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Koos Nolst Trenite

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Nov 24, 2007, 2:28:12 PM11/24/07
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A Definition of Intelligence

24 November 2007
{HRI 20071124}

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Definition of Intelligence:

The (level of) ability to integrate (make sense of) seemingly
conflicting data.

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Koos Nolst Trenite 'Cause Trinity'
human rights philosopher and poet

'Men of all nations came
to listen to Solomon's wisdom,
sent by all the kings of the world,
who had heard of his wisdom.'

1 Kings 4:34

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See also:

'Definition Of Intelligence - From Plato'
{HRI 20030907}
(7 September 2003)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.china/msg/cb12c768dbafb281

'Writing Technique and Basics of Music - Feeling versus
Intelligence'
{HRI 20020701-V1.0}
(1 July 2002)
http://groups.google.com/group/k12.chat.teacher/msg/b93609b1bf8304d9
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glenn

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>A Definition of Intelligence
>
> 24 November 2007
> {HRI 20071124}
>
> '
>
> Definition of Intelligence:
>
> The (level of) ability to integrate (make sense of) seemingly
> conflicting data.

Where "conflicting" stands for ...?

You see, the choice of a simple randomizing device faced with "seemingly
conflicting data", can always be interpreted (afterwards) as intelligent,
even as wise...

Leonardo Been

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Nov 24, 2007, 3:16:33 PM11/24/07
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This comes from the human or humanities field of knowledge.

"Conflicting data" - what humans at first glance consider conflicting
data.

It is night and the sun shines, is 'conflicting data,' for instance.

So you have to take a wider, global viewpoint, in order to be at all
able to reconcile or integrate these "conflicting" data.

Something like that.

(KNT)

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glenn

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> So you have to take a wider, global viewpoint, in order to be at all
> able to reconcile or integrate these "conflicting" data.
>

I have a better definition of intelligence: Someone is intelligent if he
knows when to stop a futile calculation (efford, style of life etc).

I mean, write a simple program to find the "maximum integer".

i=0;
if i+1=i then write i and exit
else i:=i+1;

The program itself is not "false" or "error". Neither is the computer who
executes the program. But no computer will deny to execute it. Humans (most
of them) will deny. This is intelligence in its most elementary form.

Turing machines are not intelligent since partial recursive functions have
points of divergence.

Intelligence is about *not-doing-something*, not doing something.
copyright glenn

Leonardo Been

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Nov 24, 2007, 4:48:44 PM11/24/07
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Different meaning of the same word.

Like: Intelligent life. Does it have intelligence. And so on.

Interesting definition, though. Humans might stop, animals might not
stop.

'

I was thinking of the other meaning of the same word - as in IQ test,
for instance.

(KNT)

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Painius

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In alt.astronomy...

"Leonardo Been" <leonar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message...
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> On Nov 24, 10:33 pm, "glenn" <glenn...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> ? "Leonardo Been" <leonardo_b...@yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????...


>> news:d5961c61-42f6-401c...@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > So you have to take a wider, global viewpoint, in order to be at all
>> > able to reconcile or integrate these "conflicting" data.
>>
>> I have a better definition of intelligence: Someone is intelligent if he
>> knows when to stop a futile calculation (efford, style of life etc).
>>
>> I mean, write a simple program to find the "maximum integer".
>>
>> i=0;
>> if i+1=i then write i and exit
>> else i:=i+1;
>>
>> The program itself is not "false" or "error". Neither is the computer who
>> executes the program. But no computer will deny to execute it. Humans
>> (most
>> of them) will deny. This is intelligence in its most elementary form.
>>
>> Turing machines are not intelligent since partial recursive functions
>> have
>> points of divergence.
>>
>> Intelligence is about *not-doing-something*, not doing something.
>> copyright glenn
>

> Different meaning of the same word.
>
> Like: Intelligent life. Does it have intelligence. And so on.
>
> Interesting definition, though. Humans might stop, animals might not
> stop.
>
> '
>
> I was thinking of the other meaning of the same word - as in IQ test,
> for instance.
>
> (KNT)

Hello, Leonardo, aka KNT --

Please correct your top-posting because it is difficult
to follow your conversations when you top-post. I've
taken the liberty to correct it a bit for this post.

Now, this is all very interesting, because i still
wonder about the survival value of "intelligence".

You say that you meant your definition of intelligence
to include the instance of IQ testing. What about how
IQ tests are believed to be "culture bound"? So, say,
a dark-skinned person in the U.S. would have a harder
time "passing" an IQ test that is designed by a culture
of light-skinned testers.

By the same token, if an Australian aboriginal were
to create an IQ test for his people, any American or
European would (generally) not be able to pass it.

So if IQ tests are "culture bound", then how much
even moreso would they be "species bound"? And
therefore, how can IQ tests be a viable measure of
*general* intelligence?

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine

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