
> > A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.
>
> Agree. That is why the German ones were not concentration camps, >but extermination camps.

You intentional skipped the rest of that paragraph which is very
meaningful. War-time Germany was in very bad shape. The German
people themselves had barely enough to eat. Of course, not much food
were sent to the prisoners. The posts in other threads from the few
days tried to explain why the Jews died in those camps.

person

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On Jun 18, 1:51 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
> violence to break down that resistance.
>
> According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
> needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
> rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
> legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
> slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
> by a robber or gangster.
>
> True?

The Russian government (pre-Communist) was involved in many pograms
against the jews and after the failed revolution in 1905 - which was
backed by many jewish intellectuals - the Russian secret police
fabricated a number of works, including "The Protocols of Zion" and
the myth of The Aryan Race, to oppose both the socialist democrats as
well as the Communists.

Hitler was a believer in this crap, as he clearly outlined in "Mein
Kampf".

fyf...@gmail.com

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It shows the Jews by circumstances were very good in doing what they
were doing. But that does not justify the destruction of an entire
race of people. The Chinese, for example, were made into good traders
and entrepreneurs by circumstances too.

fyf...@gmail.com

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The Nazis did believe in this crap. Inspite of the fact that many of
them were very calculating people, they were romantics.

Mikein...@aol.com

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Let's not forget Churchill's concentration camps. Isle of Man and
elsewhere. I've known four people who were in them. An Austrian Jew,
an Italian, an English member of Mosley's party and the son of Germans
who was born in one.


Topaz

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>It shows the Jews by circumstances were very good in doing what they
>were doing. But that does not justify the destruction of an entire
>race of people. The Chinese, for example, were made into good traders
>and entrepreneurs by circumstances too.

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/review-AR.html

Kevin MacDonald's The Culture of Critique

Reviewed by Stanley Hornbeck

In The Culture of Critique, Kevin MacDonald advances a carefully
researched but extremely controversial thesis: that certain 20th
century intellectual movements -- largely established and led by Jews
-- have changed European societies in fundamental ways and destroyed
the confidence of Western man. He claims that these movements were
designed, consciously or unconsciously, to advance Jewish interests
even though they were presented to non-Jews as universalistic and even
utopian. He concludes that the increasing dominance of these ideas has
had profound political and social consequences that benefited Jews but
caused great harm to gentile societies. This analysis, which he makes
with considerable force, is an unusual indictment of a people
generally
thought to be more sinned against than sinning.

The Culture of Critique is the final title in Prof. MacDonald's
massive, three-volume study of Jews and their role in history. The two
previous volumes are A People That Shall Dwell Alone and Separation
and
its Discontents, published by Praeger in 1994 and 1998. The series is
written from a sociobiological perspective that views Judaism as a
unique survival strategy that helps Jews compete with other ethnic
groups. Prof. MacDonald, who is a psychologist at the University of
California at Long Beach, explains this perspective in the first
volume, which describes Jews as having a very powerful sense of
uniqueness that has kept them socially and genetically separate from
other peoples. The second volume traces the history of Jewish-gentile
relations, and finds the causes of anti-Semitism primarily in the
almost invariable commercial and intellectual dominance of gentile
societies by Jews and in their refusal to assimilate. The Culture of
Critique brings his analysis into the present century, with an account
of the Jewish role in the radical critique of traditional culture.

The intellectual movements Prof. MacDonald discusses in this volume
are
Marxism, Freudian psychoanalysis, the Frankfurt school of sociology,
and Boasian anthropology. Perhaps most relevant from a racial
perspective, he also traces the role of Jews in promoting
multi-culturalism and Third World immigration. Throughout his analysis
Prof. MacDonald reiterates his view that Jews have promoted these
movements as Jews and in the interests of Jews, though they have often
tried to give the impression that they had no distinctive interests of
their own. Therefore Prof. MacDonald's most profound charge against
Jews is not ethnocentrism but dishonesty -- that while claiming to be
working for the good of mankind they have often worked for their own
good and to the detriment of others. While attempting to promote the
brotherhood of man by dissolving the ethnic identification of
gentiles,
Jews have maintained precisely the kind of intense group solidarity
they decry as immoral in others.

Celebrating Diversity
Prof. MacDonald claims that one of the most consistent ways in which
Jews have advanced their interests has been to promote pluralism and
diversity -- but only for others. Ever since the 19th century, they
have led movements that tried to discredit the traditional foundations
of gentile society: patriotism, racial loyalty, the Christian basis
for
morality, social homogeneity, and sexual restraint. At the same time,
within their own communities, and with regard to the state of Israel,
they have often supported the very institutions they attack in gentile
society.

Why is this in the interests of Jews? Because the parochial group
loyalty characteristic of Jews attracts far less attention in a
society
that does not have a cohesive racial and cultural core. The Jewish
determination not to assimilate fully, which accounts for their
survival as a people for thousands for years -- even without a country
-- has invariably attracted unpleasant and even murderous scrutiny in
nations with well -defined national identities. In Prof. MacDonald's
view it is therefore in the interest of Jews to dilute and weaken the
identity of any people among whom they live. Jewish identity can
flower
in safety only when gentile identity is weak.

Prof. MacDonald quotes a remarkable passage from Charles Silberman:
"American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their
belief -- one firmly rooted in history -- that Jews are safe only in a
society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well
as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for
example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming
majority of American Jews to endorse 'gay rights' and to take a
liberal
stance on most other so-called 'social' issues."

He is saying, in effect, that when Jews make the
diversity-is-our-strength argument it is in support of their real goal
of diluting a society's homogeneity so that Jews will feel safe. They
are couching a Jewish agenda in terms they think gentiles will accept.
Likewise, as the second part of the Silberman quotation suggests, Jews
may support deviant movements, not because they think it is good for
the country but because it is good for the Jews.

Prof. Silberman also provides an illuminating quote from a Jewish
economist who thought that republicans had more sensible economic
policies but who voted for the Democratic presidential candidate
anyway. His reason? "I'd rather live in a country governed by the
faces
I saw at the Democratic convention than those I saw at the Republican
convention." This man apparently distrusts white gentiles and voted
for
a racially mixed party even if its economic policies were wrong. What
is good for Jews appears to come before what is good for the country.

Earl Raab, former president of heavily Jewish Brandeis University
makes
the diversity argument in a slightly different way. Expressing his
satisfaction with the prediction that by the middle of the next
century
whites will become a minority, he writes, "We have tipped beyond the
point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this
country." He is apparently prepared to displace the people and culture
of the founding stock in order to prevent the theoretical rise of an
anti-Jewish regime. Prof. Raab appears to see whites mainly as
potential Nazis, and is willing to sacrifice their culture and
national
continuity in order to defuse an imagined threat to Jews. This passage
takes for granted the continued future existence of Jews as a distinct
community even as gentile whites decline in numbers and influence.

In the same passage, Prof. Raab continues by noting that, "[w]e [Jews]
have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigotry for
about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the
heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it
irreversible..." -- just as it tends to make the ultimate displacement
of European culture also irreversible.

Prof. MacDonald traces the development of this diversity strategy to
several sources. It is widely recognized that the German-Jewish
immigrant Franz Boas (1858-1942) almost single-handedly established
the
current contours of anthropology, ridding it of all biological
explanations for differences in human culture or behavior. Prof.
MacDonald reports that he and his followers -- with the notable
exceptions of Margaret Mead and Ruth Benedict -- were all Jews with
strong Jewish identities: "Jewish identification and the pursuit of
perceived Jewish interests, particularly in advocating an ideology of
cultural pluralism as a model for Western societies, has been the
'invisible subject' of American anthropology."

By 1915, Boas and his students controlled the American Anthropological
Association and by 1926 they headed every major American university
anthropology department. From this position of dominance they promoted
the idea that race and biology are trivial matters, and that
environment counts for everything. They completely recast anthropology
so as to provide intellectual support for open immigration,
integration, and miscegenation. They also laid the foundation for the
idea that because all races have the same potential, the failures of
non-whites must be blamed exclusively on white oppression. The
ultimate
conclusion of Boasian anthropology was that since environment accounts
for all human differences, every inequality in achievement can be
eliminated by changing the environment. This has been the
justification
for enormous and wasteful government intervention programs.

The entire "civil rights" movement can be seen as a natural
consequence
of the triumph of Boasian thinking. Since all races were equivalent,
separation was immoral. The color line also sharpened white
self-consciousness in ways that might make whites more aware of Jewish
parochialism. Thus it was, according to Prof. MacDonald, that Jews
almost single-handedly launched the desegregation movement. Without
the
leadership of Jews, the NAACP might never have been established, and
until 1975 every one of its presidents was a Jew. Prof. MacDonald
reports that in 1917, when the black separatist Marcus Garvey visited
NAACP headquarters, he saw so many white faces that he stormed out,
complaining that it was a white organization.

Prof. MacDonald concludes that the efforts of Jews were crucial to the
"civil rights" transformation of America. He quotes a lawyer for the
American Jewish Congress who claims that "many of these [civil rights]
laws were actually written in the offices of Jewish agencies by Jewish
staff people, introduced by Jewish legislators and pressured into
being
by Jewish voters."

While the Boas school was promoting integration and racial
equivalence,
it was also critical of, in Prof. MacDonald's words, "American culture
as overly homogeneous, hypocritical, emotionally and aesthetically
repressive (especially with regard to sexuality). Central to this
program was creating ethnographies of idyllic [Third-World] cultures
that were free of the negatively perceived traits that were attributed
to Western culture."

The Role of the anthropologist became one of criticizing everything
about Western society while glorifying everything primitive. Prof.
MacDonald notes that Boasian portrayals of non-Western peoples
deliberately ignored barbarism and cruelty or simply attributed it to
contamination from the West. He sees this as a deliberate attempt to
undermine the confidence of Western societies and to make them
permeable to Third World influences and people. Today, this view is
enshrined in the dogma that America must remain open to immigration
because immigrants bring spirit and energy that natives somehow lack.

Authoritarian Personalities
In order to open European-derived societies to the immigration that
would transform them, it was necessary to discredit racial solidarity
and commitment to tradition. Prof. MacDonald argues that this was the
basic purpose of a group of intellectuals known as the Frankfurt
School. What is properly known as the Institute of Social Research was
founded in Frankfurt, Germany, during the Weimar period by a Jewish
millionaire but was closed down by the Nazis shortly after they took
power. Most of its staff emigrated to the United States and the
institute reconstituted itself at UC Berkeley. The organization was
headed by Max Horkheimer, and its most influential members were T.W.
Adorno, Erich Fromm, and Herbert Marcuse, all of whom had strong
Jewish
identities. Horkheimer made no secret of the partisan nature of the
institute's activities: "Research would be able here to transform
itself directly into propaganda," he wrote. (Italics in the original)

Prof. MacDonald devotes many pages to an analysis of The Authoritarian
Personality, which was written by Adorno and appeared in 1950. It was
part of a series called Studies in Prejudice, produced by the
Frankfurt
school, which included titles like Anti-Semitism and Emotional
Disorder. The Authoritarian Personality, which was particularly
influential because, according to Prof. MacDonald, the American Jewish
Committee heavily funded its promotion and because Jewish academics
took up its message so enthusiastically.

The book's purpose is to make every group affiliation sound as if it
were a sign of mental disorder. Everything from patriotism to religion
to family -- and race -- loyalty are sign of a dangerous and defective
"authoritarian personality." Because drawing distinctions between
different groups is illegitimate, all group loyalties -- even close
family ties! -- are "prejudice." As Christopher Lasch has written, the
book leads to the conclusion that prejudice "could be eradicated only
by subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective
psychotherapy -- by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum."

But according to Prof. MacDonald it is precisely the kind of group
loyalty, respect for tradition, and consciousness of differences
central to Jewish identity that Horkheimer and Adorno described as
mental illness in gentiles. These writers adopted what eventually
became a favorite Soviet tactic against dissidents: Anyone whose
political views were different from theirs was insane. As Prof.
MacDonald explains, the Frankfurt school never criticized or even
described Jewish group identity -- only that of gentiles: "behavior
that is critical to Judaism as a successful group evolutionary
strategy
is conceptualized as pathological in gentiles."

For these Jewish intellectuals, anti-Semitism was also a sign of
mental
illness: They concluded that Christian self-denial and especially
sexual repression caused hatred of Jews. The Frankfurt school was
enthusiastic about psycho-analysis, according to which "Oedipal
ambivalence toward the father and anal-sadistic relations in early
childhood are the anti-Semite's irrevocable inheritance."

In addition to ridiculing patriotism and racial identity, the
Frankfurt
school glorified promiscuity and Bohemian poverty. Prof. MacDonald
sees
the school as a seminal influence: "Certainly many of the central
attitudes of the largely successful 1960s countercultural revolution
find expression in The Authoritarian Personality, including idealizing
rebellion against parents, low-investment sexual relationships, and
scorn for upward social mobility, social status, family pride, the
Christian religion, and patriotism."

Of the interest here, however, is the movement's success in branding
ancient loyalties to nation and race as mental illnesses. Although he
came later, the French-Jewish "deconstructionist" Jacques Derrida was
in the same tradition when he wrote:

"The idea behind deconstruction is to deconstruct the workings of
strong nation-states with powerful immigration policies, to
deconstruct
the rhetoric of nationalism, the politics of place, the metaphysics of
native land and native tongue... The idea is to disarm the bombs... of
identity that nation-states build to defend themselves against the
stranger, against Jews and Arabs and immigrants... "

As Prof. MacDonald puts it, "Viewed at its most abstract level, a
fundamental agenda is thus to influence the European-derived peoples
of
the United States to view concern about their own demographic and
cultural eclipse as irrational and as an indication of
psychopathology." Needless to say, this project has been successful;
anyone opposed to the displacement of whites is routinely treated as a
mentally unhinged "hate-monger," and whenever whites defend their
group
interests they are described as psychologically inadequate. The irony
has not escaped Prof. MacDonald: "The ideology that ethnocentrism was
a
form of psychopathology was promulgated by a group that over its long
history had arguably been the most ethnocentric group among all the
cultures of the world."

Immigration
Prof. MacDonald argues that it is entirely natural for Jews to promote
open immigration. It brings about the "diversity" Jews find comforting
and it keeps America open to persecuted co-religionists throughout the
world. He says Jews are the only group that has always fought for mass
immigration; a few European ethnic organizations have made sporadic
efforts to make it easier for their own people to come, but only Jews
have consistently promoted open borders for all comers. Moreover,
whatever disagreements they may have had on other issues, Jews of
every
political persuasion have favored high immigration.

This, too, goes back many years, and Prof. MacDonald traces in
considerable detail the sustained Jewish pro-immigration effort.
Israel
Zangwill, author of the eponymous 1908 play The Melting Pot, was of
the
view that "there is only one way to World Peace, and that is the
absolute abolition of passports, visas, frontiers, custom houses... "
He was nevertheless an ardent Zionist and disapproved of Jewish
intermarriage.

Although the statue of liberty, properly known as Liberty Enlightening
the World, was a gift to the United States from France as a tribute to
American political traditions, the sonnet by the Jewish Emma Lazarus
helped change it into a symbol of immigration. Affixed to the base of
the statue several decades after its construction, the poem welcomes
to
America "huddled masses yearning to breath free/The wretched refuse of
your teeming shore."

Prof. MacDonald has discovered that implausible arguments about
diversity being a quintessentially American strength have been made by
Jews for a long time. He reports that in 1948 the American Jewish
Committee was urging Congress to believe that "Americanism is the
spirit behind the welcome that America has traditionally extended to
people of all races, all religions, all nationalities." Of course,
there had never been such a tradition. In 1952, the American Jewish
Congress argued in hearings on immigration that "our national
experience has confirmed beyond a doubt that our very strength lies in
the diversity of our peoples." This, too, was at a time when U.S.
immigration law was still explicitly designed to maintain a white
majority.

It is often said that when the old immigration policy was scrapped in
1965, scarcely anyone knew, and no one predicted, that the new law
would change the racial makeup of the country. Prof. MacDonald
disputes
this, arguing that this had been the objective of Jewish groups from
the beginning.

Prof. MacDonald finds that Jews have been the foremost advocates of
immigration in England, France, and Canada, and that Jewish groups
were
the most vocal opponents of independence for Quebec. Australian Jews
led the effort to dismantle the "white Australia" policy, one reason
for which was cited in an editorial in the Australian Jewish Democrat:
"The strengthening of multi-cultural or diverse Australia is also our
most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day
Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more
confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian." Like Earl
Raab
writing about the United States, this Australian Jew is prepared to
sacrifice the traditional culture, people, and identity of Australia
to
specifically Jewish interests. It would not be surprising if such an
openly expressed objective did not have the opposite effect from the
intended, and increase anti-Jewish sentiment.

Jews and the Left
It is well known that Jews have been traditionally associated with the
left, and Prof. MacDonald investigates this connection in some detail.
Historically it was understandable that Jews should support movements
that advocated overthrowing the existing order. After emancipation,
Jews met resistance from gentile elites who did not want to lose
ground
to competitors, and outsiders easily become revolutionaries. However,
in Prof. MacDonald's view, Jewish commitment to leftist causes has
often been motivated by the hope that communism, especially, would be
a
tool for combating anti-Semitism, and by expectation that universalist
social solutions would be yet another way to dissolve gentile
loyalties
that might exclude Jews. The appeal of univeralist ideologies is tied
to the implicit understanding that Jewish particularism will be
exempt:
"At the extreme, acceptance of a universalist ideology by gentiles
would result in gentiles not perceiving Jews as in a different social
category at all, while nonetheless Jews would be able to maintain a
strong personal identity as Jews."

Prof. MacDonald argues that Jews had specifically Jewish reasons for
supporting the Bolshevik revolution. Czarist Russia was notorious for
its anti-Semitic policies and, during its early years, the Soviet
Union
seemed to be the promised land for Jews: it ended state anti-Semitism,
tried to eradicate Christianity, opened opportunities to individual
Jews, and preached a "classless" society in which Jewishness would
presumably attract no negative attention. Moreover, since Marxism
taught that all conflict was economic rather than ethnic, many Jews
believed it heralded the end of anti-Semitism.

Prof. MacDonald emphasizes that although Jewish Communists preached
both atheism and the solidarity of the world's working people, they
took pains to preserve a distinct, secular Jewish identity. He reports
that Lenin himself (who had one Jewish grandparent) approved the
continuation of an explicitly Jewish identity under Communism, and in
1946 the Communist Party of the United States voted a resolution also
supporting Jewish peoplehood in Communist countries. Thus, although
Communism was supposed to be without borders or religion, Jews were
confident that it would make a place for their own group identity. He
writes that despite the official view that all men were to be
brothers,
"very few Jews lost their Jewish identity during the entire soviet
era."

Jewish Communists sometimes betrayed remarkable particularism. Prof.
MacDonald quotes Charles Pappoport, the French Communist leader: "The
Jewish people [are] the bearer of all the great ideas of unity and
human community in history... The disappearance of the Jewish people
would signify the death of humankind, the final transformation of man
into a wild beast." This seems to attribute to Jews an elite position
incompatible with "unity and human community."

Prof. MacDonald argues that many Jews began to fall away from
Communism
only after Stalin showed himself to be anti-Semitic. And just as Jews
had been the leading revolutionaries in anti-Semitic pre-Revolutionary
Russia, Jews became the leading dissidents in an anti-Semitic Soviet
Union. A similar pattern can be found in the imposed Communist
governments of Eastern Europe, which were largely dominated by Jews.
The majority of the leaders of the Polish Communist Party, for
example,
spoke better Yiddish than Polish, and they too maintained a strong
Jewish identity. After the fall of Communism many stopped being Polish
and emigrated to Israel.

Prof. MacDonald writes that in Bela Kun's short-lived 1919 Communist
government of Hungary, 95 percent of the leaders were Jews, and that
at
the time of the 1956 uprising Communism was so closely associated with
Jews that the rioting had almost the flavor of a pogrom. He argues
that
in the United States as well, the hard core among Communists and
members of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) was mainly Jewish.
Here, too, a revolutionary, atheist, and universalist world-view was
fully compatible with strong identification as Jews. Prof. MacDonald
quotes from a study of American leftists:

"Many Communists, for example, state that they could never have
married
a spouse who was not a leftist. When Jews were asked if they could
have
married Gentiles, many hesitated, surprised by the question, and found
it difficult to answer. Upon reflection, many concluded that they had
always taken marriage to someone Jewish for granted." Their commitment
as Jews was even more fundamental and unexamined than their commitment
to the left.

Prof. MacDonald reports that many American Jews also abandoned
Communism as it became increasingly anti-Semitic. For a large number,
the Soviet Union's severing of diplomatic ties with Israel during the
1967 war was the last straw. A former SDS activist no doubt spoke for
many when he explained, "If I must choose between the Jewish cause and
a 'progressive' anti-Israel SDS, I shall choose the Jewish cause. If
barricades are erected, I will fight as a Jew." According to Prof.
MacDonald, American neoconservatism can also be described as a surface
shift in external politics that leaves the more fundamental commitment
to Jewish identity unchanged. Thus, former leftists abandoned an
ideology that had turned against Israel and refashioned American
conservatism into a different movement, the one unshakable theme of
which was support for Israel. Neoconservatives also support high
levels
of immigration and were active in excluding white racial
identification
from the "respectable" right.

Objections
There are many possible objections to Prof. MacDonald's thesis. The
first is that it is largely built on the assumption that Jews are
dishonest. It is always risky to assume one understands the motives of
others better than they do themselves. Jews have traditionally thought
of themselves as a benevolent presence, even as a "light unto the
nations" or a "chosen people." This is echoed today in the Jewish self
image as champions of the excluded and the oppressed. Most of the time
what passes for "social justice" has the effect of undermining the
traditions and loyalties of gentile society, but are Jews deliberately
undermining these things rather than righting what they perceive to be
wrongs?

Prof. MacDonald concedes that many Jews are sincere in their support
for liberal causes, but then escalates his indictment by arguing that
"the best deceivers are those who deceive themselves." In other words,
many Jews who are actually working for Jewish interests have first
convinced themselves otherwise. A Jew who mainly wants America to
become less white may also have convinced himself that America
benefits
from a multitude of cultures. Having convinced himself he can more
effectively convince others.

Many Jews, Prof. MacDonald argues, are not even conscious of the
extent
to which their Jewishness is central to their identities or their
political views. He quotes Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel on his
surprise
at how passionately he embraced the Israeli side during the 1967 war:
"I had not known how Jewish I was." This is an arresting statement
from
a man who was thought to be perhaps the greatest Jewish spiritual
leader of his time. And whether or not it affects their politics, Jews
certainly appear to have a very vivid sense of peoplehood. Prof.
MacDonald quotes theologian Eugene Borowitz as saying,"most Jews claim
to be equipped with an interpersonal friend-or-foe sensing device that
enables them to detect the presence of another Jew, despite heavy
camouflage." Always to think in terms of "friends or foe" is no
insignificant matter.

Prof. MacDonald is therefore skeptical of Jewish disavowals: "Surface
declarations of a lack of Jewish identity may be highly misleading."
He
notes that Jewish publications write about the power and influence of
American Jews in language Jews would immediately denounce as
"anti-Semitic" if used by gentiles. He agrees with Joseph Sobran, who
has said "they want to be Jews among themselves but resent being seen
as Jews by Gentiles. They want to pursue their own distinct interests
while pretending that they have no such interests ... "

Prof. MacDonald argues that the success of Jewish-led intellectual
movements has been possible only because their Jewish character was
hidden. If multi-culturalism or mass immigration or The Authoritarian
Personality had been promoted by Orthodox Jews in black coats the
Jewish element would have been clear. Prof. MacDonald writes that in
fact, "the Jewish political agenda was not an aspect of the theory and
the theories themselves had no overt Jewish content. Gentile
intellectuals approaching these theories were therefore unlikely to
view them as aspects of Jewish-gentile cultural competition or as an
aspect of a specifically Jewish political agenda." Prof. MacDonald
also
claims that Jews have often tried to conceal the Jewish character of
an
intellectual movement by recruiting token gentiles for visible
positions as spokesmen. He writes that this tactic was so common in
the
American Communist Party that gentiles often saw through it and
resigned.

But how can motives ever be completely known? Prof. MacDonald sets a
difficult test: "The best evidence that individuals have really ceased
to have a Jewish identity is if they choose a political option that
they perceive as clearly not in the interest of Jews as a group. In
the
absence of a clearly perceived conflict with Jewish interests, it
remains possible that different political choices among ethnic Jews
are
only differences in tactics for how best to achieve Jewish interests."

This standard may seem unduly harsh -- until it is applied to white
gentiles. Third-World immigration, affirmative action,
anti-discrimination laws, and forced integration are clearly not in
the
interests of whites, yet many whites embrace them, thus demonstrating
how completely they have abandoned their racial identity.

Finally, Prof. MacDonald raises the disturbing possibility that some
Jews, because of centuries of conflict with gentiles, actively hate
gentile society and consciously wish to destroy it: "a fundamental
motivation of Jewish intellectuals involved in social criticism has
simply been hatred of the gentile-dominated power structure perceived
as anti-Semitic." He describes the 19th century German-Jewish poet
Heinrich Heine as "using his skill, reputation and popularity to
undermine the intellectual confidence of the established order."

In defense of this highly provocative view, Prof. MacDonald quotes
Benjamin Disraeli on the effects of centuries of Jewish-gentile
relations on Jews: "They may have become so odious and so hostile to
mankind as to merit for their present conduct, no matter how
occasioned, the obloquy and ill-treatment of the communities in which
they dwell and with which they are scarcely permitted to mingle."

Apart from any questions of motives, however, is the question of
numbers. Jews are a tiny minority in the United States and within that
minority there is disagreement even on matters that clearly affect
Jews. How can Jews possibly be responsible for dramatic changes in the
intellectual landscape? In Prof. MacDonald's view, the explanation
lies
in the intelligence, energy, dedication, and cohesiveness of Jews. He
attributes a great deal to the average IQ of Jews -- at 115, a full
standard deviation above the white gentile average -- and to "their
hard work and dedication, their desire to make a mark on the world,
and
their desire to rise in the world, engage in personal promotion, and
achieve public acclaim... " He also believes Jews have worked together
unfailingly on any question they consider necessary for survival:
"Intellectual activity is like any other human endeavor: Cohesive
groups outcompete individual strategies." He notes that there has
never
been a time when large numbers of white Americans favored non-white
immigration; it was a cohesive, determined minority that beat down the
disorganized resistance of the majority.

Prof. MacDonald believes that because of the effectiveness of some
Jews, it was not even necessary that most Jews actively support
anti-majoritarian movements, but that Jewish activity was still
decisive. As he puts it, "Jewish-dominated intellectual movements were
a critical factor (necessary condition) for the triumph of the
intellectual left in late twentieth-century Western societies." This,
of course, can never be tested, but there can be no doubt that
American
Jews have had a disproportionate effect on the American intellect.
Prof. MacDonald quotes Walter Kerr, writing in 1968, to the effect
that
"what has happened since World War II is that the American sensibility
has become part Jewish, perhaps as much Jewish as it is anything
else... The literate American mind has come in some measure to think
Jewishly."

Aside from the question of whether Prof. MacDonald is right is the
further question of what difference it makes if he is right. If
correct, his thesis certainly sheds light on the rapidity with which
whites lost their will. Just a few decades ago whites were a confident
race, proud of their achievements, convinced of their fitness to
dominate the globe. Today they are a declining, apologetic people,
ashamed of their history and not sure even of their claim to lands
they
have occupied for centuries. It is very rare for fundamental concepts
to be stood on their heads in the course of just a generation or two,
as has happened with thinking about race. Such speed suggests there
has
been something more than natural change.

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:03:24 -0700, Viejo Vizcacha
<nats_u...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>There is NO comparison between the USA concentration camps for
>Japanese-Americans (something that should shame Americans until

Only because America was not being bombed, nor did it lose the war.


>today), and the ones in German dominated Europe for Jews, Communists,
>Socialists, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and other "undesirables." That is
>why I refuse to call them "concentration" camps and use the more
>accurate "extermination camps", since I believe that this more
>precisely reflects what was going on there.


by Theodore J. O'Keefe

Nothing has been more effective in establishing the authenticity of
the Holocaust story in the minds of Americans than the terrible scenes
US troops discovered when they entered German concentration camps at
the close of World War II.

At Dachau, Buchenwald, Dora, Mauthausen, and other work and detention
camps, horrified US infantrymen encountered heaps of dead and dying
inmates, emaciated and diseased. Survivors told them hair-raising
stories of torture and slaughter, and backed up their claims by
showing the GIs crematory ovens, alleged execution gas chambers,
supposed implements of torture, and even shrunken heads and
lampshades, gloves, and handbags purportedly made from skin flayed
from dead inmates.

US government authorities, mindful that many Americans who remembered
the atrocity stories fed them during World War I still doubted the
Allied propaganda directed against the Hitler regime, resolved to
"document" what the GIs had found in the camps. Prominent newsmen
and politicians were flown in to see the harrowing evidence, while
the US Army Signal Corps filmed and photographed the scenes for
posterity. Famous journalist Edward R. Murrow reported, in tones of
horror, but no longer of disbelief, what he had been told and shown,
and Dachau and
Buchenwald were branded on the hearts and minds of the American
populace as names of infamy unmatched in the sad and bloody history
of this planet.

For Americans, what was "discovered" at the camps -- the dead and the
diseased, the terrible stories of the inmates, all the props of
torture and terror -- became the basis not simply of a transitory
propaganda campaign but of the conviction that, yes, it was true: the
Germans did exterminate six million Jews, most of them in lethal gas
chambers.

What the GIs found was used, by way of films that were mandatory
viewing for the vanquished populace of Germany, to "re-educate" the
German people by destroying their national pride and their will to a
united, independent national state, imposing in their place
overwhelming feelings of collective guilt and political impotence.
And when the testimony, and the verdict, of the Nuremberg Tribunal
incorporated most, if not all, of the horror stories Americans were
told about
Dachau, Buchenwald, and other places captured by the US Army, the
Holocaust could pass for one of the most documented, one of the most
authenticated, one of the most proven historical episodes in the
human record.

A Different Reality

But it is known today that, very soon after the liberation of the
camps, American authorities were aware that the real story of the
camps was quite different from the one in which they were coaching
military public information officers, government spokesmen,
politicians, journalists, and other mouthpieces.

When American and British forces overran western and central Germany
in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with
discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes.

Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic
pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army's Judge Advocate
General's Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team,
Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German
camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim
work at Dachau, he was
questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors.

Dr. Larson's findings? In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: "What
we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that
is a hoax." And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his
biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist
on duty in the entire European Theater" of Allied military operations,
confirmed that "never was a case of poison gas uncovered."

Typhus, Not Poison Gas

If not by gassing, how did the unfortunate victims at Dachau,
Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen perish? Were they tortured to death or
deliberately starved? The answers to these questions are known as
well.

As Dr. Larson and other Allied medical men discovered, the chief
cause of death at Dachau, Belsen and the other camps was disease,
above all typhus, an old and terrible scourge of mankind that until
recently flourished in places where populations were crowded together
in circumstances where public health measures were unknown or had
broken down. Such was the case in the overcrowded internment camps in
Germany at war's end, where, despite such measures as systematic
delousing, quarantine of the sick and cremation of the dead, the
virtual
collapse of Germany's food, transport, and public health systems led
to catastrophe.

Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and
mortality in the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D.,
Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the
Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in
Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that "The outbreaks in
concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus
infection encountered in Germany." Dr. Gordon summarized the causes
for the outbreaks as follows:

Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an
astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that,
homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them ...Germany was in
chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by advancing
armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the
spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were
seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor,
housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere
lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring
such as few countries and few times have experienced.

Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a
psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with
British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who
volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn
oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that "Thousands of prisoners who
died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II
weren't deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of
diseases."

Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited
stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue
after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously
maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed
each day.

Despite noisily publicized claims and widespread popular notions to
the contrary, no researcher has been able to document a German policy
of extermination through starvation in the German camps.

No 'Human Skin' Lampshades

What of the ghoulish stories of concentration camp inmates skinned for
their tattoos, flayed to make lampshades and handbags, or other
artifacts? What of the innumerable "torture racks," "meathooks,"
whipping posts, gallows, and other tools of torment and death that are
reported to have abounded at every German camp? These allegations, and
even more grotesque ones proffered by Soviet prosecutors, found their
way into the record at Nuremberg.

The lampshade and tattooed-skin charges were made against Ilse Koch,
dubbed by journalists the "Bitch of Buchenwald," who was reported to
have furnished her house with objects manufactured from the tanned
hides of luckless inmates.

But General Lucius Clay, military governor of the US zone of occupied
Germany, who reviewed her case in 1948, told his superiors in
Washington: "There is no convincing evidence that she [Ilse Koch]
selected inmates for extermination in order to secure tattooed skins
or that she possessed any articles made of human skin." In an
interview General Clay gave years later, he stated about the material
for the infamous lampshades: "Well, it turned out actually that it was
goat flesh. But
at the trial it was still human flesh. It was almost impossible for
her to have gotten a fair trial." Ilse Koch hanged herself in a German
jail in 1967.

It would be tedious to itemize and refute the thousands of bizarre
claims as to Nazi atrocities. That there were instances of German
cruelty, however, is clear from the testimony of Dr. Konrad Morgen, a
legal investigator attached to the Reich Criminal Police, whose
statements on the witness stand at Nuremberg have never been
challenged by proponents of the Jewish Holocaust story. Dr. Morgen
informed the court that he had been given full authority by Heinrich
Himmler,
commander of Hitler's SS and the dread Gestapo, to enter any German
concentration camp and investigate instances of cruelty and corruption
on the part of camp personnel. As he explained in sworn testimony at
Nuremberg, Dr. Morgen investigated 800 such cases, resulting in more
than 200 convictions. Punishments included the death penalty for the
worst offenders, including Hermann Florstedt, commandant of Lublin
(Majdanek), and Karl Koch (Ilse's husband), commandant of Buchenwald.

While German camp commandants in certain cases did inflict physical
punishment, such acts had to be approved by authorities in Berlin, and
it was required that a camp physician first certify the good health of
the prisoner to be disciplined, and then be on hand at the actual
beating. After all, throughout most of the war the camps were
important centers of industrial activity. The good health and morale
of the prisoners was critical to the German war effort, as is
evidenced in a January 1943 order issued by SS General Richard Glücks,
chief of the office that supervised the
concentration camps. It held the camp commanders "personally
responsible for exhausting every possibility to preserve the physical
strength of the detainees." Camp Survivors: Merely Victims?
US Army investigators, working at Buchenwald and other camps, quickly
ascertained what was common knowledge among veteran inmates: that the
worst offenders, the cruelest denizens of the camps, were not the
guards but the prisoners themselves. Common criminals of the same
stripe as those who populate US prisons today committed many
villainies, particularly when they held positions of authority, and
fanatical Communists, highly organized to combat their many
political enemies among the inmates, eliminated their foes with
Stalinist ruthlessness. Two US Army investigators at Buchenwald, Egon
W. Fleck and Edward A. Tenenbaum, carefully investigated circumstances
in the camp before its liberation. In a detailed report submitted to
their superiors, they revealed, in the words of Alfred Toombs, their
commander, who wrote a preface to the report, "how the prisoners
themselves organized a deadly terror within the Nazi terror."

Fleck and Tenenbaum described the power exercised by criminals and
Communists as follows:

The trusties, who in time became almost exclusively Communist
Germans, had the power of life and death over all other inmates. They
could sentence a man or a group to almost certain death ... The
Communist trusties were directly responsible for a large part of the
brutalities at Buchenwald.

Colonel Donald B. Robinson, chief historian of the American military
government in Germany, summarized the Fleck-Tenenbaum report in an
article published in an American magazine shortly after the war.
Colonel Robinson wrote succinctly of the American investigators'
findings: "It appeared that the prisoners who agreed with the
Communists ate; those who didn't starved to death."

Additional corroboration of inmate brutality has been provided by
Ellis E. Spackman, who, as Chief of Counter-Intelligence Arrests and
Detentions for the US Seventh Army, was involved in the liberation of
Dachau. Spackman, later a professor of history at San Bernardino
Valley College in California, wrote in 1966 that at Dachau "the
prisoners were the actual instruments that inflicted the barbarities
on their fellow prisoners."

'Gas Chambers'

In December 1944 US Army officers Colonel Paul Kirk and Lt. Colonel
Edward J. Gully inspected the German concentration camp at
Struthof-Natzweiler in Alsace. They submitted their findings to their
superiors at the headquarters of the US 6th Army Group, which
subsequently forwarded their report to the US War Crimes Division.
While, significantly, the full text of their report has never been
published, it has been revealed, by a historian supportive of
Holocaust claims, that the two investigators were careful to
characterize equipment exhibited to them by French informants as a
"so-called lethal gas chamber," and to claim it was "allegedly used as
a lethal gas chamber." (Emphasis added)

Both the careful phraseology of the Natzweiler report, and its
effective suppression, stand in stark contrast to the credulity, the
confusion, and the blaring publicity that accompanied official reports
of alleged gas chambers at Dachau. At first, a US Army photo depicting
a GI gazing at a steel door marked with a skull and crossbones and the
German words for: "Caution! Gas! Mortal danger! Don't open!," was
identified as showing the murder weapon.

Later, however, it was evidently decided that the apparatus in
question was merely a standard delousing chamber for clothing, and
another alleged gas chamber, this one cunningly disguised as a shower
room, was exhibited to American congressmen and journalists as the
site where thousands breathed their last. While there exist numerous
reports in the press as to the operation of this second "gas chamber,"
no official report by trained Army investigators has yet surfaced to
reconcile such problems as the function of the shower heads: Were they
"dummies," or did lethal cyanide gas stream through them? (Each theory
has appreciable support in journalistic and
historiographical literature.)

As with Dachau, so with Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, and the other camps
liberated by the Allies in western Germany. There was no end of
propaganda about "gas chambers," "gas ovens," and the like, but so far
not a single detailed description of the murder weapon and its
function, not a single report of the kind that is mandatory for the
successful prosecution of any assault or murder case in America at
that time and today, has come to light.

Furthermore, a number of Holocaust authorities have now publicly
decreed that there were no gassings, no extermination camps in Germany
after all. (We are now told that "gassing" and "extermination" camps
were located exclusively in what is now Poland, in areas captured by
the Soviet Red Army and made off-limits to western investigators.)

Dr. Martin Broszat of the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary
History, which is funded by the German government, stated
categorically in a 1960 letter to the German weekly Die Zeit: "Neither
in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other
prisoners gassed." Professional "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal stated
in 1975 and again in 1993 that "there were no
extermination camps on German soil."

Dachau "gas chamber" No. 2, which was once presented to a stunned and
grieving world as a weapon that claimed hundreds of thousands of
lives, is now described in the brochure issued to tourists at the
modern Dachau "memorial site" in these words: "This gas chamber,
camouflaged as a shower room, was not used."

The Propaganda Intensifies

More than 50 years after American troops entered Dachau, Buchenwald
and other German camps, and trained American investigators established
the facts as to what had gone on in them, the government in
Washington, the entertainment media in Hollywood, and the print media
in New York continue to churn out millions of words and images
annually on the horrors of the camps and the infamy of the Holocaust.
Despite the fact that, with the exception of the defeated Confederacy,
no enemy of America has ever so suffered so complete and devastating
defeat as did Germany in 1945, the mass media and the politicians and
bureaucrats behave as if Hitler, his troops, and his concentration
camps continue to exist in an eternal present, and our opinion makers
continue to distort, through ignorance or malice, the facts about the
camps.

Time for the Truth

It is time that the government and the professional historians reveal
the facts about Dachau, Buchenwald and the other camps. It is time
they let the American public know how the inmates died, and how they
didn't die. It is time that the claims of mass murder by gassing are
clarified and investigated in the same manner as any other claims of
murder. It is time that the free ride certain groups have enjoyed as
the result of unchallenged Holocaust claims be terminated, just as it
is time to end the scapegoating of other groups, including Germans,
eastern Europeans, the
Roman Catholic hierarchy, and the wartime leadership of America and
Britain, either for their alleged role in the Holocaust or their
supposed failure to stop it.

Above all, it is time that the citizens of this great Republic have
the facts about the camps, facts they have a right to know, a right
that is fundamental to the exercise of their authority and their will
in the governance of their country. As citizens and as taxpayers,
Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, of all faiths, have a basic right
and an overriding interest in determining the facts of incidents that
are deemed by those in positions of power to be significant in
determining America's foreign and educational policy, as well as its
selection of past events to be memorialized in our
civic life.

Today the alleged facts of the Holocaust are at issue all over the
civilized world. The truth will be decided only by recourse to the
facts, in the public forum: not by concealing the facts, denying the
truth, stonewalling reality. The truth will out, and it is time the
government of this country, and governments and international bodies
throughout the world, make public the evidence of what actually
transpired in the German concentration camps in the years 1933-1945,
so that we may put paid to the lies, without fear or favor, and carry
out the work of reconciliation and renewal that is and must be the
granite foundation of mutual tolerance between peoples and of a peace
based on justice.

Summary
The conclusions of the early US Army investigations as to the truth
about the wartime German concentration camps have since been
corroborated by all subsequent investigators and can be summarized:

1.The harrowing scenes of dead and dying inmates were not the result
of a German policy of "extermination," but rather the result of
epidemics of typhus and other disease brought about largely by the
effects of Allied aerial attacks.
2.Stories of Nazi supercriminals and sadists who turned Jews and
others into handbags and lampshades for their private profit or
amusement were sick lies or diseased fantasies; indeed, the German
authorities punished corruption and cruelty on the part of camp
commanders and guards.
3.On the other hand, portrayals of the newly liberated inmates as
saints and martyrs of Hitlerism were quite often very far from the
truth; indeed, most of the brutalities inflicted on camp detainees
were the work of their fellow prisoners, in contravention of German
policy and German orders.
4.The alleged homicidal showers and gas chambers were used either for
bathing camp inmates or delousing their clothes; the claim that they
were used to murder Jews or other human beings is a contemptible
fabrication. Orthodox historians and professional "Nazi-hunters" have
quietly dropped claims that inmates were gassed at Dachau, Buchenwald
and other camps in Germany. They continue, however, to keep silent
regarding the lies about Dachau and Buchenwald, as well as to evade an
open discussion of the evidence for homicidal gassing at Auschwitz and
the
other camps captured by the Soviets.


Institute For Historical Review
Post Office Box 2739
Newport Beach, California 92659

>
>And there is plenty of testimony and proof about the Nazi
>Extermination Camps.
>

Holocaust heavyweight Rudolf Vrba, under cross-examination in a
Canadian courtroom, states under oath that 150,000 French Jews were
gassed at Auschwitz, in spite of the fact that the entire number of
Jews deported from France were only 75,721. Vrba claims he arrived at
his count "scientifically" by having listened to the language spoken
by the inmates at Auschwitz and examining their luggage (!). The
author of "I Cannot Forgive" next confessed that his book was "an
artistic picture ... not a document for a court," in spite of the fact
that Vrba's testimony was crucial to both the War Refugee Board and
the Auschwitz Trials in West Germany. Vrba further admitted that his
written and pictorial descriptions of Auschwitz crematoria were a
result of guessing, based on "what I heard it might look like." Oops!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth,
he will either quit being mistaken or cease being honest.

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By Faurisson

The Unraveling of the Witnesses at the First Zündel Trial (1985)

The important victory won by revisionism in France on April 26, 1983,
would go on to confirm itself in 1985 with the first Zündel trial in
Toronto. I would like to dwell a moment on this trial in order to
underscore the impact on one's point of view, and especially as far as
the testimonies on the Auschwitz gas chambers are concerned: for the
first time since the war, Jewish witnesses were subjected to a regular
cross-examination. Moreover, without wanting to minimize the
importance of the second Zündel trial (that of 1988), I should like it
to be understood that the 1985 trial already contained the seeds for
all that was attained in the 1988 trial, including the report by
Leuchter and all the scientific reports which, in the aftermath, would
proliferate in the wake of the Leuchter Report.

In 1985, as also afterwards in 1988, I served as advisor to Ernst
Zündel and his lawyer, Douglas Christie. I accepted this heavy
responsibility only under condition that all the Jewish witnesses
would, for the first time, be cross-examined on the material nature of
the reported facts, bluntly and without discretion. I had noted, in
effect, that from 1945 to 1985, Jewish witnesses had been granted
virtual immunity. Never had any defense lawyer thought or dared to ask
them for material explanations about the gas chambers (exact location,
physical appearance, dimensions, internal and external structure), or
about the homicidal gassing (the operational procedure from beginning
to end, the tools employed, the precautions taken by the executioners
before, during and after execution).

On rare occasions, as at the trial of Tesch, Drosihn and
Weinbacher,[5] lawyers formulated some unusual questions of a material
nature, hardly troublesome for the witness, but these always found
themselves on the fringes of the more fundamental questions which
should have been asked. No lawyer ever demanded clarifications on a
weapon which, indeed, he had never seen and that no one had ever shown
him. At the major Nuremberg Trial of 1945-46, the German lawyers had
manifested total discretion on this point. At the proceedings against
Eichmann in Jerusalem in 1961, the lawyer Dr. Robert Servatius had not
wanted to raise the question; in a letter on this subject dated June
21, 1974, he wrote me: "Eichmann hat selbst keine Gaskammer gesehen;
die Frage wurde nicht diskutiert; er hat sich aber auch nicht gegen
deren Existenz gewandt" [Eichmann himself had not seen any gas
chamber; the question was not discussed; but neither did he raise the
issue of their existence].[6]

At the Frankfurt Trial of 1963-65, the lawyers showed themselves to be
particularly timid. I should mention that the atmosphere was rather
inhospitable for the defense and the accused. This show trial will
remain as a blot on the honor of German justice as on the person of
Hans Hofmeyer, initially Landgerichtsdirektor, then Senatspräsident.
During more than 180 sessions, the judges and juries, the public
prosecutors and the private parties, the accused and their attorneys,
as well as the journalists who had come from around the world,
accepted as a complete physical representation of the 'crime weapon' a
mere map of the camp of Auschwitz and a map of the camp of Birkenau,
whereupon five minuscule geometric figures were inscribed for the
location of each of the alleged homicidal gas chambers, with the
words, for Auschwitz: "Altes Krematorium", and for Birkenau:
"Krematorium II", "Krematorium III", "Krematorium IV", and
"Krematorium V"! These maps[7] were displayed in the courtroom.

The Revisionists have often compared the Frankfurt trial with the
1450-1650 trials against witchcraft. Nevertheless, at least during
those trials, someone sometimes bothered to describe or depict the
witches' sabbath. At the Frankfurt trial, even among the lawyers who
made difficulties for a witness like Filip Müller, not one asked of a
Jewish witness or a repentant German defendant to describe for him in
greater detail what he was purported to have seen. Despite two
judicial visits to the scene of the crime at Auschwitz, accompanied by
some German lawyers, it seems not one of the latter insisted on any
technical explanations or criminological expertise regarding the
murder weapon. To the contrary, one of them, Anton Reiners, a
Frankfurt lawyer, pushed complacency to the point of having himself
photographed by the press while raising the chute cover by which the
SS supposedly sprinkled Zyklon B granules into the alleged Auschwitz
gas chamber.

And so at Toronto in 1985, I had fully decided to do away with these
anomalies, to break the taboo and, for starters, pose, or rather have
Douglas Christie pose, questions to the experts and Jewish witnesses
as one normally poses in every trial where one is supposed to
establish whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom, how
and when.

Fortunately for me, Ernst Zündel accepted my conditions and Douglas
Christie consented to adopt this course of action and to pose to the
experts and witnesses the questions that I would prepare for him. I
was convinced that, in this manner, all might change, and the veil
woven by so many false testimonies could be torn away. While I was not
counting on Ernst Zündel's acquittal and we were all resigned to
paying the price for our audacity, I nevertheless had hope that with
the aid of this far-sighted man of character, and thanks to his
intrepid lawyer, history, if not justice, would at last carry him into
historical prominence.

From the moment of the first cross-examination, a tremor of panic
began to creep its way amid the ranks of the prosecution. Every
evening and throughout most of the night, I would prepare the
questions to ask. In the morning, I would turn over these questions,
accompanied by the necessary documents, to lawyer Doug Christie who,
for his part and with the aid of his female collaborator, conducted
the essentially legal aspects of the effort. During the
cross-examinations, I maintained a position close to the lawyer's
podium and unremittingly furnished, on yellow notepads, supplementary
and improvisational questions according to the experts' and witnesses'
responses.

The expert cited by the prosecution was Dr. Raul Hilberg, author of
The Destruction of European Jews. Day after day, he was subjected to
such humiliation that, when solicited in 1988 by a new prosecutor for
a new trial against Ernst Zündel, Prof. Hilberg refused to return to
give witness; he explained the motive for his refusal in a
confidential letter wherein he acknowledged his fear of having to once
again confront the questions of Douglas Christie. From the
cross-examination of Dr. Raul Hilberg, it was definitively brought out
that no one possessed any proof for the existence either of an order,
a plan, an instruction, or a budget for the presumed physical
extermination of the Jews. Furthermore, no one possessed either an
expertise of the murder weapon (whether gas chamber or gas van), or an
autopsy report establishing the murder of a detainee by poison gas.
However, in the absence of evidence regarding the weapon and victim,
did there exist witnesses of the crime?

A testimony must always be verified. The usual first means of
proceeding to this verification is to confront the assertions of the
witness with the results of investigations or expert opinion regarding
the material nature of the crime. In the case at hand, there were
neither investigations, nor expertise relative to the alleged
Auschwitz gas chambers. Here is what made any cross-examination
difficult. Yet, this difficulty should not serve as an excuse, and one
might even say that a cross-examination becomes ever more
indispensable because, without it, there no longer remains any way of
knowing whether the witness is telling the truth or not.

Jewish Witnesses Finally Cross-Examined:
Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba

For those persons interested in the technical and documentary means by
which we were nevertheless in a position to severely cross-examine the
two principal Jewish witnesses, Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba, I
can do no better than to recommend a reading of the trial
transcript.[8] Pages 304-371 cover the questioning and
cross-examination of Arnold Friedman; the latter breaks down on pages
445-446 when he ends by acknowledging that he in fact saw nothing,
that he had spoken from hearsay because, according to him, he had met
persons who were convincing; perhaps, he added, he would have adopted
the position of Mr. Christie rather than that of these other persons
if only Mr. Christie had been able to tell him back then what he was
telling him now!

Dr. Vrba was a witness of exceptional importance. One might even say
about this trial in Toronto that the prosecution had found the means
of recruiting 'Holocaust' expert number one in the person of Dr. Raul
Hilberg, and witness number one in the person of Dr. Rudolf Vrba. The
testimony of this latter gentleman had been one of the principal
sources of the famous War Refugee Board Report on the German
Extermination Camps - Auschwitz and Birkenau, published in November
1944 by the Executive Office of President Roosevelt. Dr. R. Vrba was
also the author of I Cannot Forgive,[9] written in collaboration with
Alan Bestic who, in his preface, declares with regard to him:

"Indeed I would like to pay tribute to him for the immense trouble he
took over every detail; for the meticulous, almost fanatical respect
he revealed for accuracy." (p.2).

,Never perhaps, had a court of justice seen a witness express himself
with more assurance on the Auschwitz gas chambers. Yet, by the end of
the cross-examination, the situation had reversed itself to the point
where Dr. R. Vrba was left with only one explanation for his errors
and his lies: in his book he had, he confessed, resorted to "poetic
license" or, as he was wont to say in Latin, to "licentia poetarum"!

In the end, a bit of drama unfolded: Mr. Griffiths, the prosecutor who
had himself solicited the presence of this witness numero uno and yet
now apparently exasperated by Dr. Vrba's lies, fired off the following
question:

"You told Mr. Christie several times in discussing your book I Cannot
Forgive that you used poetic license in writing that book. Have you
used poetic license in your testimony?" (p. 1636).

The false witness tried to parry the blow but prosecutor Griffiths hit
him with a second question equally treacherous, this time concerning
the number of gassing victims which Vrba had given; the witness
responded with garrulous nonsense; Griffiths was getting ready to ask
him a third and final question when suddenly, the matter was cut short
and one heard the prosecutor say to the judge:

"I have no further questions for Dr. Vrba" (p. 1643).

Crestfallen, the witness left the dock. Dr. Vrba's initial
questioning, cross-examination and final questioning filled 400 pages
of transcripts (pp. 1244-1643). These pages could readily be used in
an encyclopedia of law under a chapter on the detection of false
witnesses.

The Prosecution Gives up on Calling Witnesses

Three years later, in 1988, during the second trial against Ernst
Zündel, the public prosecutor deemed it prudent to abandon any
recourse to witnesses. Canadian justice had apparently understood the
lesson of the first trial: there were no credible witnesses to the
existence and operation of the 'Nazi gas chambers'.

Little by little, every other country in the world has learned this
same lesson. At the trial of Klaus Barbie in France, in 1987, there
was talk about the gas chambers of Auschwitz but no one produced any
witnesses who could properly speak about them.[10] The attorney
Jacques Vergès, courageous yet not foolhardy, preferred to avoid the
subject. This was a stroke of luck for the Jewish lawyers who feared
nothing so much as to see me appearing at the side of Mr. Vergès. If
this gentleman had accepted my offer to counsel him, we in France
might have been able to strike a tremendous blow against the myth of
the gas chambers.

All the while in France, during several revisionist trials, Jewish
witnesses sometimes came to evoke the gas chambers but none of them
testified before the court as to having seen one or having
participated in a homicidal gassing by hauling bodies out of the 'gas
chambers'.

Today, gas chamber witnesses are making themselves extremely scarce
and the Demjanjuk trial in Israel, which once again has revealed how
much false testimony is involved in the matter, has contributed to the
suppression. Several years ago, it happened that I was aggressively
questioned at the rear of a law court by elderly Jews who presented
themselves as "living witnesses to the gas chambers of Auschwitz",
showing me their tattoos. It was necessary for me only to ask them to
look me in the eyes and to describe for me a gas chamber that
inevitably they retorted:

"How could I do this? If I had seen a gas chamber with my own eyes I
would not be here today to speak with you; I myself would have been
gassed also."

This brings us back, as one can see, to Simone Veil and her
declaration of May 7, 1983, about which we already know what we should
think…

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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:01:27 -0700, person <dsew...@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>The Russian government (pre-Communist) was involved in many pograms
>against the jews and after the failed revolution in 1905 - which was
>backed by many jewish intellectuals - the Russian secret police
>fabricated a number of works, including "The Protocols of Zion"


by W. Creutz

On the 16th, 17th and 18th of August 1921 the London "Times" published
a series of articles in which it asserts that the PROTOCOLS are only a
clumsy fraud produced by a conscienceless plagiarist who paraphrased a
book published in Brussels in 1865. That book called "DIALOGUES IN
HELL" is reported to be written by a "Frenchman" named Maurice Joly.
The "Times" published several passages from both books in parallel
columns thus proving beyond any doubt the spiritual kinship between
them. The forgery version seemed to be well established.
The "Times" emphasized carefully its standing in regard to the Jewish
press as being absolutely non-partisan and pretended to have exposed
this "remarkable forgery" for the sake of the truth only, as it was
very important that this "LEGEND" of the "PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED
ELDERS OF ZION" shall disappear as soon as possible and for ever...
According to the "Times" a "correspondent" in Constantinople became
acquainted, by mere luck, with a certain Russian. (Wishing to remain
incognito, he was referred to as "Mr. X,") This mysterious stranger
handed the correspondent of the "Times" the particular booklet by Joly
which made it possible to discover the "forgery."...
Who was this "Frenchman," the author of the "Dialogues in Hell?" This
problem is solved by Gottfried zur Beck in his preface to the German
edition of the "Protocols." In which we find that Maurice Joly,
according to the record, in his infancy was circumcised as Moses
Joel!...
The satanical development of ideas of this book is extracted from a
still older work, thus proving Joly to be a plagiarist himself.
"The Dialogues Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" is the title of
this older book, published by Franz Duncker at Berlin in 1850. The
author of this book was the Jew Jacob Venedey. He was born in 1805 in
Cologne, Germany; expelled from Germany he settled in Paris in 1835...
Prosecuted by the police for his subversive activities, he was
protected and defended (as was the case with Joly) by Cremieux.
Venedey was an intimate friend of Karl Marx (alias Jew Mordechai).
With Marx's assistance he organized in 1847 "The Communist Workers
League. In 1843 he visited England and organized another secret
society having as a purpose the promotion of Israel's world
domination.
Thus it is definitely proved that both books that served as a
foundation for the Protocols, were written by Jews, both of whom were
friend of the founder of the "Alliance Israelite Universelle," ADOLPH
ISRAEL CREMIEUX. Under these circumstances it can not be doubted that
all three books are the product of Jewish thought.
Anyone who will study carefully these books should be very much
surprised to hear the Jews whining about Jews being innocently
persecuted and forced to defend themselves against "Lies &
Defamation." There can be no talk about "forgery" whatsoever, as we
have to do only with slightly different versions of "ideas" coming
from the same powerful political and economical circle of influence.
The secret society that was organized by Karl Marx and Venedey was in
fact only an outgrowth of an older Jewish organization known as "The
Jewish League for Culture and Education," which already existed in
1819. The program for this league was taken over by A. Cremieux and
further developed.
One easily understands the "Aims" of this "league" if he reads
carefully the letter written by the Jew Baruch Levy to Karl Marx. Here
is what he writes:
"The Jewish people taken collectively will be its own Messiah. His
reign over the universe will be obtained by the unification of the
human races and through the elimination of frontiers. A Universal
Republic will come into being in which the Sons of Israel will become
the directing element. We know how to dominate the masses. The
governments of all nations will gradually fall, through victory of the
proletariat, into the hands of Judah. All private property will become
the possession of the Princes OF Israel - they will own the wealth of
all lands. Thus will be realized the promise of the Talmud that when
the time of the Messiah comes the Jews will hold under their keys the
property of all the peoples of the world."
The spiritual relation between this letter and the Protocols is
exactly the same as between an acorn and an oak. This dreadful plan is
transmitted into action in our midst every day.
The "Pan-Europa" a periodical of Count Coudenhove-Calergi proclaimed
that the aristocracy of the future will be Jewish. (In the "New York
Times" of April 14, 1933, Samuel Untermyer made a statement to the
same effect, claiming that the Jew is the aristocrat of the world.
-Editor.) The character and behavior of this new "aristocracy" is
substantially different from the old. The names of Bela Kun (Cohen),
Kurt Eisner as well as the Jew-Soviet "nobility" will be written for
all time in world history in letters of blood.
An interesting article appeared in the newspaper
"Die Front" published in Zurich, Switzerland on January 3, 1934, which
reported that a group of Jews, more powerful and more influential than
the Zionists, has organized a "Cultural Movement" on a world-wide
scale with the purpose of putting every country under Jewish
domination.
Always the same leading idea - not the slightest variation in the
program.
The French magazine "Libre Parole" in its issue of November 1933, page
27, and earlier "La Vielle France" issue of March 10, 192 1, published
a remarkable speech of Rabbi Reichhorn delivered in Prague in 1869
over the tomb of the Grand Rabbi Simeon-ben-Ihuda; he said in part:
"For centuries the Sons of Israel have been despised and persecuted,
but they have fought bravely to prepare the way for victory. Now they
are approaching their aim. They already dominate the economic life of
the damned Christians; their influence is just as great in politics
and in moral fields. At the wished for hour, fixed in advance, we
shall let loose the Revolution, which by ruining all classes of
Christians will definitely enslave Christendom to us. Thus will be
accomplished the promise of God made to his people."
This promise is already accomplished in Russia. What country will be
next to experience the same tragic fate?
A Jewish weekly, Judische Pressezentrale, published in Zurich,
Switzerland, claims in its issue of December 15, 1933, that the
Protocols were fabricated by the Russian secret police in 1905 shortly
after the Japanese war.
It is unwise to defend a cause by simply insisting on something, that
could easily be proved false. How is it possible that a document,
which existed 20 years previously, in three languages, could be
concocted in 19O5 - a document with which several persons were already
familiar?
That Jewish assertion is simply ridiculous. It has been convincingly
proved that the Protocols were written first in Hebrew, then in French
and last in Russian...
It is through persons who lived in Odessa at that time that
information was obtained that a manuscript of the Protocols in the
Jewish language was circulated among the Jews. The Jew BERNSTEIN,
publisher of the "FREE PRESS" of Detroit, Michigan, admitted in the
presence of William Cameron secretary to Henry Ford, that HE HAD
PERSONALLY READ THE "PROTOCOLS" IN THE HEBREW LANGUAGE IN ODESSA...
This information is mostly drawn from L. Fry's work:
"Waters Flowing Eastward." It is corroborated by a statement made by
Philip Stepanov, Chamberlain, Privy Councillor and former Procurator
of the Holy Synod at Moscow; it is witnessed by Prince DIMITRI
GALITZlN...
It has been often asserted that the Protocols, which are a strategic
plan for the conquest of the world and domination by Israel were read
at the First Zionist Congress in 1897 at Basle, Switzerland. The Jews
always deny it most vigorously and use as an argument the fact that
the official record of the Congress makes no mention of it. That sort
of argument has no value at all, when one takes into consideration
that the furious differences between Ginzberg and Herzl were also not
mentioned in the record. The officially published record is incomplete
and does not possess any convincing power in that respect.
Only a few participants at that Congress are still alive; one of them
Marcus Ehrenpriss the chief Rabbi of Stockholm, Sweden, explained in
the "Judisk Tidskrift" no. 6, 1926, that the triumph of Israel was
prophetically foreseen by Hertzl 20 years ahead.
Thirty million Christians were sacrificed in the World War - but
the Jewish aims were achieved. Russia was destroyed
The secret record of the Zionist Congress in Basle was secured by the
Russian government through the efforts of secret service man
Ratchkovsky, who bought it from two Jews Eno Asev and Rabbi From. The
latter sought later security in a monastery in Jugoslavia, where he
died in 1925. When the secret record of the Basle Congress was
examined by the Russian police it was discovered to their great
surprise that the acquired documents were identical with the
Protocols.
Ratchkovsky died suddenly under' "mysterious circumstances," shortly
after making an important report to the Chief of Gendarmes, General
Kourloff. Kourloff was convinced that Ratchkovsky was murdered.
Professor Nilus was subjected to inhuman tortures by the Cheka and
died in 1929.
All these circumstances form a chain of steel links, each of which can
be checked up. The witnesses introduced are not unknown adventurers,
but are educated and trustworthy persons of high social rank.
We really feel obliged to ask the "Judische Pressezentrale" to explain
how was it possible for all those persons to read, translate and
circulate documents ten, fifteen and twenty years before they were
composed? The Jews pretend that the "Protocols" were concocted by two
members of the secret police of Russia. Suppose, but the whole
prophetical program has since turned into reality!!!...

Here is the plan invented by the "Learned Elders of Zion," the master
program laid down in the "Protocols."
"WE SHALL":
1. Seduce and demoralize the youth with false doctrines.
2. Destroy the family life.
3. Dominate humanity by preying upon their lower instincts and
vices.
4. Debase and vulgarize art, and introduce filth in Literature.
5. Destroy respect for religions; undermine the reputation of the
clergy through scandalous stories and back up the so called Higher
Criticism so that the old fundamental faith is shattered and quarrels
and controversies become permanent in the churches.
6. Introduce the habit for luxuries, crazy fashions and
spendthrift ideas so that the ability for enjoying clean and plain
pleasures is lost.
7. Divert the attention of the people by public amusements,
sports, games, prize contests, etc., so that there is no time for
thinking.
8. Confuse and bewilder the minds of the people by false theories
and shatter the nerves and health by continuously introducing new
poisons. (Alcohol, nicotine, drugs, demineralized foods, etc.
-Editor.)
9. Instigate class hatred and class war among the different
classes of people.
10. Dispossess the old aristocracy, which still keeps up high
traditions by excessive taxes and replace it with the "Knights of the
Golden Calf."
11. Poison the relations between the employees and employers
through strikes and lockouts so as to ruin the possibility of
productive co-operation.
12. Demoralize by all means the higher classes of society and by
adverse publicity raise the hate of the people toward them.
13. Use industry to ruin agriculture and then in its turn destroy
industry by wild speculation.
14. Spread all possible utopian theories so as to bring the people
into a labyrinth of impractical ideas.
15. Raise the rate of wages, which however will not bring any
advantage to the workers for at the same time we shall produce a rise
in the price of the first necessities of life.
16. Cause diplomatic friction and misunderstanding between states
which will increase international suspicions and hate thereby greatly
augmenting armaments.
17. Introduce in all states, general suffrage so that the destiny
of nations depend upon ignorant people.
18. Overthrow all monarchies and substitute republics for them; in
so far as possible fill important state offices with persons who are
involved in some unlawful affair and who will, from fear of being
exposed, remain our obedient servants...


Was the "Times" justified or not in saying: "If the "Protocols" were
really written by the Learned Elders of Zion, then everything that was
attempted and done against the Jews, is justified, necessary and
urgent"?

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Today it is taught in the schools that "Anti-Semitism" began in
Germany in the 1930s after which they were deported. What is not
studied is the fact that at one time or other the Jews have been
expelled from every nation in Europe! When the Jews first began to
immigrate to America the early colonialists in New York, Charleston
and Savannah tried to ban their entry. Benjamin Franklin pleaded with
the members of the Continental Congress to enter a specific ban
against Jewish immigration into the U. S. Constitution to bar them for
all time to come.
The Jews claim that they are "only" a religion. The truth is that the
Jews are a RACE. Less than 30% are members of any Synagogue. Whether
they are Orthodox religious, atheists, capitalists or communists -
they still claim to be Jews - members of the Jewish race! Every race
has inherited traits. In the case of the Jews they include trading,
money-changing, usury, and a loathing for "productive labor" which is
scorned as beneath the dignity of the Jews in their "bible" called
"THE TALMUD."
The Jews have not changed since the days when Jesus Christ took up a
whip and drove "the money changers out of the Temple." Jews have
always united to form monopolies. Today they control all the
department store chains and specialty shops along with the lucrative
jewelry and animal fur trade. Jews dominate the fields of all precious
metals such as gold, silver, platinum, tin, lead, etc. They will
always ban together to drive Gentile competitors out of business.
Today America is being flooded with Jewish immigrants from Russia and
even 20,000 per year leave Israel for the U. S. - all with dollar
signs in their eyes. Jews have used their vaunted money-power to seize
control of the Democratic Party and constitute over 50% of all its
financial contributions. Today they are buying up more and more major
U.S. companies. While only 3% of the population, the Jews control over
25% of the nation's wealth and this percentage rises every year. They
are the only racial group totally organized to work for political
domination over America.
Opposition to the Jews did not begin in Germany but dates back before
the birth of Christ over 2,000 years ago! Study the statements made by
"The world's greatest men." They reveal why the "wandering Jews" have
made enemies out of every host country that ever accepted them.
CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman statesman,
writer.
"Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews have
already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other gentleman.
I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills." (Oration
in Defense of Flaccus)

Cicero was serving as defense counsel at the trial of Flaccus, a Roman
official who interfered with Jewish gold shipments to their
international headquarters (then, as now) in Jerusalem. Cicero himself
certainly was not a nobody, and for one of this stature to have to
"speak softly" shows that he was in the presence of a dangerously
powerful sphere of influence. and on another occasion Cicero wrote:
"The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous
this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise
through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers."
SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.
"The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such strength
that they have now been received in all lands. The conquered have
given laws to the conquerors." (De Superstitione)

DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage
Jewish uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as
the turning point downward in the course of that great state-form:
"The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the flesh
of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their entrails, and
daubed themselves with their blood... In all, 220,000 men perished in
Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for this reason no Jew may set foot
in Cyprus today." (Roman History)

DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian. Observed that Jews
treated other people as enemies and inferiors.
"Usury" is the practice of lending money at excessive interest rates.
This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for Gentiles.
It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!

BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who
extolled patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described
himself as a "barking dog" when dealing with Jews:
"Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the poor,
shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to protect
those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor, shall I see them
robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?" (E. Flornoy, Le
Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)

AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his
"On the Governance of the Jews," he wrote:
"The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained from
others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to worked so
that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but
becoming avaricious."

HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9
"There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high finance.
There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the silver trade, and
in the control of various other metals, notably lead, nickel,
quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this tendency to
monopoly is spreading like a disease."

H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937
"The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the
Boers. Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond mines of
South Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild controlled gold;
Samuels controlled silver, Baum controlled other mining, and Moses
controlled base metals. Anything these people touch they inevitably
pollute."

W HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919
"The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is not
a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales that does
not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners of the
antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a wealthy nation,
if the wealth is all in the hands of German Jews?"

POPE CLEMENT VIII
"All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their monopolies
and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of
poverty, especially the farmers, working class people and the very
poor.
Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that they
were enjoying rights in any country since they left Palestine and the
Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical and moral doctrines as
well as their deeds rightly deserve to be exposed to criticism in
whatever country they happen to live."

NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilization,
page
163
"Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has been
known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds. Moreover, he has
persistently shown himself ungrateful... The Jews have always formed a
rebellious element in every state."

FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary's Are These
Things So?, page 278
"The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are dwelling
will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion, a
question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic
disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever."

JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the
truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. - then
answered the Jews - "
(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)
MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William
Hazlet, page 43
"But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious
race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a
prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand
from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against
them."

REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding,
pages 114 - 115
"Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ. When
St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to Christianity, he
hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and Christianity."
Paul said: "You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism - how
furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it; and
how in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own age
among my people, being far more zealous than they for the tradition of
my forefathers." (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth Translation)
While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense
hatred for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition
of the fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism
are filled with hate for Christians.
Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their
Scriptures and because of the great pains which Jews have take to
deceive the Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide
their ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination
UNDER high sounding words that have a "RELIGIOUS" ring in the ears of
Christians. The Jews use such "religious" sounding words as "the
Jewish faith," "the Jewish religion," "Jewish spiritual values,"
"Jewish religious doctrines," and like phrases which deceive and lead
the unlearned into total equanimity.
Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this
world, and the destruction of Christianity.
REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
Cherep-Spiridovich's book The Secret World Government, page 194
"If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land which
befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined, prostituted and
corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the braver screen of other
folks), dares to contrive and scheme the death of every Christian
principle which has protected him."

ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.
"The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians. They
wandered through the country everywhere hating and undermining the
Christian faith."

ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1
"After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in
Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him."

M. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir
"The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
Talmud contains "a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the most
horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian religion
holds most sacred and most dear."
"In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of Hungary
caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of "attack on
public morals" and "pornography." In delivering its verdict, the Court
declared 'INTER ALIA:'
"The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are to
be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to be
found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true meaning."
QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 - 230 A. D.) Latin Church
Father "The Jews formed the breeding ground of all anti-Christian
actions."

REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
February, 1546

"Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do much
harm... You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the name of our
Savior day for day... for that reason you, Milords and men of
authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They are our public
enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, they call our
Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy Son a bastard and to us they
give the epithet of changelings and abortions.
Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but excruciatingly
blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us of our lives, our
health, our honor and belongings."

MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)
"Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished
the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all
deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be
removed and excluded from here as much as possible."


(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that "The Talmud is the real
"bible" of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This
volume has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred
for Christ and all Christians. Read "THE TALMUD UNMASKED" for the full
shocking details.)
DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE,
the bible of the pre-revolutionary French "enlightenment," has often
been complained of by Jewish writers as 'anti-Semitic.' Some of
Diderot's other writings are likewise unfriendly:
"And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves worthy
of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear ... Go, take back your books
and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
[The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice ... to
kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most horrible
imprecations against them. (JUIFS)

NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370
"The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
Judaism... The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud
rather than on the Bible."

F TROCASE, in Jewish Austria
"No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the world,
throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The Talmud has
given them a powerful organization which modern progress has been
unable to change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of everything that is not
Jewish stimulates them in war which they wage against Christian
Society, which is too divided to be able to fight with the necessary
energy."

COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general
"The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade those
of their host country.
The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not binding.
During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they were paid by
both sides, they betrayed both sides."

MOHAMMED, in the Koran
"Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of them,
God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have wandered from
divine religion. You must not relent in your work which must show up
Jewish deceit."

BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The
New
Atlantis, he remarked that Jews
"hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor against
the people among whom they live."
He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as "Judaizers" who would
wear "tawny bonnets" like Jews.
LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.
"They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only perverted
and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end and without
ceasing with their interpretations. And all of the anxious sighing,
longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time when some
day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt with the
heathen in Persia at the time of Esther... On how they love the book
of Esther, which so nicely agrees with their bloodthirsty, revengeful
and murderous desire and hope. (1)
The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people
as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and
think they must murder and crush the heathen. And the foremost
undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is that he should slay
and murder the whole world with the sword. As they at first
demonstrated against us Christians and would like to do now, if they
only could; have also tried it often and have been repeatedly struck
on their snouts...
Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since no
people under the sun always have been, still are, and always will
remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their cursed
usury. They also find comfort with this: "When the Messiah comes, He
shall take all the gold and silver in the world and distribute it
among the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct Scripture to their
insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you have
no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than a real
Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some among them
who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But all of them are
surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In history, therefore,
they are often accused of poisoning wells, stealing children and
mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and the like. Of course they
deny this. Be it so or not, however, I know full well that the ready
will is not lacking with them if they could only transform it into
deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are so at
enmity with the Christians above all others; for which they have no
reason, since we only do good to them.
They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land and
highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by, snore and
have their maws open, let the Jews take from their purse and chest,
steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they permit themselves and
their subjects to be abused and sucked dry and reduced to beggars with
their own money, through the usury of the Jews. For the Jews, as
foreigners, certainly should have nothing from us; and what they have
certainly must be ours. They do not work, do not earn anything from
us, neither do we donate or give it to them. Yet they have our money
and goods and are lords in our land where they are supposed to be in
exile!
If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on the
highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons of gold
through his usury is dearer than God himself!
Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if a
Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel?
It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to
steal and rob (as they do with their money lending) from a heathen, is
a divine service... And they are the masters of the world and we are
their servants - yea, their cattle!
I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to be
found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and more than
ever could come into the hearts of the Jews...
Should someone think I am saying too much - I am saying much too
little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and wish
as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our money
through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all manner of
mean tricks... No heathen has done such things and none would to so
except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses - as he possesses
the Jews.
Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the grace of
God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much moved that in
their schools they so horribly curse us Christians (as Lyra also
writes) and from that draws the conclusion that they must not be the
people of God.
Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain about
being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than 1,400 years
ago during that time we Christians have been tortured and persecuted
by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we do not know to this
day what Devil brought them into our country. We did not fetch them
from Jerusalem!... Yes, we have and hold them captive, as I would like
to keep my rheumatism, and all other diseases and misfortunes, who
must wait as a poor servant, with money and property and everything I
have! I wish they were in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever
they would like to have with them.
Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
people?... Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of what
they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but expelled
them from their country;. For as heard before, God's wrath is so great
over them that through soft mercy they only become more wicked,
through hard treatment, however, only a little better. Therefore, away
with them!
How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be
slandered and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made rich
and our lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by their
audacity!
What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels, and
cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning at her
little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From THE JEWS AND
THEIR LIES)
Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am too
rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews, believing that
I ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm. By my word, I am far
too weak to be able to ridicule such a satanic brood. I would fain to
do so, but they are far greater adepts at mockery than I and possess a
god who is master in this art. It is the Evil One himself.
Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the Jews
as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the depraved and
malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have then been
dispersed in all countries, similarly to the Tartars, Gypsies and such
folk."

WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton &
Co.
"They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's
armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and
the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that
each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and
the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."


This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND
THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional
Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The
menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have
lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at
and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation
is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state
within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country
to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in
that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple,
they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because
they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot
live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other
people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in
such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and
change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our
blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants
will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they
will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you,
gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will
curse you in your graves.
Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor
how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be
otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not
even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change
its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if
permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional
Convention.

STYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.
"The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here, but
learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful trading
with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior magistrates,
as also to the people having the most affection for you; the Deaconry
also fearing that owing to their present indigence they might become a
charge in the coming winter, we have, for the benefit of this weak
newly developing place and land in general, deemed it useful to
require them in a friendly way to depart; praying also most seriously
in this connection, for ourselves also for the general community of
your worships, that the deceitful race - such hateful enemies and
blasphemers of the name of Christ - not be allowed further to infect
and trouble this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber of the
Dutch West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22, 1654.)
The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews
in Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding
the expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see
ULYSSES GRANT). Among the reasons given by "their worships" for
over-ruling their governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view
of the usual Jewish contention that their people were 'poor and
persecuted:' "and also because of the large amount of capital which
they have invested in shares of this Company." (Harry Golden and
Martin Rywell, THE JEWS IN AMERICAN HISTORY)
THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees
ordered that three Jews who had been sending coreligionists into the
colony without authorization "use their endeavors that the said Jews
may be removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only
satisfaction that they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity
offered to Gentlemen acting under His Majesty's Charter." (C. Jones,
HISTORY OF SAVANNAH)
JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.
"Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign to the
land they live in. " (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
"Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if ever he
had a chosen people. " (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)

BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.
"There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must
face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was
here forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and you were
then free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat - that is their
reward. " (New York speech, October 30, 1937)

HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
Jewish immigrants to England because:
"They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the world...
The consequence is that the nations of the world are groaning under
heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They have ever been the
greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the House of Lords, July 12,
1858)

WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO,
March 19. 1925)
"Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the English,
but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the British Empire ever
had to face."

WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism.
This charge is well founded. The Communist philosophy was drawn up by
Karl Marx who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of
anti-Christian thought is outlined in the Jewish "TALMUD" which is the
"bible" of the Jews. Of the four political groups which overthrew the
Christian Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were the
Mensheviks and The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist
Revolutionary Party and the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but
had some Gentile members. Today we now know that Lenin was part Jewish
and all of the leaders of his first government were Jews. They were
Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow. The wealthiest Jewish banker
in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb investment bank
of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20 million to overthrow the
Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according to the "NEW YORK
JOURNAL-AMERICAN" of February 3, 1949.)
CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote
a long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia.
After praising what he called the "national Jews" of Russia, he said:
"In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise the
schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of
Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky
(Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma
Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for
the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on


the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and
impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern

writer, Mrs. Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in


the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at

last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworlds of
the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people


by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed

masters of the enormous empire.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of


Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution

by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is
certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With
the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures
are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes
from the Jewish leaders... In the Soviet institutions the predominance
of Jews is even more astounding. And the prominent if not the
principal part in the system of terrorism applied by the extraordinary
Commissions for combating Counter Revolution has been take by Jews,
and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was
obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun
ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
(especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey
upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all
these countries there are many nonJews every whit as bad as the worst
of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in
proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.
("Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish
People." ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)

BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.
"Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less
intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are
everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians,
correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary
brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank
and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon
the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you
can imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.
Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect, a
people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive
inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem
strange. What could there be in common between communism and high
finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state
centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a
state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish
nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always
find the means for its existence...
In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime, under
which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately connected
with one another, regardless not only of frontiers but of political
differences as well - this Jewish world is today largely at the
disposal of Marx or Rothschild. I am sure that, on the one hand, the
Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand,
women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work
and live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in
the hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for
profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be
attracted by the enormous extension of the international speculations
of the national banks... (Pollmique contras les Jiffs)
This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those
who have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship
with capitalist financiers - overwhelmingly Jewish - since the
revolution. The line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described
"Bolshevik banker" who ferried to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the
revolution by financiers in Europe and America, to Armand Hammer in
the 1970s, who has specialized in multimillion-dollar trade
concessions with the now supposedly 'anti-Semitic' commissars.
WILHELM II. German Kaiser.
"A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a bad
insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do mischief
- even by pogroms, if necessary.
The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany too. I
was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I bitterly regret
the favors I showed the prominent Jewish bankers." (CHICAGO TRIBUNE,
July 2, 1922)

CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B'nai B'rith Messenger,
January 28, 1949

"The troublemakers in Hungary are the Jews... they demoralize our
country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is
torturing Hungary."

ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937
"When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Aza1a and
Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and dozen
other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of other Jews;
in Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power Vadervelde alias
Epstein, and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France, Marxian Socialism
brought forth the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so well his Jewish
instincts in his filthy book Du Mariarge), Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain
and a whole tribe of them; in Italy we had seen the Jews Nathan and
Claudio Treves. Everywhere, Marxism brings Jews on the top - And this
is no hazard."

HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.'s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937
"The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in organization and
direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As for anyone who does not
know that the Bolshevist movement in Russia is Jewish, I can only say
that he must be a man who is taken in by the suppression of our
deplorable press."

A HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7
"History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the second
century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary movements
in religion, politics and finance, which weakened the power of the
States wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few far-seeing members
of that race have always been at hand to reap financial and political
advantage coincident with such upheavals."

CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in
a military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col.
Barrows
in Vladivostok


"It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but the

Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and
controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who have been in the
United States and there absorbed every one of the worst phases of our
civilization without having the least understanding of what we really
mean by liberty."

MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December
15,
1923
"The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely administered by
them. They are in every government office, bureau and newspaper. They
are driving out the Russians and are responsible for the anti-Semitic
feeling which is increasing."

MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10
"B'nai B'rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in 1843,
awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its name, meaning
"Sons of the Covenant," suggests that the 12 men who organized the
fraternity aimed at bringing about the fulfillment of "the Covenant,"
or the supposed Messianic promise of rulership over all peoples. To
rule all peoples, it is first necessary to bring them together in a
world federation or world government - which is the avowed aim of both
Communists and Zionists."

VLADIMIR, LENIN, Founder of Bolshevik Communist (From an article in
Northern Pravda, October-December 1913, quoted in Lenin on the Jewish
Question, page 10)
"There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture
have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its
responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times (the percentage
of Jews in democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher
than the percentage of Jews in the general population.)
...Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist
organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other
workers, adding their might (both in Russian and in Jewish) to the
creation of an international culture of the working class movement,
are continuing the best traditions of Jewry."

JOSEPH STALIN in a reply given on January 12, 1931 to an enquiry made
by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America (Stars and Sand, page 316)
"Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false track
which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the
jungle. Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but
be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism. In the
U.S.S.R., anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon hostile
to the Soviet system. According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active
anti-Semites are punished with death."

HENRY FORD in (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921
"Jews have always controlled the business... The motion picture
influence of the United States and Canada... is exclusively under the
control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public
mind."

M OUDENDYK, the Netherlands' Minister to Petrograd on September 6,
1918, to the British Government, published in the unexpurgated edition
of A Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia, April, 1919
"...I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the
greatest issue before the World, not even excluding the war which is
till raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the


bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over

Europe and the whole World, as it is organized and worked by Jews who


have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own
ends the existing order of things."

A N. FIELD, in Today's Greatest Problem
"Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise
puzzling features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for
instance, is not a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one."

FATHER DENIS FAHEY; in his book The Rulers of Russia, page 25
"The real forces behind Bolshevism is Russia are Jewish forces, and
Bolshevism is really an instrument in the hands of the Jews for the
establishment of their future Messianic kingdom."

A N. FIELD, The Truth About the Slump, page 208
"The World today, however provides a spectacle of a great
concentration of Jewish power. In New York there is a concentration of
Jewish financial power dominating the entire world in its material
affairs, and side by side with it is the greatest physical
concentration of the Jews ever recorded. On the other side of the
globe, there has taken place in Russia the greatest concentration of
the Jewish revolutionary activity in all history...
The enormously significant thing in the world today is that both this
power of the purse (Theodor Herzl's "terrible (Jewish) power of the
purse") and revolutionary activity are working in the direction of
destroying the entire existing order of things, and not only are they
working in a common direction, but there is a mass of evidence that
they are working in unison."

H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937
"Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Revolution in Russia was in 1918."

HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Minszenty, The Truth About His Real
"Crime," page 6
"Communism and Judaism are one and the same."

ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader in New York Speech, October
30, 1937
"There is nothing else in Communism - a Jewish conspiracy to grab the
whole world in their clutches; and no intelligent man in the world can
find anything else, except the Jews, who rightly call it for
themselves a "paradise on earth."
Jews are eager to bring Communism, because they know what it is and
what it means.
It is because Communism has not been fought for what it really is - a
Jewish scheme invented by Jews - that it has progressed against all
opposition to it. We have fought the smoke-screen presented by Jewish
dialecticians and publicists, refusing to fight the inventor,
profiteer and string-puller. Because Christians and Gentiles have come
to fear the Jews, fear the truth, and they are paralyzed by the
paradoxical slogans shouted by the Jews."
REV. KENNETH GOFF, in STILL 'TIS OUR ANCIENT FOE, page 99 "The
Frankenstein of Communism is the product of the Jewish mind, and was
turned loose upon the world by the son of a Rabbi, Karl Marx, in the
hopes of destroying Christian civilization - as well as others. The
testimony given before the Senate of the United States which is take
from the many pages of the Overman Report, reveals beyond a shadow of
a doubt that Jewish bankers financed the Russian Revolution."

POPES, ROMAN CATHOLIC.
SYLVESTER I. Condemned Jewish anti-Christian activity.
GREGORY I ('The Great'). Protested wholesale circumcision of Christian
slaves by Jewish traders, who monopolized the slave trade in Europe
and the Middle East and were widely suspected of supplying white girls
to Oriental and African buyers.
GREGORY VIII. Forbade Jews to have power over Christians, in a letter
to Alfonso VI of Castile.
GREGORY IX. Condemned the TALMUD as containing "every kind of vileness
and blasphemy against Christian doctrine."
BENEDICT XIII. His Bull on the Jewish issue (1450) declared:
"The heresies, vanities and errors of the TALMUD prevent their knowing
the truth."
JULIUS III. Contra Hebreos retinentes libros (1554) ordered the TALMUD
burned "everywhere" and established a strict censorship over Jewish
genocidal writings - an order that has never been rescinded and which
presumably is still binding upon Catholics.
PAUL IV. Cum nimis absurdim (1555) promulgated immediately after his
coronation, was a powerful condemnation of Jewish usury. It embodies a
model legal code to curb Jewish power that was recommended to all
communities.
PIUS IV. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.
PIUS V. Hebraeorum gens (1569) expelled all Jews from the Papal
States.
GREGORY XIII. Declared that Jews
"continue to plot horrible crimes" against Christians "with daily
increasing audacity."
CLEMENT VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.
ALEXANDER VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.
BENEDICT XIV. Quo Primum 1751) denounced Jewish control of commerce
and "systematical despoliation" of the Christian through usury.
PIUS VII. Known generally as an 'anti-Semite' by Jewish writers.
BENEDICT XV. Warned, in 1920, against
"the advent of a Universal Republic which is longed for by all the
worst elements of disorder."
This is resented by some Jews because of their active sponsorship and
direction of such projects as the League of Nations and United
Nations.
· And in effect, all Popes who have issued editions of the Index
Expurgatorius, in which Jewish genocidal and anti-Christian writings
are condemned, according to the instructions of the Council of Trent.


GRANT, USYSSES S. 19th century American general, politician. While in
command of the 13th Army Corps, headquartered at Oxford, Mississippi,
he became so infuriated at Jewish camp-followers attempting to
penetrate the conquered territory that he finally attempted to expel
the Jews:
"I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that
can be infused into post commanders, the special regulations of the
Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and
other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that
I instructed the commanding officers at Columbus to refuse all permits
to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from
the department, but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of
all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged
class that can travel anywhere. They will land at any wood yard on the
river and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy
cotton themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will
be at military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay
for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate,
paying gold. (Letters to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary of war,
Washington, December 17, 1862)
1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade
established by the Treasury Department, and also Department orders,
are hereby expelled from the Department.
2. Within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order by
Post
Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are
furnished with passes and required to leave, and anyone returning
after such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement
until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless
furnished with permits from these headquarters.
3. No permits will be given these people to visit headquarters
for the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.
By order of Major Gen. Grant Jno. A. Rawlings, Assistant Adjutant
General (General Order Number 11, December 17, 1862)

The expulsion order was immediately countermanded by the
general-in-chief, H. W. Halleck, in Washington. Apparently the
expelled Jews had immediately contacted their kinsmen there and had
pressure brought to bear.
SHERMAN, WILLIAM T. 19th century American soldier. In a letter from
Union-occupied Memphis, July 30, 1862, he wrote:
"I found so many Jews and speculators here trading in cotton, and
secessionists had become so open in refusing anything but gold, that I
have felt myself bound to stop it. The gold can have but one use - the
purchase of arms and ammunition... Of course, I have respected all
permits by yourself or the Secretary of the Treasury, but in these new
cases (swarms of Jews), I have stopped it." (The Sherman Letters)

ROSS, L. F. 19th century American military man. As did Generals
ULYSSES S GRANT and WILLIAM T. SHERMAN, Ross confronted Jewish 'carpet
bagging' cotton traders preying upon captured Confederate areas during
the Civil War. In a letter to General John A. McClernand, he wrote:
"The cotton speculators are quite clamorous for aid in the getting
their cotton away from Middleburg, Hickory Valley, etc., and offer to
pay liberally for the service. I think I can bring it away with
safety, and make it pay to the Government. As some of the Jew owners
have as good as stolen the cotton from the planters, I have no
conscientious scruples in making them pay liberally to take it away."

OLMSTED, GREDERICK LAW. 19th century American architect, historian.
"A swarm of Jews has, within the last ten years, settled in every
Southern town, many of them men of no character, opening cheap
clothing and trinket shops, ruining or driving out of business many of
the old retailers, and engaging in an unlawful trade with the simple
Negroes, which is found very profitable. (The Cotton Kingdom. For
other views on Jewish involvement in exploiting the South, see ULYSSES
S. GRANT and MARK TWAIN.)

TWAIN, MARK (S. L. Clemens). 19th century American writer.
"In the U.S. cotton states, after the war... the Jew came down in
force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the Negroes' wants
on credit, and at the end of the season was the proprietor of the
Negro's share of the present crop and part of the next one. Before
long, the whites detested the Jew. (1)
The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not
concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant
stood no chance against his commercial abilities. The Jew was always
ready to lend on a crop. When settlement day came, he owned the crop;
the next year he owned the farm - like Joseph. (2)
In the England of John's time everybody got into debt to the Jew. He
gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands. He was the King of
Commerce. He had to be banished from the realm. For like reasons,
Spain had to banish him 400 years ago, and Austria a couple of
centuries later.
In all ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his
activities. If he entered upon a trade, the Christian had to retire
from it. If he set up as a doctor, he took the business. If he
exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else.
The law had to step in to save the Christian from the poor-house.
Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money. Even
to get rich. This history has a most sordid and practical commercial
look. Religious prejudices may account for one part of it, but not for
the other nine.
Protestants have persecuted Catholics - but they did not take their
livelihoods away from them. Catholics have persecuted Protestants -
but they never closed agriculture and the handicrafts against them. I
feel convinced that the Crucifixion has not much to do with the
world's attitude toward the Jew; that the reasons for it are much
older than that event ...
I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew is not in any large
degree due to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter. He
made it the end and aim of his life. He was at it in Rome. He has been
at it ever since. His success has made the whole human race his enemy.
You will say that the Jew is everywhere numerically feeble. When I
read in the Cyclopedia Britannica that the Jewish population in the
United States was 250,000 I wrote the editor and explained to him that
I was personally acquainted with more Jews than that, and that his
figures were without doubt a misprint for 25,000,000. People told me
that they had reasons to suspect that for business reasons, many Jews
did not report themselves as Jews. It looks plausible. I am strongly
of the opinion that we have an immense Jewish population in America. I
am assured by men competent to speak that the Jews are exceedingly
active in politics. ("Concerning the Jews," Harper's Monthly Magazine,
September 1899)

Twain's opinion on the Jews is probably the best-kept secret in
American literary history. Immediately after his death, his eccentric
daughter Clara married - or was married by - the Jewish piano player,
Ossip Galbrilowitsch. Twain's publishers were given speedy
instructions to delete "Concerning the Jews" from the collected works,
where it had appeared in the book The Man that Corrupted Hadleybury &
Other Stories.
(1) Since Jews provided most of the agitators and orators who
pushed forward the Abolition campaign that culminated in the Civil War
(which Jewish bankers largely financed, on both sides), it seems a
legitimate question whether there was any preplanning for the
wholesale - and retail - economic looting done by mainly Jewish
carpetbaggers after the war. (2) We have cited a host of other writers
on the terrible economic depredation that Jewry visited on the people
of Tsarist Russia.

ERNEST RENAN, French historian
"The Jews are not merely a different religious community, but - and
this is the most important factor - ethnically an altogether different
race. The European felt instinctively that the Jew is a stranger, who
immigrated from Asia. The so-called prejudice is natural sentiment.
Civilization will overcome antipathy against the Israelite who merely
professes another religion, but never against the racially different
Jew...
In Eastern Europe the Jew is the cancer slowly eating into the flesh
of other nations. Exploitation of the people is his only aim.
Selfishness and a lack of personal courage are his chief
characteristics; self-sacrifice and patriotism are altogether foreign
to him."

GOLDWIN SMITH, Professor of Modern History at Oxford, wrote in
Nineteenth Century, October 1881
"The Jew alone regard his race as superior to humanity, and looks
forward not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph
over them all and to its final ascendancy under the leadership of a
tribal Messiah."

MENCKEN, H. L. 20th century American writer.
"The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant race
ever heard of. As commonly encountered they lack any of the qualities
that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity, incorruptibility, ease,
confidence. They have vanity without pride, voluptuousness without
taste, and learning without wisdom. Their fortitude, such as it is, is
wasted upon puerile objects, and their charity is mainly a form of
display." (Treatise on the Gods)
The fact that what are commonly spoken of as rights are often really
privileges is demonstrated in the case of the Jews. They resent
bitterly their exclusion from certain hotels, resorts and other places
of gathering, and make determined efforts to horn in. But the moment
any considerable number of them horns in, the attractions of the place
diminish, and the more pushful Jews turn to one where they are still
nicht gewuenscht ... ("not wanted.")
"I am one of the few Goyim who have ever actually tackled the TALMUD.
I suppose you now expect me to add that it is a profound and noble
work, worthy of hard study by all other GOYIM. Unhappily, my report
must differ from this expectation. It seems to me, save for a few
bright spots, to be quite indistinguishable from rubbish..."
"The Jewish theory that the GOYIM envy the superior ability of the
Jews is not borne out by the facts. Most GOYIM, in fact, deny that the
Jew is superior, and point in evidence to his failure to take the
first prizes: he has to be content with the seconds. No Jewish
composer has ever come within miles of Bach, Beethoven and Brahms; no
Jew has ever challenged the top-flight painters of the world, and no
Jewish scientist has equaled Newton, Darwin, Pasteur or Mendel. In the
latter bracket such apparent exception as Ehrlich, Freud and Einstein
are only apparent. Ehrlich, in fact, contributed less to biochemical
fact than to biochemical theory, and most of his theory was dubious.
Freud was nine-tenths quack, and there is sound reason for believing
that even Einstein will not hold up: in the long run his curved space
may be classed with the psychosomatic bumps of Gall and Spurzheim. But
whether this inferiority of the Jew is real or only a delusion, it
must be manifest that it is generally accepted. The GOY does not, in
fact, believe that the Jew is better than the non-Jew; the most he
will admit is that the Jew is smarter at achieving worldly success.
But this he ascribes to sharp practices, not to superior ability."
(Minority Report: H. L. Mencken's Notebooks)

SHAW, GEORGE BERNARD. 20th century British dramatist.
"This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the
ruffian, the oriental parasite; in a word: the Jew. (London Morning
Post, December 3, 1925)
This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial degeneration.
The Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who still want to be
the chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can go to Palestine
and stew in their own juice. The rest had better stop being Jews and
start being human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12, 1932)

WAGNER, RICHARD. 19th century German composer.
"The Jew has never had an art of his own, hence never a live of
art-enabling import... "So long as the separate art of music had a
real organic life-need in it, down to the epochs of Mozart and
Beethoven, there was nowhere to be found a Jew composer: it was
utterly impossible for an element quiet foreign to that living
organism to take a part in the formative stages of that life. Only
when a body's inner death is manifest, do outside elements win the
power of judgment in it - yet merely to destroy it.
On one thing am I clear: that is the influence which the Jews have
gained upon our mental life, as displayed in the deflection and
falsification of our highest culture-tendencies. Whether the downfall
of our culture can be arrested by a violent rejection of the
destructive alien element, I an unable to decide, since that would
require forces with whose existence I am unacquainted. (Judaism in
Music)

SOMBART, WERNER. 20th century German economist.
"Capitalism was born from the money loan. Money lending contains the
root idea of capitalism. Turn to the pages of the TALMUD and you will
find that the Jews made an art of lending money. They were taught
early to look for their chief happiness in the possession of money.
They fathomed all the secrets that lay hid in money. They became Lords
of Money and Lords of the World...

FITZGERALD, F. SCOTT. 20th century American novelist.
"Down a tall busy street he read a dozen Jewish names on a line of
stores; in the door of each stood a dark little man watching the
passers from intent eyes - eyes gleaming with suspicion, with pride,
with clarity, with cupidity, with comprehension. New York - he could
not dissociate it from the slow, upward creep of this people - the
little stores, growing, expanding, consolidating, moving, watched over
with hawks' eyes and a bee's attention to detail - they [were Jews.]

EMERSON, RALPH WALDO. 19th century American philosopher, poet.
"The sufferance which is the badge of the Jew has made him, in these
days, the ruler of the rulers of the earth. (Fate an essay)

BURTON, SIR RICHARD FRANCIS. 19th century British diplomat, writer.
After a sting as consul at Damascus, Syria, where some years before, a
Catholic priest was allegedly murdered in a blood ritual by Jews,
Burton took an interest in the matter. His investigations satisfied
him that such killings actually were performed by certain sects of
Jews.
"The Jew's hand was ever, like Ishmael's, against every man but those
belonging to the Synagogue. His fierce passions and fiendish cunning,
combined with abnormal powers of intellect, with intense vitality, and
with a persistency of purpose which the world has rarely seen, and
whetted moreover by a keen thirst for blood engendered by defeat and
subjection, combined to make him the deadly enemy of all mankind,
whilst his unsocial and iniquitous Oral Law contributed to inflame his
wild lust of pelf, and to justify the crimes suggested by spite and
superstition."

DREISER, THEODORE. 20th century American writer.
"New York to me is a scream - a Kyke's dream of a ghetto. The Lost
Tribe has taken the island. (Letter to H. L. Mencken, November 5,
1922)"

"Liberalism, in the case of the Jew, means internationalism. If you
listen to Jews discuss Jews, you will find they are money-minded, very
sharp in practice. The Jews lack the fine integrity which at last is
endorsed, and to a certain degree followed, by lawyers of other
nationalities. The Jew has been in Germany for a thousand years, and
he is still a Jew. He has been in America for all of 200 years, and he
has not faded into a pure American by any means - and he will not.
(Letter to Hutchins Hapgood, The Nation magazine, April 17, 1935)"

WELLS, H. G. 20th century British writer.
"The Jews looked for a special savior, a messiah, who was to redeem
mankind by the agreeable process of restoring the fabulous glories of
David and Solomon, and bringing the whole world at last under the firm
but benevolent Jewish heel." (The Outline of History)
"Zionism is an expression of Jewish refusal to assimilate. If the Jews
have suffered, it is because they have regarded themselves as a chosen
people." (The Anatomy of Frustration)
"A careful study of anti-Semitism prejudice and accusations might be
of great value to many Jews, who do not adequately realize the
irritations they inflict." (Letter of November 11, 1933)
Wells was in the habit of referring to KARL MARX as "a shallow
third-rate Jew," and "a lousy Jew" in private correspondence. (Norman
MacKenzie, H. G. Wells)

LINDBERGH, CHARLES. 20th century American aviator, writer.
Wednesday, August 23, 1939

"We are disturbed about the effect of the Jewish influence in our
press, radio and motion pictures. It may become very serious. [Fulton]
Lewis told us of one instance where the Jewish advertising firms
threatened to remove all their advertising from the Mutual system if a
certain feature were permitted to go on the air. The threat was
powerful enough to have the feature removed."
Thursday, May 1, 1941

"The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed to
it, but the Administration seems to have 'the bit in its teeth' and is
hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the
country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and
radio and most of our motion pictures. There are the 'intellectuals'
and the 'Anglophiles,' and the British agents who are allowed free
rein, the international financial interests, and many others." (The
Wartime Journals)

GENERAL GEORGE VAN HORN MOSELY, in the New York Tribune, March 29,
1939
"The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish
influence throughout the world."

HERDER, JOHANN GOTTFRIED. 18th century German philosopher.
"The Jewish people is and remains in Europe an Asiatic people alien to
our part of the world, bound to that old law which it received in a
distant climate, and which, according to its confession, it cannot do
away with...
How many of this alien people can be tolerated without injury to the
true citizen?
A ministry in which a Jew is supreme, a household in which a Jew has
the key of the wardrobe and the management of the finances, a
department or commissariat in which Jews do the principal business,
are Pontine marshes which cannot be drained. (Bekehrung der Juden)
For thousands of years, since their emergence on the stage of history,
the Jews were a parasitic growth on the stem of other nations, a race
of cunning brokers all over the earth. They have cause great evil to
many ill-organized states, by retarding the free and natural economic
development of their indigenous population. ("Hebraer," in Ideen)

BONAPARTE, NAPOLEON. French statesman, general.
"The Jews provided troops for my campaign in Poland, but they ought to
reimburse me: I soon found that they are no good for anything but
selling old clothes..."
"Legislating must be put in effect everywhere that the general
well-being is in danger. The government cannot look with indifference
on the way a despicable nation takes possession of all the provinces
of France. The Jews are the master robbers of the modern age; they are
the carrion birds of humanity... "They must be treated with political
justice, not with civil justice. They are surely not real citizens."
"The Jews have practiced usury since the time of Moses, and oppressed
the other peoples. Meanwhile, the Christians were only rarely usurers,
falling into disgrace when they did so. We ought to ban the Jews from
commerce because they abuse it... The evils of the Jews do not stem
from individuals but from the fundamental nature of this people."
(From Napoleon's Reflections, and from speeches before the Council of
State on April 30 and May 7, 1806.)
"Nothing more contemptible could be done than the reception of the
Jews by you. I decided to improve the Jews. But I do not want more of
them in my kingdom. Indeed, I have done all to prove my scorn of the
most vile nation in the world." (Letter to his brother Jerome, King of
Westphalia, March 6, 1808)
(1) Every big and small Jew in the peddling trade must renew his
license every year.
(2) Checks and other obligations are only redeemable if the Jew
can prove that he has obtained the money without cheating. (Ordinance
of March 17, 1808. Napoleonic Code.)


DE GAULLE, CHARLES. 20th century French politician. Addressing the
Zionist imbroglio in the Mideast in a news conference of November 27,
1967, he observed:
"The Jews remain what they have been at all times: an elite people,
self-confident and domineering."

SAND, GEORGE (Amantine Dupin Dudevant). 19th century French novelist.
"I saw in 'the wandering Jew' the personification of the Jewish
people, exiled in the Middle Ages. Nevertheless, they are once again
extremely rich, owing to their unfailing rude greediness and their
indefatigable activity. With their hard-heartedness that they extend
toward people of other faiths and races they are at the point of
making themselves kings of the world. This people can thank its
obstinacy that France will be Judized within fifty years. Already some
wise Jews prophesy this frankly." (Letter to Victor Lorie, 1857)

COMMUNITY OF STRASBOURG, FRANCE. In an address to the ASSEMBLEE in
1790, the city's revolutionary leaders opposed citizenship for Jews,
because:
"Everyone knew the inherent bad character of the Jews and no one
doubted they were foreigners... Let the 'enlighteners' stop defaming
the Gentiles by blaming them for what is wrong with the Jews. Their
conduct is their own fault. Perhaps the Jews might eventually give up
every aspect of their separation and all the characteristics of their
nature. Let us sit and wait until that happens; we might them judge
them to be worthy of equality. (Tres Humble Adresse qui Presente la
Commune de la Ville Strasbourg)

ROBERTS, STEPHEN H. 20th century Australian historian. Though hostile
on almost every point to National Socialism, his The House that Hitler
Built does admit that Jews were a menace in Germany:
"It is useless to deny that grave Jewish problems existed in Germany.
The nation was in the unfortunate geographical position of being the
first stage in the perennial push westward of the Polish Jews. Unless
forced on, they tended to stop in Berlin and Hamburg, where they
obtained an unduly share of good professional positions. In Berlin,
for example, when the Nazi came to power, 50.2 percent of the lawyers
were Jews. In medicine, 48 per cent of the doctors were Jews, and it
was said that they systematically seized the principal hospital posts.
The Jews owned the largest and most important Berlin newspapers, and
they had made great inroads on the educational system."

FRANCO, FRANCISCO. 20th century Spanish statesman. In his victory
speech in Madrid, on May 19, 1939, he declared:
"Let us be under no illusion. The Jewish spirit, which was responsible
for the alliance of large-scale capital with Marxism and was the
driving force behind so many anti-Spanish revolutionary agreements,
will not be got rid of in a day."

PRIMO DE RIVERA, JOSE. 20th century Spanish political reformer
(assassinated by the Communists). He stressed that the instruments of
Jewish domination in the modern world are money and the press, and
that communism is an instrument of international Jewish capitalism
used to smash and afterwards rule the nations. (El Estado Nacional)
H. BEAMISH, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937
"In 1848 the word "anti-Semitic" was invented by the Jews to prevent
the use of the word "Jew." The right word for them is "Jew" ...
"I implore all of you to be accurate - call them Jews. There is no
need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must face them in
this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here forty-seven
years ago; your doors were thrown open to the Jews and they were free.
No he has got you absolutely by the throat - that is your reward."

CHRISTEA, PATRIARCH. 20th century Romanian prelate.
"The Jews have caused an epidemic of corruption and social unrest.
They monopolize the press, which, with foreign help, flays all the
spiritual treasures of the Romanians. To defend ourselves is a
national and patriotic duty - not anti-Semitism. Lack of measures to
get rid of the plague would indicate that we are lazy cowards who let
ourselves be carried alive to our graves. Why should we not get rid of
these parasites who suck Romanian and Christian blood? It is logical
and holy to react against them." (New York Herald Tribune, August 17,
1937)

HOUSTON STEWART CHAMBERLAIN, world famed author of Foundations of the
Nineteenth Century, Vol. I, page 337
"The revelation of Christ has no significance for the Jew! ... I have
searched through a whole library of Jewish books in the expectation of
finding - naturally not belief in the Divinity of Christ, nor the idea
of redemption, but the purely human feeling for the greatness of
suffering Savior - but in vain. A Jew who feels that, is, in fact, no
longer a Jew, but a denier of Judaism. And while we find, even in
Mohammed's Koran, at least a vague conception of the importance of
Christ and profound reverence for His personality, a cultured leading
Jew of the nineteenth century (Graetz) calls Christ "the new birth
with the death mask," which inflicted new and painful wounds upon the
Jewish people; he cannot see anything else in Him. In view of the
Cross he assures us that "the Jews do not require this convulsive
emotion for their spiritual improvement," and adds, "particularly not
among the middle classes of inhabitants of the cities." His
comprehension goes further. In a book, republished in 1880, by a
Spanish Jew (Mose de Leon) Jesus Christ is called a "dead dog" that
lies "buried in a dunghill." Besides, the Jews have taken care to
issue in the latter part of the nineteens century several editions
(naturally in Hebrew) of the so-called "censured passages" from the
Talmud, those passages usually omitted in which Christ is exposed to
our scorn and hatred as a "fool," "sorcerer," "profane person,"
"idolater," "dog," "bastard," "child of lust," etc.: so, too, His
sublime Mother."

ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader of the 1930s
"Through their (Jew's) international news agencies, they mold your
minds and have you see the world not as it is, but as they want you to
see it. Through their cinema, they are the educators of our youth -
and with just one film in two hours, can wipe out of a child's brain
what he has learned in six months in the home, the church or the
school."

NESTA WEBSTER, in her book Germany and England
"England is no longer controlled by Britons. We are under the
invisible Jewish dictatorship - a dictatorship that can be felt in
every sphere of life."

HENRY WALLACE, Secretary of Commerce, under President Harry Truman,
wrote in his dairy that in 1946
"Truman was "exasperated" over Jewish pressure that he support Zionist
rule over Palestine. Wallace added "Pres. Truman expressed himself as
being very much 'put out' with the Jews. He said that 'Jesus Christ
couldn't please them when he was here on Earth, so how could anyone
expect that I would have any luck?' Pres. Truman said he had no use
for them and didn't care what happened to them."

WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYANT, three times the Democratic Party candidate
for President said:
"New York is the city of privilege. Here is the seat of the Invisible
Power represented by the allied forces of finance and industry. This
Invisible Government is reactionary, sinister, unscrupulous,
mercenary, and sordid. It is wanting in national ideals and devoid of
conscience... This kind of government must be scourged and destroyed."

HENRY ADAMS (Descendant of President John Adams), in a letter to John
Hay, October 1895
"The Jewish question is really the most serious of our problems."

SPRING-RICE, SIR CECIL. 20th century British politician.
"One by one, the Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of
America. (Letter of November 1914, to Sir Edward Grey, foreign
secretary. Letters and Friendships)

CAPOTE, TRUMAN. 20th century American writer. In an interview, he
assailed "the Zionist mafia" monopolizing publishing today, and
protested a tendency to suppress things that do not meet with Jewish
approval. (Playboy magazine, March 1968)
VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher,
writer.
"Why are the Jews hated? It is the inevitable result of their laws;
they either have to conquer everybody or be hated by the whole human
race..."
"The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward
all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious,
always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous -
cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity." (Essai sur le
Moeurs)
"You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the
Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and
more honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed
all nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You
deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny." (From a letter to a
Jew who had written to him, complaining of his 'anti-Semitism.' Examen
des Quelques Objections... dans L'Essai sur le Moeurs.)
"You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people, who
for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most
detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all
peoples which tolerate and enrich them." ("Juif," Dictionnaire
Philosophique)
"I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These
marranos go wherever there is money to be made... But whether these
circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of
Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are,
simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the
earth." (Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December
15, 1773. Correspondence. 86:166)
"They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts,
just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would
not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day
become deadly to the human race." (Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron, 1771)
NH

Stan

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(snipped)

> It shows the Jews by circumstances were very good in doing what they
> were doing. But that does not justify the destruction of an entire
> race of people. The Chinese, for example, were made into good traders
> and entrepreneurs by circumstances too.
>

Yes Francis. Thomas Sowell in his book " Black Rednecks and White
Liberals" makes a very good point of this. In the chapter on ' Are Jews
Generic' he states that genocide of Jews, the Malayan genocide of ethnic
Chinese, the genocide of North Nigerians to Southern Nigerians, the Ibo's,
was cause by them being MIDDLEMEN in trade or Middlemen in government.

It seems to be wherever there are Middlemen, between producers of goods to
the end-user, a kind of hatred builds up. Firstly on an individual basis
then as a group identity and then on to wishing harm on all of them. It
has happened throughout history.

He gives a whole list of ethnic Middlemen, Jews, Chinese, Armenians,
certain African tribes, which shows the phenomenon. It maybe that we a are
pre-programmed to resent these people because they appear to be parasitic on
people who are productive. It certainly never seems to subside no matter
how words are manipulated to make it acceptable.

In other words, education doesn't eliminate the hatred towards them. The
instinct in us for survival is so deep that we can only overcome resentment
towards parasitic people when times are good and easy. Once the future
looks grim and food shortages are close, the hatred to Middlemen shoots to
the surface.


Ariadne

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On 18 Jun, 19:18, MikeinCam...@aol.com wrote:
> On 18 Jun, 08:57, Ariadne <ariadne....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 18 Jun, 07:57, MikeinCam...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > On 18 Jun, 06:18, kixi <k...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > On Jun 17, 9:51 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> > > > > inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
> > > > > violence to break down that resistance.
>
> > > > > According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
> > > > > needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
> > > > > rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
> > > > > legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
> > > > > slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
> > > > > by a robber or gangster.
>
> > > > > True?
>
> > > > There is no evidence that Hitler wanted to kill the jews. Documents
> > > > show that Germany wanted to be rid of the jews - by deportation. The
> > > > most likely destination would have been Madagascar but ... as the war
> > > > consumed more and more resources Hitler decided that that a solution
> > > > to the jewish problem be postponed until after the war.
>

I didn't see this part earlier.

The true history is otherwise. After some trial runs
at exterminations in 1941 the Wannsee Conference
consolidated and apprived the various methods of
murdering Jews (and others) and continue tod refine
them until 6 million Jews and 6 million others had
been murdered with the help of Muslims.

> > > > Documents exist is support of the above. No document exists showing
> > > > Hitler gave ary order to kill the jews and no document existes showing
> > > > that Hitler knew of any plan to kill the jews.
>
> > > > As a matter of fact the International Committee of the Red Cross knew
> > > > of no systematic killing of the jews ... neither did the Catholic or
> > > > any other church. It seem the only people who "knew" jews were
> > > > systematically being put to death were a few jews, all or nearly all
> > > > of whom have been shown to be liars.
>
> > > > That's not to say that there weren't people who wanted jews killed or
> > > > that some were killed. Much the same sentiment exists today ... and
> > > > many of us understand why.>
>

> > > Hitler's view expressed in a speech in 1944
>
> > After he had murdered millions of them?
> > Not too convincing!>
>
> Hitler told the SS in 1944 at the Berchtesgarten hotel that if the
> Jews had not been removed they would have taken over.

All antisemites have made such an excuse since
the fraudulent Protocols was written.


Ariadne

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> > > topic on the Net is the site of the Institute for Historical Review,http://www.ihr.org/Goto their "Leaflets" page athttp://www.ihr.org/main/leaflets.shtml

> > > and try any of their short articles. The one that got me on the path
> > > to truth was The 'Jewish Soap' Myth.
>
> > I just spent a few hours reading those articles given by the above
> > link. It is amazing that they can fool the whole world for so long.
> > I also wanted to say it's the first time I've seen information of this
> > nature concerning such a huge deception throughout the world. I knew
> > Israel can not be trusted, but I didn't realized Israel was so
> > involved in this deception.
>
> If one read the internationaly banned book Mine Kemf,
> one would realise Hitler was controlled
> into his actions, and his intent was against the Zionists not the
> Jewish people.

Absolute rubbish. That piece of filth is freely available
and it is full of sewer-level antisemitism.


Ariadne

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Try comparing like with like, MikeinKreuz.


Naveb

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"Stan" <ecr...@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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Very interesting read. It is food for thought.
Thanks Stan.

Viejo Vizcacha

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On Jun 19, 11:38 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <elbie_jovis_ka...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > rst0wxyz wrote:
> > > On Jun 19, 5:03 pm, Viejo Vizcacha <nats_ugly...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On Jun 19, 7:55 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
> > >>> concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> > >>> political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
> > >>> was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
> > >>> because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
> > >>> the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
> > >> There is NO comparison between the USA concentration camps for
> > >> Japanese-Americans (something that should shame Americans until
> > >> today),
>
> > > A concentration camp is a concentration camp no matter where it is.
>
> > Agree. That is why the German ones were not concentration camps, >but extermination camps.
>
> You intentional skipped the rest of that paragraph which is very
> meaningful. War-time Germany was in very bad shape. The German
> people themselves had barely enough to eat. Of course, not much food
> were sent to the prisoners. The posts in other threads from the few
> days tried to explain why the Jews died in those camps.
>

You, intentionally or not, skipped the fact that the psychopath that
was ruling Germany not only was intentionally killing Jews, Gypsies,
homosexuals, Communists, Slavs, and others, but he was sending German
boys, as young as 11 years old, to be slaughtered, and his hand did
not tremble when he signed those orders.


VV

Viejo Vizcacha

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I did not bring these quotations to show that one side is evil, but to
show that on every side there are people saying and doing stupid
things, and also saying and doing evil things. What was said and done
in the past can only help if we use it to say and do better tomorrow.


VV

Mikein...@aol.com

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>
> > Let's not forget Churchill's concentration camps. Isle of Man and
> > elsewhere. I've known four people who were in them. An Austrian Jew,
> > an Italian, an English member of Mosley's party and the son of Germans
> > who was born in one.
>
> Try comparing like with like, MikeinKreuz.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text ->

I agree with your point that German concentration camps because of
their scale and brutality were in a different class. But my point is
that the Allies were perfectly willing to imprison and often deport
without trial people who were inconvenient. Either because of their
political views or racial or national origins. No difference in
principle from Hitler. Churchill would say that this was done in a
position of national emergency. But Hitler would say the same.


rst0wxyz

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Hitler was a mad-man. Today, we have another at the White House.


>
> VV
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > The Japanese in the U.S. were treated just like the Germans treated
> > > > the Jews. The difference was war-time conditions of the countries.
> > > > Germany was being bombed and destroyed. Food and medicine were
> > > > scarce, not only for the prisoners, but also for the Germans
> > > > themselves.
>
> > > >> and the ones in German dominated Europe for Jews, Communists,
> > > >> Socialists, Gypsies, Homosexuals, and other "undesirables." That is
> > > >> why I refuse to call them "concentration" camps and use the more
> > > >> accurate "extermination camps", since I believe that this more
> > > >> precisely reflects what was going on there.
>
> > > >> And there is plenty of testimony and proof about the Nazi
> > > >> Extermination Camps.
>
> > > > Reading the posts from the last few days have opened my eyes to the so-
> > > > called "extermination camps" and Nazi's gas chambers. As I have said
> > > > many times: American propaganda is the biggest and the most effective

> > > > in the world.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

Mikein...@aol.com

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>
> Aside from the question of whether Prof. MacDonald is right is the
> further question of what difference it makes if he is right. If
> correct, his thesis certainly sheds light on the rapidity with which
> whites lost their will. Just a few decades ago whites were a confident
> race, proud of their achievements, convinced of their fitness to
> dominate the globe. Today they are a declining, apologetic people,
> ashamed of their history and not sure even of their claim to lands
> they
> have occupied for centuries. It is very rare for fundamental concepts
> to be stood on their heads in the course of just a generation or two,
> as has happened with thinking about race. Such speed suggests there
> has
> been something more than natural change.>

The Jews have made no real secret of wanting a mixed up society for
their own benefit while retaining their own separation - while
proclaiming themselves 'integrated'. (But they have not been sole
movers. Business wants immigrants as cheap labour. Not exactly a
powerless group.) Whether that leads to their benefit in the long run
is unlikely. Seems to me that immigrants taking over the west will
have no time for the Jews given the chance. Muslims being an obvious
example. Hence Ariadne's alarm and that expressed by some elements in
US Jewry, Dr Steinlight for example.

It's time the Jews woke up to the circumstances they are going to
meet, recognise the mistake, and try to rescue the West. Israel as a
bolt hole will go if only for demographic reasons. That will founder
the prevailing sense of Jewish invincibility. But I'm not holding my
breath. Jewish success has been so great that any group will wallow in
the hubris all too obvious among the likes of Lord Cashpoint. It's
short term v long term. Just like other groups - the UK electorate for
example!

|f the Jews had any sense they'd join the 'far right'.

Ariadne

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On 21 Jun, 08:13, MikeinCam...@aol.com wrote:
> > Aside from the question of whether Prof. MacDonald is right is the
> > further question of what difference it makes if he is right. If
> > correct, his thesis certainly sheds light on the rapidity with which
> > whites lost their will. Just a few decades ago whites were a confident
> > race, proud of their achievements, convinced of their fitness to
> > dominate the globe. Today they are a declining, apologetic people,
> > ashamed of their history and not sure even of their claim to lands
> > they
> > have occupied for centuries. It is very rare for fundamental concepts
> > to be stood on their heads in the course of just a generation or two,
> > as has happened with thinking about race. Such speed suggests there
> > has
> > been something more than natural change.>
>
> The Jews have made no real secret of wanting a mixed up society for
> their own benefit


Evidence?

> while retaining their own separation

Evidence?

> - while
> proclaiming themselves 'integrated'.

I expect a clear explanation of the
foregoing fantasy.

(But they have not been sole
> movers. Business wants immigrants as cheap labour. Not exactly a
> powerless group.)

You must prove the Jewish "thesis" first. Post your
evidence.

> Whether that leads to their benefit in the long run
> is unlikely.


But you haven't proved your claims yet.

>Seems to me that immigrants taking over the west will
> have no time for the Jews given the chance.


Given the chance? What do you think you are expressing
hers, MikeinKreuz?


> Muslims being an obvious
> example.


Are you Muslim?


> Hence Ariadne's alarm

At what? Those who wish to encourage antisemitism,
like yourself?

Try again.


> and that expressed by some elements in
> US Jewry, Dr Steinlight for example.
>

And of course no non-Jews think Islamism is a danger to
the West.

> It's time the Jews woke up to the circumstances they are going to
> meet, recognise the mistake, and try to rescue the West.


Oh, these all-powerful Jooooooooooz!

> Israel as a
> bolt hole will go if only for demographic reasons.

Funny that the only democracy in the Middle East
can be thrown away so lightly. It was said that
Northern Ireland before now would have fallen to
the IRA for demographic reasons.


> That will founder
> the prevailing sense of Jewish invincibility.


Apart from being unEnglish that sentence reeks of #
dishonesty and the fraudulent Protocols..

> But I'm not holding my
> breath. Jewish success has been so great that any group will wallow in
> the hubris all too obvious among the likes of Lord Cashpoint.

Ah, the acolyte of the HItler-worshipping and disgraced
(and dead) John Tyndall adopts the propaganda of NuLab.

Anything to score a point against a Jew, eh, MikeinKreuz?
And no criticism of the Prime Minister responsible for the
bad habit but historic habit of selling knighthoods.


> It's
> short term v long term. Just like other groups - the UK electorate for
> example!
>

God knows what that means.


> |f the Jews had any sense they'd join the 'far right'.

Not unless you become a truth-teller, MikeinKreuz.


jb

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"Ariadne" <ariad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> and it is full of sewer-level antisemitism.

So you freely admit, Hitler wrote it at a level the Zionists could
understand and appreciate, glad we've got that sorted:-))

Topaz

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Viejo Vizcacha

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I agree, though I still think that the mad man in Berlin was a lot
madder.

What is different, though, is the people, Hitler never got more than
44% of support, even after he burnt the Reichstag, which had an effect
on the German people similar to September 11, 2001 had on the American
people. But even there, we can see a difference. While NINETY percent
of Americans rallied behind Bush in the months followin the terrorist
attacks, less than 45% of Germans did so after the Reichstag was burnt
down.

Even today, 3 out of 10 Americans still support Bush. I do not hold
the American people in very high esteem when it comes to smarts, but
30% supporting Bush surprises even me. I am just trying to imagine
living in the USA and knowing that 3 out of every 10 I see at work, in
the neighbourhood, at the supermarket, at the stadium, at a PTA
meeting, riding the bus with me, driving in those cars next to me,
THREE OUT OF TEN STILL SUPPORTS BUSH!!!!!!!!

I cannot help but ask: why? What do you see in that man, what do you
think he is doing right to still support such an imbecile? The problem
is not with the mad men, but with the peoples that support them.

VV


Topaz

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:13:05 -0700, Mikein...@aol.com wrote:


>
>The Jews have made no real secret of wanting a mixed up society for
>their own benefit while retaining their own separation - while
>proclaiming themselves 'integrated'. (But they have not been sole
>movers. Business wants immigrants as cheap labour. Not exactly a
>powerless group.) Whether that leads to their benefit in the long run
>is unlikely. Seems to me that immigrants taking over the west will
>have no time for the Jews given the chance. Muslims being an obvious
>example. Hence Ariadne's alarm and that expressed by some elements in
>US Jewry, Dr Steinlight for example.
>
>It's time the Jews woke up to the circumstances they are going to
>meet, recognise the mistake, and try to rescue the West.

It's time Whites figured out that the Jews are the enemy of the
West. There is a book called "The Zionist Factor" which explains what
happens when a White group get taken over by Jews. That is what
happened in South Africa. There was a White Separatist movement that
was doing really well. Then the leader was replaced by a Jew. Imagine
how good a group would supposedly do with the Jews money and media
power supporting it. In reality of course the Whites could kiss their
aft ends goodbye after that.

Topaz

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Jews say that being "anti-Semitic" is a terrible crime. Do they say
being "anti-Arab" is a terrible crime? What about "anti-Christian", or
"anti-German"? Of course the Jews think
they are special. Any other group could be our enemy, but not the
Jews, they say. The Jews tell us the Arabs are our enemies. The
Jewish controlled media tells us that the Jews are America's only
friend in the Middle East. The truth is that before the Jews America
didn't have any enemies in the Middle East.

Americans had a revolution when they were ruled by the British. If
the British accused
them of being "anti-British" would the Americans throw down their guns
and apologize?
Now that America is ruled by the Jews it is no insult to be called
"anti-Semite". The insult is that they think we care about their self
serving verbiage.

The Jewish controlled media said the French were "cheese eating
surrender monkeys". Why can't the French howl "anti-French" like the
Jews howl "anti-Semite"? Because the French don't control the media,
Jews do.

This is what President Nixon said:

http://www.hnn.us/comments/15664.html

"There may be some truth in that if the Arabs have some complaints
about my policy towards Israel, they have to realize that the Jews in
the U.S. control the entire information and propaganda machine, the
large newspapers, the motion pictures, radio and television, and the
big companies. And there is a force that we have to take into
consideration."

Topaz

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The Wannsee conference can be compared to the allies "Morganthau Plan"
of destroying all German industry after the war. People often talk and
make plans that never get carried out.
Israeli Holocaust historian Yehuda Bauer declared: "The public still
repeats, time after time, the silly story that at Wannsee the
extermination of the Jews was arrived at." In Bauer's opinion, Wannsee
was a meeting but "hardly a conference" and "little of what was said
there was executed in detail."
Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), Jan. 30, 1992.
Besides that, what was discussed at the meeting was that they wanted
to move the Jews out of Germany, move them to the east, where the
Germans gained territory in the fight against the Soviets.
The reason the allies say this meeting is sinister is that someone
said that once in the east the Jews would be put to work on roads and
hopefully die of natural causes.
Is this what the Germans are charged with? Don't they say Jews died in
"gas chambers" rather than outside working on roads?
Communism was Jewish and the Germans knew it. This is what we should
be talking about rather than the endless accusations of the allies who
are ruled by the Jews.

Topaz

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Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

Topaz

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The Germans removed the Jews from ruling over them. That is what
America needs to do:

Here are some quotes from a German pamphlet titled "Why the Aryan
Law?":
"In 1793 the famous philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, author of
"Speeches to the German Nation," wrote a pamphlet titled "A
Contribution to Correcting Judgments about the French Revolution." It
contained the following significant sentence:

"In nearly all the nations of Europe, a powerful, hostile government
is growing, and is at war with all the others, and sometimes oppresses
the people in dreadful ways: It is Jewry!"

The French Revolution, with its "ideas for the improvement of
humanity" thundered past, and in the noise the people who had believed
in world brotherhood entirely missed this serious warning. What Fichte
warned the word about then has today become fact in nearly all the
nations of the world. The Jewish people, once only tolerated, knew how
to raise a hue and cry about discrimination and persecution, winning
the sympathy of the world for the "poor Jews." They increasingly
infiltrated deep within our national organism, growing to have power
over every single area of our national life. The old saga, the "Edda,"
observes that one blocks a river at its source. The failure to do that
was the great mistake of the German people. Thank God, it is not too
late. Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler recognized the importance of the
problem for Germany's rebirth, and outlined its solution in his
program.

Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their
Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have
seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us
because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to
them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the
non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made
clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race
and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.

National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of
Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading
offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship
between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have
not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in
German national life. It is not a question of German-Jewish
coexistence, rather of making as great as possible a separation
between blood and blood.
Three things are involved here:

A knowledge of the basic principles of National Socialist racial
thinking,
An understanding of the growth and expansion of Jewry,
The dominant sociological position of Jewry, to show how it dominated
the German people economically, intellectually and politically..."

"In discussing the Jewish Question, even today one encounters
resistance and misunderstandings, especially in intellectual circles.
This can only be explained by the intellectual education of the
political past. This is especially evident when one discusses the
fundamental issues.

Whenever a new thought arises in the world and calls people to
practical action, the old world resists because it feels its
foundations threatened. Its old standpoint has ruled for decades, and
it looks uncomprehendingly at a new idea that does not fit into the
accustomed patterns of thinking. That is natural. When the new idea
and worldview are truly revolutionary, they are on a different level
of human thought and feeling, and there can be no compromise. Its
realization depends on people who support it, and who are ready to
fight to transform the life of the individual and of the nation in
every way..."

"In the long run, no idea is better suited to guarantee peace between
nations than National Socialist racial thinking, which calls for the
furtherance and maintenance of one's own race and one's own people,
and supports similar efforts on the part of other nations..."

"The new Germany that views its own race and ethnicity positively must
therefore distinguish within its territory between one race and
another, between one people and another. Mixing of blood harms both
sides. Race is an issue for every people if they are to live according
to their nature. The German people is not so arrogant as to believe
that is is the chosen people. The familiar quotation from Geibel, "The
world should enjoy German ways," should be understood in the context
of the dreams of world betterment of those past days.

The National Socialist racial viewpoint has clear consequences for the
relationship between Germans and Jews. People have often said that
National Socialism's approach to the racial question is purely
negative and destructive, and that its essential characteristic is
radical anti-Semitism. One must grant that we made the Jewish question
clearer than anyone else, and taught an entire generation that had
been taught to see all people the same to recognize the importance of
the Jewish question not only for our people, but for the entire world.
Our treatment of the Jewish problem in the years before we took power
must be seen as the political education of the German people, which
had lost its racial instincts to a dangerous degree.

The question took on its own nature in Germany, Many citizens had
their eyes opened, and the simultaneous appeal to all the heroic and
manly virtues of the German man resulted in a racial selection of
political fighters who today stand at the head of the new state.
Formerly, the Jewish question, as seen by the state, was a matter of
complete equality and the unhindered immigration of Jews from the
East. This is the best proof of how racial feeling and consciousness
had been lost. Our tone was not purely negative or the simple
rejection of others, rather the emphasis was on the positive values of
our own people. This does require noting that Jewry through its
Marxist class struggle leadership role and its international financial
measures aimed at Germany supported every kind of anti-national action
in the cultural and political fields. Jewry should not complain if its
anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other
country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of
anti-Semitism.

The starting point of the discussion is the scientific fact that the
Jew is different than the German. This is neither arrogant nor
boastful, it simply is the way things are. For us, the Jewish question
is a question between two peoples. Its characteristics are determined
by the racially determined differences between the two, and through
the unusual sociological and numerical development of Jewry in the
course of its history, developments that are particularly evident in
the last decades through a constantly growing process of foreign
infiltration that has reached an intolerable level for the German
people.

More than once over its history, the German people has absorbed
foreign elements, but they were racially identical or similar
population groups, as for example was the case with the Huguenots.
With the Jews, things are fundamentally different. They are seen
everywhere as foreigners, and see themselves that way as well. Walter
Rathenau said it most clearly as early as 1897: "How strange! In the
middle of German life there is a separate, foreign tribe that stands
out in every way with its hot-tempered behavior. An Asiatic horde has
settled on the sands of Mark Brandenburg." Einstein said something in
1931: "I have to laugh when I hear the phrase 'German citizen of the
Jewish faith.' These citizens first of all want nothing to do with my
poor Eastern European brothers, and second do not want to be sons of
my (Jewish) people, but only members of the Jewish cultural community.
Is that honest? Can a non-Jew respect such people? I am not a German
citizen. I am a Jew, and am happy to belong to the Jewish people."

The most remarkable thing about Jewry is that it has not disappeared
over the millennia, even though it lacks its own territory and
language. Even more remarkable is that it lacks the main
characteristic of a minority population, its own pockets of settlement
to which it could if necessary retreat. Only time will tell if
Palestine will someday fill this gap. That question is made more
difficult by the fact that the Arabs maintain their claim on
Palestine. Whatever the twists of history, the Jew has always remained
the same, whether as a grain speculator in ancient Rome or as a bank
or stock exchange potentate in the modern era. They were always able
to control the wealth of whole nations. Nations and peoples once their
contemporaries have vanished, leaving only words and crumbled
monuments behind; only the Jew remains. In ancient days we see him
carrying on his business in the trading centers of the Mediterranean.
In the Middle Ages he provided money for German nobles and free
cities. Today he rules the banks and stock exchanges of the whole
world, forcing the nations under the yoke of financial capitalism. The
power of this people of 15 million rests on these international
relations. This is how they seem to fulfill the commandment of Jehovah
- the world domination of the chosen people.
The secret of the Jewish people, which has enabled them to survive
through all of history's twists and turns, is that it has always
recognized the laws of blood, even anchoring them in the laws of its
religion. The consciousness of blood and family that believing Jews
have has been stronger than all the other forces of history, giving us
a unique example of a people without its own land and language, which
still meets the criteria for being a people, and which has outlasted
many other peoples.

This historic manifestation of Jewry, which is unique, brings to the
fore the question of the relationship between the host and guest
peoples. It has been answered in differing ways throughout history,
depending on the worldview and thinking then predominant.
Since the Jews were dispersed they have been held together by the laws
of their religion and their faith that they were the chosen people.
Until the middle of the 18th Century, Germans and Jews lived apart
from each other. The Jews had no opportunity to become involved in the
religious of political-intellectual life of their host people. On the
other hand, they could practice their own customs without
interference. They had their own religion and their own laws. During
the Middle Ages, the Ghetto was the way Jewry could maintain itself in
the midst of other peoples and fulfill its Jewish duties, which grew
out of its race, origins and laws. The values and ideals of other
peoples were not affected. This separation was only possible because
the views of the host people were as strong as those of the Jews.
According to the writer Grau: "There was no racial defilement or
baptism, no attempt to join a nation that one could never be a member
of, and no attempt to intellectually silence the host people." In the
Ghetto of the Middle Ages, the Jew developed his nature and
characteristics, which were later to become significant, while
maintaining the community of blood and race. The latter is
particularly important, since the strict physical separation between
the host and guest peoples maintained the foreign nature that we daily
see so clearly, now that the barriers between have long since fallen.

Even in the Middle Ages, the most important thing was not the
difference between the Christian and Mosaic faiths. Rather, there was
on the one hand the natural sense that the Jew was of a foreign race,
and on the other hand the strict law of blood which demanded a clear
separation if the Jews were to fulfill Jehovah's mission, which had
guided them from the beginning. Just this has always been kept in the
background by historians, who present the Ghetto as a tolerated asylum
for Jewish martyrs persecuted on account of their faith. There is a
gap to be filled here. The task of historians writing from our new
viewpoint will be to examine the portrait of the Ghetto of the Middle
Ages to discover its importance for the development of Jewry and the
relationship between the guest and host peoples. Even the Jewish side
is demanding that. O. Karbach criticizes historical writing because it
"in significant ways conceals the historical fact that the Jews in the
centuries before their emancipation possessed a legal standing that
was better than the greater part of the rest of the population, namely
complete or partial agricultural freedom. (Ordnung in der Judenfrage,
edited by E. Czermak, Reinhold, Vienna, 1933).

The barriers between Germans and Jews fell as a result of the
Enlightenment and the French Revolution. The path to Jewish world
domination would take a different direction than pious, observant Jews
had expected. Emancipation made it possible to build Jewish dominance
through secular means. With the disappearance of racial consciousness,
only religious differences seemed to remain. It seemed at the time
unjust to give someone a preferred position only because of his
religious beliefs, which are an entirely personal matter. At the time,
this was tied to a belief in human equality and freedom. It was
revolutionary. It shattered the church dogmas that had ruled for
centuries and was the foundation of liberal thinking during the last
two hundred years. The new goal was humanity itself, and nothing stood
in the way of racial mixing. Some had the quiet hope that assimilation
would mean the absorption of Jewry. Jewry itself, however, was more
than willing to use the opportunities of religious assimilation, which
opened the path to all important positions, even to political
leadership. As H. Heine said, "baptism was the ticket to European
culture." Gradually, an intermixing with the German people developed,
particularly in its cultural elite. Foreign blood infiltrated to a
degree that we realize only today now that the "Law to Reestablish a
Professional Bureaucracy" has exposed numerous sources of foreign
blood. This process has greatly accelerated during the last fourteen
years.

Today the age of raceless thinking is being displaced by the ideals of
human variability. Values are rooted in origin and territory, and each
group has a historic mission based on its own unique and eternal
values. Such new racial thinking will of course secure the opposition
of those who either through faith or reason still believe in the unity
of humanity in culture, social order and organization. The Jews will
naturally oppose any discussion of race, since the denial of any
significant differences between people is the foundation of his
infiltration of Western European society. The Jew finds any mention of
the racial question as an attack on his current existence. His leading
role in every anti-national area is characteristic of his mimicry, and
is necessary for his continued existence. That explains the phrase
"German citizen of the Jewish faith."

The recognition that the Jew is of a foreign and different race along
with the reawakening of German racial consciousness must necessarily
lead to a change in the relations between Germans and Jews.

There is one point to keep in mind before examining the statistics.
Only those people who claimed to be Jews and were members of the
Mosaic faith were counted as Jews, not those who for internal or
external reasons belonged to another religion, or those who claimed to
be dissident Jews and therefore did not belong to the standard groups.
This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in
the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather
those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether
of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians. That is just what the
supporters of the Talmud and the Old Testament always said. They
complained that the state opened all offices to those "without
character," to "Christmas Jews," even admitting them to the officer
corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased
significantly. The Jews are a race, and baptism does not in any way
change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German
people..."

Of course, the intellectual atmosphere that enabled the Jew to
infiltrate the German body politic quickly led the Jew himself to see
that conditions for his advancement were favorable, and that the way
to the top was open. He also realized what the population statistics
meant, indeed they were particularly clear to him, since 2/3 of his
kind lived in the big cities, the centers of the liberal worldview..."

"Nothing shows the differences between our people and the Jews more
clearly than their likes and dislikes for certain occupations. In some
occupations, particularly those that are most important for the nation
as a whole, the foreign influence on German life has reached an
intolerable extent not seen elsewhere in Europe. The preference for
certain occupations also gives us an interesting insight into the
spiritual nature of Jewry.
The following figures show how much critical occupations in Germany
have been infiltrated.

112,188 Jews, or 58.8%, far more than half, are employed in the area
of "commerce and transportation, including restaurants and taverns,"
but only 17.11% (3,248,145) of the population as a whole. In the area
of "industry and craft work, including mining and construction,"
19,318 Jews (25.85%) were employed, including 31.82% of foreigners.
For the population as a whole, the figure was 40.94% (7,771,799).

The figures in the field of "public administration, the judiciary, the
army and navy, churches, legal professionals and the independent
professions." 11,324 Jews were employed there, or 5.94% , over against
921,048 (4.85%) in the general population..."
In 1925, 0.81% of Jews were active as civil servants and the army and
navy, as opposed to 2.3% of the general population. In the church,
religious occupations, the legal system and the other independent
professions, the Jewish percentage is 4.3% as opposed to 2% of the
general population. This shows that the Jews are over-represented when
compared to the general population, particularly in the independent
professions.

The percentage of the Jewish population in government positions may
seem less than that of the general population, but the difference is
not as great as the figures first suggest. The most recent figures,
not yet entirely complete, suggest that a not insignificant number of
them are baptized Jews or dissidents formerly of the Jewish faith who
denied their Jewishness to gain an official position.

4.35% of Jews are employed in the medical and health care system,
including welfare, and 2.0% of foreign Jews. The figure for the
general population is 1.88%. The Jewish percentage is thus 2 1/2 times
as high as that of the general population.

In summary, Jewish occupational patterns differ from those of the rest
of the population. Jewry seems to have an aversion to agricultural
work, industrial labor and crafts. They are greatly over-represented
in commerce and transportation, including the entire banking system.
They are also over-represented in the independent professions and the
health care system. These figures alone demonstrate a clear difference
between the native German population and alien Jewry.

Very similar conditions prevail in all Western European nations and
also in North America, since Jews have spread throughout the world in
areas with growing industry and in cities that are centers of economic
and financial power. It is not true, as is often claimed, that the Jew
was systematically forced into commerce by the laws of the various
nations; rather, commerce particularly suits the Jew's nature. This is
supported by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, a scholar respected by the Jews. He
writes in his book The Jews of the Present (2nd edition, Cologne and
Leipzig, 1911, p. 45):

"Thanks to their significant commercial gifts (!), the Jews soon
enjoyed great success in commerce and industry. For 2000 years they
have seemed predestined to work in commerce. It is false to claim, as
some do, that Jews became merchants primarily because the Christians
denied them other occupations during the Middle Ages. The Jews did not
become merchants in Europe, rather they entered the profession in
growing numbers ever since the Babylonian Captivity in Syria, Egypt
and Babylon [because they dislike labor and prefer to have others work
for them! The Editor]. In Palestine until the dispersion they did live
primarily by agriculture. In the Diaspora, there was hardly anywhere
that the Jews lived by agriculture. The Middle Ages did not make them
into merchants. It only affirmed legally that which history had
already established. It is after all the rule that economic laws
generally do not create new conditions, but only legalize and regulate
that which already exists. The law would never have limited the Jews
to commerce in Europe if they had not already immigrated primarily as
merchants..."

Nearly all national economists agree that the Jews owe their role as
merchants not to chance, but to their excellent abilities as
merchants. As W. Sombart wrote: "The Jewish race is by nature the
incarnation of the capitalism-mercantile spirit." (Der moderne
Kapitalismus, Vol. 2, p. 349. Leipzig, 1902). Many others agree..."

"Similarly differences in the relative proportion of Jews by the
self-employed are evident in the medical field, which employs 0.5% of
the general population but 2.8% of the Jews, nearly six times as many.

Similar statistics are found in the cultural area (theater, film,
radio, education, teaching, etc.). The 0.4% of the general population
are employed there, 2.6% of the Jews, also about six times as many.

In the area of public administration and the judiciary, the percentage
of Jews in high positions is 2.0%, over against 1.3% of the general
population, nearly twice as high. The significance of these figures
becomes clear that when one realizes that the 2.3% of professional
Jews in public administration and the judiciary are in a branch where
the Jewish percentage of employees is only 0.81%. That means that the
Jews are especially represented in the important positions that
influence the whole government and leading branches of the economy.."

"The statistics may be interesting. The Jewish workers included 11,406
in industry, 2,220 in commerce and transportation, and 726 in
agriculture.
The following figures show most clearly the different social structure
of Jewry in Prussia over against the general population, and reveal
clearly Jewry's leading role in public life:.."


"On 19 May 1933 Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler gave an interview to
Bernard Ridder, an American journalist for the New York State
Newspaper. Discussing the Jewish Question in Germany, he said: "Should
I allow thousands of German-blooded people to be destroyed so that the
Jews can live and work in luxury while millions starve, falling victim
to Bolshevism out of desperation?"

Can the justice of his words be doubted when one recalls that,
according to the Prussian census of 16 June 1925 6.9% of all
independent pharmacists, 17.9% of all independent physicians, 4.8% of
all independent artists, 27% of all independent attorneys, 4.6% of
editors, 11% of theater directors, 7.5% of actors, and 14.8% of all
independent dentists were Jews! And these huge figures when the Jews
were only 1% of the population! Is that anything other than a
Jewdification of our entire cultural system?! And what would these
figures look like if one had had the ability to include baptized Jews
and dissidents?..."


"Berlin is the Jewish metropolis in Germany. The process of
Jewdification is considerably further along. That is understandable,
since one is in the immediate vicinity of the protective arms of
democracy and social democracy, where developments can occur
unhindered. Thus in Berlin on 16 June 1925 32.2% of the pharmacists
were Jews, as were 49.9% of the physicians, 7.5 of the graphic
artists, 50.2% of the attorneys, 8.5% of the editors, 14.2% of the
directors and theater heads, 12.3% of the actors and 37.5% of the
dentists.

These figures cry out for legal limitations on Jewry, and it is
surprising that former governments did not take the appropriate action
to tell the Jews "this far and no further."
The Jewish influence gave the rest of the world an entirely false
impression of the nature of the German people. Inside the Reich, they
poisoned the soul of the people, and all social and political
relationships. Until the national uprising, the leaders of the
National Socialist movement were persecuted, defamed and suppressed by
a system that was a willing tool in the hands of a foreign and
different race. The national revolution freed the German people from
this foreign influence, which had also dominated and ruined the German
press and public life in significant ways.
He who wants to understand the German revolution of 1933 must
understand that it had this goal: 'Germany must be governed by Germans
for Germans.' The central idea of the National Socialist revolution
was the longing of the German people to once more be master in every
area of its own life. As a great, confident people, we demand only
this of the other peoples: that they permit us, as their equals, to
govern ourselves as we wish and find our own way to happiness (Reich
Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick)..."


"The Jewdification of our colleges and universities over the years has
reached almost frightening proportions. We begin with a publication
from 1931. Karl Hoppmann, in his volume "On the State of Jewdification
in the Academic professions" found the following figures:

1. University of Berlin:
Medical faculty . . . . over 50%
Philosophical faculty . . . . 25%
2. University of Göttingen, 32% of the professors were Jewish:
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . .40.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 23.0%
3. University of Breslau
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.0%
4. University of Frankfurt (Main)
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 28.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.0%
Economics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28.0%

Jewry has a dominating role on the stock exchange. The board of the
Berlin stock exchange is almost exclusively Jewish. In the various
committees, the percentage of the Jewish race is sometimes many times
as high as the Aryan. The committees include:
That means that 117 or 147 members are Jews, or nearly 80%.
The extent of the Jewdification of German theater and film is evident
from 1931 figures. Of 234 theater directors, 118 (50.4%) were Jews, 92
(39.3%) were non-Jewish.
Berlin led in this area as well, with 23 of 29 theater directors (80%)
Jewish.
The situation in film is similar. The Viennese Catholic periodical
"Schönere Zukunft," which certainly cannot be accused of
anti-Semitism, wrote the following in its 3 February 1929 issue:

"The percentage of Jewry in today's film industry is so high, at least
by us in Germany, that there is only a tiny part left for Christian
firms."

Jewry has long sought political influence as well. This formerly
happened in covert ways, mostly through direct or indirect control of
money matters. Nearly every noble once had his financial Jew. Since
1848, the birth of political parties in Germany, Jewry has openly
sought to become a political power. The Jew Marx was the founder of
Marxist doctrine, the Jew Lassalle was the founder of the Social
Democratic Party. The founders of the Independent Social Democratic
Party of Germany were the Jews Bernstein, Haase, Kautsky, Hilferding,
Cohn, Davidsohn, Simon, Rosenfeld, Eisner, Levi, etc. Carl Liebknecht
and Rosa Luxemberg were the leaders of the Communist Party, and
recently the Jews Rosenfeld and Seydewitz founded the Socialist
Workers Party. Jews sat in the press offices and the various editorial
offices of party newspapers, and above all in the various
parliamentary factions..."

"We think it necessary to mention that the Communist wave that
threatened to destroy Germany politically, economically and
intellectually can primarily be traced back to Jewry.
Is it any wonder that the Jew is arrogant? The greater the Jewish
influence the more secure they feel, and the more ominously and
clearly their character and goals becomes clear: Pride, intolerance
and superiority on the one hand, a drive for world domination on the
other. Several pointed Jewish statements are examples:

Hochmut: The familiar "Dorfgeschichte"-Auerbach says: "We Jews are the
most intelligent race." "We are the chosen ones," says Dr. Berhard
Cohn (Jüdisch-Politische Streitfragen, 20, 22). He continues: "We may
carry our head high and demand particular respect. We must not only be
treated equally, but better. We deserve the particular respect of
other peoples."

Rabbi Dr. Rulf wrote a book ("Aruchas bar-Ammni," Israel's Healing,
Frankfurt a. M. 1883) in which he says: "The Jewish people is a
blessing for all peoples. The blessing has followed on the heels of
the Jews. A whole world lives from the Jews, who feed everyone, and
everywhere spread wealth and pleasure, comfort and prosperity. Only
the commerce of the Jews creates value. Work alone does not do that.
Half of the world's population would starve without the Jews."

The Jew Dr. Duschak wrote: "The world could not exist without the
Jews." The well-known Jew Sacher-Masoch explained the hatred of
anti-Semites against the Jews in this way: It is the same hatred a
Negro feels against the whites because of their superiority.
That the Jews even went so far as to suggest to Bismark that he make
the Jewish Day of Atonement a national holiday is certainly no sign of
modesty.

Intolerance: The Jew Klausner (Society, edited by Conrad, Volume 12)
wrote: "Anti-Semitism and criminality are nearly the same thing. There
are criminals who were not anti-Semites, but no anti-Semites who were
not criminals."

The work by Dr. E. Fuchs. "The Future of the Jews," (Berlin,
Philo-Verlag, 1924) judges our greatest historians, Hartmann and
Treitschke, who see the Jews as our misfortune: "Men blinded by
prejudice and hatred. Small, tiny men."

World Domination: The Jewish attorney Maurthner in Vienna said back in
the 1880's: "It is not just a matter of fighting anti-Semitism. We
want to oppose it with Jewish domination!"

They made the attempt. If the German people had not recovered their
senses at the last moment, and if they had not had a Fuehrer and
Chancellor named Adolf Hitler who recognized the danger and woke the
German people, we would have fallen into slavery. As we have already
noted, the Jew has always known how to rouse sympathy when things were
rough for him. Consider this report from the meeting of the PEN Club
in Ragusa at the end of May of last year: "Schalom Asch in his keynote
address noted that the suffering of the Jews in Germany had aroused
the sympathy of the entire world. Only the German government remained
untouched. He claimed the Jews has given Germany its deepest thoughts,
its most beautiful songs, its greatest poets, artists and
philosophers. Today one had crucified them in Germany and covered them
with their own blood." Mr. Schalom Asch began crying in the midst of
these outrageous lies. He spoke in the hope that his words would be
heard for the sake of justice and humanity throughout the world.
The Jew Asch cries! The German people are not moved. They want no
torture or persecution, but also no unjustified sympathy, only
justice! Remember always the worlds of Field Marshall Moltke: "The Jew
is a state within the state." Remember also the works of our great
historian Mommsen: "In antiquity too the Jew was the ferment of
cosmopolitanism and national decomposition." And remember Goethe: "The
Israelites have never done much; they possess few virtues, and most of
the deficiencies of other peoples!"

The Racial Question has an important role in the laws of other
nations, though other peoples and races are affected than in the
German Reich. It is in no way new or unusual that the German Reich is
active in this area. Contrary to opinions that surface here and there,
our laws are in no way directed against the Jewish religion, its
practice, or the freedom of the Jewish faith.

The German Reich has done nothing but introduce constitutional
legislation to provide the kind of civil service necessary to
guarantee the secure administration of the Reich. The laws do not
render it impossible for a citizen of a foreign state to become a
civil servant. Indeed, if he is appointed to such a position, he
receives full citizenship in the Reich. German civil servants should
however be of Aryan descent. The so-called Aryan Law requires that
each civil servant be of German blood. Since the vast majority of
non-Aryan civil servants were Jews, the first guidelines to the law
paid particular attention to those who were members of the Jewish
race. But we did not simply throw out the non-Aryan civil servants,
but retired them with honor and a pension. The people's state could
hardly proceed in a more legal and mild manner. Germany did not want
to attack Jewry wildly, rather only deal with its results, is clear
from the fact that the Law of 7 April 1933 left untouched all
non-Aryan civil servants who had been appointed before 1 August 1914,
and by the fact that the private sphere not affected. Some complain
that the law extends to half and quarter Aryans. The answer is that
the foreign influence in the civil service had grown to such a
dangerous extent that it was almost impossible for young Germans to
enter these professions." (Reich Minister of the Interior Dr.
Frick..."

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Auschwitz: Myths and facts
by Mark Weber

Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime
concentration camp where many prisoners-most of them Jewish-were
reportedly exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is
widely regarded as the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The
camp's horrific reputation cannot, however, be reconciled with the
facts.
Scholars challenge Holocaust story
Astonishing as it may seem, more and more historians and engineers
have been challenging the widely accepted Auschwitz story. These
"revisionist" scholars do not dispute the fact that large numbers of
Jews were deported to the camp, or that many died there, particularly
of typhus and other diseases. But the compelling evidence they present
shows that Auschwitz was not an extermination center and that the
story of mass killings in "gas chambers" is a myth.
The Auschwitz camps
The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now
south-central Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there
between 1942 and mid-1944.
The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II, was
supposedly the main extermination center, and Monowitz, or Auschwitz
III, was a large industrial center where gasoline was produced from
coal. In addition there were dozens of smaller satellite camps devoted
to the war economy.
Four million victims?
At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans
exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This figure, which was
invented by the Soviets, was uncritically accepted for many years. It
often appeared in major American newspapers and magazines, for
example. (note 1)
Today no reputable historian, not even those who generally accept the
extermination story, believes this figure. Israeli Holocaust historian
Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that it is time to finally acknowledge the
familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth. In July 1990 the
Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with Israel's Yad Vashem
Holocaust Center, suddenly announced that altogether perhaps one
million people (both Jews and non-Jews) died there. Neither
institution would say how many of these people were killed, nor were
any estimates given of the numbers of those supposedly gassed. (note
2) One prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald Reitlinger, has estimated
that perhaps 700,000 or so Jews perished at Auschwitz. More recently,
Holocaust historian Jean-Claude Pressac has estimated that about
800,000 persons-of whom 630,000 were Jewish-perished at Auschwitz.
While even such lower figures are incorrect, they show how the
Auschwitz story has changed drastically over the years. (note 3)
Bizarre tales
At one time it was seriously claimed that Jews were systematically
electrocuted at Auschwitz. American newspapers, citing a Soviet
eyewitness report from liberated Auschwitz, told readers in February
1945 that the methodical Germans had killed Jews there using an
"electric conveyor belt on which hundreds of persons could be
electrocuted simultaneously [and] then moved on into furnaces. They
were burned almost instantly, producing fertilizer for nearby cabbage
fields." (note 4)
And at the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert Jackson
charged that the Germans used a "newly invented" device to
instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way
that there was no trace left of them." (note 5) No reputable historian
now accepts either of these fanciful tales.
The Höss 'confession'
A key Holocaust document is the "confession" of former Auschwitz
commandant Rudolf Höss of April 5, 1946, which was submitted by the
U.S. prosecution at the main Nuremberg trial. (note 6)
Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for the Auschwitz
extermination story, it is actually a false statement that was
obtained by torture.
Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant
Bernard Clarke described how he and five other British soldiers
tortured the former commandant to obtain his "confession." Höss
himself privately explained his ordeal in these words: "Certainly, I
signed a statement that I killed two and half million Jews. I could
just as well have said that it was five million Jews. There are
certain methods by which any confession can be obtained, whether it is
true or not." (note 7)
Even historians who generally accept the Holocaust extermination story
now acknowledge that many of the specific statements made in the Höss
"affidavit" are simply not true. For one thing, no serious scholar now
claims that anything like two and a half or three million people
perished in Auschwitz.
The Höss "affidavit" further alleges that Jews were already being
exterminated by gas in the summer of 1941 at three other camps:
Belzec, Treblinka and Wolzek. The "Wolzek" camp mentioned by Höss is a
total invention. No such camp existed, and the name is no longer
mentioned in Holocaust literature. Moreover, the story these days by
those who believe in the Holocaust legend is that gassings of Jews did
not begin at Auschwitz, Treblinka, or Belzec until sometime in 1942.
No documentary evidence
Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were
confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a
policy or program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story
cannot be reconciled with the documentary evidence.
Many Jewish inmates unable to work
For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were
unable to work were immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young,
sick, or weak were supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who
could be worked to death were temporarily kept alive.
But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the
Jewish inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not
killed. For example, an internal German telex message dated Sept. 4,
1943, from the chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS
Economic and Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of
25,000 Jewish inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and
that all of the remaining Jewish inmates-some 21,500, or about 86
percent-were unable to work. (note 8)
This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on
"security measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS
concentration camp system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported
that there was a total of 67,000 inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp
complex, of whom 18,000 were hospitalized or disabled. In the
Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly the main extermination
center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of whom
"approximately 15,000 are unable to work." (note 9)
These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz
extermination story.
The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily
as a camp for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and
elderly, as well as for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment
to other camps. That's the considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of
Northwestern University, who also says that this was the reason for
the unusually high death rate there. (note 10)
Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish,
acknowledges in a recent book about the "final solution" that more
Jews perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other "natural"
causes than were executed. (note 11)
Anne Frank
Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known
around the world for her famous diary. But few people know that
thousands of Jews, including Anne and her father, Otto Frank,
"survived" Auschwitz.
The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands
to Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of
the advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other
Jews to the Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of typhus in March
1945.
Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp
hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews
who were left behind when the Germans abandoned the camp in January
1945, shortly before it was overrun by the Soviets. He died in
Switzerland in 1980.
If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they
would not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was,
cannot be reconciled with the extermination story.
Allied propaganda
The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay
statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any
evidence of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because
rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread.
Allied planes dropped large numbers of LEAFLETS , written in Polish
and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that
people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story,
which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort,
was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. (note 12)
Survivor testimony
Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of
extermination at Auschwitz.
An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp
experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was
interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations
with a Polish forced laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a Gypsy
woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed at
Auschwitz.
Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go
into a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The
terrified women were sure that they were about to die. But then,
instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads.
Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed the
death of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and
quite a few committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass
killings, gassings, or of any extermination program. (note 13)
A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from
Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and
cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she heard
and saw nothing of "gas chambers" during the time she was interned
there. She heard the gassing stories only later. (note 14)
Inmates released
Auschwitz internees who had served their sentences were released and
returned to their home countries. If Auschwitz had actually been a top
secret extermination center, the Germans would certainly not have
released inmates who "knew" what was happening in the camp. (note 15)
Himmler orders death rate reduced
In response to the deaths of many inmates due to disease, especially
typhus, the German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm
counter-measures.
The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated
Dec. 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It
sharply criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and
ordered that "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to
significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps."
Furthermore, it ordered:
The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the
nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the
administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp
commandants . . . The camp doctors are to see to it that the working
conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as
possible.
Finally, the directive stressed that "the Reichsfhrer SS [Heinrich
Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced."
(note 16)
German camp regulations
Official German camp regulations make clear that Auschwitz was not an
extermination center. They ordered: (note 17)
New arrivals in the camp are to be given a thorough medical
examination, and if there is any doubt [about their health], they must
be sent to quarantine for observation.
Prisoners who report sick must be examined that same day by the camp
physician. If necessary, the physician must transfer the prisoners to
a hospital for professional treatment.
The camp physician must regularly inspect the kitchen regarding the
preparation of the food and the quality of the food supply. Any
deficiencies that may arise must be reported to the camp commandant.
Special care should be given in the treatment of accidents, in order
not to impair the full productivity of the prisoners.
Prisoners who are to be released or transfered must first be brought
before the camp physician for medical examination.
Telltale aerial photos
Detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau
on several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged
extermination period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. These
photos show no trace of piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys
or masses of Jews awaiting death, things that have been repeatedly
alleged, and all of which would have been clearly visible if Auschwitz
had been the extermination center it is said to have been. (note 18)
Absurd cremation claims
Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could
not possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and
summer of 1944 at Auschwitz, as commonly alleged.
For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary,
Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation
story is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even
20,000 corpses were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of
1944 in crematories and open pits is simply "preposterous" and "beyond
the realm of reality," he declared under oath. (note 19)
Gassing expert refutes extermination story
America's leading gas chamber expert, Boston engineer Fred A.
Leuchter, carefully examined the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and
concluded that the Auschwitz gassing story is absurd and technically
impossible.
Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of
gas chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals.
For example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state
penitentiary.
In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the
"gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which
are either still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn
testimony to a Toronto court and in a technical report, Leuchter
described every aspect of his investigation.
He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing
facilities could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among
other things, he pointed out that the so-called "gas chambers" were
not properly sealed or vented to kill human beings without also
killing German camp personnel. (note 20)
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by
the Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that
the Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a
careful on-site examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz,
Birkenau and Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: "I
have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully
killed with Zyklon B [hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider
it absolutely impossible." (note 21)
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Joe

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On Jun 21, 5:42 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
> media

Proof????????????????????????????????????????????????

the Jews were behind Communism.

Bullshit:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/da69421bc0d055b3

Joe

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On Jun 21, 6:12 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jews say that being "anti-Semitic" is a terrible crime.

Show us who is jailed for being "Anti-Semitic"?

Proof? Proof? Proof?Proof??

Joe

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On Jun 21, 6:12 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jews say that being "anti-Semitic" is a terrible crime. Do they say
> being "anti-Arab" is a terrible crime? What about "anti-Christian", or
> "anti-German"? Of course the Jews think
> they are special. Any other group could be our enemy, but not the
> Jews, they say.

The Jews tell us the Arabs are our enemies.


Quotations?????


The
> Jewish controlled media tells us that the Jews are America's only
> friend in the Middle East. The truth is that before the Jews America
> didn't have any enemies in the Middle East.

Since Jews have been in the Middle east before America even existed,
that statement is nonsense. You're the one always quoting New
testament passages about Jews in the ME during the time of Christ.


Do you ever try and make any sense?

Binyamin Cramer

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> On Jun 21, 5:42 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
>> media
>
> Proof????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
>
>
> the Jews were behind Communism.
>
> Bullshit:
Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the
country's total population, they played a highly disproportionate and
probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively
dominating the Soviet government during its early years. Soviet historians,
along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to
ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading
Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky
(Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet
foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's
executive secretary and -- as chairman of the Central Executive Committee
-- head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the
Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading
revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press
commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov
(Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.

Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry, but he was also
one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was
a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church.

A thorough-going internationalist, Lenin viewed ethnic or cultural loyalties
with contempt. He had little regard for his own countrymen. "An intelligent
Russian," he once remarked, "is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish
blood in his veins."
Critical Meetings

In the Communist seizure of power in Russia, the Jewish role was probably
critical.

Two weeks prior to the Bolshevik "October Revolution" of 1917, Lenin
convened a top secret meeting in St. Petersburg (Petrograd) at which the
key leaders of the Bolshevik party's Central Committee made the fateful
decision to seize power in a violent takeover. Of the twelve persons who
took part in this decisive gathering, there were four Russians (including
Lenin), one Georgian (Stalin), one Pole (Dzerzhinsky), and six Jews.

To direct the takeover, a seven-man "Political Bureau" was chosen. It
consisted of two Russians (Lenin and Bubnov), one Georgian (Stalin), and
four Jews (Trotsky, Sokolnikov, Zinoviev, and Kamenev). Meanwhile, the
Petersburg (Petrograd) Soviet -- whose chairman was Trotsky -- established
an 18-member "Military Revolutionary Committee" to actually carry out the
seizure of power. It included eight (or nine) Russians, one Ukrainian, one
Pole, one Caucasian, and six Jews. Finally, to supervise the organization
of the uprising, the Bolshevik Central Committee established a five-man
"Revolutionary Military Center" as the Party's operations command. It
consisted of one Russian (Bubnov), one Georgian (Stalin), one Pole
(Dzerzhinsky), and two Jews (Sverdlov and Uritsky).
Contemporary Voices of Warning

Well-informed observers, both inside and outside of Russia, took note at the
time of the crucial Jewish role in Bolshevism. Winston Churchill, for one,
warned in an article published in the February 8, 1920, issue of the London
Illustrated Sunday Herald that Bolshevism is a "worldwide conspiracy for


the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible

equality." The eminent British political leader and historian went on to
write:

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism


and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these

international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a


very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable
exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover,
the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders.

Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate,
Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski
cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator
of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek -- all Jews. In the
Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And
the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism
applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combatting Counter-Revolution
[the Cheka] has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses

Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in
the breasts of the Russian people.

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January
1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are
Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or
any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a
worldwide social revolution."

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, made much the same point a
few months later: "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it
is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world


as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose
one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

"The Bolshevik Revolution," declared a leading American Jewish community
paper in 1920, "was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish
discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct."

As an expression of its radically anti-nationalist character, the fledgling
Soviet government issued a decree a few months after taking power that made
anti-Semitism a crime in Russia. The new Communist regime thus became the
first in the world to severely punish all expressions of anti-Jewish
sentiment. Soviet officials apparently regarded such measures as
indispensable. Based on careful observation during a lengthy stay in
Russia, American-Jewish scholar Frank Golder reported in 1925 that "because
so many of the Soviet leaders are Jews anti-Semitism is gaining [in
Russia], particularly in the army [and] among the old and new
intelligentsia who are being crowded for positions by the sons of Israel."
Historians' Views

Summing up the situation at that time, Israeli historian Louis Rapoport
writes:

Immediately after the [Bolshevik] Revolution, many Jews were euphoric over
their high representation in the new government. Lenin's first Politburo
was dominated by men of Jewish origins

Under Lenin, Jews became involved in all aspects of the Revolution,
including its dirtiest work. Despite the Communists' vows to eradicate
anti-Semitism, it spread rapidly after the Revolution -- partly because of
the prominence of so many Jews in the Soviet administration, as well as in
the traumatic, inhuman Sovietization drives that followed. Historian Salo
Baron has noted that an immensely disproportionate number of Jews joined
the new Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka And many of those who fell afoul
of the Cheka would be shot by Jewish investigators.

The collective leadership that emerged in Lenin's dying days was headed by
the Jew Zinoviev, a loquacious, mean-spirited, curly-haired Adonis whose
vanity knew no bounds.

"Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka," wrote
Jewish historian Leonard Schapiro, "stood a very good chance of finding
himself confronted with, and possibly shot by, a Jewish investigator." In
Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka
agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian
history. (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was
later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)

In light of all this, it should not be surprising that Yakov M. Yurovksy,
the leader of the Bolshevik squad that carried out the murder of the Tsar
and his family, was Jewish, as was Sverdlov, the Soviet chief who co-signed
Lenin's execution order.

Igor Shafarevich, a Russian mathematician of world stature, has sharply
criticized the Jewish role in bringing down the Romanov monarchy and
establishing Communist rule in his country. Shafarevich was a leading
dissident during the final decades of Soviet rule. A prominent human rights
activist, he was a founding member of the Committee on the Defense of Human
Rights in the USSR.

In Russophobia, a book written ten years before the collapse of Communist
rule, he noted that Jews were "amazingly" numerous among the personnel of
the Bolshevik secret police. The characteristic Jewishness of the Bolshevik
executioners, Shafarevich went on, is most conspicuous in the execution of
Nicholas II:

This ritual action symbolized the end of centuries of Russian history, so
that it can be compared only to the execution of Charles I in England or
Louis XVI in France. It would seem that representatives of an insignificant
ethnic minority should keep as far as possible from this painful action,
which would reverberate in all history. Yet what names do we meet? The
execution was personally overseen by Yakov Yurovsky who shot the Tsar; the
president of the local Soviet was Beloborodov (Vaisbart); the person
responsible for the general administration in Ekaterinburg was Shaya
Goloshchekin. To round out the picture, on the wall of the room where the
execution took place was a distich from a poem by Heine (written in German)
about King Balthazar, who offended Jehovah and was killed for the offense.

In his 1920 book, British veteran journalist Robert Wilton offered a
similarly harsh assessment:

The whole record of Bolshevism in Russia is indelibly impressed with the
stamp of alien invasion. The murder of the Tsar, deliberately planned by
the Jew Sverdlov (who came to Russia as a paid agent of Germany) and
carried out by the Jews Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov and
Yurovsky, is the act not of the Russian people, but of this hostile
invader.

In the struggle for power that followed Lenin's death in 1924, Stalin
emerged victorious over his rivals, eventually succeeding in putting to
death nearly every one of the most prominent early Bolsheviks leaders -
including Trotsky, Zinoviev, Radek, and Kamenev. With the passage of time,
and particularly after 1928, the Jewish role in the top leadership of the
Soviet state and its Communist party diminished markedly.
Put To Death Without Trial

For a few months after taking power, Bolshevik leaders considered bringing
"Nicholas Romanov" before a "Revolutionary Tribunal" that would publicize
his "crimes against the people" before sentencing him to death. Historical
precedent existed for this. Two European monarchs had lost their lives as a
consequence of revolutionary upheaval: England's Charles I was beheaded in
1649, and France's Louis XVI was guillotined in 1793.

In these cases, the king was put to death after a lengthy public trial,
during which he was allowed to present arguments in his defense. Nicholas
II, though, was neither charged nor tried. He was secretly put to death -
along with his family and staff -- in the dead of night, in an act that
resembled more a gangster-style massacre than a formal execution.

Why did Lenin and Sverdlov abandon plans for a show trial of the former
Tsar? In Wilton's view, Nicholas and his family were murdered because the
Bolshevik rulers knew quite well that they lacked genuine popular support,
and rightly feared that the Russian people would never approve killing the
Tsar, regardless of pretexts and legalistic formalities.

For his part, Trotsky defended the massacre as a useful and even necesssary
measure. He wrote:

The decision [to kill the imperial family] was not only expedient but
necessary. The severity of this punishment showed everyone that we would
continue to fight on mercilessly, stopping at nothing. The execution of the
Tsar's family was needed not only in order to frighten, horrify, and
instill a sense of hopelessness in the enemy but also to shake up our own
ranks, to show that there was no turning back, that ahead lay either total
victory or total doom This Lenin sensed well.
Historical Context

In the years leading up to the 1917 revolution, Jews were disproportionately
represented in all of Russia's subversive leftist parties. Jewish hatred of
the Tsarist regime had a basis in objective conditions. Of the leading
European powers of the day, imperial Russia was the most institutionally
conser-vative and anti-Jewish. For example, Jews were normally not
permitted to reside outside a large area in the west of the Empire known as
the "Pale of Settlement."

However understandable, and perhaps even defensible, Jewish hostility toward
the imperial regime may have been, the remarkable Jewish role in the vastly
more despotic Soviet regime is less easy to justify. In a recently
published book about the Jews in Russia during the 20th century,
Russian-born Jewish writer Sonya Margolina goes so far as to call the
Jewish role in supporting the Bolshevik regime the "historic sin of the
Jews." She points, for example, to the prominent role of Jews as
commandants of Soviet Gulag concentration and labor camps, and the role of
Jewish Communists in the systematic destruction of Russian churches.
Moreover, she goes on, "The Jews of the entire world supported Soviet
power, and remained silent in the face of any criticism from the
opposition." In light of this record, Margolina offers a grim prediction:

The exaggeratedly enthusiastic participation of the Jewish Bolsheviks in the
subjugation and destruction of Russia is a sin that will be avenged Soviet
power will be equated with Jewish power, and the furious hatred against the
Bolsheviks will become hatred against Jews.

If the past is any indication, it is unlikely that many Russians will seek
the revenge that Margolina prophecies. Anyway, to blame "the Jews" for the
horrors of Communism seems no more justifiable than to blame "white people"
for Negro slavery, or "the Germans" for the Second World War or "the
Holocaust."
Words of Grim Portent

Nicholas and his family are only the best known of countless victims of a
regime that openly proclaimed its ruthless purpose. A few weeks after the
Ekaterinburg massacre, the newspaper of the fledgling Red Army declared:

Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies by the scores of
hundreds, let them be thousands, let them drown themselves in their own
blood. For the blood of Lenin and Uritskii let there be floods of blood of
the bourgeoisie -- more blood, as much as possible.

Grigori Zinoviev, speaking at a meeting of Communists in September 1918,
effectively pronounced a death sentence on ten million human beings: "We
must carry along with us 90 million out of the 100 million of Soviet
Russia's inhabitants. As for the rest, we have nothing to say to them. They
must be annihilated."
'The Twenty Million'

As it turned out, the Soviet toll in human lives and suffering proved to be
much higher than Zinoviev's murderous rhetoric suggested. Rarely, if ever,
has a regime taken the lives of so many of its own people.

Citing newly-available Soviet KGB documents, historian Dmitri Volkogonov,
head of a special Russian parliamentary commission, recently concluded that
"from 1929 to 1952 21.5 million [Soviet] people were repressed. Of these a
third were shot, the rest sentenced to imprisonment, where many also died."

Olga Shatunovskaya, a member of the Soviet Commission of Party Control, and
head of a special commission during the 1960s appointed by premier
Khrushchev, has similarly concluded: "From January 1, 1935 to June 22,
1941, 19,840,000 enemies of the people were arrested. Of these, seven
million were shot in prison, and a majority of the others died in camp."
These figures were also found in the papers of Politburo member Anastas
Mikoyan.

Robert Conquest, the distinguished specialist of Soviet history, recently
summed up the grim record of Soviet "repression" of it own people:

It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the post-1934 death toll was well
over ten million. To this should be added the victims of the 1930-1933
famine, the kulak deportations, and other anti-peasant campaigns, amounting
to another ten million plus. The total is thus in the range of what the
Russians now refer to as 'The Twenty Million'."

A few other scholars have given significantly higher estimates.
The Tsarist Era in Retrospect

With the dramatic collapse of Soviet rule, many Russians are taking a new
and more respectful look at their country's pre-Communist history,
including the era of the last Romanov emperor. While the Soviets -- along
with many in the West -- have stereotypically portrayed this era as little
more than an age of arbitrary despotism, cruel suppression and mass
poverty, the reality is rather different. While it is true that the power
of the Tsar was absolute, that only a small minority had any significant
political voice, and that the mass of the empire's citizens were peasants,
it is worth noting that Russians during the reign of Nicholas II had
freedom of press, religion, assembly and association, protection of private
property, and free labor unions. Sworn enemies of the regime, such as
Lenin, were treated with remarkable leniency.

During the decades prior to the outbreak of the First World War, the Russian
economy was booming. In fact, between 1890 and 1913, it was the fastest
growing in the world. New rail lines were opened at an annual rate double
that of the Soviet years. Between 1900 and 1913, iron production increased
by 58 percent, while coal production more than doubled. Exported Russian
grain fed all of Europe. Finally, the last decades of Tsarist Russia
witnessed a magnificent flowering of cultural life.

Everything changed with the First World War, a catastrophe not only for
Russia, but for the entire West.
Monarchist Sentiment

In spite of (or perhaps because of) the relentless official campaign during
the entire Soviet era to stamp out every uncritical memory of the Romanovs
and imperial Russia, a virtual cult of popular veneration for Nicholas II
has been sweeping Russia in recent years.

People have been eagerly paying the equivalent of several hours' wages to
purchase portraits of Nicholas from street vendors in Moscow, St.
Petersburg and other Russian cities. His portrait now hangs in countless
Russian homes and apartments. In late 1990, all 200,000 copies of a first
printing of a 30-page pamphlet on the Romanovs quickly sold out. Said one
street vendor: "I personally sold four thousand copies in no time at all.
It's like a nuclear explosion. People really want to know about their Tsar
and his family." Grass roots pro-Tsarist and monarchist organizations have
sprung up in many cities.

A public opinion poll conducted in 1990 found that three out of four Soviet
citizens surveyed regard the killing of the Tsar and his family as a
despicable crime. Many Russian Orthodox believers regard Nicholas as a
martyr. The independent "Orthodox Church Abroad" canonized the imperial
family in 1981, and the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox Church has been under
popular pressure to take the same step, in spite of its long-standing
reluctance to touch this official taboo. The Russian Orthodox Archbishop of
Ekaterinburg announced plans in 1990 to build a grand church at the site of
the killings. "The people loved Emperor Nicholas," he said. "His memory
lives with the people, not as a saint but as someone executed without court
verdict, unjustly, as a sufferer for his faith and for orthodoxy."

On the 75th anniversary of the massacre (in July 1993), Russians recalled
the life, death and legacy of their last Emperor. In Ekaterinburg, where a
large white cross festooned with flowers now marks the spot where the
family was killed, mourners wept as hymns were sung and prayers were said
for the victims.

Reflecting both popular sentiment and new social-political realities, the
white, blue and red horizontal tricolor flag of Tsarist Russia was
officially adopted in 1991, replacing the red Soviet banner. And in 1993,
the imperial two-headed eagle was restored as the nation's official emblem,
replacing the Soviet hammer and sickle. Cities that had been re-named to
honor Communist figures -- such as Leningrad, Kuibyshev, Frunze, Kalinin,
and Gorky -- have re-acquired their Tsarist-era names. Ekaterinburg, which
had been named Sverdlovsk by the Soviets in 1924 in honor of the
Soviet-Jewish chief, in September 1991 restored its pre-Communist name,
which honors Empress Catherine I.
Symbolic Meaning

In view of the millions that would be put to death by the Soviet rulers in
the years to follow, the murder of the Romanov family might not seem of
extraordinary importance. And yet, the event has deep symbolic meaning. In
the apt words of Harvard University historian Richard Pipes:

The manner in which the massacre was prepared and carried out, at first
denied and then justified, has something uniquely odious about it,
something that radically distinguishes it from previous acts of regicide
and brands it as a prelude to twentieth-century mass murder.

Another historian, Ivor Benson, characterized the killing of the Romanov
family as symbolic of the tragic fate of Russia and, indeed, of the entire
West, in this century of unprecedented agony and conflict.

The murder of the Tsar and his family is all the more deplorable because,
whatever his failings as a monarch, Nicholas II was, by all accounts, a
personally decent, generous, humane and honorable man.
The Massacre's Place in History

The mass slaughter and chaos of the First World War, and the revolutionary
upheavals that swept Europe in 1917-1918, brought an end not only to the
ancient Romanov dynasty in Russia, but to an entire continental social
order. Swept away as well was the Hohenzollern dynasty in Germany, with its
stable constitutional monarchy, and the ancient Habsburg dynasty of
Austria-Hungary with its multinational central European empire. Europe's
leading states shared not only the same Christian and Western cultural
foundations, but most of the continent's reigning monarchs were related by
blood. England's King George was, through his mother, a first cousin of
Tsar Nicholas, and, through his father, a first cousin of Empress
Alexandra. Germany's Kaiser Wilhelm was a first cousin of the German-born
Alexandra, and a distant cousin of Nicholas.

More than was the case with the monarchies of western Europe, Russia's Tsar
personally symbolized his land and nation. Thus, the murder of the last
emperor of a dynasty that had ruled Russia for three centuries not only
symbolically presaged the Communist mass slaughter that would claim so many
Russian lives in the decades that followed, but was symbolic of the
Communist effor

Joe

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On Jun 21, 8:45 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" <bennielovestr...@alltimes.com>
wrote:


This has nothing to do with Jews.


>
> Olga Shatunovskaya, a member of the Soviet Commission of Party Control, and
> head of a special commission during the 1960s appointed by premier
> Khrushchev, has similarly concluded: "From January 1, 1935 to June 22,
> 1941, 19,840,000 enemies of the people were arrested. Of these, seven
> million were shot in prison, and a majority of the others died in camp."
> These figures were also found in the papers of Politburo member Anastas
> Mikoyan.

This has nothing to do with Jews.

This has nothing to do with Jews.

>
> The murder of the Tsar and his family is all the more deplorable because,
> whatever his failings as a monarch, Nicholas II was, by all accounts, a
> personally decent, generous, humane and honorable man.
> The Massacre's Place in History
>
> The mass slaughter and chaos of the First World War, and the revolutionary
> upheavals that swept Europe in 1917-1918, brought an end not only to the
> ancient Romanov dynasty in Russia, but to an entire continental social
> order. Swept away as well was the Hohenzollern dynasty in Germany, with its
> stable constitutional monarchy, and the ancient Habsburg dynasty of
> Austria-Hungary with its multinational central European empire. Europe's
> leading states shared not only the same Christian and Western cultural
> foundations, but most of the continent's reigning monarchs were related by
> blood. England's King George was, through his mother, a first cousin of
> Tsar Nicholas, and, through his father, a first cousin of Empress
> Alexandra. Germany's Kaiser Wilhelm was a first cousin of the German-born
> Alexandra, and a distant cousin of Nicholas.

This has nothing to do with Jews.
>


> More than was the case with the monarchies of western Europe, Russia's Tsar
> personally symbolized his land and nation. Thus, the murder of the last
> emperor of a dynasty that had ruled Russia for three centuries not only
> symbolically presaged the Communist mass slaughter that would claim so many
> Russian lives in the decades that followed, but was symbolic of the
> Communist effor


This has nothing to do with Jews.


Joe

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On Jun 21, 8:45 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" <bennielovestr...@alltimes.com>
wrote:
> "Joe" <jbr...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1182483120....@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...> On Jun 21, 5:42 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
> >> media
>
> > Proof????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> > the Jews were behind Communism.
>
> > Bullshit:
>


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/da69421bc0d055b3


tatarewicz

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Jun 22, 2007, 12:33:41 AM6/22/07
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On Jun 17, 10:51 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
> violence to break down that resistance.
>
> According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
> needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
> rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
> legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
> slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
> by a robber or gangster.
>
> True?


Hitler didn't really want to kill jews. Was part jewish himself as no
doubt were some of his henchmen. But made an "election promise" to get
rid of them (which helped nazis get elected). Told them they could
all leave after paying an exit tax. Problem was that no one anywhere
in the world wanted them. Remember the Voyage of the Damned? Bunch
snuck away without paying the exit tax but were turned away by Canada,
Cuba, South America; ship with all still on board had to return to
Germany.

Only Palestinians were kind enough to accept them after being assured
by the British in the Balfour Declaration that rights of indigenous
Arabs would not be prejudiced. You know how the criminal zionists
showed their gratitude for Palestinian hospitality: brought guns
instead of cash to take Palestinian lands.

person

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Jun 22, 2007, 3:29:47 AM6/22/07
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As Mein kamp clearly demonstrates, Hitler was not interested in Anti-
Semitism *per se*, he advocated a "German Nationalist Socialism", in
which "true Aryan types" would colonise all of "Greater Germany" (that
is, central europe) and the "inferior non-Germanic races" - the slavs
and the jews - would be removed or eliminated from "The Thousand Year
Reich".

Hitlers hatred of jews and slavs was based on their support of
"Bolshevist Communism" (Bolshevism meaning originally the support of
the majority - he was against democracy, because it was "not German")
and their support of "decadent" and "Non German" art forms - like
Bauhaus and abstract Art. This he copied from Stalin.

He was not interested in their racial history, he was a complete
nationalist (just like Stalin).

RJ11

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Jun 22, 2007, 4:24:25 AM6/22/07
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In article <DPqdnZVztLFW2Obb...@giganews.com>,
Binyamin Cramer <bennielo...@alltimes.com> wrote:

> Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the
> country's total population, they played a highly disproportionate and
> probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime,

That's a lie, doper:

<quote>

The alleged predominantly Jewish leadership and composition of the Russian
Communist Party has been a stock argument both against the Jews and against
the Communists outside of Russia as well. A glance at the statistics of
party membership taken at various times between 1918 and 1938 suffices to
disprove that underlying legend as far as membership is concerned. In 1918
the Russian Communist Party had 124,000 members. Of these, 75 per cent
were Russian Slavs, 10.8 per cent Letts (Latvians), 6.3 per cent Poles, 3.7
per cent Esthonians, 2.6 per cent Jews.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
</quote>


RJ.

tatarewicz

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On Jun 22, 2:24 am, RJ11 <r...@nospam.com> wrote:
> In article <DPqdnZVztLFW2ObbnZ2dnUVZ_qqrn...@giganews.com>,


The 2.6% jews in the Soviet communist party were the key players just
as in the case of the US Congress, 90% percent or whatever are non-
jews but Congress makes decisions as directed by America's zionist
lobby.

RJ11

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Jun 22, 2007, 4:52:58 AM6/22/07
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In article <1182501867....@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
tatarewicz <tat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 22, 2:24 am, RJ11 <r...@nospam.com> wrote:

>> <quote>
>>
>> The alleged predominantly Jewish leadership and composition of the Russian
>> Communist Party has been a stock argument both against the Jews and against
>> the Communists outside of Russia as well. A glance at the statistics of
>> party membership taken at various times between 1918 and 1938 suffices to
>> disprove that underlying legend as far as membership is concerned. In 1918
>> the Russian Communist Party had 124,000 members. Of these, 75 per cent
>> were Russian Slavs, 10.8 per cent Letts (Latvians), 6.3 per cent Poles, 3.7
>> per cent Esthonians, 2.6 per cent Jews.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> </quote>

> The 2.6% jews in the Soviet communist party were the key players

(yaaawn)

One must wonder why these "Jewish key players" were so anti-Jewish
and later, so anti-Israeli.

RJ.

Binyamin Cramer

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Jun 22, 2007, 5:00:36 AM6/22/07
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"Joe" <jbr...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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Oh yes it fucking does, b'luto. So does this, you stupid 'tard.

From the Encyclopaedia Judaica


Jews and Communism in the Soviet Union

Part Two: The Encyclopedia Judaica Confirms the Jewish Origin of
Communism

The Encyclopedia Judaica, published in Jerusalem, Israel, by Jews, is
available at most large public libraries and is in English. This
reference book for all things Jewish is quite open about the Jewish
role in Communism, particularly early Communism, and contains a large
number of admissions in this regard.

Above: The front cover of Volume 5 of the 1971 edition of the
Encyclopedia Judaica, published in Jerusalem, Israel, from where all
of the extracts below have been taken.

Under the entry for "Communism": in Volume 5, page 792, the following
appears:

"The Communist Movement and ideology played an important part In
Jewish life, particularly in the 1920s, 1930s and during and after
World War II." (below)

On page 793, the same Encyclopedia Judaica then goes on to say that
"Communist trends became widespread in virtually all Jewish
communities. In some countries, Jews became the leading element in the
legal and illegal Communist Parties.."

The Encyclopedia Judaica on page 793 then goes on to reveal that the
Communist International actually instructed Jews to change their names
so as "not confirm right-wing propaganda that presented Communism as
an alien, Jewish conspiracy." (above).

JEWISH ROLE IN THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST REVOLUTION

The Encyclopedia Judaica then goes on to describe the overwhelming
role Jews played in creating the Soviet Union. On page 792 it says :
"Individual Jews played an important role in the early stages of
Bolshevism and the Soviet Regime" (below).

On page 794 of the Encyclopedia Judaica, this Jewish reference book
then goes to list the Jews prominent in the upper command of the
Russian Communist party: these included Maxim Litvinov, (Later foreign
minister of Soviet Russia); Grigori Zinoviev, Lwev Kamenev, Jacob
Sverdlov, Lazar Kaganovich, and Karl Radek, amongst many others.
(Below: page 794 of the Encyclopedia Judaica).

The organizer of the Revolution was Trotsky, who prepared a special
committee to plan and prepare the coup which brought the Communists to
power. according tot he Encyclopedia Judaica, this committee, called
the Military Revolutionary Committee,, had five members - three of
whom were Jews. (below)

The Politburo - the supreme governing body of Russia immediately after
the Communist Revolution - had four Jews amongst its seven members,
according to page 797 of the Jewish Encyclopedia Judaica (below).

While many have alleged that Lenin was also Jewish, or at least of
part Jewish origin, there is little concrete evidence of this.
However, Lenin was ardently pro-Jewish, branding anti-Semitism
(correctly) as "counter revolutionary" (Encyclopedia Judaica, page
798). A statement against anti-Semitism was made by Lenin in March
1919 and was "one of the rare occasions when his voice was put on a
phonograph record to be used in a mass campaign against the
counterrevolutionary incitement against the Jews," according to the
Encyclopedia Judaica, page 798. One of the first laws passed by the
new Soviet Communist government was to outlaw anti-Semitism
(Encyclopedia Judaica, page 798, extract above).

>
>

Binyamin Cramer

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"Joe" <jbr...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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Dickhead. Even the Encyclopaedia Judaica relates the yid involvement in
communism.

Read and weep, 'tard.

Binyamin Cramer

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"tatarewicz" <tat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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One ronnie's not know for his honest reporting.

Here's an intersting article direct from Encyclopaedia Judaica

RJ11

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Jun 22, 2007, 5:24:32 AM6/22/07
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In article <8O-dnQZAX6p_Eubb...@giganews.com>,
Binyamin Cramer <bennielo...@alltimes.com> wrote:

(snip some drivel about "Jews and communism")

<quote>

In August 1919, all Jewish religious communities [in the Communist
USSR] were dissolved, their property confiscated and the overwhelming
majority of synagogues shut for ever. The study of Hebrew and the
publication of secular works in Hebrew were banned. Yiddish printing
was permitted, but only in phonetic transcription, and Yiddish
culture, though tolerated for a time, was placed under careful
supervision.

</quote>


RJ.

Tex

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Jun 22, 2007, 5:26:34 AM6/22/07
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"Binyamin Cramer" <bennielo...@alltimes.com> wrote in message
news:8O-dnQZAX6p_Eubb...@giganews.com...

>
> "Joe" <jbr...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> news:1182485212.9...@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 21, 8:45 pm, "Binyamin Cramer" <bennielovestr...@alltimes.com>
>> wrote:
>>> "Joe" <jbr...@indystart.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1182483120....@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...> On Jun 21,
>>> 5:42 pm, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Hitler was against the Jews mainly because the Jews controlled the
>>> >> media
>>>
>>> > Proof????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>>
>>> > the Jews were behind Communism.
>>>
>>> > Bullshit:
>>>
>>
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/da69421bc0d055b3
>
> Dickhead. Even the Encyclopaedia Judaica relates the yid involvement in
> communism.

Poor Benji. Just because jewish guys get more action than you is no reason
to hate them.


Tex

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"Binyamin Cramer" <bennielo...@alltimes.com> wrote in message
news:E-KdnQHyPpmTDebb...@giganews.com...

Speaking of honest, have to been on any more fake trips to the Middle East
recently?


RJ11

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Jun 22, 2007, 5:27:46 AM6/22/07
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In article <E-KdnQHyPpmTDebb...@giganews.com>,
Binyamin Cramer <bennielo...@alltimes.com> wrote:

> One ronnie's not know for his honest reporting.

"One ronnie's not know for"?

Are you on drugs again?

"my younger Brother got me absolutely stoned on magic mushrooms.
I spent three days sitting in the corner of the tent waiting to come
down." -- Posted by "Ben Cramer", Message-ID
<1125123267.5e5d281ad88798917af26011bcb01dc0@teranews>

As for "honest reporting", how about this?

In Message-ID: <b4adnSx2NqPH8u7b...@giganews.com>,
"Cramer" posted text allegedly taken from the article "Cold
Reminder," NY Times, Dec. 3 1994.

However, as everyone can easily check, the text posted
by "Cramer" is actually taken from a "revisionist" website,
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html, and it was
written by someone named Michael A. Hoffman II in 2006.

To make matters worse for "Cramer", even his sidekick
"floresrikitic" wrote that "anyone with room temp IQ" would
realize that the article was not taken from the NY Times
(Message-ID: <1182105152....@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>).


RJ.

Tex

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"RJ11" <rj...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:f5g4gg$sva$1...@pcls6.std.com...

Don't confuse Benji with reality. The poor virgin has enough trouble dealing
with his mushroom delusions as it is


RJ11

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Jun 22, 2007, 5:31:56 AM6/22/07
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In article <467b95f8$0$17155$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Tex <trop...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> "Binyamin Cramer" <bennielo...@alltimes.com> wrote in message
> news:E-KdnQHyPpmTDebb...@giganews.com...

>> One ronnie's not know for his honest reporting.

> Speaking of honest, have to been on any more fake trips to
> the Middle East recently?

My favorite one is "Cramer's" story of his recent alleged
trip to Basra, during which -- so he claims -- he was
"accompanied by British soldiers and shot at".

Nearly as good as his assertions that he's a "college
professor" and a "consultant on international terrorism"...

RJ.

Tex

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"RJ11" <rj...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:f5g4uc$jh0$1...@pcls4.std.com...

ROFL. I missed those gems. I wonder if Benji and Jake McCrann are related?


Midex

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Jun 22, 2007, 6:00:23 AM6/22/07
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On 18 jun, 01:54, "ltl...@hotmail.com" <ltl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 18, 12:51 am, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> > inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
> > violence to break down that resistance.
>
> > According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
> > needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
> > rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
> > legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
> > slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
> > by a robber or gangster.
>
> > True?
>
> The Jewish people had been demonized for many years as "Jesus killer."
> "Ice frozen three feet, not a day's cold."
>
> The proximal reason, the Germans think they are better people and they
> want
> an Ayran homeland.

No that may have been the face of propaganda for some of the
politiking but the motives behind the policies on the jews were not
that neanderthal. The engineers of the policies against the jews were
Zionist bankers.

Tex

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"Midex" <milliondoll...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sure they were Jake. Just like you're a retired millionaire who fought with
Hamas and the SAS


Midex

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Jun 22, 2007, 6:05:17 AM6/22/07
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On 18 jun, 02:18, kixi <k...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 17, 9:51 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When a gangster or robber comes to rob a person of his money, there is
> > inevitably a certain level of resistance, and the gangster resort to
> > violence to break down that resistance.
>
> > According to an explanation of the cause of the holocaust. the Nazis
> > needed money or financial power for their expansion and thus wanted to
> > rob the wealth of the Jews. The Jews would have resisted within a
> > legal frame but in the absence of a legal frame they became
> > slaughtered or murdered in much the same way that a victim is killed
> > by a robber or gangster.
>
> > True?
>
> There is no evidence that Hitler wanted to kill the jews. Documents
> show that Germany wanted to be rid of the jews - by deportation. The
> most likely destination would have been Madagascar but ... as the war
> consumed more and more resources Hitler decided that that a solution
> to the jewish problem be postponed until after the war.
>
> Documents exist is support of the above. No document exists showing
> Hitler gave ary order to kill the jews and no document existes showing
> that Hitler knew of any plan to kill the jews.
>
> As a matter of fact the International Committee of the Red Cross knew
> of no systematic killing of the jews ... neither did the Catholic or
> any other church. It seem the only people who "knew" jews were
> systematically being put to death were a few jews, all or nearly all
> of whom have been shown to be liars.
>
> That's not to say that there weren't people who wanted jews killed or
> that some were killed. Much the same sentiment exists today ... and
> many of us understand why.

There is a four hour documnetary which studies just one third of the
claims of the holocaust and proves them to be all liars.

www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com

I wouldn't say that I think the jews are evil or nefarious for
engineering such lies about WW2. Its got to be admired. After WW2
Hitler really had kicked them in the teeth and there was no point in
them crawling into their ghettos and building lives once again from
nothing. The Holocaust story was a clever deception. Remember that we
are always at war, with mortality, wiuth survival. Wars never really
end, just battles do.

What I reject is that in modern civilisation there is a place for
theocratic lunacy such as the jews, muslims, and christians. They can
all go to hell.

Midex

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On 18 jun, 04:57, Ariadne <ariadne....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 18 Jun, 07:57, MikeinCam...@aol.com wrote:
> > Hitler's view expressed in a speech in 1944
>
> After he had murdered millions of them?
> Not too convincing!

60 million people were murdered in WW2. Only 2 million of them were
soldiers.

So 58 million civilians murdered. Churchil murdered more german
civilians in War Criminal civilian air-raid bombings than Hitler
murdered jews. According to you logic Churchil had a plan to
exterminate the Germans?

Look man, the notion that a national politic would think it worthy
ambition to genocide a people is absurd. It flies in the face of every
philosophy of war. Subjugating a people is the objective of any war
including business. It is never profitable to destroy an entity and
all its intellectual wealth.

Hitler was forced to abandon any care whatsoever for the jew after
Churhil knocked out the transporation networks with his air raids.
Even the german people were starving. So you think that the jews would
be first in line for rations?

All of the complaints of the concentartion camps were of starvation.
With starvation comes plague and with plague comes the necessity to
burn the bodies to stop them contaminting the rest of the population.

Thats the general pattern of what happened.

The jews, quite cleverly and to be admired, invented the story of the
Holocaust to use to their advantage. Kind of like how a begger on the
street invents a sob story to get money out of a stranger but
sophisticated and extremely profitable.

Good on them. The jews are to be admired.


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> > was that the Jews were
> > racially the strongest group in Germany but one that would not
> > integrate. Thus they would take over Germany.
>
> > The Nazis wanted them removed and did not care much how. Deportation
> > was the obvious means but murder was another route if convenient.- Hide quoted text -
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